Shocked no one said Wrestlemania 4. 16 matches,2 of them only went over 10 mins, 10 went 6 mins or shorter. Absolute slog to watch
@arthurrhodes321510 ай бұрын
its nostalgia for me. i think the first ppv i watched when i was young was wm3. granted i havent watched it in years but i still remember the tournament fondly
@HBO200110 ай бұрын
Was that the WWF championship tournament mania?
@aztecwrrior199710 ай бұрын
@@HBO2001 Yes
@suds879110 ай бұрын
@@arthurrhodes3215 I get it. My first WM was WM2000. even though it’s disliked by many I still watch it back every now and then.
@topeconhello10 ай бұрын
Yeah Wrestlemania 4 is in my worst Wrestlemania list. Such a painful watch.
@nickman234510 ай бұрын
Luke putting WrestleMania 28 at #3 on the worst WrestleManias list is a hotter take than putting Steiner Math at #1 on the best promos list
@drexeldragon172310 ай бұрын
It's egregious, honestly. End of an Era alone should exempt it from this list. Imagine putting 28 lower than 11.
@nickman234510 ай бұрын
@@drexeldragon1723 Fact that nobody put Mania 9 in the top 3 is wild
@lewismaclean88496 ай бұрын
@@drexeldragon1723 I'm sorry man, I recently watched that match because wrestling fans and list on KZbin constantly sing the praises of that match. I was watching with the video sped up, because it bears repeating. The match was good. After 25 miniutes. The ending of Taker kicking out of both Michaels and Trips finishers is really the only thing that match is really remembered for.
@aaronbenson45324 ай бұрын
Personally it's on my top 10 hated list but 3rd worst is a tad stupid. The card only had taker and hhh that lived up to its hype
@robjgolde32213 ай бұрын
WM 4 should’ve been in that spot.
@PowerGaming_2810 ай бұрын
36 is definitely not a good wrestlemania but I wouldn't be able to add it to the list because they couldn't make it better if they tried with the circumstances
@user-dt4sb1dw5t10 ай бұрын
Exactly. It shouldn’t really count lmao
@mageside10 ай бұрын
of course they could have: Getting rid of Vince McMahon sooner!! That would have solved a lot of issues and possibly even Triple H would have avoided his heart issues at that point!! Vince was clearly the problem then, now and forever
@MatTMurdockNT10 ай бұрын
Was just going to say that. Mania 36 is kind of an outlier because everything that made it bad was out of their control
@Mr_Leo_DS10 ай бұрын
@@mageside off topic
@Mr_Leo_DS10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I feel bad for bashing this Mania
@SirZapdos10 ай бұрын
Luke putting WM 28 at #3 is as mind-meltingly baffling as the Stache Club Wrestling guys not knowing about the My Way video package
@kashtrey10 ай бұрын
I feel like I'm always shocked but they're more ruthless aggression era fans right? Maybe even later
@lewismaclean88496 ай бұрын
@@kashtrey They are Ruthless aggression era fans. I'm not a wrestling fan, I just happen to watch their stuff because it's very entertaining to see them mess up on wrstling trivia. Btw, we need to have them on Survival series.
@UltimateFarmer0074 ай бұрын
They are pg era fans they started watching i think in 08@@kashtrey
@Anakin199910 ай бұрын
Luke picking 28 is WILD…..
@KilljoyRPMX10 ай бұрын
legit, sure the undercard is mid as hell but punk/jericho, rock/cena and end of an era are good enough to carry it to at least a 7/10
@thecoasterfollower356410 ай бұрын
He is a contrarian
@jackcampion38389 ай бұрын
It’s not one of the best manias but it’s definitely not 10 worst
@showtime12355 ай бұрын
idk i rewatched it recently and it is NOT good lmao
@paulpaterno751610 ай бұрын
36 needed an asterisk because of the circumstances. I DID enjoy the distraction during the pandemic and they were able to do things outside the box with Firefly and Boneyard that wouldn't have happened otherwise. Wouldn't have put it on the list imo. So many early manias could have replaced it.
@davidharman366510 ай бұрын
Yeah I think Boneyard and Firefly funhouse alone takes it out of the bottom 10 and I also think Rhea and Charlotte have an excellent match.
@philipreid254210 ай бұрын
Didn't find it a distraction tbh, more of a reminder that we couldn't go to anything
@abcrazy910 ай бұрын
If someone other than Tempest was on this episode I don’t think 36 would have made top three as it did here. He is too much of a wrestling first purest to allow the Boneyard and Firefly Funhouse Match to “carry” the mania out of a worst position.
