Wrecking Tanks with a 50mm Cannon Nose - Me 410 Hornet

[@kantemirovskaya1lightninga30]

My late grandfather flew the ME 109 for Hungary while assigned to a forgotten unit then later the 101 Puma's. Sadly it was rough times and he had a new model (I think G10...?) which the Germans took from his unit since they were short. They all became foot soldiers and 2 days later he was captured. He later escaped to live a happy life but thanks for this one. I remember the look on his face when I showed him a pic of his old squadron commander I found on the Internet as tears welled up in his eyes. My wife, his granddaughter escaped back in the early 70s with family but we made it back there before and after the wall fell for visits. He was a hard core old man and I enjoyed our talks over barack pálinka. This episode inspired me to look in my family tree software. I spoke with him about all his times back in 2005 and documented it all... it just made a fine re read so thank you!

[@dave8599]

how many innocent civilians, and allied freedom fighters did old grandpa murder while he fought for hitler?

[@JanitorScruffy]

@@dave8599 Not enough.

[@jeerasaksirimongcol2288]

@@dave8599 how many have your grandpa killed during bombing mission over germany ?

[@KentuckyFriedChildren]

@@dave8599 Do you really think he had a choice? You’re pretty tough considering you haven’t gone through half of that shit.

[@kantemirovskaya1lightninga30]

Your grasp of history is that of a four year old. Things get complicated in war especially when your country is occupied. If someone who has fought on multiple continents I’m just guessing you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about

[@madjoe8622]

I am always amazed that once in a while, I still find a video with vehicles in ww2 that I never knew about.

[@joachimdeussen]

Space-time changed! He is speaking slower. I thought I would never experience this. Way to go, man. Keep it that way.

[@paulreilly3904]

I find it rather slow and prefer to listen at 1.25% still, each to their own.

[@docholliday7157]

That's nothing. If you never saw the first few years of (the original channel was called Dark 5), they had no narrator at all. You had to read everything from subtitles, which is not a problem if you have NOTHING else to do at the time. (I like to listen to videos when I'm doing chores, sort of like a mini podcast) This guy has a very good, neutral voice, but I know what you mean, it sounded sped up or digitally altered.

[@keastymatthew2407]

You've just got a slow mind. Grow up

[@mqcapps]

Yeah...keep slowing down

[@dodoubleg2356]

"2,200 tons??" Not sure 'bout that one, lol. 🤔

[@merlinbrother1177]

2200 pounds

[@johnp8131]

I heard that too? Impressive? Even if the man talks bollocks!

[@topiasr628]

You win this comment section's "Most Pedantic" award 🏆

[@halogeek6]

Yeah that one caught me off guard. One of those bombers could single handedly level London. If that was the case.

[@gothicpagan.666]

Lost in translation old chap.

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

When I was a kid I had a model of the 410 with the BK 50 cannon. Pretty much my favorite model!

[@Litauen-yg9ut]

Still have mine, over 35 years later actually right behind me on the shelf as I type..

[@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu]

Make an electric one out of foam and paper and fly it virtually.

[@kelvinfoote9897]

I built the same one. I think I just chose it due to the big gun.

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

@@kelvinfoote9897 Some times bigger IS better! I hung it up next to the Hs 129

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

@@Litauen-yg9ut Mine was 53 years ago...long gone *sob*

[@robertmcmanus636]

the ME-210's bomb load was limited to 2200 TONS??? These guys put out videos on interesting topics, but it seems like they're mailing it in when it comes to accuracy.

[@fishjohn014]

Oh they dont care at all; they just crank these videos out for $$

[@Ag3nt0fCha0s]

@@itchytriggerfinger7622 nah, that is because he is stealing computer voice over and speeds it up so he doesnt get copywrite sued.

[@fishjohn014]

@@Ag3nt0fCha0s nah....its his real voice

[@jonathonbarnes3582]

That's right...it was actually 22,000 tons...an easy mistake to make....

[@kellypainter7625]

Let's mix units too. km/h and tons. Pick one.

[@All_Hail_Chael]

One of the best looking planes of WW2 I've seen one at Cosford Air Museum, looks just as good up close.

[@Litauen-yg9ut]

Actually I have a model kit of one with the 50mm I built over 35 years ago still on the shelf in my man cave. Can't remember if it was an Airfix or a Testors kit.

[@CR-xl7zu]

It always reminds me of a little fish with wings. It was a heck of a design, though.

