Worst Levels Ever # 21

[@s0mafaercr3st]

I think Clinger-Winger is the worst tbh because while the the two levels you mentioned previously gave you an idea of what to avoid, this level just gives you only two things: You're being chased down by an advancing disc of doom and if you screw up once, then you're fucked.

[@colonelsandwich641]

I was just about to comment that.

[@paulmeyer9149]

Battletoad in Battlemaniacs has a similar level, but you also have to mash 2 buttons in order to go fast enough. I did this with my brother like a decade ago and I remember when either one of us made a mistake, then we both had to start over.

[@kingknight387]

Its kind of makes me sad that this comment is already 3 years old

[@scootermcpeanuts6699]

King Knight I feel you pardner

[@user-pr6gn2un8z]

@@paulmeyer9149 how's your bro doing rn

[@ryukthedarkrai4259]

I just noticed the rat doesn't get talked about in: "The Fastest Video Game Characters Ever".

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

*Not yet.*

[@shintonbean]

he ran past the list

[@thatonegaminglatias4345]

@@shintonbean I checked your username and you're not a Pokemon. You aren't one of us.

[@shintonbean]

@@thatonegaminglatias4345 of course i am, my game just hasn't been released yet

[@thatrandomguy6146]

@@thatonegaminglatias4345 do i count?

[@theinternetpolice4365]

Remember: If you want all types of gamers to enjoy your game while still making your game hard, just have infinite lives. Then people could memorize the levels easier while the game is still hard but fair.

[@lucasdellamaggiore]

Also some decent checkpoints

[@nicoborken9963]

There is a game genie code that let's you get infinite lives, but I forgor it

[@orangehatretro]

💀

[@PancakemonsterFO4]

Got that one from Edmund Mc Millen?

[@dariogonzalez8989]

Either infinite lives or infinite continues is good for me. It worked for Castlevania, where failure did make you lose some progress without forcing you to eat shit like Battletoads.

[@milkabutterfly]

Turbo Tunnel is even more PAINFUL to play with 2 players, because if one dies the other player "dies" too and it is so rage inducing.

[@theobserver4214]

TheLazyKirby57 Challenge doesn't equal fun. This game is poorly designed and dreadful to go through. Bullshit unfairness around every corner.

[@robotron6420]

@@theobserver4214 SOMETIMES Challenge doesn't equal fun, the major path of the times is fun

[@richardgibson8403]

MilkyDad THE GAME IS LITURLY IMPOSSIBLE IN TWO PLAYER THANKS TO THE SPRIAL THING

[@karierainey4435]

@@theobserver4214 Preach

[@FrangoTraidor]

battletoads for the nes is one of the few games that is actually harder if you play a 2 player game

[@TARINunit9]

Battletoads is the kind of game where they should have just given you unlimited lives by default. Gunstar Heroes, Jak II, Dark Souls, Hollow Knight, plenty of games have unlimited lives and are still plenty hard. Battletoads with its limited lives and LIMITED CONTINUES is just being obtuse

[@IAmTheEagleHTM]

Using infinite lives and infinite continues cheats for this game is more than fair

[@PikaSmasha]

Cuphead as well

[@ShadiC636]

@@PikaSmasha Cuphead is a walk in a park compared to this.

[@PikaSmasha]

@@ShadiC636 Well, I have 300% on Cuphead and got every S-rank so I would know and yeah, it's not that bad.

[@bobstevenson3130]

Battletoads can really only be enjoyed with an infinite lives cheat

[@Kohchu]

