WuWa's Story Quests Have Some Issues

[@saintontas]

If you don't think this change is necessary, put yourselves in the shoes of a returning player. You just pulled the new limited character, but you can't use them until you complete 5-6 hours of backlogged story quests. Would that make it hard for you to enjoy the game and story?

[@No_ex_]

I think it will have a QoL in the future, just add the feedback on the next current patch survey.

[@Skweanky]

Fair point

[@midwestairway]

The bosses can be expedited maybe, so you can farm their Matt's, but the ability to skip the story is now like an amendment " the right to be able to skip the story shall not be infringed on" lol

[@Bakemer94]

Gives more incentive to keep playing. If everything is unlocked off rip, that doesn't give people much reason to do the story at all.

[@darkdruidsvale]

@@Bakemer94 as a genshin player im 50/50 on this take, well yes it gives incentive it is annoying if you take a break for a version or 2 (especially after some "dead" versions where all there is are character reruns and minor events) and then need to track down where you unlock a certain boss one major one i can think of off hand is the APEP which is unlocked after Nahida's second story quest, if your rusty at the menu navigation you may not have realized that there are new story quests and had just started doing any random backlogged quests in the Sumeru region hoping to unlock it by doing that, with the dreaded Aranara questline and the great but lengthy story line with the Genie being in this list of backlogs, thats a LOT of boring stuff to start doing, and thats assuming you didnt have main story content like Fontaine or even left over Sumeru or Dainsleif stuff to do

[@blanc-2468]

I'mma be honest with you, I don't really feel any frustration over the fact that bosses are locked til the end of the story, but I do understand that approach, the way I see it, is that when I realized the Fallacy was story locked. I didn't feel the need to skip anything, but rather to put all my focus on the story rather than farming or fighting random mobs, I genuinely have yet to even find a reason to skip anything, and knowing the boss is at the end of that amazing story just helped me to stay locked in as I clear it at a reasonable pace. But in the end this is just how i feel.

[@miggycanz9388]

the irony of don't rush the story but complaining they can't max the new character instantly 😂

[@darkdruidsvale]

thats a good take, though he did bring up the players who where banking on Shorekeeper to get through the Tower and had a 24h time limit biting their ass the whole way through

[@Sakaki98]

@@miggycanz9388 That is not a “gotcha” moment. HSR proves you can have both.

[@miggycanz9388]

@@Sakaki98 not all gacha is the same what moment are u talking about 😂

[@salimpradhan3248]

Same I agree with ya.

[@OmegaBladeAlpha]

I personally would never skip the story for any reason. I suffered the delay to building her gladly.

[@saintontas]

In a best case scenario you shouldn't need to choose between enjoying the story or enjoying Shorekeeper in endgame content

[@Sakaki98]

@@saintontas ^^^

[@WanshiLucidDreamer]

Why delay bro? I finished whole story in 4-6 hour in one day. It wasn't that long

[@Senko1800]

​​@@WanshiLucidDreamerNot everyone has 4-6 hours to spare in one day dude 😂. Yes it could be over multiple days but 6 hours of story is pretty long .

[@WanshiLucidDreamer]

@@Senko1800 I just like finishing story day 1 and chilling for the rest of version by exploring and farming. But that's just how I play a gacha. I pointed this cuz a normal game provides more content than a gacha game's update. That's why I said it's not that long.

[@haru_takahashi24]

I don't get why ppl rush story just for gear and in the end they complain about content to do... Great thinking Just take it slow you'll hit a wall anyway with weekly bosses!

[@Sakaki98]

The fact you HAVE to rush the story to get to the gear when, in the two are separate in most mobile games and live service games in general is the problem. Props to talking past the problem and blaming the player, though. I’m sure there’s a world out there where misrepresenting legitimate feedback is healthy community conduct 👍

[@FreuRozen]

​@@Sakaki98the boss is literally use shorekeeper as it core. So you need to do the story first to make the boss born in life

[@sethstephenperalta8591]

I think kuro should just delay the release of new resonators so this makes players to just chill and play through the storyline. Then have tower resets after idk a week or so after the release of resonator. Im not sure if this is true for others but I’ve cleared every TOA before shorekeeper. Even then the game is beatable with any fully built main dps character. Time to time i would get 2/3 stars on stage 4 but thats literally skill issue like failing rotations, wrong dodge time, misclick, slow in the head, etc. I never once had a problem with my characters being weak when fully maxed. I was a f2p until I realized i should get xiangli yao weapon cuz of lack of weapon crit in the game rn.

