Wuthering Waves SHOCKS PLAYERS With INSANE Revenue...

[@kazahanaedits]

Which Gacha Games are you Playing At The Moment?! (I do want to clarify for those that like to keyboard warrior) A. I Mention this is still an Estimate so don't take this information too seriously, it's just interesting to look at especially compared to other sources that people use, also this is all MOBILE revenue. B. We get it. You don't care about the revenue, just if the game is doing good - Well this proves that it's doing good monetarily C. Yes they also use algorithm's and that's why i say to not take it too seriously, but what i prefer about AppMagic is that -They have been trusted by other companies and work with Google and Apple directly using their databases. -They also don't display guess work for the Chinese Android Data (They just avoid it) -The important information that i cover in this video is Free, meaning CCs and anyone here can look at it and see how its going at any point in time rather than paying for Sensor Tower subscriptions or waiting for the chart D. It's not any better than Sensor Tower (As they make similar calculations and would be pretty similar), it's more so the Gacha Chart multipliers that make it better to look straight at the data from either Sensor Tower or App Magic. (Hope that clears it up lol) Come Follow My Twitch For More Content! www.twitch.tv/kazahanaedits

[@m_d_thp]

One caviate is the revenue is also reflected of the monetization that each specific game is like built. Because again some gacha games are more monetized over the other. It's like a no brainer that if you spent the same amount in Genshin and Wuwa. Then you are likely to got more stuff in Wuwa compared to Genshin due to the difference in their gacha system. That creates of course people not having to spent that much in the game that won't cost them as much to get what they want .

[@TheKirby222]

@@m_d_thp there same gacha system a 50/50 on char only differents is genshin has that weird 50/50 thing if you lose a pull on char banners now and wuwa has a 100% weapon banner there that same a core but slightly different be there own so idk what your going on about...

[@m_d_thp]

@@TheKirby222 Wuwa will Guarantees you the features character if you ever lost a 50/50. Wuwa's weapon banner is 100 guaranteed on pity Genshin has 50/50 character and weapon and only the "weapon" will be guaranteed through path if you ever lost the 50/50 So basically in Genshin you can end up losing 50/50 many time in row. Like do you get the difference now? Basically in Wuwa you are guaranteed the character you want for lesser pulls making people ending up spending less even for the whales. In Genshin if you are gonna whale then you will end up spending more since you really every pity in the character banner will not "guarantee you the featured character". Can you understand now, how those small difference have "big" impact on how much a person is incentivice to spend in the game?

[@TheKirby222]

@@m_d_thp That even in genshin too bro, they both wont our money there gacha games LOL they just both games doing there own way to entice you

[@brutallyhonestpikachu8250]

Wuwa and Hsr are the only ones I still play

[@j4nk3n]

The best indication of kuros revenue is the entire ramp up of effort and quality improvements across the board, other than that ill disregard any revenue numbers unless dong is showing us his actual bank account lol

[@Shellova]

It feels good to buy stuff in the shop because I know that money will go towards making the game better.

[@j4nk3n]

@Shellova yes definitely, and even as someone with disposable income iv barely spent on wuwa, literally don't need to ( but i like to, im always short of pulls by the time it comes to getting sig weapons ) , I'm usually a 1 character and sig weapon enjoyer and even sig weapon just feels like a luxury when most of the standard weapons are very good, keep cooking kuro, actions are speaking far louder than the words of these scuffed revenue guesses

[@hentikirby7142]

​@@j4nk3nI've spent like 40-60 every patch and still got every char and their weapons. Kuro is too nice.

[@24zer0nd]

yeah and there like oh look we guna align all pgr servers now that we have some extra money

[@gaobili]

CN daily players soared from about 1.5 million to 2~2.3 million, even is just an estimate by some enthusiast, it is enough to shows how crazy the camellia effect is.

[@JustJordann_]

May I ask where'd you get this info?

