Wuthering Waves HUGE REVENUE SPIKE Proves Everyone Wrong...

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Wuthering Waves has been under a lot of pressure since the recent Revenue Chart, but in this video we got osme more news about WuWa's REAL revenue from a more reputable source. In this video i look through Wuthering Waves all time revenue and talking aboiut whether this is a good or bad thing for the game and whether new characters like Camellya are going to provide another BIG Revenue spike for Wuthering Waves or if it's going to fizzle out like the previous banners...
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[@kazahanaedits]

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[@chelo136]

If you add all sensortower revenue it gives 130 million, filthy liers, instead the 150 million that is so different is the actual true and the others are haters indeed, big brain right there lol

[@Sthhuihryjbtijhuijnn]

After shorekeeper drained everything..... Probably a pretty huge amount

[@gaobili]

People take mihoyo's revenue for granted, and don't know how lucrative Gacha games actually are. Content creating isn't that expensive, the main expense of Gacha games is actually the marketing. Assuming the game is doomed and the company will go bankrupt if there is a fluctuation in revenue is naive, even if version 1.3 only generates revenue recorded by sensor tower, it will be enough for Wuwa to continue its development for a long time.

[@ThomasAndy-qu8dp]

wow someone with common sense. Thank you. Fun fact, when genshin impact came out, it was among the most expensive game ever"made" because of its insane marketing costs. The game production itself was 1/3 of the spending, all the rest was marketing.

[@blueraine21]

@@ThomasAndy-qu8dp Its not among the most expensive game ever made, IT IS the most expensive game ever made... Hoyo announced genshin already cross $900mil in development cost..

[@mr.edelweiss]

100mil+ from the game and others are from the expenses of marketing.

[@FocalResonance-1997]

@@blueraine21 And where do you think that money came from? THE CCP BABY. Hoyoverse is the CCP's strongest lapdog, I can rest easy with Kuro because they're Hong Kong based now, so no censorship bullcrap or reducing of boob size will be happening.

[@Weaponxkp21]

Why is nobody talking about how mobile finally got controller support and how that's bringing back players?

[@Yewrenegade]

I dont have a controller but dayum straight im happy for us mobile peeps who want to use controller on mobile

[@Tennyson999]

yea im surprised how well it ran. i mostly play on pc before this as mobile performance was meh on my s24 ultra. now it runs at 60fps smooth for a 30 minute play session. enough to do one echo hunting route. only reason why im specifying 30 minutes is because i dont feel like playing longer than that on most days and i prefer to do story content on my PC but it doesn't feel like thermal throttling was coming up any time soon. my guess the iOS performance would be even better on newer iphones.

[@Weaponxkp21]

@@Yewrenegade i literally haven't been playing the game until now because It didn't have controller support. I would just log on to grab the free stuff until they finally added it. Now I'm fully playing and spending on it!

[@GeshuLin_WW]

You guys won't believe I actually ordered a controller just to play WuWa 😂😂😂

[@smallpatrick6816]

Yeah I tried it is pretty good but now my controller kinda doesn’t work anymore, kinda sad

[@tuhin1757]

Welp, already knew it. Even tho Kuro probably would never see this. I wish people send Kuro enough emails about suing sensor tower so at least it came to their notice if anything. If they can’t sue it, then Kuro can at least announce it on their social media to warn their player base about sensor tower’s manipulation of numbers. Because trust me, the same manipulation stuffs will happen again in the next month and people will get hyped up over fake numbers once again😂

[@arkcanon1282]

Nah bro even Appmagic can't be trusted. Every website that provides mobile game revenues never gets their data from Google Play and App Store so all revenues numbers from all gacha games on their list are fake. They are using Questionable Calculation Methods and it's laughable if you check at how they do it. My advice is just don't trust mobile game revenues from 3rd party websites from now on just wait for Devs to provide it themselves if they want to.

