Worst case runbacks

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Domo3000

Domo3000

Күн бұрын

#darksouls #darksouls2
Intro 0:00
Iron Golem 0:45
Gwyndolin 3:10
Bed of Chaos 5:51
Sif 8:34
Four Kings 11:20
Quelaag 13:10
The Rotten 14:09
Mytha 16:19
Velstadt 18:56
Elena 20:25
Guardian Dragon 21:19
Twin Dragonrider 22:38
Old Iron King 23:22

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@Shyguymask
@Shyguymask 2 күн бұрын
I forgot how awful the iron golem runback is when you don't know the secret bonfire. You brought back bad memories of my first playthrough.
@enigmatic8280
@enigmatic8280 2 күн бұрын
Good thing he's one the easier bosses.
@Stinkymoe
@Stinkymoe 2 күн бұрын
You are the famous PvZ guy
@rampagaaa1849
@rampagaaa1849 2 күн бұрын
Yoo crosscode guy
@matteopriotto5131
@matteopriotto5131 2 күн бұрын
6:52 you don't need the ring to give Quelaag's sister humanity. You won't hear any dialogue but all her covenant's content is completely available.
@JellyJman
@JellyJman 2 күн бұрын
Shoutout to all the poor players who never found the bonfire before the Iron Golem and had to do the entire Sen’s Fortress LOL. Maybe that’s why the best summon in any game is there for the boss. TARKUS TARKUS TARKUS!
@jarlwhiterun7478
@jarlwhiterun7478 Күн бұрын
I found it on accident when an enemy knocked me down there
@PIKL_Creep
@PIKL_Creep Күн бұрын
You can just take the cage elevator shortcut and it takes you right in front of the fog gate. If 3 man serpents are enough to stop you then you're cooked lol
@usermann_5731
@usermann_5731 3 сағат бұрын
Good thing there is usually at least one sign "bonfire ahead" on the floor
@UnbreakingStar
@UnbreakingStar 2 күн бұрын
There was a really horrible runback that I've done but not a boss runback. I once did the great decision to explore the great hollow and ash lake before getting the lordvessel and I also rested at the ash lake bonfire. I also got cursed by the frogs in one of my attempts without having a purging stone so I had to go through the entire great hollow backwards while having half hp (let me note that I was pretty early in the game and quite inexperienced with souls games). I can also remember a specific spot in the great hollow that blocks you from going through backwards (I think the floor after it was a little bit elevated or something and prevented you from walking towards it) and forced me to make a difficult jump at a branch right next to it. Anyways, I spent 4 hours or so and I made myself the most painful runback that day.
@Domo3000
@Domo3000 2 күн бұрын
I did that journey in another video. It took me like 15 minutes from the second Ash Lake bonfire to run back to Firelink Shrine. It's brutal.
@bihn
@bihn 2 күн бұрын
That trip back is always such a journey, I actually quite enjoyed it 😊
@floppyslot
@floppyslot 2 күн бұрын
Oh man I remember doing that on the unpatched version where the curse takes your life down to almost nothing.
@unleashedbread6146
@unleashedbread6146 2 күн бұрын
This happened to me too! i asked for advice online and people just said to start a new character lol. I guess i thought i could warp from ash lake but NOPE
@jarlwhiterun7478
@jarlwhiterun7478 Күн бұрын
Can't stand that one janky branch that makes you almost fall to go up
@TentacularTaku
@TentacularTaku 2 күн бұрын
I love the little tangents you go on. It goes to show just how invested into these games and their details you are.
@qwertyasdf4081
@qwertyasdf4081 2 күн бұрын
i’m quite sure you don’t need the Old Witch’s Ring to open the shortcut for Bed of Chaos. you can offer her humanity and level up the covenant without her dialogue.
@bihn
@bihn 2 күн бұрын
This is true.
@adamyohan
@adamyohan 2 күн бұрын
Yeah
@_BBAGG_
@_BBAGG_ 2 күн бұрын
You literally blew my mind with the old iron king shortcut. I've had to deal with that aweful runback for so long, never knowing there was a closer bonfire than the Smelter Demon one.
@jarlwhiterun7478
@jarlwhiterun7478 Күн бұрын
Figuratively*
@_BBAGG_
@_BBAGG_ Күн бұрын
@@jarlwhiterun7478 Nah, I used Literally to give emphasis to what I was saying, it's called Exaggeration.
