‘Wrong House’ FBI Raid Case WILL BE HEARD by the Supreme Court

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[@stevelehto]

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[@plinytheelderest]

Mr Lehto, for those of us who want to learn more about the law, could you link to the cases involved, including the Appellate Court decisions so that we may learn more, thanks!!!

[@toyota420xp]

I wish I knew what the FBI's excuse was because like you said I could see it's like you went to a building and you went to apartment 2 instead of 2a or something but when you get the wrong Street and the wrong house number that's unforgivable

[@JupiterCyclops-l5x]

Please name the judges who make these tyrannical rulings. Are you afraid or something?

[@Donnie-cj8tg]

​​@@JupiterCyclops-l5x He never tells us it's possible for government to act "under" color of law/authority yet still have sovereign immunity. Also we are never told how a government can be "under" bankruptcy receivership yet the Actor's still can have sovereign standing. Who do they actually swear an oath too?

[@PaulPupp]

Very surprised that you are UNAWARE of the fee shifting statute on vindication of constitutionally protected rights, as it is no different from the fee shifting statute on "lemon Law" cases that you do. The claim you can't get your lawyers fees covered in such a case is pure nonsense. Title 42 USC section 1988.

[@JeffreyHayat]

FBI had the discretionary authority to raid the wrong house. Isn't this something we kicked the British out for?

[@nensondubois]

Yes. Explicitly.

[@mattgayda2840]

We didn't just kick them out, the ones here never made it out alive and they finally stopped sending more of them

[@Navy_Vet12]

We rebelled over taxation without representation too. Politicians no longer represent us, only the 1%.

[@maurer3d]

No, our country booted them, over being taxed like crazy, yet not being allowed to have any representation.

[@jeffreymontgomery7516]

States aren't represented anymore since the 17th amendment was passed... The Senate was supposed to be represatatives of the separate states... That's how California wouldn't have gotten funding for that travesty of a high speed rail system that was supposed to be done what... 10 years ago? And still isn't? And we're STILL sending money there for it... from the other 49 states who have absolutely no foot in the game. The people are representated... as long as they agree with the politicians, of course. If you don't agree, but there aren't enough of you making a stink about things, they just don't care. And ever wonder how they get a job that pays a couple hundred thousand a year, and become a multimillionaire in 5 years? Most would call it "insider trading".... Except for those in government.

[@FnixGhod1]

The absolute worst part isn't even the utter stupidity of the agents, but that an ACTUAL judge said they are free to just break into random houses, NOT in the warrant!

[@skysurfer5cva]

I'm thinking that the judges must be mentally ill.

[@stephanreiken9912]

They need to remove the unconstitutional idea of Qualified Immunity that has no basis in law.

[@barryfleming8488]

In the end, you have unqualified impunity.

[@inouterspaceman]

Who's they....the Supreme Court, they invented it, why would "they" remove it. They also consider corporations people and $$$$ is free speech!!

[@billalberkerky7069]

I agree that unqualified immunity is a problem and needs to be MAJORLY overhauled, but it's super goofy to say it has no basis in law. I'm sorry bud, it does have a basis. It has a very strong, prevalent basis. This might surprise you but not EVERY facet of our legal system is EXPLICITLY written in the constitution.

[@jarvislarson6864]

Accountability should not be exempt for anyone.....incompetence cannot be dismissed no different than nazis following orders!

[@stephanreiken9912]

​@billalberkerky7069 not everything is written explicitly into the law, but many things are vaguely written into law. This is not vaguely written into the law, its just not written into law, so it is not a law.

[@jackhammer8563]

This case tells us that we are not in a free country.

[@robwiljas]

Never were. This is the land of freemasons, not the free.

[@burnout_2017]

We have never been in a free country, neither has our ancestors. It just sounds good, kinda like that whole be good or some invisible being will send you to eternal damnation thing they use to control the weak-minded masses

[@crlcan8121]

We never were as long as you were anything disliked by white straight Christian rulers who run the US the past 50 years or longer.

[@burnout_2017]

@crlcan8121 i think you meant TWO HUNDRED and 50 years or longer

[@Sapper203]

I'm sorry but all 3 judges on that appellate court need to be removed from the bench. They basically gave the FBI authority to raid any house they want so long they have a warrant for a house... that's no different than a general warrant.

[@MrTrixton]

ok but you cant sue the government unless the governmental allows it. qualified immunity is on top of that . also congress is supposed to oversee the fBI to prevent this. don't make courts steal power from congress

[@JimboSlice-t5i]

​@@MrTrixtonYeah that's the problem. Congress is just as corrupt as the fbi No not because the election before anybody turns this into a "orange man bad" Congress has no worked for "The People" for *decades* at this point. Also don't forget, the second amendment is specifically there to protect against tyranny.

[@tysonkrehnke2835]

​​​@@MrTrixtonI'm slightly confused by your argument. If the supreme Court rules that yes you can sue a government who accidentally executes a warrant at an incorrect house, then that executive branch still has the ability to train the dept however they want. It just sets a minimum standard for training. The gov could further train their dept however they want. And moreover the dept gov could still train its employees however it likes... They would just have to pay civil claims when they improperly execute warrants.

