Worth Upgrading? - 32GB to 64GB RAM - Byte Size Tech

[@HeyitzSnoop]

I’ve been following Tech since 2016 first pc I built i5 6600k 16gb ram his recommendation for gaming. He eventually started recommending the I7 and 32gb of ram I did that 2017-2019. 2020 recommends 64gb ram I did that and it’s noticeable. I’ve never bought something Tech recommended and thought what a waste of money.

[@TurkishKatil]

Some of his recommendations are bad. He used to recommend 6600k. If you got a 6800k it wouldve lasted you much much longer. Like until 2022 with OC.

[@apoconkbm]

64 gigs is for those who like to do multiple tasking while playing games and or for editing purposes

[@TurkishKatil]

@@apoconkbm im not saying 64 is a bad advice. It’s a good one. But other advices are inconsistent or bad. E.g. he talks about how a 12 core cpu will run games 3 years later much better but when asked about future proofing he says upgrade less build more. Well why get a 12 core cpu if ull only use it for 3-4 years? 8 core cpu will be good. Get 12 cores if ull use it for 5-6 years and upgrade the gpu after 2-3 years. Old but high-end cpus still run fine today, even a 6800k runs almost as good as a 5600x.

[@Irricas]

In what game is having 64GB noticeable? I don't recall reading the system requirements for any game that recommends more then 12GB of RAM. Are all those game developers wrong? I don't think so. If you look at the Stats Valve makes available on its hardware survey, 90% of gamers have 16GB or less of RAM. Are all those games wrong? No. Without evidence to back up Byte Size Tech's opinion you have to exclude it as an outlier. Do we all want 64GB of RAM? Sure. Very few of us actually need it.

[@jatus7224]

@@Irricas where do u live that 12gb of ram us used on games bc I want to move over there. Idk if u heard of new games that recommends 16 gb of ram. Also he said that most people do not NEED 64 it's for the people that are premium. I feel like u just watch the title and u came down here to put ur statement. Watch the video first then start talking.

[@nighthawkvc25a]

"Your computer serves YOU" ...it feels like listening to a motivational speaker or being at church 😂

[@arencorparencorp2189]

@@tattoomaniacsalina that's the purpose of hdds nowdays heh, cheap bulk storage

[@noscopedez]

Honestly tho

[@MindFullCheeseburger]

This video was a religious experience I'm upgrading to 64

[@DeathStriker88]

Holy Computer! 🤣🤣🤣

[@DJHayyoo]

I went from 16GB to 64GB of RAM, and it's been such a game-changer for my new desktop(built in October). Allows me to open so many VSTs, Samples in FL Studio when working on productions. For gaming/streaming I can load up all of my side apps for streaming and games without any worry. Never going back lol

[@theorignalmartian1261]

If it’s such an improvement for you it’ll definitely be worth it for me cause I’m only running on 8GB.

[@willgottfried9066]

No it is only useful for people who render and use it for professional use. You are a gamer streamer/multitasker 32 gigs is all you need in fact you could probably get by with 16

[@thethiccdonut5257]

@@willgottfried9066 I'm a heavy gamer and keep many apps open and I never go past 50% usage. I have 32GB RAM clocked at 3600MHz. 2 of my friends stream regularly and get by with 16. The only ppl that need 64GB+ are ppl like the snob in the video that have terrible app management on such an extreme level.

[@PuipinM]

@@willgottfried9066 when doing orchestral programming or music production, 64+ gb is very useful. A single flute VST, legato and loaded with all articulations, can be like 4gb alone... Imagine an orchestral template a lot of instruments loaded! BBC SO, everything loaded, runs nice on 64+ but isn't possible on 32.

[@A_Class216]

I have 32gb of ram. I'm a producer as well who uses fl and a BUNCH of vst's. I built my pc last year and have been debating should I add a additional 32gb.

[@testosteroneinc.3800]

So with 64gb of ram, I could finally run Notepad and Doom 93 at the same time?😎

[@ByteSizeTech]

Yep!

[@CSTLDraenei]

🤣🤣🤣WHAT AN UPGRADE

[@asdf51501]

Yeppers.

[@TopOtheMorntoya]

Pushing it there....

[@simransidhu617]

@@TopOtheMorntoya 🤣😅🤣

[@brokenbones827]

“You haven’t lived til you go 100% ssd” I’ll never go back. Ever. HDD is dead to me.

[@idealrunner5043]

Same man, considering how cheap SSD’s are now there’s really no reason to.

[@xgxfhzxfuhfjgfhgf]

worst about hdds is that windows never put them to rest and spins them all the time

[@brokenbones827]

@@xgxfhzxfuhfjgfhgf facts

[@Ruby_Mochii]

Wouldn't HDDs be much slower if it has to constantly ramp up to speed just to find files you randomly thought of bringing up? I mean, it doesn't know when you're going to pull out a file so it just always spinning for standby. Performance reasons?

[@davepianist84]

Ssd's are still expensive to have only those, there's way better to have a mixed storage, so one can use Hdds in games that load fast enough, one keep a few in the sdds that require /benefit from it

[@WarbirdPhoenix]

In short 16gb is good for minimum,32gb is good for most pc users,and 64gb is for those who want the best performance while future proofing their equipment. Seems to be a fair assestment.

[@engjds]

Not sure about future proofing, memory speeds increasing every year, upgrading motherboard usually means upgrading memory.

[@Cloudmaster1511]

i had 16gb now since 4gb were the minimum for windows 7 back then. and for 2-3 years now it is REALLY bottlenecking everything i do. yesterday i ordered a 2x32GB pack of factory new Ram :D time to get back into the glorius masterrace space

[@RecklessFables]

This guy should sell Meth. He's very convincing in getting people to go for something they know they shouldn't do.

