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@SammySinner6
@SammySinner6 Ай бұрын
My takeaway from all of this: Phone Guy has a huge gambling addiction and it is somehow important for the lore
@shadowsoulless6227
@shadowsoulless6227 Ай бұрын
Dude phone guy probably got William into gambling and Williams gambling addiction caused his divorce and then he gambled with the spring lock suit and lost. My theory is 100% accurate and Canon, it's absolutely irrefutable! Lolololol
@maxwellattacks6645
@maxwellattacks6645 Ай бұрын
Phone guy is a gambling addic named steve (this is cannon my freind's dentist's brother works for scott cawthon)
@salt_factory7566
@salt_factory7566 25 күн бұрын
90% of night guards get stuffed into a suit right before they’re about to win big
@bubblegum1366
@bubblegum1366 23 күн бұрын
​@shadowsoulless6227 William canonically got spring-loaded twice and survived the first time. We never learn details about the first one and it's assumed to be a simple accident, but the idea that he was gambling on it and fucked around and found out is soo fucking funny 😂😂
@fakeorchestra4260
@fakeorchestra4260 Ай бұрын
I love the way that the William in this journal entry is written. He is a psychopathic narcissist, he might not have loved C.C, but he feels slighted by the universe and other people for daring to do this to him. Exactly how I imagined him.
@Poseidon4862.
@Poseidon4862. Ай бұрын
This interpretation works best for FNAF’S story. William interprets love as possession of someone, not as an act of caring. It explains his persistence in putting his children “back together” while allowing him to hold such an immoral grudge against other children, as well as his son Micheal. Micheal, in contrast, learns to love again through bringing peace to the spirits, crying child included, putting their needs before his. The two are diametrically opposed, and have a clear relationship to one another, making their character arcs feel three-dimensional without us actually seeing much of it ourselves.
@2bboe98
@2bboe98 27 күн бұрын
Let’s not use narcissism like that, mostly due to having mental illnesses like those having a bad name if used incorrectly, which William may be. He’s egotistical, but not a narcissist, similar though not the same.
@2bboe98
@2bboe98 27 күн бұрын
He’s most likely a sociopath, there’s nothing in his writing or wording that would make seem like that, he understands he isn’t normal by any standard but isn’t angry at the sight of attention being put elsewhere. A narcissist loves the attention given to them and hates when it’s not on them, this isn’t what’s happening to William.
@themanwithaplan5425
@themanwithaplan5425 23 күн бұрын
Just FYI for anyone coming into this late, Scott said it was fake in a Reddit post. Squaws made a video on it.
@charadreemurr8673
@charadreemurr8673 Ай бұрын
Mike being the stitchwraith is such an interesting idea
@DavidN-fy1gi
@DavidN-fy1gi 28 күн бұрын
He has the Ennard’s mask 😮
@KStarPR
@KStarPR Ай бұрын
I find it interesting that "Steve" is just a stand-in name for Scott. Steve Snodgrass is the indie developer, Steve Callihan is the phone guy. And because Scott likes to reuse names, especially in similar roles, William calls himself Steve Raglan when he is the "phone guy" in the movie.
@Crystal-pro-2024
@Crystal-pro-2024 Ай бұрын
Maybe Scott just likes the name Steve for himself. It's like Scott, but not at all in the slightest.
@inkfox414
@inkfox414 Ай бұрын
Steve Callahan is also S.C. like S.cott C.awthon
@vincentmorris8431
@vincentmorris8431 23 күн бұрын
Gravity Falls used Steve around 7 times
@oobie7448
@oobie7448 Ай бұрын
The stuff with the FNaF 6 animatronics and Mike being these like local cryptids roaming around the state is such a cool explaination to what the hell they were up to until FFPS I wonder if these ideas were re-used for Frights considering the similarities between some of the stories
@SubZero-hs9xc
@SubZero-hs9xc Ай бұрын
The speech william gives at some point goes so hard
@mylam658
@mylam658 29 күн бұрын
All of this really makes me wish we do get an actual lore dump book at some point down the line.
@JustABroom
@JustABroom Ай бұрын
OH MY GOD THIS. God, I remember reading about this, it's honestly such a damn interesting read, even if none of it is or was canon (or real arguably) it's really damn cool to think about, just makes me wonder what a game between SL and Fnaf 6 would be with how much was written, but also with how much Scott would've had to do kinda makes sense he'd just sort of want to skip ahead.
@Mable22
@Mable22 Ай бұрын
Yes!!!! Fully agree
@iamthemouse4483
@iamthemouse4483 Ай бұрын
A game between SL and FNAF 6 would be FNAF 3
@JustABroom
@JustABroom Ай бұрын
@@iamthemouse4483 I mean game release order wise, not timeline wise lol
@user-ye2gv1xy9q
@user-ye2gv1xy9q Ай бұрын
There absolutely should’ve been a game or two after SL before 6. It was really disappointing seeing SL seemingly setting up a new era for fnaf and then it ending one game later
@iamthemouse4483
@iamthemouse4483 Ай бұрын
@@user-ye2gv1xy9q I think from Scott's point of view, between all the books being written and FNAF 6, in his mind, he probably already finished that era by the time of FNAF 6/Fourth Closet.
