How to Write Cosmic Horror (Writing Advice)

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Writer Brandon McNulty

Writer Brandon McNulty

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@AryaCyrus
@AryaCyrus Жыл бұрын
So glad to find somebody else saying themes first, monsters second. People don't get it that all the fantasy elements in cosmic horror are merely the surface story. The horror itself is philosophical. If I may add a point to your great video essay, all immortal stories are like that. From Odyssey to Game of Thrones, themes first is the key to immortality.
@ihavespoken9871
@ihavespoken9871 Жыл бұрын
And that applies to writing in general, not just horror. It’s just like what LocalScriptWriter always says when writing characters: “Purpose first, personality second.”
@Mark-in8ju
@Mark-in8ju Жыл бұрын
1. Rejection of anthropocentrism! 2. Unknown or unknowable information. 3. Human insanity or psychological frailty. 4. Powerful but indifferent/evil supernatural entities.
@Mark-in8ju
@Mark-in8ju Жыл бұрын
1. Rejection of anthropocentrism! 2. Unknown or unknowable information. 3. Human insanity or psychological frailty. 4. Powerful but indifferent/evil supernatural entities.
@madmartigan21
@madmartigan21 Жыл бұрын
Minor correction because people get this wrong all the time. Seeing the monster in Bird Box doesn't automatically kill you. It makes you have this uncontrollable urge to kill yourself. In a few people that it doesn't give that urge to it makes them want to kill anyone who's still alive. That's much more terrifying.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Good call. I oversimplified it in this video
@LordBaktor
@LordBaktor Жыл бұрын
I'm a sucker for cosmic horror. Some people say serial killers and stuff that could happen in real life is scarier, but I love the existential dread of a good Lovecraftian story.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Yep, the unpredictability of Cosmic Horror makes it special.
@christinacath4816
@christinacath4816 Жыл бұрын
But if monsters existed, it would be much worse. Because we don't know what to expect from them.
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 Жыл бұрын
the Doctor Who episode Midnight is a great example of cosmic horror as it captures a great sense of claustrophobia onboard the shuttle and the fact that doctor does not know what the unseen threat is really amps up the fear factor
@robertpetrovich6776
@robertpetrovich6776 Жыл бұрын
Steven King once said (in reference to lovecraft) "Nothing you put outside the door is ever as scary as the scatching at the door"
@stratoplayer1988
@stratoplayer1988 Жыл бұрын
The video game Bloodborne is an excellent example of the Forbidden Knowledge trope of cosmic horror. A church creates cures from the blood of cosmic entities that they have little knowledge of. Although the cures work, they slowly begin to mutate those who received them and the whole city begins to fall apart into madness as the townsfolk start attacking one another and become monsters themselves whether they realize or not.
@anarky1765
@anarky1765 10 ай бұрын
Another example is that when you start a New Game +, your Insight from the first playthrough carries over, meaning new enemies that weren’t there the first time are now present, and creatures you thought didn’t manifest until later in the game are revealed to have always been there, invisible to your blissfully ignorant mind.
@bj71000
@bj71000 9 ай бұрын
This is why Bloodborne is my favorite souls game
@snowdogthewolf
@snowdogthewolf Жыл бұрын
Thank you for choosing The Thing as an example for writing advice! As you may have suspected from my avatar, I'm quite the fan. It's my all-time favorite movie of any genre, period. I saw it in a drive-in, sitting on the roof of our station wagon along with my sister (ages 6 and 8, respectively), listening to our parents argue from down below (my dad told my mother it was a Disney movie like ET, just so he could see it in theaters, LOL).
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Hahah what a great story--your dad was a hero that day
@j-rey-
@j-rey- Жыл бұрын
I love your dad. My dad would just sneak me into R rated movies without even telling my mom. And we both turned out fine, right? Right?...
@HabkeineAngst
@HabkeineAngst Жыл бұрын
Bloodborne's lore and world was truly inspirational for me to create a story.
@doormatt72
@doormatt72 Жыл бұрын
My favorite cosmic horror movie is cabin in the woods. That was a very cleverly written movie. I loved it.