[@LDuncanKelly]

​@@MrTrixton "don't make the courts steal power from Congress" which is exactly what the appeals court was doing - Congress has excluded from sovereign immunity wrongful actions that cause harm thereby granting permission to sue the government in cases like this...

[@eddiescott8355]

That’s a lie you most definitely can sue the government….if state violates your rights you can with a civil rights 1983….. against the federal government a federal torts claim suit …….. if they break federal laws and the us constitution they lose immunity. The courts are just criminals and try not to follow law

[@bobswanson8464]

So, what they are SAYING is..."The Constitution DOES NOT APPLY to the Federal PART of the Gov"??? THAT IS CRAZY.

[@WolfRaven-jm1cm]

When the government says the constitution no longer applies to them is when they have usurped power from the people. While the best solution is a diplomatic one, often, diplomacy is only afforded to those with an army of equal or greater power.

[@user-js4iw9rz2w]

I mean, it effectively doesn't, now that stupid people handed control of the federal government to Republicans.

[@crlcan8121]

Because of the 'suggestions' that should be law.

[@WolfRaven-jm1cm]

@@bobswanson8464 funny how all the comments continue to get deleted

[@Kyzrath]

@@WolfRaven-jm1cm They're not getting deleted.

[@robertchristner4510]

End qualified immunity. Also end civil asset forfeiture.

[@fakedemocracy]

Ok robot.

[@ace-kz9id]

@@fakedemocracy okay smooth brain

[@platinumuschannel]

@@fakedemocracy Former FLEO here, I agree to end QA and CAF. Thank you.

[@theyaden]

Civil asset forfeiture needs to be amended so it can no longer be used to steal a property at low ball offers and then sold to another person in order to get better ta revenue. As written I think claiming public good to be getting more money rather than needing it for roads is a stretch beyond what those laws said originally.

[@post-leftluddite]

Better yet, end drug prohibition....NOTHING is more responsible for the current state of American law enforcement than drug prohibition. 96% of all no-knock raids are drug related Drug arrests account for either a majority or a plurality of all arrests in every jurisdiction in America "Drug Enforcement" is the most cited justification for military equipment requests from local police departments to the Pentagon. America has the largest prison population in the world per capita and in total numbers, and experts consistently point to drug prohibition as the cause. Ending drug prohibition would be the single best way to take power and money from the police and the single best way to protect the 4th amendment. Since the 1960s, and with only 32 drug cases, the Supreme Court has managed to erode the 4th amendment more than with all other types of cases combined in the 20th century

[@kevinvaldez5163]

How on earth does a court come to the conclusion that agents have discretionary authority to raid any house other than the one on the warrant?!

[@johncameron2241]

Must have been smoking some good stuff that day.

[@mazepa71]

I wish Steve spent more time explaining this

[@kermitwilson]

Make me wonder what they would think if their houses were raided in the middle of the night and their families were terrorized at gunpoint, if they would think differently about that decision. These people seem to believe they are elite and the rest of us commoners have to suffer and comply with government militarized law enforcement behaving like 3rd world banana republic mercenary militants. Right or wrong, it really feels like these judges and politicians are far too insulated from the world the rest of us live in. These problems aren’t limited to the courts. Our elected politicians can fix these qualified immunity problems, and these “no-knock” warrants, and the responsibility of law enforcement when they screw up so horribly. When was the last time any of us heard politicians discussing these problems? They’re too busy manufacturing phony morality wars and dividing us, the people.

[@jfb7201]

I've got to wonder that same thing because the wording itself is just crazy. They didn't say if they mistakenly did it then they are covered. They said they have the discretion to do it meaning they get to consciously make a decision to purposely do it. As in the know what they are doing and know that they are at the wrong address but they get to decide that this is ok and the address on the warrant doesn't really matter cuz we want to search this house so we should be allowed to. That goes against every legal principle concerning warrants that's ever been decided by the courts up to this point where they've always said any warrant must describe the place or person to be searched specifically and what they are searching for specifically but this court is saying that once they have a warrant they can then decide using their discretion what other places or people it should apply to whether the court have them permission for those places or not. It's up to them to decide what they want it to mean but up to what the court told them they had permission for it to mean. It's like these judges decided to surrender their power to issue warrants to the FBI and say that once we give them one warrant they can decide when and where they want to use it whether that's what we told them it was for or not. So I guess by this logic they can just use one single warrant to search as many places as they want anyone they want right? Cuz couldn't they also use their discretion to decide when to use it if they can decide where to use it regardless of what it was issued for?

[@leeross7896]

I am losing faith in the average IQ of judges

[@calvinquallss4905]

Intelligence doesn’t have anything to do with it

[@chrismiller5198]

and of cops who can't read a warrant.

[@robr4662]

its intentional, they know exactly what they are doing

[@jarvislarson6864]

Absolute power corrupts and power corrupts absolutely.....united we stand,divided we fall means nothing along with our constitution if immunity from the consequences of your actions and or incompetence!

