WoW War Within ULTIMATE Class Picking Guide | Class Rankings, Hero Talents & MORE!

[@TheComebackKids]

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[@_JB89]

The scoring animation at the end of each class was *chefs kiss*. Good work man, very in depth

[@TheComebackKids]

Thank you brother put allot of work into the Animations with this one!

[@kimchy4692]

I didnt catch that, what are hero talents again?

[@MazePerception]

If you don't know...

[@Rhaevyn-Hart]

LOL

[@NickPlays95]

Would love to see some War Within content around zones, features, etc for people who have been out of retail for several years or at least didn’t play the majority of dragon flight like myself. For example a video on Delves, follower dungeons, professions, etc. Anyways, love your content on WW and classic!

[@Elethyl]

I have been searching for a video that showcased the new visuals, explained the effects and this video does exactly that. You can't believe how much it took me to find it, so fuck youtube algorithm. Great job, man. Thank you very much, it REALLY does help to see everything together.

[@TheComebackKids]

Wow thank you so much. Makes it so easy to make content for awesome viewers like you.

[@dylanwarner6035]

This was great! If you repost this, can you cut out the intro to the hero talents that repeats before every single class lol ?

[@TheComebackKids]

The reason it is put on every class is because a HUGE number of viewers are only looking at one or maybe two classes and then hopping off the video, so we put it in every class just in case.

[@McKannon]

@@TheComebackKidsgood call. I originally was like “why the hell does he keep repeating that? I guess an editing error” but what you said makes complete sense.

[@crazymigdet247]

Great video covering everything! Thanks for your effort.

[@TheComebackKids]

Thank you for watching!

[@dantepeterson556]

I love all the thorough info and awesome matching footage. Great well made video!

[@TheComebackKids]

Thanks so much, yeah skyy killed it!

[@dpc111]

Excellent presentation in this video. Nicely done.

[@TheComebackKids]

Thank you so much!

[@EnryEsho]

​@@TheComebackKidsoy 41:21 7ooo9😅8

[@Gu3ssWhatsN3XT]

finally gave the game another try after my friend said i'd like it with the new expansion coming out and honestly, with the free weekend we just had, i gave it a try and loved it. He got me a copy of TWW for my bday that's coming up this month and now i feel obligated to keep playing lmao so now i'm more than excited to watch all these videos and since it's sky it's always gonna be good

[@TheComebackKids]

Let’s gooooooooooo

[@Saucerfulable]

Amazing video! Thank you

[@TheComebackKids]

Thank you for watching

[@kevinrollins5181]

Thank you so much, this video is so useful and i needed so bad.

[@TheComebackKids]

Thank you so much for watching

[@cpt_vi3w547]

Brew Master seems to be misunderstood by the community. Depending on who you watch, you get A tier and D tier. It’s not universally agreed upon on how well it’s performing.

[@SolheimGaming]

There it is! Been waiting for this one :D

[@TheComebackKids]

Thank you brother 🙏

[@decro3177]

Just watched the video.. what are hero talents again?

[@TheAtomicDom]

Incredible work. Must have taken ages! Subbed.

[@TheComebackKids]

Thank you, yeah this video in particular was a beast for sure was working on it for about 3 weeks! Idk if you are looking for a guild to play with. But if you are join our discord and you are welcome to join ours! discord.gg/GePKx2zY

[@Ahope124]

the presentation is insane

[@TheComebackKids]

Thank you very much man!

[@eschreck814]

What a great guide. Thanks for this.

[@TheComebackKids]

Thanks for watching!

[@mrpell83]

"Shadow priest is performing well despite not being that good a spec" Excuuuuse me? Spriest is amazing! "If you only DPS priest might not be for you" Spriest is all I need thank you very much 🤪

[@3r123]

Would love a video on which classes to play solo in Delves

[@TheComebackKids]

The secret sauce on that is to go a tank, any one of them really.

[@3r123]

@@TheComebackKids I want to play ranged dps haha but yeah that makes sense

[@Rhaevyn-Hart]

I'd also say maybe hunter or lock cuz... pets...?

[@mitchruby4716]

Mage is lacking defensively? Ice Block, Alter, Cheat Death, Double Ice Block if frost, shield, group shield, and can get cd's back up quicker. Mage is known as one of the most survivable specs in the game amongst higher M+ and raid.

