Would These Sci Fi Warriors Survive Helldivers?

[@rougarabid]

Comment any questions here you’d like answered in the Q&A. If you want to help the comic join the Discord. discord.gg/et2RmVkCnc

[@missyummy1040]

Will you look into any more anime theme videos? Like maybe Chainsaw Man again or something new like Medaka Box?

[@Muslim_kakarot]

Day 5:Plzz do doom vs persona and smt ❤

[@nicholas-dv1mg]

is there a reason to do a Q&A when you have a discord we can directly talk to you through?

[@Thatoneisaac604]

any other types of content you would want to make?

[@Aspencio]

How do you use a google doc? Ive been having trouble using them

[@Azrael178]

You have accidentally sent the predator to the promised land of eternal hunt

[@error-4269]

Yeah he's going to have a field day I don't know where little boy got the idea that they don't have explosives.

[@mr.tomatohead3709]

​@@error-4269predators actually have super advanced technology, I wonder what an actual faction war for the yautja would be like? We've seen at most groups fighting but never actual armies or platoons which the Yautja could certainly muster.

[@error-4269]

@@mr.tomatohead3709 it's like judging our armies by looking at our poachers.

[@nighthawk72j80]

​@@mr.tomatohead3709 Look at the comics or some of the games. There are military predators with weapons and armor that make hunting gear look like toys.

[@deadman9335]

​@@mr.tomatohead3709They actually have a dedicated military caste which uses advanced military equipment like power armor, vehicles, artillery, and advanced weapons and equipment.

[@delphy2478]

commander shepherd is basically the helldiver prime. he's what other helldivers want to grow up and become

[@keith32482]

Dude survived atmospheric reentry UNINTENTIONALLY 😂

[@deadman9335]

​@@keith32482He didn't survive that

[@Drakence]

Well who doesn't want gravity magic

[@Drakence]

​@@keith32482definitely didn't survive that

[@BoogieManFL]

@@deadman9335 He got better.

[@missyummy1040]

"How many worlds would survive a Xenomorph invasion" pwease

[@TahniZCat2]

Samus Aran HAS to Be a top competitor here

[@dragith7899]

0, they are the perfect organism

[@The3rdSinner]

If they invade the Project Moon universe, their pretty much fucked

[@dragith7899]

@@The3rdSinner More than likely not. All of Earth is one massive hive with multiple queens and scarlet queens in the Alien franchise. All it takes is one xenomorph to cause a trillion more

[@naked_molerats_are_awesome]

:3

[@Andstetay]

"How many zombie apocalypses could surpass Crazy Dave" would go wild

[@therealgmhere5988]

With all the bat shit craziness that is plant bios, I think there's very few that can XD.

[@l0sts0ul89]

Id vote for this

[@omnimaw-cc]

Probably marvel zobs, everything else would not be able to fight back the plants

[@isaacdayton4962]

Answer is basically All of them.

[@BowserGaming-v6m]

None... Crazy Daves plants are built different (Literally)

[@darkreflection9087]

I kinda wish this was “Would these Sci fi Teams survive Helldivers” because I think some of these characters work better with teams like Marcus Felix, Yautja and Commander Shepard

[@MarioTheLiopleurodon]

Fr, either a 4-man team of these characters, or one of these characters accompanied by 3 Helldivers.

[@PuppyShooter]

As established Shepard can solo it. Having a team of 4 is just an overkill. Not that I would be mad seeing him,Garrus,Grunt and Miranda just oblitirate entire armies while making querky remaks to each other as they do it.

[@thewanderingrambler7420]

Uhhh 3 unblooded yautjas and 1 blooded they would have fun with the Bugs.

[@ShadowknightEX]

Replace Shephard, who can solo, with someone like Master Chief and I’d say this is a good idea. Chief and Marcus can cut down hordes while Alloy takes care of the objective

[@NoHandle44]

​@@PuppyShooter Tali is pretty good too.

[@nicholas-dv1mg]

the reason why aloy is so smart is because she's a clone of Elisabet Sobeck, the creator of the A.I that made the Robots.

[@spidaaahs]

nope its cause shes a woke DEI mary sue. everybody knows women can only be strong in fiction because they're women /s

[@clementfermn6711]

And her focus literally tells her a full scan of whatever she tries to scan

[@erraticwizard2719]

@@clementfermn6711 Yeah combining her innate intelligence with a tool that allows her to study the world around her pretty much assured she'd grind her way back up to full capabilities in regards to intellect and interacting with that technology.

[@dreariestcoma9254]

She also has like, a machine gun. I forget what it's called, but she has a machine gun and scattershot for dealing with a large number of weak enemies. On top of which, if she has access to mounts, she could just fly over the Terminids with them being unable to attack her for the most part.

[@umngyr]

@@dreariestcoma9254 so, shrieker swarms aside, given that the Bile Titan has barely any weakness, i think she's gonna have trouble with that one. Or ten of that one.

[@DrasticSkuba]

You can fight like a krogan, run like a leopard, but you'll never be better than Commander Shepard!

[@blademaster2390]

Ah Miracle of Sound…their stuff is criminally underrated

[@joshuahudnell7401]

FROM OMEGA TO MARS!

[@AarowSwift]

The lack of Samus Aran is criminal, but then, if she had access to all of her possible powerups from the games, Helldivers would just be a normal Tuesday.

[@coolknight2622]

The hyper bombs would wipe out many bugs and automatons

[@AarowSwift]

@@coolknight2622 It is rather unfair to have the ability to just generate a thermonuclear explosion that you can sit in the middle of and be just fine, and that's not even the crazy stuff.

[@coolknight2622]

@@AarowSwift her armor is built in a way to resist or even be immune to the bomb

[@Gaaaaaame]

​@@coolknight2622 and i remember the good ol days when "thermonuclear explosion" just meant "explosion with a lethal shock wave of 100 ft or so" XD iirc the first thing u use it for in Super Metroid is popping a glass corridor open, then it's used to break cubes of damaged rock lol

[@creaturetransylvania8943]

Yautja have much more advanced tech but it's rarely ever shown since the times we see them it's during hunts,were they bring only what's necessary to effectively hunt & kill what they have chosen as their prey. So they probably do have really powerful explosives but they ain't gonna use it if theirs something worth to continually hunt for their species.

[@cs100295]

Scarface from Predator Concrete Jungle would have been a great representative for their race since he uses most of their weapons, including mines

[@error-4269]

There is no probably they have Planet destroying bombs read the novels.

