WORST AK SHOTGUN - Chinese Saiga 12

[@BrandonHerrera]

Thanks for watching guys! As you can tell I’m maybe not that impressed by this shotgun. If there are some other guns you’d like me to do similar breakdowns of, let me know here! Thanks again to Nord for sponsoring this video! Go to nordvpn.com/herrera or use code herrera to get a 2-year plan plus 4 additional months with a huge discount

[@tapeesa2866]

Ak daddy

[@ColonialEagle5455]

Hrandon Bererra

[@EricEVera]

#akgnotificationsquad

[@jtmartin1170]

I’ve got a shitty screw-build I bought before I knew anything about AK’s if ya wanna borrow that and let me know just how big of a mistake I made

[@keithsevcik4374]

try out the sds lynx 12

[@jackhealy3328]

'I would call this gun cancer, but cancer actually kills people.' -Sun Tzu or something, I dunno

[@W11-o2y]

It would get you killed if you used it during a home invasion

[@Linuxabuser888]

@@W11-o2y Time time! My gun is jammed stop the home invasion for a sec would you? Lol

[@MadMax-yq9ix]

Lmao

[@magruder5874]

*Gun Tzu

[@InquisitorJack]

I’ll consider myself lucky that mine seems to work okay and the sights were zeroed fine. I’d love a higher quality AK shotty, or hell a proper AK rifle. I live in MD, our best post-2013 option in 7.62x39 is the VZ58. Which I like, but buying aftermarket parts is hell

[@craigsteinkamp12]

I love that the internet has collectively agreed that low quality recorder sound bits let us know where the video is going.

[@christof2023]

Thanks for the preface on this. I'm dying laughing now 😂😂😂. RIP Africa

[@stefanstoyanov7460]

I've finally lived to see the day Brandon calling an AK trash. Not even cursed krink got this epithet.

[@dudecickle]

That is unfair to Papa Kalashnikov to call that an AK.

[@anthonyhayes1267]

In fairness, cursed krink was salvageable.

[@SlavicCelery]

@@anthonyhayes1267 The krink was a gem hidden behind a lack of skill. This is a whole different story.

[@anthonyhayes1267]

@@SlavicCelery exactly

[@DinnerForkTongue]

It wasn't the Krink's fault, it was an abuse victim! 😭

[@mmerdox3658]

"Tries to chamber the round again after not firing" *not enough social credits*

[@violinwire5007]

Underrated

[@marcodeodorico7618]

very underrated!

[@keithlints2514]

After break in, it works well.

[@keithlints2514]

@Dr Disconect I ouned one, instead of running hundreds of rounds for break in, i worked the action instead. I have picture with 10 rounds in the air, 4 inches apart.

[@musictraining5071]

@Dr Disconect depends on the price i guess. any shotgun is better than no shotgun.

[@turdferguson2863]

"when you miss on the range or at the urinal, step closer" sun tzu

[@X_gang_demigod]

No replies for a good comment!!i need to fix this. I wonder if you're still active?

[@turdferguson2863]

@@X_gang_demigod thanks!

[@alexandrecorona]

The cry’s of “just as gooood” can be heard softly waving over winds

[@hunteraltman4762]

It's not just as good. It's a semi auto on a budget, but saiga 12s in import setup are pretty trash.

[@Arthiem]

@@hunteraltman4762 i like my lynx 12. My telescopic dust cover broke off after 20 shots but for $600 i feel the price to preformance is pretty good.

[@Sam_the_Sham_and_the_Pharoahs]

@@Arthiem You know what's funny, I bought a VR80, kind of just for a shits and giggles semi auto knock around shotgun and I couldn't believe how well it actually stood up to abuse and how well it shot. I really didn't get it for anything serious, more of just a fun gun and I was quite surprised by it. Some things could of been better but for what I paid, I think 550, it was really decent and it didn't even need a break in even though it was new. But I'm thinking about getting a Lynx, they have so many "Saiga" style auto shotguns now, but I don't want to get stuck with a lunker.

[@shanweeboy]

This is a chinese shotgun, not a sav-alot shotgun.

[@hunteraltman4762]

@@Arthiem I recently bought my jts m12ak for $350. If it can fire a ton of rounds I'm not complaining. Mosins cost more than that right now, same for an sks and well they're alright but definitely overpriced right now.

[@slayo710]

Us govt: bans Russian ammo Brandon: fuck I guess we're shooting 12g today.

[@hi4morlock891]

Made in China

[@kavcav]

@@gabrielpollman5133 just wait for the Водкаaaaa Ukrainian ammo that looks and shoots the same lmao

[@Llama_Dhali_G]

9x39

[@grendeldog01ify]

Just bought a JTS AK-12; I oiled the slide, cycled it manually about 50 times. Then I set the gas block on “3” and fired 60 BAT slugs without a single misfire, jam or FTF. Can’t speak for the experience of others, but I really like mine so far. It may have problems with low brass or light loads; I intend to shoot a couple more boxes of hot loads before I step down and test out some birdshot.

[@andrewmccann4267]

I just got this gun and the iron curtain customs mlock handgaurd. How is yours holding up?

[@meanstavrakas1044]

That's because you: TOOK THE TIME TO READ THE MANUAL & CLEAN & OIL THE GUN, unlike the AK Guy.

[@ATruckCampbell]

I took mine down to check everything, turned it to 3 and it sent shells 15 feet up with no issues, I like AK guy but like everyone he is not always right.

[@strykerdevivo]

Mine didn't like bird shot on gas setting 3. Shoots buck shot and slugs all day tho

[@tommcstacker4216]

How did it turn out with birdshot?

[@RenoMay]

Garbage that’s hardly good enough to shoot garbage….