I've run through Battletoads several times. Both with and without the infinite lives cheat, and I've beaten it both with it on, and with only the 3 lives and 3 continues you start the game with. At this point, it's actually become one of my favorite games on the NES in a strange love/hate ying yang. I love how satisfying and fun the control and gameplay is; but I hate how fiendish and unforgiving the difficult is. But stepping up to the challenge is part of the fun. Battletoads demands perfection, and that's even in the lore. From my experience: The last few levels all fit flawlessly as the hell spire of difficulty. Turbo Tunnel, Surf City and Volkmire's Inferno are all basically the same concept; just ramped up more and more each time. The Turbo Tunnel is hard, but honestly with a lot of practice; it's pretty easy to plow through it barely hitting anything. Surf City is where I started to lose my patience, since you have to veer around everything since you can't jump in it. And Volkmire's Inferno is just bullet hell the level. Intruder Excluder is the first stage in my opinion that ups the ante; at this point in the game, you might as well not even have a life bar, as everything from here on out basically kills you instantly anyway. Still, with patience and practice; it's pretty easy to learn the places you can stand without getting hit, and how to bypass the gas and fans without getting hit. Terror Tubes is brutally punishing, and mixes terrible swimming controls, with horrid enemies, and tons of instant kill spikes. To this day, it's the only level I consistently struggle on due to the underwater controls being testy at times. Rat Race is really unforgiving, and pretty much requires you to hit Scuz at a certain point to get him stuck into taking longer then usual. If you miss, or he catches up; you've basically lost unless you are lucky enough to be at a part where you can bounce him off the walls a few times. Clinger Winger is actually not as hard as the others, but one mistake can prove fatal; making it a very unforgiving stage. Once you get the hang of it though, it's actually not as hard as people claim it is. The Revolution is brutal if you don't take your time. Full of tricky enemies, and instant kill platforming sections. Approach it cautiously though, and it's much less painful. However, if going in without the Infinite lives code; the thing you will quickly learn to fear the most, is the bosses. Big Blagg, Robo Manus, General Slaughter, the Hypnodisc, and the Dark Queen, can all kill you instantly if they land on you; and can often combo you from full health to death, if they even scratch you once. When doing the game without infinite lives, one bad run against any of these bosses, can see you losing all your lives in seconds. Playing defensively and carefully against them is a must. I dunno if I'd call it the hardest game on the NES; but it is definitely the most fiendishly dickest game on the NES. I'll give Rare Credit, Battletoads was sold to kids, this might as well have been a torture device... it took me about a month to be able to clear it as an adult; due to the amount of practice was needed, I can't even imagine how brutal it must've been for kids who had it growing up. And if you don't know to juggle the birds in stage 2 for extra lives early on; the whole game will be fiendish, unforgiving and humiliating.

[@DeadCatX2]

I had a friend when I was about 10 years old. He and I managed to beat Battletoads, with the exception of Clinger Winger bc we are in the US. We made an executive decision that we would just pretend Clinger Winger didn't exist, and we used Game Genie to warp to the final level and beat it. Brutal is a pretty good word for it.

[@KeeperofKittens]

Looking at later stages makes me glad my childhood self never managed to beat Turbo Tunnels. That kind of trauma as a child requires therapy as an adult.

[@CrazyFriendlyGamerAlex]

Jason H indeed

[@DamnDaimen]

I think I beat turbo tunnels once but lost instantly in the next zone. I tried so fucking hard to git gud at this as a kid.

[@DeadCatX2]

Can confirm. Am adult. Beat every level in Battletoads, except Clinger Winger. Am in therapy.

[@bezoticallyyours83]

Or at least a ton of arthritis medicine

[@coffeebeans5460]

With all of the cheap enemy placements and ridiculous stage structure, would you say Battletoads is a badly-designed game?

[@whoisthisgit]

I'd say it is, but as I said, the reputation of the game makes people frightened to admit it openly. By saying a difficult game might be unfair in any way is apparently showing weakness.

[@coffeebeans5460]

That's understandable. Though, I personally don't think it's that much of a bad thing to call a difficult game unfair when it progressively gets more frustrating. People simply can not call me out for thinking that Clinger-Wringer is so screwed-up. I mean, there's trial-and-error, and then there's making the most unexpected turns with the most perfect precision.

[@calvinanderson4245]

That's exactly why appealing to skilled "gamers" is a problem. You can dismiss every criticism of a game by saying "hurr no u r scrub." #ScrubLife folks, never git gud.

[@whoisthisgit]

Exactly, I'm so fed up with all the unimaginative assholes who say that stuff in response to even the slightest criticism to a game. What's more, it's obvious that they were originally meant to be jokes, but some people used them so often, somewhere along the line, the obnoxious sorts started to think they could be used as legitimate answers to any complaints about games.

[@TheNorilla]

Looking back on Battletoads, it has some really horrible design.

[@GTdba]

Now this is a Game I feel absolutely not Ashamed for using Save States!!

[@arsenetelosnookami]

GTdba 4:56 what if it really said that.

[@Monocheto1]

GTdba i won the ninja gaiden trilogy whithout save states you think i can win this game ?

[@Monocheto1]

btw i played ninja gaiden 3 in japanese because in the us there are few continues

[@GTdba]

Mono Cheto1 Well, Ninja Gaiden is also a very tough Game, so Yes, I think you can do it! Surely, NG is less unfair, in a sense that Battletoads has poor design choices and a lot of glitches. You can do it, but there is no shame in getting many Game Over screens before succeeding.

[@Monocheto1]

GTdba i know but is annoying to get far in the game and if you loose a lot of times play from the beginning maybe i save state at the beginning of every level

[@1Thunderfire]

There's being difficult and there's being plain unfair.