[@deadman9335]

They have so many That I would have to leave multiple comments to list all of them and their capabilities.

[@Shadow-sword]

With him using named characters for the rest, I imagine he’s talking specifically about the one from the movie who distinctly lacks all the fancy stuff offered in later lore

[@creaturetransylvania8943]

@@Shadow-sword Given he specifically says Yautja & used clips from the various movies,I highly doubt that is the case. He didn't say Celtic,Wolf,Ahab or even Jungle Hunter.

[@TyranidLictor]

Master Chief, Captain Rex, Isaac Clarke, and v1 should be next.

[@debifox2830]

V1 would just kill everything and not care about the base because they supply him with more blood.

[@justapersonz5441]

Master chief could survive it, so could V1... Captain rex though? Maybe? And Isaac Clarke, I don't think so.

[@mr.tomatohead3709]

​@@justapersonz5441that's fair, Isaac is very capable but his main advantage is his will power and psychosis, which don't do much against terminids or automatons

[@marioneira5165]

Master chief would win 99.7% of the time against terminids, 96.3% of the time against automatons and 100% of the time against both if he has cortana or the weapon and all his halo infinite upgrades. Captain rex would be an above average helldiver, he would do well and he can adapt very easily, he will specially hate the automatons because they would remind him of the clankers in star wars. Isaac clarke would die, he has no training and his weapons have very scarce ammo, they are not even weapons, they are mining equipment and he is used to fighting one enemy at a time or very small groups, not entire armies, but I think if he sneaks his way in, he could destroy 1 or 2 outposts. V1 would just mess everyone up, no contest.

[@cdnxman1326]

I don't think he likes halo very much, so, I'm not sure if chief would show up

[@JayvanX1]

The concept of Super Earth using characters from other series as POWs to fight in their war for freedom sounds very fitting

[@sunbro5558]

That's based on the assumption that anything Super Earth throws at them will survive long enough to actually capture them 😂. Especially Shepard

[@Quincy_Morris]

POW? I thought they were just recruits

[@JayvanX1]

@Quincy_Morris that's just how I took the concept, like why they won't let the characters use stratagems

[@mallardofmodernia8092]

​@@Quincy_Morristbf these characters wouldn't be indoctrinated for Super Earth so they might have "independent ideas" that aren't "democratic".

[@vocalgamer9222]

Here's an idea: Would these Fantasy characters survive Dark Souls? or something like that. Other than that, I am absolutely loving your content! Keep it up, Rouga!

[@AGleeBustHard69]

I'd toss the arisen from dragons dogma 1,online ,2 and elder scrolls morrowind, skyrim, online without mods, Genshin characters, all protags of baldurs gate 1-3 and all dragon age protags and each class fromeach race from guild wars 1-2 and black desert and vindictus in that video hahaha

[@Jamlord2061]

what about surviving the old one’s army

[@killjoy1564]

Thats what i said

[@joshuamitchell5018]

Try and complete Elden ring for the easy views instead.

[@guamson8946]

If whomever ends up in either Dark Souls or Elden Ring's world ends up being given the gift of reincarnation then they should be fine, provided they don't give in to despair and turn hollow.

[@mushroomjohnson4694]

The four of these characters together would make a very good squad. Shepherd is the brawler who can get in close, take a hit and hit back harder. Marcus is fire support. He stays at range killing anything small with the lancer and anything big with the hammer of dawn. Alloy would provide single target damage. She could easily get behind heavy enemies and put an explosive arrow in to a charger butt or a heat sink. And the Predator is the scout. He could get to parts of the map that a larger squad would be spotted. He could kill anything less than a heavy and mark anything he couldn’t kill for the rest of the squad. Predator is also the kind of diver to immediately mark the super sample rock from the map, then do all of the secondary objectives.

[@UNSCPILOT]

Honestly getting 3 out of the 4 to work together wouldn't even be that hard, Shepherd is a charismatic and versatile military leader, only trouble is the predator would probably be more interested in fighting the group rather than helping, get John 117 (Halo) in there, Courier 6 (Fallout New Vegas), or Samus Aran (Metroid) in there and you'll have a basically unstoppable team. The main concern for Super Earth then is when this unstoppable team figures our the truth and suddenly becomes worse than their greatest nightmares

[@GoliathPyroson]

24:10 Aloy has taken the machine guns off of pre-apocalypse robots and used them against her opponents before, and her Focus would give her a summary if it’s connected to any database, which the Helldivers would at least connect her to- or if they don’t, she’d find a way to connect on her own. It’d also allow her to rapidly identify and highlight the weakspots on enemies, since it does that in game. Aloy’s so good because she found an augmented reality cellphone on a corpse when she was 6 then trained till she was 19 to pass a test to become a soldier in her tribe. The focus highlights info others can’t see. Tribes that aren’t technophobic in the game engineer plenty of impressive tech considering how young the post apocalyptic humanity is, and everyone with a Focus gets a notable boost in competency in-game. In a DLC she gains futuristic nano-tech arm cannon weapons and figures those out so I’m sure she’d adapt to automaton weaponry fast

[@rylanmerritt1068]

Thank you i was wanting to say something myself but I’m glad someone beat me to it!

[@gauthierdavid5555]

Still take her 3 arrows in the head to kill one poor guys. What she have for her is called plot twist. She is cool though I give her that.

[@surtech5]

I like how he brought up her spear, despite it being brought up multiple times at the spear will not do anything until you have the proper schematics downloaded on it. The spear is like the weakest weapon in her arsenal against machines not created by Hades/The Gaia system.

[@coolknight2622]

I think that once the Helldivers see what Aloy can do especially the hacking. Then the Helldivers would want to keep her alive since I don't think they have many hackers as they see usefulness in Aloy.

[@coolknight2622]

Specifically against the automatons

[@alcidessilvaneto]

​@@coolknight2622na verdade pode ser o contrario,o alto comando pode achar ela perigosa por causa dos dados sigilosos e por isso matarem ela

[@kurt50alien]

So, looking into it, Yautja do have explosives. They have proximity mines, sure in the movies they didn't explode, but in expanded media they have.

[@error-4269]

In one of the novels they have Planet busting bomb.

[@deadman9335]

They have so much more than this.

[@libertyprime1614]

@@error-4269 They Yautjas in movies are basically on some ritualistic hike, intentionally using limited types of weapons and tools. Yautja soldiers in a real war would be using some power armors, big guns, all kind of dishonorable stuff and tactics.

