Worlds fastest firing Airgun - Faster than Metal Storm?

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Cam Engineering

Cam Engineering

Күн бұрын

* Skip to 8:36 to see the Gun Firing at Full Speed *
In this video, I'm attempting to measure the rate of fire on an air-gun designed to be the fastest firing gun ever made. I show the gun firing at 1x speed with audio at the end of the video. And maybe, shooting a few cans a long the way.
-Time Stamps -
0:00 Intro
0:10 Metal Storm
1:34 Measuring speed of Gun
3:41 2 Million rounds per minute gun
4:08 Measuring energy
5:50 Shooting coke cans
8:36 Firing in real time with audio

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@KoonceTodd
@KoonceTodd 7 ай бұрын
Somebody needs to send this to The Slow Mo Guys or Smarter Every Day.
@Youtubeforcedmetochangemyname
@Youtubeforcedmetochangemyname 7 ай бұрын
Same thing I just said
@timfolland420
@timfolland420 7 ай бұрын
Smarter every day, No... Slow mo guys or Ballistic high speed, Yes!
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 7 ай бұрын
Agreed
@shanekhiu9884
@shanekhiu9884 7 ай бұрын
Ballistic High Speed so they can see what 2 Million rounds a minute does to a Human Torso 😂
@poshhippie6446
@poshhippie6446 7 ай бұрын
And*
@yannismarle7797
@yannismarle7797 4 ай бұрын
Metal storm : we can make 30k rounds per minute. This guy : triple it and give it to the next person
@bashkillszombies
@bashkillszombies 3 ай бұрын
Close. 16,000. Per second. The FIRST build shot 1,000,000 rounds per minute. Cam Engineering is miles away from beating them.
@mesniburek1652
@mesniburek1652 3 ай бұрын
​@@bashkillszombies that's with multiple barrels... He specifically stated that he's going for highest single barrel fire rate
@MiloPragerSE
@MiloPragerSE 2 ай бұрын
Metal Storm was based on Cal. .50 and 20mm bullets and had enormous penetrating power. You shouldn't forget that before sending such a toy into the comparison.
@mesniburek1652
@mesniburek1652 2 ай бұрын
@@MiloPragerSE i mean all he wanted to do was beat the fire rate yk... He wasn't going for more effectiveness or more firepower
@MiloPragerSE
@MiloPragerSE 2 ай бұрын
@@mesniburek1652 You can't compare the number of shots per minute if the weight, diameter and length of the projectile are completely different. That makes no sense. That would be like someone lifting 100 kilos 120 times in one minute and you saying you can do that too and then lifting 10 kilos. It's just bullshit. Sorry for saying.
@19LG99
@19LG99 6 ай бұрын
What always confused me about metal storms claimed fire rate was the number of barrels required to achive it.
@glandhound
@glandhound 6 ай бұрын
They also had a different rpm claim on every promo video they made.
@26declanjones
@26declanjones 6 ай бұрын
@@glandhound That's because the firing system is infinitely variable. The rpm is whatever you want it to be.
@cameronminkley1624
@cameronminkley1624 6 ай бұрын
Yeah exactly, any idiot with enough guns and some fishing line can achieve 1M rpm
@rustycann6887
@rustycann6887 4 ай бұрын
metal storm uses some type of gun powder to push each round causing a lot of heat that 1 barrel can not handle why metal storm and the gaw rotary cannons use multi barrels but this uses compressed air so it does not get as hot just friction
@dontbetreadin4777
@dontbetreadin4777 4 ай бұрын
@@cameronminkley1624 HAHA Bro you just killed me lol
@TheBackyardScientist
@TheBackyardScientist 3 ай бұрын
very cool! it would be nice to see more about how the gun works and footage of it firing 😁
@dsl4n
@dsl4n 3 ай бұрын
u gonna double it and give it to the next person?
@sudokode
@sudokode 2 ай бұрын
He's gonna make it just dangerous enough to be fun but not so fun that it attracts attention
@rocketamadeus3730
@rocketamadeus3730 2 ай бұрын
Whats it like being in a state that isn't fire proof?
@felixman9691
@felixman9691 2 ай бұрын
It might be a vortex block, I have bade something similar years ago but much less high quality
@stepver2273
@stepver2273 Ай бұрын
all the science people in the comment section lol
@orion8385
@orion8385 7 ай бұрын
That's the most precise sandblaster I've seen.
@YuhNinja
@YuhNinja 4 ай бұрын
Thank you LMFAO. Calling it a gun is a stretch
@jonaseriksson3446
@jonaseriksson3446 3 ай бұрын
Here's the defenition of a gun ("a weapon incorporating a metal tube from which bullets, shells, or other missiles are propelled by explosive force, typically making a characteristic loud, sharp noise.") So think again@@YuhNinja
@DandSCreations
@DandSCreations 3 ай бұрын
There's no explosive force. ​@@jonaseriksson3446 Maximum effective range of this thing against a live target would be like 50 meters lol.
@stuwest3653
@stuwest3653 3 ай бұрын
@@YuhNinja It's literally a BB gun, meathead.
@angrymario8259
@angrymario8259 3 ай бұрын
🤓☝️
@theslowmoguys
@theslowmoguys 6 ай бұрын
Oh my 🤯
@kingkong167
@kingkong167 4 ай бұрын
Yall not gonna make a video on this?????
