Worship Tech Tour | TC3 Church

[@prettysimplemusic]

These Churchfront Tech Tours, are my new “Netflix & Chill”… well… maybe not the “chill” 🤣, but definitely my “Netflix”!!! #Christian + #Techie

[@ardbegthequestion]

And this exvangelcal’s (and ex mega-church prod staffer) secret nostalgia channel.

[@prettysimplemusic]

@@ardbegthequestion bwahahaha!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@magezielijah5764]

Ya man even if it's 2 hours I can watch

[@MiguelReyes-sx1vs]

Bro this guy right here is a genius... I love the fact that he focuses on savings and not buying the latest and greatest even though their tech is very high end but one major, major, major take away for me in this video is that converter box that you can load your own LUT to it... he don't know this but he just saved me THOUSANDS of dollars with our plan to switching all the cameras to the same brand WOW... Now we can allocate that money to upgrading other things!!!! Praise JESUS!!!!!!!!!

[@GaricsPeter]

We have those converters. Keep in mind that enabling the LUT adds latency.

[@danielferentzy527]

@@GaricsPeter The latency it produces is extremely negligible in our environment, but you are correct!

[@danielferentzy527]

Miguel, if you need to, you can modify and color match in your preferred video editing software (we use Adobe Premiere) and export the LUT from there to load onto the box. That's how we accomplished color matching our drum cam to our other cameras which are Blackmagic Pocket Cinema's. Record test footage flat and then color match to a cam's footage you want to match.

[@MiguelReyes-sx1vs]

@@danielferentzy527 I edit and color grade in Davinci thats what I use to create the LUTs for our pocket 4K.. Thank you for the help 🙏🏽

[@josua2517]

@Miguel Reyers BM microconverters do lots too and are cheaper.

[@arpadjszabo]

Great video. It would be great to see small church tech tours as well.

[@KyleThurmanMusic]

Wow, Andy Curtis really is a star

[@andycurtis1010]

CARLLLLL!

[@KyleThurmanMusic]

@@andycurtis1010 🤣 its time for me to come hear those 12 dual 18s!

[@jahavl3067]

Great church, great video! 😎

[@BenSalzmann]

"This is thousands of dollars cheaper than a Nord" *points to two 15" macbook pros, a midi controller, and VST software valued at over $5,000

[@mrbkeyz_]

Haha thisss

[@connorkeeley6811]

Hey man! That's a great point! Just to shed some light on the set-up. The Macbook that runs Ableton is the MD's personal computer, and the MacBook running MainStage and Keyscapes is an old 2015 that has been recycled through the staff and repurposed for our keys rig. Thanks for the comment!

[@carltontriplett4947]

@@connorkeeley6811 thanks for the context!!

[@prettysimplemusic]

@@connorkeeley6811 wussup bro!!! Are you the keys player????

[@guitardude6464]

@@connorkeeley6811 one MacBook. One round

[@derekwongatinfiledleddispl7915]

This is really good touring video;)

[@josiahdavidmiller]

That frequency hiss drove me nuts

[@eflizotte]

Check out using a midi trigger in Ableton running into your waves server to fire the snapshots for changing tuning

[@kevlewins]

Wow, amazing setup. He kept saying simple, looks far far above simple and low budget. I imagine the total replacement cost would be huge. Do appreciate the tour.

[@thefantasticmro3619]

I’m amazed, they are running Soundgrid and Dante protocols. They have a strong network. 😊

[@tc3.church]

We'd love for you to elaborate on this comment? If we're doing something wrong we'd appreciate the help. Thanks so much!

[@colbyhodges]

@@tc3.church What motor controls are being used on the manned cameras?

[@danielferentzy527]

@@colbyhodges PDMovie Remote Live 3 (PDLFZV2)

[@AaronJCourtney]

@@tc3.church nothing wrong at all. We do the same thing. That's the entire point of the Hear Tech WSG Dante Bridge that was created back in 2018.

[@marcthom]

Thanks for this, got so many ideas from this!

[@kodzugofficial1250]

Thanks Jake .. I love tech tours keep that its so helpful

[@timothy._.wilcox]

Jesus image church tech tour? they have an amazing mix and cam setup

[@aaronvinyard]

9:40 if you are going to run with two screws in a unit, please put them in the bottom locations. Leverage.

[@BenSalzmann]

typical practice is top corner/bottom opposite corner if you only have 2.