[@darkreflection9087]

Sci fi Heroes vs Halo Flood Invasion

[@skeletor2994]

Depends on the stage the flood are at, but they could solo most universes if given the chance.

[@blademaster2390]

The Flood could solo flipping 40k, the flip you mean most universes

[@darkreflection9087]

@@blademaster2390 Xeelee Sequence

[@skeletor2994]

@@blademaster2390 doom universe

[@AdeptusMahin]

Xeelee is broken, so unless the flood gets lucky and manages to infect one they are cooked ​@@darkreflection9087

[@Robert-bw1in]

big mass effect nerd, was ready to get upset but thank you for glazing my boy! Appreciate you mentioning the heavy muscle and bone weave he has, I would have mentioned killing the thresher maw on foot too in case anyone questioned him taking out titans. In prey the predator had explosive drones that I think would be effective at clearing holes and fabricators, if not I could see him tossing one of the explosive canisters that are always lying around into them like a football.

[@keithsvenson568]

tbh for shepard..... there's two scenarios. 1: he's any class but biotic and does okay. 2: he's biotic class and just dominates the battlefield.

[@serioussponge6416]

The key to surviving the Terminids from my experience playing Helldivers is more crowd control than just being concerned about mobility. If you don't have the guns and/or don't stay on top of your ammo usage anyone will get overwhelmed eventually. In fact, running around in circles in a panic kinda is what the Terminids want you to do because it allows them and their reinforcements to spread out around you and more easily box you in with no escape at all. You kinda want to be a little more methodical in trying to kite and herd them together rather than just being all fast and running around randomly.

[@codyraugh6599]

Honestly depending on squad size having a idiot to run circles screaming is actually useful to get an objective done before then applying crowd control.

[@serioussponge6416]

@@codyraugh6599 lol yes someone to be the bug bait.

[@Nealend86]

I mean you are 100% right about Shepard. He's even fought things similar to both of those factions. Geth/Automatons and Rachni/Terminids. The Terminids even fight like the Rachni. They get up close and rip people apart, spit acid everywhere, and burrow underground. Have him fight the bugs on an ice planet and he'll get a real strong sense of déjà vu.

[@LT.Galperson]

The rail gun can destroy the automaton factories meaning the predator could 100% destroy the factories with his plasma caster

[@warsongchief1]

Fun Fact about the Lancer the chainsaw bayonet was added after Tai used a chainsaw against a Locust and Marcus saw how effective it was, a regular bayonet had problems penetrating the tough hide of the Locust. The chainsaw was mainly to be used to remove barricades and other blockages in a Gears path, even the manual said that it was not to be used on enemies except as a last resort and to wear proper protective gear (a full covering helmet) when doing so because of debilitating injuries due to bone fragments flying everywhere.

[@Nightwalker170]

Fighting Terminids is just another Tuesday for Marcus. The Locust fight the exact same way as the terminids AND have high tech guns. As for the Yautja, most of what we see in the movies amounts to the equivalent of a bunch of rowdy teens out with their grandparents for a coming-of-age hunt after stopping at Cabela's for some hunting supplies. Their actual military is fucking scary. Like blow up the entire planet and go home type of shit. Thats not even getting into how, armed with nothing but their wrist blades, the Yautja seeking to become a clan leader will go into a xenomorph hive and come back with the Queen's head. The CQC prowess of these guys is nuts.

[@sam-s6o]

That I horribly scary, xenomorphs have acid blood aswell, and a tail, they are fast af and hives are really big

[@LipeSun]

The fact that the Locust use firearms is exactly one of the reasons why it is easier for Marcus to fight them than the Terminids, if he runs out of ammunition, and he can easily take more of the dead Locust, which he cannot do with the Terminids, as they do not use weapons and can easily appear in even greater numbers than the Locust.

[@Lynx3033]

Commander Shepard with Space gun that shoots pocket nukes.. what else do you have to say?

[@UNSCPILOT]

I'm just imagining Shepherd and fully leveled Courier 6 from Fallout New Vegas having a ball just lobbing nuclear devastation at their enemies, that would be kinda funny to see animated really

[@nick191088]

The predator suicide bomb would nuke the entire map. They can also detach the bomb and hurl it like a grenade. The predator would essentially arrive, drop the mic, leave.

[@jacobborton3114]

For the Yautja, you appear to be limiting them to only what you've seen in the movies and have ignored/forgotten about the books, comics, and games. The Yautja definitely have access to explosives other than their self-destruct device, as well as access to heavy weapons that would have no problem dealing with the automaton factories or bug nests. They don't tend to use them on their hunts because it removes the challenge. For a more military operation, however...

[@Brodman2k]

If you added the Predator to this, you actually invited an alien to the destroyers of the Helldivers

[@zachariaravenheart]

I believe our Helldivers can handle a Xenomorph

[@ericstone2318]

Without watching the video, assuming all these characters are aligned with the Helldivers: Marcus - Survives, expert at squad-level combat against numerically superior foes, as well as giant beasts like Berserkers and Brumaks. Weapon tech is very close to Helldivers. Yautja/Predator (assuming experienced hunter) - Thrives, his cloaking tech and plasma caster gives the hunter a massive advantage over most anything on the field, not to mention his collection of weapons that are superior to most Helldiver tech, even though they're super exotic and eccentric Aloy - lol, lmao Shepard - Single-Handedly ends the war, even faster if he has a squad with him, especially since his tech is absurdly superior to anything the Helldivers or Automatons have, he would go through Bugs and Bots like a hot knife through butter.

[@Deadsnake989]

Shephard also varies wildly based on what version we're talking about. Because a Biotic Shephard vs Terminids would be like Batman fighting an orphanage. Singularity, warp, and Dark channel would absolutely fold 'nids like last Saturday's laundry with little effort. Vanguard Shephard would be zipping around the battlefield slapping automatons like they owe him money.

[@scormern]

@@Deadsnake989 Flare and Dominate would do wonders for crowd control, also don't forgot the combos. Engineer Shepard would destroys the automatons.

[@Deadsnake989]

@@scormern I can already picture an engineer Shepard hacking a Hulk and it just turning and obliterating the squad walking with it.