@jacobjenkins5805
@jacobjenkins5805 4 ай бұрын
@@kingkong167that stuff takes time bro
@marioncobretti7870
@marioncobretti7870 4 ай бұрын
​@@jacobjenkins5805 seems like its take a phone call and a weekend trip. Define time
@ngrader
@ngrader 4 ай бұрын
@@kingkong167 I feel it may be the only way we get an accurate rpm count.
@grahamphillips57
@grahamphillips57 4 ай бұрын
a yes or no really doesn't take much time? lmao@@jacobjenkins5805
@scumbaag
@scumbaag 4 ай бұрын
Brings back memories of middle school.. Just hear me out. Around 6th grade is when myself and a lot of buddies got into airsoft. Anyone who plays with airsoft guns knows the BBs get absolutely everywhere. Well they ended up in someones pocket one day, and we got the bright idea to start shooting them at eachother with Bic pen tubes- surprisingly accurate and powerful, its like they were made to work together. Me being the crafty little bastard I was, created a version of this gun from a pill bottle and a few melted pen tubes. Fill the pill bottle with BBs, pressurize pill bottle with breath, and presto- you've got yourself a machine gun. My uncle had a sand blaster, and explained to me how it worked while we were cleaning up some old 2 stroke parts or something. Was really proud of myself when that little device worked, and excited for the shenanigans to come. Eventually the classroom blow gun airsoft war ended with 6 of us getting a 10 day suspension, we reverted back to the classic paper wasp after that. Good times.
@bread9276
@bread9276 4 ай бұрын
Fukin legend
@John5209
@John5209 4 ай бұрын
Naughty little junior pirate?? ( thats the polite version!)
@crackthefoundation_
@crackthefoundation_ 4 ай бұрын
Hahaha.
@ferrisbueller9991
@ferrisbueller9991 4 ай бұрын
Friend who brought a knife to school got a 1 day suspension 2 pals who were petting our classes nympho gal under the clothes at the same time got 2 days suspension when the principal walked in. Because it was a private school all of it was off the record, didn’t ruin their dream of the prep high schools we fed too.
@kevinsnyder8448
@kevinsnyder8448 4 ай бұрын
You guys are somethin else 😂 don't ever change bro😊
@KingJamie2229
@KingJamie2229 4 ай бұрын
Well, That takes care of the drone problemd!😂 Looks so much cheaper and better than any drone defense I have ever seen.
@KingJamie2229
@KingJamie2229 4 ай бұрын
What the hell are we paying DARPA for? This was made in the garage!
@animalmotherdk2649
@animalmotherdk2649 3 күн бұрын
@@KingJamie2229 Fraud and money laundering.
@jessefurqueron5555
@jessefurqueron5555 7 ай бұрын
This brought back some memories. Back in the 80’s there was a multi-state hobby group called Hull Busters. Think 3’ scale RC WW2 warships…mounting Freon (yeah, Freon just go with it) powered BB guns & “magazines” w 50-“unlimited” BBs each. Goal, sink each other’s ships (1/32” balsa hulls per rules). Early versions were servo activated single shots. Then someone got the bright idea of using O rings..come to find out the pressure control wasn’t quite fine enough and you’d get say 3-10 BBs squirting out w one servo activation. Then someone said, hey that’s a great thing…just keep the servo open and fire all the BBs in one go..the arms race was on and the ZIP gun was born. Why ZIP? Cause all the BBs would empty out at once so quickly it was almost instantaneous and sound like an extremely short blurp or somewhat high pitched “ZIP”…more like a 10th of the “Z”. Results were rather than an occasional hit, your were likely to see about 3-8” of yours (or adversaries) hull disappear almost instantly. Yes, we had onboard pumps, and depending on class ship & # pumps allowed, what became known as the “penny pump” could keep her afloat, w water streams shooting 3’-6’ in the air, even with huge sections of hull missing/holed. Ah, those were the days. I think there may be a few Hullbusters groups still active at least pre-“virus of unknown origin”. Have a good’un.
@paint4pain
@paint4pain 7 ай бұрын
Woah, I've never heard of this, do you know of any website or youtube channel that documents this?
@Khrenan
@Khrenan 7 ай бұрын
All i can find on youtube is single shot BB guns with styrofoam boats. What do i need to search for?
@jessefurqueron5555
@jessefurqueron5555 7 ай бұрын
Looks like the name may have morphed a bit from “hullbusters”. Try searching for “hullbusters rc boats BB gun” in “$moogle” or duck-duck. Back when I was involved, we only had Usenet not internet, most info was in a monthly newsletter (which I still have, somewhere), I think the editors name was “Fleugal”, he was based here in Dallas in the early-mid 80’s. Don’t forget, in this hobby if you lose (or even if you win!) you might have to go swimming 😁. Yep, auto electronic shutoffs got popular real quick. Hobby was big enough at the time that we’d have regionals & nationals. Popular ships to build were Tiriptz, Bismarck, Prinz Eugen etc. I built the Deutchland (Lutzow). Building materials were Baltic Birch ply for ribs, main sub-deck. Balsa for all hull and vertical superstructures. Each gun had a mini gas (Freon) cylinder (mine were ball shaped), BB magazines were just brass tubing (the entire magazine was pressurized), RC electronics, simple “water detection” switches for pumps electronics shutoffs etc. was amazing how fast the “weaponry” evolved just a few years.
