Why Charming Didn't Come To Save Fiona (Before Shrek)

[@anyablaze7956]

Then there's the Rumpelstiltskin timeline. That shows that either Charming never showed up; or that even he died at the dragon claw. The movie did show that Fiona ended up saving herself without Sherk.

[@ScottishScrub]

Or because Rumple ruled far far away, meaning that even if Charming saved her, he wouldnt be king now anyway.

[@user-os8kb5bo6q]

TSFleming ooo never thought of that, I always felt he became dragon bbq bc even though the fairy godmother tipped the fight in his favor ( because do you really think she wouldn’t) that she was surprised that her perfect “mothered” baby boy was actually a bit of a moron...or he saw the dragon and said F this.

[@nightlightshiro]

@@user-os8kb5bo6q the fairy godmother made the dragon to not attack charming, charming was probably he was hanging out with other princesses somewhere else and isn't it weird that the fairy godmother isn't in forever after? strange uh?

[@ChimpManZ1264]

It's pretty simple! Fiona's parents were wiped from existence and the only reason Fiona still existed was because Shrek's clause meant until his day was over she had to exist. But with her parents signing over Far Far Away the Fairy Godmother and Charming had no purpose to save Fiona. It isn't clear what Fiona knew and whether all her vengeance against Stiltskin was just from being part of the Ogre cause or she also knew he was responsible for wiping out her parents.

[@michaeldillon8217]

Nope he would still be too late shrek saved her in the nick of time if you watch shrek 4

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

Seriously, the Fairy Godmother's performance of Holding Out For A Hero was epic

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I don't hear the song without thinking of that scene. It's legendary 😂

[@MaryTheresa1986]

Her version is even better than the original. No other version exists to me anymore. 😂😂

[@boonduckgod1655]

Yep

[@KellseyAlexHipo]

I tear up when I watch it I love it so much

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

666th like

[@chillcyclists3792]

King:”I mean it wasn’t my fault, he didn’t get there in time.” What the King’s thinking:”I mean it wasn’t my fault , my daughter was up for offer and another person got there first. Where were you throughout all the years of Fiona’s life? An ogre beat you fair and square, I mean I hate him right now but only because I’m a frog.”

[@emeraldmorgan6644]

It was Farquads fault for sending Shrek on that journey.

[@FilmmakeroftheFuture]

It was Charming’s fault because Fiona saves herself in a world with no Shrek.

[@ZadnoleyaEdits]

@@FilmmakeroftheFuture the theory is that he didn't save her bc just like all the knights dragon ate him.

[@10RexTheWolf01]

What was he doing? Getting his hair blown. 8:03 You think that happens naturally?

[@thenarnianhufflepuff6077]

Stop the car!

[@christianroemer8459]

I have my own theory: Whether you knew it or not, in Shrek 2, Prince Charming actually served as the narrator for the opening scene when he attempts to rescue Fiona. And I was thinking, what if Prince Charming thought the rescue was too easy for him(since he’s vain and all) because he actually spent so much time(talking about years) practicing the rescue that he was too late during the real rescue, perfecting every single little thing? The narration, the horse riding, the way he enters the Dragon’s Keep, and how he decides to greet Fiona once he rescues her. He wanted no flaws in the final take. Think about that!

[@davidaviles6253]

Prince charming tower swamp princess village in New journey he was moving happily ever after donkey talk to her and she

[@destinysphinx27]

I know I'm very late to this party but it could also be that the fairy godmother secretly set up an enchantment saying no 'human' will be able to rescue the Princess other than my son and Charming's like 'ok no need to really rush as she'll still be there'

[@whitedragoness23]

@@destinysphinx27 I wouldn’t put it pass the fairy god mother to place a spell to ensure her son would have no trouble. She could of given him magic sword and armor, protection spells. He doesn’t even look for the dragon to defeat dragon. He strolls in there and expects it to be easy to defeat the dragon as if it’s been set up for him.

[@energizer7354]

@@whitedragoness23 perhaps even set up in the point that even the dragon would kill everyone else but know not to kill him due to another deal with FG

[@Ravenwind999]

​@@destinysphinx27Oooh. Good point! You're onto something there because yes, that's probably exactly what she did....🤔

[@robertgarcia8294]

Anyone noticed that Charming walks in without worrying about the dragon like he knew he wouldn't get attacked

[@Chadmiral]

He might've snuck past it.

[@Kenny-ep2nf]

@@Chadmiral by then the dragon left the castle but yeah Charming would know good tactics to be sneaky

[@playerone198]

Because his mother (probably) set it all up, including the dragon. So I guess there were ways for him to survive the dragon or it not even attacking him

[@straypaper]

Still though the fact that he continues to walk calmly DESPITE there being no dragon when he was told that there would be one indicates that he's a special kind of moronic

[@Kenny-ep2nf]

@@playerone198 yeah I could see it being that way

[@DrewFC]

I just noticed when Shrek, Fiona, and Donkey we’re traveling to Far Far Away, they past through freezing winds and scouring Desserts.

[@annabellaapean]

But did they climb to the tallest room of the tower

[@arcanefury3666]

And I just realized a 4 movie franchise got kicked off because one guy wanted to get his house back and another just wanted to get laid. I knew all along but I never actually thought about it

[@sophiehelena6737]

yeah the fairy godmother just made it more dramatic but they had the same experience

[@mimistardust3915]

@@annabellaapean yes lol that's where Fiona was 😂😂

[@dustbunny3137]

@@snappishorc_legacy8506 Ignorant much huh? You do realise there are people that may have a reading/spelling "disability" (idk if it counts as an disability) or maybe (WARNING! this could be a HUGE shocker for you!) Are from another country that doesn't have english as the native language? And did you know that people do not have to speak fluent english no matter, if they do have that "disability" or if they are from an english speaking country or not?? Or that it could just be a... TYPO?! Shocking how that works right??!! Maybe little ignorant dum dum wants to rethink if the original commenter is the dumbass, if little dum dum feels the need to call people dumbasses for very simple spelling mistakes and gets this worked up over them :D

[@dramaqueen16ism]

He was too busy fixing his hair.

[@midnightwolf4273]

Really ? 😂😂😂😂

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

Midnight Wolf At 5:17, Isaac calls Prince Charming’s Family “the Charming Family.” So does that mean the Fairy Godmother’s surname is Charming?

[@datathreadsorceress8624]

😎😎😂😂😂🤣🤣

[@mideenails2588]

And applying his chapstick

[@fabulousfab247]

Same thoughts. 🤣

[@carolinedisalvatore9768]

I also think that Fiona didn’t exactly know that Charming was an actual person just the archetype of “Prince Charming”

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

Caroline DiSalvatore Maybe during Shrek 1, she thought FARQUAAD was Charming.

[@CatCheshire]

@@YellowBear-kx1ff years of being locked in the tower does not let you know people, so she has not much to compare xD

[@srstriker6420]

Caroline DiSalvatore well I actually thought he was based on Saint George and the Dragon

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

SR Striker You thought WHO was based on St George?

[@srstriker6420]

Alex Downs Prince Charming

[@samukrizbai7643]

Plot twist: *All those corpses are Prince Charming, he respawned every time*

[@ΑναστασιαΚ-χ6ω]

I thought so too!!

[@DiannaMarie92]

Yo! That would be a great movie plot

[@LovingItAlways]

What is this Hells Bent?

[@daijun563]

*well that just got dark*

[@JhunBana]

I didn't know charming was a minecraft player.

[@EuroMIX2]

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if Charming (and perhaps, by extension, his mother the Fairy Godmother) were in no rush because they felt their plans were perfect and nobody else would be able to rescue Fiona even if they tried. It also wouldn't surprise me if they held off as long as they could to ensure Fiona would be so alone and desperate that she'd be even more taken by Charming than she would otherwise; "after all this time, my prince has finally come!".

