WOLF WARRIOR 11+ VS DUALTRON THUNDER - Performance/Feature Comparison! (both slow after Rion...)

[@Doctronix702]

One thing I noticed is the Dualtron has street tires and the Wolf has Off-Road tires. That in itself would make major differences across the board.

[@rogerwilkie8555]

Absolutely it does and the wolf has the option to buy street tires separately for $35 each.

[@jamesthornton642]

I was gonna write the same thing till I read this I have road tyres on my wolf and accelerate as fast a thunder

[@arseniesirghi7553]

@@jamesthornton642 that’s a lie my thunder with off-road tyres pisses on wolfs like there’s no tomorrow, imagine what I do with road tyres

[@jamesthornton642]

@@arseniesirghi7553 yeah I did drag races with my wolf vs my friends thunder and he beat me every time. I have a modified wolf now which even a beats a nami

[@arseniesirghi7553]

@@jamesthornton642 exactly dualtrons are just made different

[@SuperGiantGeckosLLC]

Just ordered a Thunder today

[@metaljew4456]

I ordered a WOLF WARRIOR 11+ Yesterday from Fluid Free Rides. Delivery is supposed to be in the 1st week of June. To say I’m pumped would be an understatement. My 1st scooter ever was a ZERO 9 from Rev Rides. It’s a quality piece. Nice looking, cool LED lights 360° all around but she is only 600 watts so acceleration is tepid. Top end is said to be 28mph but IMO my 170lb frame can really only make her go about 25MPH. Now that’s not bad for a $1K scooter but I was really looking for something substantially quicker. FFR seems to be another company like Rev Rides that really cares about its customers and I hear the service is fantastic. Hopefully I won’t need them to much for service but it’s always nice to know that you are not on your own if something goes wrong. Now that the warm weather is on its way I can’t wait to hit the trails on the WW11+.

[@rogerwilkie8555]

Any updates?

[@crotalus_4203]

I had a tough time choosing between the two, ultimately I went with the Thunder. It's been a blast to ride around town. Great review. One of the best PEV channels onKZbin!! Keep it up dude.

[@Busterpeek21]

I just ordered the WW 11 with street tires! I'm so excited and I just can't hide it..

[@callofdutymobile6259]

Tell us after use couple days,how it's feeling to drive and safe and more important things for your opinion

[@bahkeru645]

I think if you have a road tires for the wolf warrior it would have a better performance

[@lanceguilin]

I chose the Thunder because of your review videos. Originally I was ready to buy a WW11+ because it's $1000USD less than the Thunder but after seeing your video comparing the 3 scooters and the WW11+ not able to make up a steep incline while the Thunder and Zero 11x was able to, then I decided on the Thunder. Also you showed that only on 60% of battery, the Thunder was able to accelerate faster than WW11+ with 100% battery. That was enough proof to me that the Thunder is the real deal! Now I have own the Thunder for a week. It's been great except for the very stiff suspension. I need to break in the suspension or I will need to change to softer cart later.

[@andrewapostol4554]

Lower your arms 1 level. That will soften rubber suspension quicker. Everything has improved. Steering, handling, suspension softened after 40-50km of hard riding. Standard setup is great, but Dualtrons are made to be modified, so get your wallet out and take your beast to town.

[@rockefelleragent1357]

Thank you for the awesome review comparison

[@mr_wrongway]

Thanks ^^

[@rockefelleragent1357]

@@mr_wrongway You're welcome :-)

[@BlackBirdFPV]

Good review man thanks

[@rageburst]

You need to add steering damper to feel safer on the Dualtron. Otherwise you have to ensure your weight be more on the front to be able to handle wobbles.