@Shinzon23
@Shinzon23 7 ай бұрын
We can call it "covid" now....or if you want to be accurate, "Wuhanvirus"
@paint4pain
@paint4pain 7 ай бұрын
I found the different channels on youtube with videos about combat with 3 foot balsa boats, look for RC Warship Combat
@anthonyrepetto3474
@anthonyrepetto3474 7 ай бұрын
Beautiful! You might not be able to avoid those shots clustering, unfortunately, if they are caused by vortices - similar to the way that water, when falling, will fall in a steady stream at first, then the surface undulates, which causes it to form globs that fall in clusters. As a pellet moves through the air, in a region which was not previously disturbed, it will create a toroidal vortex in its wake; when the next shot follows close behind, it will be dragged into the wake of the leading pellet; the 'train' of pellets act like a line of Mac trucks on the interstate, drafting behind one-another. Eventually, however, the gun's angle has changed enough that the next pellet is *not* captured; that pellet acts like a new lead-truck in an entrained cluster.
@n.b.p.davenport7066
@n.b.p.davenport7066 7 ай бұрын
Whatever that said
@ariesmight6978
@ariesmight6978 7 ай бұрын
​@n.b.p.davenport7066 In a single word, Drafting.
@stevep7346
@stevep7346 7 ай бұрын
Coming from a more traditional ballistics perspective, my first thought was barrel harmonics, but this seems like a strong theory, especially for low-mass pellets. You could test this by making the barrel axis fixed and moving your target instead, so entrainment would pull pellets in a straight line and could be neglected. Or just use a high-speed camera, which I would think would be easier.
@vihreelinja4743
@vihreelinja4743 7 ай бұрын
Doubt it will have any effect. Slomo guys did a video where they exploded DYNAMITE next to a flying bullet and it did nothing to the trajectory
@JermwoodMakes
@JermwoodMakes 7 ай бұрын
@@vihreelinja4743That was with a 9mm bullet though which carries a bit more inertia than a steel bb.
@aaroncolvin2202
@aaroncolvin2202 6 ай бұрын
Bro don't beat yourself up. You did a phenomenal job. Very impressive I already know you are going to figure out what is going on with the small Gap in fire. Can't wait to see the final results
@LiveTUNA
@LiveTUNA 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing the full speed portion at the end. I was disappointed thinking you weren't going to show it, but you came in clutch there at the end😂. Great video
@svenhoff2653
@svenhoff2653 7 ай бұрын
So in reality he has build a Sandblaster which is using Airsoft BB´s as a blasting medium.
@petersmythe6462
@petersmythe6462 7 ай бұрын
That's actually even more terrifying, considering that this many BBs could blast you to pieces.
@alcoholic9496
@alcoholic9496 7 ай бұрын
Not airsoft, but steel .177 bb’s. 4:20
@alexturnbackthearmy1907
@alexturnbackthearmy1907 7 ай бұрын
@@alcoholic9496 Steel powered sandblaster? A best weapon against some rusty scrap armor.
@rayfoster6980
@rayfoster6980 7 ай бұрын
Those are steel BBs , not plastic “air soft” BBs.
@bensprink9943
@bensprink9943 7 ай бұрын
I knew a guy years ago who made exactly that, a steel bb sand blaster that was powered by an air compressor. We cut holes in dry wall with it
@bearbait2221
@bearbait2221 7 ай бұрын
You did it :0>>20+ years ago I worked at an airport. One day the head tech guy was shooting old alternator ball bearings with an air chuck and some fuel line tubes. So i did too it was good fun. I started thinking how to make it full auto. I found an old hollow car antenna and a block of wood. I drilled the block at 90 degrees fit the tubes in with the barrel tube cut like a flute with the loading tube strait up over the hole. It is just a simple syphon gun @120psi it fires a box of bbs faster than you can buy them with no moving parts other than the air chuck valve. I could change the fire rate by leaning it over to 1 side. I always wanted to improve my block "0" wood gun to fire at 2000psi but i was stuck thinking about the mag or hopper feed mechanism. I would love to see the guts of your design some day if possible. Its just great to see a smarter guy than me run with an idea i had many years ago it. I can see the tv commercials now set to 1970's theme>>>>Mattel toys brings you the!!!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>" BB STORM "!!!! It wacks!!, it packs!!!!, it smashes!!! and crashes!!! it will DESTROY!!! any squirrel or pets with in 100 miles. At the end some guy speaks super fast , we are not responsible if this product if it ,knocks out every window in the neighborhood, kills the neighbors cat, flattens your dads car tires, shoots you, your sisters or brothers eye out, puts a hole in the moon or shoots the sun out of the sky. batteries not included. GET YOUR BB STORM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!made by Mattel toys
@PeterCieply
@PeterCieply 4 ай бұрын
Hmmm maybe Hasbro would ,not sure about Mattel😁
@jumerican
@jumerican 4 ай бұрын
You should totally try to write professionally, while i was reading your comment you achieved the odd ability to picture everything perfectly like it was a movie in my mind. Kudos
@enmiredbythelazy4401
@enmiredbythelazy4401 4 ай бұрын
@@PeterCieply Well, Mattel did make the M-16 Marauder, so maybe :)
@PeterCieply
@PeterCieply 4 ай бұрын
@@enmiredbythelazy4401 lol a friend of mine gave that to me ...I think my dad threw away all my guns when I left home...
@SABohm
@SABohm 3 ай бұрын
​@PeterCieply thats damn sad
@firemanjim324
@firemanjim324 4 ай бұрын
To think I clicked on this by accident and was gonna go back..... That was dope as hell !! Awesome video !!