[@aeiplanner]

@@BenSalzmann maybe for a 1U

[@Samualwallow]

How are you setting up the hand controls on that camera in the back? Looks like a Pdmovie motor, for focus, but what hand units are connected to it?

[@peterfast6451]

I'd like to know that, too.

[@pealock]

10:30 when you went around the back, that was pretty rough! it looks like a temporary stage box placement but still, that rats nest is scary! I would HATE to have to figure out which lines are going to the different inputs and outputs.

[@prettysimplemusic]

We’re twins!!! I was thinking the EXACT same thing, but… well… I’m not trying to point out the negative. Cleanliness = Godliness 🤣🤣🤣

[@jpruhu7662]

Agreed. Clean runs are key. But a lot of great solutions overall.

[@aliciaesque692]

Wish I knew y’all were in town! Andy is a cool guy. They’re always willing to share what they do with other churches in the area. :)

[@d1worship218]

FANTASTIC video guys! Thank you for all the great ideas!

[@brentl2250]

For the Midas DL231. How is having independent gain control with this unit different than an M32 configured with dedicated ( but separate) buses for livestream etc? Thanks

[@westongrilloruns]

What focus and zoom control system is that?

[@MichaelGarcia03]

sovereign grace tech tour plzzzzzz

[@mindscapeeventsnamibia8539]

Please share Any links or contacts for JAAH Audio - Company

[@jeremymontecillo1]

Good day church front, can you visit our local church here in the Philippines, i just thought that it may interest to see the gears of a 180sqm Church. Thank you and Godbless

[@maizesoft]

what's wrong with the focus, is it a lumix camera?

[@DrRusty5]

With expensive technology, comes great responsibility. Unity looks amazing, but the pricing model seems to be a minefield 😓. I'm still very tempted to try it at some point.

[@theswaan]

That snare drum mic placement is scary!

[@sfcnetworkministries]

what the size of the screen on the stage

[@uncajesse]

some Soundcraft mixers allow separate control over the gain, from multiple consoles, with a single preamp. As long as FOH or whoever has the actual gain control isn't clipping things, it works just as well as dual pre-amps.

[@HunterShawMusic]

Digital trim is very different than dual headamp controls, especially with a colorful pre like MIDAS PRO.

[@rafaeloliveira-vp5lj]

Simplesmente sensacional! Um dia as Igrejas no Brasil terá algo assim. 2 Pro X Midas? OMG!!!!!!

[@juanlucas2001]

Acredito que nunca hahaha até mesmo as maiores igrejas do Brasil não tem nem a metade da estrutura!

[@magezielijah5764]

Thank you Jake for this ✨✨✨ am blown away

[@austinfarley4971]

This was great, but please tell them to air dust their stage box!

[@alexcooper6481]

Keyscape is actually around $400 ($379), and Omnisphere is over $500 with tax. But still far less expensive than a hardware keyboard, and just as incredible sounding!

[@prettysimplemusic]

He said MainStage was $100 😳😳😳 Only $39 and yup, Nord sounds don’t stand a chance compared to Omnisphere + Keyscape.

[@izayadecomposer]

Which Software does the PD use for organizing the service?

[@danielferentzy527]

Planning Center Services!

[@ToddJCrane]

Those flight cases holding the amplifiers are overloaded and warping. It's driving me nuts

[@SerenRogue]

i will say this regarding the Shure SLX D stuff when I was hunting new wireless I was turned to the New Senneiser EW-D, they claimed the are better than the SLX D and cheaper (atleast for me in NZ) it is a stripped down from there pro line of the digital 6000 and 8000 range so far I love the EWD for my acoustic and 945 capsuled mic.

[@Benjithz]

i wanne learn more about the projectors and laptops i use a laptop i wanne use a mac book but i dont have the money

[@isaacfernandez4507]

What material is their flooring?

[@ShottaRiq]

35:43 Saving my spot

[@BradK02]

Cheap is relative in this video 😂. Or the Pastor was given the wrong prices. What an awesome setup.

[@aeiplanner]

That’s why you don’t let your worship pastor do a tech tour.

[@danielferentzy527]

??