[@io_onigiri]

it doesn't matter anyway, if they do this, that'll definitely be a really stupid move for kuro

[@AiR_Supremacy]

Waste of money to sue

[@riversofbeauty2802]

Nah,suing SensorTower would be a stupid move lol

[@tuhin1757]

@@io_onigiri well, if anything, announcing this about sensor tower on their social media will at least make all the unnecessary dramas about monthly revenue stop. Wuwa has a huge following on all of their social media accounts. So, they can do it if they wanna make it happen.

[@nicksm2976]

If Kuro is still outputting content this good even with revenue as low as these numbers suggest, then there's really nothing to be worried about. It's not like their revenue can get any worse then a patch where they gave a limited 5 star character for free.

[@TrexHydroidz1248]

so you want another Free 5*? 😋 Let's wait until Anniversary they might give us some interesting.

[@sera3718]

I do follow a lot of JP/KR streamer and I can say that in the 1.2 patch there's like little to non advertising and It's only on early days, on the other hand 1.3 ads are everywhere I've seen so many sponsored stream - content - events.

[@ywzgbf972]

Im sure it because they still busy optimizing so there no point advertise too much and 1.3 is where most issues solved

[@j4nk3n]

What "we" think is bad or good is fairly irrelevant, if a companies personal balance sheet is in the green and they are happy, then no amount of glazing or doom posting is going to change much of anything for them

[@owarida6241]

The reason why WuWa has low revenue is that players were given tons of premium currency in between events that only the monthly subscription and battle pass are the only things that are worth spending on.

[@Mr_DE_0395]

So they DO have an agenda. Always locking out revenue number for Wuwa, always having issue. No wonder I see SK posts everywhere I go, and yet the revenue doesn't reflect that, the talking is even more compare to Yinlin, the supposedly "peak" of Wuwa revenue. If SK is not making minimum 30 mil even with made up number, then I'll call it a day, that Site is full of shit. It also beg the question, would genshin actually making as much as they shown there ?

[@cliverosfield111]

what? how can she make 30 mil?? you have wuwa tacker and sk has 1/4 of day 1 changli pulls. why are you coping so hard? you don’t trust sensor tower? why won’t you go to appstore charts or check wuwa tracker day 1 pulls between changli sk jhinshi and zhezhi?

[@CzDelta92]

every game got more revenue not only wuwa and some games lost revenue too, were are the fgo fans rioting because the updated version made fate lost 1m? you can go check the japanese revenue sites and china revenue sites yourself not sensortower, shorekeeper is doing way less than yinlin, like a half of her, sensor tower is just a speculation site that has never claimed to be a gacha only site, they track bigger companies too that clap hoyo and kuro put together every month and this idiotic gacha war is barely a dent in actual bigger mobile companies lmao even with the 4m buff wuwa was still 15th and lost 3m compared to last month, wuwa was one of the games in the chart that got the biggest buff tooif the site was against wuwa why buff them that much? people complain about gachagaming too but they got sponsored by wuwa this month and was filled with pro wuwa posts during the sponsorships, people even got mad that posts against the rules stay because of the sponsor, is just disingenuous pretending every site is against wuwa when they do bad despite evidence showing the contrary, this 150m revenue is since launch not per month, people was claiming wuwa did 140m first month and now 4 months later the number is 150m in total, this shows how much it declined since launch, go look for the 140m headline at launch, so were they lying back then or are they lying now? why is people celebrating a stagnant revenue when they already claimed the same number pretty much on release

[@CzDelta92]

@@cliverosfield111 this, why is people pretending sensortower controls the internet is just a random revenue site people use to do bias confirmation, theres hundreds of revenue sites including local sites like game-i which is japanese, most western sites take japanese revenue from there including sensortower, the freeze people reported on wuwa happen on the japanese revenue site too for multiple gachas during yinlin and shorekeeper is selling less than half of yinlin rn even for japan

[@AuroraSun94]

I've been saying that! Sensory Tower has been fvcking up 3-4 times when it comes to WuWa that's why I stopped trusting them but I also realized Sensory Tower does not know the actual revenue of any gacha game

[@chelo136]

If you add all sensortower revenue it gives 130 million so much difference to the 150 million here, lol people get blind by a big numbers and dont realize they telling the same story , what agenda their differnce is like 10% between this 150 million report and sensor tower data

[@bente8927]

This has nothing to do with the video but i just get happy whenever i see love and deep space on that gacha game revenue list beautiful men are being appriciated:)

[@user-fv2yq1fl4s]

Again, money ain’t everything. This game is super rewarding and doesn’t require that much spending to get value. The fact that they can keep up is amazing but, the game doesn’t fein for money like Genshin and other games

[@setsuna7618]

fr. even devs said they dont care about profit. Idk why ppl mald over such stuff. Like just enjoy the game.