@Steadysphere10 ай бұрын
The fact that a Wrestlemania with a full capacity crowd was so bad it got ranked worse than a pandemic-era one with no crowd speaks to how absolutely terrible that Mania was. So glad I wasn't keeping up with wrestling as well back then.
@joshualarkin690210 ай бұрын
Wrestlemania 4: “I’ve never done anything wrong in my life” Pete, Luke, & Tempest: “We know.”
@Isaygoodday58 ай бұрын
I think their reaction would be more like: "...oh yeah you exist, I forgot"
@ousmansano2110 ай бұрын
28 on here by Luke is crazy
@fantaconsumer10 ай бұрын
Yeah, utter bollocks
@JOEYG02810 ай бұрын
fr
@SGCentral10 ай бұрын
28 is like a good 3/5, the headline matches delivered and nothing else really mattered
@100carlosfermin10 ай бұрын
HUGE sneak lmao
@GarryLarryBarry10 ай бұрын
Dondon't understand at all.
@chrisuncleahmad78910 ай бұрын
27 is the worst Mania. 36 had circumstances beyond its control, 32 had injuries to Cena/Orton/Rollins/Bryan. 27 OTOH has no such excuses.
@ChrisTomson4 ай бұрын
32 could still work if they let more of the faces win, or if they’d built some of their wrestlers better, or if Reigns/HHH was about 80% shorter. It was definitely a cursed show, but they did themselves no favours
@rammyboyz649210 ай бұрын
Is now the wrong time to say I loved wrestlemania 25 unironically? (Aside from the Santina stuff)
@MrSamBerrett110 ай бұрын
25 is over hates because of Santina and the main event. Everything else is at least ok or better
@dragonitematero10 ай бұрын
No, me too, it was the first Wrestlemania I ever watched.
@myrnarosas626210 ай бұрын
Same, it was my first mania and it has a special place in my heart
@vampirascoffin87010 ай бұрын
@@MrSamBerrett1 no bro 25 sucked stop it
@ht82smash10 ай бұрын
I was there so no 😂😂😂😂
@MrNobody919 ай бұрын
1:29 Theyre crazy if they really think the Iron Man Match is really bad tbh. Like, is it the best iron man match, no, but it isnt a bad match. I just dont understand how people can say its some horrible match, when it isnt. Ik its opinion based and not everyone has the same opinion, but its a great match actually. Like recently as the years go on i hear more and more and it makes 0 sense to how they call it a horrible match
@ExtremeGodWrestling10 ай бұрын
It's sad how WrestleMania 36 could've been one of the best WrestleManias, but ended up being one of the worst, that just shows you how important fans are to wrestling
@timevans500010 ай бұрын
Wrestlemania 28 at 3 for Luke shocked me. I thought it was amazing
@vampirascoffin87010 ай бұрын
really?? 28 was ok
@SimplementeRene10 ай бұрын
I mean, compared to 27 and 29, 28 was beautiful 😂@@vampirascoffin870
@sebastianb.3978Ай бұрын
@@vampirascoffin870Kane vs Orton was decent, Punk vs Jericho was really good, End of an Era Match was f'n cinema, and "Once" in a lifetime was good too if you look at it in a Twice in a Lifetime free vacuum
@ChrisPayneHBTW10 ай бұрын
The fact that no champion at the end of Wrestlemania 31 was on Wrestlemania 32 due to injury is baffling Also Luke having 28 even in the top 10 is just wild
@AceTheSkylord10 ай бұрын
4:33 See I disagree with Tempest and Luke here. Going into Mania 25, Randy Orton/Legacy vs Triple H/The McMahon family was *the* hottest angle going on TV and was almost single handedly carrying Raw at the time. Yes they massively fucked up the payoff by a) having this be just a regular 1v1 instead of a weapons filled war and b) not having Orton win but still, at that moment in time it made sense for it to main event
@fantaconsumer10 ай бұрын
Agreed it should have just been hell in a cell
@Saltyoven10 ай бұрын
Hell in a cell OR an I quit match
@ritangshubhattacharya165410 ай бұрын
Triple H vs Orton had been done to death already much before that. 9 months before that Mania, they were having Steel Cage and LMS fights. No matter how much you dress up the build, there was just no interest in seeing them lock up again.
@donazard888410 ай бұрын
@@ritangshubhattacharya1654 See, I disagree with that because while it had been done before, the build to the match a lot of people found so intriguing and compelling that they were all in to see them beat the hell out of each other at Mania. The problem, said before was that it should've been a No Holds Barred, anything goes, Unsanctioned match and let the two go all out but instead they made it so that if Triple H got disqualified, he would lose the title, resulting in them just having a normal match which nobody wanted. It also didn't help the fact that it went on after Undertaker vs HBK which was so good that it would've been hard for any match to follow it up.