[@bvflyer141cs2]

When I was on a layover in London, I took an extra day just to drive up to Cosford and see the 410 as well as the KI-46, two of my favorite aircraft.

[@All_Hail_Chael]

@@bvflyer141cs2 The KI 46 is a beauty too. Great idea to pop up there and have a look.

I find it very ugly, but it does look badass. I would have shot one down from a Belgian Hurricane.

[@adriangoede7433]

The 410 was a beautiful design (imo). Whenever I saw one sweep past, I couldn’t help but think what an awesome plane it would have been with a couple turbojet engines in place of the props. In my mind I kind of thought of it a big brother of the ME262. It probably wouldn’t have been able to handle the power as it was never designed to have jet engines under its wings. 🤣 But one can still dream.

[@slartibartfast2649]

Where/ when did you see that? As far as I was aware, the last time one of these was flown was just after the war when it was being evaluated by the Allies.

[@adriangoede7433]

@@slartibartfast2649 Ha! You misunderstood my meaning. I was referring to seeing them in historical footage. Just my observations of what a beautiful plane it was. Now, I’ve been fortunate enough to have seen some excellent war birds in person but, in this case, it certainly wasn’t in the flesh! I was born in 1972. Even with all the stories of the “war era,” my Dad told me as a kid, he was only born in 1932. Truly, the only Luftwaffe plane I’ve ever seen in the flesh, was the Junkers JU87 Stuka, that once hung from the ceiling as you walked into The Museum of Science & Industry in Chicago. I’d heard it had been taken down but, that was so many years ago… who knows. And maybe one day I’ll be fortunate enough to get to the Smithsonian or better yet, some of the museums in Europe. But, I’ve resigned myself to the fact that the latter will likely never happen. It’s just not a reality for people like me. That and I’m too cheap! 🤣

[@slartibartfast2649]

@@adriangoede7433 Most British museums are free if that helps! The Science Museum in London has a good collection, but the best by far is IWM DUxford.

[@elastofragmentoplast9350]

Bomb load capacity of 2200 tonnes? Impressive!

[@robinsonsstudios]

One thing that still baffles me is why the 410 never was used as a night fighter. Seeing as its predecessor became the luftwaffes most effective NF of the war,I do wonder why the 410 wasnt adapted for this role.

[@peterszar]

Whoa.. I'll bet the ME 410 couldn't handle the 2200 ton bombload (04:34 min.) that ME 210 could. And people watch this crap? C'mon Boeing, build a bigger B-52, to match this 1940's design.

[@thomaszhang3101]

I am pretty sure the Me410 b2/r3 was fitted with radar, two 20mm mg151 and two 30mm mk103. It is a night fighter.

[@robinsonsstudios]

@@thomaszhang3101 you mean the b6r3 but that radar you see is a Hohentwiel radar for anti shipping use

[@thomaszhang3101]

@@robinsonsstudios holy shit, you are right. Why does it have 30 mm then? I am expecting it have an internal Bombay for 250kg bombs, u know, for ships.

[@robinsonsstudios]

@@thomaszhang3101 my best guess would be for attacking patrol craft or the like, the 30mm Mk 103 has amazing HE and AP rounds, which would be well suited for the job. However, that's just my best guess, I couldn't find many information about the b6 r3s operational history

[@ezekiellucas7241]

Love your videos! All of them like dark skies, dark docs and dark 5! I could go on! Glad you're starting the get the views you deserve!

[@sparky4878]

Before I get into to this I imagine plenty of comments comparing to the Mosquito and the versions with the 57mm cannon. Edit: 4:34 its bomb-load was limited to 2,200 tonnes?! Either a mis-speak or the heaviest bomber of WWII and I never knew that.

[@WalaVeioMala]

2,200 pounds, 2 bombs of 500kg

[@sparky4878]

@@WalaVeioMala yes. As much as I like Dark Skies too many silly mistakes slip through the edit.

[@steeltiger5000]

@@WalaVeioMala he did say 2200 tonnes

[@typxxilps]

@@sparky4878 Call it attention test cause the community will find all these tiny details and he will pin the comment to the top. Simply try to deliver 1 of such videos in such time frame and then the attitude and expectations will be different than now.

[@robertmcmanus636]

@@sparky4878 I don't like them at all. I keep getting sucked into their videos due to promising content that is then VERY disappointing due to the seeming utter lack of fact checking and any editing of the script.