[@Kenny-ep2nf]

yup

[@davidaviles6253]

fiona queen oh yeah charming oh yeah bloody room bloody tower oh yeah joseph oh yeah fairy godmother oh yeah fariy tales crueatures fiona oh yeah swamp oh yeah kenny yes tomorrow mommy yeah swamp oh yeah david dragon keep oh yeah fairy tale oh yeah crueatures oh yeah off oh yeah mommy yeah david mickey yeah michelle oh yeah far far away yeah swamp oh yeah bloody room bloody tower true love frist kiss oh yeah david mommy yeah fiona david oh yeah off oh yeah far far away yeah queen oh yeah king oh yes oh yeah jo jo oh yeah david fiona oh yeah bloody room bloody tower oh yeah dragon keep ok yeah mommy yeah off oh yeah david donkey talk dragon keep oh yeah shrek oh yeah talk yeah king harold oh yeah happyily ever after oh yeah off mommy yeah fiona queen oh yeah papi oh yes tomorrow mommy yeah kenny yeah happyily ever after oh yeah queen fiona oh yeah dragon keep oh yeah joseph true love frist kiss mommy yeah cruse oh yeah papi princeass oh yeah wolf oh yeah

[@bradley698]

Shrek: gets to Fiona first and marries her Charming: years of Academy training wasted

[@fabulousfab247]

Hahahaha! Funny, but nah, Charming had poor swordsmanship, couldn't even stab shrek straight blank in part 3. So, he prolly didn't go to an academy to train.

[@murder1625]

nah he pay the academy training

[@Gell-lo]

Haaaaah. YOU SEE THE HAIR?! I AM PRINNNNCE CHAARMING

[@ShinigamiInuyasha777]

@@fabulousfab247 To be fair Shrek probably was a SERIOUSLY skilled and experience guy. He had to defend his swamp ON HIS OWN for most of his life. And he look in his mid to late 20s when the first movie arrives. That's at least 10 years of fighting knights on his own, and raiders and angry mobs.

[@jmeister7482]

@@Gell-lo Riiiiiight. And I'm the Nutty Professor

[@ilovelucasg4eva]

Donkey is so important to Shrek's success when you think about it.The reason the other knights failed (Barring Charming if he'd made it on time) where Shrek succeeded is because while they all likely traveled alone, Shrek and Donkey went as a team, allowing for Donkey to focus on the dragon while Shrek focused on the princess rather than Shrek being forced to balance the two. That way, when the final steps of the escape from the tower came, they were far enough down the tower that they could plan and execute a feasible escape from the dragon. Not to mention, thanks to Donkey's personality and style of humor, he approached the dragon in a way likely no other knight would have ever tried because they were too focused on the dragon as only a force to be defeated. Because he focused on her in a nonviolent way that focused on flattering her, he was able to distract her.

[@RED-my9hl]

take a shot every time you write focused

[@masterproductions1179]

Donkey rizz

[@JoanSlugXAkaJerkyBogard]

More than Just a distraction, if You remember they get babies eventually. XD

[@davidaviles6253]

david mickey cruse papi okay yeah mommy yeah michelle okay yeah far far away okay yeah far away bloody room bloody tower okay yeah true love first kiss okay yeah kenny joseph oh yeah ok far far away okay kenny danny mod okay david cruse

[@jadacampbell9331]

Well they did travel on horses🐎, but i guess they were all beauty and no brains, unlike donkey

[@mostar1219]

Let’s not forget that, by the time word got out that Fiona was rescued, Harold and Lilian almost signed their kingdom over to Rumplestiltskim

[@charlesbrioche6745]

Shrek saved a whole kingdom from falling into the wrong hands by trying to get his swamp back

[@leahvictoria7447]

Kasumeme Toyama I almost forgot Shrek’s intentions :/

[@sunshineholtzlander5593]

@@charlesbrioche6745 BEST REPLY EVER BRO!!!!!👍🏻🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@davidaviles6253]

shrek 4 oh yeah swamp rumplestiltskim king harold oh yeah donkey talk Lilian queen okay yeah fiona sherk 2 oh yeah mommy yeah king harold oh yeah okay tower fiona donkey talk shrek talk yeah swamp

[@davidaviles6253]

Fiona first kiss prince charming tower swamp rumpelsitskin shrek 4 why David donkey talk sherk movie papi why Fiona tower revenge oh yeah papi fairy godmother fairy tales king Harold queen mom

[@EMD1594]

I think it's also important to note that part of the reason Shrek was able to save Fiona, was because he had Donkey with him. All the other knights went alone, it not hard to see why, if they ALL wanted to marry Fiona, they wouldn't team up as you couldn't exactly share 'the prize'. Donkey was able to keep Dragon busy, while Shrek found Fiona, and started evacuating her from the tower. He also used a non-conventional method as he didn't try to slay the dragon first, he didn't care about being a hero, he just wanted to get Fiona, and get out

[@captainkat]

I think their intent didn't set off alarms either, as neither wanted to marry Fiona. The only reason dragon chased them was bc donkey was leaving, not because she realized Fiona was leaving. Overall, dragon was up for the trade. She just didn't want to be alone

[@davidaviles6253]

tower okay yeah kenny cruse okay yeah true love first kiss okay yeah true love okay yeah true love okay yeah true love david happily ever after ok yeah true love ok yeah true oh yeah ok yeah oh yes ok yeah

[@itztatterzzz]

It’s just like a spoiled kids to have everything laid out for them and STILL mess up

[@amypattie7004]

Itztatterz a butterfly whose cocoon is cut open for them comes out a slug and is unable to fly

[@alishaanimations3058]

Lmao yea I like this explanation 🤣😂

[@AllYellowJoshua]

“Some gender confused wolf.” THE SHADE 😂🤣

[@armahn826]

lol they couldn't say that in today's world.

[@elisabethfanfan9560]

Ha that joke though didn't age well

[@albertthepeacock8020]

And the way her VA says it makes the delivery all the more hilarious its like she knows she lives in a fairy tail works yet still finds it ridiculous wolfs can be confused about what they wanna be

[@thedeliveryboy1123]

imagine she gets cancelled for being transphobic because like she's a celebrity

[@monomonito929]

the transphobia 😳

[@hunterlawrence3573]

I never realized: Fiona was technically saved by her true love. Farquaad sent Shrek and Donkey, but it was them that got her out of the tower. So she was rescued by the person she ended up marrying, she just didn't realize it at the time.

[@abadgurl2010]

But that means that even if Charming got there first and kissed her nothing would've happened and she would have still turned into a ogre at night.

[@BKStarlet08]

@@abadgurl2010 not exactly. Given the mentality she had once she was saved, she would have fallen in love with the Prince at first sight. And if not, his mummy could always whip up a love potion for her to take before night fell

[@erinhartshorn4644]

I'm pretty sure that's the point of the movie?

[@anaussie213]

How did you just realise that?

[@coveruplies]

I mean...duh? Worried about the amount of likes this comment has, how can this many people miss the point?

[@nielsbakker3929]

what about fairy God mother’s full story

[@DaDancing1]

I think he did already

[@gabrielaabreudearaujo2580]

I liked that idea! Because I want to know if the Fairy Godmother from Cinderella helped any other princesses and girls before she helped Cinderella to get her Happily Ever After.

[@LuckLady1991]

Well yeah it is clear that Fairly Godmother was the one who put the curse on her. She made it pretty clear. The King was a frog who fell in love with a woman who was a Princess. And he made a deal with Fairly Godmother so he can have his Happily Every After. The deal was that one of his kids will marry one of her kid. She would have a son by magic maybe and he would have a daughter. And it was all arranged before she was born. I'm not actually sure if he was originally a frog he could have been a commoner and fell in love with his future wife but couldn't compete with the other Princes. And for the Faily Godmother most likely at sometime got tired of giving people thier Happily Ever After that she wanted to have her own Happily Ever After. Maybe she fell in love with a Prince and gave him everything and when the time came for him to marry her he changed his mind and married someone else. Fairly Godmother must have been pregnant with her ex lovers son. So her son might be a real Prince or she made him a real Prince. This is just my assumption on this matter because Fairly Godmother seems a bit bitter to me and had this sense about her like she new what it was like to be promised something and then someone breaking that promise. Like she had rules about her Happily ever after and the having severe punishments for not complying with the rules and time limits. I feel like she must have been cheated out of her Happily Ever After by a Prince and broke her heart and she couldn't do anything about it. Like if her Prince became a King he could just cats her out and deem her evil and ruin her. If she put a curse on him and his family no matter how powerful she was at that time she didn't have the reputation or money to back her up. Maybe she wanted her son to be King to get revenge on the guy who betrayed her. But this is me filling in the holes and making things up as I go.

[@pm2669]

story i think: she used to be a magical fairy who trained every day she became a great fairy and defeated supreme evil

[@natashaing4999]

Well there’s a theory she was the witch who cursed Fiona, like she may have disguised herself as a witch when doing so

[@justyoureverydaycasualship146]

I think she put a spell on the castle so only Fiona’s true love could rescue her. She fully expected that the only candidate for that was her son. She never counted on the fact that anyone could hold the princesses heart. Otherwise, why would he have been so surprised that she was gone when he got there.

