ArcFlash Labs EMG-02 CoilGun: Making SciFi Weapons Into Reality

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ArcFlash Labs has come out with a new coil gun design that takes the best elements of their underpowered EMG-01 and their overly bulky GR-1 Anvil and melded them into a much handier EMG-02. This new design maintains the same muzzle velocity as the Anvil (200-250 fps / 60-75 m/s) but uses smaller projectiles (5/16" armatures). It is far better handling, with the balance much improved by having a single large capacitor mounted at the rear and a battery directly under the grip. That battery is also now a commercial off-the-shelf rechargeable lithium-ion type.
It's quite a lot of fun to shoot, and I am excited to see where this technology continues to develop!
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[@ahugefan7059]

Finally, after all those times pretending to reload the battery of a hand drill like it's a real gun comes into play.

[@Glaaki13]

lol iv done that a few times

[@hazloner117]

Doing trim work I would often hit the deck and reload my nail gun in the most dramatic fashion possible. Pissed everyone off but fuck did I think it was funny.

[@raykaufman7156]

👍😆

[@trenth7749]

@@hazloner117 I've done that with a staple gun

[@bravo_cj]

Firearm fans in China.exe

[@Kevin-jb2pv]

To anyone who understands capacitors _at all,_ that huge capacitor on the back of the new model is _absolutely fucking terrifying._

[@leomonk974]

i agree lmao

[@eduardopupucon]

cap explosion will be the new garand finger and revolver drum chain firing

[@williebeamish5879]

Microwave safe, just wait until the Boston Dynamic dogs get one mounted with AI doing the automatic targeti while addressing citizens to stand down they're breaking curfew .

[@PeterMaddison2483]

You could use it as a grenade when you feel it getting really hot, just lob your weapon at the enemy, who, never seeing anything like it, will pick it up and 'play' with it... BOOOM!

[@BobPrivacy]

@@PeterMaddison2483 "...a real killer ... would've immediately asked about the little red button on the bottom of the gun..."

[@Kj16V]

As a T800 infiltration unit, I'm pleased to see we're one step closer to having a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.

[@starstrider3030]

underated comment

[@bonitabromeliads]

I was thinking it's more like a m41a pulse rifle caseless

[@robertosardonini6132]

absolutely underrated comment

[@andreasu.3546]

You know your weapons, buddy.

[@aceneto9386]

Sounds aweful to use something like this in modern combat just throw an emp and your whole squad is done

[@wazscience]

For your next test, you should try shooting rounds in to ballistics gel to see what kind of damage rounds from that gun can do.

[@Holfyy]

Probably nothing, when you see the paper target the bullet just spinned in the air and landed on it's side, it's a sign of low power.

[@alexpetrov8871]

200ft/s is lower end speed of airsoft shot, here 16:23 at 0.25 speed it is possible to count flying bullets, visually

[@popermen694]

@@alexpetrov8871 ya there were a few points in the video when you could see the round in the air for a fraction of a second.

[@dovakiin296]

This was my thought in testing this weapon. We don't get a very goo idea of what it's capable of when it's shot at a flimsy target. Another thought I had is if it was possible to belt feed it or otherwise extend it's magazine size.

[@masterchain3335]

If we knew the mass of the bullets we could pretty easily compute the kinetic energy (1/2*m*v^2) and compare it to a more conventional bullet. My guess is it's not very damaging. I mean, I still wouldn't want to get hit by it, but I kind of doubt it's lethal. I'm guessing somewhere around pellet gun, maybe less.

[@TheEvilCommenter]

"This thing will fire drill bits." If you can't rifle the barrel just rifle the bullets 😂

[@denvervandrey2883]

Shot gun slugs

[@saint-cetacean]

That's what I was thinking, could dowel pins with rifling grooves embedded in them self stabilize in flight?

[@1337penguinman]

@@saint-cetacean You'd actually be better served with fin stabilization since the projectile never physically touches the barrel.

[@Cinkodacs]

@@1337penguinman APFSDS coilgun? ;)

[@CannonGerbil]

Fin stablized sabotted rounds?

[@TheCarDemotic]

Never would I have imagined watching Ian fire drill bits from a 3D printed coilgun powered by a powertool battery

[@countrytodd4614]

Yeah that was an odd combination on the bingo card, but we got it

[@Tbrous4]

Legit sounds like a mad lib

[@jphilb]

At least he can go pick up the bits and use them in the shop.

[@nemofunf9862]

The future is now, old man.

[@TeslaHaxz]

then you just werent imagining hard enough

[@onerimeuse]

300 full power shots on one battery is pretty legit, considering a standard rifleman combat load is 210 to 300, rounds. Now they just need to get the muzzle velocity up a bit and we're good to go. Love it. And this was 8 months ago! Can't wait for the next one.

[@markthompson8656]

hell yea. get muzzle velocity up to over 1000fps and you have a winner!

[@onerimeuse]

@@markthompson8656 according to a quick search it's up to 75m/s or about 246 freedoms per second, so it's got a little ways to go. I imagine they're refining the system at a civilian sales safe level (since this is barely scratching airsoft guns, just with much heavier projectiles) before they start ramping it up. I give it.... two years maybe.

[@StormTheSquid]

I can see the muzzle velocity getting higher pretty easily. Hacksmith did it, so can they.

[@bigdickpornsuperstar]

"... up a bit"? Ya Think? My Daisy Red Ryder spring operated BB gun has a higher muzzle velocity. I ain't shitty you..... 85 to 90 m/s when well oiled with a new spring. This glorified rubber band shooter is only a threat to balloons, glass windows, and stationary insects.

[@speedy01247]

​@@bigdickpornsuperstar the original guns were bamboo rods firing rocks, things take time to get better. This is clearly still a work in progress and definitely not ready for military use.

[@starstreamir3817]

I've been tinkering with this concept since the latter half of the 90s. One thing I've noticed with coil guns that most others have built, is that they seem to mostly use electrolytic capacitors and coils with higher resistances, (wound with more turns of thinner wire). The best, (and scariest), results I ever had was when I used pulse capacitors with 3 stages of lower resistance coils, (wound with fewer turns of much thicker wire). Of course this comes with its own set of problems, (mainly with switching due to the extremely high voltages and currents), but heat management was less of a problem. The projectile I mostly used was a specialized iron 'dart' coated in PCL thermoplastic. From about ten meters it could easily penetrate 3/4 inch plywood and leave a deep pock in the concrete wall behind it. The last test resulted in the recoil ripping the coils off their mounts and sending one of them flying backwards in the opposite direction of the projectile, but the projectile penetrated the same 3/4 inch plywood and embedded a little over halfway into a Jacksonville Florida phone book. After that, I just never got around to rebuilding it. I've always been really fascinated with high energy/high voltage applications, but I don't really forsee myself building anything else like that in the near future, but maybe other tinkerers here can make use of this information and succeed where I failed. 😉

[@shmillbe3390]

Pics or it didn't happen

[@starstreamir3817]

@@shmillbe3390 Welllll... I suppose you're not wrong. 🤷‍♀ I wish that phone cameras were a thing back in 1998-99. ...Although I probably wouldn't have been able to afford one at that time.

[@johndeer-he5de]

Well I know you are lying so there's that.

[@eugenecrabs8622]

what type of capacitors did you use? "pulse capacitors" unfortunately doesn't tell much to me. Film capacitors? what kind of film, what nominal voltage? etc.

[@mm-ly9df]

please elaborate on your design

[@alexdemoya2119]

Looking forward to Ian's clone in 2122 doing a video about early coilguns of the early 21st century and their development before WW3

[@IAssassinII]

By that point Gun Jesus will be preaching to his flock of wastelanders outside of the bunker doors of the Titan missile museum.

[@AshleyPomeroy]

@@IAssassinII Instead of worshipping a nuclear bomb Ian's followers will gesticulate before "the Holy Show-Show".

[@WhatIsThatThingDoing]

@@IAssassinII The same bunker breached and secured by a fireteam of LPL clones towards the end of the war.

[@MDoomhammer]

why a clone? he is Gun-Jesus, he just has to descend from heaven at that time for a review? or maybe use divine Wi-Fi if he can't be bothered to come down here? :p

[@gpheonix1]

you mean ww5

[@jimcappa6815]

It’s almost like going back to the days of the blunderbuss. Out of “official” ammo? Just use whatever will fit! Really cool to see how quickly they’ve improved the tech

[@chris101ward]

Not really "whatever" will fit. It needs to be a ferrous material.