[@DJTigerFox]

I couldn;t help but giggle slightly when you show the slowmo part about 14:04 the warning noise kinda sound like Pingu

[@wyattpeek429]

NOOT NOOT

[@mrsora16]

So this the infamous battletoads game I heard so much about lol wow it sure keeps up to it's reputation

[@CrazyFriendlyGamerAlex]

mrsora16 yea, it's one I couldn't beat as of now along with ghosts'n' goblins

[@Sum1Important]

I don't even understand the thought process with Battletoads e-e Hey look, a beat'em up game that barely even plays like a beat'em up. I mean mechanically it does, but the levels are kind of just... what? Like does it want to be a beat'em up game or... the precursor to I Wanna Be The Guy? I literally have no other way to describe what they were going for.

[@Maestro_Gear]

LutherTheDewott no. I wanna be the guy is easier because of theany checkpoints and good music.

[@Ristarite]

Can you please tell me how _I Wanna Be The Guy_ is easier because of GOOD MUSIC?

[@WhiteFangofWar]

They started out making a beat 'em up but got addicted to vehicle and platforming segments in effort to add variety (something that most beat 'em ups lack). Also, this was in the NES age where it didn't matter how hard your game was. This game would have been a lot less reviled if they'd had level hazards take chunks out of your life instead of instant kill with limited continues.

[@Sum1Important]

I didn't say this was harder than IWBTG :P I was saying it was like IWBTG before IWBTG existed (although the creator does kind of imply that he believes Battletoads NES is harder than his own game)

[@Sum1Important]

That... actually sounds reasonable.

[@john_stromboli]

Battletoads isn't hard, it's demonstrating how living as a human sized frog feels. Edit: when the hell did I comment this lol

[@pearofclubs6280]

Feels bad man

[@NunofYerbizness]

13:45 The warning beeps slowed down sound almost near identical to Pingu saying "Noot-noot"!

[@apersonontheinternet8340]

Nunof Yerbizness My thoughts exactly.

[@coydog7902]

NOOT NOOT!

[@リンゴ酢-b8g]

what language does pingu speak anyway

[@Sonicracer100]

I'll always recommend the genesis or japanese version of Battletoads. Those are games that while still hard, tweaked the level design and enemy placement to make it an actual fun hard game like megaman or castlevania instead of so brutishly hard that they're borderline unplayable. There's still trial and error, but it's much more manageable. Also: 5 lives with 5 continues in the later versions.

[@bennel3588]

I think the Genesis version did a bad sale, but I did want to play the Genesis version, after learning of the level select cheat. The NES version was a pain to me, and I could not get past the Clinger Wringer level.

[@nataliafaila5177]

5:40 even faster than sonic in hyper form

[@329link]

I want to see a really good romhack of battle toads where they just make it a good beat-em-up. Like, everything past level 2 is replaced with levels more akin to level 1.

[@danielotano9956]

Yeah But It Would Be Boring

[@july7498]

@@danielotano9956 Not really

[@danielotano9956]

@@july7498 it would be a standard fighting game though

[@july7498]

@@danielotano9956 so?

[@NoeLPZC]

Play the Battletoads arcade game! It's exactly that... well, kinda. It does have some variety, but not as much as the console games.

[@JohnthePhantom]

whoisthisgit, you're really good at playing this game. I got to the final stage of this game and got killed And lost all my lifes. went back to the start of the game and did everything all over again. to be fair, I agree with what you said in this video. These stages are hard as steel balls because of what the game expects you to do at near perfect moments, and that's BS. now, I don't hate this game, I love this game and it's hard difficulty. P.S. I played the US version.

[@nanidafaq7626]

John the Phantom --- I Hate Google+. he most likely used the infinite lives cheat. it would of been literally hell to even get to Clinger Wringer.

[@CybeastID]

John the Phantom --- I Hate Google+. He was using an infinite lives code, but even WITH that, this game is still a massive pain.

[@JohnthePhantom]

well, i didn't use any cheats myself and played the game as is. still though, he played well. Even if he cheated.

[@theobserver4214]

John the Phantom --- I Hate Google+. the Japanese version is MUCH MUCH EASIER, with more checkpoints and that fucking Tube race stage has checkpoints and is slightly slower

[@SuperArppis]

This is my story of playing Contra on Game Boy. I always lost all my lives at the last boss and had to restart the game.

[@sakura368]

the battletoads pause music is actually pretty catchy, queue AVGN

[@horesfan400]

After seeing this video I can only say one thing: The video game villian level desgin team strikes again! Turbo Tunnle, Clinger Winker, surf city and the plane level were all designed by Otis Rat Race was made by Zaphiel The first 2 levels were designed by Idun

[@horesfan400]

Takumi created the soundtrack

[@GilvaSinner]

Where’s odio?

[@chronosanaki5174]

This kind of monumental shit makes ZUN, the creator of fucking Touhou, look like bed and breakfast! Imagine the kind of chaos that would've fallen on Battletoads if ZUN, were invited to work on it!

