WP-DVO Onyx 38 Fork: Best Suspension Yet?

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Otter MTB Tech

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@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

DVO sale ends tonight midnight up 2 40% off

@snokefilmmedia Ай бұрын

Hm, looks like the promo code stopped working already. The website still advertises it though. Weird.

@LaurentiusTriarius Ай бұрын

Pretty much everything DVO pre 2025 is heavily discounted still but stocks are getting low, lots of diamonds left iirc. I'm loving the onyx 36 SC D1 ott and 38 D1, I would probably have skipped these forks at full retail (1500$ Canadian rubles) but for the price of a Psylo I'm in love.

@jeremygifford38 Ай бұрын

You're doing the lords work man! Your down to earth content is so spot on, keep killing it dude!

@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

Thanks for feedback I wonder if I should keep going sometimes.

@jeremygifford38 Ай бұрын

@@OtterMTBtech No joke man, everything you put out seems very authentic and right on the mf titties lol! It's refreshing to see something that's not over scripted and otherwise feels like marketing too. I can only imagine what it takes to put together and produce what you do, it has to be a huge commitment with time alone not to mention the gear you acquire. Ill stop mid video on anyone else just to watch yours when I get a notification. Its like a virtual hangout with a cool buddy that's really knowledgeable. Keep up the badassery!

@LaurentiusTriarius Ай бұрын

The cone valve is interacting with the ports on the rebound piston sitting on a spring, (helicoidal spring) to replace the midvalve shim stack. The cone shape has the advantage of offering a clear path for the fluid to follow, since as the liquid becomes turbulent pressure differentials create cavitation, which is the number one enemy here, a well tuned cone valve would theoretically eliminate turbidity and cavitation.

@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

Nice. Better than me 😎

@sierratangoandras Ай бұрын

Great video! 👏🏻 And yes, I've always thought/heard/saw the correct sag setup is by standing on the bike in "attack" position 😄 then jumpy jumpy to cycle the suspension at least 3 times, then set the o-ring and step off the bike veeery carefully.

@NaZ-rs1dd 26 күн бұрын

Mate, I never would've thought of buying a DVO if it wasn't for you. Now they're definitely on my radar, but it's a shame they don't have a good presence in Victoria, Australia.

@MaybeChristian Ай бұрын

I've ridden a buddy's new ktm dirt bike with the aftermarket wp cone valve suspension. It's genuinely incredible, if I had to explain it felt like the shim stack was dynamic if that even makes sense. The dampening would feel good in more conditions than it traditionally should have, speed bumbs and rutts weren't over dampened but big g outs off the jumps weren't under dampened. I came from yamaha's kyb SSS which has a custom tune for my weight, you could just tell the tech in the cone valve suspension was working magic even if it wasn't tuned like my traditional suspension. Big dragback though is they're known for having short service intervals before performance starts getting inconsistent. 15-20 hours, my buddy gets his done every month with a track day or race every weekend.

@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

That is normal High performance high service interval

@jankaskyevitchjellbet7293 Ай бұрын

Cheers for the video, great as always!

@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

My pleasure!

@makeitrandom3067 Ай бұрын

I've ridden a 1st gen topaz and it rocks but needs service coz of the oil leaks. when i am watching you're videos it got me thinking to go back to DVO topaz and get the the 3rd gen one.

@kzoomin Ай бұрын

DVOs site is having a 40% off sale right now that ends in 1.5 hours midnight PST, not just one item but full cart!

@dillonopsahl6517 Ай бұрын

Hey! I really enjoy your videos.

@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate it!

@robertmoore119 Ай бұрын

Hmm, I just looked into this fork. I have heard the name, but I hadn't seen a review. They are available separately. I like that there is another offering besides the very well known Fox and Rock Shox. There are some others, but the price of these seem very reasonable. Side note, I don't really know if I would want to go much smaller than a 36mm for 160mm and above, but that probably depends on the design of the stantion mounts and crown for the slider. Though diameter would help. Weight is also a factor, so who knows, I haven't ridden forks with that much travel. I have only been on a personally owned 130mm. I have only test ridden bikes with more travel than that.

@5dayMovingAverage Ай бұрын

Best to buy one of those magnet plates at Harbor Freight. Run it back and forth close to the ground and Any metal it passes by it will pick it up.

@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

I got the roofer nail picker up thing, the spring went flying got the ball back

@egoneco Ай бұрын

Nice vid- funny enough my LBS has a couple takeoffs that customers removed brand new from the bikes. Interesting to see the review of it!

@LaurentiusTriarius Ай бұрын

Gas gas actually sells emtbs?!! What is this sorcery 😂

@egoneco Ай бұрын

@ sure is odd seeing gas gas written on your ebike. The MXC model is a ripper right out of the box

@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

Gas Gas will always be a trials bike in my head, 90’s kid.

@ryansteiger6960 Ай бұрын

Thank you for the video 👍

@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

Appreciate it!