[@joempoem478]

... at garbage.

[@volk4523]

The trash is more expensive in raw materials than that cast hunk of shit is. Glad I have a Vepr-12 (the best AK shotgun, Saiga's seethe).

[@RenoMay]

@1 1 Idk where the 815 is lol

[@ootdega]

Thankfully, Mango White Claw is apparently worse than garbage. Shooting it improves it.

[@crazysilly2914]

@@volk4523 the Fostech Origin-12 is the best AK shotgun

[@Crangaso]

The music for loading and letting it off is perfect, considering it's stellar performance. Raw Dawg all day!

[@christiangreen1477]

Africa on children's instruments was dope

[@FloridaGuns]

I have a Saiga 12, a Vepr 12, and this JTS. Ive run about 1000 rounds through the JTS and it runs perfectly on Walmart Birdshot. Granted the quality is not as good as the Saiga or Vepr but its a solid shotgun for $350 bucks - Just make sure you use the correct gas settings and you're golden

[@kindsteel5]

The Saiga 12 is good. This Saiga 12 is not

[@snapsnap001]

I've got the JTS as well runs like a dream never misfired, or had any problem with the mags.

[@davonbradberry7988]

Exactly!!❤

[@dwightsmith2918]

@@snapsnap001 I like my JTS AR12.

[@tesak_wagner]

​@@kindsteel5 the Vepr is way better than Saiga. It's a little more reliable, has closed sight and can be loaded without holding a bolt with your hand. But the original Russian Saiga is a pure gold in comparison with the Chinese one.

[@AllanPowell]

If it was delance's idea to put in the recorder music, you should give him a raise, and or 1000 rounds of 7.62x39

[@akafxde7245]

Eh maybe like a mag or 2. Can’t exactly get the slavic stuff anymore

[@TheOdst219]

1000 rds of Military Grade Ammo, boy he could buy so much!

[@MrFalloutforlife]

When metro’s version of currency actually becomes an option

[@akafxde7245]

@@TheOdst219 MILITARY GRADE? DO YOU WANT HIM TO BLOW UP!??? (military grade means worse possible)

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@MrFalloutforlife No shit. We need some Metro 2033 memes now.

[@KravenMoorehead674]

I’m not sure which is more disturbing, that rendition of “Africa” or the fact I recognized it within the first 2 seconds.

[@tonyjay617]

I know your pain😂😂

[@jeffrey88888]

I wonder how much he paid Steven from RichRebuilds to play it?

[@timlewis2068]

The latter is definitely more disturbing.

[@weirdeurasianboy8091]

The fact we don't live near each other. I'm sure you and me would be great buddies.

[@richrhocks]

I laughed uncontrollably at the Africa rendition.

[@whodat1967]

Shotguns have three main attributes and you get to choose two for your shotgun: cheap, reliable, and semi auto.

[@jeremiahfyan]

Extremely cheap option: single shots

[@mr.mullet6881]

@@jeremiahfyan but can't really fail

[@jeremiahfyan]

@@mr.mullet6881 pretty much yea

[@bloopbloop5663]

This shotgun chose cheap and reliable it's just not semi auto capable lol

[@Preussenpenner]

@@jeremiahfyan even cheaper option : slamfire shotgun

[@johnkaruza9340]

The JTS M12 AK requires 50-100 rounds for break in. It was a pain but once I got to 70 rounds the issues demonstrated in your video completely disappeared. The owners manual even mentions this break in period. I’ve put several hundred rounds through it and have not had a single issue.

[@young9534]

I took mine apart and cleaned/oiled it really well before even firing a single round. Used some budget 1300 fps shells and never had issues. Even during the break in period

[@MrSERGEANT100]

Break-in period? Firearms have those?

[@MiGujack3]

Any guns that require a break period are garbage. 70 shells, what a waste.

[@waffel7664]

@@MiGujack3 well, it costs about 1/3rd as much so 70 rounds isn't that bad. It works absolutely fine for a range toy, or even something you could use to hunt if you really wanted to. Nobody expects a 250$ semi automatic shotgun to be sufficient for home defense lmao

[@daviddavis2658]

Strangest thing for me. Right out of the box with zero problems. Accurate and never jammed. Almost no recoil either. Ive watched video after video about how garbage this gun is yet mine runs completely fine. Its like ive got an entirely different gun.

[@taberzak7587]

I don’t know if you could have made that malfunction any more sad or hilarious. Thank you so much for that. “It’s supposed to be a rock’n’lock, but you just have to…kinda…*wham* whack it….*mag flop*…I hate this gun.”

wow this sucks, im happy with my Lynx-12, looks almost exactly like a Saiga 12 and never jammed!

[@drowhodis556]

Your channel brings me joy btw

[@arthurmorganlefaye7626]

Isnt the lynx from Planetside 2

[@ClitoridectomyGroyper]

@@arthurmorganlefaye7626 Not the one he's referring to

[@coltonhand4967]

@@krankeefamily7817 best purchase I've made. Lynx 12 rocks. Make sure you clean up the gas chamber tho sometimes they have gunk in them from the factory

[@BrandonHerrera]

They’re much better budget options I think

[@nottelling6598]

When your out-of-the-factory zero is so bad you need a laser sight for your shotgun at 5 yards...

[@RobertSmith-fd7ke]

Bruh I wasn't at that part of the video when I read this and I legit thought u were joking or exaggerating

[@jibb1451]

@@RobertSmith-fd7ke Thats like. . . video game levels of inaccuracy. Impressive.

[@RazorStormInc]

@@jibb1451 The only ammunition used in video games is bootleg Rhodesian jungle with most of the shot missing. GTA5 has a more realistic shotgun effective range than I'm used to.