[@aeiplanner]

@@danielferentzy527 Let the worship pastor be the worship pastor. And it’s very evident that his knowledge is very limited and mostly hearsay. He seems to be the jack of all trades at this church, which is fine, but the case he makes for the way they do things is uncompelling, as he is unable to articulate with any level of confidence, the specific technological advantages of one piece of gear over another. Even an amateur knows that modern digital consoles all operate at 96k. It’s like buzzword he adopted and now uses. When you couple that with his “live room” assertion, the whole 96k discussion goes out the window. You can hardly hear the difference between 44.1 and 96, never mind in a terrible acoustical environment. Tbh, you guys should share a link to Luke Henderson’s video with him. Might learn something.

[@StanMan21089]

What headsets are you using for the Unity? I am starting the 14 day free trial and trying to figure out what to use to keep background noise to a minimum.

[@danielferentzy527]

We use the headsets Unity Intercom sells, single and double-sided depending on the position. Our roaming camera volunteers use their own AirPods, or equivalent wireless headphone.

[@StanMan21089]

@@danielferentzy527 can you also show what volume and ducking settings you’re using to help keep the 90+ decibel background noise to a minimum?

[@jordancaldwell1086]

For the keyboard rig, what type of stands are they using for their Macs?

[@danielferentzy527]

Quik Lok Music Stand (LPH-004)

[@jordancaldwell1086]

@@danielferentzy527 Thanks!

[@guitardude6464]

I think…The Stand by Hillsong United

[@jordancaldwell1086]

@@guitardude6464 that’s not a comment KZbin deserves but it needs.

[@budgetguitarist]

Hackintosh Computers scare me (and I'm a computer guy). Setting it up correctly requires a super nerd. When you have issues, you won't know if it's a legit software issue or something related to the hacked OS. If you update your OS, you might not be able to boot back up. Every update has to be handled very carefully. If you have issues you need a super nerd to figure them out. You save money but you don't save time.

[@silan2335]

If you have someone in church used to it, then you don't habe much problems. Also nowadays there are many, many good guides online But with M1 the time of Hackintosh will end Over all I hope more and more software will get releases on Linux, since the only reliability of many MacOS-Updates for me has been, that they often generate new problems

[@aeiplanner]

No issues. Have to do a lot of research but once you get it figured out they work just like a real Mac. That bring said, there’s exactly no reason to build one after M1 processor.

[@jgerhart19]

Good thing Dan is a super nerd

[@TimothyFish]

That's only because Apple is stupid. But what can you do? Once you add an Apple product, you have to have the Apple ecosystem to make it work.

[@TheZebhatton]

Anyone know what brand of slider that was on the drums camera?

[@mzcsawmtea]

what kind of they use stage floor?

[@hectordekarla8141]

what is the name of the app that he use to make the intercom?

[@jakebytes602]

It's unity intercom.

[@jamestucker3661]

Does a phone get loud enough to compete with a PA. I would love to try this.

[@levipires3587]

Hi guys! Does anyone know what motorized sliders they use on the FOH camera and the camera behind the drums?

[@andycurtis10]

Its a basic GVM motorized slider. 31 inch. They are set to auto scroll.

[@steakikan]

I dont know if TC3 gotta read this comment but the Sennheiser EW-D series are pretty sick for touring with the bluetooth scan apps (and if needed, it has better latency than SLX-D). Only complain so far is the AF stage is pretty noisy but could be reduced by lowering the AF Output level. OTOH if you are into Workbench then SLXD is cool as it is the cheapest Shure offering with Workbench support afaik.

[@technochurchy]

This is awesome, always learning. Loved the broadcast and video rigs.

[@hardyland2226]

That line array was not custom built for any. Any church can get the same rig. Just so you know!!!! It a nice rig for not alot of money

[@benaspey5172]

Please, no one take any tips on how to build racks from looking at the ones In this video

[@bigguycamping]

Actually hackintosh’s are illegal. It goes against the EULA and therefore it is not licensed for use on non-Apple hardware and that is problematic for a church to be doing that. You can’t purchase MacOS, so that means you have stolen the software. Sorry, but this is a terrible example to set.

[@gideongikeno6721]

I didn't see the bass speakers

[@jahavl3067]

There are ten dual 18" JLA218's in the front of the stage.

[@Heaz_D2S]

Anyone know what there stage is what makes it so shiny?

[@jordanhardison6686]

I believe it is a wood stage with an epoxy top.

[@elmomo617]

how does slider auto working

[@jamesrivera3426]

Your daily reminder that Kanye West is the greatest artist restin or alive. Also, cool tech tour!