[@adamhixon]

I've lost faith in our whole country. We're coming up on 250 years, right? That was a good run.

[@KniFz]

The fact that "no knock" warrants are still happening should also be taken to the supreme court.

[@Jirodyne]

"Right to be SECURE in your home" Is not a constitutional right, according to SCOTUS.

[@richarddrapeau7599]

No.....but there need to be some things to qualify for a no knock raid. Like the official from Arkansas, the highest paid official in the state, you could probably talk to him at his office. Low chance of running..., cutting the power and storming in at like 5 in the morning not needed there. If he had been suspected of kidnapping/torturing/in the process of flying a drone with explosives.....then a no knock may be needed there.

[@KmanB2525]

@@richarddrapeau7599 I have no basis for this, but I'm guessing 99% or so of no knock raids are for drug bust or apprehending a suspect and less than 0.1% are in anyway justified.

[@kaboom4679]

They don't like it when a " no knock " happens to them , for sure .

[@richarddrapeau7599]

@@KmanB2525 I'd say good guess. But I don't know either. I do think there is a place for them, just a very limited one....

[@CytoplasmicGoo]

Why is this even a fight? A five year old can tell this is wrong. If you don’t hold people accountable for mistakes, then there is no reason for them to stop making mistakes.

[@MaxDoubt2]

Google maps could find the right house. Uber could find the right house. Amazon could find the right house. Pizza delivery could find the right house. Food delivery could find the right house. Cop??? Totally lost and confused.

[@ryanbeyer9078]

that's what happens when you hire people who are as ignorant as they are arrogant into law enforcement

[@DUIDave-s1k]

Yeah but the FVI has guns and immunity. There is no reason for them to be correct. Totally untouchable

[@PeenWienerstien]

Well all those other institutions have their bottom line impacted by their failure to do so. The only people financial impacted by police fuck ups are you and me the tax paying public!

[@CraigGrant-sh3in]

The FBI doesn't have the technology to find these things out. 🙄

[@kaboom4679]

In all honesty , Google Maps as well as others , have well known foibles ( bugs / features ) that are the subject of endless internet discussions . The wise traveller takes directions from any of them with a big grain of salt . IMO , the officer was negligent in using Google Maps , as his sole method of locating the target . This is based on YEARS of using Google Maps and others , and frequently being sent on " adventures " that rival Mr Toad and his wild ride . The instances have decreased over time , but , I still don't trust it to get me around my area , and I sure as HELL won't trust it explicitly anywhere else . One learns . So should law enforcement and rogue judges .

[@unclespy]

I am a retired Deputy Sheriff. This is a problem I've seen with the feds. Most local FBI offices may only have 2 or 3 local agents so when they want to conduct a raid they call in a roving group of "FBI SWAT teams". These teams aren't familiar with the local area, which often don't have standardized home numbering systems. These teams may have served a warrant in San Francisco one day and then be in Portland the next. I attended a briefing many years ago, while the briefing agent was making his presentation I attempted to point out some problems with his neighborhood diagram. Next thing I know I was asked to leave the briefing as I was not needed. Oh well.

[@NoelArmourson]

Arrogance and corruption are inextricably linked.

[@chrisbudesa9441]

I have WAZE on my phone. Directions are flawless

[@user-js4iw9rz2w]

lol. You're so clueless. The problem isn't unfamiliarity with the area. Plenty of people door dash while visiting unfamiliar cities. It's really not that hard to get an address right. The problem is that LEOs, including you, rarely face meaningful punishment for negligence or even deliberate crimes so they have no incentive to make sure they get it right.

[@DorifutoRabbit]

It's worrying that a federal agent with so much power isn't held to the standard of "can read a house number and compare it with the one on a piece of paper"

[@davidkuehne476]

federal agents are quite literally absolutely immune, there is no standard, whatsoever. They are the law, and above the law.

[@kiralana324]

It's far more worrying that these people are not held to the standard of "can read..."", forget compare/contrast they clearly just stopped by the courts picked a price if paper up and picked a house at random (or maybe not)

[@onewayturtles]

DoorDash drivers are held to higher standards.

[@2ndchance431]

@Dori...could be DEI hiring. Maybe the agents couldn't read?

[@barnabusdoyle4930]

The judge that ruled that the FBI is allowed to raid the wrong house without consequences needs to be disbarred and put in jail. He is a clear danger to society.

[@hideousmorbideous9249]

@barnabusdoyle From impunity to immunity, actually, the same as proposed, will be insufficient punishment for this high crime, whereas, such "acts", once committed, within any contextually irrefutable fact are to be competently defined as treasonous "Capital" offences, of which these being incontrovertible against the Peace, Dignity, Integrity and General Well Being of "Our" supposed Constitutionally guaranteed Republican Form of Government, also, to include "WeThe People" as intrinsic partaker beneficiaries thereof (as in like "ha ha ha" don't try hold your breath until this at one time especially unique particular comes around again to somehow displace this no less equally (again) supposed "democracy") - nevertheless, pursuant to true justice these such acts are indeed, without exception, rightfully deserving swift and permanent forfeiture of whichever said offenders life function . . . .*.*.*,

[@paulmiller7396]

It’s amazing that the government will fight so hard against reasonably compensating honest citizens for the uncontested harm the government caused them.