[@MikeEvans965]

Meth sells itself, his talent would be wasted.

[@AGOR2]

True

[@crazywyvern4704]

I like my games running slow, gives me time to do things

[@jihadjoe4957]

Just play turn based games. You will have all time you ever need.

[@testosteroneinc.3800]

Poor mans cheat hack... Run game game at 10fps, dodge bullets like Neo😂

[@butifarras]

Lmao, I used to play civ 4 on a giant map in my old crappy core i3 5500u laptop. 5+ minutes after ending turn

[@endeliggnist5066]

I like letting my CPU run hot, I can cook breakfast that way.

[@Haddley333]

I like my 4mb download speed dsl. It gives me time to do things too

[@Flavortown_69]

In 2015 I built a system with 8GB of RAM because that was “all you need for gaming”. A few years later, when 8GB wasn’t enough, I realized that the price of upgrading was almost the same as if I had added more RAM at the start. The lesson I learned with RAM was to just take people recommend and double it. The system I just built has 64GB and I’m totally happy.

[@Solvargen]

I upgraded to 32 Gb from 16 Gb now when the memory prices are low. When it is time for me to upgrade to higher capacity, it´s probably time to upgrade to ddr5 anyway.

[@briansoberanes3705]

I did the same thing but from 8 Gb to 32 Gb lol

[@jpogigtxcr1778]

Me too, I was convinced that 16gb was enough. But I had extra $$ so I thought... why the heck, I’ll get another set of 8gb and go to 34gb even though I really don’t need it. And I’m satisfied. Specially after this video.

[@dom_m7879]

@@briansoberanes3705 Damn i couldnt have been playing any of my games with only 8gbs since 3 years or so haha When did you upgrade?

[@C0d0ps]

Ddr5 won't be at consumer prices for 2 years or more. They will be expensive and have bugs when they come out

[@jpogigtxcr1778]

Zoran No but I have extra money and extra slot. And also I have nvme drive and having a large room of free minimizes the ssd being accessed by cashing, prolonging its life. It also makes my 1% lows better. That means smoother play for competitive first person shooter

[@ThatRandomFastingGuy]

I moved to 64GB at 3600MHz last year during lockdown and I will never, ever go lower than that ever again. The difference between 32 and 64 is night and day.

[@Bllueee]

i cant find a 64gb 3600mhz thats c16, i can only find c18. what do you think about case latency?

[@matthewstoch8670]

"If I wanted things to run poorly, I'd get a console." -Tech 06:44 lol, shots fired indeed my friend

[@jjdawg9918]

My philosophy is to never "upgrade" memory but rather to "add" memory. Put the highest density sticks you can buy/afford into 2 slots and save the other 2 for ADDING memory in the future if you need it. It has saved me the remorse of having to discard or try to resell old memory.

[@RaaNgee]

I just ordered 32 gig ram so I have a total of 64. Was a little hesitant about this so tried to find motivation for the purchase and thank you so much for this. It feels much better now

[@philippefischer7324]

Same here 🤣

[@SamJustSaying]

I just went from 32 to 64 and it was so worth it. I can see a GOOD performance difference in all my processes, applications and games, and of course the aesthetic 😉

[@prominentshots7858]

Thank you for sharing, I’m upgrading my 32 gb of ram to 64. I game and stream with the same pc. I’m hoping this will help make everything smoother.

[@Timoxi80]

Placebo..no difference.

[@hishammse8826]

I’m upgrading from 32b ram to 96gb ram so hyped to see the difference 😅🔥

[@helltioeverygames]

Only open more things without any issue mate,32gb is ok for me but for now of course,i use after effects but not much just a new things,i do use vegas pro very often that is the program i use for my videos,also yeah sometimes you use alt+tab when something is wrong while your gaming,such as mic level or game level volume,in that case the latest el gato stream deck comes in handy,sorry for my english im from argentina and it´s my basic one XD.

[@tuurekeranen1771]

I still have unnecessary habits from old computers. Having both Discord and the game running simultaneously is amazing to me. I am finally in a position that I can kick in new parts and more oomph if needed, and I am loving the lavish life of having two screens running different programs. Truly, the computer should serve you, not the other way around.

[@BenL0nd0n]

I decided to go with 32 GB instead of 64 GB for my new higher-end PC build, never really considered going to 64 TBH. I never leave a lot of tasks open, I got a weird case of OCD where I always want all windows closed, same on my iPhone. I do have a large amount of tray icons, running a lot of Asus and Corsair software bloat. It doesn't take up that much RAM. When I play Cyberpunk 2077 on my TV (2nd monitor) in 4K maxed settings, it all goes up to about 12 GB. The only time I ever see high RAM usage is when rendering in After Effects, but I don't do that on a daily basis. It was more important to me to get low-latency G.Skill 3600 MHz RAM and I don't think it would have only been 100 bucks more to go up to 64, especially at the moment with the inflated prices and stock issues. With regards to SSD, I couldn't agree more and this week put a second 1TB M.2 PCIE4 on the motherboard (Corsair MP600 with heatsink) - absolutely loving it!

[@thecoolcarhd4402]

64 gb is overkill

[@thethiccdonut5257]

I leave hella shit open cuz sometimes I just forget to close out of stuff and I've never used more than 50% of my 32GB clocked at 3600MHz. I also agree that having less of high quality RAM (3200 MHz+) is better than more of industry standard mediocre RAM.

[@thethiccdonut5257]

@@thecoolcarhd4402 Ye, even many content creators can get by on 32GB. The average consumer needs more like 16GB, 32GB just gives some more wiggle room.

[@quann06]

SSD made my PC much more enjoyable.

[@dimuthu_weerathunga]

6:25 The moment I realized Tech should run for presidency!