[@JustAGooseman]

@@chris101ward You can buy stock tubes of iron and steel at most hardware stores so, just chop them to length and you're good to go

[@Aethgeir]

Indeed! And with the pins tumbling through the air, I actually wonder if "ball shot" wouldn't offer better aerodynamics.

[@danilonakazone386]

@@Aethgeir like ball bearings?

[@majorpwner241]

They just need to make it shoot about six times as fast...

[@Paradox1A9B2w7]

Comparison to a standard fire arm & bb gun BBgun: 360FPS = 395 Km/h BB = 0.3gr = 2 Joule = 109 m/s EMG-02 CoilGun: 200 FPS = 219.5 Km/h Screw bit = 15gr = 28 Joule = 61m/s 9mm rilfe: 1200FPS = 1317 Km/h Bullet = 7gr = 560 Joule = 400 m/s Not this is the speed it leaves the barrel. They all have drastically different joule/speed drop offs after that. Result EMG-02 CoilGun is 5% the power of a 9mm rifle. But has 14x more joule then a BB gun. 20 joule is considered deadly. As it can potentially pierce far enough to hit vital organs etc. So keep that in mind. Don't let it fool you. This thing is still dangerous enough to be handled like a fire arm. I only put this at the end, because i know there are idiots out there thinking to buy it as a "toy".

[@hoodio]

i hoped this would be covered in the video, thanks man

[@baronnuuke7821]

It doesn't really cover all of it. What if instead of standard pellets you use drill bits or crossbow steel bolts ?

[@KarlDRG]

Thank you for all of the science, it would be annoying to do it myself. However, for calling it a “toy,” I think that this would suit the idea of a “range toy.”

[@SeniorBillzy]

What about pellet rifles? Hpa pellet rifles could probably run circles around this. I don’t want to kill the concept but the execution still underwhelms me.

[@dickbuttbuttdick901]

It's still a toy, unfortunately A slingshot would vastly out perform it, and that's a toy too in this day and age. A dangerous toy, but a toy none the less.

[@shadowblade5656]

Another neat thing about it, at least in this current form, would be that you can just... go and collect and reuse most of the ammo if you've got a decent magnet broom

[@mrsizzy7329]

Coilgun appearance: looks like its from the future Coilgun sounds: Like a stapler

[@mariolisa2832]

This exactly

[@adambielen8996]

So accurate.

[@TheActionBastard]

Weren't there some staplers that used electromagnets or whatever to do the work? I seem to remember there being 90s staplers like that... back when paper was a thing...

[@tmseh]

My stapler. Can I have my stapler?

[@gcramer30]

I'm sure some industrious individual could simply include a speaker and project whatever firing sound they want. Star wars blaster sounds. 50cal, whip sound, clown springs, fapping noises. Idk... Bottom line, could be a future market for gauss gun firing noises. Ideally though, no sound on later versions will make it a snipers dream.

[@Ramonatho]

"This thing fires drill bits." We are one step closer to the fabled Gun That Fires Knives.

[@BAGELMENSK]

We need the gun that shoots another gun

[@victorfox9623]

I need a gun that shoots 9" nails.

[@victorfox9623]

Or one that can shoot railroad ties.

[@elijahm3688]

I mean, if you sharpen the drill bit...

[@wills2140]

5/16th inch is a mighty small knife .. The comment about sharpening ( or shaping ) the drill bits is spot on. ☺

[@RoyceSella-ex2dq]

Ian maxed out guns, putting skill points in science now.

[@Psilomuscimol]

Energy weapons and science?

[@Sannypowa]

That's a very cool gun, silent, no recoil, no muzzle-flash, lighter ammo magazines. Perfect

[@sincereflowers3218]

If only those projectiles hit a bit harder. They're cheap as all shit. Dowel pins sized enough for this gun run at about 400 for $30 😂

[@drb0mb]

sadly the no recoil is because there aint no energy behind each individual shot, we're talking like less than a paintball gun

[@Sannypowa]

@@drb0mb Of course, there are ways to reduce recoil on heavier guns, this is obviously not a heavy one

[@hedgehog3180]

@@drb0mb A lot of the recoil you feel in a gun doesn't come directly from the projectiles but rather the actions of the gun's mechanisms. Something like this would still only have the recoil from the projectile which can be easily compensated for.

[@levelynn3853]

​@@drb0mbDon't confuse speed for energy please, it has less projectile velocity than a paintball gun , it is around double the energy of most paintball guns. It will also transfer that energy way more effectively, by not shooting balls that explode and disperse out energy. It's nowhere near an actual gun that is for sure but this thing should still not be shot at a person it will definitely be dangerous. It is more comparable to an Airgun (Not to be confused with an airsoft gun) which you should also not be firing at people unlike a paintball gun.

[@rafaelsaez5596]

Ian is really out here testing futuristic guns while having a haircut and beard straight from the 1870's.

[@klad2860]

When you buy a high tier item as a low tier

[@puffypau6046]

LMAO

[@vao879]

Living the steam/ cyber punk dream

[@ryutripp5076]

Man living the fps life

[@mikeysgametime8914]

" I'm your huckleberry "

[@JC-ln6on]

“This thing can actually fire drill bits” Finally, a reason for me to keep up with all the hundreds of standard flats I’ve lost over the years.

[@JC-ln6on]

@@robinpage2730 I gave you a thumbs, but methinks you’re a bot.

[@JC-ln6on]

@@robinpage2730 Well Thankya.

[@charlesprokopp276]

Ar last! A use for all the poorly-hardened, worn out screw driver bits I've trashed in my time.

[@Phenixtri]

@@charlesprokopp276 good god if thats the case ive got a tool box full of spot-weld drill bits / newfound ammo in my garage 0_o

[@sodamanfromsodaland1548]

@@robinpage2730 Aren't we a bit too far into the future for using C?

[@contrapasta2454]

Ian's pure pleasure at firing this contraption is downright infectious.

[@Gumbo1]

Can’t wait for a full auto belt fed version

[@ottovonbearsmark8876]

0:23 If we can’t technically call it a “Gauss Rifle” could we call it a “Gauss Musket”? Because that still sounds sweet.

[@GeomancerHT]

Not a musket.

[@TheCrusha45]

Gauss Blaster!

[@robertpatter5509]

Mass Driver? Particle accelerator?

[@stopmotiongarage220]

or just Gauss Gun? "Say hello to GG."

[@abookishdragon4691]

@@GeomancerHT How is it not a musket? Essentially the difference between a musket and a rifle is the lack of rifling

[@MatthijsvanDuin]

Ways to tell a rail gun from a coil gun: If the projectile is fired between two conductive rails, it's a rail gun. If the projectile is fired through coils, it's a coil gun. If the choice of material for the projectile depends on its electrical conductivity, it's a rail gun. If the choice of material for the projectile depends on its magnetic properties, it's a coil gun. If upon firing the gun there's a bright flash of light and a loud bang: - If the designers go "YEAH BABY!" ... it's a rail gun. - If the designers go "OH GOD WHAT HAPPENED?!?" ... it *was* a coil gun.

[@Triumvirately]

That and if the power supply is the size of a conventional US navy ship nuclear reactor. (Talking about the rail gun)

[@rev.jonathanwint6038]

@@Triumvirately oh there are ways to get that power consumption way way down lol

[@joeparker9516]

Interesting information. I have designed three coil guns, but called them rail guns by mistake... OOPS!

[@Triumvirately]

@@joeparker9516 yeah, rail guns are like coil guns if your goal is to hit your target, several dozen feet of reinforced concrete, and bury the payload several dozen more feet under a bus sized crater… depending on the size of the payload.

[@MatthijsvanDuin]

@@matthewnienkirchen8083A coil gun isn't _necessarily_ slower than a rail gun, but it gets more and more complicated the higher you want the projectile speed to be because driving the coils with the correct timing to track the accelerating projectile gets more and more precise, and will require increasingly large voltage to change the magnetic fields rapidly enough (resulting in increased flashover risks). A rail gun doesn't have this particular problem since its fields naturally follow the projectile without requiring any external timing, though to compensate a railgun is just a much bigger headache overall, especially if you were hoping it fire it more than once ;-)

[@cron1807]

It is amazing how quiet that thing is. The ping on the target is significantly louder than the actual gauss cannon

[@louisvictor3473]

It is far from supersonic (it has hunting bow arrow speeds), and no explosion to propel the projectile. The clicking sounds you hear when it fires are likely just mechanical parts, and my guess it is all just the magazine.

[@rathkiee]

@@louisvictor3473 if it has the same firing system as the previous one, the click is likely the solenoid smacking the back of the projectile into the coils to launch them. other than that there really shouldn't be any noise at all.