[@davidaviles6253]

David and I are the same as you can tower swamp cruse okay yeah true love first kiss Fiona princess and you are so beautiful and happy ever after that more like it shrek and donkey talk monther charming daughter fairy tale tower Fiona and shrek true love first kiss charming and beautiful cute little girl sepll you fairy godmother love first kiss and relationship together

[@loreylane3918]

Because she was never meant to be his in the first place . It was fated that he procrastinated cause he never truly loved her, otherwise he would have rescued her ages ago. her true loves first kiss is meant to change her into loves true form. at the end of the movie when she kisses shrek she doesn’t go back to being human. wich means charming was never supposed to rescue her , instead it was always meant to be shrek cause being an ogre is who she was meant to be.

[@davidaviles6253]

i think she put a spell david oh yeah on the castle so bloody room bloody tower oh yeah true love first kiss oh yeah once upan time david oh yeah mommy yeah fiona oh yeah charming oh yeah shrek 1 ok yeah mommy papi oh yeah kenny dragon keep oh yeah movie shrek 4 oh yes oh yeah david funny oh yeah shrek 3 oh yeah teddy oh yeah

[@NamelessOne-]

Honestly. If Shrek wouldn't have rescued Fiona, charming would have died and failed to the dragon anyway. All his training was for nothing and fairy godmother created a challenge not even her trained son could defeat. According to Fiona's words in the last movie, no one ever came to rescue her and she got tired of waiting so she rescued herself. Meaning that charming never got to rescue Fiona from the tower. And since she's not with her parents. It seems she decided not to return to far far away. Probably realizing the whole scheme of putting her in a tower was crazy and cruel.

[@cthonisprincess4011]

It was because in the forth movie, Fiona's parents sign the kingdom over to Rumplestiltskin, and it's revealed in the game version of Shrek 4 that Fairy Godmother is Rumplestiltskin's Queen (for a week but it was a start), so there would be no reason for Charming to want to rescue Fiona because he and Mommy were only after the crown.

[@NamelessOne-]

Great point :)

[@shaunessyalmeida2830]

Another point is that Charming could have rescued her if His Mom could give him a Love Potion or she has already put the dragon there herself (like as in she created it out of magic). After that she could have put a spell on the dragon allowing only Prince Charming to rescue Princess Fiona. She's really cunning, don't get me wrong. After all she wanted her son to be a King, right?? What if Prince Charming didn't have to train because of this reason?! He could be dating other princesses if his mother actually did this as well!! Thus making Fiona wait for Years to come until he arrives and breaks the curse. Idk, it's just what the other guy said. 😉

[@damotoneko1500]

Notice how he didnt stumple upon the dragon when he showed up? There might have been a route to avoid the dragon.

[@NamelessOne-]

Pretty sure in the 4th movie, in that time line dragon was dead already.

[@Vaguer_Weevil]

You look like SpongeBob if he were a human, not that that's a bad thing.

[@Icykrissy]

I think he looks a lot like Jon Eder!

[@Gell-lo]

I see it

[@SAM_ARTHUR_CL0VVNDOLL]

Kristina Savic look up spongebob the musical, you can see all the characters as human.

[@lilyhawkes5578]

There's already Ethan Slater but okay I guess

[@FIREcrochethairstyles]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@AH-is5yg]

I like your theory that charming and the fairy godmother were overconfident, egotistical, and arrogant that they failed to see their plan had so many flaws. Shrek and Farquaad indirectly ruined the plan. Magic Mirror told Farquaad about Fiona

[@werty21100]

If you think about it this was technically lord farquaad fault then shrek. Had farquaad not dump the fairy tale characters on shrek swamp skrek wouldn't have no reason to go to lord farquaad which in turn make shrek go and save fiona in the first place after all shrek only care about his swamp prior to meeting fiona. sure shrek saved fiona and married her but this only happened because of lord farquaad

[@AH-is5yg]

@@werty21100 the magic mirror told him about Fiona in a way part of it is the mirror's fault. but the mirror tried to tell him about Fiona turning an ogre at nights but farquaad stop him

[@AH-is5yg]

@@werty21100 I forgot Rumplestiltskim, so with or without Shrek and farquaad, the fairy godmother and prince charming would never get the kingdom anyway, so their plan was doomed to fail

[@werty21100]

@@AH-is5yg also i forgot to mention that in rumplestiltskim timeline fiona eventually escapes the castle on her own so even if shrek doesn't save fiona she will eventually save herself thats provided that she escapes the castle before prince charming arrives at the castle

[@theresachacon1122]

@@annabourbon You mean Fairy Godmother because the plan was hers all along

[@gemrock]

Now I'm wondering what was dragon doing before she was placed at the tower to watch over the princess.

[@parkerwalker377]

i was obsessed with her life before she was placed in the tower. is it a community of dragons that just wait for assignment? is everyone’s dream to be a dragon in a tower? did she want to be a dragon in a tower? did she have a family? friends? was her whole life uprooted to guard a tower? what’s going on there? why was she there? why was she so passionate about keeping folks way from Fiona?

[@Ameute]

I was going to joke she was on Tinder. But after seeing Parker’s comment, now I’m wondering... everyone is born believing in their roles. So the Dragon would have believed in hers. They have that “ stereotype”: that girls at Club/Bar will have that one tough girl who tells all the guys to get lost. Her role was to tell all these jerks that Feona was already engaged and to back off. But Donky wasn’t interested in Feona and started flirting with the dragon. So Charming never even question not seeing the dragon because she was suppose to let him in.

[@Andrea-qq3sn]

There's a theory that say the dragon could be another princess who was cursed by fairy godmother and her curse never got lifted so she never got her happy ending and all according to the fairy godmother's plan to have her there guarding the tower. It's just a theory but I think is a very interesting one.

[@gemrock]

@@Ameute now I can't stop thinking about a fairytale version of tinder😂.

[@xx-el9gl]

I always figured Dragon was choosen because she's obviously... Lonely and since Charming is all handsome he'd be able to charm his way past

[@deannajohnson5698]

This is my theory.... The fairy godmother was not worried about another knight rescuing Fiona because she had already put a spell on the castle where no other MAN but charming would be able to rescue Fiona and live. This is why they were in no rush to get to the castle. She just had not considered to include "ogre" in the spell...

[@lovenadia5155]

This makes the most sense !

[@calebtrains2261]

That Also Explains The Dragon's Keep Being Located In A Volcano, IMO, Since She Probably Cursed The Land To Look Terrifying.

[@via-anghelmagahum2586]

Gotta love loopholes

[@LAZERAK47V2]

Honestly, I'm surprised Charming didn't realize something was up when there was no dragon guarding the princess. Also, I'm afraid that Fairy Godmother had no clue about Shrek and Fiona. Her reaction upon meeting him and her surprise that Fiona was in her ogre form betray this. She literally asks "when did this happen?" when Shrek is introduced as her husband. So I think it wasn't so much that Charming was forced into action, but rather that he began the quest on time, Shrek simply beat him to Fiona. They immediately went on their honeymoon, so I doubt anyone would make the trek all the way to Far Far Away (since it's, you know, Far... FAR... away) just to spread news about it. The only people who likely knew about their relationship were living in the areas around Duloc. We also have to remember that Farquaad had a zero tolerance policy for any magical creatures, which would've included Fairy Godmother and her subordinates. Using a human spy in that land would've been too impractical for her. But I think you hit the nail on the head with her plot: The invitation to Far Far Away is addressed to Fiona and her "Prince Charming", which was interpreted as an adjective describing her husband, but it was meant as the literal name of her husband (but of course, only FGM and the King would know this). It explains that nobody from Far Far Away knew that FIona and Shrek were married. It would also explain why the invitation arrived when it did: It was meant to arrive immediately after Charming rescued Fiona, but because they were on their honeymoon, they delayed long enough for the invation's arrival to line up perfectly. Remember, EVERYBODY was shocked by Shrek's appearance, including Harold. So nobody expected him. I think Fairy Godmother simply assumed that the Dragon would be enough to eliminate all competition while Charming prepared for the quest. Remember that Shrek did things in a very unorthodox way. Fairy Godmother would've never anticipated that someone completely uninterested in Fiona would ever attempt such a dangerous undertaking. And she had absolutely no way to anticipate Donkey's interaction with Dragon. Like you said, everyone who attempted to rescue Fiona tried to fight the Dragon first, either to prove their valor or courage or something. They all died because of this. Shrek and Donkey did NOT do this. Shrek headed straight for Fiona because securing her was his objective, the Dragon was simply an obstacle, he wasn't interested in impressing her. Donkey flirted with Dragon instead of fighting her, and it's clear that she was pretty lonely in that castle, what with Fiona being locked in the Tower and every knight who entered trying to kill her. A little flattery would go pretty far in that case. Farquaad was the proverbial fly in the ointment. Fairy Godmother didn't expect a complete craven to hire an Ogre completely uninterested in the princess. She assumed everyone who would dare attempt to rescue Fiona would be a young man trying to hero his way into her heart. And for the most part, she was absolutely correct.