[@nighthawk72j80]

This is a good idea, but I think there are some points that need to be cleared up or corrected. The Predator/Yaytja: They do indeed have explosives. In some of the games, predators have used explosive charges against enemies. There are some who also use drones. That and some iterations of the plasma caster do indeed use explosive shots. Aloy: Aloy is going to be fine. Her focus is what gives her all her technology knowledge, and her world isn’t as backwards as you think it is. Ripping weapons off of machines and using them is pretty common in Horizon, so it not far fetched to think she'd do the same with the automotons. Her shields are also far stronger than you think, and she does have active camouflage. Against the bugs she's not really that screwed. Bile titans do indeed have weak spot like their bike sacks, and if nothing else Aloy has elemental ammunition. Even if you argue the bugs are resistant to acid, she has electric, plasma, ice, and fire ammunition, even adhesive to slow them down. And thats not coubting the armor piercing or explosive ammunition. Living creatures do indeed have vital organs that can be targetted. The other bugs aren't much of an issue either. The fodder get cleaned up by her multitude of traps and AOE bombs that leave aftereffects. Stalkers go invisible? There's a machine called the stalker that does the same thing, and then some. Shriekers can fly? Plenty of machines can fly and fight at range or up close. Nothing the terminids bring is new to her. I'd say she does almost as good against them as she does against the automotons.

[@codyraugh6599]

For the Youtja yes, but it was funny. It still comes to the numbers issue for Aloy though, Automatons in a single drop on 6+ are more than what she typically encounters in a single fight. And for the Terminids, it's her default gear vs the bugs with their absurd numbers, when every large nest has 2 chargers on spawn and a number of bile nursers (no real weak point but not artillery) or bile spewers (has the weak point but fires as artillery...sometimes) basically she would have to do a full stealth drop which players have done full stealth drops but if things go loud she's not going to have any real response on a big world while automatons honestly her going stealth is great because that gives her time to gear up... So long as a flair isn't fired or she stumbles into a gunship tower she'd be awesome against them though I doubt their tech would last even under her care.

[@nighthawk72j80]

@@codyraugh6599 Aloy should be able to get away if things get ugly. Forbidden West gave her some massive buffs. Between the smoke bombs and active camouflage stealth is very much on the table. And if direct combat is inevitable, a sling with elemental bombs and an energy shield should help with fodder. I guess it depends on what you're limiting her arsenal to. There's a dozen different weapons to choose from, especially if you want to add in DLC weapons.

[@unnecessaryammorack]

If you shoot out the Bile Titan sacks it still lives. All it does is makes it more aggressive and faster so it can catch to you and stomp you since it can't spit acid anymore. Plasma, fire and electricity don't do much to it either. Idk about ice since there are no ice weapons in Helldivers. Basically only very high calibre weapons can kill a titan. It's even too armoured imo since I find factory striders even easier to kill

[@nighthawk72j80]

@unnecessaryammorack I'm pretty sure people have killed bile titans with flamethrower and napalm. If that doesn't work there's still armor piercing spike throwers (javelins) that can bypass the armor of large machines or the possibility of acid ammo to nullify armor. If all else fails, use the active camouflage valor surge from Forbbiden west and run away. Even Aloy knows when it's time to disappear.

[@unnecessaryammorack]

@@nighthawk72j80 Unfortunately no, you can't kill a titan with flamethrowers or napalm, only remove the acid sacks. Acid against bile titans may work though because you can get a bile titan to kill another one by making it spit acid on it

[@tterminatormc4705]

Hey the predators in the comics of the yautja plasma grenades they don’t have a name it’s just like the halo grunt grenades you through a ball of plasma that explodes

[@skyrimassassin5626]

Now as a big fan of Horizon I do just want to point out some things. You did a great job but I just wanted to point out some things that give Aloy more survivability and correct a miss conception. Spoilers to everyone else I highly recommend this game series. 1. She actually does have a lot of area of effect tools and weapons that can help tremendously against groups of enemies and even big ass guns that she's gotten off of enemies she's killed (though they are temporary weapons) and there's even a rapid fire crossbow shotgun thing called the rattler (the best damn thing ever) and fast firing one shot crossbow so she can most likely handle most guns or has enough options for a few encounters. I've literally ended up getting into those situations and while they're tough, if you got full storage upgrades you can take on an entire army or big portion of one, hell that's actually the final battle in the first game. 2. She also has melee skills capable enough to take on packs of small to medium machines without firing a shot and she has a lot of buff items to keep her going. 3. She actually has a lot of ranged precise explosive weapons like the Blast Sling (Which travels in an arch) that could allow her to hit the nests without being right on top of them or even in the base. 4. Hitting the components make killing the really big machines easier but they can be killed by just hitting the general body of it though it takes a while her bows have a ton of power and she does have fire ammo and other ammo types to slow down or whittle down big targets and her Focus (a mini super computer on her temple) works on biological foes too so she can learn what makes them tick but not as well if they were tech. 5. She actually has had to fight a shit ton of flying enemies and has counters and has had to fight a pack of machines that turn completely invisible and shoot at her with mini rail guns or devastating melee attacks so she can counter that. 6. She's actually a clone of one of the smartest people to have lived in that alternate world so her brain is more naturally tuned to tech, especially since a machine made her but she also learnt about tech more than most (because she definitely isn't the only one who can do what she does) is because she had access to what is essentially a super computer since she was a kid that was made so anyone can learn how to use it. She was also trained by one of the greatest hunters in an entire region since she was a kid, I just wanted to defend that there is a reason why she's a badass like she is.

[@wanderer3323]

Everybody gangsta until some dollar store T-800 calls in dropship. And it drops dozen of shield devs. And dozen rocket devs. And dozen berserkers. And a tank. Good luck. Oh, btw, you are in range of enemy artillery.

[@skyrimassassin5626]

@@wanderer3323 ah yes and fighting around 20 similar machines all with lasers and rocket launchers and a big ass robot bird that shoots lightning at you like Zeus isn't even remotely as tough. Also some of them have shields and send out like 50 mines all around you that explode immediately

[@wanderer3323]

@@skyrimassassin5626 Uhuh, I hope they all also comes from every direction at you and ragdoll lock you, right? Right? Because if not then "isn't even remotely as tough" doesn't sums up.

[@skyrimassassin5626]

@@wanderer3323 oh they can knock you around pretty good, especially in the second game

[@Dokari-l9m]

@@wanderer3323you just hit me with trauma when I played the game and made the mistake of rolling into the wrong group of machines.

[@Cellmate]

I'm really surprised you didn't include any of the Predators from the AVP Extinction game. There's so many cool Predator types that could cause some mayhem on an automaton world.

[@darkreflection9087]

Sci fi Enemies vs Helldivers

[@wander-0014]

Ooooh, it be fun to see the helldivers try to fight the grineer or corpus from warframe they have pretty good enemy variety like. Another fun one to see would be like the sith or pre genofage krogans.