@Ashipwreckedguy
@Ashipwreckedguy 2 күн бұрын
I missed every single ds1 shortcut/hidden bonfire (except opening the door for sif if you want to count that) in this video on my first playthrough. For Quelaag I ran from the middle blighttown bonfire.
@Domo3000
@Domo3000 2 күн бұрын
That's harsh. First you get shipwrecked and then wrecked by runbacks
@Ashipwreckedguy
@Ashipwreckedguy 2 күн бұрын
@@Domo3000 Honestly the only two that really had me frustrated was Queelag and Bed of Chaos as I died against them a fair bit. By comparison Iron Golem and Sif were first tries, but I died plenty just trying to reach the Golem. By the time I was doing Four King runbacks from Firelink I had sort of just accepted that "this was how the game worked" lol.
@Domo3000
@Domo3000 2 күн бұрын
@@Ashipwreckedguy I started with Demon Souls so none of them would have felt out of the ordinary
@oswaldofcarim796
@oswaldofcarim796 2 күн бұрын
not a runback perse, but running back from tomb of the giants to firelink without warping is probably the most messed up thing in dark souls
@JellyJman
@JellyJman 2 күн бұрын
Lebron James reported reach the tomb of giants without obtaining the lordvessel!
@numlockryt
@numlockryt 2 күн бұрын
I've always thought hiding bonfires was a kinda dumb decision. The game does a great job getting players to explote via hidden items and areas, while doing this with bonfires has always seemed like an odd choice, given they are so critically important to the game that continually missing one makes the game so much more punishing and demotivating to play for someone who's newer. There's a certain amount of punishing and encouraging exploration that should be done in a game, but imo hiding checkpoints behind hidden walls or behind a drop you can't really see is too far, and only serves to really damage a new players experience imo
@Domo3000
@Domo3000 2 күн бұрын
They should have just added some obvious visual indication to them. That would make the player feel smart, but right now it just depends on if you read messages or not.
@yzavf8486
@yzavf8486 2 күн бұрын
100% agreed
@HowdyYT
@HowdyYT 2 күн бұрын
I was going to comment about the message system, but honestly if you play offline you better be SUPER observant or you’re going to miss pretty much 90% of the hidden walls.
@klatschi7968
@klatschi7968 2 күн бұрын
I love that ds2 has a helmet that let's you see messages near hidden walls even while offline, it is a dlc helm tho
@Rendorina
@Rendorina Күн бұрын
​@@klatschi7968Yeah you can also use the miracle "Seek Guidance" to show the messages in ds2.
@GoonCommander
@GoonCommander 2 күн бұрын
There's a hidden bonfire in Izalith?
@Haariroy
@Haariroy 2 күн бұрын
I'm of two minds about the very hidden bonfires like in the dragon sanctum or aldia's keep. It's potentially a problem that you're so unlikely to discover it on your own, especially for people playing offline, but it does play nicely into the community information sharing aspect that is a core piece of the whole series. I found all the hidden bonfires in ds2 thanks to messages pointing them out, and it always feels nice to help and be helped like that. Regardless, great in depth analysis as always
@Domo3000
@Domo3000 2 күн бұрын
Offline you need to cast Guidance every 3 minutes in order to stand on equal footing with online players, as it will show messages in front of every illusory wall. They should have just given those two some visual indication.
@thediabolicalraisin8953
@thediabolicalraisin8953 9 сағат бұрын
By that point, you'd at least know there's more than 1 bonfire in those areas.
@SuperSaiyanNoob
@SuperSaiyanNoob Күн бұрын
The AI voice going "weeeeeeeee" at 6:36 is hilarious
@weirdemon_
@weirdemon_ 2 күн бұрын
The worst runback is the ng+ drangliec castle entrance in vanilla it's just way too hard to deal with a red phantom 2 mamoths and royal soldiers constantly harassing you with crossbows
@JellyJman
@JellyJman 2 күн бұрын
I wonder why they removed them in scholar. But I would say the worst NG+ run is totally iron keep. 7 red phantoms from the starting bonfire 😢
@volbia12
@volbia12 2 күн бұрын
I would personally rate the Lud and Zallen runback just as bad as running through the entirety of Sen's fortress for Iron Golem, I fell into the damn pit so many times because of the snowstorm
@knivy6160
@knivy6160 2 күн бұрын
While I'm not 100% on this, it wouldn't surprise me if the reason the grave warden hit you there is because of hitbox shifting or maybe interpolation. I think interpolation would be more documented if it existed, but it's basically when the game sort of draws hit boxes that would flow in between frames of animation. Weird reference point, but I think smash bros has well documented showcases of interpolation being good and jank, if ds2 does interpolate hitboxes, and like I said I'm not 100% on that. If ds2 does interpolate it's hit boxes, I imagine he thrusted directly at you but because of the way he was facing, and the tracking on it, it created a small short lasting 180 degree sweep that covered everything to his left. It could also just be hitbox/hurtbox shifting, and he thrusted directly at you for a frame and it just barely clipped your toe or something.