[@johnsanabria3279]

Have to disagree about the BK 50 cannon......first, the 410 would have to get in close just to fire it. One shot would throw off the pilot's aim--the recoil was that strong. The BK 50 saw very limited use. Second ,the 410 never saw nightfighter use. Third,by the time it was taken out of action by late 1944,the 110 was still in use,though mainly as a nightfighter.

[@johnsanabria3279]

Have to make a retraction.......after checking a source I have on the 410,it was used for night interception duty. I stand corrected.

[@SierraThunder]

It was used more for night interdiction against the Lanc's as the Bf-110's Schrage Musik setup could be incredibly dicey, sometimes taking out both the Bf-110 along with the Lancasters. But the Me-410's BK 50 had such a phenomenal recoil that the airframe had to be thoroughly examined after each flight due to the airframe's distortion caused by firing the canon more than twice in less than 3 minutes time. The recoil could also cause an immediate loss of airspeed, sometimes almost putting the 410 into an immediate, and an unwanted stall. The North American B-25G & H Mitchell's used in the Pacific Theatre also occasionally experienced drastic loss of airspeed caused by the recoil from 75mm canon placed in the lower port side of it's nose. In fact, one of the first pilots to use the G model in combat mistakenly thought that the nose had exploded, and almost called for an immediate bailout, plus the plane's airspeed momentarily dropped to 135 knots from 315

[@peterszar]

You comment on this? what about the 2200 ton bombload, seems a bit high. Duh

[@johnsanabria3279]

@@peterszar So he made a mistake.....it's understood that no plane in. WW2 could carry a 2200 ton bomb load for any great distance.

[@EricHamm]

​@@SierraThunder Thanks for the extra info. I knew there was a reason why I haven't seen anyone put tank cannons on planes. Imagine instead of kamikazee they had dudes with a a howitzer cannon strapped to the plane that only had 1 shot before crashing.

[@The.Drunk-Koala]

I love the 410, it's a beautiful bird

[@jeffreymcdonald8267]

One of the most beautiful airframes of the war. Digging in deeper, it becomes apparent that once again the Luftwaffe aircraft suffers from under-powered and unreliable engines. The Myth of German engineering in WW2, Panzercorp and Luftwaffe, really does suffer from an honest and in depth research.

[@peterszar]

What a marvelous aircraft, a 2200 ton bombload (04:34 min.) in the 40's. Why can't we do that now??? ha ha. What a joke these "Dark" idiots are.

[@andrewtaylor940]

The German problem wasn’t exactly one of Engineering. The biggest problem was they mated their engineering in such a way that refinements improvements and changes were happening directly on the production line. The result being that often the same model tanks had enough differences to frustrate and stymie maintenance and repair. Some describe it as no two tanks being exactly the same. They also did not give enough initial thought to the field serviceability of engines, transmissions, etc. with the design expectation that the equipment could be cycled back to the heavy maintenance facilities or factories for overhaul. Part of this is the initial design engineers did not really know how or where the equipment was to be used. Not being privy to Hitler’s plans. Contrast that with the American Sherman Tank. While on paper inferior in many ways to the German Panzers and Tigers, it’s designers knew how and where it would be used. They knew it was going overseas with no possibility of return to the factory. So the production was kept tightly consistent. Tanks of the same model were the same. It was designed to be fully field serviceable. Every US vehicle carried a tool set that could be used to service or repair almost everything related to the vehicle. Be it Tank, Jeep or aircraft. Standardization was more important than bringing every small improvement on line in a rolling manner. The other problem Germany faced was an increasing materials issue. Much like Japan, as the war progressed they were burning through more raw materials, more metals, than they had coming in to factories. And material quality was diminishing. Pre war they could buy the highest quality steel from anywhere in the world and stockpile. But once the war began they were reduced to what they had on hand.

[@tricosteryl]

@@andrewtaylor940 I agree, And adding some other facts. If US, USSR and allies could rely on quantities, Germany could not, and so had no choice but to improve efficiency/quality by constant innovation. Thats why they produced so many promising machines but plagged with "no go" issues and everlasting teething problems. Also, Germany had to deal with fuel problems, from the begining quality problems and at the end of the war quantity problems. Germany had no petrol wells, and was to produce fuel from coal and lignite. The drawback was that it was nearly impossible to produce hi octane fuel. And this was really a burden to engine builders, and impacted aviation engines in particular. Because of this, german aviation engines had a higher cubbage (and weight) than allied engines of same power. Because of fuel quality, german aviation engines had a power ceiling at 2200hp. German machines were sophisticated because this was the only option to compensate the numbers of soldiers, the quantities of vehicules and pletoric equipement the allied could bring to the front. And the sophistication as a big drawback : the serviceability. As you demonstrated, this was the weakness of all german armies at that time.