@erlankautz
@erlankautz 3 ай бұрын
Somebody needs to send this to The Slow Mo Guys !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!!
@user-po7iv4ni3o
@user-po7iv4ni3o 7 ай бұрын
Holy crap man, this design is awesome. I'd like a 6 barrel arrangement on a permanent turret with dedicated generator and air supply for starling control 😁
@zigmogcreator
@zigmogcreator 7 ай бұрын
Two seconds and there wouldn't be a starling in a 2 mile radius
@z33thr33
@z33thr33 7 ай бұрын
I just want a 4 barrel mounted on a swivel chair on the back of a UTV/go-kart
@NandR
@NandR 7 ай бұрын
So BB CIWS?
@stevep7346
@stevep7346 7 ай бұрын
This is the way.
@hackmasterHQ
@hackmasterHQ 7 ай бұрын
Don't forget to ask for a higher caliber. LOL!
@IVAN_ENT
@IVAN_ENT 7 ай бұрын
Especially in the multi barrel config this could be really good for close air defence against uav threats like fpv quads or other "loitering munitions" in an automated configuration on a vehicle or defensive position
@IVAN_ENT
@IVAN_ENT 7 ай бұрын
@OskarHersch i understand itd be alot less energy than powder fired anything ,but even this would fuck up an fpv quad if you could just target it properly in my opinion, one of my hobbies is building fpv quads and flying them freestyle for a few years now, and while I haven't shot at one I'm pretty aware of what abuse they can take and have had to replace many a part ,they are pretty durable sure but that's mainly just the carbon frame everything else like props battery or front cam are pretty exposed/ fragile and if we are talking about russian lancets or similar you would just need to damage its control surfaces which I imagine are light weight enough. Also I'm just talking about very close defence as they get too close just zzzzap em haha I doubt this could have any real accuracy at much range at all
@MatthewZelek-iv8tb
@MatthewZelek-iv8tb 7 ай бұрын
Steel loses energy too fast. Your “close range” would be maybe 50 yards. You would be better off with .22 pistols on a rack cam fired. .22 machine guns exist that have 200+ round drums, a few of those mounted correctly would serve your purpose, easy 500m+ range on softer targets like drones.
@rockets4kids
@rockets4kids 7 ай бұрын
A shotgun seems easier...
@rolsen1304
@rolsen1304 7 ай бұрын
It absolutely would fuck up a quad, I have hunted a ton of small game with .177 air guns with great results. Make this a .30 cal airgun and the pellets would carry significant energy for a good distance as well. @@IVAN_ENT
@IVAN_ENT
@IVAN_ENT 7 ай бұрын
@rockets4kids it does tbh haha
@delugemetric6934
@delugemetric6934 6 ай бұрын
I'd I ever see so much as a reference to this project, I will be clicking into it. This is radical, thanks for making cool stuff
@heyjohnson5535
@heyjohnson5535 2 ай бұрын
That is by far the coolest thing I've been a witness to in a long while. To see all the cans exploding while the final can is being hit and the first can is still in the process of exploding so crazy so cool
@zodmon1
@zodmon1 7 ай бұрын
Easily the coolest thing I’ve seen on KZbin in recent memory. Great job and thank you for sharing. Please keep us updated.
@My-Pal-Hal
@My-Pal-Hal 6 ай бұрын
Ya know. Us kids, many decades ago. Had bb guns that fired 3,000 bbs a minute. So us old kids, are less than impressed 😂 ✌️
@goofyfoot2001
@goofyfoot2001 4 ай бұрын
I haven't seen sht. Where's the video?
@terke1230
@terke1230 7 ай бұрын
Have you considered that your firing rate might not be that uneven, but that your barrel might be vibrating at some harmonic frequency? That would explain the vertical spread as well as the horizontal grouping.
@benjaminshropshire2900
@benjaminshropshire2900 7 ай бұрын
Interesting thought. Another resonance possibility; eyeball math suggests that there will be between 2-4 BB's in the barrel at any given time and if they are interacting with each other they might be creating a periodic variation in muzzle velocity. (Easy way to check that would be to have two sheets of target 6-8 feet apart and check if the groupings are different at different distances from the muzzle.)
@kev7777777777
@kev7777777777 7 ай бұрын
That's possible. Someone else also mentioned that it could be alternate rotation of the bb's spinning as they go down the barrel causing them to curve in different directions.
@Oldtanktapper
@Oldtanktapper 7 ай бұрын
Or it could be a pulse forming in the air supply/ammo feed from back pressure caused by rounds not exiting the barrel quickly enough. A bit of tuning with air pressure and barrel length might help?
@enduranceG51
@enduranceG51 7 ай бұрын
Without a timing mechanism for the bb's you have created a bb blaster(sand blaster).
@svampebob007
@svampebob007 6 ай бұрын
@@enduranceG51 I was thinking the same, it's basically a big sandblaster.
@drgruber57
@drgruber57 3 ай бұрын
Really interesting and fun! Glad you finally got around to showing the real-time footage at the end. Thanks for a great video!