@kashtrey10 ай бұрын
@@donazard8884 I love HHH and he was my favorite Superstar from the attitude era but making it a stip match would've done nothing to make the match more memorable. HHH thinking he could outwork taker/hbk was always a bad decision fueled by ego.
@JGBlmao10 ай бұрын
Wasn't expecting to get jumpscared by Dave Chapelle partway through this video lol
@OnABedOfStice10 ай бұрын
I’m gonna be honest, and I might be in the minority on this, but I was really put off by the use of what I imagine was a transphobic joke by Chapelle? While the line “What is a woman?” works great in context for the joke WT was making, hearing that out of Dave’s mouth I can only think of his transphobia. It genuinely took me out of the video for a bit. I know WT/PFK/NRB try to be and are very inclusive and supportive, so I wasn’t expecting to encounter that here. I truly love everyone there, and I support both NRB and WT on Patreon; I’m not really mad about it, but I do hope that clip and others like it won’t continue to be part of their editing techniques in the future.
@jakeevans65610 ай бұрын
@@OnABedOfSticehonestly I’m glad you said this because I was literally just about to myself
@TheDutchDude5326 ай бұрын
@@OnABedOfStice If a small clip like that offends you, you might be the problem.
@OnABedOfStice6 ай бұрын
@@TheDutchDude532 I mean, yeah, transphobia offends me. If that makes me the problem then okay 🤷🏻♂️
@TheDutchDude5326 ай бұрын
@@OnABedOfStice it’s being a snowflake that’s the problem, it’s a comedian. If he tells a joke it doesn’t make him transphobic, it means you can’t take a joke. Isn’t the point of the whole lghdtv stuff that they want to be included? Well then don’t start crying when you’re also included in a joke by a comedian.
@maosin66610 ай бұрын
With what we had and what was going on in the world... Wrestlemania 36 was great. I understand and agree with the fact that it's hard to watch back and I probably will never do that again but it still made me forget about the shittiness of the pandemic for a brief moment.
@talonthehand10 ай бұрын
So I can’t defend Mania 27 rationally, but it was my first one. And I got to watch my best friend get more and more pissed off, so it just gives me warm feelings to this day. And The Miz’s video package rules.
@rogregg2944510 ай бұрын
I was there live so like I can’t hate the whole show a lot of it was dreadful but like it still had some good stuff in it. And yes that video package was fantastic
@brunosilva82810 ай бұрын
I disagree with 28 and 36 been here in the list
@vampirascoffin87010 ай бұрын
28 was ok but not great
@lazypaladin10 ай бұрын
I feel like im the only Pandemic Mania Apologist. _It awkward but could've been worse._
@fantaconsumer10 ай бұрын
Nah it was fun, they just have bad taste, especially having it that low
@aztecwrrior199710 ай бұрын
It was fun and kinda broke the monotony we had during those early pandemic days
@joshjohnson689110 ай бұрын
not to mention in hindsight the whole idea for Taker vs. Shane at HIAC was so Shane could control RAW. Why do you need a HIAC for that? And then the next night on RAW....Vince doing his Vince thing went and gave it to Shane anyway after he lost. So now, that half hour long HIAC match WAS FOR NOTHING.
@TeganCantEven10 ай бұрын
Pleasantly surprised that WrestleMania 4 was left off entirely. To me 36 gets too much hate. The circumstances were unimaginable. They did the best they could and the effort alone makes that show exempt to me. Meanwhile 9 was under-hated here. 9 is so, so bad.
@thecbastion10 ай бұрын
I dont know if its just because it was my first Wrestlemania, but i love 28. I don't understand the hate it gets
@fantaconsumer10 ай бұрын
It isn’t just that, it’s a genuinely good Mania these lads just miss sometimes lol, I swear people remember main events and nothing else
@joshjohnson689110 ай бұрын
Yep, I was there live for Wrestlemania 28. I thought it was a great show
@cr5cc10 ай бұрын
That's how I feel about 12 and 9 never watched back but as a kid I enjoyed both...
@samdath343910 ай бұрын
How Mercedes Mone didn't win the women's championship at mania 32 is beyond me.
@KenzieRetro10 ай бұрын
RIGHT?!
@dnm149910 ай бұрын
Mercedes mone wasn’t on wrestlemania 32 you must be confusing her with her second cousin Sasha banks
@samdath343910 ай бұрын
@@dnm1499 I'm used to calling Mercedes mone now.