[@darkreflection9087]

@@wander-0014 I was thinking Killzone Helghast

[@LipeSun]

​@@darkreflection9087The Helghast would be more or less like automatons, they could cause a lot of damage, but I don't know if they would do much better, maybe even worse depending on the aspect you analyze

[@darkreflection9087]

@@LipeSun Yeah and the Helldivers would definitely hate the Helghast because their pretty much space nazi’s so the Helldivers might just get a rage boost when fighting them

[@redpilledman3023]

I think you should do match ups where the helldivers fight other sci to enemies. Like covenant, Prometheans from halo, the factions from titanfall maybe, the aliens from crisis, or xenomorphs could be an interesting battle.

[@matthewredenbaugh1110]

The predator can set a timer on his suicide nuke then throw it and run away.

[@patrickjoyce4521]

ok that works for the first batch of bug holes, what about the other 7 spread through out the rest of the map?

[@matthewredenbaugh1110]

@@patrickjoyce4521 dead

[@origamiman7891]

@@patrickjoyce4521do you know how large a nuke is?????

[@patrickjoyce4521]

@@origamiman7891 a nuke, yeah, the predator suicide bomb, not anywhere near comparable.

[@nelsonsham2368]

Tbf, Helldivers been launching ICBM into the same planet they are in and the Terminidsand bots just keeps spamming, so nukes is not really a permanent solution

[@robertmcpherson138]

Couple of minor things about Aloy... the only reason she's a tech genius in her world is that she ignores the taboos of her society. The ruins of the old world and profane grounds, simply going into them is cause for exile. She is curious about things that everyone else shuns and ignores. Also in terms of her making use of guns and having to learn from scratch... actually she is already somewhat familiar with them. There are raiders who hide out in old world ruins and cobbled together gatling/chain guns, which Aloy can use without too much difficulty aside from their weight (which she can train to handle better). So she could adapt to using firearms pretty quickly if the situation demanded it, but it would still likely be a last resort as it doesn't fit the rest of her skill set.

[@AHandleWasAlreadyTaken]

Honestly Helldivers 2 is probably the easiest universe to survive in. Just stay away from super earth and don’t attack the terminids or automatons

[@LipeSun]

Any universe is easy to survive if it applies this logic

[@AHandleWasAlreadyTaken]

@@LipeSun not warhammer

[@somerandomdude7785]

@@AHandleWasAlreadyTaken Yep. The Southern Quadrant is still safe as of now.

[@tau-5794]

Any universe is easy to survive in if you're far away from anything that would kill you

[@AHandleWasAlreadyTaken]

@@tau-5794 helldivers is smaller than a lot others like warhammer for example

[@irishkiwi477]

When you think about it... The IMC and Militia Corps use helldiver methods of dropping people in from space on a massive scale, The IMC imo could wipe the floor with a lot of sci fi factions, the people we fight in TF|1 and TF|2 are just remnants of an expeditionary force, the main forces of the IMC are still in the core worlds, Pilots are just spartans that trade armour for ridiculous mobility and gear like grappling hooks, invis, and creating fake holograms, not to mention that they can sock a robot in the chest and instantly kill them with bare fists. Titans are really underrated, they can literally go into an alternate dimension for a limited time and northstar has a massive railgun that i would bet can pierce a tank pretty easily

[@zakkmarchant]

The militia already uses those tactics at the start of the TF2 campaign

[@JT_The_Banana]

See , the thing is with the Termanids is that , they can't see , they use their heightened smell and hearing to hunt , that's why you can't sneak against them in the game so stealth isn't an option with the Nids

[@venlil]

You can sneak against them it just doesn't work super well because they are everywhere and you can't really complete most objectives without engaging them directly

[@Gab12345BR]

​@@venlil actually you can't, cuz they sense vibration from the ground, so no way to be stealthy

[@KaoretheHalfDemon]

For the Predators they would have a much better chance if you went beyond the movies. Most if not all of their actual military weapons are *FORBIDDEN* to be used during hunts because of how powerful and unfair it would be to use them against prey. For example Blazer: The blazer is a shoulder-mounted energy projector used by military caste Yautja that fires a sweeping inferno beam. Killscreen Generator: This weapon uses dark plasma streams guided by a tracking device that neutralises any incoming projectiles up to and including rockets Burner: Burners shoot streams of hot plasma, they resemble and function much like a Human assault rifle

[@KaoretheHalfDemon]

Oh also they do have remote mines.

[@wardtristan7838]

17:49 Argument for the predator, in some of the other media involving the predator, they actually do have explosives. For example, in the 2012 Alien vs Predator game, the predators have mines that they can toss down. So they can actually complete the mission, albeit with mines instead of grenades. (PS, Yautja is pronounced yow-cha, if that helps)

[@enderskunk7515]

24:08 actually she has, while they are not in her standard arsenal she has pulled heavy weapons like mgs and rocket launcher from enemies before

[@clementfermn6711]

28:06 gotta say Aloy literally have invisibility. Like theres a whole skill tree for her to be actually intractable. So i think she'd fair a bit more just by getting in and out. And she has her focus than can tell her everything about anything she scans! So for Automatons shes the perfect counter to all of them. She could infect tthem with a rouge A.I. that can take down a whole camp, or just go gunsblazing and take over multiple units to turn them against the Automatons

[@jtfox8583]

If aloy overrides a factory strider, can it make more machines loyal to her?

[@unitfifty-five7372]

Ngl i wanna see which other sci fi peeps survive helldivere :D this is sweet!

[@racheecha974]

It’d be cool to find sci-fi “equivalents” of the helldivers (Clone Commandos from SW, Halo Spartans, etc) and see how they would fare in the helldivers universe. You could also spin that as Helldivers VS other sci fi fictional militaries too, not just big monsters ;)

[@wingblade6023]

I'm surprised you didn't pull out Master Chief for this one. Also, Aloy is the one character I think would side with the Terminids. Stealth around them enough and you'll start to notice they act far more human-like, some even singing while marching. The moment she connects with them and learns their history, is the moment she'll turn against Super Earth.

[@UNSCPILOT]

Shepherd would likely be right there with her, it's not even a first for him/her after meeting the Rachni, he'd probably view the Super Earth government to be like Cerberus if they got what they wanted and become their absolute worst nightmare

[@LipeSun]

This could work with the Terminids of the First Galactic War but certainly not with the current ones, who are much more aggressive, brutal, and even if they still have some intelligence, they certainly wouldn't trust humans

[@austinellis2358]

This one seems more survivable then most universes

[@lordromanyx]

The whole "we don't like you so use your own weapons" is something I could definitely see the Helldivers doing.