@ShinGallon
@ShinGallon Жыл бұрын
I'd say that Stephen King's IT definitely counts as cosmic horror, considering what Pennywise really is (in the book at least, not the movies, neither of which quite nail it) and that's probably my favorite. I reread that book about once every 5-6 years and having first read it when I was 10 (the approximate age the characters are in the 1958 sequences) and again when I was 40 (around their age in 1985) definitely gave me new appreciation for a lot of the themes in the book. The Thing is one of my absolute favorite movies. It's a masterclass in atmosphere and mood, the story is tight, the acting sublime, and the effects nearly flawless. I watch it at least once every October, sometimes more. The Mist is another good novella by King, and the film proves what I've long maintained (that Frank Darabont should be the only person allowed to adapt King's work into film). The new ending the film has surpasses the original story in my opinion.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's been forever since I read IT, but I think it fits the bill, especially considering Pennywise's cosmic origin. I love both endings of The Mist. The movie version unquestionably has more impact, but there's something chilling about the "What do we possibly do now?" note that the novella ends on.
@RainisaurusRox
@RainisaurusRox Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't call It cosmic horror. The creature itself, yes, but the story is more a classic horrorstory. The feel, the theme, the plot. It answers way more questions than it leaves unanswered. You can easily escape by just leaving town, it has a very happy ending... And like often the true horror comes with the people, It doesn't really do much compared to what people do to eachother.
@dreamermj
@dreamermj Жыл бұрын
Not seen the mist yet (tried to avoid the spoilers) but Carpenter's version of the Thing was always amazing due to the creativeness of the creature and just how unique the atmosphere and setting was.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Top-notch movie monster, without question
@feliperojas-doomride
@feliperojas-doomride Жыл бұрын
not my favorite, but one that I highly recommend watching
@stefmoneythebigfella7156
@stefmoneythebigfella7156 Жыл бұрын
I think Dead Space is the perfect example. It checks all boxes
@pferdebert
@pferdebert Жыл бұрын
"The Empty Man" is fantastic is fantastic. I think it was mismarketed as the trailer makes the impression that this is a teen slasher but actually it is a cosmic horror gem.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Loved it. The movie feels like a blend of Shutter Island, Blade Runner, and the Silent Hill games. I was gripped all the way through
@thihsareb
@thihsareb Ай бұрын
My favorite Cosmic Horror story is Shadow Out of Time by H P Lovecraft. I love the Yith.
@tylerjames7449
@tylerjames7449 Жыл бұрын
“Event Horizon” goes well with this genre discussion
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wanted to include EH but I haven't watched it in ages. Definitely need to give it a rewatch one of these days
@dyingember8661
@dyingember8661 Жыл бұрын
I think the key factor is DEFINITELY not to explain too much about the threat the protagonists encounter (the protagonists can even defeat them in the story in a way, but it must not be done in an easy way), or else it just loses the flavor completely and utterly to the point it doesn't "deserve" to be called cosmic horror anymore.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Yep, the alien should remain alien. The mystery shouldn't end along with the story
@dyingember8661
@dyingember8661 Жыл бұрын
It's just so sad that most people just want results and sometimes all they want is the results, so the narrative, the story, all the good stuff just have to make way of it, and even sad thing is that those people didn't really care about the results as well, they see it, they happy, and they just leave, left all those who cared about the things that can only hold up together by mystery in pain...@@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@errantwinds-up8uu
@errantwinds-up8uu Жыл бұрын
My favourite cosmic horror is actually the console game Eternal Darkness (Sanity's Requiem). It's pretty old now but the way it introduces the cosmic horror slowly through Alex's experience in her uncle's old mansion, going through the generations of forbidden knowledge... the creepy visuals, the expanding concepts... ah man, it's amazing. Heavily Lovecraftian in a good way.
