Inside the Extreme Plan to Refreeze the Arctic | WSJ Future of Everything

[@wsj]

The first heat wave of the year is baking the West: on.wsj.com/45vsisN

[@iGame3D]

12 straight months of the hottest temperatures ever recorded on Earth just completed the first year of the end

[@pkwithmeplease]

actually its not.

[@pkwithmeplease]

also remember when you guys were freaking out last year about the water levels at lake mead??? yeah hows that working now? idiots dont udnerstand nature

[@Stupidityindex]

Refreezing is pure propaganda, the heat-sink for the planet is outer-space, & the public does not know this.

[@andypoppey5243]

So, let me get this right, y'all are soooo worried about CO2 levels, yet y'all are driving snowmobiles all over the Arctic??? Uhhhhhh

[@Mridul.scentman]

People who are criticising this effort should know that For every big project, small trial run is needed to see if they are going on a right track. They just can’t pour billions of dollars and indulge in this huge process without experimenting.

[@deeziebaby]

They sure can. You have no idea the amount of money wasted on pseudoscience. Go back and look up FDR's warning

[@michaelsnater2345]

Sure they could.

[@goldnutter412]

Yeah this is cool

[@TheSubieFan]

All human interference in nature has failed this will fail to even if it works.

[@byurBUDdy]

I criticize the effort because it is a solution for a problem that doesn't exist.

[@apotatoninja]

Every once in a while when it gets too hot we just drop a giant ice cube in the ocean

[@Moimp4]

Thank you handsome politician for your cheap last minute way to combat global warming

[@howardj602]

That use to happen every winter. When I moved to my location 50 years ago. The ground use to freeze up to 3 feet deep. Now the snow that falls melts, the ground is not frozen and we have puddles all winter.

[@chawenhalo0089]

​@@Moimp4 You actually believe that we can "re-ice" the poles?! It's just a company making money with BS green agenda IMHO.

[@brownbrve]

Alls well until Haley’s comet runs out of ice

[@MarkMusil]

This is truly the best comment

[@souravjaiswal-jr4bj]

Yesterday my grandpa (age 85) said that summer has gotten worst both in absolute temp and humidity in Kolkata in last 10 years. He has not knowledge of science or climate change, pure observation.

[@phoenix5054]

My old dad said the same thing. He still denies climate change. Sometimes, it's the eldest who are more impervious to common sense.

[@BrokeBillionare]

El nino. We are due to have 3-4 of hot years. It will cool after that.

[@gsuekbdhsidbdhd]

​@@BrokeBillionarethis development was before el nino so how is that an explanation?

[@budawang77]

@@BrokeBillionare The temperature trend is up despite some annual variations. The trend is everything.

[@hidennseek1483]

When I see old pictures of me when I was a child and how much snow used to fall in my town compared to the last 20 years it is just so obvious that something is wrong

[@YoungPineTree]

Didn't know Jürgen Klopp already found a new job.

[@ismailnyeyusof3520]

New job and new name, nice.

[@svetoslavvergiev2841]

Soon we are going to see Salah and Mane drilling holes in the ice

[@Fokendran]

Who's Klopp? Can he stop ice melting? If not, he's not important

[@bradstokes7061]

Haaaaaaaa The Normal One.

[@craigpardy6204]

And nationality, he's now from holland.. Dutch, not Deutsche.

[@hansudowolfrahm4856]

Me opening my fridge 24/7 to cool down earth: I'm doing my part

[@jakeroper1096]

Starting the movement ✊🏾

[@thebluespirit2006]

I think doing that* would make the fridge use more power leading to more CO2 emissions. Unless you're place is powered by renewable energy. NOTE! And yeah. I understand in a basic way how a fridge works. You guys. My POINT was. To note potential wasted unefficent power loss it would have doing something in a way it wasn't intended to be used. And therefore using more power. And therefore leading to more emissions than needed. IF the power comes from unrewnable sources.

[@carlrodalegrado4104]

Me turning on my old and new Air-conditioners with CFCs and HFCs 24/7 to also cool down earth: I'm doing my part!

[@jonathanjon3387]

thermodynamics says otherwise 🤣

[@jojojotype5563]

@@thebluespirit2006your fridge produces more heat than „cold air“ so even if it ran on 100% clean energy, it would still increase temperatures

[@hasonmorris4968]

It’s going to be costly but the alternative is worse thank you to those trying to help

[@wind-leader_jp]

For a long time, I imagined what would happen if salt made from seawater was sprinkled over Antarctica. When salt comes into contact with the snow on the surface, its melting point drops, so it turns into water, but if the surrounding area were colder, I wonder if it would freeze like a flat mirror. I had no idea of spraying seawater directly, but I hope it will be successful.

[@santhosh4567]

At -20°C temperature sea water just behaves like fresh water in turning surrounding areas to ice.