[@ryanisacuc8381]

This video totally changed my opinion of your channel. I used to box your channel into just a place to find the cheapest logical pc parts for your build. But this opened my eyes to a lot of things and was an amazing break down of the question you can’t get from any other pc youtuber out there. Ask Linus: “why only 64gb? Let’s just see what we can do with 5TB of RAM!”, Jay two cents would say “well everyone says you only need 32GB”, Steve at gamers nexus would scoff at the question and give some angry nerd remark to make you feel stupid for having asked the question. Thank you

[@yeetwchybaban]

Heh

[@2FICGamingHD]

This has helped me tremendously. I use 32gb RAM, 4 monitors 1080p and while streaming I have numerous chrome tabs open, obs and various streaming tools and I was about to upgrade my whole system I am just going to upgrade my RAM and see how things work out. Appreciate the detailed explanation of RAM that Yes most big tech tubers seem to leave out. They think all streamers just have 2 monitors with 1 chrome window and a game on while streaming but not ME lol thank you again

[@slumy8195]

having more ram is like having a huge 4 door suv with 3 rows of seats. No need to buy a new car aka pc build

[@sxlx]

At the start of this video I had 64 GB of RAM. By the end of this video I had 2000 GB of RAM. Thank you @ByteSizeTech for the recommendation! My Minecraft client runs super smooth now.

[@mikeramos91]

Just upgraded to 32gb. I just do gaming & multitasking. There was a small but noticeable difference going from 16gb to 32gb. Don’t think I’ll get that same feeling going to 64gb. If you play new games/multitask, I definitely would recommend 32gb!

[@micobugija6284]

I was the one that asked, while gaming l have 2 browsers open with 100 tabs each, discord, teamspeak, some background tabs and l used to have 16GB... HUGE difference. Now, lm usually at at least 22GB to 27GB used 😐 So yeah, Tech is right, 32GB is ideal

[@MartGameFails]

Yes 32gb is the 16 gb of this generation, remember when 8gb was enough for gaming? well now 16gb is enough for gaming, if you do something else then 32gb is the sweetspot, the fact that tech felt 64gb is better, that's not a fact that's and anecdote. Having 64gb just for gaming that's stupid. plain, stupid.

[@mikeramos91]

@@MartGameFails yea 64gb I don’t think we’re there yet

[@NexY92]

32 is new 16

[@Sondisberg]

@@micobugija6284 Is this sarcasm? Who has 200 tabs open that's beyond insanity.

[@wolfshanze5980]

Heck, I just upgraded from 16GB to 32GB because of your channel... now i've used up all 4 memory slots... don't go pushing me to 64GB! ;-)

[@andrewmaughan1205]

While doing research on parts for a new PC build for my GF, we decided to go with 64gb of RAM over 32gb of the same speed because it was only $20 more.

[@dend1]

Interesting, going from 32 to 64 would have cost me an extra 300 at my speed

[@FeniksGaming]

City Skylines with Mods alone can eat all the RAM in whole world. If I was buying today I would go for 64 but I already have 4x8. Nex upgrade when DDR 5 drops and will max out my ram then fully.

[@Kisame663]

If I get my hands on a 3900x or a 5900x, I'm definitely going with at least 32 gb. 64 gb would come at a later date

[@focused353]

Ha, thats what I did. 5900x when it was 25% off. 32GB of ram 16 per stick. Now I am considering if I should upgrade to 64GB. But it only costs me $125 to upgrade to 64GB and it is tempting me! :-) I totally do not need it though.

[@MustachedDadGaming]

For me as a content creator, its all about peace of mind: I never want to feel like im under pressure during a stream. I do everything on the pc: stream, play, have chat pulled up, etc.

[@Jarmanreich]

I have the cheapest 3200Mhz 64GB of RAM G.SKILL Aegis and I never want to go back to less. It's cheap enough to just enjoy the bump from 32GB to 64GB and not worry about spending too much money.

[@Iridiumcosmos]

RAM and storage are the two things I like to go overkill on. Even with a few tabs open in Firefox, Discord, EA Play, Forza, and Steam open. I’m at about 16 GB of my 32 GB of RAM being used. Windows 11 once it starts up takes up 5 GB of RAM alone so I find it hilarious when people still recommend 16.

[@AG-bp3ll]

I have heard people trying to make this arguement. I run multiple monitors in my gaming setup and I have rarely gone above 16 GB of RAM utilization. I think 32GB is worth it, but 64 is really not needed unless you are editing video, doing content creation or have a ludicrous amount of crap running on your PC. Crap you shouldn't have running while gaming anyway. RAM is affordable, but that $100 in RAM cost is much better spent on your video card if your budget is tight.

[@ByteSizeTech]

One person's "ludicrous amount of crap" is another person's normal. :)

[@michaeltrivette1728]

DCS World and MFS2020 says hi.

[@AG-bp3ll]

@@michaeltrivette1728 I play Flight Sim all the time with 32 gigs of Ram and it runs fine. Nothing has changed a year later. 64 gigs of Ram is overkill for the majority of gamers that aren't streaming. Invest that Ram money in a better graphics card.

[@billygames7107]

Good, I don’t feel bad about my extra 32 gigs on the way. 64 total in a day or two. I use two monitors and multitask all day. Love to has browsers open while gaming. Can’t wait. 32 is sweet spot, 64 is future proofing. Cheers

[@hamichtoh38]

Thanks for saying this, sick of everyone saying 32 gb is enough lol.

[@losingmyfavoritegame8752]

I actually just upgraded my gaming PC to 32 gigs. I cannot agree with you more, build the computer so that it works around you! I can keep my tabs open and switch between games and I also have reduced the CAS from 18 to 16 and adjusted the sub timings and everything is absolutely amazing! I can shuffle between programs like never before and it is just amazing! 32 is my sweet spot!