@nonsequiturm
@nonsequiturm Жыл бұрын
If anyone plays the GameCube game due to this recommendation, in the beginning of the game you have to make s choice. Choose green for the best experience.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal game, although I never finished it because I got stuck around midway through (it might've been after one of the Spanish Inquisition sections). I really need to give EDSR another shot one of these days
@bramderacourt9499
@bramderacourt9499 Жыл бұрын
Uzumaki is probably the most effective cosmic horror story I've read, for the simple reason that, by the last few chapters, it really didn't matter what the protagonists did; they were screwed either way. You spiral down with them because you just want some semblance of an answern
@GeneralPenguiniscool
@GeneralPenguiniscool Жыл бұрын
Can we get a video on the ways to write and foreshadow twist villains?
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
I'll add it to my request list--thanks!
@t.j.aarons889
@t.j.aarons889 Жыл бұрын
My favorite cosmic horror story is "In the mouth of maddness" (SPOILERS) one of my favorite stories to talk about because there is just so much to unpack. The very end John Trent goes into a theater and sits down to watch...the movie we just watched that shows everything that has happened to him throughout the movie. It is also spliced in a certen way where in the movie he is witching he screams "THIS IS NOT REALITY! NOT REALITY! this is reality." As the character who is a big skeptic has watched reality completely warp around him while watching a movie about his own disent into maddness.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
I have to ask... Do you read Sutter Cane?
@t.j.aarons889
@t.j.aarons889 Жыл бұрын
@@WriterBrandonMcNulty This brings me joy because this is the exact comment I expected.
@vodniczech
@vodniczech Жыл бұрын
My god, this movie is BANGER in the Lovecraftians movies
@petehealy9819
@petehealy9819 Жыл бұрын
Brandon, once again your insights are so on-point and concise it blows me away. Cosmic Horror is not even a sub-genre I like all that much, but now I understand and appreciate it a lot more thanks to your analysis and advice.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! Glad you found the video useful
@concettasorvillo3719
@concettasorvillo3719 Күн бұрын
One of the best is DW episode "Midnight". Never thought it could be considered cosmic horror, but it fits perfectly
@4TypeWriter
@4TypeWriter Жыл бұрын
your writing advice videos were really helpful for my writing! But one subject that I'm really interested in knowing more is ensemble casts, being casts with more than two protagonists.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Someone else requested a video on character chemistry, so I'll be covering this topic soon
@AntipaladinPedigri
@AntipaladinPedigri 7 ай бұрын
2. lovecraftian horror can end in a somewhat positive way where there the protags win against the entity, banish it, but it is clear that ii is only a temporary victory, and that at some point the horror will return. While horror is about returning the world to the status quo, cosmic horror is about the world being irredeemable, impossible to repair, broken in some fundamental way. Any solutions are bandaids on a bloody stump where once the arm was.
@pearlsforswine4261
@pearlsforswine4261 Жыл бұрын
Alien! The Thing is a close second, and I still think about Annihilation years after watching it.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Alien and The Thing are titans of the horror genre. Love them.
@thomassynths
@thomassynths Жыл бұрын
My favorite is Lovecraft's "The Festival". Quite short but really exemplifies his style.
@doom_punpun
@doom_punpun Жыл бұрын
Man I have been watching you quite some time you have helped me a lot .Thank you!
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it! Thanks for the kind words
@miguelthedrawtist
@miguelthedrawtist Жыл бұрын
_The Dunwich Horror_ is my favourite. It's the first Lovecraft story I read and was like "yeah, this really is kinda creepy" _At The Mountains of Madness_ is pretty cool too
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
What's your favorite Cosmic Horror story? Let us know!
@jacindaellison3363
@jacindaellison3363 Жыл бұрын
I have two: The Endless and Annihilation.
@brianedwards7142
@brianedwards7142 Жыл бұрын
Invasion of the Body Snatchers. I prefer the 1956 version but the ending is maybe too hopeful to qualify it as you have defined it.
@madmartigan21
@madmartigan21 Жыл бұрын
​@@brianedwards7142that version and the first remake in the seventies are both great. The 70's version has that ending he's talking about.
@RainisaurusRox
@RainisaurusRox Жыл бұрын
I just love The thing on the doorstep by Lovecraft. Would recommend to read a few of the other books first thou, knowing a little bit about the mythos, the different dimensions, times and stuff makes it even better. That stuff gets only hinted in this story. It focuses more on the characters and their situation. It just begins with the greatest hook I ever came across, in the very first paragraph. In my opinion, on of the best beginnings ever. " It is true that I have sent six bullets through the head of my best friend, and yet I hope to show by this statement that I am not his murderer."