@-idkk-
@-idkk- Ай бұрын
Real or not that William dialog is so good
@maxwellattacks6645
@maxwellattacks6645 Ай бұрын
honestly, I bet this is true for one reason alone (Afton's fake name in the movie is Steve) Steve is the phone guy's name, and Scott likes to make fun of Matpat's theories. Thus he made Willam's fake name phone guy's actual name as an inside joke
@benwelsh5265
@benwelsh5265 Ай бұрын
I've been looking forward to the reactions to the Talbert Files, especially yours. You didn't disappoint and I'm all the way with you on this measured response to the new info. It's kind of funny, while the fanabase collectively tears itself anew I find that this doc has given me a strange sort of peace. Validation to what I've been thinking for years. That Scott is a well-intentioned but flawed writer throwing a lot of stuff at the wall to see what would stick. Doesn't make me love this franchise and its lore any less quite the opposite but my hope is that these recent revelations might prompt some more interesting and fresh discussions in this community. Honestly I'll take anything over the book continuity debates at least for a week.
@themanwithaplan5425
@themanwithaplan5425 Ай бұрын
Also, the man can write a killer monologue!
@Hex.A.Decimal
@Hex.A.Decimal Ай бұрын
Very well said.
@idolofvines7863
@idolofvines7863 Ай бұрын
i really wish we got whatever document the leakers were referencing instead of this out of context synopsis. i dont trust leakers to do analysis on behalf of an entire community. the info we did get was very interesting nonetheless
@siramaytheshowgundragon
@siramaytheshowgundragon Ай бұрын
Agreed
@klaykid117
@klaykid117 Ай бұрын
Especially because the notes next to the stuff we can actually read seems like a very 'interesting' interpretation
@MsSwitch
@MsSwitch Ай бұрын
Thank you, finally someone understands the issues of recieving this as a filtered compilation document and not the full book itself. I’m sorry I mean no ill will towards those who put it together but I can’t trust that these people who have a history of biased one sided lore views are 1. So thorough they didn’t miss anything and 2. That their perspective didn’t influence what they noted and chose to show and not show.
@chaoticneutral7976
@chaoticneutral7976 Ай бұрын
Using Talbert Files for evidence your theories is like using the old R rated script of the FNAF movie to prove that Garrett died before the existence of Freddy's
@bdubsenjoyer
@bdubsenjoyer Ай бұрын
Great breakdown. There’s so much weird bullshit layered onto this thing, but it’s still reallyyy interesting to see Scott’s thought processes and ideas on this stuff
@johnes2337
@johnes2337 25 күн бұрын
There is kind of an opposition of names between the Stitchwraith being Micheal Afton and the Springtrap being William Afton. Micheal Afton is possessing his dead body after an animatronic went inside of him while William Afton is possessing his dead body after he died inside of an animatronic.
@Cinnamowo
@Cinnamowo Ай бұрын
I fuckin lost my mind yesterday. I was not surprised when I heard from a friend that he's been keeping something FNaF related a secret for more than a year, but I did not fuckin expected it to be the whole FNaF lore before FFPS was released. The way they found this book itself sounds like a fucking Fazbear Frights story Anyway, Talbert is also fuckin hilarious, guy is just a genius. And the fact that the book was supposed to tease him as the FFPS protagonist only for Michael to find the job before him is just the perfect comedy I like. I unironically feel sad that this idea for the files wasn't used. And like, William's Monologue is golden, that's the characterization I wanted him to have so many years ago, when I was reading the trilogy for the first time And then there's a bunch of other cool stuff that I know I shouldn't take as 100% canon, but I really want to. Idk, just the fact that we have Scott's thoughts on the lore, no matter how outdated it is, is exactly what I needed for a long time now. It kinda reignited my passion for FNaF once again
@AldinRamic
@AldinRamic 28 күн бұрын
Wait, you are the friend of the person who leaked this?? Wow
@Cinnamowo
@Cinnamowo 28 күн бұрын
@@AldinRamic I don't really follow FNaF fandom since Fazbear Frights, so I don't know Entom personally, I just talk to a few people who keep me up with the lore and news and they happened to know him. The thing is that it wasn't really them who leaked this book. The book was actually being leaked from their personal chat a few times during the year, I think spanish community was literally aware of it since a long time, which is why the whole situation going on rn is absolutely absurd. Entom is pretty much one of the most trustworthy members of the community and was actually trying to keep this book hidden. But then Scott suddenly says that it is 100% fake, but then it makes no sense cause you don't just create a fake book, to keep it a secret, that is supposedly a cut content anyway so there's no reason to believe anything written in it from the beginning??? Anyway, whatever the truth is, since the book is either already cut or fake, there's no reason to even start a drama, but some people did, and it turned out to be a disaster. Will have to see if anything happens or people will just let it calm down like nothing happened. I just hope Entom will recover from this, nonsensical internet drama can be pretty harmful on mental health
@matthew...4961
@matthew...4961 Ай бұрын
It's overwhelming obviously written by The Mimic ✋️😮
@acronmd
@acronmd Ай бұрын
I'm glad someone is covering this, seperate from all the.. drama.. this is a really interesting insight to what could have been, and into Scott's writing process in general
@lieeeleeee
@lieeeleeee Ай бұрын
I don’t really think this gives us any actual confirmed lore takeaways but it’s so helpful for thinking about how Scott writes stuff and what he was thinking about when. It’s a way to think about whether x theory is possible with the way Scott was writing at the time. Also as a certified Cassidy stan it’s really interesting to think that she started off as a Charlie character.