[@oraengae]

​@@Synocra I don't think it's about the echo, I think it's about the fact that you can't ascend her. But I do get it, I think they should make it available to fight at least a certain amount of times for newer players. My friend started playing and pulled SK, and she's so busy and fond of storylines that she will not rush to get the mats despite not having even Verina. So yeah I do get it, something a bit like HSR would be nice

[@midwestairway]

People who don't care about the story will skip it, i remember my fingers hurting from spammin through the text in genshin just to get it over with. People who are against players playing the game they want to play it, are infringing on others right to enjoy the game. Its very simple, if you want to watch the full story, do that, if you dont, you can skip. This discussion has been settled a long time ago.

[@saintontas]

It's ironic that you say this, because if a player wanted to play the game how they wanted (i.e., using shorekeeper in endgame content), they HAD to go through the entire story. I'm not entirely sure what you're arguing against here.

[@midwestairway]

@saintontas oh I think that the characters trial should give you enough of the boss material to get your characters to level 50 "3 of the boss material " and level 50 is enough for the overworld and quests and regular play. Then the choice is yours, take it easy and watch the story , or if that's not your thing, you can skip through and just get a general idea about what's going on. As for veteran players, its the same thing. The game should give 3 of the boss material to get the new characters to lvl 50, and from there you play the way you like .

[@FreuRozen]

​@@saintontasI love your content all this time. But with this kind of argument I'm so sorry to say. That you are like refusing the fact a lot of people did not find it troublesome. But you push this problem like everyone is in danger. At least admit it that not everyone having this problem. Some player are immersive and some are competitive. Your argument is ruining immersion of the player if you letting player to fight the boss before story and yet you argue about the freedom of choice.

[@saintontas]

@@FreuRozen I'm not entirely sure how I'm refusing anybody anything. It's a problem that exists for players, and the solution doesn't take anything away from other players, it only streamlines the process for those who don't want to commit to the full story before using the new character. You even say yourself that some players are immersive and others are competitive. If you're competitive and want to enjoy the story, you can't. How does giving a player an option 'ruin immersion'?

[@saintontas]

@@midwestairway So, what happens if somebody want to use shorekeeper in the tower ASAP but also want to take it easy and watch the story later? Why are people so against giving others options to enjoy the content how they want to enjoy it? I'm seeing a lot of people who personally had a great experience, and everything suggested in this video would take nothing away from their experience, and only add to other people's.

[@nekochan4280]

Guys, guess what? Today, I've officially uninstalled genshin and I've never feel this liberated before. It feels good

[@SwiftSN]

7:30 I want to clarify how most cinematics work in this game. Unlike its competitor, Genshin, WuWa's cutscenes are *not* pre-rendered. The majority of them are done in real-time, barring a few that need a little more fidelity. As a result, they can't be easily accessed and replayed like a lot of other games, and definitely do not take up nearly as much space. The animations and scenery would have to be quickly loaded in and out at the player's input in order to replay story cutscenes. I'm not a dev, but I'm sure there are some roadblocks there.

[@ChaseYu]

🤣 no frustration at all. I just don’t get people nowadays! 🤷‍♂️

[@anhtaiang6434]

Well u know in this world anything can happen haha. What is suffer customer management hahaha

[@Xyoni_htklv]

Who the heck skips the story? 80% of the new patch content is tied to the narrative, and people want to rush through to play 5% of the content? I’m sorry, but if you skip the story just to play TOA, you’re just missing out. It’s really a dumb move.

[@endcorruption993]

You can always watch the cutscenes on KZbin.

[@LaplaceBacklogs]

Agreed. The devs literally put more effort making the overworld and the bosses and the STORY/LORE most of all. To skip it just because you want to get to leveling up your characters is just so stupid to me. My priorities for all gacha games is literally the story. If the story sucks, then I’d rather not play the game at all. As a player, you’re free to prioritize whatever you want. But if you’re skipping the story, then I’m just wondering why you’re even playing the game in the first place. The weekly resets are here to stay. It doesn’t hurt to skip one reset of your weeklies. But a story? You can only experience it once.

[@TuanLe-gl4yt]

@@endcorruption993 No. You cant the immersion build up form the intro quest to endding though youtube

[@xXRubenzgzXx]

Can't say I relate to any of this xD I finish the story and if I like the character in the story then I pull for them. I learned from GI that you can't get obsessed with these games, gotta try to enjoy the updates calmly. Am I the minority here? :D PD: After playing PGR, WuWa's lore drops are pretty much a walk in the park to understand xD

[@anormalguy8407]

Yeah can't relate, maybe they shouldnt be banking on the new character to do their last levels in tower in the last 24 hours, also the new 3 new hard towers don't have a time limit so why the rush.

[@piquants2830]

The fact that wuwa developers actually listen, I don't think this issue will be a problem with the next area expansion.