[@patrick247two]

Exactly the type of plan that the Wall Street Journal would support.

[@stevedemoe1359]

Hippy street journal

[@Dead.garden]

Me just make a nuclear plant off shore and a big building ment to evaporate water collect the salt and the fresh water 20% ship to people to drink and sell 100% of the salt the other 80% fresh water run it through warmed up pipes that spray a mist onto the ice but have it high enough and low enough temperature it doesn't freeze the pipes but freezes before it hits the ground. So basically ice snow or snow but more tear drop shap lol 😂. But yes pipes in the sky or 15 feet off the ground spraying water to make more ice. Just don't spray over water I hear that melts it 😂😂😂😂😂.

[@maxheadrom3088]

7:53 Really? Harder challenges than restoring the Arctic? Who did they worked for? Space aliens?

[@social.2184]

I think they are talking from an engineering point of view. Rocket engineering, biomedical engineering, and civil engineering have lots of more complex engineering and math going on in their project as compared to restoring ice in the artic

[@janinesnyder8250]

Yes😂

[@statwizard]

The alternative of doing nothing is unacceptable. I applaud 👏 the effort and hope that it works. And honestly everyone else should too. IMHO.

[@GTAWildestPolicechases]

Stupid. When man solves one problem he inadvertently creates more problems.

[@zettaiengineer4202]

summary: the heat in liquid seawater that is nominally insulated by sea ice is surfaced so that it can be radiated into space, resulting in ice(heat) that would otherwise not be formed(be rejected to space). essentially an ice machine(heat pump) with a condenser that uses the of coldness of space and the atmospheric window.

[@vejovim]

If we just generate ice in ice cube factories powered by coal, we can ship it up there and, eventually, there'll be enough ice that the Arctic will cool back down.

[@snakeeyes9246]

The issue with that statement is the usage of coal.

[@180_S]

​@@snakeeyes9246that's the joke...

[@JA238979]

Yeah, they said in the video that the pumps are powered by diesel. This channel is usually good, but this video was foolish.

[@Letmeusethis999]

We could give tax relief to families that donate their freezer space to ice creation.

[@HungerSTR1KE]

Thank you for calling out this complete irony! I'm like - this isn't sustainable, either.... The sustainability of this is zero. She even said it - well we use diesel to pump water to make ice and the burning diesel is contributing to the melting.... And "green hydrogen" is not what it sounds like.

[@tinto278]

The problem is Russia and China want to open up the sea routes in the artic.

[@nurex9029]

Why is that a problem I thought Russia alone controls 55% of the Arctic, no?

[@Jack-rp6zy]

​@@nurex9029because that means they have a vested interest in keeping the arctic ice free and will likely impede efforts to save the ice

[@pianobench6319]

It's not opening up in the winter.

[@phil20_20]

China is so close to it too!

[@AnnoyingMoose]

@@nurex9029 Half of the arctic is in Canada.

[@MirceaKitsune]

Impressive, but I have a method that's far more realistic by comparison: Throw a bottle of water in the freezer for an hour, put it in your pocket, board the fastest plane to Antarctica, get on a bus to a city close to the target, after that take a snowmobile to the glacier, then spill the bottle on the ground... simply return to your continent and repeat the process. If enough people do it then it's bound to work, because human ingenuity has no limits and will always save the day somehow!

[@argentum530]

... You forgot the /s but I like how you think

[@sirensynapse5603]

This!

[@cvk4488]

GOd, if exists will put a limit to us

[@Unlucky13ification]

This is nice, a video on a solution to climate change instead of the abundance of videos I see showing extreme weather and the damage it caused. I'll look for more stuff like this.

[@thomaskent9818]

I’m sick of hearing scientists blaming co2 for global warming, tell the people what they need to hear methane is the real problem But it’s refreshing to see some people are actually trying to solve the problem

[@xforce3648]

Unfortunately, this may help, but it's merely addressing a symptom of the problem. If we actually want to prevent the Earth from warming at alarming levels, we must reduce the amount of CO2 emissions that we emit into the atmosphere.

[@snakeeyes9246]

While simultaneously removing CO2 among other greenhouse gases (most prominent would be methane, CH4) from the atmosphere.

[@dehout]

And doing this at the same time. Better than being absolutist, it’s best if many people focus on cutting CO2 emissions, CO2 capture and then a few work on the symptoms in the meanwhile, no? Why would they stop what they’re doing? It’s not that black and white.

[@jamesgreig5168]

Utter rubbish. The assumption that CO2 is causing any significant warming is faulty. Historicsl evidence of CO2 levels and temperature clearly proved that CO2 rises AFTER temperature increases. This idea is brilliant.

[@Jc-ms5vv]

@@jamesgreig5168😂😂😂

[@wilbertwallace6655]

I think methane is not long lasting.