@mablungbalrog424
@mablungbalrog424 2 күн бұрын
whips are actually really good at breaking the poison statues in black gulch because of their range
@JellyJman
@JellyJman 2 күн бұрын
I ended up using the zweihander even without the stats because of the range
@minespatch
@minespatch 2 күн бұрын
Never realized that the darkroot basin bonfire is faster than firelink. I should've done that during my platinum 🤣
@TasTheWatcher
@TasTheWatcher 2 күн бұрын
They could have put a bonfire on the roof with Ingward. Out of the water, and next to a somewhat important NPC.
@MAYOFORCE
@MAYOFORCE 22 сағат бұрын
The issue with that is that he's standing on top of a building filled with like 20 ghosts, and as unlikely as it would be you could potentially reach it from the very beginning and run out of transient curses and get trapped. It wouldn't be a fun runback either way. I'd put one in front of the giant door to the Valley of Drakes myself.
@samthepigman4069
@samthepigman4069 2 күн бұрын
I don't think people understand how absurdly brutal ds1 can be on a first playthrough. Ds2 can be frustrating but at least if you know that you need to take your time through the levels, it isn't bad at all. Ds1 straight up felt like a rage game on my first playthrough even with guides and online help. A lot of the areas felt really spammy with the enemies (I had only played ds3 and elden ring before this) and I just wasn't having any fun. If I had thought that the other games had been like ds1 I don't think I would have played the other games because so many of the interactions feel like the devs just want to troll the player for no reason
@bihn
@bihn 2 күн бұрын
I played Dark Souls as my first, and I never felt this way at all. I guess we had a very different experience.
@samthepigman4069
@samthepigman4069 2 күн бұрын
@bihn On my first playthrough, I played with light armor on medium roll. I didn't realize poise was such a massive mechanic in ds1 so everything stunlocked me and I would lose every trade. This mechanic was never explained to me but I assumed that medium roll was enough to avoid damage
@bihn
@bihn 2 күн бұрын
@@samthepigman4069 I found poise intuitive, it made sense to me that armor with higher poise would help me stagger less. The in-game explanation of poise: "Ability to receive attacks without breaking form." It's a pretty accurate description, and I found the system intuitive. It's unfortunate that you didn't understand poise, but the explanation was there.
@kioken101
@kioken101 2 күн бұрын
That's funny because about two weeks ago my friend who loved playing through DS1 played DS2 and although he finished the game once on vanilla (he was not having a pleasant time), quit halfway through SoTFS because he considered it a rage game, which was his preconception of what DS1 would be. Admittedly he played poorly at times in both, but his only real gripe in 1 was getting cursed, he felt like the game was trying it's hardest to kill him in 2.
@khashygeld9776
@khashygeld9776 17 сағат бұрын
I just had the same experience as you
@nightscout9979
@nightscout9979 2 күн бұрын
The hidden Bonfire in Lost Izalith was always present, and the dragon legs indeed once had enormous aggro ranges. The best strategy for dealing with the dragon legs was to run into the first pagoda and hope that you could dodge and stay far enough out of range from the door and the walls the dragon legs were clipping through until they all defeated themselves via friendly fire. A bow would help with picking them off at the door too. Also, aside from the opportunity to save Solaire, the Chaos Servant walkway avoids all of the dragon legs. Considering how obnoxious those enemies were with their initial aggro ranges, this route to Izalith was a great reward. I appreciate the unique equipment you had for every boss fight in the clips!
@luisbarahona2583
@luisbarahona2583 2 күн бұрын
14:20 that....that was bonfire.......I only noticed the statue on my last and successful attempt...
@sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf3053
@sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf3053 Күн бұрын
Undead crypt first bonfire was hidden under the steps and easely missable.