[@Camrographer]

Things which come to mind regarding the geometry and design of current high performance scooters. Since one is in an upright position putting the breaks on won't really arrest one's inertia one will simply go over the handle bars at those speeds. Now if there was some kind of foot brace to counteract that breaking force then it would make sense. My second concern is stability under high speeds. These higher performance scooters are essentially light motor vehicles yet they don't have all the stability that goes a long with "real" motor vehicles like sit down scooters. They need to go larger on the wheels to make them safer. Lastly, I question whether a a single steering column is sufficient for reliability and stability purposes. The foldability of the steering column seems to me like a potential point of failure either by user error, natural loosening of bolts or fatigue. Only time will tell. To conclude, I think the rake of the fork needs to be increased to provide better high speed stability and the front and rear of the board should have an upward slope to allow for bracing. As you mentioned the Dualtron does not come with what I would call essential safety features. Those should not be addons. Imagine going to purchase a car and seatbelts, horn and power breaks were an addon. There really needs to be standardization and regulation to make sure people get a product which performs safely. There are risks with many sports and activities but there are also best practices and due diligence to be accounted for.

[@AaronHodges-l9q]

I couldn’t agree with you more about the wheel size I think it’s ridiculous to run around at high speeds with a little 11 inch wheel how hard would it be to put at least a 16 inch wheel and some different engineering to keep the deck height at the current location

[@iansmith1776]

Looks like your in Warsaw on the way to the Vistula river.

[@mi5veezee]

I ordered Apollo ghost last month still haven't got shipping/Tracking email yet. Im giving them to the 1st of may and when i wake up if i dont see a shipping order and tracking Im canceling it and ordering WW 11. There in stock and be to my house in 10 days from the day of order at Voro Motors.

[@kicknight]

Wolf wolf wolf 🐺🔥🙌

[@JonasGrumby]

Dualtron is $1000 more. That's a big deal.

[@andredrayton5668]

True!

[@alanhold2468]

At the moment I have got a M4 pro 2020 edition. But definitely thinking about a WW

[@rottimusprime9560]

Great detailed review as always. I always liked the thunder. Mostly because of the lighting. I usually ride late at night or early in the morning. So being seen is a priority. Then comes range and speed.

[@djmaxxsaint]

It’s a difficult choice!

[@ElectricGang-eformss]

Dope video 🔥

[@djnavi850]

The controllers are allegedly the same on the Wolf 11+ version (This one with the Ey3 Dispaly)

[@oldgorillascooterclub2597]

Aliexpress is cool if I save $ but I could get it from Kreo the USA dealer for cheaper and have a warranty that doesn't make me ship overseas. I really want to have a warranty that I can get service if I have any problems. This video is great I am deciding which scooter to buy and when spending ~3k don't want to make a regrettable decision. I think I will go with the Wolf Warrior it seems great and safe with the dual steering column. I don't need to fold it up so Wolf seems good. Now I need to decide on off-road or street tires.

[@CaliforniaRussianRiverBees]

Off Road 🚧😎

[@kylanwalker9055]

I have the wolf it’s great

[@JuanGomez-jt1uu]

Very good video!

[@softwareengineer9435]

I will go for the wolf because better value plus I have a feeling if not for the off-road tire, might have done as good.

[@shifty277]

If I purchased the wolf the tyres would come off straight away before i've even ridden a mile, the off road tread pattern is just too aggressive imo for primarily tarmac use. What are your thoughts? Do Wolf offer a alternative tyre option officially? If not get some amazon affiliate links for road Wolf Warrior Tyres like slicks too bring in a potential purchase! Thanks, great video.

[@mr_wrongway]

Thanks for the comment! Yes there are road tires you can see them in the video against the zero 11x. I think indeed they are offered by kaabo. Similar to thunder tires but a bit narrower. Rides really well then :)

[@shifty277]

@@mr_wrongway Thanks for the quick reply, I will definitely check that out by Kaabo. Currently debating on whether or not to buy a Widewheel Pro! Just worried about warranty/spares due to it be mainly US focused and me being in the UK. Thanks for all the effort you put into the content, I can only imagine the man hours into riding/filming angles and different parts of a review and editing! Thumbs up.

[@mr_wrongway]

@@shifty277 😉 I would not recommend a widewheel tho...imo solid tires are have very poor riding characteristics. Scooters are very 'rattly' and harsh and in rain they are very slippery. Suspensions helps but only for bigger bumps. In this price range i'd rather get the speedway mini pro (solid tire just in rear and good suspension, but still a bit stiff) or other scooters with 10 inch tires. Sure thing! I appreciate it!