[@DakotaCastille]

The predator can just sneak in to the base and cause everything to malfunction making the weapons blow up since they use plasma so pretty suspectable to blowing up

[@RamenHutt]

You gave gears the hammer of dawn so the predator should have his ship which should be more than capable of blowing up bases.

[@LipeSun]

The Hammer is a classic and widely used weapon in Gears, while predator ships are vehicles that they normally do not use during combat, giving the Predator access to such a thing would be like giving Marcus a helicopter or a tank

[@RamenHutt]

@LipeSun i wouldn't personally be adverse to him having a tank/helicopter except it doesn't go with the hell divers aesthetic. Exept it does with the new walker update. Still no helicopter though.

[@RamenHutt]

I guess with my logic shepherd should have the Normandy, but he is already broken enough.

[@captainwaffles6576]

it's funny to see that in 19:11 the hunter may be the lowest in the caste and you do not know of the higher castes that make the hunter look like poachers and can have a full-on war with the bots if needed. I saw in one of the games how they destroyed a ship with one shot so their military is very well-equipped to destroy bases

[@SilverFoxeGames]

Just wanna ask, will you eventually revisit the doom survival series? There are some characters (particularly V1 from ultrakill and samus from metroid) that might have potential of soloing most of the demons, and i really was excited to hear you talk about how exactly you’d think V1 in particular would do

[@diegoandresbarriagarcia2334]

Doom guy: am I a f**king joke to you?

[@dakotarock6422]

Awesome vid bruv! Along with Shepard add in any Space Marine from any Chapter or many others within the WH 40k who would make Helldivers their Biatch

[@Bangcat]

Predator would make a nice support stratagem for chaff whacking.

[@aaronbranstetter5433]

The thing these survival vids need is a final round where they're all together, cause I just like the idea of seeing a team of all these dudes.

[@Quincy_Morris]

13:05 ah he is a true Helldiver then

[@djams8477]

Ur too hardworking man Idk where to start u make so many videos 😂

[@Meatwesal]

Depending on if you want to include the games, the predators do actually have bombs. I believe it was avp2 and avp 2010. They hurl them, and it loges in a wall or a floor or something. And they can press a button on the wrist gauntlet to set it off. Or if something enters its range. Pretty big explosion.

[@Ghostly_One1]

Gears, reason for the lancer chainsaw is cause the locust hides are just way too tough. The old lancers had a bayonet just like you said, but although they can work in the game they lore-wise apparently had a tendency of just snapping right off.

[@Artryom]

Basically useless to try to penetrate them head on, you gotta tear right through and it takes a minute for it to do the job, too long for being on the field but you gotta do what you gotta do. The unkillable Tai Kaliso with that W for figuring it out. The COG was getting ate up before it.💀

[@Furi_S_Poi]

*adds the ultimate hunter to the Helldivers world* *The Yautja breathes heavily, knowing the hunt will be eternal*

[@Quincy_Morris]

26:20 literally it is how biological creatures work. It’s what vital organs are.

[@blackassassine2562]

Yautja do have weapons that would help against Automaton Factories and Terminid Bug Holes... the weapons that they use, atleast those which are shown, are for hunting only. They are not for extermination. In the Yautja culture using highly developed weapons, or weapons of war against another species is seen as a weakness, it takes away from the thrill of the Hunt, which is litterly the thing that makes them Yautja, the Hunt is their entire culture. In the Aliens vs Predator™ Videogame released on 16th of February, 2010, it was shown that a Yautja "Mothership" destroyed the USS Marlow, a Bougainville-class attack transport ship of the United States Colonial Marine Corps, which was deployed as a response to a distress singal after a Xenomorph outbreak on BG-386. After analysing the ship's constitution (wether or no it was armed) the Yautja frigate immediatly opened fire, after having briefly decloaked. It took just 1 shot. Technically speaking the Yautja could infact use the same weaponary as a orbital strike, but as I said it is considered cowardly, a weakness. If the Yautja is a Bad Blood then it would fare a lot better since they would use cheap tricks.

[@Wildgamer2205]

If you do a second video about this add the Master Chief and Noble Six from the Halo games because knowing how deadly those two are the bots wouldn't stand a chance. Also can youadd ARC trooper Fives and Captain Rex from the 2008 Clone Wars Series and Commander Fordo from the 2003 Clone Wars Micro Series if you don't mind

[@MeddlerPropagandist14]

Hear me out! Can Master chief and noble 6 single handily win the war in helldivers?

[@Wildgamer2205]

@@MeddlerPropagandist14 against the bots yeah 100% but the nids on the other hand that's more of a mixed bag

[@TarsonTalon]

"Gordon doesn't need to hear all this, he's a highly trained professional." I think Gordon Freeman would be fine in Helldivers, especially the Black Mesa version. Late game, he has a thruster pack and the science team keeps teleporting in ammunition. The Gluon Gun would probably be OP AF, and he's a walking armory besides that, who can also pick up, figure out, and use alien weapons (because he's a NERD). Lastly, his trusty HEV (Hazardous EnVironment) suit allows him to tank about two tanks shells, and be resistant to acid. So he has speed, armor, weapons, and 'limitless potential'. Yeah, I think Gordon Freeman wouldn't only survive, he'd become FEARED. He's the guy that solos entire planets.

[@Guy76I.K.D.J]

Predator is like a stalker on steroids, bro can turn invisible, it’s going to be a pain in the ass to kill, except he actually uses long range weapons which makes him way harder to kill.

[@mystery_exe]

Weird that you picked out a mission type that only has 12 minutes of mission time, but talked about it as if it were the regular 40 minutes.

[@Lazarus_1.0]

Litteraly everybody’s thought at the end of the video: *“Wheres the fucking Master Chief? I want him to go down there, single-handedly WIN the war against all two and maybe three factions, and then go home to bang cortana.“*

[@karkkosvolfe]

Let me introduce you to Dante, Chapter Master of the Blood Angels. Those bugs would be a vacation for him after the last "Defend Ba'al" operation

[@robertmcpherson138]

OK so the Predators... A: I'd be flabbergasted if a space fairing civilization didn't have *SOME* kind of explosives they could deploy. We never see them use anything like that because they never really *NEED* to... soo you could possibly argue a hand wave of if they understood the mission they could figure something out. That being said, B: They may not even give a shit about the mission. A planet full of deadly murder bots/bugs is a fucking holiday resort to these guys.