[@owllymannstein7113]

Why would they zero them for 5 yards at the factory. Don't you understand that if you zero a gun for 50 yards it isn't going to hit the same point of aim at 5 yards?

[@RazorStormInc]

@latex glove Nah, I just played GTA5 for so long that it immediately comes to mind now, specifically when I think of shotguns. It was refreshing, having a shotgun that didn't spray most of the shot in a perfect cone around the target. But, yeah; it lost it's charm the second time it was remastered.

[@esquad5406]

I reviewed this last summer. I shot super X buck noble sport buck and Fed low recoil buck with no issues. It did shoot straight and work right.

[@VodkamanBR]

"The second worst thing that came out of China last year" And that cough before saying it made it an even better roast

[@Have_some_plasma]

@@cycadaacolyte6349 And it started to work numbers last year.

[@Jack_wuz_here1130]

@@cycadaacolyte6349 late 2019 early 2020 so basically just round it up

[@Bustin_cider00]

@@cycadaacolyte6349 you really felt like you were onto something there huh

[@Forg_idk]

Happy I watched this before China takes this down for talking bad about something made by them

[@Anderson_808]

They already own the majority of Hollywood, they will own KZbin eventually. And China's well known for censoring the internet in their own country.

[@MackT]

Hey Brandon, I’ve commented on a few videos trying to reach you. My family home burned down and we lost some guns. The only parts we recovered were AK parts. Could you rehab them and rebuild an AK with them?

[@Anderson_808]

@@MackT you might be more successful trying to reach him at his website. Truly sorry that happened to you and your family that really sucks.

[@liamroarke7991]

Surprised they didn't immediately try to steal the rights to this video.

[@jmace5964]

There gonna make him do an apology video like John cena

[@Limit_Efficient]

I never before heard Brandon yell out of pure rage before. And he’s right

[@OldStickyRice]

I seen other countless other vids on JTS M12AK seems to be a good shotgun, bought one myself ran hundreds of rounds FLAWLESS. Maybe you got a lemon or maybe you didn't set your gas tube to 3 when shooting light loads. Either way my shit runs 100% FLAWLESS. $399 I can dig it

[@brianmgregory857]

Totally agree mine runs flawlessly only problem I have is cycling cheap Winchester bird shot

[@YblonJR]

The cry’s of just as good can be heard loudly on this comment

[@hossman8499]

@@YblonJR Love the boutique gun tards lol. Its like paying more for an Acura than a Honda. Same shit basically.

[@TobaccoRoadAI]

I watched another utube video where the guy cleaned out all the cosmoline in the gas tube and properly re lubricuted the chamber. Seemed to stop the jam

[@ap-mb3sm]

279 $ on PSA . should I buy

[@kemsmith]

You should give it a dishonorable discharge with a .50 BMG

[@michaelcabada2933]

Ak50*

[@solomonkullman1577]

@@michaelcabada2933 what does the AK50 shoot genius.

[@Bramswarr]

@@solomonkullman1577 apparently it shoots the JTS Saiga 12

[@MrHouse-fo1od]

@@solomonkullman1577 I think he means just shoot it with the .50

[@solomonkullman1577]

@@MrHouse-fo1od which is the exact same as what the original poster was saying.

[@zacharyrollick6169]

That is the greatest rendition of Africa by Toto ever.

[@marmedd6312]

I agree

[@Haggart]

Yes definitive Africa by toto

[@markh.6687]

I thought it was some Chinese song he played in honor of the shotgun's heritage.

[@boharris8179]

Love how they cut off ruskey ammo but still import Charlie's guns

[@seamusnolan905]

"charlie" is the wrong slur for Chinese

[@weaponsgradepotato]

@@seamusnolan905 close enough

[@taylorbell3213]

@@seamusnolan905 i mean it starts with a “C” so its not too bad i guess lol

[@DjDolHaus86]

China aren't one good pay day away from invading another country so trade sanctions against them don't make any sense

[@pandresa]

Because the politicians that be, are squarely in china's pocket.

[@JimmieDoolittle3]

Never had an issue with mine......adjust the gas for the intended rounds, after the recommended 25 mag load/high brass break in period. It's by far not to the standards one would expect from a Saiga.....but it's a $400 shotgun, what do you expect.

[@SG-ds8pr]

For it to work.

[@JimmieDoolittle3]

@@SG-ds8pr That's pretty much what I just said.... that it works 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ I followed what was suggested in the owners manual and I have zero issues. I'm sure they have had some lemons (everyone does) but I'm sure just as many have failed to follow directions....and then complained about an issue they created. Ran into that with Tristar Semi's as well, follow the break in and adjustment recommendations and it ran flawlessly.....don't and you have a rather expensive door stop.

[@moistmeatsweats747]

i got mine for 299 and no problem s with it brake it in and its good to go

[@matthewgray259]

Saiga’s have break in issues too

[@ap-mb3sm]

@@moistmeatsweats747 where from? Psa?

[@MillenialWhiteGuy]

“Pistols put holes in people. Rifles put holes through people. Shotguns, the right load at the right range will physically remove a chunk from your opponent and throw it on the floor behind him, and you will have to get someone to come clean it up with a shovel.”

[@harrycallahan9733]

Classic Clint :)

[@cursedhawkins1305]

Entirely depends on the ammunition used, remember that incendiary ammo exists especially for shotguns.