[@RavenShugo]

I spend per month in WuWa more, then in hoyo title. Heck in zzz I went full f2p. I hate fomo and scamy tactics, if Devs try to force me to spend, I will not open my wallet, but if I see Devs really trying and not stingy, then I will spend more to support them.

[@isseihyoudou1547]

​@@setsuna7618That's not true. Every company cares about money and Kuro is no different. It's not good lying or lying to yourself about a false impression. The game is decent but saying the devs don't care about money is completely false.

[@Wendy-bv8uo]

@@RavenShugo How can devs not be stingy while doing a gacha games which purpose is to milk the money from it's playerbase ?

[@RavenShugo]

@@Wendy-bv8uo compared to other gacha devs, Kuro are not bad. Hoyo is much more scammy (maybe it's my PTSD from genshin, but I do not trust them anymore)

[@thewanderingartists]

r/gachagaming on sudoku watch or in total denial after this 😂😂😂😂😂

[@arondyte318]

You mean r/hoyogaming? Watch this news be immediately deleted once someone posts about it 😂

[@Uchiimaki]

r/gachagamebias you mean? Not hoyo game = auto hate, is made by Kurogames = bad

[@CzDelta92]

you realize that even after the 4m buff wuwa got they still lost 3m compared to last month right? the entire gacha chart got a buff not only wuwa, is stupid saying sensortower is against wuwa when the revenue buff was to everyone on the chart, only a few games dropped revenue which were fgo and some others, you dont see fate fans complaining they got 1m removed from the first chart and claiming hoyo controls it, none of the games that lost revenue are crying about it, just imagine they remove 1m from wuwa instead of adding 4, would you be here claiming is an amazing success when it dropepd to 15th even after the buff? it was like 17 so it really didnt make a difference, didnt aproach to top 10 at all.

[@CzDelta92]

@@arondyte318 ??? wuwa sponsored gachagaming this month lol it was filled with wuwa posts and people got mad mods didnt delete wuwa stuff againt the rules because of the sponsorship, they even had the wuwa icon near the name of the reddit redirecting to wuwas official site, i swear to god this community looks for any excuse to shit on hoyo

[@trevOlta-c8t]

​@@CzDelta92guys we found the r/hoyogaming hoyobot😂

[@AtlasGaming-v3y]

i know app magic is more accurate than sensory tower, however sensory tower has wuwa revenue since launch at around 130million so not doing too bad, they seem to have underestimated July 46million sensory to app magic 60mil) from the looks of it but after that seem spot on. The 292% spike is good, but they did mention it was on launch day which means it was included in September's numbers which app magic has as the lowest month of revenue, so hopefully we can see this turn around in the coming months, i know I'll be spending on camellya.

[@arkcanon1282]

@@AtlasGaming-v3y it is not....Appmagic is the same as Sensor Tower and Gacha Revenue, all revenue numbers from all gacha games on their list are fake. They don't get their data from Google Play and App Store, they are using Questionable Calculation Methods to get imaginary numbers and post it as "mobile games revenue". If we want to know the truth numbers we need to hear it straight from The Developers themselves.

[@joseijosei]

I wonder why. If only there was a way to search the reason why!

[@TrexHydroidz1248]

good luck with Camellya Whale

[@CzDelta92]

thats the funny thing if you go back and check articles about the revenue youll see they parroted 140m revenue on release and now the total revenue is 150m total and they celebrate it? this means the total revenue really didnt go up by a lot isnt it is getting stagnant, also why go nuclear on sensortower then the entire chart got more money or lost money, FGO got affected the most since they lost revenue not increase it, were is the FGO fans rioting because they lost 1m, even with wuwa 4m buff they are still 15th, lost3m compared to last month and below games that got their revenue removed after the fix, so wuwa wasnt the only one affected if anything wuwa was one of the few getting a buff this big.