[@Sqippy]

Oh you think this youtuber has a valid opinion? none of their toons are top 5% they hold no value

[@TheComebackKids]

Is that the only thing that would make someone’s opinion valid? Yikes that’s crazy.

[@Sqippy]

@@TheComebackKids yeah. Opinions of people don't matter unless there's value to their experiences.

[@TrevloidsEmporium]

@@Sqippy Completely disagree with you tbh

[@Sqippy]

@@TrevloidsEmporium doesn't matter

[@KamuiC1989]

A very good video. Thanks for that. But have you ever heard of the new Hero Talents?^^

[@TheComebackKids]

Lmaoo

[@SonOfTheImam]

Insane high-quality vids! Mad respect. The only downside is that because of the quality, the content is dated. At least for a couple of specs. You will find the right balance, i know you will. Cant wait for the next one!

[@TheComebackKids]

Thank you man!

[@vampiricalchemist]

Hey, you can easily clip each class section and put them into KZbin shorts and maybe tiktok as well. Would gain more visibility too. In addition to the full vid of course.

[@TheComebackKids]

This is actually a great idea and we are working on possibly putting together a shorts channel for that very reason!

[@PedestrianPony]

People sleeping on Master of Harmony. It's passive by design because it's +damage and +healing passives make it ideal for fistweaving and there's already enough going on there that we really didn't need a ton of additional buttons to press. It's going to be crazy strong for M+ and already is in the beta.

[@ryangardner7709]

As a monk main( one of very few) this is good to know

[@Vvegart97]

Great video. I'm gonna repeat priest like to be the healer and love the fantasy and visuals.

[@TheComebackKids]

Hell yeah!

[@BoltHardcheese]

Great video that I shared with my friend who just started WoW when Mists launched. My first character in the expansion will be my Mage (currently frost but may switch to Arcane), followed quickly by my Shadow Priest. I'll main whichever feels better in PvP.

[@TheComebackKids]

Oooh a pvp player I see

[@fabriciotorres2396]

insane video, great job, waiting for more and more, hahahaha .... lets go !

[@TheComebackKids]

Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed it!

[@Drago02129]

Jesus Christ the ratings section noise keeps jump scaring me lmao

[@TheComebackKids]

lol sorry about that

[@Rhaevyn-Hart]

LOL! Same. But after a couple classes I knew when it was coming and braced myself. I bet you're using headphones too.

[@DirkdigglerV2]

Thank you so much guys, made this so much easier for me to decide

[@TheComebackKids]

Love that thanks for watching.

[@Zippys01]

Wow you have grown since New World. That's awesome man

[@TheComebackKids]

Oh wow thank you so much man, you are an OG if you know us from New world!

[@Jakeynoone]

nice video, thanks!

[@TheComebackKids]

Thank you for watching

[@florianlemke8719]

Why is shaman higher ranked in the hero talents departement then mage while you said that mage had the best set of talents in the game? I kinda dont get ur ranking system of these

[@TheComebackKids]

All designs for both are amazing The only problem is that sunfury isn’t performing well at all right now While shaman all three are doing well in their own aspects I love the design and integration of the mage talents the best though

[@bluejay4069]

Excellent video!

[@TheComebackKids]

Thanks very much

[@vampiricalchemist]

Very well made video.

[@TheComebackKids]

Thank you very much!

[@lorgren4002]

Great video:)

[@TheComebackKids]

Thank you so much

[@gcstroud]

Take a shot every time he says “it’s always a safe bet if you ONLY like DPS”. **Blacks out halfway through**

[@nicholastelese5166]

LMAO

[@thomaseriksson8273]

Vantastic

[@xamonttofficial]

I used to love healing, only healed since wotlk but since they changed it to a mediocre dps who sometimes heals.

[@TheComebackKids]

They have made some changes to healing in the beta to make it so healers need to heal more.

[@SwattaVII]

Very good video dude! You get a sub from me.

[@TheComebackKids]

Thanks so much, happy you enjoyed it!

[@fluk3artist]

How old is the info that went into this video? Seems like it is before one or two of the most recent balance updates in the past fortnight?