[@Professional_garbage]

I hate how gacha games present stories as long, boring conversations

[@vmsc199]

It’s cheap slop that they can churn out every other month. Every minute of yapping and reading text is a minute they save money on animating. It’s a recurring method in almost every gacha out there. Byproduct of live service i guess

[@ExDik1]

Story is important to gain their players to play again the game 🤣 Genshin lore is interesting than wuwa , wuwa story is boring but let's see in the future what kuro can do ,

[@ilegitcookie]

I've been enjoying the spectacle behind their animated cutscenes and camera work along with the music for the story. I'm not usually a story enjoyer, but at the very least its a lot more digestable (post 1.0, anyway) because it minimizes a lot of the time you're just staring at characters standing in a circle talking to one another. Definitely feel a lot more "show, don't tell" in the recent WuWa stories than before, it helps with the good amount of cinematics and good music that they attach to the scenes. Not that there isn't a lot of exposition happening, but its definitely not as incredibly slow paced as before, which is always a nice sign. And at the very least, if you're truly uninterested in what's happening on the screen, the skip button exists to save your time and let you continue playing the game (a godsend)

[@Gamersway321go]

@@ExDik1 have you like played anything after 1.0 in wuwa ? just curious .-.

[@ExDik1]

@@Gamersway321go I'm day 1 player UL 71 and UL 70 I have 2 Lucky accounts but wuwa CBT is much better than official

[@eduardopastoriz]

Sounds to me that people just want to build characters and don't wanna play the game itself. It's kind of weird, because after rushing everything just to build a character, there's nothing else to do but wait for the next patch and do all over again for a new character. Maybe some players should slowdown a bit and just enjoy the game. 🤔

[@saintontas]

wanting to build shorekeeper before her story isn't "not wanting to play the game". the video is entirely focused on providing an alternative to rushing to build a character. I'm not entirely sure where you're getting this idea from at all.

[@jamin3131]

Im definitely one of those pkayers that doesnt want to rush a story to level a character. Still took my time but also wanted to optimize my farming. Thankfully not too keen on toa so it wasnt a big rush

[@ChaffleWadapon]

"This is a matter of reading comprehension" - Eichiro Oda

[@nottyseel949]

Since I want to be the sole supporter of WuWa's revenue and future development, I do not want Kuro to cater to anyone's experience but my own.

[@saintontas]

lmfao

[@aaronmorgan5860]

Not getting Storekeepers ascension material early in the game did not impact my run in Tower of Adversity. Each week I plan out which characters should get the boss materials to help clear 30/30 of Tower of Adversity. Even if you had the opportunity to build up Shorekeeper early you most likely still needed to build up other characters like baizhi for the Overdrive Zone.

[@einjhell]

What i do is rush the game and just watch my fav streamers do the story and eating while watching so i enjoy it more😊

[@dwrzd]

As player who play 45mins to 1hr . Per day and finish the main story for 4 days and i still like it 😂❤

[@rrron]

chill guys, clearing hazard tower gives like 2 pulls max

[@baeber]

ngl I hate the tower of adversary I would prefer if it weren't there haha

[@MinKiu410]

You can just skip it if you dont like it

[@trapsad8541]

Tower of adversity gives 5 pull

[@dainou0001]

Nice video as always. Keep it up! Edit: I really appreciate your ability to pinpoint problems in a constructive and clear manner. You put my thoughts into words perfect. Of course there are some points of criticism I have towards the newest story, specifically regarding pacing, but that is not similar to the fundamental issues addressed in this video. I have seen many people really enjoying the pacing of 1.3 and we are all entitled to our own opinions. I believe that finding these issues and reporting on them such as you do with this video, we can help improve WuWa to the game it definitely deserves to be. As Dong mentioned during the 1.3 live stream, if we don't report on issues, the game won't improve.

[@Lakituish]

Honkai star rail has a feature that allows new players to access materials for farming even before you get to that point in the story. For example when I started playing I was able to farm Penacony items for my sparkle even though I was still in Belobog

[@webdevessentials]

I remember the pain of getting my ass handed to me by Aventurine before I could access the new relics in Penacony

[@Lakituish]

@@webdevessentials I'm pretty sure the feature was only for Ascension and trace materials but not relics

[@webdevessentials]

@@Lakituish no I wanted to do the new event or farm the new relics but I couldn't do either without beating him first

[@trgr123]

That make sense. Especially when you are a new player and you to go through the entire main story just to unlock the boss nad build your pulled character (Shorekeeper). I agree, Early access to boss would be nice.

[@ronron_gaming]

replayable quest is much better than forcing us to watch it and waste our time

[@arthuryu8298]

I am the opposite. I found inferno rider's story incredibly underwhelming when they hype it up well after I've been farming it for chang-li's grind. If they continue to freely give access to bosses like that then I hope they would add some sort of proximity feature that warns me that this boss is part of a story sequence and set the tracker for that quest. Edit: That way I can choose whether I want to fight the boss first or if I want to see the story behind the boss first before just not caring and grinding.