[@MillenialWhiteGuy]

@@cursedhawkins1305 thats why you use the right load

[@nex151]

@@cursedhawkins1305 hence "the right load"

[@ItsCreepin]

@@nex151 something must've been blocking his view of half the comment. 🤣

[@kevinkearney902]

Brandon's custom AK fuckery: "of course I didn't zero the sights soooo gotta give me a pass if I miss" *doesn't miss* Brandons import shitgun: dead on with the sights out of the box... *Miss miss miss*

[@LegoGamer-g7f]

Lots of guns straight out of the box don’t have zeroed in sights that’s why you always zero them.

[@Tripp426]

Ha! "import shitgun". Quite the apt description of this piece.

[@Seph491]

Now we need to see you review the Vepr-12. That thing is like the luxury version of the AK shotguns. No need to adjust gas ports, Krinkov style dust cover on a hinge, bolt hold open, a very solid folding stock, rpk style adjustable sights for slugs, and it's actually made in Russia.

[@РикСанчес-я6з]

Is it Luxury? Here it goes for like 750$ and it isn't even the best price

[@vash_the_stampede6570]

What was the name of the Shotgun Variant of the AK-12 in battlefield 4? Cuz that is what I'm thinking of or the Vepr from cod ghost

[@Seph491]

It’s a luxury when compared to the Saiga 12’s that got imported into the states. The saiga’s all had hunting stocks and no pistol grips. People had to do conversions on them to move the trigger and accept normal AK furniture. Meanwhile the Vepr 12 already is set up without and conversion work out of the box plus it’s built on a beefier RPK receiver. So compared to the state of imported saiga 12s I’d say the Vepr is the luxury model ak shotgun.

[@Seph491]

DBV-12 in Battlefield 4

[@politicalmechanic9501]

I have it and it always jammed. It took a lot of filing and polishing of the bolt and carrier to get it to cycle well. There is another part of the shotgun where the shell ejects that needs to be be filed. There are other videos showing the locations that need modifications. My JTS now cycles both 5 and 10 round mags without a problem

[@panther-nk2hn]

Brandon landed that shell and got mad, and I legitimately thought he was just gonna chuck the gun into the long grass.

[@dr_alto_clef]

Did....i just got rickrolled of your pfp??

[@aribpm]

Never seen this style run reliably without having to be tuned to a specific load. That goes for 30/40 3 Gun matches across several counties and all kinds of money being spent on these things. I can load my 930 with anything and it runs no matter what. No tuning no nothing. It just works like a shotgun should.

[@jmc2491]

Vepr 12 is unmatched

[@gunsodin5299]

Same with my 870 but my 1100 hates paper shells. Between both I prefer my 870 just for the feel and looks, like with the 1100 it feels like I’m holding a broom, very stiff feeling. The 870 is one of my favorite guns but one that’s shot the least sadly.

[@smfoxjr]

My 930 runs like a champ, my 1187 is picky.

[@chunulusbungulo5045]

Jesus people why are you buying Chinese gun. Everything they produce over there is garbage and they have sm@ll dangles.

[@michaelturk7237]

Gonna go full boomer here and say that magazine-fed shotguns are just a bad idea in general. Tube magazine shotguns have worked as a reliable and agile platform for over a century now, and running almost anything rimmed that isn't .22LR out of a mag is just asking for double-feeds and rimlock. Game won't need 10 shells, and armed intruders might need more. Just run a +1 extended tube and side saddle and git gud with tac reloading, or get an actual rifle in an intermediate caliber with a standard capacity detachable magazine. Mating the two is just the worst of both worlds in my opinion.

[@dpower6402]

The montage sounds like a 4th grade music class playing their recorders....thank you for that worse than death memory

[@davidcoleman6211]

The same class designed that abortion of a Firearm.

[@michaeljezierski3154]

Admit it, you downloaded as your ringtone!

[@ProbablyTooLoud]

It's still better than Yoko Ono !

[@michaeljezierski3154]

@@ProbablyTooLoud kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqHQZpJ3fNmVitE

[@MrPers0n30]

no, not more recorder class flashbacks

[@mmelnikov]

First, it's not a Saiga clone, but Vepr. Second, I have one and shot over 200 00 Buck and over 200 bird shots with not a single problem. Maybe you got a lemon or maybe it's ammo-related issues. Mine function flawlessly, as long as I properly adjust gas settings for different shot types. I love it too.

[@DailyCorvid]

Reading through some of the other comments and now this one, I think Bran just got a dud Saiga. So much vocal support for this gun despite it's budget build, which says to me either Bran has a broken gun there; or he's loaded it incorrectly (which seems very unlikely). But it's great to see that most people are happy with it, at the end of the day - if you need a gun you want it to work when it's tasked. It might be missing a birdshot, it might be saving a life. Whatever the scenario you don't want awkward chamber rubix cubes to contend with! So happy to see 90% of people not seeing these issues. Someone should take their working one up to him, and revisit it on another video !

[@keithlints2514]

It's bad ass, and wasn't expensive:) It just needs to be broke in.

[@SchizophenicMongoloid]

It is a Saiga copy with a magwell. Not a VEPR copy.

[@reaperreaper5098]

@@DailyCorvid I've seen other people talking about having the same issues, and the root cause being excessive amounts of cosmoline gumming up the works. Cleaning it out and using actual lubricant is the usual fix.

[@RonnieRawdawg]

@@SchizophenicMongoloid no its not there are not interchangeable parts between this and a saiga but i see you dont know shit about guns

[@AllHopeIsLost1134]

I spit beer all over my TV when that bumping version "Africa" started playing. You're an evil man, don't ever change.

[@fn6266]

Something about AK’s with bore diameters 0.49” or larger gives me the creeps.

[@Wesrl]

Wait till you see the AK 50

[@Canilash]

Looks like a paintball gun. But way more dangerous.

[@josiahricafrente585]

This shotgun, and the montage music, make you wanna curse the rains down in Africa.