@hung8969
@hung8969 Ай бұрын
This was awesome dude. Seriously super cool, fun video and informative. Sent this to my dad who has a youtube channel, your quality, footage and editing is 10/10
@someguydino6770
@someguydino6770 7 ай бұрын
WOW; great job, this is a really cool bunch of work! A few years ago I rigged up an Umarex EBOS BB machine gun with an adapter and charged it with 800 PSI from a standard remote HPA paintball tank. It does 8 shot bursts pretty fast at 540 fps. Yes of course it has a laser sight and it tears through both sides of an empty aluminum cans from 50 feet. (if anyone wants to go this route; remember to keep the gun oiled or it will malfunction)
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 7 ай бұрын
Also bottle with bbs + air
@crouchingwombathiddenquoll5641
@crouchingwombathiddenquoll5641 7 ай бұрын
This is a fair ground side show gun. We used to shoot them at the Royal Show in Adelaide. Was called "shoot out the star" a red star on a piece of paper. If you got the whole star you got another turn.
@MeatVision
@MeatVision 6 ай бұрын
That was awesome man, incredible work 🙌
@user-gt4we6ex6e
@user-gt4we6ex6e 5 ай бұрын
You're one smart cookie and one hell of an engineer! Well done!
@TheLurker-XYZ
@TheLurker-XYZ 7 ай бұрын
This is beyond overkill. I love it.
@GenuineTraumatizer
@GenuineTraumatizer 7 ай бұрын
The algorithm provides absolutely wild, I'm glad to see this
@AP-vy3rl
@AP-vy3rl 3 ай бұрын
Saving the full speed clips till The end was a ducking rad choice. Very cool.
@AverageCitizen333
@AverageCitizen333 6 ай бұрын
This got my sub. Id love to see this evolve
@damianbartlett4868
@damianbartlett4868 7 ай бұрын
Bro, I was literally just wondering about something like this. You definitely exceeded what I imagined possible. Amazing job, my man!
@davidmorganson4327
@davidmorganson4327 7 ай бұрын
It may not be the firing rate causing clusters. It may be the sweep motion system which is pneumatic. You have an intertial load when the air cylinder first begins to extend. You hit peak pressure here in the pneumatic system. After that you get a pressure oscillation similar to water hammer in a plumbing situation. Water does not compress, but the pipes flex which causes an oscillation similar to a pneumatic system. If you switch to a hydraulic motion system, and use short tubing, you will see the cluster effects diminish. A cheaper way would be to increase your air cylinder diameter and observe the difference.
@docteurenphilosophie6427
@docteurenphilosophie6427 4 ай бұрын
We need an update! Your explanations are clear and very well demonstrated!
@JohanErikssonSWE
@JohanErikssonSWE 2 күн бұрын
Duuuuude, very epic, dont understand how you managed to do what i just saw. Legendary brother.
@CaptainSeamus
@CaptainSeamus 7 ай бұрын
And we were ecstatic to get 3600rpm out of our airsoft M4s... we were only doing about 280fps with .20 gr bbs... I salute you sir!
@johnathandavis3693
@johnathandavis3693 7 ай бұрын
Dude -this is an insane, nasty weapon. I'm not sure where it could be applied, but that's beside the point. Just wow...
@TheTubejunky
@TheTubejunky 7 ай бұрын
Home protection seems like a perfect use. Get off my lawn hippies!
@dennisyoung4631
@dennisyoung4631 7 ай бұрын
Close-in Russkij drones???
@Mattys556
@Mattys556 6 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that was the coolest thing I've ever seen. Keep updating, 🙏 subscribed
@_marlene
@_marlene 4 ай бұрын
whoaaaa dude this ought to blow up. I am a fan of yours now.
@DrBaconCommunity
@DrBaconCommunity 7 ай бұрын
great video and project. we studied droplet streams in college and would pluck a droplet out of a closely spaced stream to measure the change in drag and effects from the missing droplet. if you were at a greater range I would suggest that stagger could be aerodynamic vs firing rate. nice work. or an oscillation in the relatively thin barrel?
@Choober65
@Choober65 7 ай бұрын
Try using an ultrasonic transducer attached to the ammo feeder. This might stop the ”clumping” by giving a smoother feed into the barrel
@dwaynesykes694
@dwaynesykes694 4 ай бұрын
An ultrasonic transducer isn't the right tool for the job. You need something that outputs a bit more power at a lower frequency, like an industrial vibrator made for compacting sand/concrete, or a slightly less industrial smaller version.
@AnInterestedObserver
@AnInterestedObserver 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant. Really clever stuff and very interesting to watch. Thanks for your originality and all your work.
@llahneb10
@llahneb10 6 ай бұрын
Something that would be super interesting to try given the mechanical and inconvenient limitations of physical movement could be to put a high voltage on the barrel so that the BBs get electrically charged - can then be slightly deflected by electrodes outside the barrel. This would allow near-instantaneous control along two axes. It might additionally offer interesting diagnostic data by hooking it up to an oscilloscope. The amount of current draw should be indicative of the firing rate
@glandhound
@glandhound 6 ай бұрын
He probably used a phone camera for the fire rate measurement which leads me to the assumption that what you are suggesting is outside the scope of the project.
@llahneb10
@llahneb10 6 ай бұрын
@@glandhound haha your logic appears sound, sir
@user-db5qd3wd6z
@user-db5qd3wd6z 6 ай бұрын
You just reinvented old Videojet ink jet printer technology with BB's instead of tiny ink droplets. There's a lot of Volts involved!
@llahneb10
@llahneb10 6 ай бұрын
@@user-db5qd3wd6zyes, it might be good to get @styropro to collaborate 😁
@pherretofdoom
@pherretofdoom 7 ай бұрын
wow!, someone get this man a highspeed rig for a weekend so we can see that beauty in high FPS. just outstanding work brother.