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
I love both versions of Body Snatchers. The 50s version holds up remarkably well. I watched it for the first time in the 2010s and couldn't believe how gripping it was.
@R.L.Sutton
@R.L.Sutton Жыл бұрын
Great job. Thank you for unpacking the concept.
@eliben4066
@eliben4066 Жыл бұрын
I love your initials! Especially for this Halloween themed episode
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching
@Jedi3039
@Jedi3039 Жыл бұрын
A perfect topic for a story I'm currently writing. Really appreciate this breakdown, Brandon. Thanks! 🙌🙌
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@MalcolmMaynard-l2x
@MalcolmMaynard-l2x Жыл бұрын
My favourite cosmic horror story is the original Dunwich Horror by Lovecraft. An oldie, but it's a classic...
@dionmcgee5610
@dionmcgee5610 Жыл бұрын
ALL of Lovecraft's stories are oldies, if not all of them are classics. The Dream quest of Unknown Kadath is certainly an oldie and it should be a classic but it's still too obscure.
@The_Burning_Sensation
@The_Burning_Sensation Жыл бұрын
My favorite Cosmic Horror story is Roadside Picnic. Its not so strictly horror, but I feel like it captures the feeling of human irrelevance better than anything else I've read.
@horrortopia
@horrortopia Жыл бұрын
DISCLAIMER - UNSPONSORED 0:25 - 1. Spoilers 0:32 - 2. What is Cosmic Horror? 1:26 - 3.a. Key Elements of Cosmic Horror - Themes of Existential Dread and Human Insignificance 2:12 - 3.b. Key Elements of Cosmic Horror - Cosmic Horror Creatures/Entities 3:10 - 3.c.Key Elements of Cosmic Horror - Forbidden Knowledge and Cults 3:38 - 3.d.Key Elements of Cosmic Horror - Isolated Settings 4:02 - 3.e.Key Elements of Cosmic Horror - Psychological Breakdowns 4:46 - 4.a. Tips for Writing Cosmic Horror - Focus on Theme first and Monster Second 5:27 - 4.b. Tips for Writing Cosmic Horror - Avoid Happy/Positive Endings 5:46 - 4.c. Tips for Writing Cosmic Horror - Leave Unanswered Questions 6:01 - 4.d. Tips for Writing Cosmic Horror - Find Creative Ways to Describe the Indescribable 6:42 - 5. What's your Favorite Cosmic Story 6:48 - Support Mr. Brandon McNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Appreciate this--thanks!
@horrortopia
@horrortopia Жыл бұрын
no worries. I saw you didn't put any markers in this video.@@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@LordPhantom777
@LordPhantom777 Жыл бұрын
Your channel really touches on things no other channel will. Love it. I’d love to know how to write vampire fiction next
@orisinalification
@orisinalification 3 ай бұрын
Always on point and crystal clear. thank you
@MelchVagquest
@MelchVagquest Жыл бұрын
Annihilation is one of my more recent favorite movies that delves into the cosmic horror genre
@sackettsnodgrass9260
@sackettsnodgrass9260 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a longtime admirer of H.P. Lovecraft, and his work inspired me to write within the genre. I’m beginning to outline the plot of a book I’ve been putting off for years, done in epistolary form (which is similar to Lovecraft’s form) through the use of journal entries and letters.
@romainpapelier9457
@romainpapelier9457 Жыл бұрын
Event Horizon is a great cosmic horror movie in my opinion.
@TheZetaKai
@TheZetaKai Жыл бұрын
That tone of existential dread, insignificance, and ambiguity is absolutely essential to cosmic horror. You can have a powerful alien monster, heroes way out of their depth, an isolated setting, and a downer ending, but without that tone, you don't have cosmic horror. Imagine a story with those elements, but the monster's motives are well-explained, the heroes are able to challenge the threat, and the ending is hopeful.