[@Furi_S_Poi]

I will say. When it comes to Predator, they live for the hunt. However, they will adapt to certain situations and use things they dont normally have. You have to remember, they keep and may even use items from previous battles. Just because the Yautja is against the Terminids and Automatons doesnt mean he cant just throw the grenades back to the automatons, or retrieving an explosive from a helldivers area (wether they consent or not)

[@danikirk5774]

Thing with Fenix.... the dude is used to going down holes to fight hordes of enemies, even hand-to-hand.... the grunts of the Locust attack in swarms, they're fast af, and engage up close. Yes The Hammer of Dawn is strong, but he closes up Locust holes all the time using his grenades. Also, those granades have longer range than normal grenades. Not to mention the enemies he faces in GoW 4 & 5, Snatchers & such... he's able to deal with them... he also faces off against a ton of bigger locust... like those giant siege beatles or the giant kracken-like bugger....

[@nidhoggr8193]

Shepherd would destroy a planetary perimeter in a day and stop to rizz up the aliens mid fight with extreme success. He'll come home for lunch and bring back a robot girl.

[@RedneckRapture]

There is a major thing you forgot with the Helldivers missions though. It's a teeny tiny very major thing. *Destroying bug nests and bot fabricators is not the primary objective of any mission a Helldiver goes on.* It is something tertiary you can do along the way as you accomplish the primary mission objective. There are also secondary objectives where you are supposed to fuck up special structures or arm an artillery cannon to help you fuck up the enemy. While it doesn't change much for Fenix or Shepard, it greatly changes things for Aloy and the Predator. Aloy's greatest advantage is stealth. Well, the bugs operate off scent to track your ass down and kill you as much as sight so she's fucked either way there. On bot worlds though, they got Eye of Sauron style detectors that drop three dropships worth of fuckery on your head when you are detected by anything, and they *will* detect anything that comes close enough. There are also roaving patrols of gunships that have a large detection radius and stay out of bow range, lobbing rockets at you. Then there's the primary missions. When you start doing those, the enemy knows exactly where you are and always comes in force. I don't see any way she'd survive and accomplish the mission objective. The Predator, though. Major change for the better. He can stealth his way over to any primary objective and complete it, then extract easy peasy. He'd get in trouble if he thought a Bile Titan or Hulk would make a good trophy on his wall, but if he stays mission focused, yeah, he can win it. He'll be thought of as a pussy by the Helldivers because he didn't accomplish anything but the primary objective, and if the primary objective is to blow up anything yeah, he's fucked. Most primaries are go here, activate this, then watch the fireworks though so he'd do fairly well.

[@Sorain1]

"Destroying bug nests and bot fabricators is not the primary objective of any mission a Helldiver goes on." What about the Blitz missions? Isn't that literally 'hit this many nests/fabs in X amount of time' as a mission?

[@RedneckRapture]

@@Sorain1 True, forgot about those, but those are what, two missions out of all the other mission types? For a 'gotchya' comment, this isn't really a gotchya. Along the same lines, there are missions to just straight up kill bots or bugs, with no holes or fabricators to destroy.

[@seltortatkin3853]

You know what a better soldier is than Shepherd? Any of the soldiers from the Contra series. They run through waves of aliens without any fancy weapons or armor. They die from one hit, which means that not only are they totally badass running around in sleeveless shirts, but they have to be agile and dodge bullets.

[@erichthegraham]

Great video, you should do the reverse and talk about invasions that Helldivers could fight. I was in the HD discord earlier, and since that came up I'll share that I think the Helldivers could beat Necromorphs from Dead Space, but would have a tough time with the flood from Halo. I feel like they are a little better off than the grunts from Halo (UNSC, right?), but have no Master Chief to bail them out, forcing them into a pitched engagement. (Long post from here) To be fair, Helldivers are canonically prohibitively expensive. It's part of the absurdity of the HD universe, everything is simultaneously expendable and ridiculously expensive. In fact, I might just try to write a short story about the guys whose job it is to recover their lost equipment. Anyway, these characters would at best be considered mercenaries and would not be approved for any stratagem budget. Marcus is from the original cover shooter, cover wasn't really a thing before Gears, which is wild to think about now. I believe it is pronounced "yow cha," almost "ouch" with a "cha" at the end. Similar to "yowza" but with a sound similar to the "ch" in check instead of a z. One thing I always remind people is that as badass as Predators are, they have reverse plot armor, they always lose. Could probably get some good kills though, I could see one keeping a stalker head as a trophy, that would be a good fight. Just don't send them after a bile titan. Chargers probably cause them problems too. I feel like they wouldn't bother fighting automatons since there is no honor in it. Man I was thinking Aloy wouldn't get far since I haven't played the game but it only took a few lines before I realized she would decimate automatons easily (watching her take down an AT-FS would be sick, but she would have to isolate it somehow). Would probably struggle against terminids though. One thing you showed in that one shot, though, is that SHE CAN SWIM. That is so huge in HD universe, on top of the climbing she got better mobility than the jump pack. I disagree, I think she could take down a bile titan or a charger, that's actually familiar territory for her. Bile Titans lose their ability to spew if you bust their sack, and she has freeze stuff and explosives to deal with chargers. However, a bunch of them would give her problems, and they are never alone so fighting them while fighting smaller bugs would be her undoing. On the plus side, she has high escape potential. The terminids are somewhat easy to outrun in a lot of situations, can't swim, and it would be tough for the bugs to chase her on that parachute thing... until you remember the shriekers. I honestly think the flyers and the stalkers (even hunters) are a way bigger problem for her than a BT or charger, those are familiar territory for her, they have exploitable weaknesses. She could do a mission, just not on Helldive, she probably have to keep the difficulty down low, and ammo is a huge concern for her since she can't make more. She could probably improvise ammo from bots. Damn right Shepard owns, even the basic soldier class has way better shielding than anything in HD. The guns in ME are all railguns, imagine a pistol capable of blowing the head off a charger just by mag dumping. Tech powers would clap automatons, infiltrator has stealth, engineer has turrets galore without the friendly fire or long CD, Biotics clap everything so hard is not even with talking about, Sentinel can fight either faction, and the Vanguard...boy howdy, the vanguard would be hilarious. Not to mention he gets heavy weapons and his basic rifles and pistols are stronger than HD machine guns.