@lenikai
@lenikai Күн бұрын
No way they removed the bonfire in the New Londo Ruins, would have been such a quality of life bonfire
@willwoolf
@willwoolf Күн бұрын
First of all I never knew where the bonfire in upper Sen's is, or especially about that cage shortcut. Second of all I just finished a new playthrough where I never fast travelled so I've been through Sen's back and forth about seven times. The full way.
@Losttank09
@Losttank09 2 күн бұрын
At 17:55, i think it was your foot when running that got caught in the hitbox. it seems to extend behind you quite a bit, not sure but just a guess.
@Domo3000
@Domo3000 2 күн бұрын
Yeah that seems to be the best explanation.
@GBA-049
@GBA-049 2 күн бұрын
​@@Domo3000Bearer of the Curse is too sensitive
@GBA-049
@GBA-049 2 күн бұрын
Really the only thing that's bad about DS2 runbacks are the enemies. Length wise it's fine and honestly quite tame. (excluding FO of course) But DS1 sacrifices enemies with the most mind-numbingly tedius paths you could _ever_ possibly take in your life. I have suffered through the worst case of Gwyndolin. (and have a video of it) It is as bad as it looks here.
@luckyluke31813
@luckyluke31813 2 күн бұрын
I found the sen‘s fortress bonfire on my third playthrough I think. I was just lucky enough to beat the iron golem first try.
@scotty-man
@scotty-man Сағат бұрын
the hidden bonfire in lost izalith was in the game day one, i played the pre-patched version of the game on my ps3 and it was still there!
@Battleguild
@Battleguild 2 күн бұрын
Looked like a combination of the Gravekeeper's initial tracking on your character before locking into the spear thrust and your character's running animation. My best guess is that the spear's hitbox grazed your character's right heel when it was raised at its highest point.
@Domo3000
@Domo3000 2 күн бұрын
Yeah that's probably it
@thegameguy208
@thegameguy208 2 күн бұрын
I love seeing all these different paths, knowing there are people who had to use them. Rip to many hours of people time lmao Good video. One thing though: something you could do while youre showing the clips is to add the amount of time it took in the corner. Would help when you’re showing multiple clips at once.
@sebastianpijov8708
@sebastianpijov8708 10 сағат бұрын
Got to mention that the Four Kings runback is even worse if you let the firekeeper die and you haven't found the darkroot basin hidden bonfire. The nearest bonfire is either the lord vessel ( if you have it), or the undead parish one.
@alatiel11
@alatiel11 2 күн бұрын
Somehow I did not discover the first iron keep bonfire on my first playthrough, so I had to run to smelter demon from Mytha's secret bonfire (yeah, somehow, I discovered this one). It's was not harder than a regular smelter runback, since there aren't much more enemies, but HELL it was annoying to ride that elevator everytime I died at the keep or the boss. Now imagine how bad would OIK runback from that bonfire be.
@tray84
@tray84 2 күн бұрын
that's crazy how you got those two switched than normal
@klatschi7968
@klatschi7968 Күн бұрын
I missed thst one too for like 3 deaths
@Zoomii5
@Zoomii5 Күн бұрын
Genuinely, how did you miss that? Do people not explore every possible pathway in each area?
@alatiel11
@alatiel11 Күн бұрын
@@Zoomii5 I don't know, I was just ignoring both left and right turns and always went straight to the bridge.
@bihn
@bihn 2 күн бұрын
I didn't find any of the bonfires in Iron Keep, that runback was brutal.
@MonchiDiaz11
@MonchiDiaz11 Күн бұрын
I'd forgotten how awful those hidden bonfires were in DS2. There in the most random walls and you have to hit the action button instead of the typical attack, so they are waaaay harder to find. I mean, why in the hell would I press A on this random ass wall?
@CBFaoladh
@CBFaoladh 2 күн бұрын
What was that weapon for the black glitch section? I’ve never seen it before, or is it a set of gauntlets?
@Domo3000
@Domo3000 2 күн бұрын
Malformed Claws
@asdergold1
@asdergold1 Күн бұрын
Sets of weapons do not exist pre-DS3 in Souls.