@Coolcmsc Ай бұрын

Hi! Just discovered your incredible efforts on our behalf. Best anywhere, ta! Now, a suggestion: what do you think of the True Tune Flow: it goes on the air-side (it’s not expensive + you’ll need to try it as it’s ‘physics’ are barely credible). I have an old 2021 Fox 38 Performance (Factory E-Bike tune for my SC Bullit at 170). I took out the standard 4 tokens and replaced 3 of those with the True Tune for the 38 (so True Tune Flow + 1 token). It’s meant to bring: “Better small bump compliance, increased mid-stroke support and end stroke absorption”. It’s transformed my Fork from a chunk/breaking bump hating arm-pump generator into a sweet carpet. At £85 in the U.K., it’s a great value for money. It’s of greatest value at fast big-hit bike parks, for example the Atherton’s Dyfi Bike Park in North Wales. It’s supposed to do something with absorbing air somehow using activated carbon: sounds like hocus pocus, but is well reviewed and definitely worked for me better than any of the meagre tuning option on my basic fork: no need to upgrade from three position “Grip” compliance to Grip X2 and at 1/4 the price! www.tftuned.com/flow-mtb-air-fork-upgrade/p4174

@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

They were suppose to send me them, but didn’t. I don’t think it is of much help, unless your light weight, I could be wrong. I have to stuff tokens in Fox 38

@picassoimpaler3243 Ай бұрын

Its a bummer this is only available with the gasgas. Wonder if the WP cartridge fits in the other onyx forks

@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

It would if you get can get it. Would be cool to blind test run Someone on it

@301jax Ай бұрын

Thanks alot for the vid Champ 🙏.. i have this fork on my Gasgas ecc6 , .. only thing i hate is the ratteling/cliking noise when you ride really rough trails , rocks and roots .. have you noticed this?? I was thinking it could be the CV .. - other than that the fork is amazing .. eats every thing out there 🙏😍..

@301jax Ай бұрын

And then i watched your vid on the 36 with OTT .. explanes alot with the spring .. 🙏💪🏼❤️ Thanks for all your great work 🙌

@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

Is yours OTT version. This one is just air?

@301jax Ай бұрын

@@OtterMTBtech , yes mine is the OTT 🙏.. i guess it would be the spring thats making the noise then?? 😅.. and thanks for all the great vids you post champ.. really helpful 🥳

@taylordarion3477 23 күн бұрын

Can you make a service tutorial for the dvo diamond d1 35mm fork? I found there was nothing up to date

@OtterMTBtech 19 күн бұрын

I have dvo 38 repair video same fork just yours is smaller tubes

@taylordarion3477 18 күн бұрын

@ not really the same insides sadly

@tomalbert3299 Ай бұрын

I haven't heard so far that you can influence rebound with the compression adjuster. How does that technically work?

@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

Advanced Suspension Setup: The Backward Guide kzbin.info/www/bejne/nny3lJqPdrxgqbM

@thispod Ай бұрын

In few words, you starve the system out of oil, it works both ways

@clemenshofbauer5740 Ай бұрын

Do you have plans on testing a Formula Selva R?

@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

I’m trying to get the formula coil shock, but I ran into a e-storia for cheaper

@clemenshofbauer5740 Ай бұрын

@@OtterMTBtech the mod would also be interesting, great sensitivity, mid and end support and very noticable comp and reb range but i only have an old super deluxe air as a reference. some extra information, that can be usefull The CTS valves are also very easy to reshim for even more tuning possibilities and if you happen to get one with air in the oil, the way you bleed them is like you would sram brakes with 7,5wt oil.

@dannymuffitt Ай бұрын

Good video, can you please try the dvo internals in your suntour fork to see if they fit. I can't find anything on the Internet anywhere and given it's 38mm stanchion and made in the same factory I'm wondering if it will fit or not

@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

I have a video on it nothing wil swap I tried it had both forks on bench

@dannymuffitt Ай бұрын

@@OtterMTBtech thank you for the reply. That's a shame as No1 seems to make aftermarket parts for the suntour rux

@nathantoney.1501 Ай бұрын

I may be wrong but I put a push hc97 on my old lyric and I think it’s a cone valve

@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

I remember those ad ons 🤔

@thispod Ай бұрын

When i saw the 81psi i went WTH, I weight 75kg and run 95 and 3 tokens on my fox 38 and sometimes still bottom it out at 3 clicks hsc from all open😂

@gg4760-k5n Ай бұрын

What you described has a shimstack is on the wrong side of the piston to create any compression damping. I will bite my tongue but clearly don't think any less ... As for the cone valve, in simple terms it is a refined poppet valve, nothing more. So instead of having shims (basically spring washers) deforming as oil flows to allow more or less oil to flow as it uncovers the piston piston ports, here you have a cone and a coil opening and closing those ports. The idea is that a cone shape offers better flow than a standard poppet. In the MX world if you ride a conevalve you change cone shape and coil stiffness to tune your fork instead of changing shims like in a conventional fork. Cone valves are famous for offering good support (basically loads of LsC) and then blow off when big impacts happen in order to keep composure and grip. In a normal fork this would only be possible with a preloaded stack to have a digressive HsC damping curve. It seems that the conevalve doesn't sacrifice comfort as much as a preloaded stack to achieve something similar.

@picassoimpaler3243 Ай бұрын

A cone can give you different flow depending on shaft speed vs a poppet which is largely open or closed. The port essentially enlarges as the cone moves. I was hoping WP would bring their tech to MTB eventually, sucks it's only available with a full bike only. But it would be even cooler if they provided different cone profiles and spring rates along with it. Or at least springs. I can just mill the cone myself if needed.

@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

Thanks dog

@YanDoroshenko 26 күн бұрын

"Allowing oil to not flow as much" would be "restricting the oil flow" in English, I think...

@Alex2OC Ай бұрын

Haha diese Scheiss Feder Kugeln 😂 Ja das kenn ich 😭😅

@LaurentiusTriarius Ай бұрын

You didn't put "DVO x WP"

@LaurentiusTriarius Ай бұрын

🤣👍

@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

XXX

@mustclime5311 Ай бұрын

so you found your ultimate fork and you broke it.......may i suggest you pick up a large powerful magnet and sweep the shop with it, you might find what you lost.

@OtterMTBtech Ай бұрын

It was loaner 😢