[@louisvictor3473]

@@rathkiee That is the one I was trying to remember. The magazine has moving parts, but yeah, definitelly not the dominant sound.

[@jasonh.8754]

That may be the only upside of this weapon.

[@IsThisHandleTaken]

Will this now be featured in those ads where you can use 1 battery for your drill, saw, sander etc?

[@quentinking4351]

>Sees there is now copper-bearing PLA filament for 3D printers >Sees EMG-02 >Sees uses same battery as my power tools "Can I... 3D print shotcups and projectiles?" >Sees I can just shoot the piles of broken star-head screw driver bits I have "I am never going to financially recover from this"

[@simonrook5743]

The year is 2052 and a now late 60’s Ian is regaling how after the apocalypse there was a period when powder weapons reigned supreme until ammunition ran out, then the weapon you could power from the sun and would fire almost any chunk of steel came into its own and became the weapon of choice!

[@GuinessOriginal]

Firing drill bits is right out of fallout

[@THESLlCK]

@@GuinessOriginal good stuff lol

[@Pyrus335]

@@GuinessOriginal Firing drill bits makes home depot and lowes ammunition stores as well

[@Shinzon23]

The only problem with this is unlike a powder-based weapon in which anyone with a lathe can make one, to make an electromagnetic weapon you need computer parts and chips, you need a really good quality electro magnets, incredibly energy dense power cells, and a lot of other materials that frankly are not easily produced on your own or downright impossible for your average joe in his basement shelter.

[@squidwardo7074]

@@Shinzon23 That's why on their store they sell it for 2.5k

[@ChoChanit-cx1hp]

Put the battery in a backpack form that plugs into the gun. That would add more power and more capacitors on the gun itself. End result is higher velocity 😊

[@_KRose]

Firing that fast with zero recoil. These things are gonna be nuts when the technology matures a bit more 😵

[@aaronbradford736]

If they ever put self stabilizing rounds in it.

[@Sean_XT]

This is a mix of sci-fi, musket level accuracy, and the fire rate of a modern assault rifle.

[@thenecromancer8805]

So basically it's never going to see real use.

[@Sean_XT]

@@thenecromancer8805 in its current iteration, no. It is currently too crude to be of any practical use past 20yds

[@BetaBreaking]

@@Sean_XT still a pretty neat futuristic musket

[@checker297]

@@BetaBreaking eh, I doubt this will every become viable outside of space warfare where the vacuum environment and thin protection makes these viable. And that assumes we are sending humans to fight in space, where a drone/missile of some kind will be far more effective. I mean, even denying oxygen resupply would be enough to kill your enemy lol.

[@TheAxmore]

@@checker297 conventional firearms would work in space so you dont even really need something like this

[@coltonthorpe7812]

Imagine what kind of leaps and bounds this design can make with graphene capacitors and solid state batteries.

[@peasantjeff4731]

Once that happens, you can bet this will enter the military fast!

[@bubba200874426]

@@peasantjeff4731 They'll need to solve projectile stabilization, or it will never be accurate enough for military adoption.

[@peasantjeff4731]

@@bubba200874426 the trillions in the M.I.C will pour in and solve that issue pretty fast, if a tech is promising enough the DoD/MIC will jump in on it before completion.

[@maudiojunky]

@@peasantjeff4731 I imagine you could just spin the projectile up on a motorized platter which grips it magnetically (mounted normal to the barrel at the rear of the chamber), then release it and have the coils pull the now-spinning projectile down the barrel like usual. No rifling needed if the forces are well-balanced and the alignment is good.

[@ace448]

@@bubba200874426 sabots with darts in them. Think miniature AFPDS rounds. Stabilization is relatively easy to fix.

[@Cyromantik]

I'm loving how the charging cable is using a B&C connector, I used to have a laserdisc player that used the same connection type. I'm loving the whole sci-fi aesthetic at work here!

[@Kalidor5004]

BNC

[@johnslugger]

*When I was in the Military DARPA sent a test model coil gun out to us with along with some manufacturing reps. from the company. Our gun could KILL. It shoot .25 calibrator steel/carbide tipped darts that where 7.5" long and weighed 560 grains ea. They looked like small arrows. It held 34 darts in a disposable or reusable rotating dram and the darts had rifling grooves on their whole length which made the darts spin and made them difficult to pull out of bone. The coils electromagnets also induced magnetic fields in the darts which made them spin and become magnetized after passing through the barrel. The barrel had a silicon carbide coated sleeve good for 250,000 rounds. At sub sonic 1020 feet per second it had 7 times the penetrating power of a 45 ACP pistol and held 1" groups from 250 yards while being 100% silent. Using ballistic gel we calculated the dart would pass through 4 human bodies including ribs and spin. Very deadly short range weapon for special Ops. The power-pack was as a disposable aluminum air battery with 1150kw and Maxwell Super-caps for power release. Result: The department of Navy needed more range so a model with 14" by 17 caliber darts has been proposed next in both subsonic and full power 2800 FPS models. Darts include metal penetrating and "SHREAD" DARTS that deform on impact. THE ADVANTAGE OF DARTS OVER BULLETS is that they have more mass in a more air resistant shape like an arrow. This could be the future cross over weapons before pure energy weapons are developed (Plasma burst weapons are next after 2050).*

[@ben_9134]

I'm so impressed with how much progress has been made since version one! It looks so much handier and more practical.

[@IAssassinII]

And the fire-rate is much improved. Excited to see the third version!

[@dlmsarge8329]

Makes you wonder where they'll be in 1yr , 5 yrs? I for one am staying tuned!

[@jackvearncombe9892]

@@dlmsarge8329 the electrical-side can be upgraded so much more! Right with you with being so curious as to see where it will be in the years and even months to come 😃

[@calmsoul772]

@@dlmsarge8329 Unfortunately, couple of decades likely. We are limit by battery and capacitor technology by a lot and I mean a lot

[@Devin_Stromgren]

@@calmsoul772 Given that Ian said that drill battery is good for about 300 rounds, I think we've got quite a bit of leeway in current battery tech before it starts limiting development.

[@CharChar2121]

Railgun: A quarterback holds the ball and charges forward. The quarterback tends to tear his arms and legs apart in the process. Coilgun: Several golfers line up and hit the ball as it passes by them. They must be in perfect synchronization or it doesn't work. In either case, one can hit the ball harder or accelerate it over a greater distance.

[@Kharmitas]

And both get harder to make work well the faster you're aiming for, either way. The railgun because it erodes faster, the coilgun because the faster the projectile is moving, the narrower the timing of the coil switching needs to get for that perfect synch.

[@rubiconnn]

@@Kharmitas The timing of the coils isn't really the issue, microcontrollers can read sensors, calculate data, then control the coils many orders of magnitude faster than a coil gun can accelerate a projectile. The biggest issue is a power source able to provide the necessary current.

[@adawg3032]

Rail guns in future will have some kind of super alloy possibly for the conductor rails or if not maybe quick swap rail conductors

[@pihermoso11]

So my question is the large hadron collider a looped rail gun or a looped coil gun? I know it uses electromagnets to fly the particles around it and make it collide with other particles but is it rail or coil?

[@lordbertox4056]

@@pihermoso11 coils, the particles arente touching anything before the impact.

[@MattStevens9824]

Your clothes, the location, the gun... it's giving me FALLOUT 4 vibes. What a cool gun!