[@tricosteryl]

@@andrewtaylor940 Adding interesting fact from japanese aircrafts... I was in restoration association for a while when I was young, and our association was in contact with a japanese based organization that was trying to restore a seaplane, and they were searching for technical data. After a while they said the amount of parts was just crazy, because many basic standards parts were build in two versions, one for the port side, and another for the starboard side, including screws, that were clowise on one wing and anticlockwise on the other wings XD This puts the french obsession of symetric rotation of propellers far behind, requiring for each engine one version for clockwise rotation and another for anti clockwise rotation.

[@arrvidcarlson8107]

The issue was more reliable fuel than it was poor engines. Fuel quality and available quantity varied wildly over the course of the war.

[@slipslider9048]

"It's bomb load capacity was limited to 2,200 tonnes" - hmm, yeah that sounds wrong.

[@peterszar]

Ya Hoo, someone else noticed.

[@steellion1803]

More than that

[@JamesJames-jt3ts]

Kgs

[@sternencolonel7328]

the BF-110 didn't defend the "Motherland", in Germany the term "Fatherland" is used.

[@sparky4878]

Russia referred to itself as the Motherland, right?

[@Bramon83]

@@sparky4878 yessir

[@letoubib21]

@@sparky4878 Mommy Stalin *. . . ;-)*

[@KilledMind1985]

Das Vaterland

[@colinmartin9797]

A "2200 ton" bomb load would be hilarious. Imagine that thing dropping bombs about as big as the Saturn 5 rocket.

[@KiwiKaosAgent]

Lol yes I picked up on that laughable facts.

[@steellion1803]

It actually did have bombs that heavy

[@Barker275]

Fantastic thank you for putting this together

[@rabidmidgeecosse1336]

how about the He219 UHU now that was a pretty aircraft, very effective too, but it never really went anywhere, (which is just as well cause it could catch a mosquito)

[@JUNKERS488]

The HE-219 was light years ahead of it's time. It was the first aircraft to have and use an ejection seat. 1 HE219 pilots life was saved twice by the use of the seat. Plus, she packed a punch you would not want to be above or IN front of it. Lol. I loved the camo patterns of the different 219's as well. I used to build 1/32 static Luftwaffe displays for museums and high end collectors and the 219 was one of my favorites. The cockpit alone is so much cleaner looking than other aircraft of the time. No wires running everywhere like on other cockpits. Even the landing gear is cool one of the few tri-cycle type which helps against ground looping during landing. The next closest Luftwaffe aircraft would have been the JU388. I wish they could have kept designing and building the Luftwaffe aircraft at the same pace and direction they were going with these amazing planes. Please don't miss understand me I'm Very Happy the war ended as well as the Nazi party. But, I love Luftwaffe aircraft the things they built and tried along with the speed and advancements in flight was amazing.

[@johngalt3969]

@@JUNKERS488 the specializations mismatched the needs, the most advanced tank of the war was the Panther with its l veiled turret able to fire at a tank at full speed and return an accurate shot, that might have been devastating in offense but the tiger was better for defense, and when it was disabled it was too complicated to fix. A lot of t ch advances at the wrong time for Germany, miss-matched needs

[@tricosteryl]

Yes the Uhu is also one of my favorites. So modern, in many aspects. I think this airvraft could have been a real success. And technically it was. Good aerodynamics, perfect design for the task, performances, terrible punch of long barreled 6x20mm, equipment... Doomed by politics, ideology, and lobbying... lucky was the free world !