[@taylord5381]

The ChronoGamer Show you think touhou is hard? Try radient silvergun

[@chronosanaki5174]

Taylord I've only scratched the surface of bullet hell. I know there's a plenty of other bullet hell games that are even harder than Touhou, but until then I'll stick to what I've got. I've only beaten 2 of the games on Normal so I have a long way to go.

[@enkotsuyoki4344]

6:27 DO'H I MISSED!

[@Andres33AU]

I have never seen any stages past stage 3, and holy heck, how did these developers think people were going to beat this? Lol. It's insane! Ninja Gaiden, another game notorious for its difficulty seems rather tame when compared to this beast of a game!

[@gigaskob1485]

Excellent pick, this level is the reason I haven't beaten the game yet. I can manage to make it to that level, arguably without many problems (assuming I use the warp that lets me skip the stage in which you fly and dodge lasers), but then that same level fucks me up. It doesn't help that the level after that is the one where you ride the wheel and where you're required to have near perfect timing so that the ball chasing you doesn't catch up with you.

[@Dragorosso95]

But, is a game where every level is a "Worst Level Ever"... the Worst Game Ever?

[@ilikecurry2345]

Just because it's hard doesn't mean it's bad.

[@theobserver4214]

The #6 Runaway Guys Fan Yes it can, if the challenge is well designed and fair, then it's great. If it's bullshit design and unfair challenge like Battletoads, than its shit

[@calvinanderson4245]

The #6 Runaway Guys Fan, don't you have a speech to make on how scrubs are "ruining" games?

[@unfortunatelygarbage1531]

+The #6 Runaway Guys Fan A good, fair and hard platformer is something like Super Meat Boy. Battletoads is poorly designed from the base, hard or not. If anything, the shitty design is what makes it hard mostly. Though it's a very old game, so I give a little bit of slack.

[@RealBigDeal22]

Its terrible for most ppl including me. It's not fun at all.

[@skynet0912]

Clinger-Winger has always been my nemesis! Unlike the other extremely hard timing based levels in the game, Clinger-Winger comes up very late in the game. Turbo Tunnel was never that bad for me, as it only takes a few minutes to get back to it for a new chance to learn the pattern, and you will likely have all your lives, a few extra and all your continues at this point, so you get quite a few tries to get good at it... Because Clinger-Winger comes up so late, i'm almost always on my last or second to last continue when i get there, so i only get a few tries at it, and i eventually resorted to mapping it out on a piece of paper to beat it!

[@lincolnmiller4757]

Sonic: I'm the fastest thing alive! Giblet: Hold my Kool-aid.

[@Gamer36046]

the rat race is fucking REDICULOUS. Turbo Tunnel at least becomes a lot easier once you get the muscle memory, but rat race is just absurd with its demands.

[@pentelegomenon1175]

There's a Game Boy port of this game called Ragnarok's World with the difficulty corrected (many devs back then didn't know that you could ruin a game with too much difficulty, they thought it just increased the play time), also the view is zoomed in and the levels are altered a bit for the lower resolution screen (so the game is more arcade-like, and farming lives in the Wookie Hole is much easier), and some of the worst levels are removed (Intruder Excluder, Surf City, Volkmire's Inferno, and Terra Tubes). I played this version a lot when I was little and it is really fun, the Karnath Pit is my favorite level and my least favorite is either Wookie Hole (a little bit boring, especially when farming lives) or Ice Cavern (although it's easy to warp past since Surf City isn't there, and despite its cruel design I still get some enjoyment from it, the music in particular). The game does feel incomplete without Terra Tubes, but the original level was simply too broken to not cut from the game, it was a good call. As for myself, it's no contest, the worst Battletoads level is objectively Volkmire's Inferno. It's basically the Turbo Tunnel but with no understanding of what makes Turbo Tunnel work, or indeed how any level in any game works, its visuals are as repulsive and bland as its gameplay and I can't imagine what possessed Rare to not cut this barely functional waste of imagination from the game before they released it.

[@WhiteFangofWar]

I feel like ProtonJon's 4-Player Battletoads race (go watch it if you haven't, it's one of the funniest things I've ever seen on KZbin and got me into Let's Races) perfectly captures the essence of this game. These guys are professional LPers, and even having infinite lives they still took 3 hours to beat it. There is a moment in Part 5 where Jon thinks that he has beaten Clinger Winger because he is on the finish line but the disc gets him anyway that sounds like he's being killed IRL. So maybe Git's Clinger Winger Theory is closer to the mark than you think? I never got past Turbo Tunnel even as an adult so that's probably my least favourite, but I have to say that Clinger Winger glitch makes me angry. You reward two players managing to coordinate through ten of the hardest levels ever with an unbeatable one? Thankfully, Rare took it down a notch when making Donkey Kong Country and Banjo Kazooie.