@svensings01
@svensings01 Ай бұрын
This entire situation pisses me off... why didnt the guy who found it scan the book? I hate it when people find rare unreleased shit like this and hoard it to themselves.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Ай бұрын
I mean they already deleted their twitter from harassment for details about the book- so I’d hold back on hate- it already sounds miserable.
@svensings01
@svensings01 Ай бұрын
@@siresquawks People aren't gonna like hearing this, but all of their problems could've been avoided by just... scanning the book and dumping it somewhere. Their goal was to avoid making the community more toxic, but by keeping this incredibly valuable and interesting source to themselves and their close little cabal, that obviously had a worse effect.
@docrilas
@docrilas Ай бұрын
It was Scott who emailed them and told them he doesn't want the book revealed
@idolofvines7863
@idolofvines7863 Ай бұрын
@@docrilas he said he didnt care and it was up to the leaker. you can read the full email if you pause the video. but no, it was the leaker who withheld the information and not scott
@ALiteralClown69
@ALiteralClown69 Ай бұрын
in my opinion, if a fnaf theorist uses this book as evidence for a claim without having any other proof for that claim, they lose some credibility as a theorist
@Lundcraft
@Lundcraft Ай бұрын
While nothing here can really be taken as canon, I do think it's super interesting and gives a good insight to the ideas Scott have and how he reuses them later. Could help with future theories in general, having a better idea what might have gotten into the current lore. Just sad and horrible everything else that happened related to this...
@WatchThisSpace415
@WatchThisSpace415 Ай бұрын
I feel so conflicted about the arcade cabinet thing now. Because I've basically had a version of that theory to actually ground Happiest Day into something we know for a timeline, kind of like how TMIR1280 grounds UCN as specifically William's nightmares. The main evidence was the 3 arcade cabinets in the safe room because they don't appear anywhere else in fnaf 1 or 2 but are everywhere in fnaf 3.
@rockstarredbear146
@rockstarredbear146 Ай бұрын
From what I'm hearing, sounds like the stitchwrathe would have possibly built log book chica but we will never know. Unless Scott confirms what would've happened in the old story.
@godoatthegoat2884
@godoatthegoat2884 Ай бұрын
I am glad that the idea of William killing Charlie knowing she was going to possess the puppet was cut because it makes no sense. He left her to die outside without even knowing the puppet would come near her body. And he was smiling during the entire murder. To me this says that the murder wasn’t something he felt he had to do, but something he was enjoying. So I feel like this would have been a very clumsy move for the narrative if it was canon
@picardia9496
@picardia9496 Ай бұрын
I don't think Puppet being an experiment has changed. The soundtrack of the Security Puppet minigame implies this, "Alchemist's Fantasy", referencing Afton's objective.
@godoatthegoat2884
@godoatthegoat2884 Ай бұрын
@@picardia9496 then why did he leave? Wouldn't he want to make sure the puppet got near her body? Wouldn't he want to take the puppet with him? Not to mention that the fact it was raining and the puppet broke down in the first place was just a coincidence.
@picardia9496
@picardia9496 Ай бұрын
@@godoatthegoat2884 He left because it wasn't the right time or place to do that, but it was his only chance with Charlotte so helpless. He couldn't just take the Puppet away because he's in the middle of a party. William knew that regardless of the factors, Puppet would do everything he could to protect Charlotte, which he did.
@TheCollector-ql1xv
@TheCollector-ql1xv Ай бұрын
Some interesting ideas I think we can take away from this is FNAF 3 burning down on its own due to faulty wiring as beta Henry looks up how to effectively burn a fire later in the book (at least that’s how Entom and his friends portray it). The DCI are said to be teens in this which is interesting although doesn’t change anything too drastically. It’s mentioned both Jeremy and Fritz from the MCI have older brothers by the same name which would imply Fritz Smith from night 7 of FNAF 2 isn’t Michael under a fake name. Its mentioned Phone Guy is the second missing night guard in that year, could this imply Mike went missing shortly after FNAF 1, possibly because he gets scooped and becomes the Stitchwraith in SL?
@zacvh
@zacvh Ай бұрын
I think if both phone guy and mike go missing in the same year then obviously phone guy would be the first one since he dies the week before mike works at Freddy’s. if phone guy was the second it might actually be saying that there were more security guards besides him in between fnaf 2 and 1 but obviously he told Jeremy he would take up the position after him and fritz was the one who actually did so we already knew that there was other security guards than phone guy between then
@19EggsBenedict83
@19EggsBenedict83 28 күн бұрын
I almost believed it to be canon until I saw Scott’s response-
@lilacpenguin5329
@lilacpenguin5329 28 күн бұрын
me too, saw the reddit today, its a shame really
@siramaytheshowgundragon
@siramaytheshowgundragon 29 күн бұрын
Man this book is confirmed fake by Scott! But I still appreciate your thoughts and Being calm and collected about this wish more people where insted of takeing everything the book says that’s not undeniable wrong as canon Man they darn made fools of themselves
@freeguy3894
@freeguy3894 29 күн бұрын
the weird part about this thing being "fake" is that entom and co originally called it fake too and didnt want it to get out. i honestly think scott saying its fake is just his way to prevent certain people (mostly fnaf tik-tok and other younger members of the community) from taking it as canon.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 29 күн бұрын
That’s a very specific thing to plan around- I think the opposite could be argued. Make it seem like something so big or important there’s a conspiracy attached to it. If it “wasn’t meant to come out” then it doesn’t need to be well made or 100% traditionally believable. Like I could easily make this document if I really wanted- there’s nothing about it on a technical level that couldn’t be faked. Not saying the conspiracy is the definitive answer- but there’s a lot of ways to interpret things. I’d say at this point it might as well be- as there’s too much crap you have to sift through to get any insight from even if it was “real”.