[@tricosteryl]

Finally there is not so much about the BK50 / Me 410 in this video The BK 50 was intended from the beginning as an anti aircraft weapon on the 410, in fact, the idea of such a huge AA canon was born long ago, but after evaluating many vectors, they realized that only the 410 would keep enough performance to outrun bombers and climb fast enough. The BK50 had 2 advantages. First, it did not required a direct hit. In fact, the specific shells were equiped with a proximity fuse and detonated while the proximity was detected. Second advantage, the range. The attacker could fire from more than 3000m and that was a respectable security distance. Considering the former advantage, the accuracy was not a crucial point, as the schrapnells could damage aircrafts at hundreds meters from the explosion, and the blast could dislocate any aircraft close. AirFan N°6-7-8 relates one attack, when a deadly direct hit on a 4 engine bomber also dislocated its 2 neigbourghs and severely damaged the fourth member of the box. Really impressive. But that kind of success was very rare As all other heavy fighters, the efficiency was dependant on the possibility to get close enough to the bombers and not being the prey of escort fighters. Thus after taking off early enough to climb at the required altitude and appropriate direction... they have to counter the USAAF strategy. Allied strategic air command were really good at giving deceptive trajectories or informations to the german fighter control, so as the heavy fighter were most of the time too late on the action or too few to have a real impact. Finally the strongest and most feared ennemy of allied bombers was the flak.

[@deanpatterson9036]

"Limited to 2,200 tons!" More than that, you might over stress the wing.

[@jeffmoore9487]

You've got to respect German engineering. 2,200 tons is a pretty good payload for a two engine fighter in 1943!

[@simonjj7397]

I consider the 410 to be the best looking aircraft of WW2.

[@lmc4964]

it looks interesting and a little ahead of its time, but hard to beat the Mosquito or the P-38 in terms of looks

[@tricosteryl]

I just cant say there is "one" best looking. Consider He219, Ar234.... P61... P38, Yak3, LeO 451....

[@attila7092]

Fine looking plane. The Hornet name fits

[@letoubib21]

2200 tons bombs?! What a great bomber! The Allies didn't have anything equal, did they?

[@leonardmiyata482]

Closest thing would be a twin engine Beechcraft attack aircraft, the XA-38 Grizzly, which was equipped with a 75mm auto loading cannon. Unfortunately, the aircraft used the same engines as the much higher priority production project, the B-29. One of the prototype A-26 was equipped with the 75mm cannon as a bomber destroyer, but never went into production And there was a paper design proposal to equip a P-38 with the auto loading 75mm, but that proposal never saw the light of day

[@fishjohn014]

@@leonardmiyata482 hes making a sarcastic comment about the narrator's misspoken details

[@lambastepirate]

I have seen else where that they never used it as a bomber the doors went from the front of the fuselage to almost the back of the cockpit. They said when they opened the bomb bay doors it became nearly unflyable! It was capable of carrying the 2,200 lbs of bombs though they never let them attempt bombing in combat

[@halogeek6]

We wouldn't get anything close till the Hercules. And that ficker is still flying warzones today!

[@lambastepirate]

As for the allies yes the Mosquito 4,000lbs the A-26 invader 6,000lbs and others.

[@Mrgunsngear]

Thanks

[@opoxious1592]

Do you guys also have a weak spot for 2 engine fighter bombers? I love all WW2 types of fighterbombers, like the P-38 lightning

[@ImWallace799]

Hey, I'm a twin engine small plane fan, mainly pe 2, tu 2 and me 410. We like them because they always look cool.

[@lazyboylarry4345]

He said, "the bomb bay capacity was LIMITED to 2200 TONS." 😆😄

[@Narmacil427]

I see the plane and keep hearing the Narwhals song.

[@tubthump]

The title starts "tank wrecking..." so where were the tanks?

[@Litauen-yg9ut]

Maybe an assumption due to the 50mm

[@jamesdalton2014]

Just a mistake in a video full of them. Not one of Dark Skies best efforts.

[@tricosteryl]

The BK50 was a derivative from an anti tank weapon, but was intended as an anti aircraft gun only. The video is not really precise this time, not the best of the series.

[@tricosteryl]

@baileyboy73 baileyboy73 confirmed

[@TopSecretVid]

what a beast...and pretty looking.

[@russingle1340]

Wow! 2200 ton bomb load and on top of beating all those badass polish bi planes too.I guess the brits were lucky to have those awesome hurricanes and spitfires

[@ae1586]

Lol that’s like Pilatus pc12 being compared to a cub or Cessna 152. One cruises at 105 knots and the other stalls at 120 lolol

[@oneshotme]

Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

[@geordiedog1749]

That’s an impressive bomb load:)

[@Bramon83]

I so love dark skies

[@JRCinKY]

Another Great Video from you. I did not know I was So Ignorant until I started watching your videos. Thank You.