@patrickconmy128010 ай бұрын
@@samdath3439you’re some knob
@Jerry_Freestyle10 ай бұрын
The only good couple things about WM27 is HHH coming out to Metallica, and just Stone Cold Steve Austin being there
@coolmanguyjohnny10 ай бұрын
Wrestlemania 32 was my first wrestling Pay-Per-View, and I don't know why I continued to be a wrestling fan afterwards.😅
@koji674510 ай бұрын
Cos you had no point of reference lmao My first was 31, so this was A Thing
@SurvivalModeFree10 ай бұрын
0:01 - 0:05 that joke becomes more funnier every time...
@rotomRASENGAN10 ай бұрын
0:05 One day, Stairs will be involved
@PhillysOkayestDad10 ай бұрын
Top 10 worst gimmick matches???
@connor158610 ай бұрын
I'm waiting for Tables & Stairs, Lists!
@vincentvalen7210 ай бұрын
Best/Worst weapons in wrestling
@1987TimeLord10 ай бұрын
Solid list as usual, chaps. Although If I'm honest, I'm hoping your next few lists shift away from best/worst PPVs as I do feel that a chunk of these picks turned up in your other list videos before now. I have my fingers crossed for Top 10 Best/Worst Factions in future.
@TheMuldoonFella10 ай бұрын
I get the hate behind mania 27 with Miz and Cena main eventing and Lawler vs Cole. But there is some good matches on that card: Punk vs Orton Cody Rhodes vs Rey Mysterio Edge vs Notable Prick Alberto Del Rio Triple H vs Undertaker I know its not a good show but i'm not having it be the worst when you have Mania's 2, 4, 9, 11, 32 and 34 have a less total of good matches than 27
@RobertJW10 ай бұрын
I'm so glad Edge's career didn't end with WrestleMania 27. Because I think 27 got a lot of slack, before 2020, for being Edge's last show. And then he came back at the Royal Rumble! And Adam Copeland is STILL GOING! So now we can hate on WrestleMania 27 *properly*.
@9raff10 ай бұрын
Bury 27 all u want but Taker vs HHH was the only shining star in that whole show.
@EddieLopez-q2t10 ай бұрын
Was it because of the chair shots to the head?
@MultiClassGeek10 ай бұрын
I wonder where Pete put Mania 39 Night 2?
@julioornano842710 ай бұрын
Well they would rank both nights as one but if we did them separately I’d probably actually put it worse than either of 36’s nights, nobody went over , omos (I don’t care if win or lose) to go down with a single f5 in 5mins and auska going 0-4 at mania , and the never ending story due to the same bloodline bullocks
@raymcgirr714310 ай бұрын
TLC list of best wwe/aew debuts ever. Could have some good lists here! Awesome videos gents!
@danwilliams405110 ай бұрын
I love you guys, but talking down on Bret and Shawn at WM12 hearts me heart! 😢 I still enjoy that match lol.
@rubenanthony1610 ай бұрын
Luke putting Mania 28 on the list is crazy to me...but the crazier part is how vastly undersold how bad 9 and 11 are. Those shows are ass! Also 4 should've been at least mentioned somewhere
@MrSamBerrett110 ай бұрын
Luke saying HHH vs Taker at 27 blows is baffling to me
@frankanuzzi974013 күн бұрын
Hes out his mind
@ScottYoung2910 ай бұрын
I understand why you put 36 there but it’s very harsh because it’s not their fault and they did their best with what was given
@aeronshade10 ай бұрын
See Luke what you’ve failed to realize is that we can defend the Miz without trying to defend WrestleMania 27
@abhijay693810 ай бұрын
Exactly
@freaksh056010 ай бұрын
It’s sad because I feel like if WM36 happened outside of COVID it would’ve gone down as one of the top five greatest of all time
@michaelcain888710 ай бұрын
WM 27 is made worse by the fact that Miz was concussed, ruining the planned finish. And McMahon basically going, “We gotta finish, so dammit kid, finish!” Dude didn’t know where he was and was essentially told to keep banging his body around. And damn John Cena for making that spot happen the way he did. He could have (and should have) had Miz come down off the barricade so he wouldn’t slam Miz’s skull off the concrete. The match was sloppy to start, didn’t get any better. No real highlights to anything from that show.
@theinvincible31610 ай бұрын
When I started watching wrestling again, 9 was universally accepted as the worst one. A year later, 27 happened and suddenly there was a debate. Now, 9 isn’t even in the top 5. That’s pretty sad.
