WPTuts Live - WordPress and the Future

[@derek-hanson]

I agree! Covering non-WordPress tools from our perspective as WP users is extremely valuable. Also, I’ve always enjoyed your videos showing other tools that enhance your work, like Shots.so and such.

[@pwamowin]

Thank you... you have been my main and foremost teacher for years, thank you so much Paul, you will find me there :)

[@WPTuts]

Wow, thanks!

[@ocratest]

Spot on, I would love to see a objective performance/speed test of Jetengine Vs ACF. I think, allot of people group Jetengine with the bundled Croco suite that is often used in Elementor. I'd be most interested in the plain test. But possible a pairing with ACF/WpGridbuilder Vs Jet/Smartfilters would also be interesting.

[@dougpopejoy9605]

Love the idea of a Jet Engine and ACF Pro side by side. thx

[@bridiemacdonald9436]

Thanks for your information - I love the content that is geared towards the intermediate web dev. - demystifying through marketing smoke and mirrors. I very much appreciate your level approach.

[@WPTuts]

Great to hear! 😁

[@terencemolloy9450]

I like Concrete CMS, open-source, page builder, form builder, multisite, blog, etc. It also has Express which is a No-Code/Low-Code way to create relational data models, the main issues I do have, is that there's not as many plugins, row and column are little strange. At the moment I'm using WP + BB

[@bootsycoll]

I’m amazed that’s still active, originally it was called concrete5 and it had some really unique features that none of the other cms,s like joomla, Drupal and even Wordpress didn’t have but for some reason it just never really took off, glad to see it’s still being developed, I must revisit it

[@dazman88]

I wachted the Etch live, the vision for it is quite a big departure from what we currently do in WordPress. Firstly, it will be a page builder, the way they want to differentiate is that whatever you build in this page builder will be written directly to core blocks. He talked at length that etch can be uninstalled without breaking site functionality. The vision itself is that everything is unified and written to core, that the UX/UI allows you to do everything from one screen - this will in effect make many critical plugins (ACF, page builders etc) obsolete IF it works.

[@agoogleuser2081]

If Kevin Geary is the future of wordpress. Then wordpress is dead already. Anyone aligned with Geary will be avoided like the plague.

[@dazman88]

@@agoogleuser2081 right.. don't really care about the guy, I'm more interested in what the plugin will do. Not all of us are in a wordpress click like it's highschool or care about some petty politics.

[@agoogleuser2081]

@@dazman88 This is just a prime example of Blind Loyalty, Leader Worship, an Us vs. Them Mentality, Moral Disengagement, Fear of Rejection, and Manipulation Tactics. These same sort of people are also defending Gutenberg. Both are bad, and anyone with morals or integrity will avoid them. Thank you for identifying yourself.

[@dazman88]

@@agoogleuser2081 tf are you talking about? 🤣 Btw that's a lot of projecting for someone who claims they dont like toxicity. If you don't like the guy go write him a long letter instead of picking fights with strangers on the internet. 🥱

[@agoogleuser2081]

@@dazman88 In a civilized society, we don't do business with those who stir up trouble just for attention. If Kevin conducted himself with civility and didn’t act like a high school bully, attacking everyone in the comments of his own videos, you wouldn’t need to spend your valuable time defending him.

[@starmap]

🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:00:05 *🎙️ Introduction and Technical Difficulties* - Host discusses technical issues with Riverside FM, switching to live stream, - Engages with viewers, checks audio and video quality, - Mentions a 20-minute live stream format due to previous challenges. 00:02:07 *💬 Community Engagement and Questions* - Encourages viewers to ask questions using #q for easier sorting, - Talks about the disjointed nature of the platforms he's using and mentions unifying content. 00:05:07 *🏫 WPS Academy Launch* - Announces the launch of WPS Academy for free courses, community discussions, - Explains the benefits of a dedicated platform over Facebook, offers free resources and content. 00:08:50 *🧱 WordPress Plugins and Comparisons* - Discussion on popular plugins like ACF Pro, Crocoblock, and JetEngine, - Mentions future content plans, including speed tests and comparisons between plugins. 00:10:39 *🛠️ ET Platform and Future of WordPress Tools* - Shares opinions on the ET platform, explaining it's too early to assess, - Discusses the difference between concept and practical tools, and the team's track record. 00:14:18 *🖥️ Exploring Alternatives to WordPress* - Introduces plans to explore platforms like Framer, Squarespace, Webflow, and Wix Studio, - Aims to provide WordPress users with insights into alternatives, focusing on dynamic content creation. 00:17:18 *🔧 Potential Impact of ET on Bricks Builder* - Predicts a possible impact on Bricks due to ET's release, but not significant, - Explains differences between the platforms and how builders like Bricks have a solid track record. 00:19:59 *🎓 Online Learning and Course Recommendations* - Recommends Dave Foy’s course for beginners switching from Elementor to Bricks, - Stresses the importance of structured learning through paid courses over piecing together free resources. 00:19:38 *📚 The Value of Structured Courses* - Structured courses provide a clear, progressive route to learning, - Contrast between piecemeal learning online versus cohesive, well-designed courses, - Parity pricing and money-back guarantees as options for affordability. 00:20:49 *📊 The Future of WordPress and Market Shifts* - WordPress is seeing a slight decline in usage, - Concerns about Automatic (the company behind WordPress) not listening to users, especially around full-site editing, - WordPress is still viewed as a CMS rather than a simple blogging platform, with page builders like Elementor playing a key role in its growth. 00:25:22 *🔮 WordPress in the Next 5 Years* - Predicts a dip in WordPress usage unless it adapts better to user needs, - Elementor may also lose prominence over time, following a trend similar to Visual Composer, - Ecosystem of themes, plugins, and builders has filled in major gaps in WordPress core features. 00:29:03 *🛠️ Bricks Builder and Industry Shifts* - Bricks is growing steadily and remains a powerful alternative to other builders like Oxygen, - Focus on clean code and class-first systems is seen as beneficial for advanced users, - Bricks' future looks promising, but like other tools, it faces competition from new innovations. 00:32:16 *🎓 Education and Course Delivery in a Changing World* - AI will influence education but won't replace human-led courses entirely, - People still prefer learning from trusted creators with whom they have a rapport, - AI may improve information retrieval, but human teaching is still preferred for structured, digestible content. 00:40:01 *🎤 Reflections on WordPress Leadership and Engagement* - Discusses frustrations after participating in a WordPress leadership conversation, - Felt that leadership wasn’t genuinely listening to users or addressing their actual concerns, - Perception that leadership answers were disconnected from real user needs. 00:41:11 *🤝 Tribalism in WordPress Community* - Talks about hostility in WordPress meetups toward non-Gutenberg users (like Bricks), - Highlights the disconnect between WordPress leadership and the real-world needs of its professional user base, - Emphasizes that many users now consider WordPress a CMS, not just a blogging platform, yet leadership seems stuck in older ideas. 00:45:26 *💻 WordPress as a CMS and the Future of Core Features* - Argues that WordPress is failing to fully embrace its role as a CMS, - Advocates for integrating features like custom post types directly into core WordPress, - Critiques WordPress for sticking too rigidly to a direction many users don’t want, particularly with full-site editing. 00:49:11 *🛠️ Elementor’s Future and Platform Evolution* - Speculates on the potential for Elementor to break away from WordPress and create its own CMS, - Compares Elementor’s approach to Brizy Cloud, which has both a WordPress plugin and a standalone platform, - Discusses the limitations of Elementor’s current reliance on WordPress. 00:53:31 *🔍 Exploring Alternatives to WordPress and CMSs* - Mentions interest in exploring other open-source CMS platforms that offer custom fields and page builders, - Expresses frustration with legacy CMS options like Joomla and Drupal, - Invites viewers to suggest modern CMS alternatives for exploration. 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[@drknss0082]

Is it still worth it to start a WP business and is it scalable for the future?

[@DavidBell-qq1sd]

Assuming that you can figure out which "fragment" or "flavor" of WordPress to build on, then... probably.

[@drknss0082]

@@DavidBell-qq1sd I am new to this, so do you have any suggestions and can you name a few?

[@DavidBell-qq1sd]

@@drknss0082 I use Beaver Builder and Astra Theme. Pro version of each. I find it to be the easiest combination that gets the job done. Other than that, I suggest trying out whatever looks interesting to you. Kadence theme and plugins are also very good, in my opinion.

[@mikaelastner]

If you're doing a ACF Pro vs JetEngine, why not also include Meta Box, Pods, CubeWP, ToolSet, and ACPT (or however many of these plugins you can cover?) for a more comprehensive comparison?

[@WPTuts]

Tbh, it’s less about a full comparison between all the CPT tools and more about the comments I see about JetEngine slowing down sites. 👍

[@WPTuts]

For those interested in the WordPress & KZbin Creator stream I mentioned, here's the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGemonWJjM6BnK8

[@thereal_JMT_]

I think it's hilarious that etch is going to be somewhat of a plugin that is built upon Guttenberg

[@tudorcelstan]

It's not though, if the promise is respected you can always turn off Gutenberg rendering and render directly through Etch. What it will do is integrate with Gutenberg, and solely for content management (not for design) at that.

[@MarciaRobinsonz]

Its actually not remotely close to being a plugin nor a theme. More of a complete UI overhaul with direct core functionality into Wordpress as opposed to a proprietary builder approach, and with features that make the need for other popular plugins redundant. E.g. Less context swapping during site development to make efficiency much much better.

[@jamorahcito]

@@MarciaRobinsonz I hope they can pull it off. Amazing team, and Kevin is a motivated monster. Just hope he is not biting more than he can chew.

[@martinpinder]

Someone laughed that I use elementor for a pagebuilder and thought I was no real developer cause i didn’t directly code the sites. My reply - I produce printed magazines as well but don’t decide to code and build them all in postscript code. Use the tools that work to get the job done. A degree of snobbery around using tools to make the job easier in web dev - remember the Luddites….

[@DavidBell-qq1sd]

How come no one ever mentions Duda as a WP alternative? Are they scared because it is too good and it solves all the big issues with WP in one fell stroke???

[@EvanPrenger]

Duda sucks.. we use it for super simple 2-3 page sites at my job but the customization sucks, no access to the files or database, cannot use dynamic data unless using Google Sheets or Airtable. All websites looks the same and the code output is awful. they use no semantic tags outside of heading and paragraph tags. The headers and footers don't even use header or footer tags

[@EvanPrenger]

forgot to add it's also vendor lock in like Webflow. So you can't move your site to a different server if you wanted to like you can with wordpress

[@DavidBell-qq1sd]

@@EvanPrenger If it does what I need it to do, I could care less. I like the editor. My client loves it. No endless array of plugins to manage and pay for. No figuring out what host to use. This whole Data Liberation is a WordPress thing. Let other companies do it their way, let WP do it Open Source. End of story. What Wix or Squarespace do with their data is simply NONE of WordPress' business.