[@Narwhal2025]

@@CzDelta92 Dude, you are in all the comments saying the same thing, does it bother you that wuwa doesn't go to EOS? That would never happen, only an ignorant person would think that haha, look at tower of fantasy supposedly earns 1 million dollars a month and they have plenty of money to create NTE with a UE5 engine haha ​​that page never tells you the real income of each game, just assume it

[@kaloyanivanov885]

WE WANT REPLAYABLE QUESTS!!!!

[@origin5051]

Name me one game that has replayable quests.. the whole point of a quest is that its part of the games' story. You cant replay it on the same account

[@kaloyanivanov885]

@@origin5051 Every fromsoft game, bg3, skyrim, rdr2, the witcher 3, zelda, all the gta games, all the assasins creed games, all the star wars games, all the spiderman games do I need to keep going?

[@htet2002linn]

​@@kaloyanivanov885 Bro forget this is gacha game. Well anyway who knows if you ask in servay and they will implant it later

[@SaikatSaha-yk1yq]

Wuwa isn't AAA Game​@@kaloyanivanov885

[@obitormn4714]

gacha games with replayable quest? iirc PGR

[@rere7213]

sensor tower won't be liking this 😂 they have been already sus when love and deep space beat hoyo, people seem to forget how huge hoyo playerbase is, and it just beat by an otome game out of nowhere EDIT: you don't have to think too deep about this guys my point is not popularity it's the playerbase "SIZE" meaning - "in Gacha CONTEXT" Bigger playerbase = more money Smaller playerbase = less money

[@Aremyth]

Yeah, it's as though it came out... from deep space

[@worstsoulsplayer]

more popular =/= more money more p2w = more money

[@thewanderingartists]

If only people could understand that 😅​@@worstsoulsplayer

[@kaffewomble1288]

Y'all are heavily underestimating love and deepspace it's insanely popular in china That game being on top makes complete sense the graphics in that game is top tier

[@joseijosei]

AppMagic estimates revenue through a combination of download data, average revenue per user (ARPU), and market analysis, which includes examining app rankings and advertising data related to the game. You can't know which one is more accurate than the other, but it's not like they're getting extremely different results either.

[@Reinx1]

keep in mind with ur copium that the numbers shown are estimates of gross revenue. It means that id does not account for taxes, transaction fees (typically payment methods like paypal, visa, mastercard and so on will charge a flat fee of $0.30-0.50 and an additional up to 2.5% of entire transaction order as a fee), ue4 licensing fees, playstore/app store fees, EGS fees (for pc version), Xsolla fees (payment processor for pc client), there's also fees for things like bank transfers to withdraw the money they made, as well as fees to process refunds or failed transactions. if u wanted a more realistic revenue number with all that taken into consideration what you are looking for is net revenue not gross revenue. same time because of how fees work, typically speaking 1 person spending $100 once makes more net revenue than 300 people spending $1 once despite the single $100 transaction being $100 in gross revenue while the other is $300 finances are a lot messier and complicated than you can imagine

[@histambarawas-tw7nd]

I may not have paid enough attention, is 150 million only on mobile?

[@ShuraBeem]

Yes

[@Rishikkm]

@@ShuraBeem GODDAMN kuro be cooking fr fr

[@histambarawas-tw7nd]

@@ShuraBeem And I would say that's only 30% of their total revenue across all platforms, imagine how much they make from PC.

[@cheezy9307]

@@histambarawas-tw7nd i think it will be much more cuz lot of players like to play wuwa on pc

[@histambarawas-tw7nd]

@@cheezy9307 Yeah, I think so too.