[@StoicThrower]

But then they'll feed, house, and hand out free credit cards to known felons.

[@patriciaraymond7839]

They don't want to open that door.

[@KmanB2525]

Just as hard as they fight to keep the property they steal in the process. I would like to see the FBI shut down.

[@johnthompson7548]

I’m so glad I have never served this country. In fact, no one should. If there’s military wants it’s cannon fodder, force rich kids to sign up

[@markbonner1139]

Your statement/comment + but will payout 10s,100s,thousands, even more $$ in suits filed against municipalities/PDs.

[@byronlentz4825]

I wonder how the judges would react if it was their home raided?

[@manbunmyname5866]

If Americans still had balls that's what the government would be afraid of. George Washington spelled it out for us. "The people must remain ever vigilant against tyrants masquerading as public servants." Which is what we have here today.

[@wayneamerican1708]

The incompetence of law enforcement in this country is unfathomable. The fact that they still call themselves The Good Guys shows you how mentally unfit most of them are

[@Al-Rudigor]

That's because the voters kept voting for the so-called "law and order" candidates. Why did y'all vote for this? All for fear of the "others". The cops were just supposed to keep the freedmen in line, right? Oh well.

[@YoungGirlz8463]

The judges might be worse.

[@davidhough1382]

As a former fed and professor, the 54 words that make up the most litigated amendment (4th) should be updated each week of the SCt. term! Read the law, or if you have a doubt, ask somebody for god's sake, it's 2025.

[@mattgayda2840]

Have you seen the one in Kentucky last month? 7 cops with a warrant over a stolen weed wacker at 1145pm at the wrong home and killed the homeowner. The weed wacker was stolen from the property of a judge

[@wvguy7238]

The fact they run around with blue line garbage on their persons is basically throwing up gang signs.

[@Obamaistoast2012]

Absolutely zero legitimate excuses for raiding the wrong house, pure incompetence for that to happen.

[@ericdebord]

Break into the wrong house. GO TO JAIL . No excuses.

[@chrisbudesa9441]

FIRED

[@chrisjohnson2460]

Their "discretion" is in violation of the Fourth Amendment.

[@OneFingerYT]

Perhaps they can explain the thought process behind their "discretion" in court.

[@Cody_Handsome]

Well the current president is trying to ignore the 14th amendment with an executive order. Getting rid of something as significant as the 4th would be a windfall for the administrations goals.

[@Eidolon1andOnly]

@Cody_Handsome How exactly is the current president trying to ignore the 14th amendment through executive order. Please explain.

[@JHartModelworks]

​@Eidolon1andOnly be told them they couldn't use their "approved bigotry" programs to automatically disqualify "approved targets" from jobs based on "DEI standards". So now they need to throw a fit every time they comment, even when it has nothing to do with President Cheeto.

[@Cody_Handsome]

@@Eidolon1andOnly The Fourteenth Amendment, ratified in 1868, was one of three Reconstruction Amendments that significantly changed American society, politics, and government. It granted citizenship to all people born or naturalized in the United States, including formerly enslaved people. It also extended the Bill of Rights to the states, guaranteeing citizens "equal protection under the laws”

[@maharai23]

An agent of the government cannot have authority from the government to take actions barred to the government. The government cannot grant authority to raid a house absent a warrant for that house, as such a raid violates the Constitution. No government agent has the authority to violate the constitution.

[@DarthSautiorn]

Constitutional rights shouldn't cost the victims.

[@johnjoseph7382]

The audacity for the government to think they are not liable is insane.

[@mysterymayhem7020]

The homeowner was extremely lucky he didn't get shot when reaching for the firearm to protect his family from the break in. It could have been so much worse.

[@calvinquallss4905]

This does happen with no knock warrants

[@GilmerJohn]

In some ways this is suspicious. I suspect the FBI knew they were in the "wrong" place and decided to back down from their usual killer approach.

[@shadowninja6689]

@@calvinquallss4905 yep. I've heard of a case in Texas where the police raided the wrong house in the middle of the night, so the home owner grabbed a gun and shot and killed one of the officers before they were disarmed and arrested. The police tried to have the home owner charged with murder, but a grand jury refused to even indict him.

[@cylonred8902]

A recent NOVA program (maybe Frontline) told the story of a family where they were raided - a knock raid. They waited for the guy to open the outside door, and grabbed him. When all said and done and they were at the wrong house - one of the "cops" looked over and saw the shotgun next to the door. He told the homeowner - that it was a good thing he didn't answer the door with the shotgun in his hands.

[@SuprousOxide]

And the fbi would still insist they did nothing wrong

[@christopherhumphrey]

I've ordered thousands of pizza's in my lifespan and NOT ONE went to the wrong house. The FBI and local law enforcement can't even do what the pizza places have been doing for decades.

[@deadbeats4894]

There's absolutely no excuse. Gov want us to fear the police state not fight it.