[@saintontas]

Would you have preferred being unable to level Changli at all until you completed the story quest?

[@arthuryu8298]

​@@saintontas A bit of both. I'd be annoyed that I pulled a character that I can't level unless I reach a certain point in the story. But I also understand that if they were locked behind a region specific to chang-li because it would add to her character.

[@gsksbdb9988]

As a returning player, I agree with this. This was one of my problems with Honkai: Star Rail where I quit for a few months due to not having a device strong enough to handle the game's size and performance properly and now I am unable to access key character relic farms because it is locked behind areas that can only be accessed by going through the story. This is made so much worse because HSR does not have a skip button. But of course, some relics can serve as an alternative, but not as effective as some relic sets. As for WuWa, same situation and I quit just right after 1.1 released. However, even with my limited device capabilities, I managed to run the game long enough to do a couple of pulls and I got Changli (won the 50/50). I came back now and got Shorekeeper by winning the 50/50 as well. However, both my Changli and Shorekeeper are unable to unlock ability upgrades that required Jué's weekly materials since I havent done the whole 1.1 main quest yet and as such, Shorekeeper also cant get past level 40. I dont have enough time in my day to do all the quests and since I am invested in the story and want to experience it myself, I dont want to use the skip button. What a predicament.

[@darkdruidsvale]

doesnt HSR have a temp access thing now? (though its non existent for weekly's i know that much from my firefly)

[@gsksbdb9988]

@darkdruidsvale for the ascension materials. I havent played the new update now but for the relics I am not so sure

[@naufalsyauqifillah6388]

The lock boss are not even a problem for me, the most trouble that i have that they didnt add batch fighting in any farming mode that made me insane dude 😂

[@Silmerano]

This video reminded me of the wall running portal part in the story that was pretty cool.

[@Druso04]

I believe we should just have an option to use the systhesis system to exchange our materials to different ones we might need i believe that would be a simple solution to it

[@pedromiguel2929]

One of the biggest problems with story quest 1.3 is the bosse' lack of health, this is a recurring problem where many players will not find a battle intriguing or fun because the boss has almost no health and can't even show its movset. This is a problem we didn't have in cbt1. In cbt1 the bosses were difficult doing a lot of damage and had a large health pool, but when you died you would instantly revive to full health as if nothing had happened, in cbt2 they take away the revive and make fights much easier, with a small health pool and bosses that did not do any damage, which destroyed the experience for many players, as it is much more difficult to balance cbt2 system with all the characters, buildings and different players in terms of skill. I really hope the boss battles in story mode go back to what they were in cbt1, whether everyone had skill issues or not they could have fun and enjoy the battle while learning the boss movset

[@Reversely]

I mean it would probably be added in the future similar to the other games (You'll unlock the boss material without doing the quest)

[@golden_heart2550]

Kuro devs wanted responses and reviews from players we should bring this to their attention : D

[@tonys202]

the one thing i noticed is that the new boss is technicaly closed in its own arena, its possible kuro might create "boss arenas".. maybe "boss forgery" that would give you a way to acces those bosses? they should also make something for the ascension materials, like an npc that would sell you to them refilling like.. weekly Also its weird how in genshin players beg for a skip button while here it ended up being a downside

[@Tamer55361]

Incredibe how you manage to nail every single video on the spot. I hope you grow very big, you deserve it.

[@MauveButterfly]

I can definitely see this being an issue for new players down the line. When I started Genshin Impact it was during a Raiden/Yoimiya rerun and some people were saying not to bother getting Inazuma characters as a new player because I wouldn't be able to build them. (I got Yoimiya anyway and haven't regretted it.) I'm wondering if I'm in the minority of players here or if it's just a vocal minority who do this, but I've never seen the appeal of pre-farming for a character or trying to max them out day 1. I like having long-term goals for my main characters, so I intentionally don't rush their development and spend a lot of resources on other characters so I can mess around with all of them. Level 70 with level 1 talents and 4-star weapons is more than sufficient to clear all non-endgame content anyway, so unless you really live for Tower of Adversity or Hologram bosses, you don't actually need to even build characters in this game. I only leveled Chixia, my main DPS, to 80 because of that event that required leveling characters to 80 for some material rewards. The only character I've tried to max out in this game is Encore, and that's because I already had some good fusion echoes and I wanted a character for co-op that was able to contribute at least somewhat to the team damage. I specifically didn't pick my main for this, since I want to enjoy making Chixia better for a while still.

