Worth the $2,400 Extra? xTool F1 Ultra Review

[@makeorbreakshop]

Check out the xTool F1 Ultra (and save a little money) with my link -> geni.us/xtoolf1ultra

[@NoMaam]

Doesnt work - says not valid

[@LanceMcGrew]

Good grief - you ever count how many words you say in a video? And not miss a beat. Truly amazing.

[@cameronbailey9156]

I watch videos on 1.25 or 1.5 cause limited time to soak information so gotta speed it up. So even crazier hearing it like that

[@makeorbreakshop]

Ha if only you could see what it’s like when I don’t go back and edit…

[@stvcolwill]

DEFINITELY want to add that this works with the RA2 Rotary. also, a lot of people run the blue laser for the initial pass on a tumbler, then run the IR as a clean up pass to result in much shinier and brighter finish.

[@ChadsCustomCreations]

Hey Brandon great video, just a correction to note at 12:40 it does have a door safety switch and you can toggle it off or on inside the settings.

[@makeorbreakshop]

Yeh thanks, now realizing I totally missed that.

[@digitaldoom3593]

Mine is being delivered tomorrow cant wait...

[@bclp52]

How are you liking your f1?

[@owdoco5657]

Help! Got Xtool F1 ultra. When I Frame on a product the framing is in the correct position. But the finished lettering has moved below the framing box. Any help would be appreciated

[@shlubbert3355]

Really hope they can keep upping the wattage for their fiber lineup! I love the form factor but 20W is still pretty low-end, especially for this price. 50W would make deep engraving jobs so much faster and open up much more cutting possibilities.

[@MindyWang-v3w]

Why not try specific fiber laser

[@chrishubby1838]

Can the F1 or F1 ultra engrave on gold plated stainless steel? I'm looking to engrave photos, such as portraits of people, on gold plated necklace pendants. Which would you recommend for this use case? Thank you in advance!

[@petgoodsshop]

How effective is the X ultra on a disk the size of a nickel that detailed? Thanks.

[@jrulison]

Would like to see you compare this to a standard fiber laser.

[@makeorbreakshop]

Coming soon, now that we are a good number of the desktop all in one style fiber units I need to compare them.

[@Pralix2000]

I have the F1 and like it. The Ultra is just too expensive for what it is. I can get a 50w MOPA integrated fiber laser from OMTech for around $2500 right now. I may lose some work area but power would be more important on what you can engrave. Even the LP5 is a bit cheaper.

[@CaptCorpMURICA]

The main benefit of the Ultra is the combination of fiber and diode in one machine. The MOPA fiber laser from OMTech is a great machine if you only need to engrave metal. Yes, the fiber isn’t as powerful, but it’s mostly the convenience of having both in a single package. It’s a Jack of all trades machine, so it does everything mediocrely.

[@cliffart7398]

with the conveyer, air purifier and rotary its over $5,000. I ordered mine yesterday. Sad I have to wait until the end of July for it to ship. I have a lot of plans for this machine.

[@ashleyjones9928]

I hope you have so much fun and success!

[@AwesomeCopper]

Just ordered same kit on Amazon. Had a 1700 discount and is supposed to arrive tomorrow. Hopefully the usual Amazon guy doesn’t just throw it out the truck door like he normally does 😮

[@justinbanks2380]

Had no idea you could do that type of relief on slate! 🤯 Is that using the fiber or blue diode? I just bought a 30w LaserMatic mk2, would love to be able to do something like those reliefs, even if not as deep

[@justinbanks2380]

Would love to see a video or even just a short explanation of how you can get that type of effect on slate. I searched for some tutorials online, and all I found was engraving pictures on the surface (which is cool, yet not what you showed) perhaps I'm searching the wrong term? (Searched for making bas reliefs on slate with laser, and similar permutations)

[@thenightninja13]

@@justinbanks2380 embossing is the term xtool uses

[@makeorbreakshop]

It’s using the fiber

[@Tarbard]

@@justinbanks2380 try searching for 2.5d fiber laser engraving

[@mixedpopcornproductions9692]

There’s another machine coming from Xtool soon and I’m excited to see what their multifunctional craft machine is like. I don’t feel I have come across a machine for my craft needs so 🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾

[@makeorbreakshop]

Just finished testing it out, it's pretty sweet!

[@mixedpopcornproductions9692]

😱😱 stop!! Now I'm really excited. Your reviews are great and can't wait to see your take on the new machine.

[@bones549]

does it have the capability to do round surfaces i.e. cups?

[@Adriel59]

I want to get a co2 laser but am put off by the size for engraving metal cards. would this be a better alternative?

[@TheExtremeElementz]

Yes it would do a better job, but so would the F1 (normal). Also something not discussed here is the fact there are no safety features that stop the laser when the case is open classifies this as a Class 4 laser.