[@differentbutsimilar7893]

Hah, with the backdrop, aviators, and cowboy hat I was thinking more New Vegas. Pretend these things are around, but nobody knows how to make them work. They sell for a lot to collectors, which you may pursue after unlocking the Gauss weapon mastery perk. They won't sell to you for less that 99,999 caps unless they're talking to a fellow connoisseur, and you can't use it even if you steal it. You may also sell them the ones you don't use, where regular vendors won't even buy them. The guy who looks like this and only uses coil/rail systems teaches you how to rebuild and use them. And then you have to decide if you turn over the knowledge to the NCR, House, or neither. House makes you kill Ian to progress his main quest after. You're better off not telling him. He knows Ian and Ian knows him. And if House can't have the tech, it's a liability to him. He just can't find or fight Ian. Ian knows how to hide and how to fight, and understands esoteric, old-world ballistic tech like nobody alive. His bag of tricks is dastardly. He may be the most knowledgeable expert in munitions and combat tactics on the continent. As dangerous as he can be valuable. Once he knows you can reach Ian, you have to bring him/end him before proceeding. NCR wants to kill him to preserve the secret of the tech and keep it out of the hands of people like House and the b-hood after getting it to themselves, but can be convinced not to depending on certain factors. Ian may even be convinced to join if given access to tools and a job making weapons the best they can be without having to hide in the middle of a hot zone, teaching troops how they work and how to shoot, so on. Perhaps at the Hoover, some rangers use them and it gives an edge to you. Or you can tell him of their plot and join him in taking down the NCR... using a souped up version of the coilgun he gave you for helping him before. You could probably also just shoot him and take that coilgun after learning how to use them. Or sneak in and steal it lol. But if you're caught and you have to fight him, he has a DR of 85 and it turns out those dowels can one-shot deathclaws. If you do none of this, send him to work for the NCR, he eventually gives you a different coilgun with roughly equivalent benefit factor, or produces legendary mods for standard models. The old Enclave guys might like you more if you show them a certain one that sparks a memory. Maybe Ian can help with access to NCR resources. Brotherhood would just come and try to take it if they weren't hiding in a bunker, but if any of them see you with one they might reward you in exchange for letting them analyze it. If you're a foe, they might kill you to take it. Obviously *Ian's Coilgun* is a much coveted weapon for people specced into both guns and energy weapons, gaining damage and accuracy from both. It is a devestating and versatile weapon capable of everything from non-lethal crowd control to a deathclaw army fitted with laser gatlings. It can even be used as a stealth assasination tool, at range with single-fire self-spinning, and close by switching to full auto short dowels that dispatch with quick and quiet bursts. The tradeoff in the steep skill requirement to wield it that way is that you can craft a multitude of good rounds for it from literally any scrap metal item with no investment in repair. Melt down some forks, metal dinner plates, etc. You could build to the 9s for it and rule the wastes with a forgotten weapon that nobody can match or use. Maybe you befriend a character who gives you a unique one for free because it wasn't doing them any good and nobody wanted to buy it for how rare it was. It's endgame. But finding Ian is only half of the battle. You have to impress him with your firearms knowledge (guns check,) or he won't even break way from his tinkering to speak with you. You can reduce the check by showing him a rare and powerful gun. Bypass it by letting him take it for 3 days. And even then, the marksmanship challenges are no joke... nor are the places he sends you to get the parts for his prototype. You'll probably want to wait until you are at least level 30 to even try. With speech 90 you can at least bypass the guns/marksmanship checks to get to the mission. If you wait long enough to get to another unrelated quest, you can find him on the verge of dying and save him with medicine skill. But the mission is the part you wish you could skip. The whole time you will think "If only I had Ian's Coilgun..."

[@calebcase80]

Railroad tie gun😂

[@differentbutsimilar7893]

@@calebcase80 Nahhhhh that thing is just a regular ballistic gun that happens to run on pneumatic force. It's just a goofy air rifle, like a big BB gun that shoots railway ties, or an over-glorified potato gun. The whole gun + railroad thing I think makes people think "railgun" but a railgun is strictly an electromagnetic weapon. It just uses charged rails to bring an armature up the barrel that can then slingshot the projectile out at speeds upwards of mach 7. It works like an electric motor. Two oppositely charged rails connected to a power supply push an armature between them (typically a conductive sliding bolt) when current runs across the three via the armature itself connecting the load side of the circuit. If there's a bolt in there when you put power to the rails, it flies. The two rails have EMFs spinning into one another because of their opposing charges and parallel alignment, so when you put that armature in the circuit, physically sitting between those fields, it is ejected forward, perpendicular to the two rails. This is because of Lorentz force - when those two oppositely-rotating fields meet one another, magnetic force pushes at right angles from the rails and armature, as in... down the barrel. The armature can be part of the projectile (I mean, the projectile is essentially a bolt too,) or a permanent mechanism in the gun that can allow it to fire even non-conductive projectiles. But that's what you need for it to be a railgun of any kind. FWIW, the muzzle velocities on em are terrifying, well beyond what we get with regular controlled rapid combustion. Like, these things really can go upwards of mach 7. The fastest regular firearms do like mach 4 and tend to be smaller projectiles. Railguns are just impractical to power, are way too big, and wear the hell out too easy. The railroad deffo aint the ones pulling that one off. A coilgun like the EMG uses solenoid coils to push the mass of a ferromagnetic projectile down the barrel, also like an electric motor, but relying on (essentially) free-floating ferromagnetic projectiles instead of an armature that has to make a physical, electrical connection with rails while moving multiple times the speed of sound like in a railgun. It's more related to the Gauss Rifle than the Railway Rifle, if we're talking FO4. The name of that weapon is just another word for "coilgun," which is what the EMG-02 actually is. Though I must admit the steam and train sounds make me smile and giggle like a toddler, and if ever it was a real thing that existed, I would own one and pin objects to trees with it every day while pulling an invisible train horn and making train sounds.

[@amhuman5138]

@@differentbutsimilar7893 This man has formulated a FNV mod that must be made.

[@user-zv3iy4zo4p]

fuck i hate that game . bethesda is garbage

[@mikedavis1127]

Would interesting to see them have a polycarb or whatever barrel, that was rifled / threaded - and the bolts come with that threading so that instead of interference rifling , you'd have spin induced by some sort of low drag threading

[@gabriellang7998]

or you can rifle the bullets?

[@pr0xZen]

​@@gabriellang7998That was the point, both barrel and projectile being rifled, just used "threaded". However at anything close to this power stage, I'm doubtful that would work. Because it would introduce a comparatively huge amount of friction, whereas these current models practically has no friction at all.

[@KITDFOHS]

I'd love to see the ballistics gel test just for the pure ridiculousness of all of this. Gotta admit this is awesome.

[@justpette1503]

I am eager to have the answer on whether or not this will become a legit lethal and useful thing or if it'll remain a gimmick. Only time will tell UNLESS there's a proper scientific research that talk about it (but I don't have any link, hence the comment :) )

[@raiden000]

pretty sure a winter jacket is gonna be enough to protect you lol.

[@murphy7801]

@@justpette1503 not really a gimmick it's just selling R and D

[@Bikonito]

pretty sure it would just bounce off

[@Str4ng3F0lk]

oof it'd be gnarly

[@KertaDrake]

The accuracy, style, and penetration on this thing makes me wonder if it's X-Com standard issue...

[@dvpant3651]

Definitely something X-Com would field. 99% chance to hit with this baby and it would still miss 😆

[@therocinante3443]

@@dvpant3651 LOL I call Xcom "the miss game"

[@stupidanon5941]

I immediately thought of Fallout.

[@jgottula]

It really needs the sweet sound effects of Long War’s Gauss Rifles. 😛

[@papabeanguy]

lol. yes

[@nicoleibundgut534]

Wanted to build one of these gauss guns 13 years ago with a friend. i was 14 at the time. We knew how it worked but we haven't had the skills for it sadly. very nice to see it in action.

[@defcon4824]

Instead of using a flathead drill bit, use a Phillips heads. And instead of the drill bit just being a Phillips, bend the flaps in one direction and it could create a spin on the projectile, resulting in possibly more accuracy

[@drb0mb]

it'd have to have surfaces that spring out of the round on exit from the barrel to have enough area for air to implement a torque capable of stabilization. Would be extremely expensive to make it work at this scale, but what you're talking about is a real thing similar to some smoothbore tank ammunition, check out "armor piercing fin stabilized discarding sabot"

[@suspectsn0thing]

Even if this doesn't take off, coilguns are cool as hell, one of my favorite bits of sci-fi tech, and it's awesome to see it actually making its way into the real world. It's also cool as hell getting to see a firearm expert's views on something like this.

[@LeeAndersonMusic]

I could see coil guns being used by law enforcement as a form of less lethal. Though not this one specifically. I saw one that fires metal disks at quite some speed. It wouldn't be lethal, but they'd hurt like hell. And being able to shoot 50+ of those things per magazine, I think it would be a lot more efficient than beanbags

[@alphagt62]

One advantage is, you can take a large magnet and run it around the target gong area and recover your ammo!

[@UnlclinicallyInsane]

@@LeeAndersonMusic not a bad idea. Like a little plastic shell for pepperspray, or a beanbag you mentioned. Maybe even a long range, no wire taser would be cool. I wanted to make a “sabot/flechette” thingy for a ar-15. You put it on the end of the barrel, like a rifle grenade, and the bullet is caught, and the taser thing is launched. So you could theoretically tase someone 4x the distance.