[@treopl]

I never really found that as a problem so far while I was playing Genshin. I skipped whole 1.0 ver till the first Raiden Shogun banner. I haven't pulled for "newest" characters at the time and instead I decided to go with reruns which was a right decision at the start, regardless if Yoimiya or Raiden Shogun were hot to me at the time. However, I think for these type of players there should be a limited amount of runs for bosses. For example, you can go and fight Shorekeeper's boss and farm materials up to you get certain ascension to, let's say, level 60 so that you gain access to certain level of upgrades for talents and runs. Open world materials like, flowers can be bought normally through certain vendors like we have now at the moment. But if you want to upgrade Shorekeeper to the max level, you need to progress through the story or just venture into that region and discover that boss to unlock it. I don't think there would be a better solution for the problem than this.

[@webdevessentials]

Genshin is now doing that with its 5.0 update. If you complete a characters story quest in a limited time, you get materials to level them upto 60

[@TheGarner0]

Story replay would also be great. Maybe even hard mode story?

[@B0b-k3r]

The defense system was locked behind a quest for lore reasons. I'm sure other bosses will just be in new areas. I remember this same argument about inzauma in genshin

[@nikhilramawat2611]

Fun fact even as level 40 seedkeeper i was able to clear new zone with no problem Yes the buff were low but it's still equal to my verina And i never rush a story

[@RansaMPratyaya]

Thanks for reminding me to put Calamity and Overlord class material exchange in the next feedback. While it isn't a big problem yet, I absolutely hated that there are 4-stars in that /other game/ that are in the gacha but require materials only unlocked by completing the story. And if it's possible Wuthering Waves might face a similar problem, I would like Kuro to nip it in the bud.

[@akmalahmad2365]

I agree with u so much. I want to use my new Shorekeeper in the story but why the heck do I need to finish the story first to get her ascension material. When the story is done, there wasn’t much content left.

[@jocelreloncillo8093]

nice vid. its good if they'll add some story replay so we get to experience it again but with the limited storage for *ehem* mobile players like me it might sound too much. but with major patches like 1.3 i chose not to skip it to allow the build-up from the story then i farm the heck out of a new boss if its needed. only prob i see with 1.3 was that they updated on a Sunday which is right before the toa reset. so hopefully kuro will find a balance on these things and allow all to enjoy the story without sacrificing the boss mats grind til the end of it.

[@EnjoyGengar]

You are right when i pulled shore keeper i relised i can't use her in new story because she is new mats locked.

[@chrollotrollo]

I quit WuWa when I lost Changli to Calcharo and returned solely because of Shorekeeper, and I must say not being able to max her out after basically waiting for eternity to play her kind of sucks. Don't get me wrong, I love love love 1.3 msq and I think it will hold a special place in my heart (just like the Firefly update for HSR). I really like videos like this because it gives Wuthering Waves opportunities to improve. For me healthy constructive criticism is always welcome - it just shows how much you love the game even more because you want it to be better every single patch release. You earned another subscriber!

[@naeemashrafkhan9032]

The boss fight in story could be harder as well. If They can do something like different modes for casual and hardcore players similar to what hsr did recently.

[@jhero1888]

Getting delayed leveling he up doesn’t matter to me, i love her story

[@tae.lne3]

valid feedback my dude, for Fallacy of no return putting him at the very end was not a smart decision. however it's hard to do the same for Jue or Dreamless because it's the main focus of the story, and letting us fight them early on will 100% spoil the story. Imo they should allow us to temporary use a trial version of any character that we have, about level 80, in open world. Not only will it solve the issue with this but also let players feels how that character can be played in open world before committing on building that character. Best we can do is give them feedback on the matter and let them decide what's best. Keep up the work, dont let these bots tell you that you can only praise wuwa but cant criticize it. We can trust the dev on fixing bugs and releasing new updates but we has to let them know that problem like these will affect the players experience. As someone once said "Players are good on finding problems, but you can't trust them for finding solutions"

[@peacechan4500]

They kinda can pull a hsr. Put the material in a generic boss arena and pick the new one you wanna fight there. if you unlock it you can go there. And fight it in the world.

[@theolailheugue9402]

Simple solution : add this suggestion in the survey.

[@dimirsleeper]

Yeah, I'm one of those players who likes to use the new characters in the patch story they're in, so it was kind of a bummer not to be able to use a built up Shorekeeper. It def made me not procrastinate doing the MSQ though. Haha But yeah, it'll be extra frustrating for new players coming in for character reruns in later patches if they have to go through so much MSQs before they can access those materials.

[@renndunggio4295]

Idk about other players wuwa in other region But from me as a indonesia player that l playing wuwa when the first patch, already send feedback for dev to give us Indo language.. I believe the majority of indo players do the same things like me. Some of them just leave or quite that I can't blame them too.. Don't even think to enjoy it.. to understand the story we need to ceck it in google translate for some words.. I hope the dev will give us Indo language someday, I just want it even that I never use skip button. I love the story especially 1.3 For Scorekeeper things the mats in the boss it's lock and for the quest I think its not really big deal it just my opinion yh..