[@DeadCatX2]

I recently read that the Clinger Winger 2player glitch in the US version was the result of a timer glitch. When a toad grabs the handlebars, a timer starts counting down. When it expires, the toad begins moving. Unfortunately, player 2's timer doesn't expire until 2 frames after the fuzz ball has already killed him.

[@gsdarkus5014]

After Beating Arctic Caverns and Surf City, if something doesn't kill you in 1 hit, you should make a wish. The level I hate the most is Rat Race

[@Gamesmarts194]

As soon as I saw this, three things immediately popped into my head when I thought "Worst Level": 1. ALL OF THEM 2. Turbo Tunnel 3. Volkmire's Inferno

[@ToxicAce1652]

I dont think the game is bad, it's just poorly designed and unfair. But for absolutely sadistic people this is a wet dream to them.

[@DodgeThisBam]

As someone who played this back in the day Clinger Winger is still my least favorite level. I got stuck there for what feels like years. You think input delay is bad? I got blisters on my finger from pressing the original controllers too hard on that stage. The second I eased up pressing as hard as I could the damn bike slowed down. Maybe my controllers were a bit worn!

[@Tr0lliPop]

Ah yes. BattleToads. The first ever rage game.

[@bezoticallyyours83]

Battletoads is full of all kinds of bullshit I'd never tolerate in other games. And yet something about it is still insanely awesome, even though I've long given up hope of ever beating it. You're certainly no slouch at it, with all your footage. 👏

[@MudFan]

We need The Fastest Characters in Gaming Ever series (probably there's going to be only one episode but whatever)

[@keirontravis]

MudFan the weeb he did it, the madman

[@trollsansofficial]

Turbo tunnel unironically slaps in 2 different ways 1: it slaps your balls 2: the music slaps

[@Hunari]

Goddamit, you have to be some kind of super saiyan-ninja thing to finish Battletoads Thumbs up dude

[@Sleepkirby6472]

4:55 and 6:21 I laughed so hard! I'm surprised professor t. Bird is not a meme!

[@bennel3588]

Did those clips come from a fan-made Battle Toads game? On the 4:55 clip, he's using the f word, which I think none of the real Battle Toads games would use that f word.

[@trollsansofficial]

​@@bennel3588I'm pretty sure they're just edited clips.

[@drnumbnuts656]

Only time in history where the Japanese version is easier.

[@TRJ2241987]

There are actually many games where the Japanese version is easier or more forgiving. This is a misconception that is usually made due to Super Mario Bros 2 being withheld from the US market

[@obotprime339]

If you need more material for Worst Levels Ever, how about Stair Wars from Dynamite Headdy? For me, that level somehow managed to be really annoying AND boring at the same time. And don't forget the Mid-Boss either.

[@razzvyberry4694]

A wish come true

[@orangeapple1686]

In this kind of games you have to try and retry many times just to memorice sections. Its nice when you succeed, but the time and frustration that it takes on the way does the experience not being worthwhile (at least for me). Its good a game sometimes become hard, but this... I usually get bored early. I preffer having fun more than feeling like a god

[@phj9894]

I have mixed feeling with battletoads nes. It has impressive graphics and music, and nice impact on punching the enemies but there's barely any fights and most of them are incredibly frustrating obstacle course with tons of insta deaths.. maybe they wanted to add more variety to the game but i think they went too far. Battletoads arcade is my favorite for focusing on beat'em up, where the game was suppossed to be.

[@kilvasify]

I'm playing Battletoads in Battlemaniacs just to chill back and relax after a stressful day....

[@kstanni87]

This game is truly PUNISHING from start to finish.

[@rogerstokes4577]

I've always hated the space and bike levels in every battle toads game....the most recent battle toads game made everything worse

[@draga_]

I've seen my dad beating this game without using any save states or warps. Also, he says that Turbo Tunnel is not as difficult as they say, and that Volkmire's Inferno is worse, alongside Terra Tubes and Clinger Winger.

[@321gofast7]

Interesting. One thing is for sure now, though. I AM NOT PLAYING BATTLETOADS. I CAN'T EVEN TAKE MARIO!

[@niko9023]

321gofast Because of your avatar, I read your comment like: Intewesting. One thing is fow suwe now, though. I AM NOT PWAYING BATTUWTOADS. I CAN'T EVEN TAKE MAWIO!

[@321gofast7]

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[@niko9023]

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[@321gofast7]

Geometry Dash MegaMan Original, Advance 2, New SuperMario Bros Wii, and New Super Mario Bros 2 on actual Nintendo consoles.

[@siriustheislandprotector9720]

321gofast same

[@ethanciotti554]

I guess there's such a thing as "too much to work with."