[@TheComebackKids]

When it comes to balance, that could change everyday. We're mostly looking at design and gameplay as the video is released between all specs in the class.

[@guilleherreros3518]

@@TheComebackKids Then why are you rating performance

[@mysterykitty587]

​@@guilleherreros3518I think hes trying his best to rate more of what a classes specs are trying to do and what its feeling like to play for the new xpac. He brushes and touches on some of how the dmg performance was looking like for the current content which yes may have gotten outdated but I'm ok with it cuz I NEEDED this kinda video explaining the hero talent trees and how theyre feeling to play the classes in the current state gives me a view on the flavors/tastes of the classes and specs for the new xpac helps me make up my mind more of what sounds good for me to play. I'm not being rude or mean just explaining how I'm seeing this vid it may not help everyone but it helped me a bunch :)

[@connorofaolain117]

One thing in regards to warlock mate - Destruction is looking to be the best by quite the margin so far ^^'

[@TheComebackKids]

That’s due to a bug, once it gets fixed that likely won’t be the case.

[@BarteQQQQQ]

its VANTASTIC

[@tylerreed1109]

Loved the video not sure what to main, I have a paladin and Hunter but want another. Maybe shadow priest or frost DK

[@TheComebackKids]

Frost and shadow are both so much fun!

[@tylerreed1109]

@@TheComebackKids what would be your preference, I’ve played but took breaks, wanting to actually dive in and I’m torn. I want a main for mythic and PvP any suggestions like warlock, frost DK, shadow priest? Would love your opinion

[@TheComebackKids]

Warlock if you want to be a caster dk if you want to melee.

[@tylerreed1109]

@@TheComebackKidsthanks man great video

[@poolboyque]

Thinking about playing again. Have a pally that I have not touched since BFA, and before that, didn’t touch since WotLK lol.

[@TheComebackKids]

It’s a great time to play

[@AirBnBrush]

Which aura for raids are you talking about regarding monk?

[@TheComebackKids]

The weakauras?

[@AirBnBrush]

@@TheComebackKids umm what? 🤣

[@ericniesen9361]

so is more stars for difficulty does that mean it's more difficult or less difficult?

[@TheComebackKids]

More stars means more difficult

[@martinlindner6087]

For everyone unsure about the new feature, is the hero talent. It's gonna be a third talent tree. Thought it might be worth mentioning here as the video didn't state it.

[@mysterykitty587]

He literally says "3rd additional talent tree" in explaining the hero talent tree which he copies and pastes that explanation over and over again for each class he goes over which says the same thing/words "3rd additional talent tree" additional meaning extra tree thatd be separate from the other two. 👍

[@gcstroud]

@@mysterykitty587that’s the joke

[@DonMushuke]

Great video!!! i needed this to make my pick !!! btw mayby an odd question but is it possible to share ur ui!!!???? i kinda like it..

[@TheComebackKids]

Which part of the videos UI there are a couple of different ones

[@DonMushuke]

@@TheComebackKids Like the one at 47:29

[@leolucca416]

Enhancement Stormbringer Shaman, Sunfury Fire Mage, Sentinel Survival Hunter, ShadoPan Windwalker Monk, Feral Druid of the Claw, i cant decide, i love rogues but they need a rework for sure

[@TheComebackKids]

Agreed on rogue, I like sentinel survival ALLOT

[@mikeharding9396]

I’m maining Ret Paladin. But also going to kick up the dust on unholy DK and Feral Druid

[@TheComebackKids]

Unholy is so much fun to play!

[@SaulsieBerries]

How many times do I have to listen to the hero talent explanation?

[@TheComebackKids]

Yes

[@Vesilol]

Mained Rogue since BC but I'm always tempted to swap to DH. Rogues are in a rough spot right now, but DHs aren't much better lol. Having a hard time deciding. Or totally change my PoV and go Mage.

[@TheComebackKids]

DH feels pretty good imo

[@onyxrain2362]

Hey dude, think you should put "Sod news" and Season of Discovery news" in the key words for your videos cus I couldn't find this channel at all. I had to ask the channel name from my friends and luckily they remembered. So odd

[@TheComebackKids]

It’s better to not do that because SOD players don’t want to watch this content, and that will lower the click through rate and make the views plummet.