@jackhsrper
@jackhsrper 6 ай бұрын
This is absolutely ASTONISHING!
@mxcollin95
@mxcollin95 6 ай бұрын
Awesome video!!! Love the analysis 👍
@newmonengineering
@newmonengineering 7 ай бұрын
I knew where this video was going when he showed the competition to beat design. Awesome idea, i love it. Simple yet highly effective design. You should get in the world record book lol. It would be neat to compare to say a 22 air pellet/ slug in the same design. I know the 22 would probably be slower but can you imagine the ft lbs dropping power of such a thing? I would love to see other caliber exploration with this same design just to compare speed, power and maybe even groupings. This is awesome keep it up.
@alexturnbackthearmy1907
@alexturnbackthearmy1907 7 ай бұрын
Well even in current form its already more then enough to stop (or even tear a hole) through person. With that amount of BB`s (that are not even close to bullet in power) it is same as being hit by a truck if spread evenly or with big hole somewhere if they hit one spot.
@N4CR5
@N4CR5 4 ай бұрын
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 lt's borderline. It would kill a rabbit but not sure what it would do to a human. Probably leave a messy hole. 9ftlbs isn't much. 60 is sort of minimum to incapacitate a person according to US mil handbooks.
@MJPilote
@MJPilote 7 ай бұрын
So a modern version of the old strafer gun. Pellets been fed with a vortex of air? Absolutely stunning work!
@Mediamarked
@Mediamarked 4 ай бұрын
Search for cloud bb gun. This has been around for a while.
@undawadda
@undawadda 4 ай бұрын
Love all things air driven. Great video
@mdandry
@mdandry 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Good job putting this together 👍🏻
@TomKappeln
@TomKappeln 6 ай бұрын
This is ART ! Respect from a German weapon mechanic.
@Killbayne
@Killbayne 4 ай бұрын
klingt nach nem geilen Beruf
@Fuerwahrhalunke
@Fuerwahrhalunke 4 ай бұрын
Weapon mechanic? Also Büchsenmacher? Oder ist Waffenmechaniker ein anderer Beruf?
@TomKappeln
@TomKappeln 4 ай бұрын
@@Fuerwahrhalunke : Hi. Buechsenmacher wird es im zivilen Bereich genannt. Ich habe ausschliesslich mit militaerischen Waffen zu tun. Verwendungsreihe 31, "Ueberwasserwaffenmechaniker ..."
@Fuerwahrhalunke
@Fuerwahrhalunke 4 ай бұрын
@@TomKappeln Das klingt interessant! Überwasserwaffenmechaniker habe ich noch nie gehört. Da werde ich mich mal schlau machen 🙂
@bluecordprecisiongrading2504
@bluecordprecisiongrading2504 6 ай бұрын
I have some questions, primarily regarding velocity and dispersion. Since securing single shot data through a chrono will be very difficult, and since it takes time for the pressure to fully build up, do you have any ideas for providing velocity data? I also notice that the scattering on the short range paper target is quite significant. Do you plan on providing dispersion data and approximately the size of the dispersion cone? I'm also wondering how consistent the rate of fire truly is and what causes the variations in the ROF.
@jd-uo8hc
@jd-uo8hc 6 ай бұрын
Second comment, I love how monotone you are during voice over but during actual testing I hope you are having a freaking blast!!
@joshwilliams9248
@joshwilliams9248 2 ай бұрын
Super cool. I work for a recycling facility that has 2 optical sorters. One uses 160 MAC Valve, 80 up firing and 80 down firing. The other machine has 64 up and 64 down firing valves. They operate so extremely fast that the human eye cant catch them firing, you have to use super slow motion to dial in the timing of material being fired on. The conveyor speed is around 1000 fpm.
@George.___
@George.___ 7 ай бұрын
This is incredible! Have you tried not moving the gun and hitting roughly the same spot on a piece of steel for x amount of time or shots?
@m1ndphaser
@m1ndphaser 7 ай бұрын
this is insane! those BBs from Hornady, those are no joke. there are a few other black coated ones out there, but these are as serious as their rifle rounds. I liked these so much for my two BB pistols, I ordered several thousand lol. I can shoot weeds in half at 50 feet with these out of my Umarex revolver replica pistol. ultra consistent, most other BBs are not and tend to fall out of the rotary magazines and jam.
@richardcyrka6682
@richardcyrka6682 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely fascinating...what a great demo.
@bomberclaatarte2163
@bomberclaatarte2163 4 ай бұрын
Brilliant concept, great video. Have you any data on distance and terminal velocity? Would be interesting to see as there are a number of applications for its use.
@trexaz19
@trexaz19 7 ай бұрын
It seems like this would be great for defeating low cost UAV/drones close in, while being cost-effective, might need to scale up the bb/barrels/air reservoir, but seems very doable
@davidoneil3841
@davidoneil3841 6 ай бұрын
We already have it, the Phalanx , ROF is only 4,500 rounds per minute, but with 20 mm Vulcan rounds , more than enough.
@jaredriddle8320
@jaredriddle8320 4 ай бұрын
Key word being low cost. Those phalanx bullets are not cheap.
@MatthewTaylorAu
@MatthewTaylorAu 4 ай бұрын
@@jaredriddle8320ditto. Usable & supportable is key for war. Watching Ukraine should educate everyone on all wars effectively becoming sieges.