[@webdevessentials]

I am one of those people who didnt skip through the story, also doesnt care for Shorekeeper as a unit since I dont have Verina built either 😂😂😂 My disappointment comes mostly from how the end of Jinzhou arc left me excited for Black Shores, but when it finally dropped, I wasnt as excited. I definitely noticed the facial expressions and the voice acting felt better. Think it was already smoothed out in 1.2. But as you said, it left me with more questions than answers. Im still struggling to get to level 40, let alone deal with TOA. Im saving up for Jiyan and hopefully his weapon after winning Yinlin, Changli and Zhezhi since the game dropped. Great video. Keep it up

[@TechyCatz]

I love your channel. I rushed through the story when I didnt want to.

[@Illuminautable]

I mean, as someone who's literally playing WuWa for the characters and story beats, I have not problem with the boss being locked behind the story completion...because I was always gonna see it through, regardless. However, there exists a component of players who aren't really interested in the lore of the game and are just here for the challenge. That's totally valid. I think in future, access to the boss for material drops should be available from the get-go, with say, some sort of teleport function, but also with the caveat that 'hey, if you do this without playing the story, you're gonna spoil yourself. Big time.'

[@StepDogy]

Locked behind story is less problem,we can see how many creators posting about new Inferno rider impossible hologram to beat I couldn't too) and now imagine "casual" mobile players trying to do this even with lower stage! People usually don't understand how big really is mobile casual or pro gaming part in games and how much more money Wuthering waves would get if mobile version was easier to play!

[@NijikaDoritoB]

The only way we can do that. Is to submit a feedback until they read it.

[@habilpratamaid9009]

started patch 1.3 on weekend is really good for me, i have lot of time on sunday and for whole day experiencing the game, so im part of enjoying a game with locked story while already 30/30 ToA

[@JaeminKim-qo2os]

I have been asking for this since Day 1!!!! lol

[@Glicole_]

yea I skipped the story to get the echo then later I watch streamer play it to experience the story

[@khevvillacruz1237]

Jué was a weekly boss & Fallacy is a world boss but i can agree that it shouldn't be lock until the story is unveiled since it's a world boss, also it's not bad either for me even there's a skip button still i can understand the story itself unlike the other game that we know force you to go through all those yapping with no substance at all(I'm more focused on clicking so the yapping will be faster and at the end I didn't understand the story ahahaha). verdict,still I'm satisfied even that boss needs to be unlocked after the story, we are not rushing anyway as if there's a competition(everything can be speedrun even that story, thank god there's a skip & summary, you will not miss out).

[@muhammadimaduddinsaid5431]

Great video as always.❤ Just want to leave some of my opinion here. Regarding early access boss, I also think that is a great idea, allowing player to get boss materials without forcing players to skip story is a big QoL that I'll definitely put on the survey/feedback. I also hope that it will stop people complaining about not understanding the story and lore because they are forced to skip story. (This last bit is personal, but if someone make a conscious decision to skip the story because they don't care about it yet still complaining about it, you and I will have problem.)

[@Faust227]

I absolutly forgot about the reset of that tower 😅😅 damn won't happen again. But i don't have regrets, i played the story slower to enjoy it, despite only having 1 healer at that time (Baizhi).

[@DeJaVu804]

I agree with making the ascension boss at the very end of the story poorly thought out. I felt rushed to try to get to it wanting to level up Skeeper to enjoy her in the story. But was upset when I got to it that it was at the very end of the main story. I fortunately did not need her to 30/30 TOA. But having her stuck at 40 while exploring really annoyed me. I made sure to let Kuro know this in game with a few other bugs like how ALL the cutscenes were bugged for me. I play on a 13 inch ipad and they shrank them to 1/3 of my screen and stretched out everything completely distorting the entire cutscenes. That alone ruined the story for me.

[@Crispymantis123]

Add like a early access but only for that version like what they did with HSR and the new characters mats. Would be a massive QoL improvement. Please Kuro❤❤

[@gullugadha]

Imagine if they don't fix it even after we head to the next region, hopefully the devs will keep improving.

[@RuujRubellite]

I don't really see this as a problem for new regions. The problem comes in if a large portion of bosses get locked behind story content. Even in Genshin you could only prefarm so much without access to the new region. This doesn't really bother me personally. Not against improvements but be careful. People want stuff to do after all.

[@udohdanny2944]

You can read the dialogue in the gallery menu

[@TinyyTato]

I didn't skip the story I took my time and once I finished i did a 10 pull. Shorekeeper came come home i have her lvl 80. I just need to keep farming echoes so i can have 200% ER.