[@sheggy1986]

mobile revenues are not rly important when we talk about WuWa considering that most of WuWa's playerbase are from PC, i wish there was a way to calculate that part, the numbers would be so much higher.

[@Gnidel]

Too bad that people still remember bad launch on mobiles because now it runs comparatively to Genshin on my phone. They did amazing job with optimization post-launch, so I hope they will increase their mobile revenue in the future.

[@ggrimmfield5529]

​@@Gnidel I've seen too much campaign of haters that still push this "wuwa unplayable on mobile" thing to this day, they they push the agenda that GI runs on low end units which in my case is absolute bull crap coz i try GI before along side with ToF and GI runs as bad as ToF on my unit compared to how Wuwa improved through all the patches on my part. Hell wuwa for me is less laggy than what I experienced when i played GI, so seeing these Mfers spreading these fake ass complaint is cringing me the hell off 🤦‍♂️

[@ardee9337]

Can we just all agree that any other party sites or sources regardless if it shows favorable or not revenue numbers are highly inaccurate? I mean unless the developers themselves release info about their real revenue(which they won't) all are just guesstimates and should not be taken seriously.

[@justinjamin]

You can work with inaccurate data as long as the inaccuracies are consistent. If there's a pattern, you can deal with it. This is what professionals do in data science and analytics. You are not looking at the numbers themselves; you are trying to get the trends. Trends will still hold value even if the numbers aren't accurate.

[@Deus_Star]

2.0 IS GONNA BE LIT!!!

[@NutMaster3000-z8c]

Who cares about revenue? I’m just here to play wuwa

[@Noobish_]

More revenue means higher quality experiences, so..

[@oneplay5570]

@@Noobish_ sounds like greed to me

[@Noobish_]

@@oneplay5570 needing money to sustain more resources is greedy?!

[@24zer0nd]

@@Noobish_ lol look at hoyoslop

[@Takato2527]

More revenue = higher quality? Huh? So you're saying Madden is getting better over time?

[@deeptobhattacharyya3249]

WuWa needs Russian and Portugese subs and itll grow in Latin america and RUssia

[@yashaggarwal4632]

If it did make around 15-20m just from mobile and that's just 15 days of cameliya been out and other stuff i think its a win bro with single chara banner with no 50/50 on weapon banner is quite good i think.. what do u guys think? And all an all we can see game improving so i think they are making more than enough not to just sustain the game but making great changes and satisfying there players,employees and investors w kuro! apparently wuwa made around 30-35 m from cameliya.. i have nothing to say lmao

[@nmjdf_ksd23]

Yes for how cheap S6R5 is, as you can buy 2 copies with corals, and also no 50/50 on weapon, it's very good but haters only get their metrics on what a successful game is from "hoyo". Ironically, with the amount of revenue they earn, the proportion of money and effort put in is not evident.

[@yashaggarwal4632]

@@nmjdf_ksd23 i agree i hope wuwa get the recognition it deserves in future

[@Rain_Call]

Shame that Kuro still ignores the Russian localization of the game, due to the lack of an official translation into Russian, Wuva almost does not pop up anywhere in the information field, except for fan groups, where there are a lot of players who can't get information anywhere except these groups (Twitter is blocked), unlike from the game Hoyovers, there are multimillion groups in our social network and a lot of players spend money on the Genshin HSR or ZZZ, I really hope that the Russian language will be added in version 2.0, otherwise they will not be able to fully compete with mastadont Hoyovers

[@Havczz]

Probably gonna take some times

[@TopTOBiiiii]

I hope they add Arabic too man we've been asking for it pre-launch

[@shuryt]

If ZZZ revenue = Wuwa in the next monthly pvp, the doom poster will have to do some mental gymnastic to justifies wuwa dying and EOS soon and continue to say ZZZ is thriving. I think both do fine but it will be funny nonetheless. Hoping you will continue to inform us with you app, I tried it but it's behind a paywall and I'm broke :(

[@nmjdf_ksd23]

The cope i've seen so far is that people are "saving for Miyabi"

[@Machina1177]

​@@nmjdf_ksd23 i still remember when people said burnice gonna make a ton of money because crazy hype but in reality burnice is the worst performing zzz banner in history💀

[@24zer0nd]

i think wuwa passing zzz for sure, ive seen content creators droping the game, dont get me wrong zzz wont die it just seems to be falling off pretty hard.