[@6torthor]

Svalbard is not as cold as you’d expect, the Gulf Stream reaches all the way up to the archipelago and gets trapped there causing the place to experience global warming x4 faster on avg than the rest of the Earth. On one of my last summers there a few years back, I remember a day hitting 20°C, could literally see the evaporation in the air from the permafrost on a bright sunny day with no ground fog While the work that they’re doing is great (UNIS is a fantastic school to go to for arctic research and friluftsliv), it only mitigates the effects of global warming, not the cause. It’s not a permanent solution, and only a bandaid to a gouging wound As Dr. Stroeve says at 7:29, investing in more carbon capture methods, reducing energy reliance on fossil fuels, planning for a sustainable future for those after us… For the common person, all of this starts with your daily consumer choices that affect the problematic conglomerates, your use of energy, how engaged you are with your local and national politicians to choose who we put in power that can make those big changes, etc. These things matter and will make a difference. More people simply need to be engaged

[@charlesd4923]

Nuclear Micro-reactors would be a great energy source for these projects

[@RicardoVanHouten]

And where is the Nuclear waste go to?, until thorium reactors are in service we are just giving the problem back to the next generation

[@charlesd4923]

@@RicardoVanHouten there are various designs for nuclear waste disposal that are very viable. The United States was going to have the first one in the world at Yucca Mountain however political issues stopped it after billions had been spent. Nuclear waste is really not the issue with Nuclear energy. The main issues are time to build, and the large upfront costs.

[@crhu319]

That's stupid.

[@charlesd4923]

@@crhu319 Noted

[@khiariyoussef3226]

@@charlesd4923 unbelievable how the US gov stopped investing in this project to fund wars in other countries lol

[@funkbeatz5303]

Thank you for doing this ❤

[@solidorsharp3091]

I’m working on this also (ALP) my project is Antarctica Legacy Project. Refreezing solves multiple problems. Stops and reverse sea level rise, potentially restores ocean temperatures, and also restores wildlife, maritime habitats. This scientifically attainable and sustainable, eco friendly. New technologies and architecture. See you there. Thank you all for your support of my project and other working on these climate solutions. The sun is expanding and this will have a long term benefit. But we still need to move away from fossil fuels.

[@roxieearly9484]

I hear the theme song from the movie The Titanic........

[@amirsadeghi9888]

not your Alpine bias wanting to reduce earth's temperature. Must be a euro/white thing.

[@ryuuguu01]

7:19. the Arctic is currently warming faster than the rest of the planet. So regionally cooling the Arctic would likely not cause weather problems but more likely reduce them. There still could be lots of other problems. The ice made by pumping water over ice will have a higher salinity than naturally formed ice, because naturally formed ice has lower salinity than the seawater it freezes from.

[@AndreaDoesYoga]

Mind-blowing solution, let's refreeze the Arctic! ❄️

[@Sawyer186]

Except it is and you're just being foolish and sarcastic

[@phil20_20]

🤌🤏 It's a snap!

[@badbad-cat]

​@@Sawyer186 nope. you're just swallowing US propaganda to refrigerate the Arctic as the natural opening of the Northern Sea Route will help Russia and Asia to grow away from the clutches Western hegemony

[@Shef-rz1dh]

❤love and prayers for this project❤my soul prays for the Arctic❤

[@nickname3471]

Prayers will fix it😂😂😂😂. BUT... Obviously SOMEONES prayin HARDER than you...😅 ... to a better god...😂😂

[@MISTERLeSkid]

A team of people thickening a couple of football fields that they just drive-up on their skidoos from land? How many millions of people will need to drill and flood the millions of football fields of ice in the arctic, which is thousands of miles from any land? It's a lovely theory but in no way practically feasible.

[@SamWilkinsonn]

it’s like throwing a cup of water on a forest fire lol

[@glennleatherwood4552]

They've been "cloud seeding" since the Vietnam war. It seems like that would be more effective (if that's possible for snow)

[@SamWilkinsonn]

Why is the KZbin comments sections obsessed with cloud seeding? I’m assuming it’s mostly bots to shed doubt on climate change, and the rest are idiots that believe the bots

[@samuelbell626]

In their defense, the stated goal was to test the feasibility of how well the idea will scale, and it sounded like they were also trying to test for unintended consequences, like changing the profile of the ice core with the warm water being put on top. If the test does work, the idea does seem simple enough to scale. Drill lots of holes in the ice and pump water on top. Scaled up they could generate the power next to the pump with solar or wind.

[@SamWilkinsonn]

@@samuelbell626 I mean it was worth a shot. If I had to guess on the percentage of success to make it scalable id have guessed

[@bobbyrobert397]

Great work guys !! Good thinking !! Keep thinking we need something bigger !!! But this is a great start !! Although the scale your working on is nothing !! Must think bigger , larger !!