[@Adriel59]

@TheExtremeElementz thanks, I want to do some custom mtg metal cards and this looked like a great idea

[@TheExtremeElementz]

@@Adriel59 That would be pretty dope. If you’re not going for deep engraving like the example coins he showed off the F1 normal would do an excellent job at much less cost than the Ultra. But then again an S1 10w + IR Laser would be more versatile for almost the same cost. With the S1 you’d have to swap the laser module when wanting to use IR vs 10w and yes it wouldn’t print as fast considering it’s not a galvo BUT the option to do more larger projects later might be appealing. Choices… choices. Goodluck!

[@Adriel59]

@TheExtremeElementz I hear ya. On one hand though. I like how nice it looks like when it has deep the engraving

[@thenightninja13]

@@TheExtremeElementz He does mention there isn't a switch for the case.

[@photonashville]

$4K is a bit much. Don't hear much positive comments about xTool customer service.

[@jeremydillon4385]

I’ve always had help whenever needed! We even had a fan break on our 40w s1 & they sent me brand new $1,500 laser head no questions asked. After that experience I have no interest in any other laser brands other than Xtool. The only other laser I’d buy that isn’t Xtool is a large scale 36x48 but that’s only because they haven’t offered it yet!

[@lucyandethel1]

I have found they’ve always answered my emails quickly

[@josephsinclair1338]

Often everything you read online is people complaining about anything they don’t like. People who are happy don’t generally express that online, unless physically asked their opinion.

[@jppalm3944]

It sucks. Xtool a marketing company. Had plenty of profit to establish better USA English support. Days and weeks for replies.

[@paulveenstra6305]

Do you think the Ultra do a good job at laser engraving guns? From research they say 20 to 50w can do the job. I am seriously buying one of these and been looking at the bundle of the P2S and the F1 Ultra package. I currently have 2 D1 pro 20w systems one is set up normally and the other one is set up as the extension. I think by adding these 2 new lasers would really help in the shop and be able take the Ultra to shows on the weekends and add customization at shows to improve sells. Like to hear your thoughts and opinions. Enjoy watching your videos keep up the good work.

[@makeorbreakshop]

The Ultra would do a good job at gun engraving. It’s not the easiest the move around but could totally work at a show especially if you had help.

[@paulveenstra6305]

@@makeorbreakshop Figured mount on a cart so I can wheel out of a trailer or van with a ramp.

[@makeorbreakshop]

Oh great idea!

[@rcarroll05]

There is a software toggle in XCS to turn on and off the shield safety. So if the shield is up it will turn the laser off.

[@makeorbreakshop]

oh shoot, should have double checked it before talking about it, thanks for mentioning it!

[@pushthebutton4602]

How long will this laser last if you use it 8 hours a day?

[@anilgoud204]

They had to replace my xTool f1 machine as the infra red light disappeared after three weeks, unfortunately even the replaced machine also having the same problem. Upon my research what I found is should not buy dual lasers.

[@pistonslapuk]

Hey Brandon, what size is the exhaust outlet on the back of the machine please?

[@makeorbreakshop]

3 in

[@pistonslapuk]

@@makeorbreakshop thank you so much for that!

[@gear_ant]

Can i install an xy bed on the f1 ultra?

[@GeekBuildersNet]

Interested to hear your take on the Ultra. Also, do you think its worth it for xTool to keep the F1 Prime when the Ultra Exists?

[@makeorbreakshop]

For the F1 Prime do you mean the original F1? If so, totally that form factor is perfect for smaller stuff and being portable. It would be nice if the could up the wattage on the fiber to at least 5W/10W though, not sure how that would impact the size.

[@GeekBuildersNet]

@@makeorbreakshop Got it… Thanks

[@imranarshad7302]

Would the F1 Ultra be good for engraving rocks, stones and woods too?

[@makeorbreakshop]

Yep, the IR laser is great for rocks and stones. For wood it has a diode laser as well.

[@imranarshad7302]

@@makeorbreakshop Would you recommend it over the P2?

[@louisebmedia]

They need to make one thats in between them to in size but has the power as the ultra

[@sblack48]

Can it engrave ferrous metals?

[@Mdub_actual]

Also curious

[@AquaFreak]

I cant make up my mind about the F1 ultra or the P2... love the fast engraving features on the F1 but also want to cut out wood/acrylic

[@makeorbreakshop]

If you don’t really need to do metal then I would go with P2

[@JoelC-pp4zz]

The F1 uses 2watt infrared not a fiber laser only the F1 ultra uses a fiber laser

[@monportlaser]

Hi @makeorbreakshop , when can you review Monport GI60 laser?

[@colinikeocampbell1091]

043 Rice Mountain

[@LazersEdgeDesigns]

No air assist, then you immediately put the plate on the ultra the wrong way. 🤦

[@makeorbreakshop]

It can work any direction, but having the grooves heading towards the back exhaust could help some but still won't fix the issue of air assist on top during cuting.

[@BrentLeVasseur]

How is it for tattoo art? Stick your arm in there for a test?😂

[@makeorbreakshop]

Would make for a great KZbin thumbnail 🤔

[@manjsher3094]

Nope