Why Harris and Trump’s ‘No Tax on Tips’ Policy Is So Controversial | WSJ

[@wsj]

Harris is still trying to rebuild Biden’s winning 2020 coalition: on.wsj.com/3AMr68W

[@andreylucass]

Taxation is theft.

[@rapturedongoyaro2986]

The lady from the Brookings Institute who spoke saying, "There's so many ways we could be helping people in the service industry...and this sounds like a sound bite", she did not make any policy recommendations to help tipped workers better. When you make a critique, you must always follow it up with a valid recommendation...else, keep your critique!

[@stickynorth]

@@rapturedongoyaro2986 If WSJ is saying it's a bad idea, it's a VERY GOOD IDEA. WSJ is O&O by the slimiest people on earth. Pay them no mind, god certainly didn't!

[@user-rg7sg6kp1p]

Why the MSM can spin any narrative on any topic in any way they want

[@englishhard1318]

Why dont you get rid of tip and enforce employers to pay their workers not us

[@lik7953]

I mean every policy maker and economist agrees with this. But the politicians are being paid by big businesses, who don't want to pay employees, so what can you do...

[@opinionsmatter-xx4go]

Amen 🙏

[@HelloHi-g2u]

Yes! This is a way better idea!

[@Colonizer2]

Tips work as quality control for gig workers who are not supervised, there's also some industries where it's not compulsory but some customers do it to show appreciation

[@amarreder6241]

...and lay off people?

[@Planetbustard]

We need to discourage tipping culture, not promote it further.

[@abdiganiaden]

An army of servers and bartenders are coming to yell at you

[@houseplant1016]

​@@abdiganiadenLet them use that energy to yell at their employers for better wages

[@ginyilee6538]

@@abdiganiaden you still can tip, we are not forbidding tip. we are discouraging job designed based on tip

[@ScottCovert]

@@houseplant1016or, here me out, the flexibility of restaurant work makes tips a better option for both the restaurant and the employee.

[@HowToChangeName]

​@@abdiganiadenoh you mean those paid protester? Business owner loves astroturfing this one just so you know

[@유주나-i2c]

Workers deserve fair wage without relying on tips...

[@vladvalkovich3749]

No, customer should decide, is worker deserve to be paid or not. That's fair

[@maxican5286]

@@vladvalkovich3749 why? Any other job tips are not a thing. People work jobs to earn money what is the point of working if money is not guaranteed for that work?

[@KidHorn7001]

If they don't like the pay, they can do something else. No one is forcing them to work anywhere.

[@elrond7887]

Restaurants notoriously operate on thin margins. Having the servers work for tips is better for the business and gives the server the opportunity to earn more in tips than otherwise on minimum wage.

[@crazyhawaiidrivers4310]

@@vladvalkovich3749 Do you want every industry to demand tips? Because this is what the proposals do.

[@hocyee]

I'm a nurse, imagine i start to ask for tip for your care. Thats what i see this will do to every industry. Tip culture is already becoming toxic, this is not it.

[@donttalkcrap]

You are dead right!

[@SkeptikTSQ]

Hi there, I no longer work in the Restaurant industry, but I do know that that's an unfair comparison that you're making. Namely, most of the catering industry people, at least in Florida, work for the $8.98 tipped minimum, thus incomparable to your $16-17-18/hour, without the tips. Let's not compare apples to oranges.

[@Omniverse0]

@@SkeptikTSQ Ok, go to school to become a caterer. Fair's fair - like you said: Apples & Oranges. This is why you should stay in school, kids.

[@dejavu9605]

We do not live in a third world country. Nurses do not get tips

[@siddhartharora5528]

The CEO will take $1 in salary and $10 million as tip from "shareholders"... It's a tax break for rich.

[@martinzihlmann822]

every tax break is secretly meant for the rich.

[@purpleWizard0]

🤡🤡

[@justinspitz2609]

harris campaign says their plan is only for service/hospitality workers

[@jimmyconway8025]

You actually have to perform some service to get a tip Emails & zoom calls don't make the cut...