[@markotto1767]

"my computer must serve me !" U R perfect, man, i love your point of view. Yes, in 2021 we all have more ram at lowest price (maybe not in this exactly moment, but...) and overall al lot of cores that games can't use, and so, you opinion is the same as mine. iit's a pleasure listening to you !!

[@Stardxst0]

The first 3 mins of this video is you making me feel like my gaming pc is shit. Lmao. Love your content bro!

[@Kuroganemk2]

I'd get 32 gb and spend the rest on a larger SSD instead.

[@captainahab010]

You are brok! Dont buy a PC

[@Kuroganemk2]

@@captainahab010 32gb of ram is more than enough lol. What are you smoking?

[@AG-bp3ll]

Great advice. You are going to get much better value out of that money by putting it into a video card or SSD. 99% of gamers will never notice the difference between 32GB and 64GB of RAM. Tech Deals used to give great advice on how to maximize your money on a PC build. Now, all I hear this guy talk about is building a PC with an unlimited budget most people don't have.

[@Kuroganemk2]

@@AG-bp3ll Yeah, I'm currently on a 1 monitor 1080p setup at 16gb ram. Not sure how he uses up all that ram in the first place, does he have like 50 chrome tabs open all the time? Along with 2 games? Where is that ram going towards...

[@Uri_Nrv]

"I don't want to have to close something" best argument.

[@DarkWraith95]

Agree with the ram upgrade. I used to play games and perform certain tasks at the same time all with just 16 GBs of ram. System would slow every now and then or browser tabs would take a short time to load as well. About two months ago I was able to build the system that I have been wanting to build which included 32 GBs of ram. At this point, I will not go back to 16 GB. Everything is much more smoother and programs load so much quicker. My expectations have been met and yet surpassed by doing so. I will not go back to the experience I had before. Each users experience is different but by doing this it has worked for the better with my daily use case. My next venture is to save up for a newer system with 32/64 GB ram and go all SSD.

[@PuipinM]

Please note: Showing RAM utilization on a system with 64gb of ram doesn't accurately represent ram usage on lower-end PCs. If you have more ram, your PC will spread out load a bit more and utilize more. For instance, I just upgraded from 16 to 64 gb of ram. I use 11gb while running a program that otherwise would have been 8gb

[@Sail17]

thank you for this. i just bought 64gb and found this video wondering if i bought too much. i remember a time when ram was $2 per MB

[@michaelmcconnell7302]

i went from 16 to 32 just for the asthetic. 4 DIMMs look better than 2 and a glass side panel had me looking at empty slots begging to be filled...

[@michaelmcconnell7302]

That said I'm 110% satisfied and looking to grab 2x32gb next week 😅

[@tyonorshapzc7tjfvb7-caz]

pff, running quadchannel bro, means im on 8 clots, 4 on each side, this even more nicer to look at ;D hehe so sick cuz itz the most symetrical on a mobo you can get ^^

[@glennholmes724]

Before watching the video: "Nice, a new Tech video to make me feel good about my extravagant spending." Watching the video: "Wait, what, I need to spend more???"

[@C0d0ps]

I have no regrets getting 32gb ram for gaming and multitasking. Yes I stream but not often It doesn't cost a lot to get another 16gb ram just try it out especially if you get ram error in call of duty games. Those games spike in ram usage a lot.

[@TIW4NA]

This guy is Jordan Belfort of selling ram. He made me believe that Ram is so important that I am thinking to install ram in everything which works slow from washing machine to my car. And I don't care it works or not. This man made me do that.

[@deeber3960]

It’s only now, after years, that I find out that Tech and Rogue play Star Wars: The Old Republic. Learn something new every day. :)

[@mikecheck1229]

I came here (and now subscribed) because I have been contemplating this for two weeks. I play all of the high-end games with an RTX 3090 and plan on upgrading my current 1440p Alienware by the end of the year. Thank you for making this video!

[@adamkapetanakis1975]

Please tell me that you don’t have Alienware AW2721D!

[@mikecheck1229]

@@adamkapetanakis1975 I don't

[@Greenthum6]

I bought 2x32GB for the workstation from the start. Video editing with Resolve has already peaked over 50GB and I have only done some tests in 4K/30. There is still option to go 128GB later.

[@TheGamingAnimator]

Just got my second set if 32gb. Haven't installed it yet, really excited. It's my first time being a 64gb owner.

[@AntonyReed]

I love your philosophy on having the computer serve YOUR needs and not the other way around. Beautiful. My work and gaming laptop (I'm always on the move) is an MSI P65 Creator 9sd with a 9th gen i7. My amazing wife just bought me a Quest 2 and Skyrim VR which, of course, I want to mod as much as I can get away with. I'm on 32gb of DDR4 2666 MHz right now and just ordered another 32GB for my max of 64GB. What else do you think I could I do to maximize my modding experience? A cooling deck? Am I missing anything?

[@thomasschraubt7497]

My mainboard died last summer, so I went from a dual Xeon E5 2667 v2 with 64gb ddr3 1866 in quadchannel to a 3700x with 32gb ddr4 3600 dualchannel. I noticed ZERO disadvantages with the tasks I do to this day. Windows 10 even runs out of programs to put into the standy memory tab. I am not the type who closes anything when starting games(mostly RDR2 and CP2077 atm). Even with a game like Warzone I have no issues tabbing out of the game after a long session and this is the kind of game that absolutely loves ram. I expected to notice the lower amount of ram but I didn't.

[@iamLODD]

So 32 will be more than fine! This post made me feel good, thanks.

[@PhiBuddha]

I f****** LOVE it!! Your computer SHOULD serve you! Never even considered running two games at once, but if I wanted to.. then I should be able to. I resonate with this.

