Would Tatooine's Orbit Really Be Stable?

[@SparkyNarwhal]

Nothing better than talking about the real science in Sci-Fi. I love it!

[@EnderTheWatcher]

In Star Wars extended universe, the race known as the Rakata bombarded Tatooine's surface as payback for them rising up for their freedom.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

Disney's current Star Wars Canon Group: We'll make that canon but only if they had enough diversity!"

[@titan-1802]

this is now considered non-canon and made into Legends Territory, most likely because Glassing Tatooine wouldn't make it into a Desert Planet, but more like a barren Rock like Mercury or Luna.

[@kenon6968]

​Old canon was a hot mess

[@RememberTheChase]

SPACE! Loved it

[@robbicu]

Awesome research and graphics!

[@carniiliar590]

I believe somewhere in the Comics, they mention that the planet was glassed over by the ancient Rakata Empire via orbital bombardment..and after it turned to sand. After it tried to resist.

[@NetraAmorosi]

Yea that's noted in the Kotor series as well. The slaves revolted and they glassed it.

[@supremeobliterator]

It otbits teo suns thsy can't help either

[@titan-1802]

that information has since been turned into legends territory, (likely to make it more mysterious in canon)

[@MatthewCaunsfield]

So much astronomical science in this one. Love it! 👍

[@halloduda8142]

As an astrophysicist I would like to take this opportunity to say that I am incredibly impressed with how accurate your real life science part in the beginning was! I highly appreciate the research you are putting into this

[@OrangeRiver]

Thank you so much!

[@saxondark]

Yet another great video Tyler. Well done good work and see ya Monday for the next live stream.

[@gregconnors7522]

Mind blown! Honestly, this video was amazing. You took a fictional story and made it into real science that was interesting and made it easy to follow and comprehend. Please do more of these. Reminded me of an Anton video. 👏 👏

[@OrangeRiver]

Thanks Greg! I wasn't sure how people would react to this video being more science than Star Wars, but I'm glad people enjoyed it! More like it on the way.

[@Gurianthe]

@@OrangeRiver I came to the video for the science, not really for SW

[@williammay5300]

Fascinating

[@harshalshah4685]

Thanks for the astronomy lesson, didn't know that there were so many different variants of a binary star system

[@DarthMatusHolocron]

You always get the best background music for these things. Also, obligatory need to mention that the sand on Tatooine was covered in was created by glass. It's not unknown how it was turned to desert. In Legends, the Rakata bombarded it. Tatooine was home to an advanced civilization that rebeled against their Infinite Empire. The surface was turned to glass and the survivors enslaved. The descendants of these survivors would become the Tusken Raiders. Over time the wind and geological activity eroded the glass, turning it to sand. The water on the planet is scarce because most of it was atomized by the Rakatan weapons during the bombardment Star Wars be my wheelhouse, as I'm sure you can see by the name haha

[@titan-1802]

though, the problem that many people seems to miss about the Glassing of Tatooine in Legends is that it wouldn't make it into a Desert World, but more of a crapsack wasteland

[@kevinjohnson7553]

As always, very well done! You know I found my way here due to your Trek videos but I'm seriously pleased when you touch on other fandoms too. May the Force be with you. And. Live long and prosper. 🖖

[@OrangeRiver]

Thank you Kevin!

[@DaveSomething]

tbh, everything in space is "far-far away"

[@bartolomeestebanmurillo4459]

Great analysis! I've read of binary stars that have different spectral types and my imagination runs wild on how life would evolve on such a planet orbiting two stars!

[@caedrewan]

thanks for the video- it's a complicated topic, but I'm almost positive I learned something

[@OrangeRiver]

Haha, well I'm glad!