[@24zer0nd]

@@nmjdf_ksd23 stix had an interesting interaction type video miyabi's official post got its doors blown off by wuwa

[@mlwlan]

​@24zer0nd yeah ive seen that. Wuwas posts are getting alot more traffic on thr upcomming chars especially Zani. Almost double the ammount of views ofer miyabi or whatever her name is.

[@nmjdf_ksd23]

Probably 18mill for this month pretty good for 1 banner

[@shawnlex3024]

Feels illegal to be here so early😂😂💔

[@lnfernoRider]

Checking this video since I want my Shell Credits back

[@arkcanon1282]

Sensor Tower again.... Edit: Oh Appmagic, it's in the same veins as Sensor Tower LMAO

[@crisadriancruzat5428]

Hope things will be better for Wuwa! 🤞👌

[@JoLoAn135]

I kid you not, some other channel just stole your thumbnail 1:1. I thought it was yours but it is a channel who's videos are just Kuro slander.

[@kazahanaedits]

Yep, saw that LMAO

[@zardon_zane1630]

So now we are using different apps for revenue tracking?

[@AnsonCarter-q1o]

Its the same exact rounded off to the nearest 6th or 7th digit rough estimates that Sensor Tower does only seemingly even more hard rounded off so worse and hes drawing the conclusions he wants to out of it over one game again

[@zardon_zane1630]

@@AnsonCarter-q1o Same shit, different app, gotcha

[@kazahanaedits]

I mean this won't be a common thing here, but it will be interesting to see how the different sources add up

[@zardon_zane1630]

I know youtubers make this for content and they need it so now using a different website could do it, but, lots of people are starting to despise this kind of thing, if it works, keep on it, just be careful, this is just my opinion as a random viewer.

[@RangoBongo]

Speaking of collabs, I really hope wuwa does Nier collab. Kuro already had a collab with Nier in PGR if I'm not mistaken. II don't know how IP things work but I hope they can get the rights for it again for wuwa.

[@Wrathdg]

50th person also it kinda saddens me that a lot of genshin player gave up on the game so easily i mean this game has probably been the most fun i have had in a while

[@Doro-bashi]

ALLEGEDLY... Those things about revenue are speculation yet

[@corinna-s2h]

Get those votes for wuwa in caused I want my free limited 5 star and why that cause pokemon tcg scaring me to death and zzz is just there I guess...like it but hoyoverse don't give u nothing

[@Waiting4G3shuLin]

I don't really think it'll ever be a fair comparison by looking at any of these revenue charts since a huge chunk of players use PC - and (as we know) that revenue isn't taken into account. Obviously, there are also PC players for other games too - but most agree that Wuwa is better optimised for PC.

[@IronRuffnek]

Gave Kuro $400 they gave me s3 camellya and sig weapon for trade or no?

[@tabkg5802]

Sensor tower believers in shambles

[@eddieboston6540]

sensor tower was fine but once wuwa came out then it was called fake.

[@tabkg5802]

@eddieboston6540 the reason why it's called "fake" doesn't matter when it being fake is true regardless of WuWa

[@johncardboard4624]

Nikke is going to be on the top even above all the hoyo games this month Can't wait to see those soy faces on thumbnails 😂

[@OnlyFairyWings]

Let’s be realistic: live-service games like gachas can’t survive on $10 million a month, especially considering the quality WUWA delivers. They produce videos, create characters, develop abilities, market in China, build new maps, and so on. Simply put, all those revenue charts are fake. They’re just made for clicks, and it wouldn’t surprise me if Hoyoverse paid those sites to report inflated numbers like $50 million or $90 million, while other gachas are shown with $5 or $10 million-even Tower of Fantasy. They claimed ToF made $150,000... What game could survive on numbers like that? For that kind of revenue, it would have to be a simple game with minimal graphical needs, like AFK Arena or Monopoly. It’s clear WUWA is generating substantial income to provide the level of quality we’re getting.