[@1313CHORIZOMAN]

Watching youtube and gaming at the same time and having a few items in my task i still have not gone over 50% of my ram usage . I currently have 32gb of ram. Debating if its worth buying 64gb. any thoughts?

[@ByteSizeTech]

That's active RAM, consider what Windows is using for disk cache, standby RAM, etc... 64GB probably isn't actually needed, but it doesn't hurt either. Will you keep your PC for more than 2 more years?

[@1313CHORIZOMAN]

@@ByteSizeTech wow you guys replied while I was watching one of your other videos. You guys are awesome. Thanks for making the best PC content on KZbin. Yes I will be keeping this PC for a couple years.

[@1313CHORIZOMAN]

I went with your advice after all and upgraded to 64gb. Could not be any happier. It is amazing. Thank you

[@616-j4r]

@@ByteSizeTech you can use a program Wich will restart the ram every 5 minutes so the pc doesn’t slows down after few hours Just search on Standby list DRAM

[@doyen86]

I was getting out of memory errors in Chrome while having some other apps idle in the bg with 32GB (yes I'm a tabaholic) so I upped it to 64GB DDR5. No lookin back.

[@nolinohesi3395]

I just went to 32 gigs but now I already want to get a 64 gig 2 stick set and wait a bit to double it. With VR advancing as it is I think it's worthit

[@thetechrealist]

Ok people, you've heard it here, 32gb is for two monitors with 1 game and KZbin running or just for editing videos or for streaming. But 64gb is for running 2 games at the same time or having 3 or more monitors and multitasking or for massively future proofing and not wanting to close anything on your computer, like ever

[@ByteSizeTech]

Yep, that about sums it up...

[@tyonorshapzc7tjfvb7-caz]

and me at 256gb now QC

[@mttrashcan-bg1ro]

I just upgraded my R9 5900X to an R7 7800X3D and went from 32gb to 96gb. I used to have 64gb across 4 sticks on the 5900X until the motherboard rejected one of them. I was so surprised and still am after a few months at how much better of an experience it is. Frametimes are so much better, and I feel like I can have anything going with a game playing and it'll still run super smooth. I dropped 4 cores and 8 threads here on the CPU which is the insane part.

[@JhustineProvido]

Just got 128gb 3200MHz CL16 RAM(tuned to 3466MHz) lmao just a filthy gamer but cheap enough to make me feel good. Totally worth it!

[@illzkza]

I was debating for a couple of months going from 32gb to 64gb of ram. Until seeing this, I actually started streaming my games 2 months ago. I’m streaming on a single pc setup, Ryzen 5900x, Evga 3080, and dual monitor setup (240hz & 144hz monitor). I usually stream Call of Duty Cold War and CS GO. When I bought the 2 additional 16gb of RAM to go 4x16 64gb my stream game play is so,so, smooth and I can average 230 FPS during my Cold War streams. It’s basically like how he describes experience and you do feel the difference, just like driving a car that has really good suspension and drives super smooth. I would still go 64gb even if I didn’t stream just because of how buttery smooth the game play experience is and the responsiveness of your movements are during game play.

[@ivanstanisavljevic8245]

Placebo, if you're using 14gb of ram while gaming the game wont be smoother or have more fps at 64 than at 32

[@CegooK]

Muchas gracias por la info! ^^

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi62]

if you play casual games at 4k or at a higher refresh rate, do you need 32 GB RAM?

[@richardleaneagh4274]

i just set my steam account to higher priority and win 10 just pauses everything else and holds all notifications

[@SPARTAN-KD21]

Add in some of what Tech’s running in the background on his machine with a IDE or two always running in the background he just convinced me to go ahead and slap another 32gigs into my system.

[@jamesneshkoff4921]

Just upgraded from 64 GB to 128 GB. I’ve already noticed the difference for the work station.

[@arencorparencorp2189]

128gb for work, depends on the load but it can be night and day... or useless, i also have 128gb and its necesary, but for gaming 32gb is already generous, 64 is pure overkill.

[@vohdoun]

@@arencorparencorp2189 Many years ago the majority said 16GB was overkill versus 8GB for gaming.

[@arencorparencorp2189]

@@vohdoun yes.. and? i dont see the point, it was overkill for gaming, and even more years ago 2gb ram was overkill, and even more years ago 128 MB of ram was overkill, so, yes in the future 128gb wont be overkill, thats how tech works, dont worry by the time u need 64 gb of ram u'll be able to get 2 32gb ddr6 or ddr7 modules...

[@abdullahal-shimri3091]

@@arencorparencorp2189 looks like everything is overkill for you 🙄

[@jomormont]

@@abdullahal-shimri3091 128gb is underkill for me. Must have more!!

[@ewitte12]

I still close things with 64GB. Memory hogs at least. I'm happy the 5900x still does 3600CL16 with 4 dual rank chips. I dropped to 32GB going from a 2950x to a 3900x because the memory controller couldn't handle them at rated speed.

[@foryouuugamingcoalition7110]

THANK YOU 1st youtuber that has EVER said something other than "you only need 16 gigs " drives me nuts.