@jesserice777710 ай бұрын
0:36 *GENERAL KENOBI?!*
@brentsmith913410 ай бұрын
Yes that is the joke
@robertnathan5250Ай бұрын
I wish these WrestleTalk TLC shows were a bit more frequent.
@chaotictherory10 ай бұрын
As an old school fan since the early 80's, Wrestlemania 8 cheated the fans of the Dream Match between Hogan and Flair for the WWF title. Back then it was who was better, Hogan or Flair. You could tell from the fans at that Wrestlmania and at home that the WWF screwed up huge. Mind you, they built up Wrestlemania 8 for that dream match and 2 weeks later changed paths due to Hogan admitting steroid use. That match STILL could've been done because nobody cared that wrestlers were on steroids. We already knew that.
@GameFanatic10 ай бұрын
So, I don't think anyone will see this but I would like to give some creative criticism. I absolutely love these lists/videos but I would love a little more explanation in the decisions. I'm someone who is a massive wrestling fan but don't remember all of these things or PPV's and I just don't want to be researching every choice so I can know that they are talking about. I do agree, most of the time it is fine, it's just some times, I would love more context.
@arnoldvelasquez647310 ай бұрын
I am so glad Pete shares my absolute disdain and hatred for Wrestlemania 34 😂🙌🏼
@echenexcetera570210 ай бұрын
I disagree with Mania 8 being on here, it had two great matches in Piper vs Bret and Flair vs Savage and Ultimate Warriors return
@drexeldragon172310 ай бұрын
There's plenty of Manias that didn't even have two great matches so I agree, it shouldn't be on here.
@lennythegumpsummers88899 ай бұрын
Also through the first couple matches the card seems actually good. Like taker vs Jake was OK. Martel vs michaels OK to. 8 was better than 4,7 and 6
@lukethomson582010 ай бұрын
Suffering from an insane hangover right now and i feel the headache cured as this video plays
@JonathanThicklin10 ай бұрын
9:11 Sauce-less Steve Austin is great 🤣
@LoneLeeLuna10 ай бұрын
Happy St. Paddy’s Day, WrestleTalk. ☘️🇮🇪
@SimoSensaiUK10 ай бұрын
36 is a time capsule, it’s going to be fascinating to look back on in 10 years and a damn sight more entertaining than at least a quarter of other manias. Doesn’t deserve this ranking, similarly 2 needs as asterisk for the experiment - it’s the second mania and with that extremely early in PPV, it’s tough to really follow a guideline of what will work when you don’t have one established.
@landen399410 ай бұрын
I’m bummed they never brought up the ic ladder match from 32. That match ruled, and Ryder winning was awesome.
@aidenbowe21882 ай бұрын
Luke doesn’t get more talk about 28 shouldn’t be on this list. He gave one reason for it being on the list, and it was a filler tag match. Nothing else
@shachardahan108110 ай бұрын
0 mentions of WrestleMania 4? Also 36 and 28 have no business being on this list
@BigWoody8239 ай бұрын
36 was awful. It will never be remembered for anything other than it being a boring show with no one in attendance during a period of time in the world when we were confined to house arrest.
@shachardahan10819 ай бұрын
@@BigWoody823 that's not WWE's fault though. It was a great watch at the time. And the cinematic matches are amazing. I feel like it's kinda unfair to put it in the top 10. Especially when there are definitely worse WrestleManias Just my opinion though
@BigWoody8239 ай бұрын
@@shachardahan1081 it is one of the most un-rewatchable manias there are…that puts it on my list.
@shachardahan10819 ай бұрын
@@BigWoody823I respect your opinion
@BigWoody8239 ай бұрын
@@shachardahan1081 same. Much respect.
@JustYesNo10 ай бұрын
Every time I think about the main event of WrestleMania 27, I think about Miz getting a concussion and don't remember the match.
@ZnekGeddy10 ай бұрын
Shame about WM36 because the Boneyard Match and the Firefly Funhouse Match especially are two of my favorite matches.
@pingustiltskin769310 ай бұрын
For us drivers who love to listen to you guys chat wrestling and absolutely love TLC. Could you guys say your picks please 🙏🏼 great content. Love you all. 😍
@tobiogunyemi76319 ай бұрын
Same boat, and definitely, definitely, definitely this.
@hzoethetaco74929 ай бұрын
Saying the HHH V Taker match in 27 blows is fucking insane
@dorkbomb7810 ай бұрын
Wouldn't be surprised, since Mania is 2 nights now, if they experiment with holding one night in one city and the next in a neighboring city.