[@akarbit3r111]

plus it jamming only a few shots in lol

[@majormalfunction0071]

I read-sang "rains down in Africa". Much funnier.

[@Nick-mu9vu]

Can already feel it raining curses 🤣

[@crimsonhalo13]

"You made a fucky wucky, now you have to put on the headphones and listen to the kazoo music."

[@nobodynone]

It rained milk down in America with this shotgun.

[@victorromero4572]

I just bought this gun yesterday. I cleaned and oiled it first and then went shooting and didnt have one single issue. I ran close to 50 shells through it and not a single jam or failure to eject. Most important thing is having your gas setting adjusted right.

[@ryanmuniz7260]

What shells were you running?

[@victorromero4572]

@@ryanmuniz7260 jus basic federal game loads

[@Hilakilner]

Same here man. Bought mine six months ago and has not had one failure.

[@victorromero4572]

@@Hilakilner thats awssome 💯

[@robertjones2811]

I have had one for 5 years and it has always been better than my saiga and vepr. I trust my life with it.

[@peterslaby9782]

"The perfect shitty gun theme music doesn't exis..." RECORDER. TOTO. AFRICA.

[@pancakedestroyer5289]

I BLESS RAIN DOWN ON FRICA

[@joeg8200]

I never thought I'd hate Toto "Africa"....til I heard this version.....need to bless my ears back to original BRB.

[@mcgusto5123]

I own the T-1 model of this semi auto and it’s been plenty reliable. Everyone else on YT has made sure to mention to break it in with high brass and over 1300fps rounds. That may explain the feed and cycle issues. Mine was a little tight first few cycles.

[@bobmartin9918]

JuSt As GoOd

[@wanderingwonder111]

What they said is true. They do function quite a bit better after being broken in

[@inthewoods3237]

I worked with my T-1 and smoothed out everything, worked the action a couple thousand times(as I knew I would have to) and it shoots everything except “ultra light” loads. As for not hitting anything? Guess he can’t shoot????

[@mcgusto5123]

I mean he’s clearly using standard 00 buck which aren’t high brass and probably somewhere around 1200fps. Anything is going to not cycle if it’s factory new and using ammo that isn’t going to put out the force necessary to cycle it.

[@mcgusto5123]

@@the1knifepro169 yeah, but this one does and it’s not only well known but mentioned in the literature you receive with the gun. There’s a difference between a genuine malfunction and not reading the directions.

[@pro_154]

this is the worst "Low quality" version of any track ever. Love it.

[@davewebster5120]

Surprising everyone, brandon later shoots 50 bmg in it without any mods to the weapon and it cycled a low and mid pressure 50 bmg and all the cast parts held up fine. Despite the rough hewn form it holds together. And at an amazing price

[@austinhamilton1234]

It's semi-semi-automatic. 60% of the time, it cycles every time.

[@toothless01]

Made with real bits of panther so you know it's good.

[@DblodevianT]

1300+ fps ammo and it'll cycle 100%, no complaints out of mine

[@jedironin380]

So it's not fully semi-automatic, so it won't be banned. Right? :)

[@patriotictrendkill9879]

"The trigger is... present" had me dying

[@Vorniforous]

It would

[@TheStygian]

@@Vorniforous But not on this gun.

[@maquino419]

If you’ve ever bought a Chinese made AK shotgun and missed twice at 5 yards, go ahead and hit that subscribe button!

[@food_toobs8333]

I didn’t know I needed a recorder version of “Africa” by Toto, but I certainly need it more than that shitty shotgun lol. Thank you Brandon!

[@calholli]

I think he took that from "Rich Rebuilds" channel.. or at least it's very very similar.

[@JoeyOutlaw]

I have this same shotgun and its runs completely fine with any load 2-1/2” Low Brass Bird Shot too 2-1/2” - 3” Buckshot & Slugs. It has a completely adjustable gas system and as long as you adjust it to the ammo your using and keep it well oiled it will run every time!!! Worth every dollar. They are on sale rn at Palmetto State Armory for $279.00 you cant beat that deal at all.

[@sirascaron]

What Brandon liked about the gun: It stays open if you want it to. It looks good.

[@manualcontrol5581]

Ahhhh, The moment at 12:06 really gave me a chuckle. His reaction to it is the same as everyone who can't shoot for shit at a public range, but the moment they go to a private one by themselves it's just bullseyes all day.

[@clamum9648]

"The trigger is... present" I lol'd IRL good at that

[@LEON-pe1wn]

I wonder if Brandon adjusted the gas block to accommodate for the light shotgun loads? Everyone I know that has one says it eats everything they feed it. He should give it a fair shake again.

[@Malva597]

As soon as the montage hit the video quality dropped to 144p. Fitting.

[@chrisclatterbuck1881]

I have a few mag-fed semi autos and they are all fun, but I have a hard time recommending any expensive or cheap for reliable use. A 100% reliable semi auto 12ga is already hard enough, when you add in the not-so-feed-friendly geometry of 12ga shell, with squishy plastic as opposed to solid brass into a magazine, you make it even harder. This is why most militaries which still use shotguns at all either use a bomb-proof semi with a tube (like the Benellis) or a simple pump shotgun with a tube mag.

[@thedankwizard5963]

This montage music makes me want to buy it even more

[@ronan8834]

And the gun comes with plenty of jam my favourite 😂

[@LeBoomStudios]

His presentation to me honestly seems like they did everything right in development but then cut cut corners in manufacturing. Seems like this could be an actually nice firearm if you were to replace some crucial parts, so it's up for discussion whether that shotgun plus an upgrade parts kit would be cheaper than a Saiga or equivalent.