[@kevinbrook7033]

I took your advice and had a disaster! :-( I have an i9 10850k with an RTX 3090, a brand new system with 32 GB of Corsair Vengeance 3200 mhz C16 RGB ram. Decided to replace that ram with 64GB of Corsair Vengeance RGB 3600 mhz cl18, the next one up in their range. 4 x 16 GB set. I then planned to put the 32 GB 3200 mhz in my old 7700k 1080Ti system to replace its slow 16 GB set. Anyway fitted the 64GB into my new system without a hitch, but it made my computer worse! All 3D Mark benchmarks dropped by a couple hundred points. Tried both XMP and XMP 2 profiles, made no difference. More worryingly, I've been playing Hellblade all week in VR (awesome game), and with the 64GB set I got more stutters and audio issues, Swapped back to 32 GB 3200mhz and better again. Swapped back to 64 GB, worse. This wouldn't have been such a big deal, just send it back. Unfortunately I aslo put the 3200 mhz ram in my old PC. Despite saying it could support 3200 mhz (Asus Prime Z270-P) it wouldn't boot with the XMP profile enabled. I decided to enter the timing manually and use the auto AI tuner tool in the bios. It booted and ran fine for two hours. Then I loaded up Google Earth VR. The system crashed with a blue screen and simply stopped booting. It all lights up but no display, and it won't go into the bios. I've tried all the following; Tried on two monitors, with different HDMI and power cables Reset the CMOS and taken the battery out over night. Removed the GPU, ram, Wifi card, all USB keyboard, mouse peripherals etc. Tried to boot with 1 stick of ram, in all 4 slots. Nothing works, computer powers up and lights up but doesn't recognise a display so I cannot go into bios. To add a final insult, in swapping the 64 GB sticks around on my new PC to see if that improved the stuttering one of the DIMMs stopped working, and now it only recognises 3 DIMMS and 48GB of ram. It's my DIMM slot that has broke, not the ram sticks as whatever stick I put in that DIMM the computer no longer recognises it. The computer is only 2 weeks old and cost me £3600 so I am gutted. I've put the orginal two sticks of ram back into my PC and it thankfully it works fine again, ran Timespy 3D mark and scored higher than the four attempts I got with 64GB on the first go. Meanwhile my old faithful 1080 Ti 7700k system is seemingly dead and I've exhausted all ideas as to how to revive it. Wasted £280 on the ram, an entire day and night trying to fix, and lost my old, but still very capable second PC. Pretty freaking sad right now :( From now on I'm taking the general advice of not to upgrade if your PC is already working perfectly, far more hassle than its worth.

[@egg5474]

Well, it might seem like a dumb question, but are you absolutely sure they’re the same type?

[@TRXST.ISSUES]

Really enjoy the insights from your videos

[@ByteSizeTech]

Thank you :)

[@Obsidian_fury_x_apex]

I came to the same conclusion and upgraded my ram to 64GB which is daisy chained 4x16GB paired with a curve 1440P 100Hz monitor, Ryzen 5 3600x and 3080TI all OC and it runs great for me plus I do play old and new games at ultra settings while multitasking its no lagging at all its like cutting butter with a hot butter knife

[@suhdud4646]

@6:45 yip. I just finished my new build yesterday having upgraded from a i7 4790k and 16gig 1600mhz. (AMD 5800X / B550m Mortar / 32gig 3600Mhz RGB PRO / RM1000X / Phanteks Glacier One 280mm AIO) *Running a 1070. waiting for 6800XT prices to become realistic and interested to see what the 3060 12g has to offer. I run all my games at 100FPS 144 hz 2k. I never understood people when they said they experiencing micro stutter. Having upgraded my CPU and RAM, I have never experience gameplay that is so smooth and only now do I see what this micro stutter chat is all about.

[@nareshsookraj9230]

It's definitely an old habit of mine back when I had a Haswell i5 with 8gb ram it's like muscle memory close down every background program when I wanna play a game lol I still do it just for the "maximum Performance"

[@Irricas]

It just seems like common sense to me. Buying more RAM to have inactive apps and browser tabs in active memory while gaming seems crazy.

[@Ruby_Mochii]

I've only had my pc for 2 years, how did I get that habit? I've used computers when I was younger from the age of 6, I used them much more recklessly before I owned a pc.

[@Ruby_Mochii]

@@Irricas I guess you're just a type of person that do just 1 stuff at a time. Me and my friends are power users. Watch a film, browse/watch KZbin, play games, spotify, twitch, search, background apps etc etc. We don't necessarily have ADHD, it just makes a difference when we don't have to wait for it to open and easily swap what we're doing. Do you tell your employees to sleep on standby or just have them awake and ready at any time to do tasks? They will take longer to get up to speed if they're sleeping.

[@arencorparencorp2189]

@@Ruby_Mochii thats not being a "power user", why would u have a paused movie, and a twich stream muted+spotify paused, while ur playing, just random waste of resources, also if your computer takes more than... 0.1s to start a movie... get a new ssd or cpu honestly, if u keep 100 chrome tabs with videos u want to watch there, waiting for u, i do that too. But honestly for "normal usage" 16gb ram is fine, 32 is optimal, 64 is pointless (user of 128gb ram for blend and other stuff) so i know when its used and when its worthless, and for gamers ONLY, 64gb is dumb, yea u can have 10 games minimized... but u actually cant as u'll run and start to page the gpu vram sooner than the ram, but lets say u've went op overkill, super pc everywhere, liquid custom loop, max oc, 3090 sli, insane mobo, 20tb nvme, unlimited power system.. yea max out ram, u wont even notice it in the price... but for anything non 3k+, 16 if u want to focus on other stuff or 32 if ur in the upper range

[@Irricas]

@@arencorparencorp2189 Good post. Saved me having to reply. I could not of said it better myself :)

[@laowai2000]

Just realized the best thing about a three monitor set up is when you accidentally knock over the only monitor not on a swivel and smash it, everything is still ok with remaining two monitors. 2024 and not even pushing 16gb. Seems I need to get busier.

[@rubenrar1]

I have just recently subscribed and I have to be honest. It is a breath of fresh air that you don't care about benchmarks. When you watch Linus tech tips or J's two cents. They show benchmarks but that doesn't really show what real world results well actually do. I understand they're just testing and pleasing their viewers but that's not going to help me. I was amazed a lot of Jay's two cents viewers would have the ram in single channel mode and they didn't know how to change the speed of the ram and these were people who had gaming PCs. Since I was new to the game, I was learning from everyone else's mistakes. But you're not lying, going full SSD is beneficial, especially if you're going to school and you're doing a little gaming on the side, I couldn't believe how fast the nvme drive is. I never had the pleasure to experience the beneficial of a SSD but I went full SSD, just because I could lol. And I have 32 GB of RAM but it's good and it's nice having a little extra room to breathe even if you're not fully going to use it all. But it's nice when you're going to school, that you can go full speed.

