Would Florida State Be Better Off In The SEC Or Big 10?

[@stephenhill1131]

Brian you are a honest guy who takes the fandom out of the equation and i really appreciate it

[@elliotthoward4738]

The Big ten is waiting for you FSU let’s get it done asap

[@christopherhooter1937]

Are they?

[@FSU.Seminoles1]

B1G here we come!

[@rockstardolla4541]

Big 10

[@jojowhite9296]

The B1G!

[@ODUCKSFAN1]

Brian, hope they join the BIG10. FSU hate ESPN and SEC.

[@Thethinker6141]

BIG 10 WILL DOMANATE THE FUTURE OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL

[@danz1182]

The better place objectively for FSU is the SEC from a recruiting standpoint and a financial one, but the FSU community really seems to hate the SEC and the SEC does not want anyone who really seems to hate them. I think FSU will settle into being a Wisconsin level program with a move to the Big 10. The Auburn coach can talk to the kid who grew up in Albany about getting to play against Georgia and Alabama and how much football means to SEC schools and the richer NIL money from SEC schools. The FSU coach has to sell the excitement of playing Penn State, playing half your games in the cold, and more academic rigor to the same kid. That is going to lose you a lot of battles. Over time, the recruiting downside and geographic isolation will make FSU a 2nd tier Big 10 program.

[@Eisman57]

Lol, listening to these SEC homers was a hoot. "If you knew, guaranteed, Florida State goes to the B1G and in year 2 wins a national title would you take that?" Hmm, winning a National Championship versus saving an hour-or-two on plane flights? As a B1G alum I knew we were academically superior but I had no idea we were competing against total knuckleheads. Let everyone know what you decide Brian!!!

[@stephenhill1131]

You are a goof ball sir

[@Doc_Boots]

This argument is stale. Flying up north isn’t any harder for football players than driving to many SEC schools or flying to a big southern city and driving to a small SEC college town 2 hours from the airport

[@paulclifton655]

Exactly

[@DaneClark-jz7lk]

Tallahassee not a major southern town itself been down that way many times it a small metro in the panhandle of Northern florida.

[@Doc_Boots]

@@DaneClark-jz7lk what does that have to do with travel difficulty for the FSU football team?

[@LO_Seminoles]

It's more complex. Every FSU team must travel. That costs a lot of money. Yes, it matters.

[@michaelbee2165]

I hope flying up north isn't any harder than driving to any SEC town. Lol. Flying across the country 2 or even 3 weeks in a row is. Then you're supposed to be a student? That the NFL plays schedules like this doesn't wash because those guys aren't trying to keep a school schedule and get that work done either. Nevermind the travel costs when your athletic department is trying to support other sports programs.

[@nnonotnow]

B1G

[@Doc_Boots]

B1G or bust

[@metallica1fan1]

FSU joining the SEC would be full of tradition and rivalries, because FSU is no stranger to many SEC teams. FSU has faced off against Florida in '96, Tennessee in '98, and against Auburn in 2013 in the National Championships. Not to mention FSU is more like an SEC schools than a B1G school.

[@brett8078]

Florida has always been in favor of fsu joining

[@DougSteinhauser]

AAU part FSU is better in B1G, also travel would help for getting in NFL standards of traveling and weather, teams are good in B1G, remember not all players translate to NFL, School are better academic in B1G, also there are lots of retirement north people in Florida , so they are of north team, OSU recruiting is better than 😢better

[@mgoboski]

I am from Michigan and went to many FSU games while stationed in Pensacola back in the late 00s/early 10s. Since then FSU has been my second favorite team. I would love to see the Noles in the Big Ten. Our 2016 Orange Bowl was epic, save for Jake Butt's career ending injury.

[@danandyumi]

The Big 12 can have you

[@Mr.Ed_Wayner]

FSU along with Clemson or Miami to the B1G makes a lot of sense.

[@scottgreaves3383]

Miami Clemson is an academic nightmare for B1G 10

[@unc0mm0n2]

​@@scottgreaves3383Miami is an aau highly ranked private school.

