WP-DVO Onyx 38 Fork: Best Suspension Yet?

[@OtterMTBtech]

DVO sale ends tonight midnight up 2 40% off

[@snokefilmmedia]

Hm, looks like the promo code stopped working already. The website still advertises it though. Weird.

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

Pretty much everything DVO pre 2025 is heavily discounted still but stocks are getting low, lots of diamonds left iirc. I'm loving the onyx 36 SC D1 ott and 38 D1, I would probably have skipped these forks at full retail (1500$ Canadian rubles) but for the price of a Psylo I'm in love.

[@sierratangoandras]

Great video! 👏🏻 And yes, I've always thought/heard/saw the correct sag setup is by standing on the bike in "attack" position 😄 then jumpy jumpy to cycle the suspension at least 3 times, then set the o-ring and step off the bike veeery carefully.

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

The cone valve is interacting with the ports on the rebound piston sitting on a spring, (helicoidal spring) to replace the midvalve shim stack. The cone shape has the advantage of offering a clear path for the fluid to follow, since as the liquid becomes turbulent pressure differentials create cavitation, which is the number one enemy here, a well tuned cone valve would theoretically eliminate turbidity and cavitation.

[@OtterMTBtech]

Nice. Better than me 😎

[@makeitrandom3067]

I've ridden a 1st gen topaz and it rocks but needs service coz of the oil leaks. when i am watching you're videos it got me thinking to go back to DVO topaz and get the the 3rd gen one.

[@kzoomin]

DVOs site is having a 40% off sale right now that ends in 1.5 hours midnight PST, not just one item but full cart!

[@MaybeChristian]

I've ridden a buddy's new ktm dirt bike with the aftermarket wp cone valve suspension. It's genuinely incredible, if I had to explain it felt like the shim stack was dynamic if that even makes sense. The dampening would feel good in more conditions than it traditionally should have, speed bumbs and rutts weren't over dampened but big g outs off the jumps weren't under dampened. I came from yamaha's kyb SSS which has a custom tune for my weight, you could just tell the tech in the cone valve suspension was working magic even if it wasn't tuned like my traditional suspension. Big dragback though is they're known for having short service intervals before performance starts getting inconsistent. 15-20 hours, my buddy gets his done every month with a track day or race every weekend.

[@OtterMTBtech]

That is normal High performance high service interval

[@jankaskyevitchjellbet7293]

Cheers for the video, great as always!

[@OtterMTBtech]

My pleasure!

[@Trade2Invest-]

Best to buy one of those magnet plates at Harbor Freight. Run it back and forth close to the ground and Any metal it passes by it will pick it up.

[@OtterMTBtech]

I got the roofer nail picker up thing, the spring went flying got the ball back

[@robertmoore119]

Hmm, I just looked into this fork. I have heard the name, but I hadn't seen a review. They are available separately. I like that there is another offering besides the very well known Fox and Rock Shox. There are some others, but the price of these seem very reasonable. Side note, I don't really know if I would want to go much smaller than a 36mm for 160mm and above, but that probably depends on the design of the stantion mounts and crown for the slider. Though diameter would help. Weight is also a factor, so who knows, I haven't ridden forks with that much travel. I have only been on a personally owned 130mm. I have only test ridden bikes with more travel than that.

[@egoneco]

Nice vid- funny enough my LBS has a couple takeoffs that customers removed brand new from the bikes. Interesting to see the review of it!

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

Gas gas actually sells emtbs?!! What is this sorcery 😂

[@egoneco]

@ sure is odd seeing gas gas written on your ebike. The MXC model is a ripper right out of the box

[@OtterMTBtech]

Gas Gas will always be a trials bike in my head, 90’s kid.

[@Alex2OC]

Haha diese Scheiss Feder Kugeln 😂 Ja das kenn ich 😭😅

[@ryansteiger6960]

Thank you for the video 👍

[@OtterMTBtech]

Appreciate it!