[@erichthegraham]

Was talking to a friend, they added that Marcus is actually pretty fast when sprinting. Also Predators don't have to SD to use their wrist explosion, they can use them like c4, so they actually could complete the mission

[@nameynamd9212]

Considering the talk of Necromorphs being possible, maybe it wouldn't much of a challenge, but the alien invasion from XCOM could be interesting(probably not the remake XCOM 1 since the difficulty there is the arms race, which wouldn't be present here, plus XCOM 2 pushes the idea of psionics more, which would be the biggest challenge to overcome)

[@erichthegraham]

@@nameynamd9212 The illuminate have some low level psychic abilities. They just flip your controls, so I think the XCOM invasion would definitely still pose some problems. Imagine a fully mind controlled Helldiver, that would be tough. Actually, mutons have plasma and bulk, yeah the more I think about it, while the Helldivers would probably win due to numbers that outpace the invasion force, the skirmish level would be tough. Those mechs would be about as tough as an Automaton heavy. It'd be a good fight

[@darkreflection9087]

I hope we get a part 2 of this because I want to see how Titanfall Jack Cooper and BT would do Edit Or Master Chief

[@DanielBuddenhagen]

They did do a Predator vs Terminator in a comic when Skynet was trying to control the Xenomorphs

[@JONGRAMCRACKER]

Quick notes on both Factories and Bug nest in HD2 you can blow them up from decent range, I often employ hit and run tactics on big nests/bases, it's usually the fastest way to deal with them, the only catch is you might have to work your way around to get angles to shoot directly into either the front door or vents on the factory or the front of a bug hole. But an important correction is that if you make a big enough boom close enough or with enough armor pen, either will still be destroyed, it's basically just that the targets are armored from other directions, mess around with thermite grenades if you don't believe me. Marcus is def fucked but he could kill nests, just... it won't matter. The Predator canon would 100% blow up bases for either, in game Quasar canon does basically the same thing. Aloy can basically employ the same tactics as anyone with slow fire weapons on heavy difficulty, but her weapon is only going to make noise at impact point which is her biggest advantage. She can survive bug it's gonna be tricky but you can outmaneuver bug attacks which she definitely has the ability to do.

[@WhiteThorn-95]

19:39 Terrifying. A predator stalking a terminator as it goes from bunker to bunker wiping out every human, studying its tactics, occasionally it takes a pot-shot at or sets traps for the terminator to see how it reacts. Until...

[@satanstangent5246]

The perfect soldier of gaming? *BFG Division starts playing*

[@Shadow-bc5nr]

Maybe Hell diver command can provide some strategem support for the predator so he can actually finish the mission :)

[@minorsmile0942]

You forgot to mention that the Stratagem Jammer would probably effect the Hammer of Dawn. He would still probably be fine if he has grenades or mortars though. EDIT: I feel like hed probably fare a lot better against the Terminids if he also had a Booshka or a Gnasher. If he just has a Lancer though, yeah, he's kinda screwed.

[@thomaswilson8022]

How much of the lore did you look into for each of these characters? Because it doesn't seem like you did a great deal of research, especially if they get to bring all of their gear from their respective games/lore. Just sayin, no disrespect. I'd really like to see you redo this after doing said research. Also, just outta curiosity, if the character you sent has a ship or crew why didnt they get to take them/it with them? Aloy I guess would be the only solo maybe idk? Sheppard has his own ship and crew, predator does too, Marcus has a team, you get the point.

[@Lensver03]

Blowing up automaton factories and bug holes is optional (exept one mission type), so the Predator could finish the main missions easy.

[@nuttherbutter4075]

In Predator Concrete Jungle the main Pred was exiled to what was quite literally a Terminid planet for 100 years and wiped out every single bug with absolutely minimal gear. And that was just the prologue. Predators also absolutely have explosives, they just don't use them on hunts since they consider it dishonorable and would make for trophy collection difficult. A bad blood Predator though would not care and just go sicko mode.

[@KakhaPrime]

an EDF soldier would cleanse the whole galaxy of terminids and automatons within a week

[@topcatchillinbytrash]

This channel is so much fun. Keep it going dude

[@agenteldritch6971]

Dude hammer of dawn gets shot out of the sky. Its a satellite in a setting with orbital cannons aplenty. I think you give marcus way less credit than he deserves though. I think he’d be fine. Gears three had some pretty good examples of cogs fighting massive hordes of enemies rushing at you. May I also remind you that locusts have skin as hard as some stone and that chainsaw cuts right through them. I think he’ll be fine.

[@danikirk5774]

Yea, that's what I'm saying. Gears 3-5 just show how badass Marcus is.... i mean, the dude was in his 50s in GoW 5, and still kept up with the younger characters, hell, he's faster than them at times

[@darkreflection9087]

19:37 Agreed that sounds f$&king awesome

[@pimpdemon9458]

Going by the comics the yautja has Grenades in fact in the Comic Alien vs. Predator: Sand Trap the yautja straight up creates a pretty big explosion with a single Grenade. Big enough that one might actually be enough to destroy a automton base

[@nidhoggr8193]

My thinking with Aloy is that while she does kill some pretty big things in the game. She always does it in eather a one on one to two on two fight. She has been shown to struggle and most of the time completely fail at fending of hordes. Also the atomatons have lasers, artillery, and jamer tech. The guns will with numbers and variation to through you of guard so the horde kills you. The atomatons kill you with overwhelming fire power and armor support.

[@aquavelvetica2725]

The DOOOOOOOOOOMSLAYEEEEEEEEEEEER would probably also just fuckin' steamroll everything

[@MMAddict39]

Yautja have incredibly advanced technology and weaponry, they absolutely have powerful explosives. Before a hunt they take the weapons they deem to be the most appropriate for the given situation which tends not to be explosives as they prefer stealth. If they were dealing with the Automatons they would bring in explosives as they tend to see robots as just advanced weaponry so dealing with them in a more honorable fashion is not really required. They could also just have their ship bombard a target from orbit if they really needed to.

[@doge5280]

No one of them can survive Helldiver, because of something called STRATAGEMS.

[@GenoReaper333]

Cloud would have been a funny mention, his super stats, his materia, and summons, just soloing missions

[@ThatGuyOrby]

The reason the Lancer Assault Rifle has a chainsaw bayonet is because a regular bayonet proved insufficient to deal with the Locust. The bayonet on the Retro Lancer had a tendency to snap after deflecting off the rock hard skin of the Locust.