[@thomasmathews7421]

They had a search warrant for a specific address. Going to the wrong address is not only negligent but also violates the 4th amendment against wrongful search and seizure. Hopefully, the supreme court is going to come down hard on the FBI for this gross misconduct of justice.

[@Cody_Handsome]

I doubt it, it will be to the benefit of the current administration if there is less and less accountability.

[@angelachouinard4581]

@@Cody_Handsome Or any administration honestly. From a deputy in a rural county up to the FBI they've all been doing it through several administrations and all the courts let slide or make it easier.

[@JimboSlice-t5i]

​@@Cody_HandsomeDo you mean like forcing social media companies to silence dissenters? Oh oh or maybe arresting political opponents? Oh maybe you're talking about intentionally tanking the entire economy and importing 10,000,000 people to replace the current population in an effort to install a dictatorship?

[@Cody_Handsome]

@@angelachouinard4581 If the current Admin is going to seek a third term and continue to push aside amendments, having the 4th amendment weakened by the conservative supreme court would be a windfall for them.

[@TheWorldsprayer]

@@Cody_Handsome you realize that the supreme court has repeatedly hammered this last 2 years various executive agencies for violations of the APA (american procedures act) which basically says they've acted outside their authority as defined by congress? Now we get an administration ACTIVELY interested in reducing the executive bearuocracy, we have a supreme court regularly restricting back those same agencies...and you say you doubt it? ok...

[@randallcarpenter5313]

How many houses do they get to bust into until they get the right one. Sounds like the cops can get a warrant and settle some grudges at the same time.

[@ItsJesse89]

This is what happens when the Supreme Court creates law in the name of "Qualified Immunity". Our founders would not agree with this type of two sided justice system.

[@conscientiousobserver8772]

It's even worse. The FBI's immunity doesn't have the "Qualified" qualifier. It's carte blanche.

[@robr4662]

The founding fathers would be rolling in their graves if they could see what was happening.

[@sunshine3914]

@@robr4662 No doubt they’ve been rolling of late.

[@andrewosborne8993]

This is the sort of behaviour that might get the founding fathers loading muskets.

[@ltdowney]

Raiding a home with an “incorrect” warrant should be functionally equivalent to raiding a home with no warrant. Those scenarios should be legally equivalent. The whole purpose of laws and the justice system is to protect innocent people, and in this case it did the exact opposite. Someone could have died. The plaintiffs are victims of a breakdown in the system and deserve to be made whole.

[@NorthPrairiePatriot]

WTF is wrong with these appeal courts. By their logic here if they get any warrant, they can go kick in every door on the street or why stop there, kick in every door in the town until we get to the right one

[@Prinygod]

and seize all cash they find because it might be intended to be used in a crime.

[@christopherwhite1648]

The judges are mostly Statist/Corporatist/ protectors of the government.

[@spidalack]

Do they even have to be in the right town? The right state? I mean you have Springfield everywhere, how was the officer supposed to know it was the one in this state, not that state? Read the warrant????

[@bartsanders1553]

​@@Prinygod At least state legistlatures are starting to drill down on this. More and more states are limiting the scope of forfeiture. That's not to say the federal government has done anything to curb abuse.

[@UndertakerU2ber]

The judges don’t care because they’re not the ones that have to deal with the consequences.

[@franzbuhlmann1099]

We The People never gave them that authority!

[@dougbotimer8005]

Are you a law enforcement agency? Do you want to raid a house and can’t get a warrant? Not a problem, get a warrant for any place, and anything. Serve it where you want and for whatever you want. The courts will quash any suits for an unlawful search.

[@garywacaser6230]

My thoughts exactly. Nothing to stop them but being faster to defend themselves upon breaking in!

[@markbonner1139]

NA,NA,NA. FEDS ONLY!! They ARE BETTER than REGULAR law enFORCEment!!

[@gbear1005]

This.

[@steveladner4346]

They're rubbing our noses in it.

[@soulknight89]

FBI has authority to raid the wrong house? Wtf! 😅 Judges need to go.

[@thssportingcenter1]

Holly hell. Someone needs to be held responsible for gross incompetence

[@ericmc6482]

Everybody else gets to pay for their 'mistakes'.

[@iangolightly604]

It is becoming evident to more and more people, that law enforcement and judges are lacking integrity and a moral compass. The scary part is that they don't care about all the criticism, as they have become untouchable.

[@hectorbart]

Judges just rubber-stamping warrant requests is also a problem.

[@Jirodyne]

If a Warrant is found to be illegal, and was signed by a Judge, that Judge should IMMEDIATELY be investigated, and depending on why the Warrant is illegal, "A clearly illegal warrant on it's own, vs the officers lying to the judge." If the Warrent itself is illegal, the Judge should be Disbarred, Arrest, and Jailed for 10 years, and never allowed to work in any Government job ever again for life.

[@nicholasmiddleton398]

One of the reasons I'm no longer in law enforcement. The system is flawed. Prosecutors sleeping with defense attorneys and judges taking kick backs from probation. America has fallen. Big gov reigns. Your freedoms are gone. Here comes the AI state.