[@onyxrain2362]

@@TheComebackKids Dude You're right.. i just realized your focusing on war within. Sad that sod has SO much to offer but people seem to give up on it Ph3

[@TheComebackKids]

Yeah I mean phase 4 is ok, it’s weird I love SOD but currently not having a ton of fun with it.

[@2NextLvL]

how are you saying frost is performing less than arcane/fire?????

[@TheComebackKids]

You think frost will be the meta spec?

[@2NextLvL]

@@TheComebackKids it will all depend on tuning as the specs share most utility, so eventually it will most likely just be a numbers game. If all specs are roughly even, frost will usually be played because of its simplicity and easy to play things

[@TheComebackKids]

Wrong if all numbers are similar fire will be played because of cheat death.

[@2NextLvL]

@@TheComebackKids what i meant is that frost will perform best for the majority of mage players

[@Cheeky_Bandit]

The highest M+ 13-16 keys in the war within ptr all have Blood Dk and frost Dk comps. Blood is the best tank in the game by far and frost makes Unholy second rate in dps. Preservation Evoker is also in a tie for best healer in the game next to Sham. Again based off the farthest keys pushed in the ptr. (With the except of a single Disc priest who was pushing +16 lol.)

[@TheComebackKids]

Appreciate the tips!

[@Cheeky_Bandit]

@@mistermakebelieve Going by completed M+ 13-16 not a single group completed with a bear tank. They where all Blood Dk.

[@psychomaniak666]

i wish that was a code for 60% off a yearly wow sub xD

[@PilhasGaming]

VANTASTIC

[@TheComebackKids]

Yikeees

[@narthvader6298]

Smartest thing y'all did was 180 from SoD to TWW

[@TheComebackKids]

100%

[@ChrisLandry-u8b]

“If you don’t know” about hero talents on each class? Jesus Christ. Too many ads on this channel

[@TheComebackKids]

we put it on each class becasue tons of people skip to just one or two classes and thats it. Sorry bout that.

[@TrevloidsEmporium]

whats that have to do with ads?

[@doffyvi]

Its either gonna be survival hunter or ret paladin cant decide tho :/

[@TheComebackKids]

Both solid choices dude

[@jonoxis]

​@@TheComebackKidswhich do you think has more build variety?

[@TheComebackKids]

Depends how tuning ends up but probably Surv

[@Prfinity]

What do hero talents do?

[@TheComebackKids]

Funny you ask

[@Lars_lml]

Shaman Class Strengths - Can Tank, DPS or Heal do you know more than us 👀 xd

[@katatonickiwi8310]

I was hoping someone pointed out the "Tank" spec Shaman haha

[@florianlemke8719]

This isnt sod my guy

[@nonottim]

Fantastic video - although some timestamps would be appreciated 😅

[@TheComebackKids]

We added them in the description it just seems to not have updated for some reason, sorry about that.

[@nonottim]

@@TheComebackKids All good. Appreciate the time and effort put into this video! Really helps me narrow down my main for TWW

[@PULAG]

Can Enhance Shamans tank?

[@TheComebackKids]

No I misspoke there on accident recorded this at like 5:30 am and was exhausted

[@Ex3rtDarkness]

I get that SoD wasn't getting you the numbers anymore but man I feel abandoned. See you sometime maybe :(

[@TheComebackKids]

More so than SOD not getting numbers it just doesn’t feel very fun at the current moment, and it made me not want to make content on it, I mostly make content on whatever feels most fun to me at the time.

[@Briansgate]

Trying Evoker this go 'round, or worse case scenario, fall back to the ol' reliable mage. Now where's that guild invite?? lol

[@TheComebackKids]

Send me your Battle.net I can add you!

[@Briansgate]

@@TheComebackKids Marenghi#11404

[@FaetalEU]

*Vantastic* lol :P nice vid

[@TheComebackKids]

Thank you!

[@utherlichtbringer7681]

Brewmaster the bad tank? 😮Heard brew is so smooth

[@TheComebackKids]

Different strokes I suppose

[@2NextLvL]

DONT PICK BASED ON PERFORMANCE - TUNING WILL CHANGE PERFORMANCE MONTHLY

[@TheComebackKids]

If you watched the video you would know we didn’t make this list off tuning.