[@Ribbons0121R121]

i think it might take off due to cheap reusable ammo and relatively not a lot of complex parts cheap, versatile, very quiet and low recoil make them good for stealth, and no flash to give away your position all in all if one ever gets mass produced the army would probably contract it

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

@@Ribbons0121R121 this should take off like a rocket for exactly the reasons you mentioned. The ammo will be so cheap. It doesn't need complex chemicals engineered like a bullet. Those batteries are good for 300 rounds. This is the near future. Silent. No recoil. No moving parts. Nothing to clean. Zero maintenance. The few parts it has are cheap and easy to swap out by the user. I would expect to see several designs within 3 years. Multiple low number test weapons. And full production within less than 10 years of different types. It's already working, but it needs higher speeds and better aiming.

[@572089]

now all they need to do is make one that can fire hardware store nail strips and we can finally have the Quake Nailgun.

[@viperdemonz-jenkins]

that would be sweet.

[@Wesmancan]

More to life than video games. Turn it off.

[@viperdemonz-jenkins]

@@Wesmancan dude chill we are talking a sciFi weapon.

[@572089]

@@Wesmancan lmao. I don't even play quake. its an iconic part of game history and it's refrenced everywhere. how bout you turn your screen off instead of tellin folks what to do with their spare time?

[@novaseer]

@@Wesmancan you know people are allowed to have fun, y'know?

[@DavidTokugi44]

Would love to see the next iteration and hopefully they figure out the tumbling situation, can’t help but think of the gyrojet with having fins, but would probably be of a hinderance

[@Edua1111]

At this point why not just use bearing balls as projectiles?

[@kynaston1474]

Dude the gyrojet ammo is a perfect solution for this thing's abysmally low velocity. That's actually kind of brilliant.

[@Voltaic_Fire]

​​@@kynaston1474Are you thinking of magnetically stabilised and accelerated gyrojet rounds? Make them explosive and we got ourselves a bolter!

[@richardevans6132]

I was thinking the same, maybe fluted rounds?

[@Patherfinder1234]

im so impressed by the creativity of this firearm. Like the steps between the EMG01 to this latest model is huge in such a small time! I'm amazed to see what the future holds in store!

[@diestormlie]

DANGER: This weapon is dangerous and absolutely, *unspeakably* Cool.

[@robertpatter5509]

Their GR-1 model has 75 ft lbs of energy. Which is closer to being lethal. I think 80 ft lbs of energy has a 20% lethality rate.

[@collinb.8542]

@@robertpatter5509 I wonder how long/ if it is possible to produce a coilgun for actual combat. I know rn there's many constraints on batteries which restricts weapons like this but they are very cool.

[@jondepinet]

@@collinb.8542 i bet a large military contractor could make something like this work for a military application today. the lithium power pack for hand tools hold enough energy to be within the realm of feaseable for a combat loadout. 2-3 battery packs to 6-12 mags with about 150-200 rounds of ammo is not out of the question. making it more powerful is straightforward. making it accurate isnt impossible, but is a bit tricky, thats where the larger budget would come in.

[@krulerwest-oz7364]

@@collinb.8542 Waiting for more breakthroughs in super conductor materials that don't have to be super cooled, this one thing is holding back an actual shittonne of already proven and viable tech, some of it decades old, that's how long that one problem has been holding stuff back, otherwise we would now have fast efficient magnetic levitation (MAglev) trains and cars everywhere.

[@Blox117]

@@collinb.8542 its possible now, you just need to put a lot of amps through those coils and it will move a bullet

[@Roblecop]

I'm really glad that Arcflash is still continuing these products and research into electrically powered guns. There will come a time when these are viable replacements to traditional firearms. Arcflash I think will always be a name to remember as an innovator in this field.

[@letsgowinnietheflu5439]

To protect from EMP pulse makes them impractical for any large scale military or law enforcement use.

[@PilotAwe]

@@letsgowinnietheflu5439 Just make the outer layer sheetmetal instead of plastic?

[@codebebop]

Just think, I can purchase 1000 bullets from my favorite reloading company for $119. This literally makes ammo cheap lol 😂. I can see a Mega Chad at a Tesla recharging station like, “charging up my XJ556 Rifle”. While holding up the line of Tesla car owners in his Ford Raptor. Lol 😂

[@tadeuszgladysz7387]

@@codebebop yeah, wait till government ban lead and powder because environment hazard

[@foximacentauri7891]

@@letsgowinnietheflu5439 by that logic the military shouldn’t use radios, GPS, computers, modern aircraft or any other electronic devices. EMPs don’t work like that.

[@flyback_driver]

A railgun has two conductive surfaces of opposite polarity to utilize Lorentz force as a means of propellant. Basically short circuiting the system using the projectile and when that happens a string magnetic force is generated forcing it down the rails until the shirt circuit is fixed. A coil gun is pulling rather than pushing. It has one or usually many coils set up in a linear path turning on the off quickly to pull the projectile into the coil and is generally less efficient. A common method is to use a led and photodiode combination to switch the coils off but inductors do not release it immediately. So as the projectile is being pulled in (down the barrel) it is also being pulled in (the opposite direction) slightly but not enough to overwhelm the ever increasing energy of the projectile. It's the reason the navy was testing the railgun and not a coil gun. A railgun is not a feasible with the technology we have for a portable option and is prone to jamming or more accurately the rounds welding inside the barrel. A ship can handle carrying spare barrels and the ICs to handle automation of that but probably not infantry. Not yet anyways (looking at you future soldier program).

[@danielfoster2788]

You people don’t understand the many ways that monopole coils are wound.

[@flyback_driver]

@@danielfoster2788 please show me an example of a monopole magnet. It can be permanent or electromagnet. So far it's not theoretically possible.

[@danielfoster2788]

@@flyback_driver We are familiar with hallbach and pile magnets grouping that are very closely monopole not perfectly so. Fractal coils produce much better monopoles. Half spherical coils cancel magnetism within. There are monopoles POE toroidal coil windings, and star coil windings that are monopole.

[@SnekInTheGrass]

Love the 3d printed body, really looks like a project you could find schematics for on thingiverse/printables, very inspiring to see how far the designers came from to get to this.

[@teknoaxe]

I realize that it's a cool thing to have buttons and a digital screen to select your mode and to keep track of your rounds/speed. But I suspect if one of these things makes it into practical use, those things will probably be the first things to go. You can easily replace mode selection with a selector switch to input into the digital system and program whatever it is running the system on the gun to take that sort of input. That way instead of squinting down at your screen trying to figure out if you're in burst, you can easily tell where you're at with the position of the switch without even looking.

[@Duck_Destroyer_88]

Having a screen to show the charge level still seems like it would be useful. Definitely a physical switch for fire mode and safe would be more practical though

[@ARCNA442]

@@Duck_Destroyer_88 Most powertools use LEDs to show charge level - that would probably make the most sense here too.

[@josephbest6216]

Many of those kind of powertool batteries even have charge indicator LEDs built in.

[@AClockworkWizard]

What I was thinking as well. You need to do a lot of work to make a screen legible in daylight (you essentially need it to be brighter than the Sun which is pretty bright I'm told by people who actually go outside). My initial thought was to make a hooded recess with LEDs next to labels, but a simple mechanical switch is a much better idea. Charge levels can be represented with an array of LEDs or something. Other data seems to be mostly for debugging, but I'm no expert in coilguns. Overall, this is obviously a prototype that was designed and tested indoors, and it's pretty great. Would be interesting to see how they go about stabilising the projectile.

[@JohnDoe-vm5rb]

Probably, but iirc they likened these to the wright brother's aircraft vs an ar15's jet fighter; that screen is there to show the user the 'debug' stuff as much as anything. When the next gen/more reliably ones start turning up, then I'll be surprised if you're not right and it gets replaced.

[@claudiaborges8406]

I’m just waiting for the day we hear Ian saying: “today we’ll be looking at a shotgun coilgun”

[@Paulunatr]

space blunderbuss!

[@p.rileebenjamin7201]

Envisioning it as a muzzle loader.

[@MrRourk]

Today I fire the Wave Motion Cannon

[@squarewheels2491]

Project SPIW revisited.

[@raznaak]

On that note, could they load like a pack of needles or something in a nonmagnetic holder to make it a single-shot flechettes shotgun (single shot because the nonmagnetic holder needs to be ejected each time from the magazine). I don't know if it would even be possible to have a low-magnetism holder to shoot it at the same time as the needles but at a lower speed and distance?

[@tendracalrissian8820]

The tumbling issue can be fixed by using nerf-football-style rounds, the ones with fins on the back that made the ball spin even when you couldn't throw it right. A longer round of that style, say 3 inches by no more than 5/16 wide, fired at 500 feet per second would be really accurate.