[@MichaelKurse]

Just so people know, 95% of warrants in Chicago are defective, served on the wrong house, person already in prison, no drugs, guns, or wanted persons found because no investigation is done, just the word of an informant who picks out a random address.🤔🤔🤔😡

[@williamflckle2694]

I like that I also would like to believe that if the officer lied to obtain the warrant should be removed from being able to hold any office and government and go to jail for 10 years as well

[@dodgeguyz]

We as Americans should be outraged and angry that they won’t even take care of a problem they created (by accident on top of it). This is where the constitution comes into play!

[@real82it]

Absolutely wrong and should never be allowed. At a minimum restitution should be provided.

[@davidh9638]

With punitive damages paid personally by whoever made the error.

[@bartsanders1553]

6 hours in jail on a wrongful arrest can net you six figures, destroying your home just costs you six figures.

[@orppranator5230]

@@bartsanders1553Or, it might just get you fired and you get nothing, because you’d have to sue the government successfully to get it.

[@bartsanders1553]

@@orppranator5230 Yeah, nobody ever sues the government.

[@platty9237]

They’ve become way too careless because they face no repercussions.

[@HariSeldon913]

And even if they win, the taxpayers will pick up the tab. The authorities should be required to carry malpractice insurance which pays for things like this. If you're deemed an unacceptable risk by all of the insurance companies, you don't work - also solves the problem of the bad ones just moving to the next department.

[@baronvonslambert]

They do, it's almost always legal liability insurance companies paying out for these suits, at least for local and state authorities, might be different at the federal level. In any case, the taxpayer would still foot the bill from increased premiums at the end of the day.

[@rolanddeschain965]

You cannot allow the govt "discretionary authority" to get a warrant then just raid random houses. Those appellate judges need to go.

[@hermenutic]

How is this NOT a fourth amendment violation? Does this not count as a search? This is a pretty important case.

[@EnthalpyAndEntropy]

It IS a 4th amendment violation. The only way the family is getting justice is with second amendment solutions unfortunately.

[@hermenutic]

@EnthalpyAndEntropy It's more than unfortunate it's diabolical in today's context.

[@chrisforker7487]

Because they aren’t a party to the constitution!

[@HappilyHomicidalHooligan]

It is a Violation of the 4th Amendment (Unwarranted Search & Seizure) as well as the 12th Amendment (Due Process) for trying to block their seeking Justice for their actions...

[@cynthia7445]

Now, more than ever, it is necessary for our government agencies to be held accountable for their actions. American citizens should not have to suffer any indignity that violates their constitutional rights.

[@bigdaddyccm1217]

We need to hold law enforcement to a higher standard not a lower one.

[@theresanull6680]

Yes like must have the reading level of a second grader

[@gillgetter3004]

I had a door company at one time and was called by a local police department. They had broke door and jamb on wrong house. They paid us to install new door and jamb, and locks and even deadbolts on other doors. A painter came after me to do the painting etc.. They were very apologetic to the owners and some heads rolled in the department. This was early eighties.

[@thephoenix9303]

Think of how traumatized that 7 year old is due to this negligent act.

[@Robbie_robot]

At least he learned early not to trust law enforcement.

[@UndertakerU2ber]

What’s the point of SCOTUS setting precedent if the lower courts can ignore it in future cases and SCOTUS will let them do whatever they want?

[@haydenczerwonky6000]

So they didn’t have a warrant…..

[@mikehughes8023]

They did but it was for a different address in proximity to where they were.

[@haydenczerwonky6000]

@ right, if they have a warrant for person A at person A’s house then they DO NOT have a warrant to enter person Bs house. Unless the argument is as long as there is some search warrant for some building and place some where , then no, they did not have a search warrant

[@williamlloyd3769]

Under the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution a warrant is broadly required, which particularly describes the place to be searched, and the persons, or things, to be seized; no warrants may be issued without probable cause, and support by testimony before a judge.

[@alleny2971]

If you enter 645 2nd street but your warrant says 123 Main Street, my opinion is that you do not actually have a warrant. I do not care what a judge says, this is BASIC COMMON SENSE. A judge who rules otherwise is corrupt and needs to be removed.

[@FraterMerovius]

If sovereign immunity and qualified immunity are a thing, what is the purpose of the Constitution and the Bill or Rights? If the government can claim immunity for any infraction, and infringement, any violation of the citizen's rights, do we even have rights at all? This insanity has to stop. There should be zero tolerance for police incompetence. Law enforcement should be held to much higher standards of accountability than would an ordinary citizen. With great power comes great responsibility.

[@PeaceIntheValley]

London Kentucky man killed in his own house on December 23 from police officers serving a warrant at a wrong address outside their jurisdiction.

[@Rkbmomma]

Sounds like they MAY not have actually had a warrant.

[@JimboSlice-t5i]

​@@RkbmommaIf they're not at the right location for the warrant, they didn't have a warrant. That's like saying my house key gives me access to everybody's house because I have a house key.

[@Fuse_146]

Not only was it the wrong address, the intended target was already in jail!