[@somaghosh2960]

Good idea. But Arctic Circle is now new Geopolitical hub.

[@The38alt]

No it isn't. Live in Nunavut and there is barely anything in Nunavut because it's the arctic. It might only be a Norway thing.

[@vsznry]

@@The38alt Johnny Harris has somerhing to say about that... lolol. youre wrong. Its the new frontier for territory & war. Its whats under your ice.

[@artman12]

⁠@@The38altThat’s because Nunavut is often ignored by the Canadian federal government who doesn’t even have enough subs to patrol the Arctic.

[@MirceaKitsune]

Those ideas are anything but good: They're fabricated by people who live in cartoons and project based on cartoon physics, zero understanding of scale / effort / sustainability.

[@meteorknight999]

​@@artman12its only nato trying to harass russia there making military bases in artic norway

[@robertellingtom2683]

I admired your ingenuity

[@siar1462]

Wow, is literally along the lines of what was depicted in an matrix/matrix prequel where depicted reflecting the sunrise away from earth.

[@phil20_20]

"We don't know why they scortched the sky, but we do know it wasn't the machines." - Morpheus

[@robertmarmaduke186]

So you admit it's the sun, and not the CO2!

[@sheerluckholmes7720]

@@robertmarmaduke186 Suspicious Observers...🤔...🤫

[@ssokolow]

@@phil20_20 If that was intended to be the line from the 1999 movie, I'm pretty certain that it went more like "We don't know who struck first, but we know that we scorched the sky."

[@MedManSam]

@@robertmarmaduke186AHA it wasn’t the fire it was the wood. No more houses!

[@ViralReality.]

Crazy because it is the exact solition I wrote up decades ago as a teenager. To pump water atop of the ice.

[@vicwiseman6038]

😂😂😂 Yes, let’s run gas generators to pump water to the surface so that it can freeze.

[@jamesmungall6669]

They’ve been doing this in Ottawa for decades to make a skating rink on the entire Rideau canal but with warming winters it doesn’t work any more

[@suminshizzles6951]

Madness. Rather than addressing the actual problem which is us humans, they come up with ways to prolong the madness. Not one freaking politician has yet to mention that big elephant in the room, population growth.

[@Big-Government-Is-The-Problem]

almost every single 1st world country is below birth rate replacement... the population growth is happening in the 3rd world, which is also where most of the plastic in the oceans, the overfishing of the oceans, and many other forms of pollution is coming from. anyways, you've been fed a Malthusian lie that population growth and a warming planet will lead to human extinction. in geologic terms we are just coming out of an ice age into a phase of global warming, humans can do nothing to stop it. maybe we have sped up the process slightly, but the end result will be the same. you've been fear mongered into giving up your freedom and paying for a higher cost of living and taxes so some corporations that get massive government hand outs can get rich. played by the corporations again lol... a tale as old as time. "give up your freedom for security" classic lol

[@plankton50]

Most of the population growth we're seeing is in populations that use the smallest amount of carbon... so...

[@bobbyburtonphotography]

Who exactly can control the entire world and how each country does business?

[@Big-Government-Is-The-Problem]

@@bobbyburtonphotography nobody, but arrogant leftists ofc think they can control the climate and all of humanity

[@fazer79]

​@@plankton50 not true top three has India and China which are highly populated.

[@shuggab-lt4jg]

Love this keep up the good work boys we all need to play our part

[@lineinthesand663]

It costs more energy to make ice than to not.

[@davestagner]

Depends on how you’re making it and where the energy comes from. The methods here are fine.

[@Chris-rg6nm]

Sure but whats your point?

[@tonywilson4713]

Engineer here: Yeah I can't see how they can actually do this with out making things worse by consuming more energy. At least they admitted the irony of using diesel generators to run the experiment. Like all of the climate solutions its going to be a matter of how we power it more than anything else. Sadly right now (as an engineer) I don't see any initiatives that come close to being called a solution.

[@lineinthesand663]

@@tonywilson4713 Unrealistic solutions to imaginary problems. No surprises there. The western world is characterised by this nonsense nowadays.

[@lineinthesand663]

@@Chris-rg6nm Do I actually need to write it out?

[@drheidisevestre]

I was lucky to meet this super welcoming and dynamic team in Svalbard. But we really need to ask ourselves about the pollution this will generate, where will the energy come from, how to mitigate the noise pollution from the pumps, how quickly this can be scaled and how will they manage the drift of the ice. The scaling of these solutions is the real challenge. As it was clearly stated in this great video, the best way to save sea ice is to decarbonise; let's make sure we don't use geoengineering start ups to do our dirty work and let private individuals and companies continue with business as usual.

[@teresamexico309]

Starting from the beginning: decarbonise.