@TheCollector-ql1xv
@TheCollector-ql1xv Ай бұрын
FNAF 4 makes even less sense with this book. Who/what was the Fredbear plushie? He wasn’t William as he didn’t care, and he wasn’t possessed as no one’s died yet? What’s with pigtail girls rumor, again no animatronics should be possessed as of now. What the hell are the shadow animatronics?! Cassidy draws a photo of them meaning they aren’t dead kids remnant/agony, they aren’t springlock victims because according to this the safe room gets sealed in 85 hiding the MCI bodies (surprised you never mentioned that in this video). Who’s happiest day for FNAF World made it seem like it was for CC but again there’s no dead kids ghosts to even know about him let alone help him move on. Honestly I hope this isn’t canon because it means either Dream theory was canon or Scott really had no idea what he was doing with FNAF 4 and still didn’t know until FNAF 6/the logbook.
@SaggyWaggy-is8it
@SaggyWaggy-is8it Ай бұрын
All of this was probably going to be answered within the original FNaF 6 game. Supposedly theorists believe Talbert was going to be revealed as Phone Guy or whatever. There's a lot of missing context (the book itself included) which just makes it impossible to fully grasp what we DO have.
@damkylan3
@damkylan3 Ай бұрын
The fact that William didn't care doesn't contradict him being Fredbear Plush. William has always done all of this for himself and his own benefit. The novel trilogy showed this; different events, different characters, same bastard with the same perspective on life and death at the expense of his own children. Just like he did with Elizabeth in TFC, CC's death is nothing but an opportunity for him to research. He uses the exact same word (and logic) in both TFC and the monologue in the Talbert Files: replicate. Replicate the pain, the sadness, the tragedy. That is how he will put him "back together". Obviously, he's wrong. William has never understood the supernatural, and he doesn't understand love or human emotion. So it goes wrong. Perhaps that is WHY CC's memories get all messed up and broken amongst the MCI (Shattervictim, in other words; William's monologue basically confirms it as canon, at least back then; I think it most likely still is canon, and the reasons for that have nothing to do with the Talbert Files), the "pieces" William put in place. Enter FNAF World, where Cassidy or Charlie or whoever the hell it is, works to fix this. To bring the pieces back together, and repair what he destroyed. So with that in mind, that's why the kids eventually reach out to CC, or at least Cassidy does. I mean, even before this came out, they were never friends with him in life, and yet they helped him anyway. Because his memories become part of them, and ultimately become the means in which they are all freed in FNAF3. Happiest Day is for all of them. In freeing them, CC is also freed. Pigtail girl's rumor is just a rumor. It was never in reference to anything, just a spooky story being passed around that is intentionally meant to sound like the MCI. Just like how CC is intentionally meant to be reminiscent of the Puppet, and that one doofus with a Spring Bonnie toy intentionally calls it a "finger trap", etc. The reasons for why these are intentional... well, that's another theory. As for the Shadows... fuck the Shadows. lol I'm done trying to figure them out. They've never been explainable before and never will be, so no great loss there.
@thetuned6972
@thetuned6972 Ай бұрын
Happiest Day is for Cassidy but it can only happen if BV's memories/remnant are "put back together". When BV dies his remnant is shattered and essentially curses the restaurant chain, causing the things in the FNaF4 minigames like a toy chica with no beak to manifest in the real world. Because he views the plushies of the 5 animatronics as his friends, his remnant winds up in each of the 5 main animatronics, with Golden Freddy having most of it as Cassidy communicates with BV through the logbook. FnaF3's minigames and World's clock side quest is you piecing BV's memory back together so you can throw the party he never got, but give it to Cassidy instead so both BV and the MCI kids get to be free.
@maxwellattacks6645
@maxwellattacks6645 Ай бұрын
@@damkylan3 Yeah people seem to forget that the Plush in Fnaf 4 just fear mongers you for most of the game
@picardia9496
@picardia9496 Ай бұрын
The Fredbear plush doesn't have to be a supernatural entity, it can just be an imaginary friend. And if you want to find a supernatural explanation, then William's own explanation makes it clear, CC left part of himself through his sadness, part of these remnants would remain in Fredbear plush and that is what would give it life. Two possibilities are made very clear, either the Shadows are extensions of Cassidy, or they are remnants of CC. The most likely is the latter, because of the relationship between Michael and Shadow Freddy, and the relationship between Garrett/CC and Shadow Bonnie that the movie implies.