[@FilmmakeroftheFuture]

But even in the other universe (where Shrek is never born), Charming still doesn’t get there in time. I think that means Charming just had bad timing.

[@yuki97kira]

I read in the comments but in the universe where shrek was never born, the kingdom got to rumplestiltsikins hands..as we see the king was about to hand over the kingdom to him when words about fionas freedom travelled...so charming was probably on the way, rumplestiltskin got the kingdom and fiona is no longer princess

[@jessicagalvin4598]

Maybe he thinks it’s charming to be fashionably late?

[@alionlover40]

@@yuki97kira But what would've happened to Charming? Where was he when Fiona got to the point of needing to save herself? Years had past by the time she left. That was plenty of time for Charming to make it there (within a year to 40 years, presumably).

[@yuki97kira]

@@alionlover40 idk i just assume he got there, fiona was an ogre while he sees her( i assume since true loves kiss was needed to break the spell, maybe charming couldnt break the spell, because fionas true love is shrek)=he dont want her anymore, he thought she doesnt have looks/ power, and left... Or he got eaten by dragon

[@alionlover40]

@@yuki97kira True

[@lunamoonstone2350]

i just figured he was super lazy and didn't think anyone would save fiona. still this was an interesting answer that lord farquad heard of fiona and sent an ogre to save her. just before charming set off charming lived in far far away so yeah shrek had the home advantage living close by and all. great video can you do fairy godmother's backstory or ask why didn't fairy godmother just marry her son to another princess? i mean according to shrek logic none of the other princesses were married surely they had kingdoms to go back too. i guess far far away was the biggest kingdom

[@lilenwasnothere6867]

i mean we do see dullock is a few days away from shrek's swamp and the tower is probably also a few days away from dullock as far as i remember so far far away ➡️ the swamp ➡️ dullock ➡️ fiona's tower must have been at least a week of travelling

[@cooltrainervaultboy-39]

To answer your question about why didn't Charming marry another princess; Far Far Away has a Starbucks across the street from another Starbucks. I bet no other kingdom can brag about that.

[@lemon-pop2923]

Luna Moonstone I guess maybe because of the deal King Harold made with the Fairy Godmother? He was originally a frog and turned into a human by Fairy Godmother for his “Happily Ever After” maybe Fairy Godmother turned this deal into a bargain because she probably doesn’t do it for free. Since Harold fell in love with a princess ➡️ he would then become King If Harold promises his daughter to Fairy Godmother’s son ➡️ then she would grant his wish to become human Since the entire “Shrek 2” has King Harold & Fairy Godmother collaborating to kill Shrek. That’s all I can think to why Prince Charming was promised to Fiona and Fairy Godmother so adamant about Fiona 🤔

[@Lord_KillerBee]

Well the magic mirror did reveal three eligible bachelorettes, and given how Cinderella and Snow White already had their stories from Disney, it made sense he would choose bachelorette #3: Princess Fiona. Since Shrek managed to defeat Lord Farquad's men he felt that sending an ogre to save the princess was beneficial since if Shrek was killed then he wouldn't have lost any of his knights and if he succeeded then he would have his princess. Chances are fairy godmother wanted her son to marry into the kingdom of Far, Far Away since not only was it in her backyard but also was payment for helping King Harold with his happily ever after.

[@TheReemodak]

I just assumed it was because he was coming from far, faaaaar away

[@lunalgaleo1991]

Pun intended?

[@juanrisa945]

Well, it definetly is that, since the first two Shrek films leave clear that the swamp was closer to the castle than Far Far Away.

[@dustymcwari4468]

@@juanrisa945 but even then, Charming was seemingly rushing to rescue Fiona, while Shrek did a bunch of chill trips overall, and they arrived just fine, Charming must’ve been entertained by something else altogether, like he did a stop that was initially meant to be brief, but he ended up dismissing his one duty for far too long until he remembered he had stuff to do, or his mother angrily reminded him he’s gotta do his part so they can rule over Far Far Away

[@austinphillips4214]

I want to take it a step further and say that fairy godmother planned on the dragon not being in the way of charming. Notice how he calmly struts through the castle not even considering a dragon to be waiting for him. She wanted the dragon to be there to kill every other hero but him. The reason I say this is because Charming is incompetent and has not demonstrated the capacity that would suggest his success. Fairy godmother wouldn’t let her sons victory be determined on a whim. It’s too out of character with how much planning she’s done

[@akaiyoru2681]

Yep. She raised him only so that she could get the crown. He would be her puppet king. I also think that they planned for him to find her at a certain time, perhaps so that he could more easily break her curse with one if her special potions. He did spray something in his mouth...

[@crimsonkatharine6857]

I feel like the dragon used to be a donkey and was turned into a dragon to guard Fiona by the fairy godmother. It would explain why the dragon fell in love with Donkey, they were both the same species at one time. The Fairy Godmother had no intention on turning the dragon back into her original form, which is why she never does.

[@ajtriforcegamerofhyrule8538]

I like your theory

[@dustydingo8323]

Sometimes I think about how Fiona could have possibly survived in that tower, food wise, I mean you don’t really picture a kitchen being in that tower or some kind of supply line into the castle. Also I can assume that Fiona didn’t spend ALL her time in that one room, and I also think that Dragon had some kind of pact where she wasn’t allowed to harm Fiona, otherwise Dragon would have definitely killed her by then. So considering all the knights that came to rescue her and failed as they were burned alive by Dragon. Is it possible that Fiona might have actually eaten what was left of them? Because first of all, I can tell that there was still flesh on the bones of the knights after they died, if Dragon had melted of all the flesh off in one breath, the bones would have been stained black, and Dragon obviously didn’t eat them as the skeletons would have been in a great big pile in a singular location considering the eating habits of animals similar to Dragon, so she most likely would go hunting for things such as livestock when she wasn’t busy burning people alive. Secondly, because Fiona turned into an ogre at night and because humans are a regular food source for ogres (implied by Shrek “they’ll make a soup out of your freshly peeled skin”) it is quite possible that when Fiona turned into an ogre at night she went out and ate the remains of the knights who tried to save her maybe even when she was human.

[@ladyv5655]

It was an enchanted castle and was probably set up to meet her needs, so food would have been magically provided.

[@scythescythe884]

The ogre curse makes sense with that theory. Dark as it may be its not really canibalism if they are not even the same species. Even if only temporarily

[@myriaidee1sessh43]

There is a giant book thats says, KnightsTreats in Shrek. 3:48. Maybe Fiona did eat then 🤷‍♀

[@aureliaavalon]

@@myriaidee1sessh43 WHOA I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT. But then again even if i did i'd assume it was the dragon's cookbook 😂

[@moneybxndz161]

...so she’s a cannibal?

[@MariuigiKhed]

I think that, basically, Farquad act before Charming. Like, Prince wanted to save Fiona one day, but (whataretheodds), the son of one of the seven dwarf (btw canon) just happend to find out about Fiona one week before he would reach the Dragoness' castle.

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

Mariuigi Khed - I PixelGamers Yeah, Farquaad was the son of Grumpy.

[@anonymoose_0056]

Does that mean that farquad kicked out his own father from his kingdom.

[@moonlighttheartist9108]

If Farquad is the son of Grumpy. Then who’s his father?

[@MariuigiKhed]

@@moonlighttheartist9108 who's the Mother? A human, but they didn't go into detail, just like Charming's

[@maymay5600]

i didn't know that really? canon in shrek story or in actual seven dwarks, when actually would be shrek

[@jacqueslochs2114]

My semi theory is this: the dragon was specifically created using a bit of magic, to not let anyone rescue Fiona, except Prince Charming. What do you think?