[@tarheel7406]

Curious... For how long and by how many professionals must it be reported that CLEMSON and FSU are low expansion priorities for the SEC (and B1G)?

[@porterwake3898]

Eventually the SEC and the B10 won't accept anyone else.

[@LO_Seminoles]

What do you mean by, "The B10 won't accept anyone else."?

[@brett8078]

The only real big advantage of big ten. Dislike of sec schools, Is west coast recruiting, more money 💰, and you get the ohio states, michigans, penn states, oregon, uscs in doak and vice versa. Other than that advantage SEC

[@larshep1197]

BIG

[@FSUMagnetic2024]

Screw the SEC, FSU to the B1G. We have spent a lot of money upgrading our airport to international status. If players want to play in the NFL, then they better get use to the colder weather and traveling.

[@LO_Seminoles]

That is also a good point

[@metallica1fan1]

NFL players don't have to go to classes after traveling across the country, or study for tests with jet lag either.

[@FSUMagnetic2024]

@@metallica1fan1 FSU has played USC before in California and flown all over the country as an independent program. Players survived that and will survive a B1G schedule. FSU ➡️ B1G.

[@roris5882]

Does FSU want to be a regional brand or a national one?

[@metallica1fan1]

@@roris5882, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, LSU, aren't national brands? Could have fooled me.

[@brett8078]

If they would pod the big ten and other conferences it wouldn't be that bad. Where you have say 4 five team pods. Take FSU, Clemson, Maryland, Penn State, Rutgers... etc

[@thecook..]

Dont mater we will win no mater where we land go noles

[@unc0mm0n2]

Brian smith: i am neutral Also Brian Smith: the B1G sucks

[@unc0mm0n2]

B1G sll the way. Screw ESPN. Plus FSU spent too much on education to go to the SEC. Hopefully FSU/Miami is a package.

[@Thethinker6141]

The sec & big 10 don't want fsu they want North Carolina

[@AuggyNole]

Hi... per... buh... lee...

[@nnonotnow]

Here's another thing about the footprint. If the big gets a couple of schools from the southeast then it becomes a truly national conference. I think that's really going to play with the fans who like some brand name football to be played. Come on over fsu. Y'all will love it!

[@christopherhooter1937]

Yes, w national travel costs for Olympic Sports ... & there went the FSU baseball program

[@photo2george523]

Big10 is better fit for FSU

[@DaneClark-jz7lk]

Yes another acc schedule only teams in the big ten or Ohio state,michigan and something called Penn state..the rest mirrors the acc flops.

[@treyabbey6477]

​@@DaneClark-jz7lkYou forgot USC and Oregon. Washington will be decent

[@LO_Seminoles]

Socially? Absolutely not

[@jb57632]

Doorbell is the goat at not developing talent, can’t develop talent but can poach from other teams.

[@zplapplap]

I’m not at all convinced that a southern conference wouldn’t be a better fit for FSU.

[@rodharris3606]

What does FSU do now you travel to Boston, Upper New York Pitt for less money

[@Thethinker6141]

FSU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THERE ACC ESPN CONTRACT

[@zzwest7230]

Could do an east division and only play one or two west cross conference games a year in Big 20

[@zzwest7230]

Wouldn’t be too different from ACC

[@jojowhite9296]

That west/east didn't play too well last round. The east with Michigan, Penn State, FSU, OSU and Clemson would be vastly superior to anything the west could come up with.

[@zzwest7230]

Yes, maybe north and south FSU, Clemson, USC, UCLA, Maryland, Ohio State, Indiana, Nebraska, Purdue and Penn State Michigan, Michigan State, Oregon, Washington, Northwestern, Iowa, Wisconsin, Rutgers, Minnesota, and Illinois Not perfect geographically, but close and fairly balanced.

[@adamb6370]

Couple things as a Gator…..1. Who is this guy? 2. UF would not block FSU. UF doesn’t want Miami. 3. I don’t think the SEC members have a problem admitting FSU, Sankey just wants new area and FSU really just overlaps with UF, Bama, Auburn, UGA, and LSU.