[@OhWell0]

There is another company, Real Ice, they have a strong emphasis on using green hydrogen in their drones, that's hydrogen made with solar and wind. I agree, the biggest challenge is scaling it. I'm considering a large donation.

[@chrissmith4444]

Lets refreeze the artic. *Drives gas powered snowmobile

[@keiththomas8705]

*Pours micro beads on the ice*

[@burtan2000]

Petrol has a shitload of energy in a small volume. They need the data to Calibrate the process. But like carbon capture it's only one aspect 😊

[@randyfandango5033]

Lets refreeze the arctic. *Constantly exhales C02

[@crhu319]

Literally all vehicles in Antarctic are EVs.

[@chrissmith4444]

@@crhu319 How is that possible if batteries perform worst in cold weather?

[@TimeGateMoments]

Well done - good video.

[@LenaBowmanrgn]

very useful video! Thank you

[@omoba3000]

They are literally wasting their time. lol

[@JerryRigEverything]

Pretty cool!

[@josephpiskac2781]

We should invest in extreme weather proof habitation and agriculture.

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

GMO - done.

[@ElectricNed]

Lol good luck, weather trumps engineering every time in the long run.

[@Vatsyayana87]

At a certain point it can spiral into a feedback loop like venus. There is no living on that planet.

[@josephpiskac2781]

@Vatsyayana87 have you seen the pancake dome structures on the Vemus terrain? Also at altitude Venus is much like Earth. The inhabitants of Venus may have built the Pancake Domes as conditions changed. Venus inhabitants happy under their domes? We need this along with thousands of World Trade Center Towers.

[@embarrasseddisgusted7096]

lol!!! Not surprised this came from the wall street diary!!!! Keep up the good work gamblers!!!

[@anobody3803]

Ice reflects sunlight so doing anything to the ice is fruitless. The problem is global ocean temperatures have skyrocketed. It’s not the sun that’s melting the ice it’s the increase in water temperature. It’s like trying to prevent an ice cube from melting in a warm glass of water.

[@richhancock4254]

I thought we were done with this political false flag! I looked up temps from when they started keeping track, nothing has changed, some Winters and summers change, but the math shows, NOTHING has changed. Do your research, use an honest browser.

[@hansel2001]

A good idea but potentially laden with tons of unintended consequences. A layer of salt water on top of mainly de-salinated ice and snow is likely going to create vast stretches of sludge. To make even a dent into combatting loss of sea ice, the scale of such a project would be prohibitive. Good-intentioned people but they’d be better off spending their time and resources towards something that works.

[@TenthCrane2788]

One million pumps and one million small wind turbines that have to be installed, moved hundreds of times and finally removed each year.

[@davewalters6348]

😂😅

[@EllisStcroix]

If humans can unintentionally destroy the arctic together we can all pull together to repair the arctic ... it's a matter of life or death for not only polar bears but the whole of our species asking if we can survive without the arctic is like asking of we can survive without the moon balance needs to be restored... this is an effort the whole world needs to get on board with

[@coolestdude11111]

This won’t be feasible on a large scale. It would require millions of huge pumps and millions more wind turbines/ solar to power it (unless we finally give up on the delusion solar and wind is better than nuclear besides cost). I also don’t agree with merely treating one symptom of climate change rather than spending the resources on treating the root cause.

[@dehout]

It’s not so black and white. Humanity can work on multiple things at once. Not all of humanity have to treat the root issue at the same time, that’s not how it works. Why say that what they’re doing won’t be feasible / waste of time, while the major oil companies still employs tens of thousands of people?

[@coolestdude11111]

@@dehout because it won’t stop the major impacts of climate change. It’s a bandage on a bullethole. We need to go in and do surgery, not waste time trying to cover the wound. We still need oil and will need it for decades even under the most optimistic scenarios. So many major green campaigns are really greenwashed. “ just stop oil” won’t do any thing cause we still have no good alternatives for oil in transportation and plastics, recycling was a sham created by oil companies, wind and solar isn’t really the future in my opinion compared to nuclear. Overconsumption is really a massive problem many campaigns don’t address or don’t really address the issue of consumption. Environmental doomism is even worse though. I also think all these predictions put out by climatologists are BS as they’ve been wrong about almost everything for decades now so their credibility is gone. Frankly it’s crazy they think we understand enough about climatology to make predictions on exact sea level rise in a decade of time for example. All anyone does now is roll their eyes at every new prediction. I do. It distracts from the bigger picture of decarbonization and undermines trust in science.

[@Miamcoline]

Interesting discussion!

[@madhavgupta1558]

Salute to these men

[@wanderous]

2:02 Fonger is wearing a #NEWZEALAND fleece top 😍 - we love Aotearoa New Zealand.

[@vdiitd]

Yeah, what could go wrong in trying to freeze the Arctic? We humans create 10 more problems, in trying to solve 1.