[@Gabija-tz6gv]

To back this theory up, Shrek was able to rescue Fiona and get fast the dragon because Donkey was distracting the dragon and since Donkey didn't have any intention to rescue Fiona, well he did wanted to help, but his first prioritie was to befriend Shrek, he couldn't have been a possible candidate for rescuing her.

[@perrytheplatypus2001]

Adding onto this: "why didn't Charming rescue her in the 4th movie then if Shrek was now out of the way?" Simple: The King and Queen are dead, Rumplestiltskin (can't spell his name) is now the King. Charming was only after the crown, during the second movie he complained about how Shrek stole "his" throne from him. Now that Fiona's family is dead Fiona has no right to the throne, she is no longer a princess meaning that Charming marrying her would provide no benefits to him. As soon as Fairy Godmother found out the royal family was dead she called off the mission to save Fiona meaning that no one would come save her anymore, resulting in a jaded and angry Fiona who decided to save herself instead of waiting for someone that would never come.

[@emphoenixcat1110]

Fairy godmother probably cast a spell so that no human could successfully save Fiona other than Charming, and as we all know, Shrek isn't human. Fairy godmother wouldn't have accounted for that. And in the 4th movie, Fiona is able to rescue herself because she is not a full human. She's magically part ogre and her father's true form is a frog lol, so....yeah

[@xTwilightWolvesx]

Gabija 14 There’s also the fact that potential suitors tended to go on their own instead of having someone accompany them.

[@1Skorpia]

Love broke the spell

[@justaway_of_the_samurai]

I'm pretty sure the years of buildup to Charming's rescue of Fiona was planned to maximize the drama of the rescue. If Charming went to save Fiona literally the day she was first locked in the tower, it would have been so anticlimactic. If someone "saved" you from a tower after you had been locked in their for and afternoon when you were 8 years old, would you have felt obligated to marry that guy? Hell no! Instead, Fairy Godmother planted the seed in Fiona's mind by having her parents tell her about this grandiose plan to have her rescued by a handsome prince. She then let that seed grow, nourished by the despair and loneliness of living in the tower for 10-15 years. By the time Charming "rescued" her, she would have been so desperate for human interaction and obsessed with this fairy tale story that she would cling to Charming long enough to marry him and secure his right to the thrown.

[@princesstiny4]

nice

[@brandonaumiller3997]

This movie is literally a meme and yet has in depth lore and branching timelines. Lowkey it’s kind of awesome that the Rumplestiltskin timeline heavily implies that if charming were to face the dragon it would’ve killed him.

[@Queue3612]

Charming was never going to fight the dragon, just look at the way he just struts in there and takes off his helmet. He probably didnt even know about the dragon.

[@gerardorodriguez7500]

He failed to save Fiona because he didn’t get there in time

[@baliyae]

Exactly!

[@gerardorodriguez7500]

baliyae but what was he doing?

[@cmcgoogle1687]

Obviously.

[@KoroxasHeart]

In shrek 4, charming didn't make it in time anyway and its too late regardless

[@thatdudebtw718]

Omg I never noticed 😦

[@ProfessorUniverse95]

Because she was on her honeymoon. Charming: Honeymoon?! With whom?

[@haylihill7041]

ProfesserUniverse with her true love

[@elisabethfanfan9560]

Cuts to scene with shreck an orge

[@crumblemuffin1257]

_SO SHE SAID "WHAT'S THE PROBLEM BABY-"_

[@Neha-ue3uk]

@@crumblemuffin1257 WHAT'S THE PROBLEM I DON'T KNOW WELL MAYBE IM IN LOVE (LOVE)

[@joythecat1950]

@@Neha-ue3uk THINK ABOUT EVERYTIME I THINKIN BOUT CANT STOP THINKIN BOUT IT

[@karmapotato5048]

Fairy Godmother: "...some gender confused wolf..." Me: Girl you just jealous he can rock that outfit better than you-

[@shrekisthebestfranchiseand5032]

Karma Potato lool that joke wouldnt be allowed nowadays

[@elisabethfanfan9560]

That joke joke didnt age well fidnt it

[@estelaangeles2346]

@@elisabethfanfan9560 in the musical it shows farquad hates his father and his father is the dwarf

[@helen8022]

@@shrekisthebestfranchiseand5032 idk why not since fairy godmother is evil and it would fit her character. Like, the news lady from hazbin hotel saying she doesn't touch the gays or something. Like duh of course you're supposed to hate the character that says that

[@sunshineholtzlander5593]

@@shrekisthebestfranchiseand5032 I love your name!!! It's really cool!

[@toriality6602]

As someone who loves the musical as much as the movie--I also wonder if it was being held off partly because being locked in a tower for so long is like... detrimental to one's mental health. They really dove into Fiona's isolated, socially-deprived, lonely state in the musical. And so if she was left there (over 20 years per musical) and obsessed with "whoever rescues me IS my true love" and conditioned that way... man, it wouldn't be hard for Charming to be "the one" even if they were ultimately very different people. Like, desperation plus all that?? Dark as it is, I have to wonder if the waiting for years and years was something that they were going to use to their advantage.

[@Roset1557]

I always thought that Prince Charming was someone the fairy godmother created using potions and experiments. Maybe all those dead bodies are previous ones that failed, and so she kept trying to perfect him until he was able to do the job right and maybe that’s why he was so late.

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

The Better question is how would Charm even beat the dragon, i just don't see him doing it.

[@mm-hx4oh]

Whit a fairy godmother potion?

[@pankuneko186]

wasn't the dragon with Donkey?

[@Janoha17]

@@pankuneko186 That was the other unforeseen factor: Donkey getting Dragon's attention romantically.

[@prcervi]

as mentioned by one other person, the dragon was likely meant to let him in no fight needed(or fairy godmother made him fire proof)

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

@@prcervi Let him in, don't see that happening.

[@sekahher9725]

Makes sense. Bc i remember that when charming asked the wolf where fiona was. The wolf said that she was on her honeymoon. Which implies that Charming was only a week or two behind shrek.... But like dang, dreamworks be thinking of everything lol

[@KiaraLionessTM]

I’ve waited for this theory and and an answer to this theory for years and finally yes! ❤️

[@cailieisidro5758]

Same

[@rainynichols8110]

please tell me this is sarcasm ?😹

[@Lady_Monarch_Art]

What if prince Charming was the prince in a failed fairytale (a fairytale with an unhappy ending) and he was saved by fairy godmother, so no one would find out about the failed fairytale. (That explains why prince Charming was to late when he was saving Fiona from the dragons keep. He came out of another fairytale.) She took the prince under her wing and promised him she would help him get his happy ending. In return he had to keep his mouth shut about the failed fairytale so her business wouldn't fall apart. Fiona's mother told Fiona that one day her "prince Charming" would come and save her. But she didn't mean prince Charming as by name. She ment a charming prince, any prince. But fairy godmother named the failed prince Charming to fit fiona's expectations.

[@KittyUnicorn56XD]

Milou Aalders well that makes sense

[@Redfernroses]

But unless he is one of the princes from the dark fairytales where the children’s become orphans, then that wouldn’t make since, he calls her mommy and mother

[@battleax6364]

Here’s some thing I noticed when prince charming came to save Fiona in the castle there was supposed to be a dragon guarding it but the dragon wasn’t there because it fell in love with donkey but prince charming didn’t seem too surprised about the fact that there was no dragon trying to kill him so what if fairy godmother made the dragon and specifically told it to attack all intruders except prince charming to make sure that things went in their favor and didn’t expect the dragon to fall in love with one of the intruders

[@kristenlawrence4643]

I've always thought that Charming was late because, maybe, he was waiting for fiona to become an adult. He always seemed older, maybe it doesn't bother him to marry someone who loves him because of some love potion his mother has concocted, but the fact that she could be a minor bothered him. Shrek was just lucky enough to be in the right place at the right moment. Btw, how come nobody ever noticed that Charming would have NEVER gotten to Fiona's tower if dragon was still living there? (i mean in the third movie, dragon ate him alive, the same thing would have happened).

[@Meela9088]

Lol so he’s a bad guy but not a BAD guy

[@brittanyplasker6860]

I doubt it. Back in the medieval era people didn't live as long. When they grew old they lived into their 30's or 40's. When women died in childbirth they were usually between 15 and 20, more or less. I think the age of consent back then was younger than now. It seems unlikely that Charming would fret too much over their age gap.