@levizilla-rf1pm
@levizilla-rf1pm 4 ай бұрын
thanks, I´m writing a fantasy book that does have some more lighthearted usual fantasy worldbuilding but at the end there will be a huge reveal of cthulu ruling a giant incomprehensible place known as the dark side where theres huge storms everywhere and roars of unkown monsters from beneath the waves. this video really helped giving me some more inspiration on how to make this place and the creatures way more effective
@dai19721
@dai19721 Жыл бұрын
oh wow this was really helpful...thank you.. fav cosmic horror story is black mass.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@nitehood108
@nitehood108 5 ай бұрын
Really succinct and informative video! Thank you for making this. This is an excellent resource.
@brianedwards7142
@brianedwards7142 Жыл бұрын
I saw when this was posted but had to wait to watch this because I was watching Kurt on TV. It was Bone Tomahawk so I broke my own "don't watch on TV what you have on DVD" rule but it beats repeats of Would I Lie To You from 6 years ago.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Bone Tomahawk was great. Wouldn't mind seeing more horror western
@Barbaric_The_Bizzare
@Barbaric_The_Bizzare Жыл бұрын
You should make a video of how to write body horror
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Great idea! Adding it to my list
@dreademperor2094
@dreademperor2094 Жыл бұрын
This video was really helpful for me as I'm trying to make cosmic horror stories myself
@kasieream1248
@kasieream1248 Жыл бұрын
You should probably do one on the difference between science fiction , science fantasy and fantasy
@pyromancysfinest
@pyromancysfinest 7 ай бұрын
I really liked John Langan's The Fisherman, I think it toes the line between neutral and negative, where the protagonist survives, and humanity maybe doomed but its left as an unknown.
@TheBluenyt09
@TheBluenyt09 Жыл бұрын
Awzum. I'm writing a story along the lines of cosmic horror too. Thanks this helps a lot 😎👍
@freakkyser
@freakkyser Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, i very much appreciate the tips, im attempting to write a story about the moon and twisting, leaving this idea that it has a strangle hold on hummanity because we need it to survive My biggest hurdle is connecting character to story, and the isolation bit will help with it
@keith0363
@keith0363 8 ай бұрын
My favorite cosmic horror stories are my own. I love my writing. I’m a huge fan of the novel 14 by Peter Clines. Its sequels are quite good, too. My go-to Lovecraft works include f "The Colour Out of Space", "Shadow over Innsmouth" and "At the Mountains of Madness" and the vignette "Dagon". Movies include the 1959s'original THING FROM ANOTHER WORLD, THE MIST, EUROPA REPORT, the HPLHS version of "Call of Cthulhu". I also love IT by Stephen King and his short story "Crouch End", and the "John Dies at the End" series by Wong.
@lindanorris2455
@lindanorris2455 Ай бұрын
this is such a great video!
@ayyubi1235
@ayyubi1235 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the advice bro.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Any time!
@dibdap2373
@dibdap2373 Жыл бұрын
I loved the King in Yellow. It's a precursor to Lovecraft and contains more of the type of cosmic horror in the category of forbidden knowledge and cults. There a four short stories only connected by a strange play called the King in Yellow which seems to instill madness in whoever reads it.
@TheManBehindtheScreen
@TheManBehindtheScreen Жыл бұрын
My favorite cosmic horror story comes from a man who was a known friend of H. P. Lovecraft, but wasn't typically a cosmic horror writer: The Tower of the Elephant, by Robert E. Howard. Yes, my favorite cosmic horror story is a Conan adventure, and I'm not going to say why because I don't want to spoil it.
@brozy5720
@brozy5720 Жыл бұрын
Fav CH story for me would be the classic Night at the bare mountain by Lovecraft.
@marvelfanatic9535
@marvelfanatic9535 6 ай бұрын
Strangee Things is a good example of this!!
@CosmicFilms-007
@CosmicFilms-007 Ай бұрын
My favourite cosmic horror is dead space It explores guilt of Isaac Clarke and the size of the marker in the first and second game the marker is first big but about house size and then second game is much larger Showing guilt that built up It’s awesome stuff and the way the marker works and it being “dead space” is great As well as halo the flood I don’t know what the themes are for that it’s more on the covenant and war but the flood being extremely intelligent and take a step back (like in halo 3 mission the covenant) and teams up, only to betray right after once the halo array is deactivated therefore they can attack you because you did what it wanted, it’s great
@Androctonus84
@Androctonus84 Жыл бұрын
One of the most masterful examples in this genre that hits all the points perfectly is the original Twilight Zone episode “The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street”. It has it all perfectly couched in a 25 minute TV episode.