[@Kamikazekman]

Great Vid. Love your work mate. It'll be interesting to see the Wolf Warrior with street tyres as opposed to mud tires. It'll have better take off speed and hill climb (on cement) with more rubber on the road. More rubber contact on the Thunder with street tyres will of course have better acceleration. Keep up the excellent work mate. Looking to get the Mantis Pro so looking forward to your thoughts on that version!

[@poppys33d]

I agree. I think the Wolf might have made it up with more contact on the tires. The Dualtron has street tires on...

[@marcinpiotrowski373]

On Wolf Warrior 11+ I had 3.7s to 50 km/h. I'm sure You can get much better time (on Thunder too).

[@mr_wrongway]

Yeah on dry for sure and maybe a bit warmer as well

[@BOOSTEDLASER]

​@@mr_wrongway Save me some time and money please. If you could have one..would it be a 2000-4000w ebike or scooter? Also what exact model Dont care about looks, just quality. I am 270 lbs.Dont care about top speed just for the sake of top speed. 35+ is fine. Would like tires that are less likely to go flat on me.Would like sine wave if possible. Wont ever do offroad or silly jumps and such. SEMPER FI GUNNY

[@chrisvantassel8867]

as of today there is over a $1,000 diff between these two. Which one is more refined?

[@cruizelanemcmillan309]

Hey What's your Weight?

[@AaronHodges-l9q]

The research I have done between the two scooters Indicates they have the exact same motors same battery same controller The only difference is the weight or am I wrong?

[@manilapremiummusic]

Hey man! Awesome review. Quick question, what type of goggles are you using? I want to use my glasses under my goggles. Thanks!

[@florianguerin643]

Hello boy i have one question . What is the name of the application you use for the starts stopped with time between speeds and distances? thank you very much

[@callofdutymobile6259]

Hello boy?!🤣 Disrespectful

[@Mr.D.Michael]

Sold my Wolf King GT Pro and my Kaabo Mantis Pro to get a Thunder 2 and have some extra cash.

[@Genkuro]

*I wouldn't mind having either one. BUT, if aesthetics would be the sole criterion, I'd go for Wolf Warrior 11+.*

[@yco67]

why they make fast scooters more higher? lower center of gravity is much more important for fast scooters..

[@JonasGrumby]

I can't believe when you go to buy a Dualtron there are no adds like for a seat or other options. I don't even know if either of these can have a seat.

[@Passport-Bro]

I’ve seen and rode the wolf. Too large for me. It has to be somewhat portable, and fit into the trunk of my midsize sedan. I can’t find a trunk test for the dualtron thunder anywhere. And for the cost of this scooter, and the power it has, the fact that it has no rear foot rest is mine boggling. Anyone with experience in this department?

[@Mr.D.Michael]

Absolutely True. I sold My Wolf Kaabo GT Pro. Just too big. Totally Agreed

[@MJ-id1hz]

Hej ! Super kanal i super reviews. Ja wlansie kupiłam Kaabo Wolf Warrior X Plus Electric Scooter i jestem ciekawa jak odblokować to cudo aby uzyskać pełna moc. Powiedziano mi ze muszę rozłączyć szare kable aby uzyskać maksymalna prędkość. Mógłby potwierdzić ?

[@badboytommy187]

Very good footage and video review . Hopefully you could do a review On dualtron ultra 2 ? 👍🛴

[@Kentuckymadness1]

Hey You? I want to buy the Out storm Maxx Pro. What are your thoughts. Ruski Sounding Guy?

[@technologytv7230]

Thunder ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️🌟

[@samier09]

The folding mechanism on the wolf doesn't look well thought out. the Thunder on the other hand is very easy to fold. imo the design on the Thunder look's cleaner, more streamlined. very good video 👍🏻

[@valeropixels]

Can you do a review of the speedway 5 ? I'm thinking of buying it

[@mr_wrongway]

Yup why not :) i plan to put it against zero10x and skywalkee 10s+

[@Norbmix]

Czemu aż taka różnica jest między pomiarem prędkości z manetki a GPS, czy tak jest w każdym wypadku ? Jeżeli z GPS-u pomiar jest prawidłowy, to dlaczego manetka przekłamuje aż o 10 km. , to celowe działanie ?