[@ElectricNed]

This guy here knows more than all the PhDs in this program guys, he watched half of this video and already knows what they don't! Always come to the YT comments for the real geniuses.

[@nonamespls3468]

what if you ut water on a very large plastic container and put it in the Arctic? it will freeze in the cold months , melt in hotter months but the water never gets released. Plus you can make the water inside salty so it remains frozen for a long time. Might as well make the upper part of the container reflective to even slowdown the melting. Two birds in one stone, plastic recycled, ice created.

[@yacir]

Commendable effort, thank you.

[@findandgetanything]

Glad to see TU Delft as a part of the team solving this!!

[@eb-pe8xg]

This is a ridiculous plan for so many reasons, to start, look at the sea ice map presented in the beginning. Note that the geographic expanse of the sea ice has shrunk, NOT the total thickness of the ice. The greater the geographic expanse of the sea ice, the great the cooling effect. The reduction of sea ice is a function of warmer water.

[@forwardtothefuture58]

Pumping deep sea water to the surface in the tropics would probably be more effective. It could reduce the intensity and frequency of tropical storms and atmospheric rivers while sending cooler water to the poles where it might freeze more effectively.

[@VendettaDaZippo]

Why not just use old school windmill-like setups to power the pumps? I assume it's pretty windy up there since it's so flat.

[@johansjournal]

because its inefficient

[@VendettaDaZippo]

@@johansjournal so? It'd be passive and free energy for pulling up water. Doesn't need to be efficient.

[@andrewharris1837]

Noble efforts😊

[@180_S]

This is fantastic. I believe that some geoengineering will be inevitably needed at this point.

[@MirceaKitsune]

You must have too much money and not sure what to do with it. Worry not: The government will increase your taxes and use your money to throw random things over ice in the Antarctic because in their cartoon world they believe that's going to save the planet!

[@WildBoy-w7y]

The Arctic ice melting faster than expected? This was the question in the past months, what a relive . And with the help of Immersive Translate you dive into detailed reports from scientists globally.

[@maxheadrom3088]

You mean they will pump more sweet water into the North Atlantic? Arent they worried with the slowing down of the AMOC? Aren't they worried about the salt helping the ice sheet bellow to melt faster? Salt is used to remove ice from roads ... OBS: when water freezes if forms crystalline structures that expell the other substances disolved. Freezing water, for instance, is an efficient way of removing salt from sea water (it's efficient in regions that have temperatures bellow zero)

[@CascadianFyn]

Sounds like the opening plot to a dystopian sci-fi movie.

[@masong8332]

A great idea. But even if successful how could this be done at any meaningful scale?

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

Ok, so you call it a great idea then you reveal it's a useless great idea. Great work.

[@derbybagger5236]

Great point, except we do crazy environmental engineering at meaningful scales all the time. Look-up the great American worm wall. Or the removal of smallpox. One small step doesn't get you anywhere, but ten thousand small steps can climb entire mountains.

[@MirceaKitsune]

Simple: It can't. We're in the day and age where the most "rational" people have zero sense of scale; They'll discover water gets cold when you put it in a freezer, then tell us how we can save an entire continent's worth of ice by bringing a glass of cold water from home and splashing it on the ground... it may sound crazy but it works under lab conditions, so with enough -of your- money we'll pull it off somehow because we always do, after all isn't that how every American success story starts?!

[@keithcampbell7820]

To my uneducated mind the first step in this would be to heat the atmosphere up so it will hold sufficient water and change wind patterns to deliver the water vapor to the areas we want. 😊

[@za7v9ier]

Spraying water over the surface in a mist form would help the water to solidify into ice... just saying..

[@arriroumeliotis1957]

There is no one solution to climate change but i appreciate all you lovely malakas out there trying

[@AIartBonaza]

This is like spitting into the wind to put a fire out.

[@cameroneridan4558]

This is a Proof of Concept you absolute enlightened genius

[@aidasberzinskas]

So helping put a little bit of the fire out. Rather than not.

[@lebagnard6018]

Geo engineering is just a new way to say : let’s try to find something that hopefully works and keep polluting at all cost.

[@ericmaclaurin8525]

How much for enough stratospheric SO2 to cool the artic by a couple degrees for a couple of years?

[@solidorsharp3091]

I’m working on solving this also, refreezing Antarctica.

[@patrickmacleod2415]

I’m not a scientist, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once. But this is an example of the complete lack of any sense of many scientists today. There is obviously too much funding for these people. This should have never gotten off the ground, as the absurdity of doing this at a useful scale should be obvious. But that doesn’t really matter to these people- all that matters is they get funding to keep getting paid.

[@ElectricNed]

The absurdity of treating the environment like a giant f****** open sewer and expecting no consequences is a little bit more of a farce, don't you think? We are in deep s***.