[@differentbutsimilar7893]

Oooo, sabot coilgun. I like. Hmmm... can the unreleased wings be used to build spin in the barrel by giving them opposing charges?

[@andyvitale6071]

In the future this weapon will be more accurate and extremely dangerous if you're on the receiving end. Then it probably will get banned due to its being so quiet.

[@wesleysmith187]

I think the biggest improvement would be a robot voice that says things like "ammunition depleted"

[@Xenomorthian]

"Double whammy"

[@bwusa]

Then swap to your trusty crowbar

[@seether5000]

@J Cal just have it Bluetooth to your earpiece. No need for them to hear a damn thing. You could even program it to have a countdown for every bullet.

[@isaiahsaavedra6242]

half life type beat

[@kpsiex]

@J Cal so have a setting to turn the voice off

[@yoitired]

Man this video is going to be in historic archives for thousands of years if we make it that long.

[@infernaldaedra]

As long as we can continue to make new and innovative ways to delete people we'll definitely make it that long lol.

[@Klaaism]

Ian's grandchild will be making videos about this weapon.

[@lampreyjaws1736]

primate man inspects a crude, homemade predecessor to the ancient coilgun gun, circa 2022

[@survivalinthezombieapocaly2142]

@@Klaaism Maybe, maybe. Look here: ! New: Apocalypse Coilgun, Fallout Coilgun kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWqQm36Nhd6AfNE See also: Portable Super Coilgun: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJTPfaaHbtOsm8k&feature=youtu.be kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y57NdaSmlNSKkM0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j32yiqupptudrZI kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHbVoptmebSSiZI kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXesgmammKuNprc

[@DroppingBombs4ever]

Making that an air gun / rail gun hybrid would make that weapon more lethal

[@jasonbutler7054]

Nice thanks for the break down on this weapon. It still needs to go along way to match up with a conventional firearms, however its clearly going to be the future. I feel it lacks muzzle velocity but once this is conquered I can see this weapon having a lethal and non lethal switch depending on the situation.

[@vostok8589]

I'm considering either this or a phased plasma rifle in the 40W range for home defense

[@VallornDeathblade]

"I use a railgun for home defense since that's what the founding fathers intended"

[@Greeev]

I'd go with the plasma rifle personally. More stopping power.

[@Pheonixco]

@@Greeev did you consider the gooey mess you have to clean up?

[@alcoholic9496]

WRONG

[@Greeev]

@@Pheonixco if by that you mean the lack of identifiable remains/evidence, yes.

[@geoplane3799]

This is essentially the matchlock musket of coilguns, an piss-poor start but with lots of future potential. I'd love to see the potential future designs

[@Dagrizzb]

(Within)100 years till proper coil gun. My guess.

[@omnialive]

Greater velocity and drum mag!

[@son_of_stan]

If they made a coil gun with a back pack battery that might be enough to make them lethal, the back pack would be bulky but the silence of the weapon would make it really good for stealth operations.

[@creedstump0662]

@@Dagrizzb i’d give it 20 years tops. we probably already have the technology to make a proper coil gun. humans have greater knowledge and technology than we did back when the first firearms came out, so it shouldn’t take as long to start inventing a viable coil gun

[@ratheonhudson3311]

Exactly

[@rognvaldrasbjrn3972]

So this is a less than lethal railgun. It is technically not a firearm. It's an appliance. A cordless tool. A Daisy - battery included.

[@Mr.Z1989]

Being armed in future in a nut shell: I bought some bits for my screwdriver... "ATF wants to know your location".

[@WhenToastersAttack]

This thing’s like a predecessor to a weapon my dad made up for an old sci-fi tabletop rpg he and some friends made. It was this but smaller with a super high fire rate, with a hose running from a backpack carrying thousands a lil ball bearings. It was meant to disable control panels and stuff inside ships and didn’t do much damage to enemies.

[@DFX2KX]

an interesting thing to note is that a penumatic gun exists that uses 6mm bearings for that very purpose, breaking car windows or the like without being lethal. So your Dad was definately onto something there. using a backpack allows for much larger batteries, too.

[@MaartenBroekman]

Flip the magazine (or add a top port) and let gravity feed improvised ammo into the gun on full auto.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

@@DFX2KX that's really just an airsoft gun firing ball bearings

[@77Avadon77]

Plasma rifle is even cooler!

[@LuxTheSlav]

@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Also knows as a BB gun...

[@enderbirds3814]

I still remember 10 years ago people said something like this would never be hand held, practical, nor commercially available, with actual military use a pipe dream confined to science fiction. That was only ten years ago and we already have something they said couldn’t be done, I can’t wait to see what this will be capable of in 20 years

[@LegendStormcrow]

Half of what you said still isn't applicable to this. It's not practical or anywhere near being useable as an infantry weapon. Still, maybe in 15-30 years.... Maybe?

[@thomaskitlica5572]

Not really bud not enough power to be useful for anything !!!

[@bureaucratbayonet]

It sounded like a bb gun ringing off that steel

[@chocoman45]

@@LegendStormcrow I've seen a a hobbyist here on youtube make his own gauss rifle with reasonable power. Problem is by the third round the barrel e.g the rails and the magnets, melt.

[@roboflex3162]

mass effect guns

[@indisplutably]

What I find most interesting about these is that they have the potential to obviate nitrogen production as it relates to the defense sector.

[@kovona]

Are we running out of nitrogen?

[@indisplutably]

@@kovona Of course not. But it'll be interesting to see a future where defense contractors aren't making an ROI in the tens of thousands of percent for selling what is effectively really compressed air. Also, it'd mean all that nitrogen in the defense budget would go to agriculture instead, lowering food costs and home gardening costs to some extent.

[@azzanine1710]

Umm... they would have to invest the savings into acquiring the lithium and other metals relating to electronics.

[@applepieexplosion4030]

Powered by a drill battery and firing drill bits. DEWALT GET ON THIS

[@alexdemoya2119]

Between the drill battery and the drill bit projectiles this feels like a weapon made for Tim "The Toolman" Taylor in that god awful Home Improvement video game

[@crunkn8tr]

Hell, it's like something he built in a fever dream of a weekend

[@Aperson156]

Imagine the last thing you hear before getting capped by a coil gun being Tim's weird "EEEEUUUGHHHHHH".

[@richardhall6034]

But his wife was hot 🔥

[@survivalinthezombieapocaly2142]

Yes of course. Maybe, maybe. See also: New! Apocalypse Coilgun, Fallout Coilgun kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWqQm36Nhd6AfNGH

[@magnus0017]

You've heard of the Mozambique drill firing technique? Well, now we have access to the Phillips, the Flathead, the Hex, and the Proprietary Bit Without a Standardized Name. And, if you're more the homemade ammo type, the Chopped Up Ikea Wrench Bits.

[@calvinwills3105]

"Everyone knows a ruggar can't fire without a clip!" *BANG*

[@marcelergun2349]

"Does it take Glock mags?" will be replaced by "Does it take Bosch Batts?"

[@AJStrebeck]

Ian's little chuckle at the end is awesome. That being said though, while I know traditional firearms can explode if you do something dumb, I have seen big capacitors explode after literally no provocation (I was trying to clean up the aftermath of a capacitor failure in a big VFD just a couple of weeks ago) and I would be REALLY uncomfortable with having a big one like that inches from my face.

[@iant2064]

That's the first thing I thought of. If that thing pops, at the very least you're going to lose your hearing.

[@Matthiasflint]

Ohh yeah, that bad boy pops and it's gonna be bad. I've also seen a good many videos of traditional magazines just exploding because of a very rare fault. High-density energy storage is dangerous, especially when you want to use a lot of it at once. It's just SO cool though!

[@juansolo1617]

Good thing I'd rather just have a PCP air rifle than this thing... any day of the week.

[@NerdGlassGamingPA]

FUSE, but then again with contemporary guns you literally have EXPLOSIONS near your face ... so .. yeah :D

[@Isgolo]

You should feel it swell in time to drop it and run before it blows. Still, that plus the possibility of some wires coming loose and shocking you... I don't like it at all tbh, big capacitors are scary

[@johnm.madiganjr.2796]

Ian I would suggest ArcFlash Labs include a large magnet on a stick ( like the ones roofer use to collect nails on the ground ) . You can then collect all your spent rounds and reload the magazines! 🤠👍

[@thomasn8759]

And in unlikely but possible event of a capacitor rupturing, we went from a boom in front of you, to your shoulder internals meeting fresh air...