@CBFaoladh
@CBFaoladh Күн бұрын
@@Domo3000 ty
@Daxxelxz
@Daxxelxz 2 күн бұрын
6:50 You don't need the ring at all in the game, I always use the shortcut and I've only used the ring once
@FRealw27026
@FRealw27026 2 күн бұрын
Yeah he’s wrong on that
@funkymachine
@funkymachine 2 күн бұрын
You also don't need to keep the egg guy alive, and also you can donate all 30 at once
@Zapdos7471
@Zapdos7471 2 күн бұрын
DS1 has many different versions, but I am not familiar with any of those fair lady problems.
@dagothurik1815
@dagothurik1815 2 күн бұрын
I’m glad somebody said it
@Grarlic
@Grarlic 2 күн бұрын
@@funkymachine Offering/using items in bulk was added in the remaster
@ZombieKitty321
@ZombieKitty321 2 күн бұрын
15:25 Has that bonfire been there this whole time? I have legit always ran back from the gutter. Legit i have never even seen either of those bonfires, i have always just ran through from the first one. WTF.
@Zapdos7471
@Zapdos7471 2 күн бұрын
Certified dark souls moment there. RIP
@buiuzinhocaradesapo
@buiuzinhocaradesapo 12 сағат бұрын
Nah frigid outskirts is the ultimate filter
@jamesarthurkimbell
@jamesarthurkimbell 2 күн бұрын
Adding this to the wikipedia for "tu quoque"
@violetstag7934
@violetstag7934 16 сағат бұрын
I recently started my first playthrough a couple months ago of Dark Souls 2 (haven't finished it due to a big move) and the only reason I was determined to defeat the Old Iron King in one try is because my bonfire was the Belfry one. I didn't know about that one near the fire/spike rooms so I dreaded the idea of going through all of that portion of the keep again if I died. And well I defeated him in one try so I didn't have to lololol! This video makes me realize how much I have missed in this game. It's great!!
@thecrowrats5535
@thecrowrats5535 14 сағат бұрын
I had a horrid 5 minute runback in NG+ in DS1 one time, basically I was trying to beat the bosses in the strangest order i could think of and i was fighting the Four Kings before Anor Londo, unfortunately for me Firelink shrine wasnt an option because the firekeeper was dead, i tried from Undead Parish but id forgotten to upgrade that bonfire to 20 flasks and the 10 there were simply not enough, to my dissmay the closest bonfire i had with 20 flasks was the roof of Sen’s Fortress so i had to endure this 5 minute runback from the Sen’s Fortress bonfire i had to first take off Haval's armour, then run to the cage shortcut, across the Parish church, down through Firelink, down to New Londo, drop down after the first ghosts, past the darkwraiths, run halfway down the stairs then i put Haval's armour back on and then finally drop down
@AlsoMeowskivich
@AlsoMeowskivich Күн бұрын
dark souls is a series of dark comedic events if you know where to look
@LeemonIsOnYutub
@LeemonIsOnYutub 2 күн бұрын
I remember missing the first iron keep bonfire and mytha hidden bonfire in my 1st playthrough. So whenever I died, I had to go aaaall the way from earthen peak to smelter demon(didn't known he was optional).
@lildort246
@lildort246 2 күн бұрын
6:36 wheeeeeeeeeeeee
@Greyjoyfyag
@Greyjoyfyag 2 күн бұрын
I think the Catacombs run to Pinwheel then back to Firelink Shrine is worth a mention since happens a lot for people on first blind playthroughs end up going there and somehow not realize it is not intended because of how the Souls reputation goes about being a hard series of games, so they are misleaded by it and think it's normal not doing any damage to skeletons. At worst case scenario I know people that even made all their way to the first or second tomb of giants bonfires without the Lordvessel then having to climb their way back extremely underleved and with a +0 weapon. The wheel skeletons are specially horrible to deal with in this run.
@alexgowin5585
@alexgowin5585 2 күн бұрын
Personally, what makes the Frigid Outskirts runback so bad is that freaking "reindeer" thing. I don't know why, but I have such a hard time dodging it when trying to run back to the boss fight. Not only that, but I fell off into the pit just before the boss fight several times because of the snowstorm and losing track of where I was. In general, I personally will take a Run-back with less enemies, rather than the shortest route (to a point of course). So it is also a little dependent on taste and preference I think.