[@Almine_]

i think it feel as some playerbase had less free time to be honest. Like summer is peak and then it goes down as people need to focus more on jobs or school

[@jasio1916]

If genshin try to improve their game meaning ww is probably doing great

[@Wendy-bv8uo]

I disagree, firstly, why always bringing genshin to the discussion when it's only ww related ? Also, most of those changes were not made out of a lightning strike, the devs probably thought this through, and when you look at Hoyoverse's revenues (ZZZ, HSR, Genshin) why would they improve their games because of a new game ? HSR been doing great since release, ZZZ too and Genshin is doing good too..

[@Uchiimaki]

​@@Wendy-bv8uoI ask you the same question, why are genshin players watching WuWa content if they hate it so much? You're just clowning yourself right now 🤡

[@3rikarolina]

Wuwa is not even competition for them, wdym?

[@hifumienjoyer69]

nah hoyo doesn't care about wuwa unless wuwa surpasses genshin in sales for a long period of time which is unlikely

[@Wendy-bv8uo]

@@hifumienjoyer69 Genshin/HSR been top in sales for as long as I can remember, I don't see them following a new game that didn't make that big of an impact tbf

[@canfurkangozutok]

Genshin 5.0 characters tell how much of an impact wuwa has

[@joseijosei]

Genshin 5.0 characters... tell how much of an impact WuWa has... Yeah, and Guilty Gear Strive's colab with Cyberpunk shows Street Fighter 6 is doing well... What?

[@Uchiimaki]

What impact? You mean exploration QOLs in genshin that are tied to a 5* character? They've been doing that ever since the game started. Venti made climbing easier before

[@canfurkangozutok]

@@Uchiimaki I mean the impact in terms of video game mechanics. New Genshin Impact characters basically has the same wuwa movement mechanics.

[@Red-zx3wo]

​@canfurkangozutok that's actually true I mean not hating or anything but the whole character switch and wall climbing now in the game say alot and some QOL CHANGES

[@nicksm2976]

@@canfurkangozutok They're basically trying to get back the players saying they can't go back to Genshin after playing WuWa. First Kinich with the grapple, now Xilonen with the wall running, they aren't even trying to hide it.

[@joseijosei]

Yeah, let's keep waiting for Kuro's master plan. Just... hang on there... Or you could not care, see the game isn't as popular anymore, and enjoy it anways because it's doing fine.

[@RavenShugo]

For someone, who preach to not care you sound really butthurt and triggered.

[@astr1d.x-y-z]

how is it not popular anymore? Tiktok, KZbin, Facebook, and Twitter has engagement on the same level of zzz (hoyo's new game). Even on Twitch zzz fell off already the 2 months contract between streamers might have ended lol. People were laughing at Wuwa because zzz was the newer game and it was getting more views on Twitch. But now both games fall in 1k-2k views average.

[@joseijosei]

@@astr1d.x-y-z Do you know how to read? I said it isn't as popular anymore. AS POPULAR. As popular as it used to be. ZZZ lost a lot of players too.

[@slimes724]

Only loser say more, thats a lot of haters who those is. And the W say less, thats how Kuro cook their games 😎

[@justinekyle28]

i still love wuwa 😊 MLBB as well ❤

[@YuMe_AA]

I guess playing low budget clones games is what you like then

[@GreenGuy6969]

Akihabruh💀

[@3rikarolina]

I love how after failing at beating any hoyoverse games, WuWa players somehow seems wholesome waiting for their game to become top 10 or something saying devs deserve it all the time and always repeating that it's the only game worth spending.

[@zamirroa]

Idk man, I am still made of the old wood, I only care if the good, if not, uninstall. I dont care about their earnings

[@sparko9758]

imma so go for camellya

[@lorenzopuglisi6992]

WuWa makes so much money on PC not mobile

[@arkcanon1282]

Both in 1.3 Optimization and Features for mobile are already better than 1.2 that makes so many mobile players come back playing again.

[@Morkibay]

@@arkcanon1282 true. I play on a high end phone from about 3 years ago and it runs so much better now. It actually runs smoother than my PC lol. Snapdragon 8 gen 1+ vs Ryzen 7 6000 and radeon 6070

[@AtlasGaming-v3y]

this is true for most gatcha games, hoyoverse only makes around 30-40% of their revenue from mobile.