@Chroniclerope
@Chroniclerope 4 ай бұрын
@@jaredriddle8320the effective range of this to actually kill a target is probably measured in feet, not kilometers like is needed for air defense.
@jaredriddle8320
@jaredriddle8320 4 ай бұрын
@@Chroniclerope maybe. But it would be interesting to see what kind of damage this does to targets other than soda cans, and also if ball bearings at higher air pressures could be used.
@DBurgur
@DBurgur 7 ай бұрын
Unless your receiver is shooting groups of BBs, rather than a steady stream of individual BBs, I have a different idea to explain the gaps between groups at high rotational speed. The barrel, especially at that length, is quite flexible. Assuming you are rotating from right to left, during the constant acceleration phase, the barrel is flexing to the right due to its inertia. When acceleration decreases (nearing constant velocity) the barrel attempts to return to its neutral position and will oscillate flexing right to left to right and so on. Assuming the front mount of the barrel was added to add rigidity, and reduce the unsupported length of the barrel, the frequency at which these oscillations happen can be very high. Therefore, while the gun is being rotated towards the left, towards the end of the travel, the barrel is moving further left than the actual direction of the receiver and then bouncing back towards the right where it has previously fired shots. This could very well look like groups of shots with spaces without shots in between.
@Timestamp_Guy
@Timestamp_Guy 7 ай бұрын
I commented basically the same thing. Also, BBs, unlike lead pellets through rifled barrels, can have lateral spin issues since the sort of "roll" down the barrel which can cause them to "curve" like a baseball. Even if the flex in the barrel isn't enough to shift point of aim that much, having the bbs coming out with alternate left/right spins could compound the effect.
@kev7777777777
@kev7777777777 7 ай бұрын
That's an interesting idea no one has come up with yet, alternate spinning of the bb's. That could be possible.
@pizza6447
@pizza6447 6 ай бұрын
bro i love this voice. its so easy to listen to and so calming. he talks about guns (airgun but still) yet id listen to this while falling asleep. damn
@DigitalNeb
@DigitalNeb 4 ай бұрын
Well, that gets my sub. Nice work man. Very interesting.
@oooooof5023
@oooooof5023 7 ай бұрын
The shot grouping looks like a barrel oscillation, potentially from the actuator or the firing impulses? Or both.
@charleyfarley68
@charleyfarley68 7 ай бұрын
It could be a dynamic funneling of the rounds, A real Slow Mo of the rounds flying will tell.
@Michael-uj2fb
@Michael-uj2fb 7 ай бұрын
Hopefully some helpful advice. To help with gaps in grouping, round ammo is not ideal unless you can create a spin on the BB. I'm looking forward to watching more as this is my first video of yours I've seen.
@codyramos3200
@codyramos3200 6 ай бұрын
The guy built this gun 20+ years ago. .
@DoctorTemblor
@DoctorTemblor 6 ай бұрын
It is amazing how you managed to make this video like this without using high speed cameras
@iplaygames8090
@iplaygames8090 4 ай бұрын
this has such old internet vibes, yet came out in 2023. Godspeed
@airgunningyup
@airgunningyup 7 ай бұрын
would love to see the internal mechanism.. Feeding the BBs to the chamber at that rate is difficult.
@benjaminshropshire2900
@benjaminshropshire2900 7 ай бұрын
What would be really cool would be to see the insides working in slow motion to see what's causing the bursts. Does anyone know if the CCDs in high speed cameras are sensitive to x-rays? This seems like something @AppliedScience might be interested in figuring out.
@MatthewZelek-iv8tb
@MatthewZelek-iv8tb 7 ай бұрын
I can tell you already the bursts are from pressure variances and or turbulence.
@rangerdanger222
@rangerdanger222 7 ай бұрын
It could be binding of the bbs.
@RBMK-ym4dm
@RBMK-ym4dm 7 ай бұрын
@@benjaminshropshire2900 the X-Ray source you'd need to use to use to film that is only available at National Labs. You need a particle accelerator to get an x-ray source that bright.
@benjaminshropshire2900
@benjaminshropshire2900 7 ай бұрын
@@RBMK-ym4dm A few quick searches suggest there are man portable, commercially available X-ray units that are powerful enough that they can inspect large steel weldments in a reasonable amount of time. IIRC those systems are *well* into the "don't stick any part of yourself in there that you would mind falling off" power levels an you can get full motion video at exposures below that used for normal medical x-rays. I'd totally believe that you could end up with rather grainy results, but I'd have to call [citation required] on saying you would need national labs level sources to get anything. I suspect some sort of x-ray strobe source synced to the CCD would end up being part of the operation. You might not get high frame rates from that, but even lower rate very short exposures could be very useful in seeing what's happening.
@jasont80
@jasont80 7 ай бұрын
Amazing! Clean design. I'd love to for you to break down your feeding mechanism! I feel like that's where the improvements need to be made.
@tylergood9168
@tylergood9168 7 ай бұрын
scrolling through the comments to see if anyone mentioned it. I agree. It was not mentioned from what I heard. he couldn't possibly be using gravity...(?) with all the air, there must be a charged feed. ...electromagnetic? super bitchin. great stuff.
@trollmcclure1884
@trollmcclure1884 6 ай бұрын
there's no second hose or container full of steel BB's. He may be feeding it through the air hose somehow. Maybe the "magazine" itself is pressurized. One hole keeps supplying the air while pushing the balls and the second hole goes out. It's a mystery but it cant be too sophisticated
@MP-qn1jw
@MP-qn1jw 3 ай бұрын
A masterpiece. Thanks!