[@ronan8834]

@@LeBoomStudios here in North of Ireland it's hard to get anything like this without police acception so I wudnt even care if it didn't work half the time just to have sumthin like that lol

[@LeBoomStudios]

@@ronan8834 Me too, I'm from Germany and it's almost as bad as across the pond.

[@luckytenth6827]

I unfortunately know exactly where that song originated from and it's from a channel called "shittyflute". You asked for this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKWrpKR3n9SLjrs Now please don't buy the shotgun.

[@gunnarcole6995]

I would like to point out that these cheaper shotguns really just need a full disassembly and oiling before shooting the first time. Also needs a break in period of 70 to 100 rounds.

[@Drakerot]

“I had no idea how bad the out of the box zero was on this gun” Me to my buddies every single time I go to the range no matter what the gun is

[@CosmicG777]

Lol. Same.

[@TorquilBletchleySmythe]

I would be interested to see a side by side internals comparison with a good Russian Saiga

[@jakeg313]

I bought this shotgun thinking it'd be just another average addition to my collection. It has so far been the only gun I've ever regretted purchasing.

[@barbain101]

Why?

[@bigboi4269]

@@barbain101 because he needs some peanut butter to go along with all that *jam*

[@barbain101]

@@bigboi4269 what jam?

[@Zaaf2003]

@@barbain101 did you... watch the video

[@scott_hunts]

Try polishing some of the parts, and cranking way down on the sights.

[@DreamForged]

LET'S GO BRANDON!!!! Love the Africa kazoo cover!

[@Dominus4776]

My friend learned that just as good isn't always the case while I built his first ar. He kept saying he didn't care how cheap it was as long as it went bang. He's now doubled the cost he originally spent by upgrading those "just as good" parts

[@royaldana1655]

Why didn't he just build a second AR?

[@Dominus4776]

@@royaldana1655 he didn't want to buy another lower and restart. It was mostly furniture that he replaced and the scope. Originally he had some $100 monstrum but upgraded to a vortex strike eagle 2

[@mmmmmmcookiesaregood]

@@Dominus4776 if he mostly just replaced the furniture and the scope then he didn't necessarily improve the justasgood parts. He just made the weapon more user-friendly. The way you say it you imply he made no meaningful improvements other than optics and a handguard, maybe a stock and new grips which i would hesitate to say "improve" the base parts in any way. EDIT: I would also like to add that a good rule of thumb is to spend twice the amount of money you spent on your firearm on your optic, and I would hesitate to call an optic an integral part to the firearm.

[@Dominus4776]

@@mmmmmmcookiesaregood his whole thing was that if it shoots its just as good. I wouldn't say a moe stock or grip has some huge performance bonus, but comfort and ergonomics can make you a better shot

[@T_D_B_]

@@Dominus4776 furniture and an optic are accessories, not parts. They have literally nothing to do with the gun going bang. Holy crap man

[@wadecarter1123]

Bought one a year ago. It was the gen before this one. Sight right on and after about 50 rds of high brass runs flawlessly with all ammo

[@captnsnackbeard6898]

JuST AS gOOd

[@joshuaradick5679]

You'd probably hate my dad's Saiga. It's an actual Saiga with one of those dumb AR style lowers that requires "modified" polymer Saiga mags and runs like shit because "modified" is code for molested by a monkey with a Dremel. It runs unbelievably unreliably as a result. It makes me sad.

[@bishoppope2921]

You most hold your dad accountable and take over as the man in the family. No man can call himself a man if he destroys a saiga

[@jamesallred460]

@@bishoppope2921 that's a goddamn fact!

[@2fathomsdeeper]

The only Dremel accessory to ever touch my Saigas was the cutter bit used to open the ejector pathway on one of the bolts. Otherwise everything was lovingly caressed by Arkansas stones in oil. And that's why they handle 2 3/4 dram without a hitch!

[@bishoppope2921]

@@2fathomsdeeper I've never owned a siaga 12, but I do own a saiga .223 that I converted myself. It's hard to think that I unmolested an AK with a dremel lol

[@bosskilla79]

I have the jts mk 12, it was the 1st shotgun I brought. I have probably 2000 round though it and only 2 failers.. I feel like everything in this video was done to make this gun look bad.

[@ap-mb3sm]

Where u get it

[@scottslater4971]

was my first gun as well, has a break in period but after that runs pretty well, never fails with good quality slugs, never shot buckshot but birdshot is iffy

[@kevinm8865]

Agreed.

[@clintjanes3784]

I mean a good Chinese shotgun is the HR Pardner Pump.

[@kaibowman4803]

I've never had a single firearm that requires a break-in period. Boots need a break-in. Guns shouldn't.

[@joshuamorton7163]

Hey Brandon, just thought I’d let you know that some of the semi auto shotguns need to have 100-150 hi-brass shells run through them to properly break in the cycling before you can use low-brass shells. Idk if you already did this but this could help some of your feeding problems. Guys upvote this so he can see it!

[@jdisdetermined]

This isn't Reddit. There is no upvote.

[@bcav712]

@@jdisdetermined lol

[@ravenwing199]

Brandon probably snapped the gun in half after this.

[@weaverbailbonds1593]

Most manufacturers of magazine fed semi-auto shotguns recommend breaking them in with high brass / high velocity shells (minimum 100 rds). No mention of this in the video. Just negativity and foul language???

[@DailyCorvid]

@@weaverbailbonds1593 I just assumed he did all that, this isn't some random boy scout you know! I think he's comparing this gun to a regular AK, and is disappointed that it is so much worse in practical use. Now you could say, well 12 gauge shotguns handle differently but it shouldn't be that inaccurate from 5 metres out using buck.