[@Guardian2A]

20th century: “I’ll never trust an auto loader theres no way it’ll be reliable.” 21st century:”I’ll never trust a battery powered gun its to reliant on ext power.”

[@augustuslunasol10thapostle]

Auto loaders are still pretty sus on tanks but it sure is better to have a extra tank crew for every 3-4 autoloader tank crews as compared to manual

[@WindHaze10]

22th century: "I'll never trust a gun powered by biologically engineered mechanical pistol shrimp pneumatic mechanism"

[@JoeBlobA]

Couldn’t an EMP be an issue without some some sort of faraday cage around the thing?

[@normanmccollum6082]

A bit more like... Mid-19th Century: "I'll never trust an auto-loader, they get gummed up too easily and are not reliable." (Before smokeless powder was invented) Late-19th Century: "I'll never trust a machine gun, it's just not feasible to provide that much ammunition to just one firearm and it's too wasteful." Early-20th Century: "I'll never trust a gas operated firearm with a gas porn in the barrel, it obviously will reduce velocity, energy, and accuracy." Mid-20th Century: "I'll never trust sub-.30 cal ammunition, it is not sufficiently lethal." Late-20th Century: ... people still arguing about 'unreliable' AR vs 'inaccurate' AK, and 'weak' 9mm vs 'slow' .45... Early-21st Century: "I'll never trust a battery-powered gun, it's too reliant on external power..." And people are still arguing about AR vs AK and 9mm vs .45.

[@NoNameAtAll2]

too*

[@jeffboy2825]

I really like the look of this, it is so cool to see development of things you thought you would only see in science fiction

[@Embassy_of_Jupiter]

We're on the express lane to the cyberpunk dystopia of our dreams

[@alericantonelli4656]

@@Embassy_of_Jupiter you mean nightmares?

[@termitreter6545]

Its still science fiction. Not nearly a usable weapon and I dont see any improvement of that in the foreseeable future. US Navy already created a large version of an electromagnetic gun... and it kinda sucks. Big, impractical and not much effect.

[@jayhom5385]

@@termitreter6545 I still wouldn't want to be hit by it if I was just wearing a bandoleer, a mohawk and wielding a baseball bat.

[@termitreter6545]

@@jayhom5385 But you wouldnt mind getting hit if you had a thick leather jacket too ;)

[@icesharkk6399]

makes sense. muzzel velocity would be dependant on the cycling of the coils in series. that is determined by the circuit configuration independant of the mass of the projectile. i would expect that outside the mass tolerances for the coilgun the projectile will just fail to accelerate because the second coil cycles before the projectile has had enough time to be moved by the magnetic force from the first coil.

[@coffeemaiden7915]

This feels as what the musket was in its time, the relatively primitive beginning of a new era.

[@somewherelse]

The neat thing about this is that after you're done shooting you can walk up to the Target and throw down one of those magnets that magnet fishing people use and pick up all of your ammunition

[@andrewgillis3073]

My thoughts exactly. And no more lead exposure at the range...

[@BigSwede7403]

@@Noxis07 Easy eyeball scan should sort that. Anything that looks too damaged you just dump, what looks fine will probably be fine to launch. Remember, no pressure or barrel dimensions to worry too much about. And steel projectiles tend to be more resilient than lead-copper variants.

[@gamecubekingdevon3]

@@Noxis07 you can still approximately re-grind them to the right shape. since there's no direct contact beetween projectile and a barrel, the shape doesn't need to be as exact and perfect as on a firearm

[@ToastyMozart]

Just like the post-nerf-battle dart hunts of old.

[@skullkid692]

You must be from California to take "lead exposure at the range" as a serious concern.

[@N.I.S.C]

firing flechettes or caseless bullets would be great, i hope they develop this further.

[@dantesabbath2107]

Honestly the fact that this version of the emg can have that fast of an rpm is insane. The future is now old man.

[@speedythree]

Ian (or anyone who owns one of these) should invest in a magnetic ground-sweeper; that way they could reuse the projectiles (rather than having to reload the spent cases!)

[@JosephHarner]

Fortunately dowel pins are stupid cheap. Probably only worth the effort to collect them if you're firing hundreds or thousands.

[@thehoodedteddy1335]

Unless it hits something and deforms

[@danielburgess7785]

Always a good idea to keep your range as tidy as possible.

[@corombb]

@@lucasblanchard47 I think their point was that magnet sweeping for coilgun projectiles is the closest recycling equivalent of brass reloading for firearms, not that you'd have to reload cases for this.

[@danielburgess7785]

@@lucasblanchard47 Thank Buddha it doesn't use lead. See, another aspect of a weapon transitioning from the status quo.

[@sambassmanstoner]

I get the vibe that this thing is about, where 3D printing was 6 or 7 years ago. Functional and useable by the general consumer, but a bit clunkier and with less "polish" than a mass-market product. That's not at all a knock on it either. These things take time and they are clearly approaching their goals.

[@ZacLowing]

Yeah, I saw the flaws too, but then I imagine a team working on different bits and just getting to a point where it works for a proof of concept. I'm sure they have better versions going now and in their heads.

[@krissteel4074]

There's quite a lot of progress towards usability too which is good to see. Just sort of got to figure out a way of finding an ammo that doesn't keyhole as much, I wasn't hugely impressed with the Mk1 but they're getting there

[@CHMichael]

Should have recruited a high-school-er to do the modeling .

[@feloniusduck183]

ELECTRIC GUNS CANT BEAT A BIG BLOK CHEVY

[@sechran]

I'm just afraid that some of the fundamental limitations (can't rifle the barrel 'cause that's not how the barrel works, etc) will curtail the potential on the design as a whole.

[@aeproducedbyequiano2216]

15-18 Joule approximately, so yeah, it will penetrate bare skin and hurt A LOT

[@RONIN_SATS]

It is cool to see the progression of this tech.

[@panickingstrumpet6881]

I love how the only actual sound it makes is a light clicking from the trigger being pulled. Kinda freaky to think that it can get such good speeds while barely making any sound.

[@JohnnyShagbot]

If they were ever to get to a point where the projectiles are supersonic like normal bullets, I'm sure it'd be a fair bit louder, but yeah it's cool how it just ticks at you like a sewing machine.

[@Hirosjimma]

there's also a strong solenoid pushing the projectile into the first accelerator coil. The clicking you hear is the solenoid activating, not the trigger.

[@keithm5378]

I don't claim to be a clairvoyant, but I could imagine the 2030s, 2040s, 2050s when we have batteries that are powerful enough to deliver serious kinetic energy out of a railgun or a coilgun? (I'm not talking .22LR energy, I'm talking scary levels of energy, enough to impale someone into a wall or a tree with metal rods like the flechette artillery rounds from Vietnam). Don't get me wrong, the Arcflash rifles are cool as hell, and are very promising first steps towards man portable coilguns, so I'm not bashing them. But their "stopping power" is limited. I think once they become more powerful, smaller and advanced as battery tech advances (hydrogen cells, beta radiation batteries like Americium batteries, solid state batteries, etc)? The first military units who will adopt them will be special forces/SF guys. Think about it. You could have a railgun/coilgun that fires a bullet the size and weight of a 7.62x39mm bullet, and delivers similar kinetic energy. But the magazines will only have to be as long as handgun magazines because there's no need for a case, just the bullet. You could carry far more rounds that deliver similar energy, and you have a rifle that is almost completely silent, requires less maintenance (no carbon fowling in the barrel or gas systems, because there's no combustion!), you could theoretically make your own ammo in the field if you had to, and for the purposes of clandestine operations? You leave little ballistic trace. No gunshot residue, no casings, no sign that a gunfight even occurred, all your enemy sees after you leave is a bunch of dead guys and strange 7.62mm bullets they've never seen before, or if you're using metal rods? A couple of dead dudes who've been impaled into a wall or a bed. It could be an ideal special forces weapon for those reasons, plus the one you mentioned. It will likely be quieter than any suppressed combustion firearm (other than subsonic .22s) and has the potential to be far more powerful.