[@ProjectNaturePrds]

@@Fuse_146 yeah, but you know, they REALLY needed that weedeater. (F’s sake)

[@DKNguyen3.1415]

@@Fuse_146 Was this the weedwhacker incidnet?

[@thssportingcenter1]

Hello good people of KZbin. I am going to donate to The Institute for Justice and fight for decency! Will YOU unite to fight for justice.

[@NoelArmourson]

Please do.

[@stephanreiken9912]

Why would the warrant for another property even matter in the facts of the case. The warrant doesn't apply to this property so they had no legal authority to enter. Such evidence and any testimony related to it should be thrown out as irrelevant

[@thehellyousay]

the competence of the judges that have ruled in favour of the government in these cases of utterly egregious abuse of QA and legal authority, has to be questioned and investigated thoroughly, even criminally.

[@Dr.MikeGranato]

It literally doesn’t matter what the law says when the bill of rights explicitly says no unreasonable search and seizure. ANY judge who grants immunity needs to be sanctioned. This is a per se violation

[@dallasd8907]

This is even worse than Steve pointed out. The appellate ruling is legally incompetent. The Supremacy Clause of the constitution is not implicated in any aspect of this case. The Supreme Court MUST overturn this ruling AND implement some form of discipline for this gross incompetence.

[@ericmc6482]

Cop school 101 :,Day One - Reading and comprehension.....

[@Bobs-Wrigles5555]

Day Zero- Learning to Read... Or a note from your mum.

[@equallawandorder5393]

DEI FBI thee letter agencies 🤡

[@phlodel]

Pay close attention. Main Street is different from Second Street.

[@Rkbmomma]

Map reading 101 & phone GPS unreliability

[@SayWhatinAz]

Nah, it's color in the lines!

[@BubbaFranks-TheSwordDragon]

We MUST reestablish Rule of Law in this country. We cannot let these people openly mock the rule of law with rulings like this. How can an appellate court make such an egregiously incorrect ruling? Simple. They do not /want/ Rule of Law. There are many words for what it is these people want, none of which should be tolerated in the country. As it stands right now, This is not a country with Rule of Law. This is an incredibly dangerous situation to be in.

[@aots66]

These sorts of rulings essentially lay the groundwork for any Federal agent to go into anyone's home whenever they choose to, warrant or not. Also the judge is clearly overlooking that the agents didn't want to swat that particular house, so it wasn't even "at their discretion" in the first place. It wasn't a choice to do so, because they wanted to raid a different home entirely. That removes the concept that it was a choice being made at their discretion completely. The judge doesn't even understand simple logic, that's so sad.

[@arinerm1331]

The 11th Circuit basically negated the entire Federal Tort Claims Act in their abjectly idiotic ruling in this case. What the actual eff?

[@billkaldem5099]

Which states are in the 11th circuit?

[@arinerm1331]

@@billkaldem5099 I know it includes FL, AL, and GA, but not TN. It may extend to SC, or SC may be in the 4th. I'd have to search out a map.

[@billkaldem5099]

@ thank you.

[@kirkmorrison6131]

Qualified Immunity should never have been a thing, no legal nor Constitutional bases

[@JohnCarter-z3x]

Unfortunately, qualified immunity allows tyrants to act tyrannically.

[@kirkmorrison6131]

@JohnCarter-z3x Very True

[@chrisbudesa9441]

QI was created by judges

[@admthrawnuru]

​@@chrisbudesa9441yes which is why the "well the legislature could fix it" argument is so annoying. The legislature did address it, they said explicitly that anyone violating rights under color of the law is liable but the courts made bs up. If the legistlature addresses, what prevents that from happening again?

[@fredericrike5974]

Slave catching, which "qualified immunity" is progeny of, wasn't a good thing either. But it let catchers cross into non slave states to search for and locate runaway slaves and return them to their servitude.

[@tadonplane8265]

I've experienced police officers going to the wrong house twice in my life. Once when my dog was stollen right off my front yard, the state trooper we called went to the wrong house. When I waved to him to come to my house he got completely pissed off, accused me of lying about where I lived and continued to interrogate me while the thieves drove right by with my dog! We live half way down a long dead end road. My stepdaughter got caught up in the opioid crisis in middle school which led to heroine addiction and a crime wave as a young adult. She was serving hard time in a nearby state for armed robbery when four state trooper detectives from our state went to the wrong house looking for her. That house isn't lived in. So they came through our back yard and pounded on our back door scaring my poor wife half to death. I was at work. They ID'd her and she told them that her daughter was in prison. She said they got furious, accused her of lying and threatened to arrest her for harboring a fugitive. When she shouted out the name of the women's prison and her daughter's inmate number they got real quiet and then left.

[@ryanlukens9280]

If law-enforcement has the discretion to raid any house, regardless of the address on their warrant, then what would be the point of a warrant in the first place? That’s like saying everyone is special, which means no one is special.

[@scottymagillacutty]

It’s sad that this isn’t a slam dunk. It’s an obvious win but the government just hopes you go away quietly.

[@edcctf]

If the government faces no consequences for mistakes like this they have no real incentive to do their due diligence and make absolutely sure they are in the right place.