@shadowsoulless6227
@shadowsoulless6227 Ай бұрын
Liking the video purely for the sign off at the end of it It's the best part of his videos BBUUUYYUUUYYEEE
@salahdeanclemens2226
@salahdeanclemens2226 Ай бұрын
Yeah more guide novels to add to add Scotty’s wet dream of lore
@Bloodluvingirl
@Bloodluvingirl Ай бұрын
This feels way to much like fanfic to me. If it is real, it has to be very early concept work. To much random tangent stuff mixed in for one solid narrative as far as I can tell.
@bathilra5364
@bathilra5364 Ай бұрын
the only thing i got out of this is phone huy has a name now
@inkfox414
@inkfox414 Ай бұрын
This document was not intended for the public, so these notes were most likely written for other members of Entom's private group, which is why they sound so weird, I think.
@scenikeight
@scenikeight Ай бұрын
I really wish we had access to the actual book instead of the summary but I get why we don't. It would be a lot easier if we could just read the book itself :/
@NotMichaelAfton222.-_
@NotMichaelAfton222.-_ Ай бұрын
My personal thoughts on the files right now is that if it is cannon it was basically just like spit bawling for the book. Like a lot of the blurbs we're seeing are just like bits of Scots hey what if we did this Thoughts.
@jasminguiza6227
@jasminguiza6227 Ай бұрын
I think so too. I think he’s writing or thinking up early story concepts and he probably re wrote or re used some ideas later on. While it’s an interesting draft and rough idea of the story too many things are written weirdly or poorly thought out (? I don’t know how to explain it). But this is a pretty interesting read, it’s nice to see how Scott’s mind and process works and the rough and vauge ideas or thoughts/ storylines seem pretty interesting.
@lieeeleeee
@lieeeleeee Ай бұрын
It’s interesting that Emmett made the mediocre melodies, seems like more evidence that Henry made the mediocre melodies. I’ve never cared about that theory to be honest but it’s interesting that it seems to have soemthing in it that could be true
@BunBit_
@BunBit_ Ай бұрын
Question: I really dont get how this implies FrightsFiction? Yeah, sure, it sets a precedent for FE making fun of their past, but we didnt actually need a precedent for that anyway.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Ай бұрын
More so the part of FrigthsFiction where the horror establishment is tied to Fazbear entertainment in some cooperate way- explaining the name and usage of the characters in the books theoretically.
@BunBit_
@BunBit_ Ай бұрын
@@siresquawks so its based on the similarity in name (Fazbears Fright and Fazbear Frights)?
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Ай бұрын
@@BunBit_ And the importance of Springtrap who between Plushtrap, What we found, Trash afton, In the flesh, and (kinda) into the pit appears a LOT.
@Sopsy_Hallow
@Sopsy_Hallow Ай бұрын
im not far into the video but the first example thing already really stands out to me !! a week or so ago while watching some ryetoast video where he talked about how the name for the puppet spirit being "charlie" comes entirely from the novels as she's never named in the games, it made me wonder if thats even her name then, since using the novel trilogy as evidence is generally pretty bad, esp for names (iirc the missing kids have mostly different names there, ones even called micheal, so) and it made me think about the logbook and how "cassidy" could maybe be the puppet, idk how well that idea would work since im no expert on what the logbook entails or anything, but from what i know of it i dont see a reason why it cant work. ofcourse this would pretty massively alter the story interpretation from the games, atleast from what the mainstream interpretations are (which ngl ive always found to be messy at best, but thats for other reasons) imo most timelines and theories have significant issues with legacy ideas, where they take an old theory as practical fact, even if that old theory is shakey or a shallow interpretation that doesnt actually hold up under any kind of logic. theres other issues too ofcourse, like how human involvment seems to always be diluted to 'henry and william, maybe a bit of micheal' for literally everything even if we know other engineers and employees existed and were involved. although i do understand that with how messy and allover the place fnaf lore is, that its a really difficult task to ask people to make sure their facts and sources are true and make sense, and reavaluate their interpretation, esp if they're so deep rooted as a characters identity
@Sopsy_Hallow
@Sopsy_Hallow Ай бұрын
since it was brought up in the video to some degree, i think its fine if the overall story is focused on william and 'henry' for the most part, but my point still stands about attributing things to them, a lot of theories try to make any action be done by either of them which usually just makes things more complex and cluttered than just having an unimportant 3rd character do it. like theres no reason every animatronic has to be personally made by either william or 'henry' themselves, it doesnt even make any sense
@acronmd
@acronmd Ай бұрын
Mainly because Henry is pretty much all but confirmed to be.. well Henry, and his child is the one who became the puppet. The only other Henry we know is Henry Emily, and the child only makes sense to be Charlie. If Henry wasn't namedropped in FFPS then maybe I could see it, but I see no issue with novels being used as evidence when characters that clearly exist across universes exist
@user-ye2gv1xy9q
@user-ye2gv1xy9q Ай бұрын
The DCI being teenagers is interesting. There’s no way that was intended in fnaf 2, so if it wasn’t intended in fnaf 2 then would that have been a retcon if it was released. If it wouldn’t have been a retcon, then that kinda tells me that Scott had no idea what SAVETHEM meant
@SammySinner6
@SammySinner6 Ай бұрын
I feel like the DCI were meant to posses the toys, but Scott realized it'd be redundant and kinda pointless, if they were really possessed then they had the least amount of attention put to them compared to MCI and the SL spirits Hell I think the SL characters were meant to have their own set of kids before it was sorta changed to be the original mci
@maxwellattacks6645
@maxwellattacks6645 Ай бұрын
@@SammySinner6 I am pretty sure he retconed the DCI into the company using the parts from the old animatronics so basically the toys and classics are a hive mind of 5 dead childern
@SammySinner6
@SammySinner6 Ай бұрын
@maxwellattacks6645 yeah that seems like it's very likely
@Buck_effin_Cluck
@Buck_effin_Cluck Ай бұрын
It seems like that people who found the “original book” are really confused by what they’re reading. They aren’t being very neutral, and it is almost like they are reading what they want to believe, instead of giving a truly objective viewpoint.