[@samspetifore9875]

You're very good, but watching the sheer sadistic punishment that this brutal mess dishes out gave me legitimate anxiety.

[@henrit1902]

want tips on how to play this game? a friend of James on avgn called bootsy went through the entire game piece by piece with exact info on patterns and where to be during levels

[@JNutria]

Oh also a couple of notes. 1. This was when we were kids so we had to figure it all out on our own. No help! 2. Me and my cousin were playing one day. We had game genie which has infinite lives but you still die. We were playing with the level cheat to practice. I accidentally hit the wrong letters. The main codes for levels were as such...iaxlaa an each further level would turn into LAE at the end. I accidentally hit IAXLAE which happened to be the only code without the change in the end..an all of a sudden we were facing the dark queen! We tried at least 8 times when we finally beat her two 10 year olds celebrated like it was the end of the world. We had beat battletoads....then the challenge to do it all with no cheats. Also the warp levels really don’t help since you can’t earn lives that way as working up the levels to earn more so another RARE message to get real. Greatest game for the NES by far.

[@getjinxed101]

I doubt Sonic would be able to win a race with Giblet

[@whirlwind6141]

Rat Race gets my vote a thousand times over. I used to hear that music in 5th grade classrooms in my head - it just kept taunting me ALL DAY until the night i finally got to Clinger Winger stage. From there I beat the game only three days later.

[@bezoticallyyours83]

That's awesome

[@koningkoe]

I beated the game as a kid like 30 years ago several times. I remember every level of it. It was trial and error all the way through.

[@spectrevampire]

Currently playing this game via Rare Replay. You're not kidding about Clinger Winger; feels like I'll never get it right. If I use the D-pad, my thumbs hurt. If I use the analog stick, sometimes it feels like my inputs don't even register. I'm not sure if those arrows on the floor are meant to clue you in on when to change direction. I heard there's a pause trick, but will it work on this version? Spent an hour on Rat Race, and yes, the final sequence is nerve-wracking. Why, on top of everything else, do they block off the last bomb with an electric gate? Yeah, the one thing I want to do when time is of the essence is wait around. One time I punched the rat while on top of the gate, and he flew offscreen. When I kicked the bomb and found I'd soft-locked the game...well, all I can say is, thank goodness for save states.

[@zooms7889]

emulator Clinger Winger is much worse than on the NES because the timing is slightly off

[@bradp1103]

My three most hated from Battletoads: 3. Snake Pit--I just COULD NOT DO THIS for some reason. As a kid this was the level that stumped me(didn't know about the warp). Seems other people don't find it so bad but not me. 2. Arctic Cavern-- Just annoying as shit with so many instant death spikes and slippery floors. Just can't stand. The first real unfun stage the game has imo. 1. Volkmire's inferno--least fun stage in the whole game. Really tough to even see the stupid lightning walls as they come toward you. Even using savestates I had trouble getting through this. It's like turbo tunnel except it looks and plays shittier. Turbo Tunnel I think is a great stage and never found it all that difficult. Like Surf City a lot too--random but nothing too bad. Rat Race I think is awesome, nails frantic+frustrating really well and isn't too hard honestly. Clinger sucks but it can be cheesed by pausing at the corners, so doesn't get to me all that badly.

[@Glacier2030]

I'll be honest. Finally beating the NES Battletoads game after so many attempts, retrying countless times, memorizing every single aspect of the game, and trying to mimic the reaction time of a God. After beating it, I really didn't feel like I accomplished anything. I've played tons of games that gave me a satisfying conclusion for all the effort I've put into it. Blaster Master being one of them. Battletoads was just...it felt like the effort didn't match the accomplishment. I could have gotten that same result of beating a game like any other NES game, but it's Battletoads this time, so....yay? Now I gotta go warp my mind into making up some excuse into finding some coping demeanor after the game was done giving me its own bootleg version of a castration operation, and my reward was a thumbs up and a slap on my ass. Come to think of it, I don't even think 'Immortal' ever treated me that badly....

[@farouqiamin7894]

I remember renting this game from Blockbuster like 5 times and eventually just gave up, I couldn't afford a Game Genie to just cheat it through and my parents didn't want to by any video game magazines cause they thought video games would destroy me somehow...

[@AlacrasEden]

I've beaten ninja gaiden but I'm not even going to bother with this it looks ridiculous.

[@bobjones1783]

if you can beat ninja gaiden 1 on NES I think you can beat this too with enough practice. the difficult is so overhyped with this game.

[@namelastname3126]

Why would one even bother tho

[@brazencoronet17]

Ninja Gaiden isn't that hard. Infinite continues.

[@SenatorArmstrong2018]

Brazencoronet17 Uh huh. Now try beating it without that cheat.