[@siddhartharora5528]

CEO serves the company Makes it valuable

[@sefyboy7183]

Gonna charge my tenants 10 bucks for rent and 1990 tips

[@mon699]

😂😂😂

[@KidHorn7001]

Good luck collecting the tip.

[@HowToChangeName]

How generous of you, a voluntary fixed amount bonus for giving them roof

[@LetsGo-wl5zo]

Tips is USA is not a tip.... The customers are directly paying there salary. The employees should pay there employees a decent salary. Tips is a extra for the good services!

[@stickynorth]

You'd think so but here we are...

[@dennistlc]

Their salary

[@TNMJAD]

Where do you think the employers will get the money to pay their employees? It is from the customer they pay either way…

[@tyjackgaming4574]

“The employees should pay their employees”

[@epinephrinsr71]

Tips were hardly taxed until people stopped paying in cash.

[@KidHorn7001]

And the IRS has hired a lot of employees to go after tax cheats.

[@jimmyconway8025]

Yes exactly! It's BS As someone how makes tips it's Pretty sad having IRS go after people

[@someperson8649]

They still were. The IRS would say we expect you made this amount in tips and you owe us this whether you did or not.

[@jimmyconway8025]

@someperson8649 it's disgusting They dont know Jack squat .made $23 tips Tuesday Total BS got to wait a week get paid in a check weather tips are cash or on cards or combo... Should be daily. Walking with 💸

[@TrigoNomentry]

​@KidHorn7001 not tax cheats but for everyday americans. 80k agents for a couple thousand millionaires? Come on man.

[@ji8044]

Tipping itself is a terrible idea when it becomes the basis of your salary as has happened in the US

[@jesusyebra2093]

Yes.

[@ASmith-jn7kf]

It started post slavery, they were not getting paid at all but had the opportunity to work and earn tips. It stayed around for some reason.

[@soffren]

​@@ASmith-jn7kfit started during the great depression. It was a bribe from a rich person to get better service

[@MrJ691]

​@@soffrenit started after the abolishment of slavery

[@HowToChangeName]

How about no tipping culture at all? I dont want to be the one managing your employee's wage, do your job

[@spht9ng]

Good luck convincing brainwashed servers.

[@LeoNation007]

Now if only the politicians actually listened to THE PEOPLE 😮‍💨😔

[@soffren]

Tell me you've never worked in the service industry without telling me you've never worked in the service industry. If you can't tip, stay home or move to a country where it's not expected.

[@spht9ng]

@@soffren maybe if you can’t work a service job without tips, you should move to a country with tipping culture? Oh sorry the USA is the only nation corrupt enough to have a widespread tipping culture

[@HowToChangeName]

@@soffren done, Im in Asia. I guess being steward for 4 months in my home country isnt working in service enough, but I dont expect tip here either because our wage is fair already

[@yijiequ662]

I had my tips returned on two occasions-once at a restaurant in Japan and once at a spa in China. In both cases, I was politely informed that their employers provide adequate wages and that tipping is considered rude and insulting to their organization. This is quite different from practices in Canada or the U.S., where tipping is more common. In reality, the approach of ensuring proper wages through tipping is relatively rare on the global stage.

[@EbuzzNYC]

That happened to me in Hiroshima, I know about tipping culture, but I was checking in with a huge bag one day, and this tiny girl picked up my bag and took to the room. I felt bad that she had to carry such a heavy bag and offered her a tip. She waved me off politely.

[@ZackyVillain]

it is actually acceptable to tip for extra service in China. But when you do it in a spa, they may think you are asking if they have a backdoor or something for under table business which is very common too.

[@ThebigJJ621]

We're gonna be seeing a whole lot of CEOs and hedge fund managers getting most of the wages in "tips" lol

[@AJ-jx5gm]

no tax on anything will become a loophole for the megarich to abuse.