[@demierussimmons8235]

I think charming was training to rescue Fiona for years but by the time he went to the dragons keep he was too late

[@mikichan8561]

No dragon didn't eat Charming she simply pushed the fake tower with her tail thus causing it to fall on him leading to his death. Dragon ate lord farquad.

[@Emperor_Oshron]

i'm still amused by the fact that Prince Charming's name really IS "Charming" XDDDDD

[@GABRIELLA3254]

Well he is indeed charming lol My childhood crush

[@shadowdancer6805]

So in Shrek 4 we see Rumpl reminisce about how the king and queen almost signed over Far Far Away but didn't because they got news just in time that Shrek had saved Fiona. I've never understood why the king would do this when he knew fairy godmother was planning to send Charming. Makes even less sense if he knew Charming had already set out save her.

[@roxanapop1557]

the king knew but the queen did not, so maybe he was just going with it because he cared more about being with the queen than about the kingdom, and telling her about charming and how he is due to have Fiona would have meant telling her about him being a frog and he was scared to do that

[@beastwarsFTW]

He might have assumed that Charming died or gave up. Judge by the fact that he only made it to the chamber because the dragon was off making little dragon/donkeys I'm guessing the former.

[@dustymcwari4468]

Lillian didn’t give a damn about what the Godmother said, Charming was taking way too long, she probably was the one who put Fiona’s announcement in the mirror, and after that failed, she must’ve forcefully convinced Harold to ask some other powerful person for help, she just wanted her daughter back at all cost, and she didn’t trust the Godmother all that much

[@Izaan2810]

Maybe because he didn't want his daughter to marry the pathetic person, Charming was, and become daughter in law to the witch that cursed her.

[@Rosemary_bae]

@@dustymcwari4468 sorry to ask but why Fiona's mom didn't trust FG beside she's manipulative?

[@bluejaygamer9476]

As you said, the Fairy Godmother had orchestrated Fiona's imprisonment. However, her plan was devised to be more effective against human adversaries rather than an ogre and a talking donkey. Due to his training, he was too far away to respond at a moment's notice hence the reaction we see in the movie. He was actually planning to arrive later than his scene in the movie. So, by technicality, he was early and not late to save Fiona. He just got bested for acquiring her hand in marriage. Plus, her true love accepted her for who she is rather than what she was supposed to be.

[@MajicReno]

"Saved by my true love" is the phrase. it is most likely the grounds she was kept on were enchanted so that only her true love could rescue her. (note to all up and coming evil villans phrasing is key for long term spells.) At the time of her imprisonment she was pretty much brainwashed into thinking a Prince Charming would be the one because I seriously doubt that one would name their child "Prince" Charming Fortuna. He was probably named such to use a loophole in the enchantment Fiona believed that her true love was a Prince Charming spoiler alert due to the shrek forever after movie that more than likely didnt work and the enchantment was not rigged to keep her from walking out herself.

[@rosie_petals649]

I like how he says dragon as "Drei-gon" and not "dra-gon". It's funny

[@FAMOUS4EVER3000]

Wait how tf do you pronounce that? can you add an accent bc I have no idea lmfao

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

@@FAMOUS4EVER3000 It's not hard, just sound it out. DRAE-GUHN.

[@mamiadorkorcoleman1999]

Alex The beginning is like Dra-ke

[@awesomegames114]

Dreig...it’s a word that means dragon in Gaelic.

[@FAMOUS4EVER3000]

@@mamiadorkorcoleman1999 But that sounds the same as drei-gon? whenever I pronounce dragon I always do it that way I'm so confused they read the same

[@efrenarjona2855]

I always wondered why charming didn't come in time. He was probably too far from fiona's tower. Maybe He probably was on his way to her tower while the events of shrek happened. But since it was a long journey to get there, shrek already married fiona. Thank you for uploading this video, I always wondered why he didn't come if it was part of the fairy godmother's plan. Hope you are doing well😊 you are cute as always😊

[@DawnzeenaMcGill]

The four dislikes are the villains from each movie

[@LuvB1tes]

We have 267 now (I smell more sequels)

[@elibuledi5152]

Without donkey romaticizing the dragon he would be dead too.By taking someone in and being soft and developing a friendship he actually was able to save and love fiona. The dragon was just protecting herself not fiona and by donkey seeing something beautiful in her,he was the first one showing her some tenderness. Thanks for listening to my TEDtalk.

[@lindseyjeby]

I think it also falls under how Charming loves the theatrics and aesthetics of things. He would clearly brag or use the whole “I went through scorching deserts and blistering winds for you!” In a argument to win and gaslight people. Also because Shrek is clearly smarter then him in case, he clearly chose the faster route to Fiona, while charming didn’t. Also I think that Farquaad just happen to be closer to where Fiona was put in.

[@davidaviles6253]

david joseph okay yeah mommy yeah okay yeah happily ever after okay yeah princeass fiona far far away king harlod queen Lillan okay yeah mom dad okay yeah bloody room bloody tower david fairy tale ok yeah prince charming okay yeah fairly godmonther okay yeah princeass okay yeah fiona first kiss for far far away okay yeah spell mommy yeah ok

[@carolinedisalvatore9768]

This theory also however brings up another plot hole in Shrek 2. How did Gingy, Pinocchio and the rest of the gang get to Far Far Away so fast to rescue Shrek, Donkey and Puss from Prison?

[@disneytriviabuff8188]

Dragon flew them there. According to Shrek 2 director Andrew Adamson, Dragon was going to have a more significant role in the film, having turned into a Pegasus when Donkey drank the Happily Ever After potion.

[@carolinedisalvatore9768]

DisneyTriviaBuff I kinda doubt that because if she really did fly them all there she would’ve stayed and helped out with getting to the castle. She also would’ve been turned into a Pegasus or whatever the potion turned her into at the time and had no idea what was going on. I would also imagine that she stayed behind with her babies until they were ready to fly.

[@carolinedisalvatore9768]

DisneyTriviaBuff I mean you could argue that maybe she did fly them all there in her Pegasus form but wasn’t ready to face Donkey and then immediately went back to go get her babies but still...

[@ravenred6878]

This is the Shrek fandom discourse I've been waiting to read.

[@juliedurby8333]

The had the magic mirror, and he knew a shortcut.

[@AllYellowJoshua]

You know this was all a chain reaction that started with Farquad. If he didn’t dump those fairy tale creatures in to Shrek’s swamp in the first place none of these would have happened like shrek would probably never went to the tower causing charming, fairy god mother and rumplestiltskin all these problems getting rid of shrek !!! 💛☀️

[@shiperofdeath1837]

and, if Shrek didn't have the fairy tale book, he probably wouldn't know where Fiona was

[@carolinedisalvatore9768]

Issac...you have noooo idea how much it means to me that you used one of my ideas almost a day after I commented on your last vid. Thank you so so so very much. I really needed this right now. Just thank you and God Bless.

[@IsaacCarlson]

Caroline! When I saw that list I screenshoted your ideas last night and woke up and made this. You had some awesome suggestions, and it felt so good to talk Shrek! It was perfect timing

[@carolinedisalvatore9768]

Wotso Videos Thank You Again!

[@carolinedisalvatore9768]

Oh...and You’re Welcome

[@fernisworm]

A thought popped into my mind when he mentioned Fairy Godmother cursing Fiona and how Lord Farquad was the first to send someone _else_ to rescue her; What if Fairy Godmother not only cursed Fiona to become an ogre, but she also cursed Fiona so that nobody who _wanted to rescue her_ could? (Although you could argue that Fairy Godmother could have used magic on the dragon for the same effect) As Isaac mentioned, everyone who tried to save her wanted to have her hand in marriage (or so we assume, because why else would they risk their lives to save her?), and they all inevitably died. Fairy Godmother would have known that people would only try to save her if they wanted to marry her and become her "true love", so wouldn't it make sense for her to ensure that none of these people saved Fiona? The castle itself would have been a nightmare, but what if she added a second curse as a _safety measure_ ? Now let's talk about Farquad. Sure, he _did_ want Fiona's hand in marriage, but he didn't go _himself_ , did he? He sent Shrek. And Shrek made it clear upon saving her that he did not care at all about Fiona (let alone want to marry her). Could this be why Shrek has been the only person to have made it out of the castle alive? _With_ Fiona? It's not much of a theory, but I thought it was a cool idea :))

[@tanandalynch9441]

My theory is far more simple: Shrek was always the one meant to rescue her. He was her true love and he was able to get to her not only due to this but because he was a skeptic. He didn't even believe the dragon existed until he arrived at the castle itself.