@homoduplex
@homoduplex Жыл бұрын
Honorable Mention: the movie "Event Horizon". Really ticks all the boxes. I would love to see some kind of director's cut made, but sadly, the material has been lost, so it won't happen. I feel the movie does a lot of things right and has great potential, but the released version lacks emotional punch somehow. Mabye it's the lack of a protagonist with motivations to relate to.
@marlenaryan6822
@marlenaryan6822 12 күн бұрын
my favorite cosmic horror story is hellstar remina by junji ito
@greg_nk
@greg_nk Жыл бұрын
My favorite has to be the Mist (the movie), mostly because of the ending.
@kanadpathak8426
@kanadpathak8426 11 ай бұрын
True Detective season 1 us 7:16 s probably the best recent cosmic horror story to the point that there is ambiguity in its genre itself
@Mporter1981
@Mporter1981 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this
@R.senals_Arsenal
@R.senals_Arsenal Жыл бұрын
A lot of interest in this since "No One Can Save You" just came out, which I quite enjoyed.
@LarryThePhotoGuy
@LarryThePhotoGuy Жыл бұрын
David Graham's Down to a Sunless Sea (1979) The monster is nuclear war's aftermath; it is the descent into violence and madness that is the theme.
@jjbjjb273
@jjbjjb273 Жыл бұрын
Very good I enjoy watching your videos
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@heruka369
@heruka369 11 ай бұрын
My favorite is At The Mountains of Madness by Lovecraft
@erinaltstadt4234
@erinaltstadt4234 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@lindanorris2455
@lindanorris2455 Ай бұрын
the hting (original) is just the best film!
@Antrod
@Antrod 7 ай бұрын
To answer the "question of the day" I have two. Underwater and Glorious. Underwater is about a group of scientists who are mining at the bottom of the Mariana Trench. Things go south, and the ending is insane! Glorious is about a man who encounters a being ina bathroom stall. The beingbis voiced by J.K. Simmons and couldnt be a better fit! Spoiling the two--dont read if you want to watch. Underwater did a fantastic job of showing thr big bad on screen. The writer confirmed it was Cthulu, but real fans will argue its not. Regardless, it was a good modern attempt at putting Cthulu on screen. In Glorious its revealed that the being is a son of an "Old One" and requires something of the human. Its a fantastic film, and JK kills the role! Anyway. Highly recommended the two, thank you for the video!
@anthonyquinn1808
@anthonyquinn1808 Жыл бұрын
it's an interesting genre type! can you do a video about self aware horror?
@briantrafford4871
@briantrafford4871 Жыл бұрын
Alien is my favourite. Yes the monster is "defeated" in the end, but we are left knowing that a far greater monster is still out there.
@Xobik1
@Xobik1 Жыл бұрын
I Brandon. One suggestion: writing stories with a lot of timelines. What to do and what not to do.
@roguetheoutlander8800
@roguetheoutlander8800 Жыл бұрын
Lucky me, like i just asked for it xd (literally i was thinking about something like that)
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Glad my timing was on point!
@MySerpentine
@MySerpentine 7 ай бұрын
I always wondered if they could've talked to the Thing if they tried. It fits the theme of paranoia if the fear was the real problem all along.
@tomhools1605
@tomhools1605 Жыл бұрын
I wish there was a horror space opera.
@HabkeineAngst
@HabkeineAngst Жыл бұрын
Must be interesting.
@Brdatsun
@Brdatsun Жыл бұрын
The Thing 1982 is my favorite by FAR ❤
@amaggixz
@amaggixz Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips, I really would love to write some short stories and experiment a bit :P I love the Hanging Balloons story from Junji Ito. Also, saw a Dr Who comment, so may as well mention Weeping Angels, love the idea behind them ^^ Edit: As for unexplained and creepy set up, Army of One, also from Ito, is a masterpiece in my opinion.