[@PHX214]

How does a monk have less utility than a DK? And DH has same utility as a rogue?! I do think that dh has chaos aoe stun, imprison, fear sigil, silence sigil, chaos brand; rogue has group invis, kidney shot, blind; DK has ams, grip maybe. If anything DH has one of the best group utilities in dungeons, if talking about raid Locks should be one of the highest with pallys - with curses, portals, cookies just bosses only. Rogue brings poison dr; mages bring mass invis, shields - unless im missing something

[@TheComebackKids]

You make great points actually

[@olubankai7]

I’m gonna main an Unholy Rider of the Apocalypse!

[@TheComebackKids]

You will have a blast

[@bradveach4832]

Shaman baby Ya.😅

[@TheComebackKids]

Let’s gooo

[@Lowielol]

shaman class strengths: can tank??? chainlightning-pull > wipe? just because SoD-shamans can tank you cant tell this in a war within guide... shamans cant tank.

[@TheComebackKids]

Was a mistype lolol, my bad

[@tmill110]

I know about hero talent trees.

[@TheComebackKids]

That’s awesome, glad to hear it.

[@That_kind_of_orc]

Unlike fury and protection arms feels a little bit meh it's missing what makes arms unique

[@Flo87rian]

SHAMENS can Tank?

[@TheComebackKids]

In sod yes

[@markusklettke4841]

Unholy death knights are getting heabily nerfed on 14.08.2024 und frost slightly nerfed compared to unholy. Because unholy scaled in endgame too good imho. But as of it right now dw frost and two hand frost is op on pre patch like 60k - 100k dps over unholy currently in the pre patch from what i saw in raids and dungeons.

[@Polyglotz]

Damn, Druid has been my class for decades. I have 7 Druids lol😅

[@TheComebackKids]

Love that

[@paranoidmd7]

​@@mistermakebelieveif you're going feral you better have a lot of friends and/or a good guild. No one ever invites ferals to pugs. I've been kicked from groups mid dungeon when people noticed I was feral and not boomkin.

[@MostlyFish21]

​@@paranoidmd7 lmao 😭😂❤️ that's grim 💀

[@LotsOLuck777]

Tier lists and rankings have become a joke. 2 days ago, I watched a video (that had come out one day earlier), saying Destruction Warlock was the number 1 DPS Class Spec in the entire game. Now, you’re here saying it is the weakest Lock Spec??? Which is it?!

[@TheComebackKids]

We are not talking about dps so much in this video, right now due to a bug destro is doing the most dps, however that will likely change.

[@vatopedinos8324]

I am so confused i am between feral fury and frost/unholy damnnnnnnnn

[@TheComebackKids]

If you like both frost and unholy dk should be the choice so you have 2 specs.

[@vatopedinos8324]

@@TheComebackKids thanks

[@axelvangelder3812]

amazing video, i'm going to play rogue

[@TheComebackKids]

Thank you very much!

[@TimeRift609]

You should be a car salesman!

[@TheComebackKids]

I’m assuming that’s not a compliment X

[@TimeRift609]

@@TheComebackKids It is; I’m saying you do a good job of convincing people!

[@88osi95]

why the hell he said the part "Hero Talents" 1000x times? it´s such a great video, destroyed - why?

[@TheComebackKids]

Mentioned it many times, but analytics show about 70-80% of people are only watching the info of about 1 class, so we had it to every class in case they skipped.

[@Choaca]

Hey Hero Talents... BY THE WAY! If you don't know....! :D

[@Rhaevyn-Hart]

Trent? Who's Trent? /snicker

[@TheComebackKids]

lol

[@xxphejyaz]

imagine saying affliction is the best and destruction is going bad lmAOOOO

[@TheComebackKids]

Not talking tuning mostly based off feel, but hey no worries.

[@Frequently1]

Augmentation considered the best spec in PvE. Ironically in Rated Arena PvP it is legitimately the very worst spec in the game

[@TheComebackKids]

Well that’s ok

[@Frequently1]

@@TheComebackKids Strongly disagree, you wouldn't feel that way if you PvPed and your favorite spec didnt perform at all.

[@BeRightBackQ8]

according to kalamazi the warlock performance is the other way around

[@TheComebackKids]

Yes if we were going off of just current dps tuning yes, but we aren’t

[@TheComebackKids]

Kalamazi is a king and for sure knows about Warlock dps.