[@mightywizard7475]

My question is, if Shrek's swamp is so far away for far far away, then how come the fair tail creatures were able to get there so fast to save Shrek and donkey from prison in the 2nd one.

[@TheSkyrimps3]

Plot.

[@m.c.martin]

They likely took the same time to get there. Weddings aren’t planned in a day, and we don’t know how long Shrek was actually in Prison for

[@ivanacurna6577]

Well, here's my theory. Considering this franchise was also based on paroding Disney (thanks to Katzenberg) I think it's also follows typical stereotype tropes of fairytales. 1. Prince charming is on rescue mission save princess✅ 2. Prince has to go on a dangerous long quest✅ 3. Quest taking most 2-3 days✅ 4. Prince comes to rescue✅ 5. Prince and princess "fall in love at first sight"✅ 6. True love's kiss to break curse 7. And wedding✅ 8. On the ONE.SAME.DAY!✅ Typical trope of every fairytale that led to failure for prince Charming from beggining😒

[@BluHeartAndLostEyes]

With this video making a point on why he was late- what do you think changed in Shrek Forever After where shrek was never born and NO ONE ever saved Fiona? Ive always wondered about this- even with Charming scheduled to come and get here without Shrek interfering. Fiona makes the statement saying no one ever came for her. What happened?

[@OzzyDrixClay]

Farquad was surprised that the Orgar has fallen in love with the princess but he was going send a human. What if the Farquads thought screw this Lord 🍤 wad

[@notavailable8201]

Probably the fact that Fiona technically wasn't a princess anymore once Rumple took over in that alternate timeline meaning there wasn't much to gain from saving someone without a title. Most of those guys probably just wanted to marry her just to be King once that's gone seems like the most likely reasoning considering Charming never showed up

[@Awesomeasumpta13]

I've always thought it was weird that Charming didn't seem to wonder where the dragon was when he finally got there. Wasn't slaying the dragon one of the most important parts of his quest?

[@dracone4370]

I think another contributing factor was that Charming's mother had drilled into him that he had to not only be presentable but also dramatic, which is probably why he opted to do it the long way. In Charming's mind, I think, he figured he would get there at almost the same time as the competition and have a dramatic fight with what he thought would be the competition in addition to slaying the dragon, a dragon that was literally chained to the castles Fiona was being held in. Another contributing factor would be the fact that Donkey basically distracted the dragon by being romantic with her, and had offspring with her in a later installment in the series. Fairy Godmother was definitely a conniving, controlling narcissist, but she probably figured nobody would really pay attention to the gender of the dragon and just do what all heroes are expected to do in most classic fairy tales, slay the dragon, but that's not what happened. Shrek opted to sneak around the dragon, and when the dragon caught sight of Donkey, he used Donkey as a distraction to advance because the two were just doing the whole being romantically in love with each other at first sight, which was likely an act by Donkey at first but later turned into true passionate affection for Dragon. Now, as to why Fairy Godmother opted to make the dragon female, I have a few thoughts on the matter. Males of most species, especially dragons and reptiles in general, tend to be highly aggressive. Fairy Godmother wanted a dragon she could keep some measure of control over so Charming could come in and deal the deathblow and look like the hero he was groomed to be, a male dragon would far too difficult to accomplish that goal. While many female dragons tend to be noticeably larger than the males, they also tend to usually be more docile before having a clutch, at which point their aggression makes the male's aggression look like a toddler throwing a tantrum in a padded room with foam toys. And chances are Fairy Godmother knew this, she chose a female dragon that had yet to find a mate, and of a breed that was known to have females far more docile than the males, and basically made the dragon think the castle was its lair. Dragons, regardless of their gender, are still fiercely territorial, which solved the problem of everyone before Charming getting scorched and smashed by a dragon. Then, as part of his training, Fairy Godmother instructed Charming on the exact way to defeat that particular kind of dragon so that his win over the dragon would be assured. Dragon mothers are a natural force you do not want to be on the bad side of, and Dragon had a few little Dragon/Donkey hybrids, which means everyone Dragon doesn't trust to be around her babies gets a level of aggression that would likely shake the heavens and make the most dangerous of demons and devils fear her and her territory so much they opt to take the long way despite being in a rush.

[@brittaniemccommon2482]

I always wanted to know why charming didn't have magic of his own, knowing that his mother did. Is it just a natural disposition in this universe for only women to have natural magic? I dont think merlin counts because he had to use spells and potions to accomplish the same thing whereas fairy godmother only had her wand and never visibly uttered any spells.

[@starkiller1289]

It is highly possible that only women have natural magic I mean there is a school for it shown in Shrek the Fourth and I don't recall many or any girls around. Not to mention the fact since it's a fairy tale world wizards and warlocks would be a rarity since I can't think of many fairy tales of them besides Merlin.

[@zachphillips2383]

question! how would charming beat the dragon? he didn't seem capable to me.

[@brianlevine871]

Maybe Charming's mom would enhance his sword with magic, like what Flora, Fauna, and Merryweather did for Prince Phillip in "Sleeping Beauty."

[@FAMOUS4EVER3000]

In the Rumpelstiltskin timeline Fiona ends up saving herself, so I feel like he wouldn't have beat the dragon... Or maybe he was just REALLY late lol

[@notavailable8201]

@@FAMOUS4EVER3000 Well keep in mind Rumple was the King of Far Far away in that timeline so there really wouldn't be a point in saving Fiona anymore would there?

[@dominicabbs2439]

The Dragon was with donkey

[@hunterlawrence3573]

Maybe it was arranged for the dragon to not let anyone rescue Fiona except for Prince Charming?

[@The_Kartumata]

you know looking back on it in the film when charming walks into the castle to save Fiona he has a casual walk like he isn’t expecting to face a deadly trial like the other knights who were burned alive by dragon, but at this point since he is unaware of Fiona being gone Charming shouldn’t know that Dragon is gone as well, so if he is entering the dragon’s keep to save Fiona why wasn’t he worried unless he knew that dragon was to prevent all men from passing except for him.

[@Janoha17]

Of course, Charming was ultimately killed by Dragon. (When she dropped the tower set-piece on his head.)

[@rebajoe]

@@Janoha17 and he literally wasn't expecting Dragon to kill him that time either.

[@Queue3612]

Or he never even knew of the dragon

[@dabaruknemuhar1981]

I think there was some kind of a curse or a spellbinding that would prevent the dragon from harming Prince Charming when he entered the castle, however, when Shrek rescued Fiona and effectively broke the curse, the dragon was free from its binding meaning it could very easily scorch Charming or eat him (which it did in the third movie) because the spell was meant to ensure the dragon didn't attack the prince in the castle, but outside the castle, it was open season.

[@inkonsistency]

I always thought that maybe the fairy godmother put a spell on the tower to not allow any other human but charming to rescue Fiona and that's why all the other knights died. But since Shrek is an ogre, that's what allowed him to survive and rescue her.

[@yrn_nick5591]

Try doing some Kung Fu Panda Theories. But dont get me wrong i love the shrek theories

[@srstriker6420]

KING- NLL yeah especially the body,mind and spirit concept

[@jennieorlando8385]

Maybe some Master Oogway theories, like his full story of how he became a Kung Fu Master or how he knew Po would be the Dragon Warrior.

[@yrn_nick5591]

Jennie Orlando Real good idea

[@carolinedisalvatore9768]

I also wouldn’t mind if you talked about some of DreamWorks’ other films. Like some of their more underrated films like “The Road to El Dorado”

[@whatsgoodfam772]

Yes

[@alexlegault835]

When I first read the title my first thought was that he was too busy looking at himself in the mirror

[@Jalbesbe]

Because of the Rumpelstiltskin time line, I think Prince Charming had a time he was supposed to come and the Dragon would be gone. He isn't the greatest warrior, he's actually pretty bad fighting in the movie. The curse itself is from the fact that The king is actually a frog that got a wish granted by the Fairy God Mother to become the king. The return payment would be her son becoming king after by marrying his daughter. With the fact that if Shrek hadn't saved Fiona from the tower the kingdom gets traded to Rumpelstiltskin, shows that there was a set time the fairy God Mother had set, but the King and Queen didn't know about. The fairy God Mother not letting them know about this left her open to Rumpelstiltskin coning them all over, which he did for a hot minuet.