[@yepp54]

If the make these powerful enough to stay just under the sound barrier(1080fps I believe) these thing will be scary

[@Pavlos_Charalambous]

@@keithm5378 i can imagine similar weapons being used on vehicle mounted mode taking energy from the vehicle it self, like a minigun for example In such a configuration for example it won't need the battery and it won't really need to be that accurate either taking to account the amount o projectiles it can produce 😁

[@thepersonwhocomentz]

That's quite the improvement for such a short length of time. The design is definitely sleeker, and I'm left stunned at the improvement in recharge rate, though I do have some safety concerns about the capacitor being seated right next to the shooter's chest, as much as it makes sense engineering-wise. I would suppose it's okay for a civilian product, though. It's really nice how much more "weaponlike" the form factor has become now, too. An actually usable handguard might arguably be this revision's biggest improvement, and the battery being seated at the bottom of the pistol grip seems like an excellent way to balance the weight distribution (the genius decision to incorporate cordless drill batteries aside). Ace Hardware is going to wonder where the hell these gun nuts suddenly buying up all their screwheads, drill bits, and dowel pins all suddenly started coming from. C'mon, DARPA. You just *know* you want to dump a billion dollars on these guys.

[@tomfeng5645]

Some sort of cage+venting structure should allow for preventing physical damage to the capacitor and containing any fragmentation from a burst capacitor while also not allowing pressure to build up into a bomb. Still, I bet the thing is heavy enough as-is, although a polymer structure probably isn't that heavy anyways. It could also make a more ergonomic/adjustable stock too, or have storage etc available.

[@eloiseharbeson2483]

Well, it's not like the capacitor on a radar transmitter charged up to lethal voltages. 60v stings but that's about it. The drill battery prevents the cap from being charged in reverse.

[@viriatrix9874]

@@eloiseharbeson2483 more than the shock, is about the explosion if it gets damaged by any bump, even a small capacitor gets propelled when exploding and it can poke an eye out, pretty sure they will adress that in the future tho.

[@alexb7641]

@@viriatrix9874 this, I remember blowing up capacitors in electronics class, when this one goes I wouldn't want my face there.

[@vogelfreiinderwuste4770]

Let's keep anything federal government related the Hell away from this stuff.

[@de0509]

Wonder if they can make it bullpup. Surely with electromagnetic guns, it will have none of the cons usually associated with bullpups? Then they can make the bore go from the back to the front see if that added distance can translate into performance

[@frankmckenneth9254]

Ngl having a supercap right at the shoulder is terrifying.

[@xtamared]

It's actually not a supercap. It's electrolytic. Supercapacitors are very low voltage and have high ESR so they're not practical for energy weapons.

[@TheWirksworthGunroom]

Being able to pick up the spent rounds with a magnet is somewhat helpful on the range!

[@taldarsin]

That was my first thought as well, all that ammunition is reusable if recovered and simply wiped off.

[@Wolfshead009]

I would love to see what the "rounds" look like after hitting the steel plate. I would image that the ones on the paper target would be reusable, just difficult to find.

[@Pawfunia]

Well this gun has something good compared to standard rifles. Weight and ammo that weight less. The only thing is battery...

[@barto6577]

@@Wolfshead009 Look up 52100 steel. It's what most dowel pins and berings are made of.

[@Blorkus]

I love how common that type of screen is getting - I have several exactly like it in some projects. Fun fact, they don't play nice with cameras because only one pixel is lit at any given moment, it just scans really fast. Your shutter has to be open for at least ~16ms (1/60th) to capture the whole image.

[@JBloodthorn]

Do you have a preferred source for them? I've seen a lot of sketchy looking offerings.

[@Blorkus]

@@JBloodthorn Unfortunately no, all of mine have been kinda weird ;) Banggood seems to have some less sketch ones, but then again it is banggood lol

[@ogi22]

That's why the screen was visible indoors, where it was darker. In the bright sun the shutter was much faster and we could see just one line. :D

[@vraciunaitro]

The only sound it makes is on impact so the gun would be great with tranq darts that are not fully metallic like something light but dense.Also smaller rounds and higher capacity magazines and replace the trigger with a fingerprint button with lower delay on press since it has no recoil.Just my 2cents , nice video ! :)

[@robertjiffers1468]

You could probably walk around NYC with that gun and people would probably assume you had a toy and doing cosplay.

[@vinnyganzano1930]

Fascinating to see weapons like this starting to get almost practical.

[@idontcare-ct7jm]

It literally fires at a velocity lower than a Red Ryder BB-gun, so I wouldn't say "almost practical" quite yet lol

[@Betrix5060]

Yes but it’s potentially several hundred times the projectile mass so that changes things.

[@nickjonathan4043]

@@idontcare-ct7jm clearly just a proof of concept. with a military budget I can easily see how this could be made into an incredibly powerful weapon.

[@sexkrazedpanda]

Plus it just using a dowl pin. Imagine making a vaned flechette round for this. All you need is ferris metal and I'm sure someone could mill someone that flies more accurately and has better penetration.

[@FreebirthBoccara]

no where near practical. airsoft guns literteally hit harder. its shooting a 9 gram bullet at 71m/s thats less than one joul of kinetic energy. a .22 is about 170 joules. for referenc.e high power airsoft guns can easily get into 2-3 joules of energy if using the heavier .3g or .4g bb's

[@xyrus85]

After having worked with capacitors and seeing them explode, I get an eerie feeling with a capacitor this size held to the shoulder.

[@DoubleMonoLR]

That was my thought too, potentially considerably more dangerous than what's coming out the other end.

[@baconsarny-geddon8298]

Yeah, that makes me nervous as hell. I like the gun, but I'd be very wary of it, when that capacitor is charged.

[@CGrahamWorks]

Personally I would consider a small backpack and a wiring, being able to place the capacitor in an armored box

[@jamesthomas6234]

Wait till you hear about how cartridges in traditional firearms can explode

[@delfinenteddyson9865]

@@jamesthomas6234 they tend to be not that close to your face, I believe

[@ragetist]

Now all we need is an underslung launcher for 10mm sockets

[@arranshirovay4064]

I smell a zombie movie, we're not looking for twinkies though...we're looking for Milwaukee batteries 😆

[@survivalinthezombieapocaly2142]

!Coilgun and Survival in the Zombie Apocalypse (Step by step assembly of Coil Gun from 01:57) kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWq6hpZ9rNKGa9U

[@jackmcslay]

One thing about having a single larger capacitor at the back is that it makes it easier to maintain but also vastly more dangerous in the case of a catastrophic failure. If one capacitor blows up at the front you might have to go to the hospital to fix your hand but probably won't have lasting injuries, if one huge capacitor blows up right next to your face that's a mortal danger. Hopefully by the time they release it they will have compiled a set of procedures to inspect the capacitor.

[@shinigami117s8]

I couldn’t agree more. I work with those things often. It should have a blast exhaust port to prevent a pipe bomb situation, large capacitors have a overpressure port usually. But if it’s enclosed it won’t be good.

[@merseyviking]

Agreed. But the software could monitor the capacitor and calculate its ESR, then warn the user and disable charging if it gets too high. It won't catch all catastrophes, but that is the usual indicator of a failing cap.

[@Kevin-mx1vi]

In fact it comes with a five-year guarantee that if the capacitor fails they'll send you a new one free of charge, *and* they'll also send a team to help find your head ! 😁

[@thehoodedteddy1335]

@@Kevin-mx1vi what’s left of it anyway

[@thehoodedteddy1335]

Reminds me of those self contained reloading muskets he showcased before, which you revolved a lever to reload the powder and the shot, but had all the gunpowder stored in the stock, so if it wasn’t absolutely perfectly machined it would basically explode

[@KagoK]

I love how almost every part is just hobbyist grade stuff, excluding the massive capacitor, which a hobbyist could probably still find

[@shivdag]

I think that's a car audio capacitor, they're pretty cheap and easy to find too

[@kriswingert1662]

@@shivdag It is. probably 63000uf.

[@howlingwolven]

You can buy them off Digikey.

[@viermidebutura]

@@kriswingert1662 from the size of it i guess is more than 100000uf

[@acardenasjr1340]

Or build one

[@andy347]

You have the drill bit in backwards - You want the center of mass of the projectile more towards the front. How a bottle rocket and arrow stay stable. You should try gluing a cylindrical piece of plastic to the back of a steel plug and see how much more accurate it is. It would almost certainly keep it from tumbling and would increase the range then too.

[@nickthekilla124357]

i love how you can see the projectile in flashes on the video its so slow very cool idea though

[@Xeonerable]

LMAO Ian's reaction to firing it in full auto was amazing, it was ridiculous and cool at the same time.

[@DeadeyeJim327]

Putting a cheek weld on that capacitor kinda scares me. I still want one.

[@murphy7801]

Yeah absolutely terrified to use that

[@lucky43113]

@@murphy7801 Quit being scared

[@goofy851]

@@lucky43113 Since a capacitor that size could easily decapitate you if it were to explode since they completely blocked the pressure release point, you should be scared.