@TheCollector-ql1xv
@TheCollector-ql1xv Ай бұрын
55:49 mic jumpscare
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Ай бұрын
That happens from time to time- it was only a matter of when it'd accidentally be left in a video
@cenobittten
@cenobittten Ай бұрын
This leak and the story behind it is insane. So weird to hear what the lore might of been. I thought it must be fake at first but as it is looking very possible it's real. Of course, its not a reliable source at any rate,just a curiousity. At this point we're so far beyond this doc being relevant to current lore. Still interested in it but its pretty useless for theorising lol.
@docrilas
@docrilas Ай бұрын
People who believes that Scott only made one retcon now:"💀💀😱😭😭i can't trust you now Scott"
@siramaytheshowgundragon
@siramaytheshowgundragon Ай бұрын
1:26 nah bro im ok with hour long its like when it passes 2 hours that im like "ok i cant do that" but one hour no problemo!
@galaxyrend4512
@galaxyrend4512 29 күн бұрын
I know there’s a huge back and forth debate now, but I’m choosing to believe Scott knows what he wrote, and this is fake. The more you really delve into it the more it sounds like insane fanfiction to me, made by a group of passionate fans who wished for more from fnaf’s story or at least more blatant confirmation. Scott has outright stated he doesn’t recognize this at all, and that the supposed emails he sent Entom are fake. This just begs the question why this group of friends is hellbent on the narrative that this supposed draft is real? What do they gain from lying? What would Scott gain from lying? This is so absurd 😭
@galaxyrend4512
@galaxyrend4512 29 күн бұрын
If this really was the planned story, Scott straight up could’ve just gone “hey guys. at some point in the story’s development, some of this was planned, but it isn’t what the story is. This isn’t canon. Released content Is canon. Have a great day (:” this all just disappears. He loses nothing.
@lilacpenguin5329
@lilacpenguin5329 28 күн бұрын
i dont know what the motive would be for Entom. ive never been so flabbergasted, and i was around since Dream Theory.
@TheCollector-ql1xv
@TheCollector-ql1xv Ай бұрын
I really hope Scott catches note of this and makes a statement regarding it this leak is real or not
@doutorquem4279
@doutorquem4279 Ай бұрын
Its Canon but not in the continuity of the Games
@Personian
@Personian Ай бұрын
@@doutorquem4279I really hope you’re joking…
@CloudMouth27
@CloudMouth27 Ай бұрын
​@@doutorquem4279the talbert files are not canon, it was never intended to be released therefore it is not canon in any way shape or form
@doutorquem4279
@doutorquem4279 Ай бұрын
@@Personian Of course thats a Joke. Thay would be The response Scott gives to everything.
@vincentmorris8431
@vincentmorris8431 23 күн бұрын
I'd think Cassidy's biggest tie to green would be potentially her eyes Fredbear and Drowning girl. Her with Happy Frog might parallel her and Andrew's Gator mask, and/or the green one in Happiest Day. Upon looking up artwork for 'fnaf Abigail', much of it had it as such. Likely off the Abby Baby anagram that the movie probably uses. I questioned if it settled on Elizabeth, named after the British queen, hence her reference at the end of Bobbiedots.
@Oli6906
@Oli6906 25 күн бұрын
I'm not a fnaf expert by any means, but this leak feels very sketchy. The fact that the most important information is in the leaker's notes, rather than the summaries feels like they realized they forgot to add it in and quickly made the notes afterwards. Also now that Scott confirmed that this is not real, so hopefully people stop trying to use the leaks to justify theories
@nintenkid-nt2rk
@nintenkid-nt2rk Ай бұрын
Cassidy was done dirty by Scott she went from being the most important character to just being kind of irrelevant which is a W Charlotte deserved it more, emmet being replaced by Henry makes more sense he is Williams business partner after all
@herminy1324
@herminy1324 25 күн бұрын
Man I Love when fnaf production and background info leaks out, not as cool as the stuff left over in security breach to use as a jumping off point for theories but real cool. Viva la cut content
@smt64productions40
@smt64productions40 Ай бұрын
Universe, I was joking…okay more like headcanoning that Steve/Indie Dev is Phone Dude
@PandaSlothProductions
@PandaSlothProductions 29 күн бұрын
This whole drama ruined my day bro 😭
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 29 күн бұрын
It’s fucking messy
@lilacpenguin5329
@lilacpenguin5329 28 күн бұрын
same here, i'm so tired and the freddit is in shambles
@thisnameanothername2156
@thisnameanothername2156 Ай бұрын
by the way do you have a link to the document?