@easley_sigma
@easley_sigma 7 сағат бұрын
You should cover the gaping dragon, on my first playthrough I was stuck on him for so long because i was cursed and didnt know how to cure it, and also I missed every single shortcut in the area and had to spend like 5 minutes getting to him every time
@lohhe6532
@lohhe6532 2 күн бұрын
Love your videos but please up the brightness in your game footage
@aoiyozora67
@aoiyozora67 2 күн бұрын
Pinwheel imo has one of the worst runbacks
@shiroamakusa8075
@shiroamakusa8075 2 күн бұрын
They added a bonfire to Vamos' forge in the remaster so it's actually one of the shortest runbacks now. And Pinwheel is a one-shot boss in any case so that was never the problem. The problem is more going to the Tomb of Giants afterwards and falling to your death while you stumble around in the pitch darkness.
@aoiyozora67
@aoiyozora67 2 күн бұрын
@@shiroamakusa8075 issue is that on first playthrough, that place where you drop down in, its hard to tell if you could survive the fall. Playthroughs after it, you can easily die if not positioned right. Plus skeleton wheels are my most hated enemies in the entire series. Anyway, video demonstrates how bad runbacks are if shortcuts or bonfires are missed. But yeah I totally agree with you on Tomb of the giants. Even worse the tomb of the giants bonfires (both of them) are missable in the darkness.
@MisterMusicMan92
@MisterMusicMan92 Күн бұрын
Idk if it just didn't fit the criterea or something but i was surprised that Darklurker isn't in this list cos god damn, having to pay for the chance to win at a 3v1 for a chance to fight it every time is pretty egregious
@iainkilcar7463
@iainkilcar7463 2 күн бұрын
So when people talk about bad runbacks they're usually talking about the optimum runback
@Domo3000
@Domo3000 2 күн бұрын
When people complain about a horrible runback they often missed a shortcut or closer bonfire.
@JellyJman
@JellyJman 2 күн бұрын
In my experience when people talk about bad run backs it’s usually the least optimal run, at least for first time players
@freshlysqueezedcheeze
@freshlysqueezedcheeze 2 күн бұрын
I did the old iron king without going up the ladder and i thought it was the worst runback i ever experienced i had a rapier and had to kill every single enemy individually i almost first tried the boss but i think i became brain dead and died enough that all the enemys despawned some of my deaths were because i fell in the lava when fighting the boss too and i dont think my rapier was fully upgraded because i remember every enemy being taking 5 hits which is very hard to do when you got 20 other enemies going after you much rather do frigid outskirts than do that shit again
@WeirdTroll666
@WeirdTroll666 2 күн бұрын
you don't need seance ring for Gwyndolin, you just attack the statue to remove it lol also on the bed of chaos one i used the Queelana route but from the bonfire before centipede demon, it is faster
@Bossu
@Bossu 2 күн бұрын
15:00 Right there! You just described the source of the most common complaints about DS2. None of them want to adapt, they want THEIR fashion and THEIR weapon and THEIR rings, and if it's extremely hard to do without adapting: Game bad. I'm not even kidding, i've seen multiple first playthroughs where people's first and ONLY response to Black Gulch is to rush it. I refuse to believe BG's first bonfire is a missable bonfire though. You just entered a new area (which is where you would often expect bonfires) and you can see it by simply looking left into the alcove while walking forward.
@fouadmeddah2790
@fouadmeddah2790 Күн бұрын
Brother , I respect this video but there is no place worse than the frigid outskirts That place is the first sin
@axilleaszohios2536
@axilleaszohios2536 2 күн бұрын
I remember playing ds1 and had to get to the caping demon from firelink shrine becaus i didnt find the bonefire in the area and took way to long
@totallynotkavak7128
@totallynotkavak7128 2 күн бұрын
I’ve been watching a bunch of your videos and I’m happy there’s finally someone defending DSII and showing the faults in the other games, though after all this I have one question; is that your cat in your profile picture? They are adorable.
@asdergold1
@asdergold1 Күн бұрын
Honestly the Aldia's Keep hidden bonfire is easy to find. The wall looks way too perfect. Far too perfect.
@kolbra4170
@kolbra4170 Күн бұрын
9:37 dawg what😭
@Zapdos7471
@Zapdos7471 2 күн бұрын
The ultimate nightmare run back for me was the no resting at bonfires challenge in DS2. You can only set your respawn location at each bonfire once by lighting it. You end up having to go through multiple sections of Shrine of Amana without resting or saving progress either going in or on the way back out. I chose to run the whole gauntlet on my way out and jfc was that an ugly day. Not a run back to a boss, but a run back to any bonfire not in the longest, worst dead end.