[@Cirathos]

Warlock will not bee good at all.

[@TheComebackKids]

What do you mean lol

[@BeRightBackQ8]

@@TheComebackKids True, sadly people wont focus on what utility or performance the class would bring just the dps.

[@Kai_pies]

Is rogue really that bad ?

[@TheComebackKids]

Not at the moment

[@Daniel-hf5nq]

I want to play lock but aff single target is trash and they are prob nerfing destro to the ground

[@TheComebackKids]

But you still have Demo!

[@HurtzSoGood2]

I feel like you marked DK as too easy. Especially for someone new to the game, the concept of runes, runic power, and for unholy managing your diseases aren't really "easy" to just pick up. And that's not even mentioning Breath of Sindragosa.

[@TheComebackKids]

Unholy doesn’t necessarily fit into the easy thing as much as frost

[@HurtzSoGood2]

@@TheComebackKids well frost is complicated with Breath of sindragos but that's to min max. Overall, great video. Adding little tid bits about the lore was a nice touch for potential new players. Be cool to see you do a video on races as well. #dwarfmasterrace

[@shadowdragonx2]

This video made it so easy for me to pick a class and narrow down the things I wanted from a class. Saved me so much time trying to play and try everything myself.

[@TheComebackKids]

Hell yeah, that’s awesome. What did you end up picking?

[@shadowdragonx2]

​@@TheComebackKids I love EASY to play classes. I originally played DH but wasn't enjoying it as much as i thought i might. Warrior isn't typically my choice in games but how you described them fit all the things i wanted. I've surprisingly been having a great time playing one.

[@MightyNightyWoW]

Timestamps man. I cant believe that you are not using it nowadays

[@TheComebackKids]

00:00 - Intro 02:48 - The Paladin 08:45 - The Druid 15:20 - The Priest 20:50 - The Hunter 26:30 - The Rogue 31:50 - The Mage 36:45 - The Warlock 41:50 - The Warrior 46:10 - The Shaman 50:50 - Death Knight 56:04 - The Monk 1:00:45 - Demon Hunter 1:05:30 - The Evoker They are on the video, but they haven’t uploaded to the video yet for some reason.

[@cs4mo]

Was gonna be dk but looks like they just nerfed dk to the ground real hard. Just a normal day as a dk!

[@TheComebackKids]

Yikes

[@SlayerIII226]

This was one of the most difficult videos I've ever watched simply because you felt the need to tell us over and over and over what hero talent trees are.

[@TheComebackKids]

Well that is because most people skip and only watch the class they are interested in so had to put it on all of them just in case.

[@SlayerIII226]

@TheComebackKids that's fair but as a person who always watches the entire video it was really painful and if I wasn't so busy while I was listening to it I would have stopped it. Thank you for your videos btw!

[@sohsuh7625]

Clickbait. There's no rankings anywhere. These guys just repeat the same things in multiple videos for views.

[@SplitSeoul]

@@TheComebackKids I totally understand why you did. Great job on the video!

[@overlordjord1306]

@@SlayerIII22615 seconds of “pain”?? Bro come on. Tune it out or suck it up…. Respectfully, that opinion is ass

[@jennifurx6176]

Difficulty from 3/10 to 8/10? Destro lock is BM hunter lvl give me a break. Only rogues and mages (not frost or fire) are relatively hard. Ele shamans, dps warriors for example are all brain dead easy. Moonkin is hard? Lawl

[@TheComebackKids]

Thanks for your opinion, what other takes do you have?

[@jennifurx6176]

@@TheComebackKids putting DH difficulty 4/5 above Paladin 3/5 is WILD

[@Shlickback92]

“If you don’t know hero talents….”

[@TheComebackKids]

What?

[@MrTastee_plays]

Look i get it you think people will skip around on your video. But man saying that hero talent bit everytime was to much

[@kryt1cal]

Part 1: Paladin... skipping to part 2

[@herky1002]

Is this based on beta or current numbers? This is outdated already. Ele is at the bottom and destro is at the top

[@TheComebackKids]

Not totally based on tuning at all as none of us have any idea how the chips will fall come launch.