[@picassoimpaler3243]

Its a bummer this is only available with the gasgas. Wonder if the WP cartridge fits in the other onyx forks

[@OtterMTBtech]

It would if you get can get it. Would be cool to blind test run Someone on it

[@dannymuffitt8650]

Good video, can you please try the dvo internals in your suntour fork to see if they fit. I can't find anything on the Internet anywhere and given it's 38mm stanchion and made in the same factory I'm wondering if it will fit or not

[@OtterMTBtech]

I have a video on it nothing wil swap I tried it had both forks on bench

[@nathantoney.1501]

I may be wrong but I put a push hc97 on my old lyric and I think it’s a cone valve

[@OtterMTBtech]

I remember those ad ons 🤔

[@Coolcmsc]

Hi! Just discovered your incredible efforts on our behalf. Best anywhere, ta! Now, a suggestion: what do you think of the True Tune Flow: it goes on the air-side (it’s not expensive + you’ll need to try it as it’s ‘physics’ are barely credible). I have an old 2021 Fox 38 Performance (Factory E-Bike tune for my SC Bullit at 170). I took out the standard 4 tokens and replaced 3 of those with the True Tune for the 38 (so True Tune Flow + 1 token). It’s meant to bring: “Better small bump compliance, increased mid-stroke support and end stroke absorption”. It’s transformed my Fork from a chunk/breaking bump hating arm-pump generator into a sweet carpet. At £85 in the U.K., it’s a great value for money. It’s of greatest value at fast big-hit bike parks, for example the Atherton’s Dyfi Bike Park in North Wales. It’s supposed to do something with absorbing air somehow using activated carbon: sounds like hocus pocus, but is well reviewed and definitely worked for me better than any of the meagre tuning option on my basic fork: no need to upgrade from three position “Grip” compliance to Grip X2 and at 1/4 the price! www.tftuned.com/flow-mtb-air-fork-upgrade/p4174

[@OtterMTBtech]

They were suppose to send me them, but didn’t. I don’t think it is of much help, unless your light weight, I could be wrong. I have to stuff tokens in Fox 38

[@tomalbert3299]

I haven't heard so far that you can influence rebound with the compression adjuster. How does that technically work?

[@OtterMTBtech]

Advanced Suspension Setup: The Backward Guide kzbin.info/www/bejne/nny3lJqPdrxgqbM

[@clemenshofbauer5740]

Do you have plans on testing a Formula Selva R?

[@OtterMTBtech]

I’m trying to get the formula coil shock, but I ran into a e-storia for cheaper

[@gg4760-k5n]

What you described has a shimstack is on the wrong side of the piston to create any compression damping. I will bite my tongue but clearly don't think any less ... As for the cone valve, in simple terms it is a refined poppet valve, nothing more. So instead of having shims (basically spring washers) deforming as oil flows to allow more or less oil to flow as it uncovers the piston piston ports, here you have a cone and a coil opening and closing those ports. The idea is that a cone shape offers better flow than a standard poppet. In the MX world if you ride a conevalve you change cone shape and coil stiffness to tune your fork instead of changing shims like in a conventional fork. Cone valves are famous for offering good support (basically loads of LsC) and then blow off when big impacts happen in order to keep composure and grip. In a normal fork this would only be possible with a preloaded stack to have a digressive HsC damping curve. It seems that the conevalve doesn't sacrifice comfort as much as a preloaded stack to achieve something similar.

[@picassoimpaler3243]

A cone can give you different flow depending on shaft speed vs a poppet which is largely open or closed. The port essentially enlarges as the cone moves. I was hoping WP would bring their tech to MTB eventually, sucks it's only available with a full bike only. But it would be even cooler if they provided different cone profiles and spring rates along with it. Or at least springs. I can just mill the cone myself if needed.

[@OtterMTBtech]

Thanks dog

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

You didn't put "DVO x WP"

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

🤣👍

[@OtterMTBtech]

XXX

[@mustclime5311]

so you found your ultimate fork and you broke it.......may i suggest you pick up a large powerful magnet and sweep the shop with it, you might find what you lost.

[@OtterMTBtech]

It was loaner 😢