[@eddieboston6540]

holy brainrot hoyoverse doesn't have to lie

[@rayman17420]

The whole fanboy pvp over the revenue of the games they prefer has always been stupid. Not just because the numbers are never close to being accurate (at best theyre a metric that helps players know if a game is at least successful enough to not go EoS or is so bad that the EoS is inevitable). Ofc i have no idea how much a game like wuthering waves costs each month in terms of new development and upkeep, but i have to imagine a couple of mil is more than enough. Also anything over $15 or $20 mil a month for the top 10 to 15 games is more an indicator of how predatory a games monetization is rather than if its a good game or not. Youre not hitting $100 mil+ in 1 month because the games SO good players are airdropping you bandos. No its because the gacha system is so predatory and frustrating that players are forced (or addicted) to spend to just get a character and their weapon, nvm if theyre someone who feels they need to max them out as well (and thats not 100% any devs fault, as personal responsibility is a thing however shadey and predatory monetization tactics dont help the situation amd btw Kuro uses them in WuWa just to a much lesser extent). Like WuWa isnt even the most generous game on the market by a fair measure, the 50/50 system alone puts games like Snowbreak, Aether Gazer, and especially their other game PGR (to name a few) way ahead of WuWa when it comes to the player-friendliness of the gacha system. They all offer a 100% guarenteed weapon AND character banner. The pity is a bit higher but upping an 80 pity by 20 but its 100% for the new unit is more than a fair trade off

[@nicksm2976]

100% Agreed, but just for the heck of it... I didn't play Snowbreak or Aether Gazer so idk about the gacha in those games, but in PGR you only have a 0.5% (1 in 200) chance of getting an S-rank omn on each pull while in WuWa you have a 0.8% (1 in 125) chance of getting a 5* character/weapon and WuWa gives a higher quantity of pulls compared to PGR, which means there is a much higher chance to get lucky in WuWa compared to PGR (unless you're willing to take a risk pulling on the gamba banner with higher hard pity). I don't know the exact math to say which one is truly better and I am totally biased tho because I always went to hard pity in PGR while in WuWa I got a 5* in my first ten pull on a banner three times already (once for Encore, Yinlin's weapon and Changli's weapon). I rarely went to hard pity but I did lose every single one of the four 50/50s I had tho :( Hitting a 0.8% chance:🗿ez Winning 50/50: 😭😭

[@mistress3847]

FIRST - nvm there's 4 likes already

[@SHAW_777]

Skill issue but gg

[@daniyardaniel1755]

They are cooking every patch , that is all i care and i suppurt them till they don't .

[@AnsonCarter-q1o]

Lol this source is even worse than Sensor Tower but whatever dude 😅

[@sojirou.k]

appmagic is quite used more than sensortower itself but they're similar

[@AnsonCarter-q1o]

@sojirou.k They're both still going to indicate roughly the same data that the game hes looking most to analyze made between 10 and 20 million in November. Sensor Tower will likely try to indicate how much more that works out to than last month which is tricky because its comparing the dead first half of the month where it was out of the charts entirely even in China and Japan with the 2nd half that did better than any banner since version 1.1. Main difference is Sensor Tower will round off to the nearest million instead of the nearest 10 million which is even more useless data here

[@arkcanon1282]

​@@sojirou.kis the same as Sensor Tower bro.

[@CassandraSunshyne]

🙌🏻🥂💜

[@toxicdumplings2814]

so why do we care about revenue again?

[@justinekyle28]

😊😊