[@memelordteseo5684]

@@SenatorArmstrong2018 Ninja Gaiden gives you infinite continues by default

[@MikeNoob101]

Before dark souls there was Golden Axe Before Golden Axe there was Battletoads Before Battletoads there was Ghosts N Goblins Before Ghost N Goblins there was Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde

[@thebloodyjester8438]

I gave Battletoads a chance, but soon realized I only have fun playing the first two levels.

[@CybeastID]

The rat in Rat Race moves slower in the JP or EU versions.

[@SJtheMFZB]

Battletoads' soundtrack is sick.

[@patcahill3724]

I thought turbo tunnel, terra tubes, and volkmire's inferno were bad, clinger-winger is one the worst levels ever made, but I sure got past it with the help of some trick and rewind. I beat battletoads the first time in my life! It might sound crazy to you that I really had the balls to stand up to it's difficulty?

[@zooms7889]

I don't think Clinger-Winger itself is badly designed, they just made the ball chasing you way too fast, if it moved the same speed as you you'd gain time every time you hit the 3-frame window at a turn rather than having to be frame perfect to STAY ahead

[@patcahill3724]

@@zooms7889 your opinion, I understand what you're saying, but I still hate this level because it pisses me off.

[@SaiyanInTraining]

The only level that got me was clinger winger. Even as a kid I thought the others were fine, but I still can't beat that one level.

[@kaicfer]

if you are talking about co-op, you could do this to every level in this game haha

[@Kaarl_Mills]

For what its worth, its a very nice looking NES game

[@MeowHype]

It looks so good because it was made in 1991 if I remember correctly.

[@karierainey4435]

@@MeowHype wait, what? Why didn't they put it on the super Nintendo?? Would sold better that way since the nes was dead by that time

[@MeowHype]

@@karierainey4435 SNES may have been out at the time, but the NES was still making several new games. It wasn't entirely dead. I'd say it kicked on for a couple more years until the release of Wario's Woods in 1994, which it was made for NES and SNES. The original Metal Slug was made for the NES in 1991 as well, along with the first NES Star Wars game, Action 52, the 4th Mega Man (but only in Japan, US got it in 1992), and Ninja Gaiden 3. Granted, Action 52 and by extension the Japanese version of the first Star Wars game were a piece of shit, but still, saying the system was dead in 1991 is far from true. Battletoads did get an SNES game though, Battlemaniacs, in 1993, so there's that. Maybe they planned on it once they saw the SNES come out.

[@SenatorArmstrong2018]

@@karierainey4435 Capcom released MegaMan 6 on the NES in 1993, about 2 years into the SNES’S lifespan. Heck, they released that game around the time of the first MegaMan X game.

[@リンゴ酢-b8g]

@@SenatorArmstrong2018 considering that the snes was released in 1991, your math is slightly off

[@crimzonshooter]

It's pretty sad that I guessed 2 out of 3 of the stages git would choose (Turbo Tunnels and Volkmire's inferno, to be precise)

[@ajcastelar5173]

Mmm so that's the reason I never be able to beat the game on emulators. I always knew there's something wrong with that disc level

[@patcahill3724]

People who say Dark Souls is the hardest game have never played Battletoads. Trust me, it's harder than Dark Souls.

[@OneTrueBelmont]

You know if your timing is excellent, you can kill the rat at the first rat race section with a headbutt and by doing so, you've actually completed the entire level?

[@bezoticallyyours83]

Really? Cool.

[@snakeeyesD12]

My opinions from playing Battletoads: I have not played ice caves due to the Turbo Tunnel warp, I got through Surf City without dying, Turbo Tunnel and Volkmir's Inferno aren't that bad, the first two levels were rather easy, I hate Rat Race, and I have a grudge against Clinger Winger and it's hypno-wheel. I'm still stuck on that level. It even temporarily broke my Xbox One controller because it wore down the D-pad. Now if you could exuse me, I have a punching bag with a picture of the hypno-wheel on it that is calling me.

[@UnnPcfc]

Molten Volmer l

[@exmaarmaca]

I think that disk is called lollapalooza.

[@zooms7889]

if you beat the ride part of Clinger-winger you'll get to beat the crap out of the orb as the boss fight of the stage, it's SO satisfying

[@jakebrewer7993]

Rare being sneaky the space invaders is the birth of the difficulty curve and this is the start of the difficulty spike

[@Ristarite]

HERE COMES DAT BATTLETOAD! O SHIT TURBO TUNNEL!!

[@spacecowboy4446]

4 ppl thought battletoads was easy

[@misticalinteractive]

or they are SO nerd

[@hgonz14]

This fucking game. I would say level 11 is the worst after all these years I still can't beat it. That gyro bike turns are complete garbage and then the boss at the end is a pain in the ass. I'd do the turbo tunnel again any day over that.