[@TheAir2142]

Could that third rivet actually be a support rivet for the receiver? Basically a bar to keep the receiver squeezed together and prevent it from bowing out.

[@patrickriarchy6054]

Probably

[@owllymannstein7113]

That was my thinking when I noticed it on mine, as it does go the whole way across the receiver.

[@andrewgates9333]

Even the saiga twelve liked high brass. There are-were adjustable, aftermarket gas ports you can buy for reliability.

[@marreogreenlee3150]

I have the "Gen 2" version JTS MK12- T1.....FLAWLESS PERFORMANCE! I haven't did any cleaning or maintenance to it & I'm close to 700 shells ran thru it💪🏾...Set the gas settings correctly & push high velocity shells & you should be fine🤷🏾‍♂️

[@jennatellz9677]

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. “Modify the internals and make it function the way it supposed to.” You could even make a how to video for everyone who also made the mistake and purchased one.

[@antonytheocharidis9576]

I don't think the KZbin overlords would like that

[@krel7160]

Is that the AFT I hear in the distance? NAh.. couldn't be, everyone knows they're too busy celebrating the promotion of "The Waco Kid"

[@jennatellz9677]

Hay, I never said to incorporate the 3rd pin into the modification. Let me be more clear “legally modify”

[@derekfrancis3707]

I bought one a year ago. I absolutely love it! Took some break in to get it to work reliably but last weekend took it to the range and shot some clays and it did great. No malfunctions.

[@chrispy-MF]

It not only looks like a homemade gun it performs like one too

[@rugger8787]

I've seen pipe guns perform better

[@salinora0]

don't insult homemade guns like that

[@redstar96gr57]

Pipe guns probably cost less as well to get together than this lul

[@Eric-vs2he]

I've seen a shotgun made out of 2 pipes, an allen wrench, and a stick that works better than this shit

[@salinora0]

@@Eric-vs2he your profile picture stirs up bad memories

[@d.j.9961]

I know the OG JTS M1AK OR M12AK Whatever. The key is to 100% disassemble,CLEAN, & LUBRICATE THE CRAP OUT OF THAT Chinese tool. Soak it in oil. Use only high brass, high pressure ammo & learn how to use the gas port/ regulator! IT HAS TO BE CLEAN & WELL LUBRICATED! I have seen them run flawlessly as long as you know to clean it, LUBRICATE IT, & USE HIGH BRASS, HIGH PRESSURE AMMO! If you have not used a asp ton of lube, it can rust. Click the crap out of it!

[@pcslots5622]

I've had my JTS for almost 2 years and put about 500+ rounds of mostly 00 buck and slug. I have to say that I did some modification to the gun as I tried to improve the gas system with some polishing and deburring of the puck etc. Also, I've replace the forend with a heavily modified Magpul Zhukov and the Ace adapter plate that was once available for the gun. Used a Tom Cole conversion choke tube to thread on a Saiga compatible brake and it shoots great. I am keeping an eye on the bolt for wear, but so far so good. Also I highly recommend CSSPECs mags that they make for this. Steel, feeds well and most importantly, securely locks into the gun.

[@312FL]

The CSSPECS website does not carry any magazines for the JTS mk 12 AK shotgun. I checked their website and nothing. 😢

[@tristondoyle9286]

Thanks man. Just ordered two

[@TB_in_the_coffee]

For some reason every time I hear Brandon say "and as always" I expect to hear "have nice day" and his actual sign off catches me off guard without fail

[@shaunpatterson9148]

"Its is fps russia, and too day i have something veerry nice for you guys"

[@XxKilllerNinjaGamexX]

Honestly as an owner of this exact shotgun, I haven’t had many issues with it. Few malfunctions upon those break in rounds but after about 150 rounds, no issues since

[@raidercann1]

i bought one as well and it runs great havent had any issues at all over last two years! ive put atleast 3k rounds through it and love it for the price.

[@Lucascool45]

Same, I read lots of things saying they needed a break in of 100-200 rounds. I’ve probably put 150 though it so far, and have literally never had a single issue. Maybe it’s just been luck or maybe I got one of few good ones. I personally love it. Check out Mod Max on KZbin if you ever want to modify it.

[@dioandgomezthenavyburglars5596]

It's called the gun not the make... Well most of the time it's not the make.

[@r_r_a_m6916]

Yeah same ours runs perfect after a admittedly shitty start for about 100 rounds

[@TheRedRomans]

I have the exact same shotgun and I haven't had many issues either. I would buy a real Saiga 12 or the real variants but I live in MD and with covid stuff that is hard to find. I still need to shoot more bird shot load but other then that it works great 👍

[@MrGottaGo]

They work awesome. Adjustable gas block is key. Roll it to 3 & watch it eat.

[@grim4655]

I have the newer version; JTS ak12t1. I've never had a problem with it? And I've ran over 500 rounds through it. The gun does need a 200 round break in Period

[@admpandora91]

"That's not a gun, that's a paperweight." No, it is a gun... technically Also, Swype trying to write 'gun' as 'fun' constantly has me going, "I like your spirit, but no."

[@ModMax69]

yeah there's a guy that mods these and says it is cool its me

[@xavierdiaz3118]

Just fixed mine today. Thought I might've wasted my money until I figured out what was wrong with it. It's actually a pretty decent gun tbh. You need to clean the garbage and crap out of it that the manufacturers left in it. Changing the gas setting alone, will not fix this problem. Sorry you had a bad experience with it Brandon!

[@justicemcdonald2939]

Right i had to do the same thing and it works fine now.

[@nilsniemeier5345]

Well, that certainly looks NY legal given that it can't cycle.

[@chrisc2920]

This pains me as a NY resident

[@cadesmith6982]

Something like this wouldn’t even deserve the steel.