[@jimmyconway8025]

You have to actually do something to get tips Emails and zoom calls don't make the cut

[@davianoinglesias5030]

They already do, they are called bonuses

[@benjamincaron46]

Eliminate tipping culture and pay minimum wage!

[@stickynorth]

YOU MEAN LIVING WAGE. They need tips because they earn minimum wage, LOL...

[@katherinkeegan8601]

​@@stickynorthIn theory minimum wage should be a living wage.

[@inamib.9786]

@@stickynorthif you listened to the video you’d know they aren’t paid minimum wage. Tipped workers are paid 2$/h + tips

[@jimk8520]

@@inamib.9786 That isn’t true universally. In my state, they actually get minimum wage + tips. In my city, they get 15/hr + tips.

[@jimk8520]

@@katherinkeegan8601 True but logic hasn’t applied to this problem in over 30 years.

[@TugbaAhmet-e7f]

If XAI650K is not mentioned then there is no point in pretending nothing happened man

[@AkshaywaghAkshay-du8hj]

I know many bots pump that but it is a real project, value going up, I got in there and know that it is for real man

[@register_46]

Do not think that is a bad joke they know their thing

[@NurujjamanChoudhury-rx5wp]

wait it's out already?

[@GOLAKNAIK]

How long can we get that

[@rbbodoboy]

Where do you find that?

[@mutuallybeneficialtransaction]

Before you know it landlords be saying rent for $20 but mandatory $1,980 tip per month. It’s a horrible idea.

[@JohnB-nq4js]

That's a great idea

[@Sifissocute]

This is an extremely dramatic statement. Tips are not mandatory and if you can’t afford to leave your server a tip maybe you shouldn’t eat out?

[@SelectKiko]

@@Sifissocute if you can't afford to tip your landlord you should live with your parents

[@seanim6846]

Very soon, we will get sick and tired of this trend. Poor people needing to pay other poor people, while rich people take from poor people.

[@jonathanscott9594]

Counter Argument: Basically all cash tips in the tipping industry already go unreported to the IRS. So this law would actually help out the most law abiding citizens who are reporting their income via tips.

[@chrisfletcher86]

Raise the minimum wage, then rich bankers and stock brokers people can't abuse the law by pretending "commissions" and "bonuses" as "tips"

[@willpickering5829]

I was working at a bakery this summer and about 5% of my tips came in the form of cash. It's almost irrelevant.

[@ritokazoriv]

If you make tips tax free, guess what, your whole wage is getting paid as 'tips', employers should be mandated to pay a living wage without adding tips in that calculation

[@betterchapter]

The Supreme Court Justices have been getting tips for years

[@Nicolas-uu3jr]

waiters are apparently more deserving people than everyone else, example, more important than nurses, docrors, engineers, EVERYONE 😀

[@soffren]

Someone just figured out how democracy works

[@Nicolas-uu3jr]

@@soffren i think you meant capitalism, but "thanks", you just made a good case for communism(the bad democratic kind 😀👹)

[@CesarAnton]

It's horrific that the USA says tipping a waiter is the same as an annual bonus. And using using tips to cover the minimum wage is an abuse, all workers should be paid minimum wage and the tips are supposed to be an extra. USA simply doesn't understand what "tips" are, that's why it's mandatory on many restaurants and used to cover the wages of workers.

[@soffren]

You sound like you don't know any history on this topic. Stating your intuition as fact makes you seem naive and narcissistic.

[@averytucker790]

It still boggles my mind that we still don't give a high enough wage to restaurant workers and pink collar workers. These places make $10,000 day selling food and drink, and they can't pay these people a liveable wage?

[@PASH3227]

If we were to eliminate tipping culture, more restaurants would close. The margins on restaurants are THIN. I live in California where there's no "tipped" minimum wage. All wages are the same and a tip is on top of the minimum wage.

[@KidHorn7001]

Name a single restaurant making $10,000/day?