@delson84
@delson84 21 сағат бұрын
Frigid Outskirts? I thought it was called HFV.
@Daxxelxz
@Daxxelxz 2 күн бұрын
7:30 That's one thing that I really like, duplicating objects to make the races more enjoyable is so easy that I give a point to ds1 for having that bug.
@victorprati7908
@victorprati7908 2 күн бұрын
I think the whole concept of runbacks were never being considered an actual issue in the Souls trilogy as you weren't supposed to get back at the boss with all your flasks and at full health (unless the devs clearly put a bonfire right next to the boss arena. For me it worked more like checkpoints where you were suppose to go through the final section of areas fighting some enemies in your way and reaching the boss with maybe half of your flasks idk. This idea of running pass enemies straight to the boss is a player invented issue that for some reason became a game flaw.
@HowdyYT
@HowdyYT 2 күн бұрын
I think the kindle system is great for this. Having trouble getting to the boss? Kindle and now you have 5 charges for the run, 5 for the boss. I was torn on the respawn statues in Elden Ring when it first launched, but in a game like that I understand it. Dark Souls and Demon’s Souls both want you to get confident clearing the level before moving onto the boss. ER pretty much just shifts the entire learning curve from 50-50 level-boss to 5% level 95% boss. I feel like we’re a little bit spoiled today, with all the knowledge and context of the games. 10 years ago I think getting back to the bosses was part of the fun. Maybe we’re just outliers lol
@bihn
@bihn 2 күн бұрын
I always fought my way to the boss on my first few playthroughs, only running past enemies once I was very familiar with the game and I still died multiple times. Plus the extra souls don't hurt if you're already struggling and dying against the boss.
@96justinc
@96justinc 2 күн бұрын
​@HowdyYT the bosses are alot harder and faster in Sekiro and ER comoared to the older games so it would would make sense that you aren't just running to get your ass handed to you more often and you can actually study the patterns instead
@gilgamesh310
@gilgamesh310 13 сағат бұрын
What did that blacksmith ever do to you that you had to go and kill him?
@Domo3000
@Domo3000 4 сағат бұрын
Curiosity. I was interested to see if you can lock yourself out of getting the key, but he drops it
@Nova-Franconia
@Nova-Franconia 2 күн бұрын
I’m sorry, but if you don’t find the bonfire up the ladder right before the old iron king, you’re actually either too blind for DS2, or you don’t give enough of a f to play the game properly, indicators you should probably put down the game and play something you actually enjoy. Honestly, the normal smelter demon runback is already worse than the old iron king, not even talking about Sir Alonne or the Blue Smelter Demon.
@adamyohan
@adamyohan 2 күн бұрын
The bridge elevator is usable from every side. You don't need to run past the rafters more than once ever again. Aka you can go to Gwyndolin from the first Anor Londo bonfire. A bad runback but nowhere near the path you chose.
@Domo3000
@Domo3000 2 күн бұрын
If the elevator is down at Gwyndolin, how do you get it back up from this side of the bridge?
@adamyohan
@adamyohan Күн бұрын
@@Domo3000 you pull the lever. There's one on each side where you fight the gargoyles.
@alatiel11
@alatiel11 2 күн бұрын
6:46 - You can attack Eingyi, this doesn't change anything regarding the covenant itself. You also don't need the witch's ring to enter the covenant and offer humanity. And I always gave her 30 humanities at once, this never caused any issues either. You actually showed that on your footage, when you gave 30 humanities, you received chaos storm spell. That's a rank 2 reward, you get nothing from rank 1. Okay, after paying a little more attention, I can say that you either purposely tried to fake the humanity issue, or you somehow got your footages mixed and came up with the wrong assumption (I question this one, though). After getting chaos storm, which is 30 humanities, you cut your footage to offering another 30 and gettitng nothing. The message also says that your loyalty has increased, but not the rank. This means that you were at 30 points (rank 2) and got to 60 (not enough to hit breakpoint of 80 for rank 3). Then you offered 1, then 18, then 1 again, and finally got to rank 3, where you also get nothing, but the message states that your rank has increased.