[@whoami1449]

Well, its chinese steel, and they are weaker than wood...rotting wood

[@setesh1294]

Steel shotgun casings.

[@JJW3]

It is hard to believe I kicked myself over impulse buying a VEPR-12 years ago, thinking it was a novelty. Once Molot got sanctioned, it turned out to be very fortuitous. Thankfully I've kept it. The fact this thing has a superfluous 3rd pin makes me want to get one, solely to troll busy-body hall monitor types at the range and get them all bent out of shape.

[@metningsniva3856]

Then RIchard Beazit from the AFT is going to come shoot your dog

[@stn7172]

Is this guy Brandon prior military?

[@ThomasHendrickson]

@@stn7172 no

[@spaceball2001]

I picked up the jts ar12 it shocked me how smooth it ran

[@lmrodriguez2011]

I've had my JTS 12AK T1 for 8 months. I have not had these issues and I've put almost 1k rounds through it.

[@brandonvidrine3472]

Same here never had a problem with it even with low power shells.

[@afsdgdfgergerg]

I've had mine for longer and never had anything but problems with it. Might just vary from gun to gun but mine was so bad I just gave up on it. Put it in storage and haven't wanted to mess with it for a while now.

[@tw6711]

No problems with mine either.. Well over 3k rounds

[@kobrakon47]

Same, I think Brandon may have just gotten a bad one cause I’ve had a JTS M12AK for a little under a year and never had any problems with it despite putting hundreds of rounds through it, it’s one of my favorite guns in my collection

[@j_freeman3230]

@@jtsgroup1294 itsa newish video. Maybe he is just finding a way to arrange his pride to communicate correctly.

[@dkletzmayerful]

I'm excited to watch your attempts to destroy this. I haven't seen nobody talk bad about them yet but everyone was surprised by their durability

[@damon2772nomad]

A hammer is durable. Though...many choose not to use it as a gun.

[@dkletzmayerful]

@@damon2772nomad actually hammers kill more people than guns... Just saying

[@RODE594]

It’s trash…

[@dkletzmayerful]

@@RODE594 I'm failing to understand who fickin asked you

[@T_D_B_]

@@dkletzmayerful ooo tough guy

[@grumpycato8314]

Whoever had the idea to add those "fail sounds" at the whiteclaw cans deserves a high-five and a cold one

[@jellyfish1433]

Mine runs smooth as butter with cheap birdshot from Walmart. First 100 shells were cheap high brass loads and they jammed about once every mag for the first 50, but smoothed up after that and stopped jamming completely after 70 rounds. Haven’t had an issue since and I love it! Yours either wasn’t broken in properly, or you were effected by the wonderful thing known as “lackluster qc”

[@gunsandcommissions]

"Maybe it's a height over bore thing. I'm going to aim lower to compensate!" That's not really how that works.

[@ThatFKNGoon]

I’m not saying they are all full proof,maybe I got one that had correct tolerance? I had about 1200 rounds thru mine and I don’t remember any issues even with lighter loads. I don’t have the gun anymore or I would do a 500 round burndown.

[@adioamigo22]

Brandon's reaction to actually hitting the can the first time is something i need more of in my life.

[@ImmaSaveUFromMe]

Gai

[@kirkmanjames]

The flutes (recorders?) were a stroke of genius.. Kudos, good sir!

[@Racketeerof89]

I bought that shotgun awhile back from academy a few years ago. Most of the issues went away after about 100 shots. Definitely not a hunting or SD weapon. Fun just to mess around on an open range.

[@youtubeisasshoe69]

agreed, it's main purpose is to have fun with and not worry about beating up, it's not that good, but it's a lot of fun after you break it in.

[@BayouGhostGAME]

I also have an JTSAK 12 but mine doesn’t malfunction nearly as much as his. Maybe the gun itself isn’t what’s broken but Quality Control at the factory that produces them.

[@gamingwithdodge154]

ya same here, i have about 250 rounds through mine, maybe had 2 ftf and thats about it.... the mag is a pain in the ass tho. maybe we just got lucky on our guns?

[@teamnolimitxxxx]

Same here have about 300 rounds without a misdeeds on my jts

[@ericwalker8918]

Mine as well. But I went through it with very fine wet sandpaper. Using oil I hit all the areas were the bolt rails are and pulled out the piston and worked the inside a bit. So after I manually broke it in, this thing runs like a scalded dog. Not one issue.

[@Threefiftylegend]

I concur I have never had an issue out of my jts I even cut the mag well off and Brandon has no idea what he's talking about about the locking lugs it doesn't have a rear locking lug for the magazine it uses the mag release for the locking lug that is attached to the magazine well

[@larrypatterson7290]

just depends if you want to find something bad about it ,blaming the way it shoots instead of the shooter just adjust the sites problem solved

[@zebracherub]

I’d LOVE to see this also reviewed on Forgotten Weapons

[@davidv.3135]

I bought one recently and it is a Beast! Runs perfectly!

[@TucoTheKiller]

And suddenly, palmetto state armory is no longer sold out of these.

[@d2solutions185]

When can we expect a plasma torch “disassembly” of the Jts ?

[@katana1430]

I hope he shoots it with the AK-50

[@ClaymoreClay101]

Thumbs up for the "hey mom, can we get" meme reference and the very appropriately selected montage music.

[@LS3_Jaden]

WHAT?! My JTS-12 is amazing dude! One of the best semi automatic shotguns I’ve ever owned. My next one I want is a BM4 but the Saiga/ JTS-12 is amazing. I never had the shell stuck in the receiver like that before. My KSG-12 was amazing too. Guns like this just have to be broken in. Kinda like a new car.