[@SnarkNSass]

As always, very interesting. I've never had a lesson in binary stars until now. 🤓 You are really good at this Tyler. And I LMAO when you said Tattootoo😂😂😂

[@kadmii]

since Tatoo I and II are G-class stars, the system's early life would've had faint twin stars. For Earth with just the one G-class star, that put the planet into an ice planet phase. For Tatooine, that must've been the period of lushness before maturing twin suns dried the planet out. I guess this makes Tatooine hopeless for habitation on a geological timescale, as the pool (heh) of remaining water slowly evaporates into space. Sort of like future Earth is expected to dry out

[@titan-1802]

honestly, i think this would work better than the Glassing of the Planet seen in Legends, aka the place to where Non-canon information from Star wars goes to.

[@kfcroc18]

Tatooine went from lush to desert when the Rakata glassed the planet.

[@DeathBYDesign666]

They call that "base delta zero" I believe.

[@kfcroc18]

@@DeathBYDesign666 The imps do

[@DeathBYDesign666]

@@kfcroc18 I know they invented that term but I'm wondering if it's become the norm since then. Wasn't Jaku supposed to have gone through the same thing? I thought I heard that somewhere in canon or legends.

[@titan-1802]

although, this is Legends territory now, and besides... the Glassing would have done a lot more than just turning Tatooine into a Desert.

[@Vidiocity92]

"Astrometric binaries consist of a single star that seems to wobble around an empty point in space, having no visible companion." "I'm afraid we'll have to use... math."

[@shawnleeguku]

Algol being a three-star system is pretty interesting because it's the setting of the Phantasy Star series (before Phantasy Star Online). It wasn't known to be more than one star at the time of the games being made, but it had 3 habitable planets.

[@jacksavere6988]

Hey Tyler I just wanna say I totally love your channel. You’re nearly at 35k subscribers now and I’m excited to keep watching your channel grow and evolve and see what you bring to us in the future👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@jhallam2011]

He is really good!

[@SECONDQUEST]

Yeah I thought he had more like 300k subs. Great content. Great consistency meaning new subs have a lot of content to watch.

[@jhallam2011]

@@SECONDQUEST he deserves 300k

[@SECONDQUEST]

@@jhallam2011 truth

[@OrangeRiver]

@SECONDQUEST Man, I WISH I had 300k subs! Lol

[@quantafreeze]

Such a great video! I would love to see more on this subject, like delving into the indigenous life forms found there, and maybe cover intergalactic invasive species! Great job!

[@jessemay1547]

A new OR video is better than finding $8.

[@OrangeRiver]

Haha, that's what I'd like to know too! Lol

[@NetraAmorosi]

Tatooine's geology isn't want changed it into a desert world. An ancient empire is. The Rakata's empire (which they referred to it as the Eternal Empire, different then Tenebrae's "eternal empire" thing I think) which had existed long before coruscant became a city world. Long before the first republic. They had enslaved many species. The species on Tatooine rebelled and using Rakata's own tech against them, was starting to win their rebellion so the Rakata glassed the planet. Also to note the Rakata are responsible for the massive trees on kashyyyk, terraforming equipment that went rogue if you will.

[@titan-1802]

and besides, this doesn't really make a lot of sense since the Glassing would have made Tatooine into a Barren Wasteland with no breathable Atmosphere and no inhabitants.

[@jhallam2011]

Tyler seriously what is your educational background? I must know…👍😀

[@OrangeRiver]

I just have a film degree, no real science background! Lol

[@jhallam2011]

@@OrangeRiver wow

[@OrangeRiver]

@subraxas Lmfao

[@Numba003]

This was fascinating! I very much enjoy the videos where you bring the real science info on sci-fi content. Thank you. Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends. ✝️ :)

[@Gurianthe]

super cool space science stuff I'm barely able to keep up with, great stuff as always :) btw, is the James Web telescope something you'd make a video about? as started, space science is hard for me to grasp, thus the telescope importance eludes me. you're very good at explaining this sort of stuff, that's why I ask, but I totally get it if this isn't something you'd be interested in doing.