[@oveidasinclair982]

Not much info on the 410's anti tank roll, as a night fighter it could have been deadly to the UK's Landcasters if they guided in by ground radar controllers especially with that 50mm cannon.

[@fobbitoperator3620]

The A-10 is the 410's grandkid!

[@JAQUESDIBLET]

Love your channel Brother .Thank you .

[@Bob.W.]

That's one heck of a bomb load.

[@wombatwilly1002]

Here's one i knew very little about!

[@ZZstaff]

Thank you.

[@jimmyjamz5055]

Nice looking plane.

[@johnparnell9488]

I love your channel!

[@joebloggs8422]

There’s a Hornet in the RAF museum Cosford, lovely looking plane

[@admiral_alman8671]

In warthunder this thing is OP in tank battles

[@brenglover72]

Great looking aircraft.

[@toddlinder-flowman6687]

Loving your channel!!

[@daddynunya9045]

My knowledge of this aircraft is limited and I was hoping this video would answer a few questions I have had. Sadly it didn't. If anyone has answers to whether this plane with its 50mm was ever used in an antitank role and how good/bad it performed, I would greatly appreciate your response.

[@marcussalieri2408]

It never was used as such

[@daddynunya9045]

@@marcussalieri2408 Thank you

[@PanzerdivisionWiking]

Awesome video man, thank you for the information

[@MRptwrench]

Only 0:19 in, Did the Voice of Dark say "Underwing MORTARS"?!? Color me enthused!

[@juncondoonflanjacontose7399]

Such a beautiful aircraft.

[@jmanj3917]

Just goes to show that technology doesn't win wars; People, and the decisions they make, are what wins (or loses) wars.

[@micksedunary7304]

And the 210 had a 2,200 ton restriction on its bomb load ...? - Wow never knew that either.....

[@karlk6860]

On a lot of points John below is correct with his comments. The 410 with its big gun was seen as the perfect weapon to know bombers down and it might have been but when the P51 came on the scene the bombers had escort all to the way to and from their targets and the 410 was essentially a coffin for its crew when it had to deal with enemy fighters. What little they did fly as night fighters was marginal but in emergencies they would tell them to go up during the day and darned few returned. Pretty much it evolved into an almost complete failure for the Germans

[@derin111]

A really good looking aircraft too!

[@mikehartman5326]

2200 Ton bomb capacity. A speed of Mach 12 and a range of 4 flights around the Earth or 7 times if it carried drop tanks. For guns it carried two 18.1 inch Yamato triple turrets on each wing. Its' service ceiling was slightly over 100 kilometers and from a cold start it could reach 30,000 feet in 0.9 seconds. In its' first combat mission it shot down 2300 aircraft and destroyed 1232 tanks. It's longest kill was slightly under 6200 miles after it was fitted with the laser pulse cannon guided by a Super Cray Computer. It could comfortably carry 5000 passengers and had the capacity to break apart atmospheric water vapor into oxygen and hydrogen and use for propulsion if the Dilithium Crystals were needed to power the cloaking device. Production began in 476 BC and ended in 1945. Just a mere 75,999,000 were produced. All these stats were verified by Dark Skies.

[@LordVulcan93]

I use this in World of Warplanes. It's pretty awesome.

[@fedupgamer9075]

So do I, it's my favorite German aircraft. Ironically the ME 210 at T5 is not a bad aircraft in game.

[@davidbeattie4294]

The Bf 110 didn't battle the US 8th AF at night. The US was committed to daytime precision bombing. The RAF flew at nite and the Bf 110 was extremely effective against the un-escorted and poorly armed British night bombers. On a side note, the Spitfire was not used for long range bomber escort into Germany. It lacked the range. P-38s could reach Berlin in 1943 and eventually P47's gained the range to provide escort at least part of the way as well.

[@jackmann9031]

Without TOTAL air superiority, this thing was a sitting duck.

[@0Turbox]

Most sophisticated looking plane of the war. Two 30 mm guns would be more than enough for shooting down bombers, thought.