@diegodankquixote-wry3242
@diegodankquixote-wry3242 28 күн бұрын
This stuff is freakn peak fire!!! Happy frog is based off proto-charlie's favorite things?
@danello2367
@danello2367 Ай бұрын
This was such a cool video to see. If you can Sire what is the music that you've used in the video? Enhances the experience really well
@1SpeedyYoshi
@1SpeedyYoshi 29 күн бұрын
I really appreciate your input on this hook. Personally I think you're overthinking the Cassidy Talbert and Phone Guy things. FazEnt is paying Talbert to spread misinfo about the MCI and everything that happened afterwards. He's putting so much blame on Phone Guy because he's a relative nobody in the company. If people think he did it, it's no big deal. But Afton was a big guy in FazEnt, going on to found his own robotics company and stuff. If it was public speculation or knowledge he did it, then it would be a bigger story. As for the "Cassidy Talbert", it's simply Talbert coming up with a fake reason for why he's so invested in this case. WE know he's just doing it for money, but for people who don't know the details it would seem like a father still mourning his daughter and trying to find out what happened. The one person who calls him out on it gets his comment deleted. Emmet Tucker doesn't call him out because he's off doing something else. Whether he's in jail, just off the grid or what we'll never know. That's just my two cents anyways
@Nobody-hr4gt
@Nobody-hr4gt 28 күн бұрын
Everything is canon and every game is someone telling the same story to an interviewer but because none of them can remember perfectly what happened so they're just saying shit
@GendoRokabundi
@GendoRokabundi Ай бұрын
The MCI children names is pretty “huge if true”. It puts two kids as the children of the FNAF2 guards. Maybe Cassidy Talbert is the daughter of phone guy that is alluded to, and Talbert has gone over the deep end and thinks he’s phone guy (or is phone guy under an assumed name). It at least addresses the fact that the fnaf2 guards both share a name with two of the MCI kids.
@SubZero-hs9xc
@SubZero-hs9xc Ай бұрын
The dms confirmed that this is official Fun thing, Confirm bitevictim first
@teapub9119
@teapub9119 29 күн бұрын
god,when 'leaks' like this drop, i always like to hope that this is Scott's new way of dropping lore, these weird things that seem to make some sense and some not so much, and we have to piece together what is real and what isn't. it almost certainly isn't,but it's a good idea
@Crystal-pro-2024
@Crystal-pro-2024 Ай бұрын
Emotion residue could be early agony, since theres allready a lot of freights stuff in here, or protoype versions of them.
@mynamesnotisac9112
@mynamesnotisac9112 Ай бұрын
22:14 i'd LOVE to see you do a petscop theory from you sometime (also it was fun to watch you lose your mind over making sense of all this lol)
@lieeeleeee
@lieeeleeee Ай бұрын
Why did they pick such and incredibly hard to read font for this document 😭
@carmenlynn5441
@carmenlynn5441 Ай бұрын
Why cant Mike be Mike Schmidt? What if the vlad and clara story was mikes mom and william, like if he was initially raised by a single mom whos last name was Schmidt? It would explain Mike wanted to please william before his scooping, daddy issues. We just assume he took williams name, couldve eveb changes it after his mom died
@thisnameanothername2156
@thisnameanothername2156 Ай бұрын
also wouldnt this be proof that cassidy and charlie where the same character in the games at some point,
@damkylan3
@damkylan3 Ай бұрын
More like proof that Golden Freddy and the Puppet were gonna share a soul at one point, in the sense that both of them would be Cassidy, if the information is indeed correct. Charlie at the time would still have only been a novel trilogy character and wouldn't exist in the games. It wasn't until after Scott scrapped all this that he decided to toss his book characters into the game universe.
@MrCacoMC
@MrCacoMC Ай бұрын
One "funny" thing about this is that (imo) it actually kind of implies that Andrew might have been the original 5th missing kid? Like, writting Cassidy Tucker into the MCI seems to be a recent idea of Talbert/Callahan/Faz Ent, and you can see how it's all being done in the moment and without much planning through the inconsistencies (Making Tucker die in Freddy's in 83, but then making Cass Talbert be the one that went missing in 85, despite Talbert not legally existing in that time period and having no kids nor ascendants, making the first change meaningless and the second one ill-planned), and considering that the newspapers about Cassidy and the MCI's disappearances were written before this "cover-up plan" (sure, there's that one note about Cass' ghost roaming FFP, but you can't report a missing person as missing squared, so there must have been 5MCI + her) this makes me believe that: not only is Cassidy Tucker's death being changed in both place and time, but that she's also taking someone's "spot" in the MCI, similarly to how she's also the soul in GF + The Puppet. So, under this interpretation you end up with 8 kids: BV (who's gone sans pieces of his soul left behind and who's only mentioned twice), Cassidy (who died around FFD and whose soul was split between Pups and GF), 4 MCI kids (who posses the main fazgang), Abby (proto-Lizzie and the kid in Baby), and one kid whose spirit never attached to any animatronic and who was being actively erased from history; that last kid just *screams* Andrew imo, friendless, probs angry, wouldn't have to move on with the others, and free to attach himself to Will. This would even fit a lot with something stitchline-like imo. Jake feels a lot like BV, and turns out that under this idea, Cassidy would have definitely been Yellow Eyes (thanks to the simultaneous PupBear connection not making it that weird) and used him to free the spirits/part of her in the gang. Either part of her would still be around as seen in the epiloges and HD, and he'd still probably be around as pieces afterwards (probably in the stitchwraith's doll) seeing as he wasn't in the party, then he'd just have to get close to Andrew and help him move on like Jake does.