[@roris5882]

SEC pigeonholed themselves on a struggling woke private TV network and the Southeast region. The B1G signed a superior TV contract, with the option to control the purse strings of college football. After the B1G adds ND it's over because the SEC will never catch up to them financially no matter who they add.

[@adamb6370]

@@roris5882 so many things…..where to start. 1. ESPN is not local. 2. SEC has been projected to pass the BIG on the next round of negotiations in 2 years. Even if you add ND, that’s a big if, the SEC would not fall behind. What will fall behind is probably casual fans following FSU. FSU will start to be on an island after a few years with the fans. Nobody in Florida gives a rip about Ohio or California.

[@Donovan_Williams]

@@roris5882 Big money is already bigger. Add FSU, Clemson, ND, maybe NC UVA or UM and it will be even bigger. Its jut bigger in the Big.

[@roris5882]

@@Donovan_Williams Yup, the B1G not only has more financial security, from all of their members having a heavy concentration on academics, research, and AAU membership. They also aren't restricted regionally, so they are going to expand their national footprint into the SEC's backyard.

[@LO_Seminoles]

Zero shot ND is jumping into the B10. They have all the stability they need. The B10 is fine either way though.

[@philipcasesa3998]

Speaking for Seminole Nation....We hate the SEC, we hate Disney, we hate ESPN, we hate College Gameday, so many dumbass college football announcers and annalists, etc..... We want to be in the B1G. We don't care what anybody says. Go NOLES --------;;-->

[@FredPitre-o4b]

Good because SEC don't want the noles.

[@joeydaglio7655]

Couldn't agree with you more more. Welcome to the B1G from a Penn State fan.

[@manuelmelendez3140]

No school would be better off in the Severeky Exaggerated Coference, none I say! I have no idea why the NFL would look at this conference and see ANY type of professional level to just be dissapointed by the caliber of football players they would get from this conference. yeah, Texas and Oklahoma decided to joint the Severely Exgarrated Conference "just to prove a point", but they will only get as far as the writers and "selected few" would do the m to vote within the top 25

[@Thethinker6141]

It's 2024. We have air travel, you know. Getting to Oregon and any other Big 10 school wouldn't be a problem for them. It's not like Oregon is in China or something.

[@garynixon9035]

LOL !!!!!!

[@gabeswitala2292]

They dont want the SEC and the SEC doesn't want them. We'd love to have the competition in the Big Ten.

[@chipnole]

Yes! These guys don’t get it! B1G is more than just athletics. It’s the academic & research components that round this out. As you said SEC doesn’t want us nor we them, been that way since ‘92. Why do we want to go back to that. B1G wants us, it will be a National Conference!

[@gabeswitala2292]

@chipnole As a member school FSU would have full access to any and all other member schools research patents and vice versa.

[@mikemyrick1458]

GO NOLES #MIKEGOTUS #CLIMB 🍢💯🤟🏾

[@brandonreese1434]

If I were an FSU fan, I would rather join the SEC because in terms of road games, they would only have 6 road games in which they would have to drive 10 or more hours. Arkansas, Missouri, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Texas,and A&M. All the other teams are just 3 to 7 hours from Tallahassee. Every road game in the Big 10 FSU fans would have to drive 10+ hours. I don't know if I would want to spend the rest of my life doing that much traveling for a football game. Great video man keep it up.

[@LO_Seminoles]

Thank you for the analysis and thoughtful comments. It's also a great point for FSU fans who prefer to drive to road games. I did not consider that point strongly enough.

[@allandullivan3528]

Go NOLES The Climb Trust Coach Norvell 🔥🏈🏆

[@heartbreak25]

In summary, you'd rather join the SEC and lose 4+ games a year and sacrifice your growing academic reputation and funding that comes with it for regional culture and fear of flying to Rutgers and Nebraska despite already flying to Boston College and Syracuse? Got it.