[@ginli2567]

The fighting footage looks exactly like how i play that plane in war thunder, lagging when tracking, and just flanked by another spitfire ;;

[@astrafaan]

Knowing WT the spitfire is probably on your side ;)

[@franz.isler799]

Great feature and period aerial documentary videos featuring the Me 210 and of course, the Me 410 Hornisse. BUT... (2:40) in common usage for the other side -- it is "fatherland" (Vaterland)..not "motherland." (4:34) bomb load is 2200 lbs.(not tons). (6:17) what's going on--shooting a "captured" P-51 while in training? (7:04) Thanks for featuring also the 2 X side-mounted half-teardrop-shaped Ferngerichtete Drehringseitenlafette FDSL 131/1B remotely operated turret. Never seen that one being moved around remotely. Good protection for the vulnerable rear angle of the 410 Hornisse. It unfortunately doesn't change the fact that Messerschmitt created two of the most disliked Luftwaffe (and least successful) heavy fighters of WW2.

[@mybluebelly]

A really cool warbird.

[@evill01]

My favorite plane in war thunder so far

[@corsair149]

Beautyful Aircraft

[@joeottsoulbikes415]

I listened again and he did said twenty two hundred tons. I jave a feeling the writers messed up and I think they meant 222LBS. For how small the bay looks under the belly with the machine guns and cannon taking up so much room it would only leave room for like like 6 smaller 37lbs bombs. That would be just enough for a decent spread over a dive bomb target releasing right as they pulled out at speed flinging them one after another with 1 second delay each. A 37lbs high explosive bomb would make a large enough explosion to take out a small house. So six of them could be used against parked planes, offices, barracks, repair hangers, motor pools, radar and other such installations and do significant damage over a 20ft wide by 120ft when dropped at 1 second intervals and a blast radius of 20ft which is reasonable. About 37lbs of high grade TNT would make a blast of 15 to 25ft. More if hitting fuel or ammo. The only thing it would have no affect against would be hardened dug in fortress nest a d submarine pins.

[@teodor9975]

i have been looking at this plane for a while. and i have started to wonder.... why not turn it into a single seat heavy fighter? just push the cockpit a bit back and have the nose dedicated to 30mm cannons and maybe a twin 50mm setup

[@rickjones3886]

The single 50 weighed around a ton

[@allangibson2408]

The Americans put a 75mm tank gun into a B-25 for anti shipping use…

[@teodor9975]

@@allangibson2408 which still is a medium bomber. Larger, more spacious and... I don't know.... completely different?

[@teodor9975]

@@rickjones3886 and yet they managed to put 1 50mm gun on these things. And that includes the additional weight of 2nd seat, machine guns, rear turret and its systems. So all that weight reduction by making it a single seater would allow for potentially 2 of those guns to be added.

[@allangibson2408]

@@teodor9975 The B-25 was pretty much the same size of the larger WW2 fighters…(Like the P-61 and Beaufighter for example).

[@CaptainQueue]

IMO the Soviets found the ideal airborne cannon size in WWII with the 30mm which could kill every German Panzer type, and an aircraft can carry many more 30mm rounds compared to 50mm. The modern A-10 warthog's cannon is 30mm for example as well as most US Army helicopter gunships. Not to mention, 30mm is very effective against shipping.

[@tricosteryl]

In the case of Me410, the BK50 was intended as an anti bomber weapon only, and was a derivative from an antitank gun. Special optics and aiming devices were designed for the Me410/BK50, starting to aim at a bomber from 5000m. But in combat, the engagement range was most of the time between 1500 and 3000m

[@robbybee70]

title: Wrecking Tanks instances of plane destroying tanks in video: 0

[@majorkursk780]

Do any ME410 examples exist in any accessible museums or collections?

[@joeclaridy]

I would hope so

[@Pixy335]

At least one is still in existence. In Duxford if I remember correctly.

[@jadensweetwood9246]

I think their is one at the Smithsonian. I know I've seen one somewhere

[@andyc3088]

@@Pixy335 it's at the Royal Air Force Museum Cosford

[@eisenhertz]

20200 tones,thats a new one!

[@rodneycooperLMSCoach]

So that's where the idea for the A10 warthog came from.

[@stanfrymann8454]

"limited to 2200 tons"....some bomb load ! (9:24) Just think if they hadn't limited it!

[@99PMoon]

It reminds me of my beloved A-10 Warthog.

[@theprojectproject01]

Once again, we see that 'If it looks right, it is right.' Beautiful airframe; I wonder how it would do with a pair of turboprop mills. I bet it'd go like a scalded cat.

[@snakemanmike]

He really said that the ME 210 's bomb capacity was limited to twenty two HUNDRED TONS. WOW. 4.14 millions pounds.