@Shift_Salt
@Shift_Salt Ай бұрын
Imo this feels fake But still kinda interesting I guess
@sage-hf6bx
@sage-hf6bx Ай бұрын
Scott please just release the full 35 page of lore so we can leave this series behind. The lore is so inconsistent, characters that aren't important are stated to be to make the community argue agsinst each other saying "It's in the book it has to mean something", waiting years for information just to recieve vauge wording, and or books that are poorly handed. Please for the community Scott just release the lore.
@pinkkittykat_1234
@pinkkittykat_1234 29 күн бұрын
Lol no
@GendoRokabundi
@GendoRokabundi Ай бұрын
Wait, this mentioned the mediocre Melodies being created by Emmett …
@themanwithaplan5425
@themanwithaplan5425 Ай бұрын
YoYoYo!
@commandobrando618
@commandobrando618 27 күн бұрын
NONE OF THIS IS CANON, AND WAS NEVER APPROVED BY SCOTT so it doesnt matter.
@skeletonlover3214
@skeletonlover3214 24 күн бұрын
Interesting
@sh1nyman483
@sh1nyman483 Ай бұрын
Hey! Just one quick note, the title of the video should be the "Talbert Files," not the "Taggart Files."
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Ай бұрын
Oop
@user-ye2gv1xy9q
@user-ye2gv1xy9q Ай бұрын
They really had to give them super similar names lmao 😂😂😂
@reluctant_follower9131
@reluctant_follower9131 Ай бұрын
Can you please share the link?
@Celtic1020
@Celtic1020 29 күн бұрын
Do you just cut out every second of silence between your voice? Because it sounds very choppy and often too quick for me to follow.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 29 күн бұрын
Sometimes silence is left but a lot of it was cut. Honestly I was worried there were too many pauses.
@siramaytheshowgundragon
@siramaytheshowgundragon Ай бұрын
man did i miss it?
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Ай бұрын
I don't know how you miss a video
@siramaytheshowgundragon
@siramaytheshowgundragon Ай бұрын
@@siresquawks ah thought you said it be a stream! Glad I wasn't late hahaha
@SpringsFNAFTime
@SpringsFNAFTime Ай бұрын
Hey! I wanted to make a video on it!, though more professionally than this lol
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Ай бұрын
Go for it
@SpringsFNAFTime
@SpringsFNAFTime Ай бұрын
@@siresquawks I posted it
@user-fk3mt8ck3v
@user-fk3mt8ck3v Ай бұрын
My headcanon name for Cassidy is WAY better than this. I'm not using Cassidy Tucker 🙄
@letty0505
@letty0505 Ай бұрын
Same tbh. Tucker sounds kind of… uninspired? Lame? Idk. And I know no one asked, but my own headcanon is that her full name is Cassidy Leigh Andrews. I got inspired when I saw a comment section in one of Sire Squawks' videos about Cassidy, and the comment suggested that her last name could be Andrews, in a way to reference the character Andrew from the Fright books. I liked it and made it my headcanon, only adding the middle name Leigh because I thought it was cool and it's also a gender neutral name, just like Cassidy.
@HolderofPlaces
@HolderofPlaces Ай бұрын
I named her Cassidy Nakamoto, I definitely like that surname better than Tucker
@user-fk3mt8ck3v
@user-fk3mt8ck3v 29 күн бұрын
@@letty0505 Exactly. It just feels too normal or ordinary for such a crucial character.
@letty0505
@letty0505 29 күн бұрын
@@user-fk3mt8ck3v I was aware that Cassidy's full name wouldn't be anything like what I came up with but I was hoping it would be something far more interesting, you know? I mean, characters like William Afton, Henry Emily, and Mike Schmidt are all appropriately named imo. Heck, even that false identity William used in the movie sounds way better than "Cassidy Tucker" 💀
@user-fk3mt8ck3v
@user-fk3mt8ck3v 29 күн бұрын
@@letty0505 YEAH. If Phone Guy's name is different in The Week Before (If the book is actually about, which i hope it will), then i guess we can doubt about that name. Or just it being from a scrapped story is enough to doubt about it. I think Cassidy's full name isn't going to be SUPER weird or special, something like Cassidy Courtlaw (That's my headcanon name), Cassidy Lockett, or even Cassidy Brooks as a reference to Michael Brooks would be better than Tucker. Each time i hear that last name i just imagine Craig Tucker from South Park!!
@breebs
@breebs Ай бұрын
SQUAWK PLEASE GET A BETTER MIC I WILL PAY FOR IT PLEAES
@desplanchesstevan1418
@desplanchesstevan1418 Ай бұрын
> Ramble in mic for 2 hours straight > Has a shit micro (No bad feelings)
@Ssppaghettienjoyer
@Ssppaghettienjoyer Ай бұрын
Is that Fran Bow music
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Ай бұрын
Yes
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