[@jaileegonz4065]

I always thought it was strange that charming waltzed into the castle, not even drawing arms, as though he knew the dragon wouldt hurt him

[@ericadiaz7349]

It's obvious why he didn't save Fiona, he a narcissist, momma's boy.

[@shaunessyalmeida2830]

But Charmingly Hot!!

[@SammyJ_Studios]

I'd like to know how Fiona was getting food and water up there. And who was emptying her... whatever she would have used for a bathroom.

[@rebajoe]

Good point, though when Shrek goes to get Donkey back we see a giant cauldron and cookbook, also I'm guessing there was a chamber pot that Fiona had been emptying by pouring it out the window.

[@SammyJ_Studios]

@@rebajoe Yeah but where would she be getting the ingredients to cook?

[@tacobelle6680]

@@SammyJ_Studios maybe that's why she was kind of unlady like in the first movie. Like how easily she caught all those animals to make balloons, lol. She probably ate birds and frogs and small critters. Just my theory lol.

[@itssammyejustbeingme]

Plus big thing that always bugged me. I know it shouldn't cos you know disney/cartoon logic. But seen as the king and queen didn't know exactly when Fiona would be rescued. They obvs knew it would be when she was older. But how could they have known exactly how old. So whats bugged me is the fact she had a dress on that fitted her exactly. The king and Queen had no way of knowing when she would be rescued. Let alone how old and what size dress she'd be when she was rescued. Just seems abit odd that there was already a dress with her that fitted her exactly. The fact she probs would have struggled for food could explain why she was skinny. But you know what I mean. How could they know the exact measurements she might be at that point for the dress to fit her. Unless they sent her with clothing for any measurements so at least one would fit her. But then again there is no inkling to suggest that happened. On the subject of food etc. Perhaps the fairy godmother had planned for that using magic to make food etc come to Fiona's room at a certain time every day?. She was trapped in that room so there was no way to get out. So there was no finding food etc any other way.

[@stardogsmasher6217]

The best way to describe his arrival is this... Sonic: You're too slow.

[@b26t4]

If shrek never came to rescue Fiona, she would have escaped by herself as it is shown in the parallel universe of the last movie. Prince charming wouldn't even have a chance to fight a dragon and therefore end up barbecue.

[@josephcline3652]

To be honest, I always just figured that they were certain nobody could get past the dragon. I also think that Charming was never meant to fight the dragon. I mean, he doesn't even look for Dragon when he gets to the castle, he just goes straight to the highest room of the tallest tower. In my opinion, once Charming was on the scene I'd bet that Fairy Godmother had arranged that Dragon would either be rendered not a threat, be removed from the equation entirely, or was bewitched/coerced to never want/be able to fight Charming. Now THAT'S insurance, a deadly and fearsome beast that attacks anyone that isn't the person you want to win.

[@LSween7573]

He was basically just unlucky she was up for grasp

[@AJponyAPschannel]

Actually, I’m wondering more why armies don’t use giant cookie monsters in warfare 🍪

[@DANIEL-xp5jh]

They were also very prepared to fight a giant gingerbread man

[@dustymcwari4468]

They easily found the giant gingerbread man’s weakness, and they were so fast they could even heat gallons and gallons of milk in record time while the giant was still trying to lower the bridge, they even had to do the milk bomb twice because the first one had too much froth lol

[@dance_ofThaDEAD]

I always thought that PC was to young at the time when Fiona was sent to the castle and FG made him go through extensive training before he could go save her

[@mrheroprimes]

willing to bet he was at the same Academy Arthur was training at.

[@dance_ofThaDEAD]

@@mrheroprimes true

[@catherinefilcher236]

This is the first video that I have watched from this channel and I have now subscribed. Your personality is just wonderful.

[@tillie3545]

You actually sound so passionate about the topic. I’m freaking subscribing lol

[@jk6288]

Maybe charming and the fairy godmother lived far away from the dragons keep since it took Shrek and donkey long to get to where they live

[@joehilbush7472]

Now this makes me feel bad for Prince Charming

[@geekgal3477]

Kinda, but then I remember that he was a narcissistic jerk. Then I don't feel as bad.

[@baliyae]

I don’t. He deserved to fail. Just saying.

[@notavailable8201]

That's what happens when a parent smoother their kids they become a Charming and not the good kind

[@EstaMari]

Can we also talk about how even if he did rescue her the time of day he arrived would have meant she was already an ogre. I honestly feel like he wouldnt be interested because of her being an ogre. Orrrr maybe he wants to reign and doesn’t care but idk🤷🏻‍♀️

[@shameless_days]

Ok but why was Shrek the only survivor against the dragon ? Maybe the fairy god mother (who in this theory was the one that cast a spell on Fiona) also put a spell on the castle so that NO MAN could survive. Which might also be the reason for Charming taking his sweet time before going over there to rescue her (like he clearly wasn't in love with Fiona so maybe he was procrastinating to go lol). But plot twist for the fairy god mother's spell: Shrek and Donkey aren't human. So Fiona's true love ends up being Shrek since he's the one who rescues her. The spell ironically backfired against Charming and his mother. Thoughts?

[@matthewndlovu5274]

This makes Prince Charming way more complex of a character than I thought

[@VA_Nightshade]

Given how Fairy godmother was surprised by Fiona being an ogre, I think she haden't received word from Charming that she was rescued early. I think she over estimated herself. Now, as to Charming arriveing the way he did, I think that was his choice. Fairy Godmother seems unlikely to turn down her son's requests. so, when he suggested going on his own, as he had trained for it, I think she allowed it, and didn't think much about it. when she sees Fiona is an ogre, and charming arrives, I think that is when she corners Harold, and she begins plotting revenge, and insuring Charming becomes king.

[@haylihill7041]

Shriek IS Fiona’s true love. Sorry Charming and Fairy Godmother. My theory is that Charming wasn’t Fiona’s true love, it is Shrek,

[@dapenguin1495]

Pixel Smile lol so true

[@ryliejones519]

Hey Wotso!...ever realized that Farquaad and Charming look a bit similar in appearances? WHAT IF THEY ARE RELATED???

[@ghostly7139]

I like how none of the potions in the Shrek universe has the ability to make people teleport,fly or just travel faster. Not to mention that the Fairy God Mother owns FLYING HORSES..

[@whitedragoness23]

I took it that Prince Charming took a year to journey to save Fiona. He was intent on doing it the traditional way and build up his story of heroic rescue. It shows he rather look good than save Fiona asap. Her years of being locked away didn’t matter that she was alone and sad and lonely. He probably had to save her at a certain age. Which is when he could actually save her. It was never about rescuing her and helping her. It was just about looks appearances and using her as a means to an end. One she thought she had to play out as well.

[@ggt47]

Screen writer: because. Producer: That works.

[@lialewis4485]

Maybe Pince Charming was a bit late since he had a date with Rapunzel

[@JinxSanity]

You mean the bald one that showed up in Shrek 3 who betrayed Fiona?? And yes Rapunzel showed up in Shrek 3 years before Tangled, and No they are not the same Rapunzel!! (same with the other princesses). Again Disney and DreamWorks are not the same company, they hate each other and will never crossover their characters!

[@MrGabeanator]

@@JinxSanity oh

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

juan ortiz “They would never crossover their characters.” What about Ariel in Shrek 2?

[@notavailable8201]

@@YellowBear-kx1ff That was a jab at Disney nothing more

[@MrGabeanator]

@@YellowBear-kx1ff not really ariel

[@fifiaXD]

I really like that idea that it was reactionary because in the shrek forever after, Fiona had to save herself. If Prince Charming was properly equipped to defeat the dragon which was likely the situation since the dragon was likely made by fairy god mother, he likely was busy working up the skill until they were convinced he could pull off a realistic show for Fiona. But as the word came in that someone was on their way , they had to send him out as he was. Meanwhile in the other timeline, by the time he was ready to sweep Fiona off her feet, She had already saved herself.

[@davidaviles6253]

prince charimng okay yeah princeass okay yeah princeass fiona spell okay yeah ok yeah shrek talk yeah tower crused okay yeah mommy yeah money papi spell ok yes tomorrow camp for oh yeah far far away ok yeah mommy yeah far away ok yeah okay

[@Salem_Rabbit]

Dewd you have grown. Like a lot, I don't remember the last time I saw your videos but man I am feeling old.

[@yourgiirlm3l]

Unpopular opinion: After hearing this I realize Charming had a point to be a “villain.” Honestly he seems like a victim to me & has a valid reason to be upset. It’s all his mothers fault!