[@clarencehopkins7832]

Good to know thanks

[@markscheffer3580]

Where is it wrecking tanks .....? Love the commentry.

[@infoscholar5221]

"Its bomb load was limited to 2200 tons." They must have known a cheat code, eh?

[@fload46d]

Obviously the ME 262 was the answer but Hitler slowed its development and thus its effectiveness. The Hornet looked like an answer also.

[@jamesricker3997]

Hitler didn't actually slow the development he took advantage of the delays in engine development to make the Me-262 a fighter bomber Hitler intended to use them over Normandy but more delays with the engines prevented that from happening

[@dave8599]

had the germans prolonged the war, they would have been nuked first. it is not like germany didnt deserve it either. should have glassed germany

[@TalkingGIJoe]

a gorgeous design...

[@ploomperera395]

I dont know but the ME410 always give me the Puccara vibes, is it only me?

[@docholliday7157]

4:35 - "limited to 2,200 TONS"?!!??? I'm pleased you guys have narrator's now, it's time to get some editors.

[@malcolmcarter1726]

Good show man but just one little point. Call a spade a spade, it's called an Me 410 Hornisse ! It's a German plane ,not a British or US aircraft. Translated it is a Hornet. Would you call an Arado Ar 234 Blitz a Lightning? Or an Me 262 Shwalbe a Swallow? Of course not. I was interested to hear that it had a twin endplate style tailplane originally. This I have never come across until now. The prototype Ju 87 Stuka had a twin tailplane and looked radically different to the Ju 87B & D/G models that we are used to seeing. I do love your shows all of your Dark subject progs are intensely interesting so please excuse my little winge about nomenclature, though it is kinda important for people to know the correct names for these amazing wunderflug.

[@tracyrreed]

4:33 "It's bomb load capacity was limited to 22 hundred tons" We sure do have high standards! 🤣

[@peetsnort]

Only one mistake... 2200 ton load. But that's understandable. Just a typo. You have made a good video of a plane i never knew about. I wonder if that swivel gun on the side worked properly. Because its arc of fire was stupendous.

[@ImWallace799]

Only soul in this comment section to understand that it was a mistake

[@marchellochiovelli7259]

Almost as gorgeous as the UHU night fighter.

[@auro1986]

in thd last 3 remaining minutes of the video you talk about the aircraft mentioned in video title?

[@GVBiggs524]

I think he meant. when talking about the 210's bomb load being 2200 tons, I'm pretty sure he really meant pounds...

[@scottschleh6584]

Tank killer? Never heard of that before. Primarily a (hopefully) bomber killer I think.

[@Ser_Redshirt]

The 410 gets a lot of shade thrown at it from Warthunder, but I feel like that's because people don't know how to use it. It's for killing bombers, folks, not dog fighting with P-51's.

[@bernardwills9674]

You camp out at high alt....dip into the fight...blow something up then retreat before anything gets on your tail. This works even against fighters BUT you have to be in and out before anything latches on because you have zero capacity to evade.

[@jimsheldonswe7846]

Don’t think he meant 2200 ton bomb load. Nice vid.

[@jackt6112]

2200 tons of bombs, WOW! Four-million four-hundred thousand pounds of bombs is equal to 1/8th of the power of the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. The German fighter/bombers WERE ahead of their times. We need that airplane to replace our aging B-52s since it can carry 63 times as great a payload in bombs. That big gun has SOME range too! Just think, the US bombers were on the ground in Britain at night while the ME 410 Hornet was taking them out. I can see why they needed that telescopic sight. It takes some pretty good magnification to hit a B-17 580 miles away. That definitely IS out of the range of the B-17's defensive fire. WOW!, that German technology was something!

[@lukewarmwater6412]

so. if the hornet taxi'd up to puff it would be greeted with "grandpa!!"..... under-wing mortars??!!! holy shit!!

[@user-ex4si2md6r]

An amazing video of Germany's last ditch effort to build a heavy hitter and try to get an advantage

[@shawnbeckmann1847]

2200 tons?? That damn airplane could carry a Fletcher class destroyer almost ....wow German technology is impressive

[@cavemanbum]

4:34 - 2200 tons? Ooof! That's quite a bomb load!

[@scootergeorge9576]

pounds

[@stevehicks8944]

The 8th Air Force operated in daylight bombing, not night.

[@danielgreen3715]

Interesting plane Some Bomb load! Haha ..Was Kurt Tank involved in this project also?