[@MichalStranik]

Since the end of the Second World War, people have been playing with the weather (geo engineering). Somewhere it is deforested, somewhere it is afforested, somewhere it is drained (and rivers are straightened), and somewhere the rivers are restored to their original shape. The water is desalinated. All changes happen at once. Still, someone is able to say that only CO2 is the problem, while no one is able to simulate all the changes that are happening.

[@heidy_km]

This is pretty cool!!

[@phil20_20]

🥁🥁

[@ruckafan]

Interesting work! Shame on The Wall Street Journal for bombarding viewers with one million adds. Brutal.

[@davidbradford8542]

When will we learn to stop meddling in nature, there will always be adverse events.

[@jakeroper1096]

Extracting coal and oil from the ground is the greatest meddling we’ve ever done.

[@dattimmyboy]

@@jakeroper1096true this is fixing it

[@gavinminion8515]

@@dattimmyboy sadly, probably not. Most geoengineering is rich capitalist experiments to promote rich capitalist solutions to a problem which was mostly caused by rich capitalists. To put this idea into perspective, one proposal involved 10 million wind powered pumps, each containing about 10,000kg of steel. That would be 100 million tons of steel. For Mild steel that would be 140 million tons of CO2 released just to build the pumps. Essentially the big problem with geoengineering is that the world is very large. With most of the population busy burning all of the fossil fuels we could get our hands on, it has still taken us a hundred years to get to this point - As one commenter said above, Extracting coal and oil from the ground is the greatest meddling we’ve ever done. It will take a massive amount of geoengineering to come close to that.

[@gavinminion8515]

@@jakeroper1096 I stole your comment in mine below because it is so good I think it is worth repeating twice. I hope you don't mind.

[@jakeroper1096]

@@gavinminion8515 Capitalists and capitalism is the only logical way out. Why waste time waiting for people to be inspired to fix it when we can just pay them via massive buyouts if they’re successful?

[@Yvagne]

If this works, its effect will be minimal. What happens in a certain place on Earth has something to do with what happened thousands of miles away from that place. It means the best way to make the poles colder is by making the middle region greener. So humanity must stop developing natural forests and habitats for industrial and commercial use. This also means that humanity must control its population. This also greatly means that humanity must preserve the natural environment and the lives of animals because animals play a very crucial role in balancing climate. They belong to the chain of balance of this planet so they know better while what humanity does is destruction. No amount of technical feat can make the climate better than simply preserving the animal lives and the natural environment. In short, we must respect them.

[@Thepriest39]

Interesting idea.

[@JB-kn7ig]

Silly question here but in another video from PBS, one of the issues with this might be light getting through the ice effecting life underneath, because snow is gone. Is there a way to shoot the water up into a mist that forms snow

[@spelunking4444]

Nuts absolutely nuts! They're gonna make things worse and melt it instead aren't they😬

[@kenmore01]

Fortunately, I believe their puny capabilities will make no difference at all.

[@skyworks1621]

😂😂 good one, it sure looks like it.

[@spelunking4444]

@@kenmore01 😂 aww seriously though gotta show respect for what they're doing. Much respect guys and gals😢 stay safe

[@donovanjones4175]

Tell Russia to stop dropping nuclear waste into the north to melt the ice for year round shipping lanes

[@BobsHomesteadliving]

I love watching Europeans from Rich families do jobs that will never have an impact. So they can tell their rich little children that they are saving the polar bears lol

[@dehout]

Says someone trying to be self sufficient “to get away from it all” only to be bitching in the comments of random KZbin videos. Real cool, Bob in the ‘richest country on earth’.

[@ABCurry30]

It's paid for the government. Rich people? You mean highly educated? You focus on your welding job. It pays good money and 100% making a direct difference to be fair

[@lunarskuwit9789]

Amazing approach. But have you guys watched Snowpiercer?😭

[@OhWell0]

lol, We have maybe 5 years before the artic tips and releases Precambrian methane, I'm not worried about having too much ice.

[@habbyhouse]

All the funding will surely be taken out of education and Healthcare budget. Because we cannot possibly decrease our frivolous expending elsewhere.

[@BillionairesArentYourFriends]

Ah yes, God forbid the military doesn't get MORE

[@phil20_20]

We won't need those if the people are already dead...

[@philippekervynfaucon9849]

Geoengineering : from conspiracy theory , to WSJ FACT without the blink of an eye . FASCINATING !!!!!

[@DerrickRuthless]

What a mess we’ve made… 😢

[@AtomicOverdrive]

We didnt do this. The planet heats and cools to the extremes in cycles. Its happened many many times before and nothing we can do to stop it.

[@snakeeyes9246]

​@@AtomicOverdriveyes, we did this. Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has increased by 50% in the last 175 years, and we are to blame. Earth should be getting colder if it weren't for us polluting the skies with excessive greenhouse gases.