[@Reddevil3258-Q]

Very informative review bro. Could you review the Matis GT / Mantis pro?

[@0225885200258]

Hey great vídeos. One question. If u had a chance to choose between Zero11x or dualtron/kaabo.. ? tnx

[@mr_wrongway]

Dualtron X all the way :)

[@0225885200258]

@@mr_wrongway Except that dualtron x ofc :p budget its not that high xD

[@0225885200258]

between zero 11x and dualtron thunder, kaabo wolf 11... and btw. are the macury 11x and unicool td11 and tech x9 all the same thing ?

[@revistatrivia4536]

I love the Wolf!!!

[@PerfectHolidaysKaszuby]

Dlaczego mój wilk jedzie tylko 25/h a na displayu mam ustawione wszystko wg wskazówek.please help me.

[@mr_wrongway]

Na YT sa filmy o odblokowywaniu Wilka pewnie. Po pierwsze spraedz czy nie jest wcisniety przycisk eco a po drugie mozesz miec osobny przewod ograniczajacy vmax. Podobno latwo go odblokowac ale nie wiem dokladnoe jak

[@PerfectHolidaysKaszuby]

@@mr_wrongway eco nie jest włączone na bank.boję się trochę rozkręcać platformę,ale to zrobię po obejrzeniu filmiku max.speed dualtron thunder.gość odłącza 2 kabelki i jazda.mam nadzieje że to jest to.dam znać bo nie ma polskich filmików.dzięki.

[@PerfectHolidaysKaszuby]

Dualtron thunder top speed

[@avellinklater3566]

How do you rank these in relation to the x9 in terms of performance etc....

[@mr_wrongway]

The X9 is a lot quicker. Especially than the Wolf. The X9 is ergonomically very good but poor in terms of portability. I hope that helps

[@SebastianPappG]

What electric scooters you actually OWN? I thought thunder is yours

[@IIISentorIII]

Gotrax GXL Commuter V2 $250 Beaufort wind force 1 no problem for this *Beast*

[@eryksarosiek372]

Kiedy będzie jakiś CyklonEbike?

[@mr_wrongway]

Ten albo nasteony tydzien :)

[@mordsvenson]

Dobry film :) Tego potrzeba

[@mr_wrongway]

Dzięki ;) chociaz juz chyba lekki przesyt ww11 i dualtrona thundera/X :D

[@onedronestory9714]

Znowu hulajnoga... :( Proszę zrób test SurRon vs Cyklonebike będzie Max wyświetleń.

[@maciejburchardt7927]

Zdecydowanie. Popieram. To by było ciekawe zestawienie nowego Sur Ron LB X 2020 vs Viper V2 Monster + lub Monster Extreme vs Kuberg Freerider lub Street.

[@ElectricGang-eformss]

On instagram ?

[@TechnoArtilleryWSR]

Thunder ❤️

[@kirondas3647]

Thunder

[@freebird1721]

3:12

[@yohvh]

Mainly build quality

[@MrPoliarinis]

Thunder all the way.

[@Antonio-ku4up]

Thunder

[@UrAvgRasian]

Dualtron not dualtrin, on not in

[@АндрейЯ-л3у]

Hello! How many electric scooters do you have? Give one, there will be something to go to work! 😀

[@metasense7032]

Imagine living in france buy a dualtron and they pass a law that limits max speed of escooters to 25km/h

[@rupertb2097]

Lol

[@dannan8853]

Ey wrong way im give you thousand for thunder

[@jesusisoursavior2682]

i hope dualteon is 500 usd like xiaomi

[@davesantos9473]

thunder thunder

[@RAP-kw6mp]

⚡⚡⚡❤☺️

[@ElectricGang-eformss]

Are you

[@isaacstabler6092]

I checked, and yes, he is indeed

[@mr_wrongway]

I confirm. I am

[@SkyRocket159]

compftebo

[@robertshepherd1179]

Which 1 would u recommend and how much are they both in the U.K please