[@hrishavdas6999]

some more suggestions and questions from my side- 1. Why is the story always like the MC Is OP but he forgot everything now journey to uncover the truth, At some point why not reveal the past so that we understand the lore and Begin the quest of rover to end the lament after knowing everything. 2. pressing esc on keyboard showed a summary on the story but honestly i only saw that in first few cutscenes, after reaching blackshores it was directly showing me the skip dialoge and not giving me any summary, so was it not meant to appear all the time?? If this was a bug then needs a fix or if this was intended then what was the point in summary feature if it does not show all the summary everywhere?? 3. Beginning of every cutscene the mouse pointer will be shown in the middle of the screen and it stays there. Make it invisible and appear only when we move the mouse and after some sec disappears again. 4. True . Being able to watch all these amazing cutscenes would be amazing.

[@DEViL_X1612]

i agree with point where you said reenjoy story i skipped alot because not knowing how good story gonna be then i went to my second acc did everything from jue quest and then enjoyed it safe to say should add option where we can re enjoy quests

[@Kojiro3210]

Reminds me of Shenhe 😂 Still quest gated advancement to this day. HSR its kinda easy to get around this due to all of its material collection being essentially instances, and combet being that of traditional RPG where you touch a black blob on the field and are teleported to a special combat field, it can have that 'early access' added to the menu. It not being real-time combat lets this happen. Tho all but one weekly challenge boss have instanced fights means they could do early acess for those. Tho, when you think back, it was well before 1.1 where this story-locking of character progress existed. You need Scar's boss drop for a few resonator talents as well, and you needed story progression in order to do that. The one thing they could do is unlock the teleporter to the boss fight from the start. It's not unheard of. Otherwise just not have material bosses in anywhere in the quest-line, or have the actual material boss somewhere else in the area and leave the quest version as-is. But you also have to consider that once this banner is over, the 'new player' will have no need to hurry to the boss: they won't have a Shorekeeper to build. Also, anyone skipping won't have a need, either. You gotta actually have any character in this situation.

[@LunaticTrumpet]

I felt like I had to rush through the story to get her leveled up. I enjoyed the story though. I hope they take a page from star rail and let us fight bosses early.

[@kaladinstormy2828]

For me, skipping the story and rushing through the content is the best option, so I can maybe watch a summary later. I do this to make the most of the little time I have by farming and getting all the materials the events offer. I'm relatively new to WuWa, and hearing many people say that the story isn't good until many hours into the game doesn't make me want to fall behind for something that isn't worth it.

[@LikwidIsnikkk]

I skip non-major stories, I don't on major ones. But I wish that when clicking/pressing, it'll be responsive as hell for fast reading. Sometimes, I sleep to the loooong dialogue, probably longer than MGS4 😴

[@Roihclem871]

Im fine with the boss thing, the story has a peoblem with just telling us shit with very little buildup but maybe its just early.

[@Makuael]

i agree it’s an issue but every gotcha has this problem, Fexiao for HSR was the same way. Let’s see if Kurt beats them to the punch

[@nieczshe]

imo doing the quest with rover + lvl 40 shorekeeper was the intended experience, that makes sense in the context of the story. I personally don't think this needs fixing or rather I prefer for it to be kept as is.

[@saintontas]

The trial shorekeeper in the story is level 80... so...

[@baeck-wuwa]

@@saintontas kurobots defending bad design is wild

[@byCAL]

Saw the update and gave the game a shot again after not enjoying it the first time round, I love the game now because of its combat but hate the story slog you have to go through to get to it, which in the end is minimal at best. They should embrace what they do so well (the combat) and integrate it more into the story, instead of endless boring dialogue

[@Hatandclogs4334]

I still don't know what's going on.

[@user-sy6tg1ol9e]

I stopped playing Genshin back in the door when Kazuha was added as his ascension material were all locked behind one of the most boring and dogshit stories ive had to try and sit through. I downloaded it again after Wuwa launched to see what was new and saw huge amounts more content and it made me excited. Then i realised that if i get ANY character, id have to go through 3 years of content to even play them

[@ghostbuster27]

It's not even the case anymore cause now u can skip without the need to do the story to go to specific places to gather materials around the nation , they started this in Fontaine. And as for boss mats as of now they don't require story to unlock (except for weekly bosses which is obvious) , but i agree with u , the need to do the whole story to even have access to inazuma is annoying af , but instead of fixing the miss , the try not to make the same mistake which isn't too great but good overall. But yes i agree with you

[@user-sy6tg1ol9e]

@@ghostbuster27 Thats very good to know! If thats the case then it may be worth giving the game another go. It felt odd to me that having a busy life could make it far harder to enjoy collecting gacha characters but thats how it became over time as patches got ahead of me

[@ghostbuster27]

@@user-sy6tg1ol9e from this perspective it's very different than before if u want my opinion, but as of now their only chance is natlan, if it's good then I'm staying, if not.... Then I'll probably leave the game . So from now as a Stand point, it's near the same ngl so I'm still waiting for it to improve during natlan . So yeah it's too different but not too bad as of now but let's wait and see ( wuwa ruined my experience in genshin like a lot though lol)

[@Etrexum]

Omg, they amount of self-centered people in this comment section is incredible. We get it, you had a great experience yourself, and the way you experienced it is the only valid way to experience it. Now, leave and let proper human beings debate about empathy.