@taldal1923
@taldal1923 3 ай бұрын
I've waited years for this
@vne5195
@vne5195 7 ай бұрын
Maybe the firing rate is consistent, but the barrel is oscillating (bending/whipping) fast enough to cluster the impact points. I would certainly expect greater horizontal oscillation due to the acceleration imparted by pneumatic panning mechanism used to move the gun from right to left. Perhaps it is possible to to plot the audio wave form of a series of shots to better understand the variation in firing rate. Audacity is a free app that can plot the wave form of audio files.
@back40snuts
@back40snuts 7 ай бұрын
300fps or even 120 frames per second would have helped significantly, majority of smart phones can do around 240 no problem, some newer ones 480 and even 900+
@heinous70
@heinous70 7 ай бұрын
I think his work deserves an upgrade. Several years ago, in an attempt to get some interesting stills from the range, we shot some slow-mo footage. We not only caught the fire and shell casings shots we were after, we caught one frame of around in flight, a foot and a half away from the muzzle. With a Samsung phone
@toad3222
@toad3222 6 ай бұрын
Brother
@lifeofgarrett
@lifeofgarrett 2 ай бұрын
That is by far the best thing I have seen today
@copperry4381
@copperry4381 6 ай бұрын
This was pretty great nice work
@matthewloxton2570
@matthewloxton2570 6 ай бұрын
Cool Two points: 1. you cant ignore the slow startup shots, those need to be kept in your calculation of overall rate 2. Moving the target is maybe a better approach than swinging the gun. Many competition targets have a journal roll behind that is essentially a big roll of paper unrolling on the one side and being rolled up again on the other side. That shows whether more than one round went through the same hole on the target, and also shows up any fluctuations in the firing rate.
@pumello
@pumello 6 ай бұрын
I bet that a roll of paper would be a lot cheaper than all the (not) coke cans too haha
@GeorgeTsiros
@GeorgeTsiros 6 ай бұрын
the starting delay is due to the location of the valve. Place the valve closer to the barrel, so that the hose maintains pressure, there won't be any perceivable delay.
@CorePathway
@CorePathway 4 ай бұрын
No he does not need to keep the slow start. There are no rules stating max rpm is defined by anything more than whatever time he chooses.
@teejin669
@teejin669 4 ай бұрын
Why can't he ignore the startup shots?
@johnathandavis3693
@johnathandavis3693 7 ай бұрын
What happened to the guy that remarked "This has been done a million times"? I guess he went to troll heaven👼
@stephenaddison7212
@stephenaddison7212 3 ай бұрын
Absolute insanity Well done
@jrhamilton4448
@jrhamilton4448 3 ай бұрын
I think it's safe to say sir, those cans that survived won't be bothering anybody again anytime soon.
@Bantallas
@Bantallas 4 ай бұрын
Like the ingenuity with the limited Equipment.
@watervapor42
@watervapor42 4 ай бұрын
this is awesome keep up the work
@user-mg5dn2zt6e
@user-mg5dn2zt6e 4 ай бұрын
Came across this video, will say hats off to ya my friend
@brtt_
@brtt_ 3 күн бұрын
If my math teachers had told me I could use math for this, I would have paid more attention.
@flugruger25
@flugruger25 2 ай бұрын
The idea of 20 barrels firing for a whole minute gives you a perspective how much 2 million actually is
@dreaticadta806
@dreaticadta806 6 ай бұрын
you are a genious, do you plan to post a blueprint or something for explain your work ?
@glennbrymer4065
@glennbrymer4065 2 ай бұрын
Nice! Well done sir, well done!
@AdmiralSym
@AdmiralSym 4 ай бұрын
Metal storm! What a classic YT video
@SJR_Media_Group
@SJR_Media_Group 2 ай бұрын
Gotta love a man who knows how to 'crank the numbers'.... fellow math and physics geek. You sir have a bright future...
@WhatSmellsLikeToast
@WhatSmellsLikeToast 6 ай бұрын
I just watched your video about the valve, really great work! Do you have somewhere we can learn more about this project? CAD files or anything?
@lukephilpot5660
@lukephilpot5660 6 ай бұрын
That's mental. So good!
@starpuss
@starpuss 6 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work!!!
@feelup1111
@feelup1111 4 күн бұрын
The gaps will be down to the harmonics of the barrel. Really good job, next level skills.
@jacob_90s
@jacob_90s 6 ай бұрын
I was about to lose my mind at the thought that you weren't going to show the coke cans in real time. Clutched it at the end though
@niklaswo
@niklaswo 4 ай бұрын
I just imagined you not showing the real time shot at the end and it literally twisted my gut 😂
@jakelandry5645
@jakelandry5645 3 ай бұрын
There is NOTHING to be disappointed about regarding those results my guy.
@Travistyj
@Travistyj 6 ай бұрын
Just Wow, really cool man and great job
@davidwitkopii291
@davidwitkopii291 2 ай бұрын
Awesome man!
@ArnieMcStranglehold
@ArnieMcStranglehold 3 ай бұрын
Well, this man has created the current, definitive, "fullest auto".
@meneerjakob
@meneerjakob 6 ай бұрын
Very cool! How does it work?
@smagnusen
@smagnusen 4 ай бұрын
I would love to see a long format version of your development process
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