[@tarheel7406]

The risks to FSU are mainly withering on a B1G island and fan apathy. With the SEC now with FLORIDA, TEXAS, VANDY, etc. and likely adding UVA, UNC & DUKE, the SEC isn't the same academic embarrassment. Regardless, the SEC has no interest in FSU unless going over 20 members.

[@bradscrazylife4269]

USC & UCLA AS WELL

[@midwestslim]

10

[@jamescampbell9533]

In the Big, they would be underdogs WAY less often. Same money, less competition.

[@jb57632]

Wow for a minute, I thought you were bringing on that loser from Fries hold the cold slaw. Brandon is good guy.

[@LO_Seminoles]

Brandon is honest

[@trentonsweeney9106]

Sec or bust

[@christopherhooter1937]

I don't think the SEC offer is in play - lots of reasons for SEC to pass on FSU - but if it is, given the geography, and culture, be a FOOL not to take the SEC (over B1G)

[@bradenm3]

Name all the reasons for SEC to pass on FSU...I'll wait.

[@christopherhooter1937]

@@bradenm3 Well, history for one - in 1991, many SEC Presidents and ADs moved mountains to clear the path for FSU, and there are long memories in this business; 2nd, w/ a 16 team SEC per cap to feed, and already having the Flagship Institution in Florida (aka, Gators), there may not be enough "$there$" there to add FSU. 3rd, why would Auburn & UGA want nearby FSU to fly the SEC banner? 4th, FSU doesn't look like a very good partner in all this 'ACC buyers remorse' weeping wailing and gnashing of teeth

[@bradenm3]

@@christopherhooter1937 SEC would allow B1G to tap into the market in Florida with arguably the biggest brand. I doubt that would go over well. Regardless of any bad blood or any other subjective reasoning you mentioned.

[@christopherhooter1937]

@bradenm3 biggest brand? I doubt it. But let's just pass on that point ... do you really think the geographically dysfunctional, spread all over B1G can compete w regional SEC powerhouses in Florida? I doubt it

[@christopherhooter1937]

@@bradenm3 the B1G - and B12 - may not want to hear this, but zip codes matter, proximity matters

[@NOLES-wm3ly]

I can’t wait to start beating SEC teams either way. Think it will mean more knocking them out of the playoffs as a member of the B1G.

[@Donovan_Williams]

We've been beating SEC teams for a while now. UF every year. LSU as the apetitzer to a season. Auburn for the Natty. Ole Miss a few years ago.

[@NOLES-wm3ly]

@@Donovan_WilliamsI meant as a member of 1 of the new big 2(the subject at hand). Where they can’t really hold the conf. against us anymore. 😊

[@davidfloyd9134]

Big12

[@jasonjohnson651]

Boston college, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Cal, Stanford. Look at that geography. Don’t say anything about travel.

[@LO_Seminoles]

The ACC is now awful as well. I believe that's a good reason for FSU to bolt to the SEC

[@waynebennett745]

Look at travel like this: your CLOSEST B1G member will be ~1000 mi. away!

[@roris5882]

​@@waynebennett745 I don't think you know how to read a map because Clemson, UNC, and Miami aren't that far away.

[@FSUMagnetic2024]

@@roris5882 🤣👏

[@naujelbr]

FSU will get pushed around in both of these conferences. There would be an adjustment period if this happens. It is the week in week out physical punishment FSU doesn't currently experience in the ACC. It is not a one game thing, it's the size of the lines week after week that wears you down. FSU is not ready. No ACC team can be.

[@NOLES-wm3ly]

Can’t wait to prove you wrong😊

[@LO_Seminoles]

Have you looked at the size of FSU's OL and DL lately? Apparently not. It's the same deal with recruits. The Noles are just fine.

[@joeydaglio7655]

I think your absolutely right. I've been expressing those thoughts to USC Oregon fans but they think they're going to win the B1G in year 1 boy are they in for a surprise..

[@jojowhite9296]

@@joeydaglio7655 other than a few schools, the majority will get pushed around by FSU.