@DMKarinZeeland
@DMKarinZeeland Жыл бұрын
Somehow I can't add the video's to my playlists anymore. Which is a pity, being a cosmic horror writer/dungeon master this is a classic for the playlist.
@GrayOperative
@GrayOperative 21 күн бұрын
Can you please do a video on how to write dark scifi or grimdark scifi? (ie gothic scifi, warhammer 40k, etc)
@anaximander66
@anaximander66 Жыл бұрын
Shadow Overland Innsmouth and True Detective are truly great. Someone has got to mention the roleplaying games Call of Cthulhu and Delta Green. The Call of Cthulhu RPG by Sandy Peterson has played a role in keeping Lovecraft and cosmic horror alive in American culture.
@johngagon
@johngagon Жыл бұрын
One thing cosmic horror seems to have in common with traditional horror is the dwindling number of survivors/death and a sweet and innocent character that makes it close to or near the end. The monster possession seems to have a similar feel to zombie. I would almost count Hell Raiser, A Quiet Place and Candy Man as a close but different genre to Cosmic Horror. My question here is, what do these fall under/do they have names? Are there good anime examples out there since I think it's possible with a lot of them and they too also seem to fit a genre. I also tend to think of some other close seconds like the Blob or mindvat experiment type ideas played with in some Trek/Twilight Zone episodes. All these lean on the mindscrew shock or dream nightmare element outside of gore horror.
@KutWrite
@KutWrite Жыл бұрын
I think "Forbidden Planet" has aspects of cosmic horror, especially before we discover who the monster(s) is(are)... maybe even after.
@AlmostEthical
@AlmostEthical Жыл бұрын
I loved the cosmic horror shorts in the last season of Love, Death & Robots - Bad Travelling, Swarm and In Vaulted Halls Entombed. Now the writers have to think of something wild that doesn't involve an overpowering being which treats humans like ventriloquist dummies. Might the theme be about a dread of overwhelming societal and/or AI control?
@WeirdVideoGames
@WeirdVideoGames Жыл бұрын
Hmmm, does Cube count as Cosmic Horror?
@fragwagon
@fragwagon Жыл бұрын
I just realized my story may be cosmically horrible.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Haha I think we've all written a few of those
@SuspendedLogic
@SuspendedLogic Жыл бұрын
You should discuss everything the original Alien did right as a cosmic horror and then everything Alien Covenant did wrong to ruin the cosmic horror.
@LordBaktor
@LordBaktor Жыл бұрын
Covenant explained the origin of the Xenomorphs. There's no greater sin in cosmic horror.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Covenant was brutal to watch. It's The Last Jedi of the Alien franchise
@RainisaurusRox
@RainisaurusRox Жыл бұрын
What is alien covenant? 😅
@LordBaktor
@LordBaktor Жыл бұрын
@@RainisaurusRox Some fanfic written by a goat or something.
@SuspendedLogic
@SuspendedLogic Жыл бұрын
@@WriterBrandonMcNulty big time agree.
@cosmicprison9819
@cosmicprison9819 5 ай бұрын
All of these five themes work perfectly fine with the actual dangers of inanimate space (asteroids, solar storms, supernovae, gamma-ray bursts, black holes / quasars etc.). None of these are sentient. The Lovecraftian trope of eldritch tentacle monsters undermines the real-world applicability of these themes. The reality that space is largely uninhabited, precisely because it’s so deadly, is much scarier.
@premium_chicken_nuggy
@premium_chicken_nuggy Жыл бұрын
The movie, End Of Evangelion is a really good example of cosmic horror. It focuses on themes of free will and the slow decay of our desire to no longer exist. It sucks because you have to watch Neon Genesis Evangelion first, but trust me dude, it’s worth it.
@TheStalkeRuuuuuus1
@TheStalkeRuuuuuus1 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Neon Genesis Evangelion isn't that bad
@TheVeyZ
@TheVeyZ 8 ай бұрын
My favorite cosmic horror story is At The Mountains of Madness.