[@MM-qm7og]

the FBI has the resources to e sure they have the correct property. This is not part of sovereign immunity. The "Sovereign" is not absolved from neglect.

[@phlodel]

Apparently, the FBI doesn't have any literate agents.

[@Jirodyne]

sovereign immunity is not granted by the Constitution, thus is it is an illegal concept, and has no power to override the constitution.

[@sharonbarker3408]

It has occurred to me, when I hear about these patently unconstitutional rulings, that the FBI could be investigating appeals judges for the purpose of keeping the judges in their pockets. There's really no other good explanation for these incredibly stupid rulings.

[@reesfullmer1194]

Thank you IJ for standing up for the constitution! Also love Southside Johnny!

[@valarianne2284]

Southside Johnny is awesome!

[@Goob_V10]

Vote in your local elections! Those judges are absolutely shameful!

[@gailwatson4927]

Glad the case will be heard by the Supreme Court.

[@jacobbergen3586]

I did pest control for a few years and occasionally we would have instructions to go into a home where the homeowner wasn't there to treat. I quadruple checked to make sure that I was at the right house at the right time and had the right permission before I ever entered.

[@theresanull6680]

You’re too smart to work for the FBI

[@nicknitro4420]

Mistakes like this one cost most people their job.

[@SchemingGoldberg]

Normal people would get prison time for a "mistake" like this.

[@ajknaup3530]

Mistakes like this land most people in prison.

[@Farmergirl7]

And some innocent people their lives.

[@MikeAccurate]

Woken from sleep with a blast, seeing men rushing into my bedroom, screaming something the victim can’t understand after the blast and raising a weapon due to being in fear for one’s live would result in the death penalty without cause.

[@jess_o]

The judiciary remains a complete joke

[@gta4everrr]

Most of government remains a complete joke.

[@doco187]

The family has yet to be reimbursed for the damages done during raid. Local news interviewed them and IIRC the repairs totaled more than 5k. There has been ZERO responsibility taken.

[@mroctober16]

Happily donate monthly to the Institute for Justice!

[@jonesyokc]

Some of these judges are either completely incompetent or completely corrupt. Neither deserves a place on the bench. Discretion to raid the wrong house. That is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. I'm leaning towards corrupt on that ruling.

[@parkerottoackley6325]

Why get a warrant, at all ??😮

[@90762709]

Qualified immunity has gone way too far and it is out of control! It has to be stopped now!

[@axepagode33626]

How did the FBI Agents get discretionary authority to raid the wrong house? I doubt seriously that authority is written in law anywhere. I doubt congress passed a bill that says you don't need a warrant to raid a house. All you need is your own discretion or gut feeling that you should be raid the house at 123 Main Street, Anywhere, USA.

[@NoelArmourson]

We may as well bring back Writs of Assistance.

[@SmilingBicycle-pc4et]

Let's test this and see how far we can take it, the citizens just aren't pissed enough yet.

[@lordjaraxxus3864]

Imagine if the guy actually drew his weapon to defend his child. This raid was wrong on so many levels and could have ended way worse.

[@jeraldbottcher1588]

That has happened before with tragic results. If I remember correctly the law enforcement agency claimed QI.

[@LMacNeill]

I'm sorry -- what?! The appellate court said that "FBI agents have discretionary authority to raid the wrong house?!!" Did they just say that FBI agents can IGNORE the fourth amendment?!!! Are you **JOKING?!!** The Supreme Court had **BETTER** rule on this!!!

[@billkaldem5099]

Pretty much.

[@Michman2024]

I'm donating to the Institute for Justice. You should too.

[@LivingOnCash]

This would be like arresting a guy named "Bill Jones" when they have a warrant for a guy named "John Smith".

[@opforwarrior]

"whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government"

[@davidgrossman7965]

Forget about civil. They should be prosecuted. This was criminal

[@FnRenner]

Gotta love when the police, local or federal, are legally inclined to be sloppy in their work products.

[@tsl7881]

Judge, we need a warrant for this block.

[@warrenSPQRXxl]

Wrong house, wrong vehicle, misidentified suspect, etc., these things happen way too often sometimes with fatal consequences owing to poor training, poor leadership, and immunity to consequences.

[@spidalack]

The level of stupidity in this case is incredible. From how wrong they got the address to the twisted convoluted justification from the judge to not hold them accountable.

[@azdesertnews7563]

Shameful just Shameful behavior. It is time to clean and flush this toilet once and forever.

[@barelyasurvivor1257]

Again this is why I have joined and paid/donated to the IJ monthly for a year or more now. They are needed more now than ever. TY for the intro you did that got me to join.

[@tarrantwolf]

If there are no consequences for mistakes then you have little imperative to make sure mistakes don't happen. For such negligence not only should the agency be required to make restitution but the agent that made the mistake should also be held personally, financially, liable as well. Only when there are real consequences will they start making sure they don't make a mistake.

[@billiesheads212]

I watched this story on Uncivil Law's channel. The houses were 500 feet apart. That's quite a distance. It's totally ridiculous what the police officers did AND what these judges did. People die when warrants are served at the wrong place..