@Domo3000
@Domo3000 2 күн бұрын
This is actually just a bug. If you google it you can see other people experiencing the same, with others telling them that it worked for them. For example this Reddit thread: "PSA: Be careful when offering multiple covenant offerings/items at once"
@Domo3000
@Domo3000 2 күн бұрын
Actually you are probably right. Seem like I fell victim to another bug With my first character I paid 30 and then the door didn't open. I used that character to fight her in one clip. I googled and found the reddit post from my previous comment and tried it with another char. In this video I'm using a second char and I assumed that my logic made sense and the door did in fact open. The only bug that is listed on the wiki page is this one: "There is a bug that keeps the shortcut to Lost Izalith sealed after giving the 30 humanities required to open it. Killing a boss will clear it and open the shortcut." So it was probably that and I misattributed it to something else.
@LeemonIsOnYutub
@LeemonIsOnYutub 2 күн бұрын
ds1 runbacks are more forgettable since the bosses are piss easy, with their few exceptions. The first playthrough is always hell tho.
@DarkSouls2_Enjoyer
@DarkSouls2_Enjoyer 2 күн бұрын
18:02 maybe for another video you could do this with every enemy to show off each individual hitbox and whether or not they're broken
@kioken101
@kioken101 2 күн бұрын
6:50 You don't need the ring or even have communicated with her at all, the covenant rank is all that matters. Also for the offering I looked into it cause I never heard of that before, maybe in some old versions you need to offer it in sets, Remastered I offered 30 at once with no issue. Also in the same vain I think it's silly to imagine Sif's runback through not having even the door unlocked, I think if someone only has the first Iron Keep bonfire lit and is still trying to get from the boss from there, they are not even attempting to explore the area.
@fdtnightingale9161
@fdtnightingale9161 2 күн бұрын
In PTD you need to give it 1 by 1 for every covenant😢
@kioken101
@kioken101 2 күн бұрын
@@fdtnightingale9161 Was also the case in DS2, glad they removed that in 3.
@AtreyusNinja
@AtreyusNinja 2 күн бұрын
6:35
@giordanogarduno9207
@giordanogarduno9207 2 күн бұрын
Whats the lesson here? All dark souls run backs are shit, except for ds1 for those are shittier
@joshspinney
@joshspinney 2 күн бұрын
The offering 30 humanity thing all at once is false.
@MakioGoHardio
@MakioGoHardio 2 күн бұрын
Does anyone care anymore tho? Ds2 is better than ds1 but they both kinda suck with the run backs.
@DarkSouls2_Enjoyer
@DarkSouls2_Enjoyer 2 күн бұрын
At least ds2 has bonfires directly outside a lot of bosses
@MakioGoHardio
@MakioGoHardio 2 күн бұрын
@@DarkSouls2_Enjoyer so did ds1.
@DarkSouls2_Enjoyer
@DarkSouls2_Enjoyer 2 күн бұрын
@@MakioGoHardio for which bosses?
@MakioGoHardio
@MakioGoHardio 2 күн бұрын
@@DarkSouls2_Enjoyer first boss in dlc, and gwyndolin.
@DarkSouls2_Enjoyer
@DarkSouls2_Enjoyer 2 күн бұрын
@@MakioGoHardio ah the late game bosses, of course. After the first couple of bosses I stopped playing ds1 because I hated it, so I didn't know about those. But DS2 still does it more often
@viljamtheninja
@viljamtheninja Күн бұрын
AI generated voice, that's a big nope for me.
@kurusuakira6891
@kurusuakira6891 2 күн бұрын
Its again amazing how you trash talk ds1 on purpose so you can somehow make ds2 not seem so bad. So in ds2 its a good thing if you need to find a random shield somewhere and infuse it so you are not fucked up by the runback to the boss and in ds1 its a bad thing, because you need to look up a guide to equip the ring you find in the catacombs which is completly optional and unnecessary, because on the runback you don't encounter a single enemy and again its only a time factor. Time alone doesn't make a runback good. If you encounter difficult enemys everytime, are forced to stop on the way to deal with some statues or need special equipment etc. then its a much worser runback than to run 3 min straight. In general DS1 rewards exploration and if you don't explore then its your own fault, because there is no downside to exploration in ds1. In DS2 even if you find a secret bonfire you sometimes need to pay. So you are only rewarded if you have a good resource management and if you expore.
@TheFusionmix
@TheFusionmix 2 күн бұрын
ai voice...... why
@mehdiraza3563
@mehdiraza3563 2 күн бұрын
you should be banned from giving opinions
@samthepigman4069
@samthepigman4069 2 күн бұрын
Lmfao
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