[@oneocgossiptreecreek]

@@PASH3227 If your business can't afford to have the lights on and pay a living wage, it shouldn't be in business.

[@StaticDreamsEntert]

@@KidHorn7001 I know. restaurants literally have the thinnest margins of any industry. Funny how people have opinions about things they know nothing about.

[@averytucker790]

@@PASH3227 Most restuants that are running like it's supposed to serve 60 people per hour. Which in a 12 hour opening period amounts to nearly to over $10k a day. If you're not making at least $3K a day. Maybe that's a sign to just pack up and close shop. Becuase you obviously don't know what you're doing.

[@Folkeregor]

How about no tips, and mandate current estimated tip amounts as part of base pay?

[@Colonizer2]

Should this also apply to independant delivery drivers who bring cold food 30 minutes late and forget the drink?

[@houseplant1016]

​@@Colonizer2Uhm yes...Let Ubereats or whatever app they use pay them per hour like in the rest of the world. It ain't rocket science

[@soffren]

Cool, so you don't care how long your Postmates takes to be delivered then? Cool, Imma eat your fries and drop off the cold bag in an hour or so

[@Droidman1231]

Ridiculous. A Teacher, Police Officer, Firefighter, etc. deserve to pay more in taxes than a waiter making the same amount?? Just get rid of tips and lower taxes for everyone across the board.

[@itsmelee9760]

As someone who currently makes a living on tips I hate this plan. Just another tax loophole waiting to happen

[@carmashter]

make one of the tipping options "I truly understand your situation, however I cannot support the salary your employer refuses to pay"

[@soffren]

"I know you rely on my generosity to survive, but I'm going to punish you and pretend it's supposed to punish your boss" You know what will happen? The server will not have their hourly wages raised and will just lose income. If we did this to everyone who asked for tips, our economy would shut down.

[@amarifromthesouth]

It's only a problem when poor people don't pay taxes, not the rich.

[@dailyrant4068]

Well it is for both.. .that's why there's a lot of wealth tax discussion, no? I'm supportive of stopping tax loopholes for rich but let's be fair and real here

[@narithshan]

That’s good for me. I pay a lot of taxes on my tips

[@tacomuncher634]

Just remember... you know when a politician is lying? When they open their mouths!

[@Genny-Zee]

Tip: dont tip

[@tiagoquental1029]

As an European, it's almost impossible for me to understand how the greatest world's economy doesn't pay employees. Forcing costumers to directly pay employees salaries is something very, very, very bizarre. But, you know what, it's America...

[@Tacoma-W]

Tips are basically mandatory at almost every service industry. You still pay a min tip for bad service. Some workers earn 100k income just from the tips. Basically Strippers, high end baristas and all these professionals would be living tax free

[@muhammed5667]

150 billion USD tax break (over a decade) for increased financial deficit and benefiting employers for paying a lesser amount to the minimum wage threshold for tipped workers is independant to those who supposedly stand to benefit- the tipped workers. Thank you WSJ for illustrating the deceptive casual inference that both campaigns are pushing legislation on and gathering support for.

[@JohnB-nq4js]

It's a bad idea because it doesn't abolish taxes on every other form of income.

[@patrickbateman1660]

That would be great. Add pigovian taxes and land value tax and life would be perfect

[@KayGee-r5o]

Yes lets not pay these peasants any more and despite the fact that 90% don't pay taxes anyway, this looks like a big win for the anti-union, anti-worker, ruling class.

[@etienne4403]

Tips should be small rounding for service when it is good, not the main source of income. 10% is more than enough. Else you get too much tax evasion and slavery.

[@Sifissocute]

So you believe that if your server provides your drinks, alcohol, plates, sauces, brings your food to you , napkins, and any other stuff that you need while we have 6 other tables also needing to be taken care of don’t deserve 10-20 bucks depending on you total? If you can’t afford good service stay home bc we’re tired of going above and beyond so that you might appreciate our work.