[@lemonsquishy197]

I mean, many people seem to play with the (inferior) English dub, they could simply watch the story on youtube, it's super easy to find unlike JP dub + EN subs . But well, an option to rewatch the story would solve this I guess

[@autumnwind8509]

So basically the levelling problem is only for players who want to max new character day 1? The hardcore and whales who want to rush the event on first 3 days? Uhuh I see..... Not a big deal I guess 😂😂 it's all good lmao

[@dfbfdbfrgreg5859]

This problem also happen to me, but I am able to use my 2nd account to play the story again.

[@annemarieangue6727]

Bro on his way to become the best wuwa cc in youtube Great video as always !!

[@klest-avnich]

at first this thing was not really a problem, but yeah after trying to play genshin 5.0 with ALT account, i was doomed after getting Mualani, like im not even done with Inazuma, so i decided to quit playing my alt account and play wuwa instead. 😅

[@catvador9145]

I think they should expend the multiplayer experience. I liked a lot the illusive realm

[@choochoo3041]

I am afraid if they add the feature U suggest in the vid, hoyobots gonna knock on the door and say "Wuwa copied HSR."

[@DEViL_X1612]

so wuwa needs early fight option before doing story just like genshin ?

[@dracoblizzard7944]

The real problem with the story is that it's mediocre, I mean, the fantasy shenanigans hardly make any sense even to people who are paying full attention, and it feels like the dialouge was written by AI. An actual writer would be able to tell a much more compelling story than this.

[@soratenshi2847]

yup, i skipped her whole story cause i wanted to upgrade her fast xD

[@vinny9500]

We are also likely going to expeince the same thing with Camellya in 1.4. There are leaks of a new weekly boss and it's highly likely related to the Black Shores. I imagine it will be coming in 1.4 as well and Camellya's weekly boss mats come from it.

[@xcoder5692]

Tbh i skip story to watch streamers play the story XD tho i stopped skipping when shorekeeper appeared.

[@AoiRurui98]

I don't know if you're nitpicking, Isn't this also a problem in most Gacha game? Being boss locked behind quest? It's funny that it was only mentioned in Wuthering Waves when Honkai let alone Genshin have been doing this for 4 years now

[@saintontas]

Both those games give temporary early access to story-locked boss materials.

[@rorentin]

well, deal with it

[@devinroi3886]

Kuro would need to do a survey on that. They look for this kind of feedback. But if there's hardly anyone is bringing it up then it'll be left unattended

[@HydroC0]

As a story skipper, i have to agree with literally 100% of what you've stated in the video. They should add a system where they let players fight bosses that are locked behind regions/story, somehow. So that the incentive of skipping the story is less. Me personally due to me skipping the story early on in my play through, i really stopped caring about story, though i understand the importantance. I suppose i just don't have any interest due to wanting to just clear content as fast as possible (cuz i can't play wuwa for long periods of time due to uni)

[@YoloTub3]

Fr even kuro's previous game pgr has the ability to fight bosses without skipping a story

[@nyes4596]

Just send them a message or something, they'll listen.. again

[@shutup5555]

WuWa ruined stories

[@joshvarner3936]

Voice Acting/Direction and Storytelling have improved since 1.0 however I dont think either has arrived at a point where they are "good" yet. Characters still don't talk like people. Watching Rover "Nuh-uh" "Yeah-huh" "Nuh-uh" back and forth with a computers over a character we've know for generously 2 hours max is not compelling.

[@rvpairofdicethewanderer2383]

"Skip Button" Summmary of this Video: The Game should really try not to lock some Bosses behind Story Content, especially if there is so much to go through. Of course, this may lead to some major Spoilers for the Story so this may not apply to all Bosses. In Genshin Impact, for example, the only Bosses there that are indeed locked behind Story are the Weekly Grind Bosses. In WuWa's side, their equivalent is Scar, the Dreamless, and Jué. The Game should also try to make a bigger time cycle for the Tower of Adversity so that most Players would have ample time to try to Build the new Characters they need and/or want that the Gamemode now currently recommends.