@SimoSensaiUK10 ай бұрын
I’m expecting it, half in Saudi half in NY within 5 years
@dorkbomb7810 ай бұрын
@@SimoSensaiUK the me to think of it, The Dub could have cities warring over who gets nights 2. A metric ton of money to be made there
@JoeNeroWest710 ай бұрын
Slightly funny story. I was at WrestleMania 27. I remember really enjoying myself. had lots of drinks, I remember Cody vs Rey was a great match. I think Cody was starting or in the beginning of the Undashing story and had the mask. Good stuff I unironically liked Jersey Shore at the time. So I remember Snooki doing a good looking handspring elbow in the corner. I remember hating Cena at the time. So watching him lose in the main event to the Miz made me happy at the time So now the twist. A big group of my friends went, but one guy couldn't make it because his job didn't approve his time off. So he watched it alone in TV. My buddies and I were talking with him the next day saying how great mania was and blah blah blah. He looked at us like we were crazy and said it was awful. So one by one we all tried to rewatch it that week and slowly realizing how bad the show was. TLDR: being there live and intoxicated in the crowd can change your viewing experience.
@doneakhughes207610 ай бұрын
It's funny because while I don't like WM27 in general, WWE has made me dislike more because of their inability to maintain licensing rights. Undertaker vs HHH was the only good match imo and a big part of what I loved about it was the entrances HHH looking BADASS lit aglow as For Whom The Bell Tolls plays, Taker slowly walking to Johnny Cash. Awesome. And both edited in subsequent replays. Without those what are you left with? An admittedly good but not match between the two and an admittedly all timer of a video package for Miz with Hate Me Now? Show is bad
@TheWobbinator110 ай бұрын
Pete hating Wrestlemania 34 because he was trying to impress a girl and it didnt work is somehow very Pete
@josecasabona62510 ай бұрын
Wrestlemania 34 is THE WORST!
@realDialFforFilm10 ай бұрын
To me, WrestleMania 36 is #0 on this list. It's the worst and something that I'll never watch again, but I also can't hold it against WWE since the circumstances were out of their control.
@thetribalist692310 ай бұрын
I think the iron man match is awesome and Diesel vs Taker was a good big man match. 12 is no where near the worst mania.
@El_Harpo10 ай бұрын
Mania 32 sucked. So I get it. But a dark horse for bad Manias is definitely 34. Goodness that was a tough one
@thatonek1duno10 ай бұрын
I know im in the wrong here, but i kinda liked mania 34 A lot of wrong winners, sure, but hey, champions have to retain sometimes Shinsuke and AJ, Asuka and Charlotte, and Brock and Roman are the only matches I’d change who won, but outside of those i think the show was pretty okay Especially with Seth getting his IC title reign in that absolutely PERFECT opening match.
@El_Harpo10 ай бұрын
@@thatonek1duno Completely fair. It was a lot of factors that went into me not liking the show though
@drexeldragon172310 ай бұрын
@@thatonek1duno34 doesn't deserve the hate it gets. IC opener was a banger. Asuka/Charlotte, despite the finish, was a great match. Nakamura/AJ was solid. It's not their fault that the fans hyped it up to be an 18-star classic. That's the fans' fault. Grade it on what it was, not on what you expected it to be. The mixed tag at this show was also incredible. Go back and rewatch it. It's a trip. And as shitty as the main event was, I actually popped when Brock won. I thought it was hilarious.
@scottdixon19865 ай бұрын
Wrestlemania 28 so high up on a list is crazy. I know all personal opinion. However Taker v HHH, Punk v Jericho and Cena v Rock should have kept it off, or not so high. Also personally I think 36 deserves a pass just due to the circumstances surrounding it
@AnimeRevProductions10 ай бұрын
I'm just gonna suggeat a TLC episode since it's Mania season: Top 10 Best/Worst WWE Title Matches held at Wrestlemania. No WHC or Universal Title matches, just the WWE Title. You really dig deep into some of the matches that happened with that belt on the line Also, gotta agree wuth y'all. F**k Mania 27!
@deondrebrown246610 ай бұрын
To this day, I still have not seen the main event of mania 32. I watched everything leading up to it, but I when triple h's entrance was over, I cut it off.
@kellyvaters168910 ай бұрын
WM 2 would not have been on my top ten list because a) they were still in the "let's throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks" stage, and b) the Dream Team/Bulldogs match was absolutely a MOTY candidate. That said, with the steady growth of PPV even then, it was less a new concept in closed-circuit television or "satellite" television and more a last major push for it before PPV proved more profitable to promoters of all kinds than closed circuit TV.