[@etienne4403]

@@Sifissocute No that is not the issue. The issue is the base price in restaurants is too low and thus the wages. In Europe, service is included in the price. Tipping is just rounding/exceptional service. When you tax exempt tipping, what prevents a waiter to earn USD 1 a day taxed and the rest as tips and untaxed? And an investment banker, is his bonus a tip too? Then your whole economic system collapses. It is just cheap politics.

[@stephaniek2913]

Other benefits are calculated on the total earned income reported. What will Social Security retirement benefits be if tips are excluded from taxable income (assuming SS continues as is)? I used to represent injured workers whose benefits were denied on claims--food service being among the most common working class to be injured. If you can't work due to injury, wage replacement is paid at a % of your reported wages. Clients would often be angry that their tips were higher than they had reported to the state or IRS, and they depended on them to pay their monthly bills. Can't have it both ways: if you didn't report the income, your benefits don't consider the earnings. So--if your taxable income is only a couple of dollars--what can be expected to be paid out in L&I 😮benefits to tide you over while you recover from your injury? For my state it was 60% for single, 65% for married and 2% extra for up to five dependents. I have a hard time believing it would be a percentage off the $1500 per month you earned in "untaxed" tips. Haven't seen this part of the argument presented anywhere yet or off what amount you'd be paying into Social Security either.

[@SuperPerfectMan]

Tipping is insane. People hardly tip in Europe for instances

[@NotUp2Much]

Makes sense. Europoors don't have any money to tip anyways.

[@michaelsomething7674]

If the employer can pay workers' tips only, then the employer dont pay in OASDI and Medicare tax. When they get older, there are no protection.

[@johnmaris1582]

You get a tax cut! You get a tax cut! Everybody get a tax cut!

[@stickynorth]

And still nobody solves the budget deficit which is caused by tax cuts for corporations and the 1%

[@leblancexplores]

Dang I was hoping Kamala was doing something more creative than this after I heard this was part of Trump’s policy.

[@JumpsSoHard]

Force employers to pay the full federal minimum wage of 7.25 regardless of tips. And let tips be untaxed. There I fixed it. The fact that tips go to paying wages is insane, not like that in California.

[@stickynorth]

You either support a living wage of all employees or you allow tipped out workers to keep their money.. Anything else is anti-human and evil!

[@peterponcedeleon3368]

Living wage? Who decides that? Ideas like yours will send millions into poverty

[@thndr_5468]

Tipping should never have been a thing. Just pay the workers more!

[@mason96575]

My previous employer paid 50% of my agreed-upon hourly wage via “tips”. Bear in mind: we were NOT tipped. This was a tech support job. But half of my pay was regular payroll / hourly wage. The other half was marked as tips. The sum of the two made up the agreed upon wage.

[@tsunamininja]

I have a feeling many rich people plan on tipping other rich people in this plan.

[@samg7123]

Why dont Americans get rid of tips . It's a bad idea. Pwy the worker through salary. Workers don't have to depend on it and people don't have to worry about it. It's then a proper income with stability for workers.

[@zachweyrauch2988]

Capitalism is gross. Many Americans enjoy using their money to have power over others.

[@johnnyrotten715]

I’ve always thought it was a no brainer that service workers shouldn’t pay taxes on the tips they make.

[@amarreder6241]

IT'S A GIFT 🎁 NOT PAYROLL

[@El_Chivo415]

Why don’t they just tax the rich 3% not the working class on gifted tips

[@katherinkeegan8601]

​@@El_Chivo415For the same reason taxing the rich never works. They hide their money in offshore accounts to prevent taxation.

[@evilbred974]

Then it shouldn't affect whether someone is paid the standard minimum wage.

[@Bulltrader1728]

Package workers get paid hourly or per package, which means they know what they’re going to make at the end of the day.

[@4681MM]

Same economists who are almost always wrong on recession predictions, give me a break

[@ScottCovert]

Personally I think international viewerrs if this segment need to mind their own business and let Americans have their country as they choose.