[@104Woodworks]

I don't even need to wonder if you are speaking the truth, you just earned yourself a loyal subscriber! Cheer's mates 👍👍

[@ByteSizeTech]

Much appreciated

[@izeya1385]

Listen to tech people he isn't crazy, I had 32 Gb ram in my system and was using 20 gigs of my ram just doing my research paper with multiple tabs open and stuff in the background, but he is right, why should I close all my tabs, it's the user experience of not worrying about things that has really opened my eyes. I also am not a normal user, I like having my computer wait for me, not the other way around.

[@jaydenford8302]

The thing with RAM is that it heavily depends on what you want to do with your PC. If you want to be able to hop in a discord call with your friends, run a RAM-Intensive game (games that recommend 16gigs) all while having Netflix open so you can watch parts of a show/movie in between games then 32-64 gigs of RAM is almost necessary. If you've already bought 32GB of RAM you're basically in the overkill zone anyways so spending an extra few dollars isn't going to hurt and you will notice that you can run more programs with the same fast speeds all at once. Now, there's another thing to consider which is the speed your RAM is at. I would take 8GB (4x2) of 3600Mhz RAM over 16GB (8x2) of 2666Mhz RAM if I really wanted to push those extra frames out, however, as I like to multi-task I'd sacrifice the extra 10-40 FPS. Case in point, it all depends on what you want to do and you shouldn't listen to anyone telling you what RAM you need or how much. PC means personal computer, you're using it not anyone else and so it should be your decision. What I will say though, the comments about 100% SSD systems I completely agree with. It's 2021 and the cost of HDD's are the same as SSD's, it's not before where HDD's were the cheaper option. Get one good 4TB SSD, I know it'll cost a leg but in the long run it'll definitely be worth it. Even SATA III SSD's are better than some of the best HDDs. That's just my two cents tho.

[@OkiDingo]

Wow, he actually allowed his wife to talk in a video

[@novantha1]

I run on Linux, (Ubuntu, fairly standard install, which uses less RAM than windows), have a single game launcher open at a given time, and prefer to do one thing at a time (so I typically close my browser out of habit when doing something else, say), and only use about 6-12 GB of RAM total system RAM at any given time in the games I play, and I still have 32 GB, because every now and then I want to run a virtual machine, play an unusual game, or play a game that goes well with a podcast, say. And I'm the extreme edge case of not needing much RAM for people with modern, reasonably specced PCs (at an RTX 2060 + Ryzen 3600 I think I'm around average for new builds), so if I occasionally need 32 GB of RAM, what does that say about people on Windows with who knows how many unnecessary programs running at the same time?

[@SodaiGoku]

I play 7 Days to Die and that regularly gets up to 11 gigs of ram just on its own! #7DaysToDie

[@KhoiBoa]

These dudes got 0$. They still spending on pc. That’s why they ask these stupid questions hourly.

[@jasper4313]

Question I have 16 right now and getting whole new pc should I just go to 64 or buy 32 just to look how that goes and later add another 32gb of ram?

[@carlosad1]

Think first about what you want the computer to do, if you gonna use it how he describes go for 64 since ram price prolly gonna go up

[@jpogigtxcr1778]

Depends in your overall build. If you’re going to buy 8-core cou and up with rtx 3070+ gpu, then go for 64 4x16. If your just planning on a midlevel build with 6-core cpu, rtx2060, rtx3060ti or lower gpu in a few months. 34gb 4x8gb Just do not settle for just 16gb ram

[@jasper4313]

@@jpogigtxcr1778 Will be using a R9 5900x with rtx 3080

[@jasper4313]

@@carlosad1 Gaming newest games and programming

[@matthewsmith2385]

Depends on price if its 20 dollars more for 64 then yea get 64 if its a huge difference dont

[@philbell5564]

I've just managed to get 64GB of Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB DDR4@ 3200mhz for £210.00. It would have been stupid to not upgrade, for that price.

[@Nuclide_pyroclast]

Do you think his home gaming pc is a home gaming pc?

[@Dazulolwarrior]

regarding the SSD bit, i got a 2TB samsung 860 evo ssd and it's been a much more pleasant experience for games and important files/media i still have my 2TB HDD though, that's for the other stuff that I couldn't care less if it loads slower or not

[@NowagMVM]

Same here

[@ozmobozo]

I hate the mechanical drive noise. To get rid of it all I installed all of them to a really old computer my uncle bought 2 decades ago. Now it's a network attached storage device and my main computers are just fine.

[@brng1755]

@@ozmobozoIf you aren't running Programms of them they stop spinning after a while. They sound different while spinning my 2 TB Seagate drive is relativly quiet but the WD is loud as heck.

[@Dazulolwarrior]

@@ozmobozo never had this issue, I think for my case the rest of system runs louder than it.

[@ozmobozo]

@@Dazulolwarrior Hard drives are not loud but has a distinct low frequency noise so maybe that makes the difference since everyone hears differently.

[@masterlee1988]

I currently have 16GB since 2016 and will definitely go for 32GB within a few years from now or so, definitely since I do a lot of video rendering.