@Mr_Leo_DS10 ай бұрын
Triple H and Randy Orton absolutely deserved to main event Mania 25... BUT NOT IN A STANDARD MATCH
@tariqtelesford90459 ай бұрын
Should've been a no holds barred or a street fight
@ht82smash7 ай бұрын
EXACTLY
@RobinVegaTv10 ай бұрын
I actually fully agree with all of them. Great job, lads!
@galm22210 ай бұрын
Honestly, not surprised that 36 is on the list. The grandest stage of tjhem all...in an era where a virus effectively placed almost every human being into house arrest. It's probably for that reason why 36 (and really just 2020 post-Elimination Chamber until MitB 2021) would be considered a bad time all around. That said, probably wouldn't have placed it in a podium finish though (9, 32 and 27 from Bronze to Gold for me)
@Brodysseus10 ай бұрын
Dunno why I imagine I would be in one of these videos, so instead I'll just wait for Luke to be in the middle seat to do what I would do: "Tables!" "Are Lists Actually Good?" "And Chairs!"
@z3n_z10 ай бұрын
3:12 Poor Tempest 😂 Quite literally, caught in the middle 🤣
@lewismaclean884910 ай бұрын
Would love to see you do this exact video for NXT Takeovers. Likewise I want to see every NXT Champion as a catergory for Survival Series.
@brettt14110 ай бұрын
All we learned from this TLC is no one can stand michael cole
@z3n_z8 ай бұрын
10:25 Luke is 100% right about the casual fans 😂🤝
@dilbert71910 ай бұрын
The thing about doing Wrestlemania in multiple cities is that now, they actually can do that and have it work. Do Smackdown and Night 1 in one city, and Night 2 and Raw somewhere else. Maybe this is how they facilitate more overseas Manias, by doing an American city for one of the two nights, and London or Paris or Sydney or whatever the other night.
@tjwwe10 ай бұрын
Please do an episode on best Wrestlemania stages, will tie in nicely with Mania XL!
@makalesoederhuysen681010 ай бұрын
Wrestlemania 28 being on the list period is a wild take but to have it as 3rd worst?! Luke what are you smoking
@Merc198710 ай бұрын
sad we won't be able to watch this years wrestlemaina with you guys in person!
@Heelchris10 ай бұрын
When WM 27 happened i was 16 years old and i said to myself, "this'll be the worst Mania of all time," and boy has that statement held up.
@julioornano842710 ай бұрын
I don’t think 36 should be on here.. YES most of us WONT go back to watching it, but there was indeed a lot of good moments/matches…
@LimpPand10 ай бұрын
I agree with Luke, NXT Takeover: Dallas really made me proud to be a wrestling fan. I was not aware of what I was going to witness in Wrestlemania 32.
@SteveGeary5213 күн бұрын
HOW DID NONE OF YOU LIST WM4 AT ALL??? It's an interminable shitshow.
@sheliamonette53910 ай бұрын
I definitely agree about WrestleMania 9. WrestleMania 25 I was there and spent the entire last match texting my friends back home.
@A-Oh-Trey10 ай бұрын
lol yeah, I was at WrestleMania 25 too. And even with attendance bias, I freely admit it was a mid Mania with 1 fantastic match in HBK vs Undertaker. ...Why on earth did they make Triple H vs Orton a regular ol' singles match with DQ? Even without knowing they'd have to follow an all-timer, it was a blood feud that had escalated to the point of home invasion. Baffles me.
@sheliamonette53910 ай бұрын
@@A-Oh-Trey yeah the Undertaker and Shawn match was the best of the card. I did like the Jericho match because of how great Ricky 'the Dragon' (I honestly can't remember his last name) looked at his age.
@A-Oh-Trey10 ай бұрын
@sheliamonette539 Oh yeah, getting to see Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat still go was neat too 'cause he was before my time as a wrestling fan, but I had always heard great things about him. MitB was fun as usual too. I also personally enjoyed Hardy vs Hardy, but I've always been more a Matt fan and know I'm probably in the minority there lol
@sheliamonette53910 ай бұрын
@AyOhTrey I had too. When I got into wrestling it was because of the Von Erichs. My main reason to go was for the Hall of Fame to see them and Stone Cold be inducted. MITB was fun. Matt and Jeff should have been given more time. I hated the build up to the match unfortunately.