[@OrangeRiver]

I could see myself making a video about JWST, though I'm not sure what specifically I'd add to the conversation. But it's a topic that I find quite fascinating

[@kevanhubbard9673]

As I see it there's 2 ways a planet could orbit in a binary (or more stars) system;1: around all the stars where the stars are close together,2:where the stars are more distant for example Proxima Centauri they could orbit one star and the others are sufficiently far away not to disrupt the orbit.Of course more than one star means more radiation and this might have a negative effect on any life.I'm guessing any system with a White Dwarf or Neutron Star, like Sirius or Procyon, won't have life as at some point the White Dwarf will have novaed sterilizing the whole system.

[@thecondescendinggoomba5552]

Nice

[@kaotinwinterscream1143]

This was a great watch.. but I was expecting more star trek time travel!

[@MarsVee123]

First! Excellent video as always

[@OrangeRiver]

Thank you!

[@yahccs1]

I wondered if any planets could have stable "figure of 8" orbits where they alternately orbit one star then the other. That would be a crazy climate variation! I expect planets in such orbits would be more likely to get chaotic and get ejected. If we look at closer to home sci-fi, the Space Odyssey stories (2010 and 2061) had Jupiter turning into a star we would be in a binary star system here on Earth, but how much would that change the Earth's climate? I expect it would not make a lot of difference to the orbit if Jupiter still has the same mass but just got hotter and denser?! OK it just made Europa habitable. It would turn all Jupiter's moons into 'planets'!

[@titan-1802]

although, some of them would be dwarf Planets, they could possibly still be habitable, although, that depends if anything inner or outer Jupiter's orbit is stable, but no, turning Jupiter into a Star (probably a Red Dwarf) would likely make the entire Solar System unstable and likely would make its moons into uninhabitable wastelands.

[@warpdriveby]

One word: Arrakis

[@titan-1802]

although while Arrakis was the Planet that Tatooine was based off of, sadly, the Dune Encyclopedia gives Arrakis a ton of inaccuracies, like the White Hole companion orbiting Canopus, tons of... Helium Gas Dwarf's if you can call them that, and tons of more.

[@warpdriveby]

@@titan-1802 interesting point, should we consider the encyclopedia to be cannon? The other one you raise is how much more we know about space, the universe really, than in the late 50's and early 60's. When Dune was published I think NASA was still in its Mercury program, but we hadn't been to the Moon certainly. While Dark Matter had been proposed by Fritz Zwicky in the 30s, galactic masses and orbital rates hadn't been studied and the biggest, that black holes were still debated and doubted by some. I give the encyclopedia a pass on this subject but I do acknowledge it can seem to damage credibility to those with a narrower view of the context.

[@titan-1802]

@@warpdriveby although while the Dune Encyclopedia is Non-canon, the science behind it sadly isn't too great, so i guess we can go for the canonical appearance of Arrakis better then.

[@warpdriveby]

@@titan-1802 I tend to agree with that position. I think fictionalizing actual universal geography (if that makes sense) was a bad call, but I also get that it's tough to populate a universe without putting in objects of interest and background for locations to satisfy reader's experience and expectations.

[@titan-1802]

@@warpdriveby although the Canopus problem still stands...

[@TheSlayerking666]

I love this video but it went over my head and I was confused but I still watched

[@CarletonTorpin]

At 0:23 , is the pronunciation of "dearth" intentional, considering the subject matter?

[@OrangeRiver]

Haha, actually unintentional--but that still worked out pretty well lol

[@bcast9978]

Neutron stars can produce EM radiation from radio through to gamma. The amount of radiation can be very abundant. In fact some stars produce so much radiation that the x and gamma rays would kill any life nearby.

[@ricbo358]

What happened to the Nichelle Nichols video?

[@ricbo358]

@subraxas, Thanks for pointing it out.

[@gregcampwriter]

Set a course just east of Lyra and northwest of Pegasus to get to Cygnus X-1.

[@howardoberg5847]

so, possible but not probable.