[@augystthewhorrible]

Did she say why should food deliveries get tips and not mail deliveries? Because, simpleton, mail deliveries get paid an actual hourly wage with full benefits. People who deliver food use their own cars/gas and make crumbs without tips

[@edsta714]

There’s gig package deliveries also. Have you never received a package delivered by a regular car by a regular person?

[@augystthewhorrible]

@@edsta714 those gig deliveries should be tipped too. If you are paying a premium service that brings your food or your packages

[@rcbrascan]

What she means is that the service is similar but the compensation for the work is different and yet one warrants a tip and the other doesn't. Why should coffee shop workers get tips when McDonald's workers doesn't.

[@momentar7494]

There are states that require minimum wage on restaurant servers, the social norm is still tipping at 20%. Minimum wage is the first step, but stop tipping culture is more than just that

[@whereaboutsunknown3822]

Restaurants who can’t pay their workers more than $2.13/hr deserve to go out of business. Get rid of the sub-minimum wage.

[@prognosis2019]

If Americans cared what economists think, Americans would love Biden's economy

[@theshimario253]

tipping should be illegal

[@peterponcedeleon3368]

People like you will bury this country

[@sasstewart1222]

TERRIBLE Idea, we don't need a worse tipping culture. Even as a server who gets tips, this is a terrible idea.

[@bdavid19922]

Doordash drivers would benefit from this. The person delivering the mail gets Healthcare benefits and doesn't have to use their own vehicle. This lady is out of touch.

[@chrisclayton584]

Government: w-w-wait! We can't let these peasants get ahead!

[@patrickbateman1660]

Having tax cuts for people that really only matter due to being a swing state and cost 150 billion for 50k swing votes is actually terrible policy

[@hundop4826]

Lady economist definitely hasn't worked blue collar too long. The guy who delivers your mail is typically part of a union, has benefits and works generally decent hours. The folks who make, serve and deliver your food are about 2 beers and a bill payment away from bankruptcy.

[@patrickbateman1660]

The delivery driver IN THIS VERY VIDEO was an Amazon worker. Overall delivery drivers are barely unionised. There is also nothing supporting your second claim. Nor does it address's the fact it creates unequal taxes

[@hundop4826]

@@patrickbateman1660 barely unionized is still unionized. Thereby supporting my claim. Work the hospitality sector un-unionized during holiday season and let me know how you feel again in a few months. If you have a family, let me know how they feel too.

[@patrickbateman1660]

@@hundop4826 anecdotal evidence isnt evidence

[@hundop4826]

@@patrickbateman1660 you probably shouldn’t talk then right?

[@patrickbateman1660]

@@hundop4826 using anecdotal evidence and ignoring things like silly statistics I can say absolutely no service workers are living pay check to pay check. So easy!

[@leonardobriceno3016]

Great coverage as always. Thanks WSJ

[@robertochavez805]

I worked in a hotel for 3 years, never reported tips. Who even reports tips. This is a non starter.

[@sauceokay]

Just your average politician sharting out improbable policies to get elected.

[@myselfmyself3872]

Duh! 90% of service workers don declare tips because they make garbage. This is so dumb of both of these candidates. How pathetic

[@kennedysmith6967]

“It’s not the most pristine, academically, well-grounded policy but it’s a campaign” …. Lord help us😭😭

[@MrJ691]

GET RID OF TIPPING WE DONT WANT IT OMFG

[@Rexil9]

Only the poor pays taxes. Thinking the rich pays taxes is capping

[@JohnB-nq4js]

The top 50% of earners pay 97% of all federal income taxes.

[@jinniu]

What pressure to raise wages? I've seem them stagnate for years. Who cares if this doesn't cover all low wage workers? OK, then lets think of MORE tax breaks to cover all of them, instead of shooting this idea down, implement it, and create more. Then raise the taxes on the most wealthy to cover the tax breaks. No, we don't want to anger our readers, just keep the status quo.