@A-Oh-Trey10 ай бұрын
@sheliamonette539 Nice! The Von Erichs were also before my time (didn't get into wrestling until '99/2000), but I've heard of them too as Texas legends. Saw The Iron Claw this year and have even more respect for what they went through now. Also, agreed on the Hardy match build up. The implication of Matt being responsible for Jeff's house getting burned down was an...interesting choice lol
wm 30 is surprising. so is 35 to a lesser extent (my guess for your reasoning is that its too long)
@Ultimate23Dragon5 ай бұрын
@@justinwalker6320 30 was average for an anniversary WrestleMania, & then everything regarding the Lesnar/Undertaker match went down completely overshadowed the entire thing with the possible exception of the main event & Daniel Bryan getting his moment. 35 was not only too long but it was on pace to be a perfect WrestleMania... & then 5 out of the last 6 matches were either train wrecks or had the wrong person win.
@justinwalker63205 ай бұрын
@@Ultimate23Dragon I see where you're coming from. Brock did not need the victory over taker at all and 35 is quite long. But for me they have too much stuff i enjoy to put them as top 10 worst. I'd personally swap em out with wm 13, 33, 8, 25, or 29. Overall u have a good list tho
@CapitalPSY10 ай бұрын
OMG, Luke is my spirit animal with Mania 27. It was the first show I watched with a group of people; only about half the people returned for next year's Mania. That Taker/HHH match was so long and plodding. HHH hitting the Tombstone was like the only mildly interesting thing about it. I genuinely don't get how so many people rank it as one of the better Taker Mania matches (his other two HHH matches were so much better).
@fausthegreat7 ай бұрын
Crazy thing is, Wrestlemania 27 was the first Mania I watched live lol. Cody/Rey, Punk/Randy, Triple H/Taker 2, and the Miz's video package before the main event, are what stuck out to me as what was good about it, but everything else they said was definitely spot on lol
@Nunu.Dolonia7 ай бұрын
Revisiting this video because I went back to rewatch 36, and I do agree with Pete that 36 is full of great matches but the show is unwatchable. A personal note that hurts more is that COVID caused the pandemic shutdowns that gave us Mania 36, and it’s also the illness that led to the heart attack which killed the man behind the best match of that weekend. The one big plus of 36 is giving us the two-night Mania, which is still the best production change WWE has made in decades.
@DinoCrazy156 ай бұрын
Surprisingly enough, Wrestlemania 32 is one of my favourite Wrestlemanias
@WatchThisSpaceMedia10 ай бұрын
Wrestlamania IX is the worst where Hulk Hogan defeated Yokozuna in an unscheduled match where the bell didn't even ring in 30 seconds
@AcornPlays9 ай бұрын
28 is deceptively shit because it's between 27 and 29. Team Johnny Vs Team Teddy, Orton Vs Kane, Big Show Vs Cody, Bryan Vs Sheamus, the Maria Menunous match, CM Punk/Jericho not being THAT good, and the main event being divisive. Like there's actually almost nothing good here.
@SimpolKaiTV10 ай бұрын
i agree to all of the list specially mania 32, man i remember how boring hunter vs blank, we sleep at that match
@wackozackoyt10 ай бұрын
Why is "twice in a life time" such a big deal to people? Very VERY few matches happen just once. Especially when they draw as much as they did.
@paulmoore539210 ай бұрын
Its because the WWE spent a whole year telling us that this match was once in a lifetime. If they didn't book Rock vs Cena at 28 as "Once In A Lifetime" this wouldn't be a problem. From Wrestlemania 27 all the way to 28, they couldn't stop themselves from telling us that it would be once in a lifetime or "never before, never again" all the while planning on doing it twice. Also really doesn't help that while the 1st one was fine, the second one wasn't. One of the wrestling's best examples of false advertising and since they effectively booked the main events of Mania 28 and 29 before 27 had even finished, they put themselves in a bind where if somebody got majorly over, the main events were already set, do it didn't matter how over the person got, they weren't main eventing. Usually, this wouldn't be a problem as this time period was prime "If you're not John Cena, Randy Orton or Brock Lesnar, you can go screw yourself" but then all of a sudden, CM Punk become the hottest thing in wrestling. While I do think Punk shouldn't main event 27 or 28, Punk absolutely should have been in the main event for 29
@wackozackoyt10 ай бұрын
@@paulmoore5392 never before never again was for the survivor series tag match, and my thing is if a match drew THAT much money the first time, why not do it again? I agree 29 should've been punk vs Rock vs Cena, but crapping on a match just because it's a rematch makes little sense to me
@Rocketboy131310 ай бұрын
Can you all just leave the logos at the bottom of the screen for the whole time they are being discussed? Just to help me keep clear what is being talked about and facilitate me googling things.
@lucifersjurisdiction363610 ай бұрын
The issue with WrestleMania 2 was not just three different venues and each one only getting 4 matches, it was each getting 4 matches with most of them being crap.