[@LostMySauce]

@@AtomicOverdrive It absolutely does, but is it just coincidental that the rate at which this has been happening has increased dramatically since the industrial age?

[@180_S]

​@@AtomicOverdrivefirst of all, we did do this. Second of all, humanity never lived during a warm period in history.

[@Jc-ms5vv]

@@AtomicOverdrivepumping c02 into the atmosphere ten times faster than the petm extinction event. Yup I’m sure it’s all natural

[@gigabane7357]

I hope someone with a brain reads these words. This can actually work, but for a VERY different reason than they are thinking. The brine will be a problem, most especially when you ramp this up. But in actual fact, the ability to make ice this way is NOT it's super power. The actual power of this is to defeat a rather strange problem. Ice, for all of it's power in reflecting the sun, is also a massive lid of insulation preventing the heat from the ocean escaping. This is actually going to help in a much better way. This can suck heat from beneath the ice and spread it out above, exposed to much colder contact with the air. Do not think of it as an ice making machine but rather a heat chimney. As to powering the pumps.... Sterling engines can work with the heat different above and below the water line. and roll out solar is now a thing. this can attack the global energy imbalance directly by improving the mixing and allowing the heat to rise.

[@desigk4136]

Good job

[@realstatistician]

Cooling the planet is as easy as blowing up a volcano. Then you just have to deal with the aftereffects of mass crop failure, famine, widespread nutrient-deficiency diseases, mass migration, etc. This all happened in 1816 when Mount Tambora exploded and caused “the year with no summer.” This was even the theoretical cause of the development of potato blight, a fungal disease that caused the Irish potato famine.

[@kz7115]

Do you want Snowpiercer to happen? This is how Snowpiercer happens.

[@paulusfransen1708]

Yes, because that movie is so realistic

[@SeanWork]

Thinking out loud: I heard once that you could just paint roofs white and it'd effectively do what the ice caps do. But then, I THINK I heard this would just cause light to bounce up to clouds and back down and warm the earth even more. SO is this really dependent on latitude?

[@qwertyqwert2818]

The clouds doesn't cover the sun 24/7. Probably only 20%-30% of the time in a year will be covered with clouds. Rest there is no clouds to re-reflect

[@SeanWork]

@@qwertyqwert2818 There's also the case of ocean shipping during 2020 - 2021. That was the year they banned a certain type of ship fuel (or there was a lack of shipping) and they found that the sulfur compounds that come from the ship exhaust where actually helping to reflect light back into space. They were able to measure a noticeable difference in temperature effects. Basically it got hotter without the "sulfur exhaust". I'm starting to think the fastest way to control global temps is through reflectivity .. basically anywhere.

[@wintermath3173]

White roofs also reduce the amount of energy needed to cool the building underneath. Behavior change by people to tolerate higher indoor temperatures in the summer would help as well.

[@CODTerracraft]

So basically we want snowpiercer now

[@CameronCarrasquilla]

It needs a machine that filters out the salt first, then put the salt back in the ocean and the clear water on top. I think the salt will create big problems, like moving and shifting layers that‘ll create „ice earthquakes“.

[@teachingriver3684]

We should harvest Ice from a comet and drop it into the ocean like a big ice cube #futurama

[@phil20_20]

Like, "Red Mars."

[@karanprabhu4317]

Pumping the water at the height of the tallest mountain using solar panels to run the external pumps using insulated pipes to prevent internal freezing will make it snow over the ice caps which are more resilient to the melting effects then the bare plateau surface snow... Look at ladakh building ice stupas using similar technology. Likely the salt content in the water may even aid in preventing the internal freezing. Flooding will create transparent to translucent ice which is still absorptive to sunlight but showering water will create snow flakes which are more opaque and will rather increase the reflection of sunlight with its whiter appearance. Sounds more sustainabke to me... what are your thoughts?

[@johnmcl100]

Messing with the environment spells "Disaster"!

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

Only every time.

[@freespirittravelersblog6770]

This is crazy!! You can't stop change.

[@TycoNewRC]

They need to switch to using renewable energy to power these machines, such as biofuel (which I assume diesel is not) otherwise this will never be sustainable ... And that's assuming all of this is even safe and not detrimental to the rest of the world's environments.

[@amirsadeghi9888]

how do they make the "renewables" ? By melting the glass into solar panels? To exist as humans means to consume energy and generate heat. Climate agenda is anti humanist. Bond villain/nazi vibes.

[@Uruz2012]

Diesel engines can run on thinned vegetable oil with no modifications to the engine. Far easier to have a low or no petroleum diesel than other types of internal combustion engine.

[@kambizfatahi9349]

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[@garrettbrowning4169]

Isn’t this how snowpiercer happens?

[@tdk99-i8n]

Must keep in mind Snowpiercer is a work of thoughtful fiction, not a prophecy