@haumea2097
@haumea2097 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if The Eternal Cylinder (video game) counts as cosmic horror. (Spoiler for the game below) It's hard to describe the game in detail due to it's dreamyness, but I'll try. I definietly recommend playing the game. Sorry for my bad English in advance. It deals with a cosmic entity, The Eternal Cylinder. A sentient mobile megastructure of unknown origin, which seeks destruction to end all difference within the universe, which in it's mind would end all suffering aswell. It rolls across inhabited planets and flattens them out like a steamroller, destroying all life in the process. Even though the game does make the player peek inside the Cylinder's mind a couple of times, there's still a lot of mistery surrounding it. The main characters are not human. They are sentient creatures called "Trebhum" (in both plural and singular). They are native to the planet the game takes place on. They look like earless bipedal elepjant spheres, but the game does point out that they are similar to humans in some ways. Specifically by not being the strongest, nor the fastest, nor having sharp teeth, but by being clever, resourceful, and very, very, stubborn. The Cylinder also has these so called "Servants", which are minions fabricated from remnants of things it absorbed on a previous world, which during the time the game takes place, was Earth. This results in the servants being horribly twisted steampunk-cyborg somethings. The chief servant, the Mathematician has an especially threathening presence As for the ending, it is happy, but it's also open-ended. It ends with the remnants of Human souls taking control of the Mathematician, re-absorbing it into the Cylinder, which creates an explosion which disables the Cylinder... For now. As it is implied that the Cylinder is unstoppable, and that it will one day re-awaken, and continue its destruction. The Trebhum might have won a battle, but they did not win the war. The main theme of the story is not really insignificance however. It's clear that it's more about the power of the diverse many over the encompassing one.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Haven't heard of this game till now. I'll have to keep it on my radar. Usually the first cosmic horror game people mention is Dead Space, which is another good one
@victorialadybug1
@victorialadybug1 5 ай бұрын
Alien will always be my favorite cosmic horror story.
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 Жыл бұрын
this maybe a really odd book take but I consider the Ghost of Christmas Past from a Christmas Carol to be an example of cosmic horror with its unusual appearance.
@Ayrond
@Ayrond Жыл бұрын
I definitely think that the guys over at Just Roll With It did an incredible job creating an audio-only cosmic horror with their patreon exclusive miniseries Blood In The Bayou. The story being showed woth the use of Call Of Cthulu (a TTRPG system made for cosmic horror) definitely makes the powerlessness easy to write, since you don't have to actually write much (in the system the player characters are weak and defenseless by design), but Charlie Slimecicle is still extremely good at creating a haunting image of the monsters with deceptively simple words. (Everyone who enjoys a good cosmic horror story set in an 80's small town should go and pledge 5 dollars to JRWI and have a listen to Blood In The Bayou, it's roughly 10 hours long in total but definitely worth tge money as an experience)
@PortugueseKeto
@PortugueseKeto Жыл бұрын
The Birds strikes me as cosmic horror, the only thing is that birds are eminently describable. But there’s the powerlessness, the uncertain ending, the inexplicability of the events, the isolation of bodega bay, and the dread of knowing humanity’s precarious relationship with nature can be tipped without warning
@ValeVin
@ValeVin Жыл бұрын
Annihilation by Jeff Vandermeer is my favorite by far. (I love the Southern Reach Trilogy, but even on its own, Annihilation is excellent. The movie is okay, too. It's good, it's just... weird to see a movie that includes zero of the best parts of the novel it claims to adapt.)
@Elia-fn8jv
@Elia-fn8jv Жыл бұрын
How would you call an horror that is terrifying but can be explained,banished or beaten?and what themes would that evoke?
@jtoland2333
@jtoland2333 11 ай бұрын
I was involved in a mutual relationship, and remained good friends with the guy. We are still good friends. We still hang out, I am also friends with his girlfriend, its all good. We did make the right decision. However.... I won't say it didn't hurt, because it always does. We had to face that whatever we imagined our story's ending would be would be different. And we needed time apart in order for our roles to be reshaped. The friendship we have now was worth the pain, but in no way was it easy.
@NartSadiku-ws4ow
@NartSadiku-ws4ow 9 ай бұрын
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