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[@HenryGordon-ee5ug]

Can I also do it??? My life is facing lots of challenges lately

[@sarfrazahmed8178]

It's a ridiculous policy and all Americans should write to VP Kamala and other law makers to show their disapproval of this legislation.

[@LeoNation007]

This is literally the worst policy idea ever. OML, America had fallen 😮‍💨😔

[@a2515]

Fun fact: The most proposed constitutional amendment has been a balanced budget. It's been put forward more than 100 times since 1999.

[@katherinkeegan8601]

Unfortunately it's unlikely to happen because it would require accountability.

[@KidHorn7001]

I think now, even if the gov't stopped all spending, it would be impossible. Tax revenues would crater and whatever they collected would have to go towards interest on the debt.

[@007SuperSoldier]

Fun fact: all US dollars are created by the government when it spends. Running a balanced budget is stupid because then the economy wouldn’t be able to save net dollars. Don’t you wanna be able to save $?

[@007SuperSoldier]

@@KidHorn7001Your analysis makes zero sense. The only kind of money that can be used to pay taxes or purchase securities are dollars that have already been spent into existence by the government. If you have a dollar in your wallet-where on Earth do you think it came from?

[@007SuperSoldier]

@@katherinkeegan8601It’s unlikely because it would be stupid. Do you want to keep the dollars in your wallet? The government must have spent those dollars into existence, and then not taxed them back. That’s called “running a deficit”

[@dinojello]

What you should do is exactly the opposite, tax the tips at the maximum possible rate to discourage tipping culture and make employers pay their workers a decent salary. But we all know this won’t happen during campaign as may seem like an unpopular move by millions of people in hospitality.

[@donttalkcrap]

We all know that this won't happen in 'Merica

[@Sifissocute]

I hope your realize that taxing servers the maximum amount would take already broke ,young adults making max 25k a year completely poor and unable. It’s hard enough to get by with what little servers actually make and what you’re saying is actually idiotic.

[@bigjigyeah]

How about.... no tips

[@crabcakeenthusiast692]

I don't see why. If it's still legal to only pay someone $2.13 an hour I don't see why the government should get to tax them like they make anymore. Don't like it, change the law and get rid of the stupid tip system that shouldn't even have been a thing in the first place!

[@CreakyCricket]

Why are restaurant owners allowed to use tips to reduce their payroll expense with the tip credit? Why are servers forced to share their tips as a percentage of sales? If servers don't get enough tips to share, they are forced to pay out of pocket or face losing their job. It's a fee to work and benefits the employer more than the employees.

[@DJ-ms8eq]

Hey WSJ, shuuuutttt up. It used to be paying taxes on tips was “up to you” the cash went away and you only had digital transactions. So naturally it was harder to not tell the gov. We went decades without declaring tips. How about we get rid of tipping altogether? Services suck now anyway

[@g0ast]

Why tipping should be outlawed: Casino workers are paid server wages and get most of their income from tips. CASINO workers. Casinos that make millions of dollars in profit every day will not pay workers a wage. That means tips are an extra cost on people who pay and extra profit for companies.

[@joseaguirre744]

Just get rid of the 10% tax bracket and fund it by raising corporate and income taxes back where they were prior to 2017.

[@PlayJasch]

We don´t tax tips in Germany - only for workers. You will be hard pressed to find some tipping 20$ on a 100$ dinner.

[@jameslipscomb6916]

2:50 - “Why would you give tax breaks to people delivering food, but not people delivering packages” Because Fed Ex and UPS drives get paid almost 100k and have benefits. Uber eats and door dash don’t?

[@jeffreynicol8287]

How about paying employees a decent wage. Greedy corporations can handle it with all the profits they make, all while not passing the price onto the consumer.

[@dailyrant4068]

Giant corporations aren't using tips to begin with. They actually want minimum wage to eliminate all the small businesses. Starbucks can easily absorb say $20/hr minimum wage nationwide, whereas the pop and mom cafe can't.

