The "would you kindly?" twist reveal is one of the great, classic video game moments. It's very interesting because not only is it part of the plot, but it also allows the gamer to question "choice" and how much of it a gamer really has when they play. This would be examined further in games like (recommended) The Stanley Parable Btw, the voice actor for Atlas was not told in advance about the "would you kindly?" thing. The developers felt that if he knew, he might subconsciously put extra emphasis on the line whenever he delivered it
@d3ath_realm9 ай бұрын
source?
@imetacrab10 ай бұрын
Glad you got to experience the twist unspoiled lol, it still works all these years later. This was 2007 too! wild.
@cameronsmuck82089 ай бұрын
if you looked at Ryan's vita chamber in his office, it was turned off. pretty certain Ryan flat out wanted to die.
@Bram257 ай бұрын
He is a man of total control imprisoned in his water dungeon. He could not get out with a bathysphere without being blown up or killed by splicers. So even over his own death he had the total reigns.
@franky.3786 ай бұрын
What a neat detail, I was wondering about that too, whether or not Ryan was out there somewhere. Gonna check out his vita chamber now
@jaysundae10 ай бұрын
"Would you kindly?" The reveal is fantastic, most players know something is amiss, and a lot of players know not to fully trust Atlas, but the "Would you kindly" reveal followed by Fontaine's reveal is mind-boggling nonetheless. And the best thing about it is that you can connect all the dots through all the diaries in the game, it all starts to make sense, and that's the power of incredible environmental storytelling, it was all perfectly executed. This last stretch of the game when everything comes together is what truly elevates this game to "great" status. Ryan and Fontaine are obviously both terrible people, but Andrew Ryan is such a standout character. Atlas/Fontaine is great as well, but Andrew Ryan's philosophy and ideologies (albeit hypocritical) are incredibly fascinating and his dialogues are fantastic, so many great quotes, and the delivery is equally fantastic
@jaysundae10 ай бұрын
1:14:40 He wanted to emphasize the fact that Jack is a slave who was just doing as he was told. "A man chooses, a slave obeys." He chose to die, whereas Jack didn't choose to kill him, he was merely obeying his orders. He wanted to prove a point, but he also knew that Rapture was lost at that point, and seeing everything he built be completely ruined like that must've left him feeling defeated. And when he realised that his own child was his undoing by way of obeying his biggest enemy's orders, he accepted his fate. If it wasn't gonna be him, it was gonna be Fontaine later. Maybe a part of him also hoped that some part of Jack would push to break free of his shackles and *choose* to fight Fontaine
@jaysundae10 ай бұрын
1:15:34 Yeah he did know, but he only realised it towards the end, he didn't know who he was before that and was trying to figure that out. When he figured out who Jack was, he wanted to let him know the truth of who he was whilst also proving a point, he didn't want to control him at this point, esp after Rapture was already lost
@jaysundae10 ай бұрын
Jack being mute is just a typical video game thing rather than him actually being mute. A lot of first person games used to do this, partly to also allow the players to put themselves in their shoes. I personally like having a set protagonist with their own dialogues, but yeah, there's no particular narrative reason for him being mute. Such a fantastic episode, so much happened in this one, loved hearing your thoughts, and you guys were wary of a lot of things, and had some really interesting theories, some of which were pretty close too! As always, looking forward to hearing your thoughts for the rest of the playthrough
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin10518 ай бұрын
I think in this case, he being mute also works for the narrtive deconstruction of linear games they are doing here, with the 'Would you kindly?' stuff.
@villeda0095 ай бұрын
he speaks in the first scene
@lost4468yt2 ай бұрын
@@villeda009that's about it though? They don't speak through the game.
@Turkeyfoot19909 ай бұрын
Jack (the main character) is only 2 years old, if that helps with the time line. They only sped up the first 20 years of his life, so he ages normally now.
@robertmurdock18483 ай бұрын
Jack is 4 , not 2. He was 2 when they put him in the sub, which happens in 58, before Fontaine's "death". And Jack does not age normally, he extremely aged in the good ending scene , where the girls who are older than him appear to be in their 30s.
@Dalton_Boardman20003 күн бұрын
@@robertmurdock1848Well his daughters hands look decently aged on their own. He lasted long enough to see them graduate school and marry. I'd like to think the accelerated aging was just to get Jack to adult age and it more or less evened out by the time he came back to Rapture. I'd say he died at the chronological age of 50 something with the biological age of around 70.
@Bram257 ай бұрын
Funny enough it is kind of foreshadowed. In Neptune Bounty, first area under the dock lies an audio diary where a man complains he and others cannot travel by bathysphere as it is reserved only for Andrew Ryan and the elite of Rapture. But (he also mentions) that it is a key tied to DNA so it can also be run by an aunt, or his mom or anyone carrying his DNA. 😨🤯😱 (which would also mean Jack could use it all that time!)
@Dostoron14 күн бұрын
that audio log on the vita chambers, one of the oldest questions in bioshock got answered right under my nose and i only realize it now. all the enemies, the entire population of rapture... the vita chambers are everywhere, but none of them act like they're immortal... because they aren't.
@christinamae19029 ай бұрын
This is my favorite video game! In regards to if Ryan knew that Jasmine sold her baby to Tenebaum, I’ve always thought of that would you kindly room as Ryan just then figuring out everything about Jack and Fontaine and Atlas, and throwing the kill switch for rapture because of it. I’m so happy that the plot twist wasn’t spoiled for you guys! I’m on my way to watch the rest of the playthroughs.
@BrandonFlint-ro2nsАй бұрын
That was the precise moment he figured everything out that's why he decided to throw the kill switch right then and there and not much sooner. He knew Rapture was lost a long time ago but when the situation was completely out of his control he wasn't going to leave his dream in the hands of anyone, especially his worst enemy.
@jasminelast-name69859 ай бұрын
I think they meant 58 kg lol
@zeptier11729 ай бұрын
Ryan realized it would be his own child who was a brainwashed slave was going to kill him so he just kind of gave up and chose to die. After all, what parent would want to be killed by their own child who hasn't ever had a life of their own. At least, that's my reading of the scene. Are you guys planning to playthrough the bioshock trilogy? If you are make sure to play Minerva's Den DLC in Bioshock 2 and Burial At Sea 1 and 2 from Infinite.
@Bilephile9 ай бұрын
Nice i wish i had a partner to stream with like this, ,this seems like so much fun
@savannah9759 ай бұрын
I totally called it! Well the Fontaine/Atlas part, didn't guess the mind control or being Ryan's child... Would Tenenbaum still save you if you harvested the little sisters? Has anyone felt cruel enough to do that?
@BrandonFlint-ro2nsАй бұрын
I've tried doing this just to see what happens and I just can't bring myself to lol
@jennybrown78347 ай бұрын
Play the first sequel its not as good as this one but its better than the third one it very underrated
@billlupin83457 ай бұрын
The upside down question mark picture was clearly meant to cover your image, but the other tacks were removed and the question mark was spun out of the way to reveal your picture. It was meant to show how you're just now discovering who you truly are. Personally, I think adding that detail was a mistake, and they should've kept the question mark photo over your face. It takes some of the sting from Ryan's speech and the twist.
@paoloruberto12777 ай бұрын
E stato il mio primo giocho della ps4
@jharris32677 ай бұрын
I have to watch these because I purchased a Mac.Big mistake they have horrible games.😢