[@micobugija6284]

I would recommend doing it now, once DDR5 is out both DDR4 and DDR5 will jump in price Right now its still at a decent price

[@lolickypeepee23xdd6]

@@micobugija6284 wait why would ddr4 jump in price when ddr5 is out, wouldnt the newer tech be the more expensive and high end thing that makes ddr4 look weaker

[@micobugija6284]

@@lolickypeepee23xdd6 nah, not really The first and 2nd gen new DDR memory isnt better than the good previous gen, since its more mature. It would take 2y ish for the new DRAM to mature, as well as its manufacturing process. Then you got the fact that most companies would switch to making and developing DDR5 over DDR4, since almost all PCs are DDR4 and the demand would still be high for it, the prices would inflate. We saw the same with DDR4 and DDR3, I don't remember what DDR2 was like though

[@onomatopoeia162003]

@@micobugija6284 Still have 3gb DDR2 ram laying around. KEKW

[@micobugija6284]

@@onomatopoeia162003 I have a whole PC thats unused that has DDR in it. No clue how much and whats inside. Only know there is an ATI HD GPU inside lol

[@Mr300-y5g]

Is 64gb of ram worth upgrading from 8gb ram on a laptop for gaming

[@slumy8195]

yes, no annoying lag spikes and you can run many programs without losing speed it keeps the whole pc consistent

[@UMADl3RO5]

Im going to go with two 32gb sticks running at 3600. Should be nice

[@mkerimi]

👍

[@swertepanalo]

Will the 128 gb ddr3 make a difference with a 128gb ddr 5?

[@BaseCreation]

Crazy to me how I ugraded from 16gb to 64gb ram from wanting, of all games “Project Zomboid” to allocate more ram. It was locked at 3gb which made it load chunks of the map and zombies choppy a lot of the time and I went up to allocating 14gb. Butter smooth now along with running it & league of legends while waiting on matchmaking playing with my friends on discord while I stream league and have dozens lf chrome tabs open. Game changer.

[@bogartwilley]

I just went from 16GB DDR4 to 64GB DDR5 and the difference was crazy, I was rather upset I couldn't get 128GB. Now going back to the DDR4 feels almost like cruel & unusual punishment.

[@adamled99]

To anyone late to the party: if you're solely a gamer, just get 32. Don't think about anything above that

[@astaroth99]

I got my first PC build in Novemeber 2013, after my PS3 and laptop died. I didn't look back. I bought 32GB back then, even though I was told get 2x8 because I was media and gaming. Now after 10 years I'm upgrading and even I realise that 32GB isn't enough, even for games going into 2024 and beyond. I'm at odds of 64GB if I need more than that I can upgrade in the future. Given that FFXIV: Dawntrail is releasing and increasing that overall size, and system requirements in summer 2024. Do you test games and application like Rachet and Clank on PC etc. Thank you your video has been very helpful for me going forwards.

[@Haddley333]

I upgraded from 16g to 32 gb on my 8700k 2070 super 1400p 144hz gsync and play all from warzone to AC. I honestly don’t feel a diff. Gaming only tho.

[@slumy8195]

upgrading my i7 11700 from 16gb to 64gb (saw msi burner running 14-15gb at 1440p with only games runnning like oirigins or wd legion) you get all the breathing space for your pc to not get a ram bottleneck which is a huge buzz kill on a pc. I did buy 64gb to not upgrade until ddr6 or ddr8 and dont plan to upgrade my resolution anytime soon. You pave the road to have a completely open highway as you can say for years to come and not have that highway be slowed with cars but a highway with 3 cars in 4 lanes for miles on end, no traffic, no stops just a straight smooth ride Edit: if your playing games with mods, ark, minecraft, skyrim ect you want more ram it helps for loading all those custom polygons

[@ozhoneybadger]

Most People can do with 16GB those are average users. For developers and people who have loads of chrome tabs and applications like bluestacks running maybe some docker and that will be squeezing out the 32GB. For someone like me who gets lazy, multipe virtual desktops organised, doesnt close down 100s of tabs and has the above mentioned running having 64GB is a life saver. I did notice pc going slower nearing the end of 32GB. Of course once you clear up your chrome tabs thats 7 plus gb recovered. But honestly feels amazing knowing i got endless ram without slowing down. Running vscode, vsstudio, tonnes of chrome tabs, bluestacks and so much more. Im sure even 64Gb can be ended but that would mean ridiculous amount of nonsense open. I can see myself using up to 35GB or 45GB at the most. For me its been worth it. B die team group ram which I bought on a deal to match the same dual B die team group ram running at CAS16 3600mhz on Amd Ryzen 3700x X570 gigabyte board.

[@Vencarter]

couldn't watch past 11min mark bec it got annoying but he has a point, its 2022 going from 16gb to 32gb is around $35. spending $1500 plus tax on your pc and won't cough up an extra $35 is an L.

[@billygames7107]

Wish I got my 32 for 100$. Got it for 150$ and it now costs 200$ new. I’m happy with my purchase..👍🏼

[@rafopics5467]

True, $174 in my case.

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi62]

but can it run crysis?

[@acid3129]

If you can get a decent deal of 64gb like I just did for black Friday 4 16gb sticks of hyperx 3200mhz for $95

[@tongpopyro2691]

i bought a preassembled desktop with one 32GB RAM, so in order to go from single to dual mode I'm gonna get another 32GB RAM stick whether I really need it or not

[@Rauls026]

Even with ryzen cpus it will work perfectly if I already have a 2x8 dual channel and add an additional 2x16 dual channel to get 48?

[@matthewsmith2385]

Its not worth the gamble would just match your 2x8 sticks it has a much higher chance of the Xmps actually being stable

[@matthewsmith2385]

Plus 32 gigs 99% of people is already overkill so it makes no sense to risk stability with mixing ram sizes

[@Rauls026]

@@matthewsmith2385 then maybe I will add the additional 2x8 again. I do need more ram because for what I do with my computer, 16 gbs isn’t cutting it.

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you for this video guys. Ill be around more!