[@lorenzopuglisi6992]

@@arkcanon1282 yes, but the majority of players are playing on PC. In my opinion the revenue from mobile players are huge.

[@lorenzopuglisi6992]

@@AtlasGaming-v3y yep

[@youarebeingfoold]

3years of playing genshin, such a copium and stress . Wuwa made it all ez.

[@ys3606]

So why did the revenue spike?

[@WastedTalent83]

but.. why would camellia be more waited than shorekeeper? XD i don't get why people are so hyped about her, she even attacked the MC , knowing it wont hurt him sure, but she attacked. :O i take it personal lol

[@floockde]

Because people are down bad and they want to fix her.

[@htet2002linn]

Because she went his/her seed. Seriously,I mean a plant seed for the greenhouse in black shore.

[@ROMVS]

She was testing Rover, not to actually hurt, but got more than she expected

[@manyblock4192]

Because "I can fix her" Kink

[@aldoleonardo220]

Because of her crazy girl personality 💀

[@nmjdf_ksd23]

Yeah they have at least a year minimum until EoS with how much they've made, 1 year more of WuWa lets gooooo

[@serinnamayberry1340]

Keep smoking that hope pipe for that EoS

[@Yotsuki10400]

Its actually Kurover lol

[@Xxxitsmehx]

Fr cutie 🥰

[@nicksm2976]

@@serinnamayberry1340 Preety sure op just means that if Kuro makes 0$ from now on they'll still be able to keep updating the game for a whole year, it's not EoSing any time soon.

[@FutayuriShironeko]

Camellya is kinda mid. Phrolova is who I'm waiting for.

[@lowkeychains]

Real

[@korodollie]

same, I'm saving up for phrolova (and she better be playable 😭)

[@admiradorderubis]

Me too

[@abankruptperson4489]

I need male characters

[@aryanugraha6965]

no Phrolova mid

[@Redmoon776]

Why suddenly kurobot so much care about revenue now,even 11.5 is still to low for overhype games and ow 3d 🤭

[@Redmoon776]

@Diegobrando14 not as kuro caring,gacha revenue war it happen since wuwa launch

[@Redmoon776]

@Diegobrando14 because how big head kurobot and kuro cc on early days,when their revenue is big and starting trashing hoyo games,and now wuwa starting to flop,that's why everyone is doomposting wuwa right now

[@Redmoon776]

@Diegobrando14 good for you think like that,yea wuwa should not get hate like that even their launch little bit disaster but they try hard to mend it And If their community can act normal like another gacha community this tribalism will never big

[@Uchiimaki]

​@@Redmoon776shut up you've been mentally online on this comment section for a day and a half already glazing on how mihoyo and genshin sucks you off every hour 😏

[@Redmoon776]

@@Uchiimaki

[@Xxxitsmehx]

Its gonna be so good when it finally starts dropping again before Wuwa EOS

[@ROMVS]

Lol

[@depressoexpresso8469]

Your tears taste so good sweetheart

[@Xxxitsmehx]

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[@depressoexpresso8469]

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[@mr.edelweiss]

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[@LTJProductionOfficial]

Sensor Tower licking Hoyoverse's butt

[@ROMVS]

Hmmm, I wonder who owns them

[@CzDelta92]

@@ROMVS wuwa was one of the many games to get extra revenue, many games lost revenue like FGO, so you are telling me someone control sensortower and buffed 90% of the chart? were are the FGO fans making a video daily about how their revenue got fixed and they lost more money, they could claim wuwa fixed the charts because wuwa got more money right? the buff they recive still made them lose over 3m compared to last month and drop to 15th, would people be celebrating if wuwa was like FGO and lost money too? losing 3m dollars compared to last month after the site buffs you 4m isnt a win at all, is still losing money tweaks to the chart or not

[@chelo136]

Sesortower wuwa total revenue is 130 million, not that different from this... like at leas use your brain to do claims, this number literally doenst change anything is the same thing sensor tower says

[@hamedori]

​@@CzDelta92 Maintaining the agenda is top priority for these blokes. Agenda: Hoyo controls the huge mass media, tries to defeat and silence Wuwa the savior.