[@thachad_w]

Did you look at Research money Differeces Between the SEC and B1G? Big difference . Please and stop think about this from sports only, look at the University as a whole

[@LO_Seminoles]

While a worthwhile topic, it's not something that the vast majority of fans I've come in contact with think or care about. Interesting point though.

[@thachad_w]

@@LO_Seminoles Look at the B1G Ed stuff they do as a conference .IT's crazy . tell other people you come in contact with . you have Platform Please us it to info the Fan Base.

[@tarheel7406]

Grants are not pooled/shared at the conference level. The B1G has likely reached its highwater mark, It also won't be able to maintain its historical academic metrics in the face of demo trends. Regardless, as things stand FSU is now ~100% to the BIG12.

[@thachad_w]

@@tarheel7406 Correct but being in the B1G has a higher research profile then the ACC. FSU being in the B1G Wouldn't get research money it hasn't earned. The B1G would open new research Doors

[@tarheel7406]

@@thachad_w FSU has likely already gotten any academic lift it will get from a conference association after 30 years in the ACC. Again, as things stand FSU is now ~100% to the BIG12.

[@arby163]

Mountain West

[@free-tc9xb]

😆😂😢

[@roris5882]

Does FSU want to make Millions in the SEC, as a regional brand, or Billions in the B1G, as a national brand? The B1G has a monopoly over the AAU and their is no incentive for them to go out of their way to help FSU get voted in if they join the SEC. But if they join the B1G they will have superior financial security to set them up for success FOREVER.

[@danz1182]

ROFMAO. Yeah, FSU is going to sell tons of merch in Iowa from joining the Big 10, certainly 1,000 times as much as it will in the Southeast if it joins the SEC and the Big 10 has a huge history of the athletic directors influencing the academic deans so it will definitely help with AAU membership. Please.

[@nolanj3578]

Cope

[@tarheel7406]

Still spewing your nonsense? a) Grants are not pooled/shared at the conference level/ b) I do appreciate your admitting that the B1G is unethical relative to the AAU.

[@roris5882]

@@tarheel7406 Hey, I didn't make the rules, the B1G did.

[@tarheel7406]

@@roris5882 Why would any schools with good options pick the unethical (and likely to wane) B1G?

[@RedMage409]

SEC. Don’t want FSU to die on an island in the big ten.

[@FSUMagnetic2024]

Probably will be FSU and Miami. Perhaps a couple of other ACC schools in the Southeast. But Tallahassee International Airport will accommodate flights to B1G schools.

[@adamb6370]

That how I think all FSU fans will feel after a few years. At least there were a few other southern schools in the ACC.

[@roris5882]

FSU would die on an SEC Island earning half of what all the B1G schools make, after adding ND because no matter who the SEC adds they will never be able to catch up to the B1G financially no matter who they add. Plus the only way FSU earns their AAU membership is if they join the B1G.

[@metallica1fan1]

​@@roris5882, and Michigan and Ohio State will still dominate the entire B1G. Rutgers, Maryland, Nebraska, etc., will still be terrible teams that can't recruit, and recruiting for ND will still be terrible as well, because it's still the middle of nowhere Indiana drenched in Catholicism. And new addition of Washington and the idea of playing for the Apple Cup sounds, "sooooo exciting", for recruits from the South.

[@adamb6370]

@@roris5882 why? FSU can earn an AAU anywhere. UF has had one for years. Heck USF has AAU. FSU doesn’t have AAU because it’s a research cash grab. FSU is a liberal arts college and doesn’t fit this. FSU is tearing themselves apart financially to get this. Glad they’re going to making all this $$ they are going to need it.

[@jimmyjam5453]

Big 12 first

[@LO_Seminoles]

Ya, that's not happening

[@roris5882]

The G-8 League

[@davidmead2529]

To the big 12.

[@LO_Seminoles]

No chance that happens

[@ScottyDuke-kc7uc]

Big 12 ? Your smoking crack

[@mylumberjack]

B1G