[@marcm3038]

For me the worst one is Terra Tubes. The completely random behaviour of the enemies there drives me crazy. At least the other levels get easier with memorization.

[@BlueEngland]

And you just know that one guy is going to claim he beat all of Battletoads first try.

[@trollsansofficial]

gg 1 att mobile ez -a random GD player

[@protohunters]

I beat this game single player when I was a kid and on a "Hardest Games Ever" binge. I have no idea what drugs I must have been on to not only beat it, but to even put myself through that. This and Ghosts N Goblins on NES are the hardest games that not even From Software will ever top because at least skill can get you through their games for certain while these games were purposefully designed to be total BS for the sake of feeling like you got your money out of an otherwise 2-3 hour game. How do you stretch out a game's play time? Ramp up the difficulty to unfair levels.

[@VonFirflirch]

It's a shame that more often than not, developers would choose bullshit difficulty over legitimate replay-value, through alternate paths, multiple characters, endings and whatnot. Then again, I suppose technical limitations were at play sometimes.

[@Luigiofthegods]

VonFirflirch That was kinda just the usual thought process when video games were in their infancy. No one really knew at the time that making a game difficult through bullshit rather than challenge was a terrible idea; that's how we got The Lost Levels.

[@VonFirflirch]

True. Although, I don't remember Lost Levels being that bullshit, it's been a while, though.

[@Snooty4835]

as someone who actually beat this game without warps (didn’t know it had warps when i beat it) my least favorite level is… all of them. i had to play every level so many f*cking times its not even funny

[@NotHappernot]

I want anyone in this to name a single game that is both easy, and has ice physics

[@mariannmariann2052]

SMB2 or SMB3, maybe?

[@bezoticallyyours83]

The Little Mermaid can be beaten in roughly an hour and has an ice stage.

[@JumboWumbo101]

I've been waiting for another one of these like forever.

[@medusathedecepticon]

I can see a lot of good quality to the game but think that more than one of the development team should have play tested it. Good music good character design good graphics but shocking difficulty curve CX

[@DAVID4GAMER]

The snake platform level is pure fucking kaizo!, even with savestates, those motherfuckers go at match 40!

[@MasterKnightDH]

Yeah, that's the problem with Karnath's Lair: it's trial-and-error bullshit by innate design. I think Rat Race is still the worst, but Karnath's Lair is a close enough second.

[@bcs9000]

The Rat Race level on the crappy Genesis version is much worse, you are even unable to kick the rat

[@TheR3DSniper]

By far the worst level in Battletoads is Clinger-Winger. Fuck that level.

[@melanielagasse3624]

This game goes perfect with game genie

[@chaseman94]

16:29 - so 2 players can't complete this level together at all?

[@hdckighfkvhvgmk]

Correct, the only option player two has is by losing all of their lives, waiting for player 1 to beat the stage, then using a continue to join back in the next level.

[@chaseman94]

@@hdckighfkvhvgmk Ok thank you. Me and my cousin always thought it was glitch caused by the Game Genie cheat device for NES when you enter the code to start on that level.

[@diegorojas2049]

At least the title theme of the game is pretty nice

[@daemonizer3518]

Good god. My cousin told me about how this was the hardest game he ever played. I feel bad for doubting him.

[@bobstevenson3130]

So I’ve been playing Battletoads ever since my sophomore year of high school and I’ve gotten really good at it over the years. Easily the worst level in the game would be Terra Tubes. It’s long, frustrating, several sections are entirely memorization, and other sections, especially the ones towards the end, rely on a significant amount of luck to make it through because the enemies (read: goldfish) are unpredictable and literally impossible to dodge.

[@ricardoj376]

"That you only have to make one mistake and a figuratively disc of dead will cut you in half?" Two games: Advance Wars and Fire Emblem. Also racing games

[@Predator20357]

Battletoads, a game among many others that proves that hard doesn't equal good.

[@Faapu]

This type of shit is why I mostly only play Battletoads & Double Dragon and the arcade game in this series. All the other games are really mean.

[@chaseman94]

Battletoads Double Dragon on NES was more forgiving difficulty wise not so much for the Super NES game Battletoads in Battlemaniacs it's difficulty is the same or worse. But I would pick this up and play it in a heartbeat difficulty be damned. My cousin got this game for Christmas in 1991 and we both got Game Genies which fortunately had cheats for it so we were able to explore and practice every level in this game to our hearts content.

[@bezoticallyyours83]

Agreed

[@PancakemonsterFO4]

6:17 THEY DID THE STUPID KICK DELAY ON PURPOSE I SWEAR

[@pkmntrainerred4247]

Battletoads should've had the subtitle of Pick your poison: The game