[@patrickbateman1660]

It's up to congress to pass a bill making tips illegal or not preferred way of paying.

[@gabew7480]

Just lower federal income taxes. Helps everyone.

[@legoman8412]

When minimum tip is 18% and tax is only 10%…

[@whatsgoingon07]

Hey MSNBC Why not cover the fact that cost of living quadrupled since 1980 yet wages remained stagnant ?

[@donaghb7307]

Why not just agree to stop letting employers top up wages with tips and you'd win every service and working class worker in the country and by the sounds of it the young vote too.

[@tsunamininja]

America's minimum wage has been $7.25 for the last 15 years (since 2009) - inflation has gone up by 46.61% Very cool

[@davianoinglesias5030]

Tips are in the same category as bonuses for CEOs. Treat them the same way

[@artcurious807]

leave it to WSJ to over analyze something from on high in NY. jeez, let waitresses, delivery drivers, valet etc keep their tips, and not have to declare them. It's the principle of the matter that we waste billions on foreign adventurism and welfare vote handouts that tip taxes shouldnt even be on the table for discussion.

[@santitricks3694]

Food delivery driver stock footage what shot in London. Step your game up WSJ smh

[@verdansk]

Jokes on them. They already don’t report their tips

[@EthanReynolds3090]

NO TIP CULTURE IS THE WAY TO GO!!

[@myob894]

It's not. When Harris says it it is equity and inclusion. When Trump says it , it becomes fiscal irresponsibility

[@dropyourself]

And when either of them say it, it's a terrible anti-worker policy.

[@adamriekert1984]

Mail delivery drivers are part of a union and get all kinds of benefits, not to mention an annual salary. Food drivers have absolutely none of that!!! The WSJ is out of its mind. Most servers make above minimum wage with their tips, so this is not a subsidy for employers, it just helps tipped workers get beyond 7.25/he and closer to 15/hr which is fair for their work.

[@dailyrant4068]

Tipped workers already make same as hourly workers because employers are required to make up any difference, period. You are the one who doesn't understand. I own a few restaurants and am very familiar with how much tipped workers make. In fact, the "busy" restaurants (think your local packed steakhouses) their tipped workers most likely make more than you assuming you work a typical non-tipped job. There are waiters bringing home 7-8K a month pre-tax. People talking about tipped culture also need to realize this is very much a macro problem, not something any individuals can fix. Even people in the industry have to go with the flow. If all your competitors are asking for tips (say you're starbucks) you have to do the same or your workers will say why is dunkin donut workers getting tips but not them?

[@adamriekert1984]

@@dailyrant4068 the average salary for servers is 20-31k BEFORE TAX. The video showed tipped workers making around that much, so just above the no-tax threshold and just below a decent income. Your 5k+/wk is either top earners, fanciful thinking, or an above-average week. The stats don't show servers and bartenders making above 50k, unless crazy outliers. If I tip one of your workers, then it is more likely you won't have to pay to cover the difference below minimum. You should be for this! And as a consumer, if I don't think there should be a tip, I won't tip, so tax-free won't even matter! If you are worried about servers leaving, then tax-free is just an incentive for more people to get into the work. It is difficult, exhausting work, so they should get more than 25k. And gig workers like Uber and UberEats drivers absolutely need all their tips!!

[@donttalkcrap]

Employers should be paying a minimum of U$20 an hour.

[@truthseeker8139]

Tax the rich not the tips

[@ColecoleCola]

Nope. Taxing rich only make you poor

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[@ilia9048]

What, people pay a tip tax in the US?) And yes, no one is talking about abolishing mandatory tipping and paying decent wages to service workers instead - lol, such candidates, such concern

[@ggs847]

This whole rationale is such a stretch. They're really reaching to justify calling this a bad idea.

[@MrJakob49]

I like how the graph clearly shows tipped workers are the largest chunk of the 25-34 range and they just don’t say it. This is straight propaganda….