[@Drnunya]

Never ever have I seen a snare mic’d like that😢

[@soywise]

1:55 autofocus is better

[@akwesi_khaled]

what wireless video transmission system does TC3 Church use for their roaming cameras?

[@danielferentzy527]

Cinegears Ghost-Eye Wireless HDMI & SDI 150M. Low latency. Got a lot of use out of this model in this application.

[@nicholasjohn1001]

The mic placement on those drums is criminal. That should get you 25 to life.

[@adambehr6919]

Can you please ask them for the specs on their Hackintosh?

[@jessecoonen7881]

Feeling that this guy is a little “out of touch” with some things. “It’s not illegal to make hackintosh. Apple makes that available to do.” No. People have found ways around all the red tape, hence “hack” in the name. I’d love for him to explain his understanding of “96k” audio. 😂

[@eluno949]

Where did mans find Keyscape for $125? 😂

[@jollybrosstudio]

I wish Keycape was $120! LOL try $399!

[@aeiplanner]

Keyscape is overrated. If you want a true realistic piano sound, get your a Kawai EX for $99. Or if all you’re doing is worship and are going for that overcompressed sound, get Sampltank. Even their cheapest Yamaha sampled pianos sounds better than keyscape

[@andycurtis10]

@@aeiplanner appreciate your opinion! We work with those other sounds, too. Keyscapes does a lot more than just a "piano sound". It's incredibly versatile. From both a modification with in the vst standpoint, as well as having/blending a variety of different sounds. We also use Keyscapes with in all of our recording projects. Thanks!

[@aeiplanner]

@@andycurtis10 I'm aware. I feel like a lot of people buy Keyscape/Omnisphere with the expectation that they will be a turnkey solution. Not true!!! I found that despite really sexy marketing, you still have to tweak the sounds to get the shape you want/need. This is even more true for live environment. So by the time you're done with tweaking the sound to match the room, you might as well use sounds that come free with the $30 MainStage. All that aside, the most important piece of advice I'd have for you guys is get the sound you want dialed in, effects and all, and auto-sample it right back into MainStage. That way you don't risk any system overloads while running Keyscape along a bunch of other soft instruments.

[@josiahblanton8291]

Custom PA boxes? really??

[@jordanhardison6686]

Yes, these JLA210's were made specifically for TC3 and are only at TC3.

[@jamestucker3661]

@jordan - what do they do for tech support in 7 years? Will parts be available?

[@jcnash02]

@@jamestucker3661The manufacturer’s office is not far away, so they’ll probably call the owner and get him over there.

[@bdamerow]

Autofocus had other ideas for this tour 😂

[@Churchfront]

Truth

[@darcyduncantech]

That high pitch noise in the video is hurting my ears.

[@jjmagpoc]

abledun.

[@aeiplanner]

The dumbest thing here is that he’s teamviewing a $1000 hackintosh from a couple of real $1200-1800 macbook pros with $30 dongles for Ethernet. He could have easily used some old chrome book with built in Ethernet to run teamviewer.

[@TimothyFish]

Well, if they were were running Windows instead of macOS, they could use NDI and they wouldn't have to pay for the TeamViewer license, but maybe they had a Macbook that they weren't using, so they went that route instead of buying something new.

[@aeiplanner]

@@TimothyFish they built a hackintosh. I don’t think they pay for a commercial version of teamviewer. Frugal is the name of the game here!

[@jordanhardison6686]

They are not using team viewer. They are using Mac screen share. Also, the Mac is not a single purpose mac. It's a brilliant case of using tools you already have to get the job done reliably.

[@aeiplanner]

@@jordanhardison6686 1. Never ever use a single computer to deploy mission critical applications. E.g. if you’re running tracks, ONLY arum tracks. Actually, have a backup running identical tracks in case the first one gets the beach ball. Also, he clearly stated they’re “teamviewing”

[@jordanhardison6686]

@@aeiplanner I find it reasonable to have a computer dedicated to tracks and then a multi purpose / personally owned computer to mac screen share in to the main computer running the tracks. Especially when someone else is present at the Ableton computer and can take over. In a perfect world, sure back up everything.

[@YouStolemyJoke]

I find it hilarious when huge churches say they’re trying really hard to be budget friendly and my whole churches revamp at a new location cost the same as JUST their console. 😅🥲