WWE 2K18 Top 10 downgrades (how the game has gotten worse)

Today we take an in depth look at 10 ways the franchise has taken an step back over recent years removing features and gameplay mechanics.
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[@pawe1721]

2K Said they focus on realism and make tables disaapear in 10 sec -_-

[@staidnine9258]

Geralt z Rivii well they can't have it just stay there it will probably make stuff glitch

[@thomascabral9800]

Don't be a whiny brat. Go complain somewhere else.

[@wrmie]

Geralt z Rivii And it’s all consoles fault for it too. If it wasn’t for their weak hardware, it’d probably stay longer. But they probably disappear due to performance issues on console, since the physics would make it run slower than it already does.

[@staidnine9258]

Thomas Cabral who are you talking about

[@datboi2062]

the reason they disappear is because if you are playing a ladder match and a table breaks in the middle of the ring you can’t place a ladder there, it will glitch out and either freak out and go flying or the player won’t be able to place it there

[@umcara8609]

Wwe 2k15:"You can't play more than 4 match types"

[@animal1nstinct394]

Nobody claimed 2k15 is the better game but the physics are better.

[@imdeathwish5118]

Um cara ture

[@drakorre3232]

2k15 out of all 2k games has the best physics they should really bring it back it made the game really fun

[@danield7393]

You should changed this title to tlc downgrades cause 90% of this video was about ladders and tables

[@Superthedarkskingod]

Curb stomp at 1:56 is fire

[@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466]

Tbh only 5 and 8 are downgrades. Removing features =/ downgrades, they don't affect gameplay at all. (Except for the two i mentioned). In fact, making tables disappear is an upgrade, i remember those table bits getting stuck and being unable to place tables/ladders near them. Also, referees are always removing stuff from the ring so it makes sense.

[@EthanTChristensen]

OK the tables disappearing is an improvement. In 2k15 I always had problems with tables breaking in certain areas and then not being able to place ladders there and win the match so I had to restart.

[@thatonegooch5559]

Yea u right but it would be more realistic if they stayed

[@JohnReedy07163]

Tyler The futre No it wouldn't...the refs always move broken stuff out of the ring

[@baileygamez]

John Reedy so that's what should happen

[@kingj3571]

Liam Bailey Still wasn't a downgrade then if anything it was a upgrade because I remeb er on 2k15 it would get broken right in the middle and I would be trying to move the broken table parts

[@hypn0298]

Tables stay now in the 1.03 patch

[@harrylfc5564]

He clearly tried to get the video over 10 mins

[@dickenstham5075]

Bulldog Games Whats so bad about that when there are actual content

[@syedfarzaambanuri9415]

Show this video to 2k

[@jacks910]

THE SKOLLION 19 ikr

[@blackheart2189]

THE SKOLLION 19 like they will care about it😂

[@syedfarzaambanuri9415]

Undertaker guy they should

[@syedfarzaambanuri9415]

But first of all we need to show this footage to 2K

[@howbiggru7764]

How you do that?

[@charles9124]

Almost everything in this list hasn't been in the game since 2k15 though...

[@Ekitch23]

KingOfStrongSwing yeah 😂

[@animal1nstinct394]

I question why though...

[@noname356]

Sammy Because in 2k15 they focused on the physics and then there was no match types and online was broken

[@noname356]

Kam Kalambay But what about the upgrades?

[@BrandonGiordano]

And the game hadn't been good since 2k15

[@CharizardBoltGaming]

I like how most of the things on this list relates to tables and ladders

[@nutheaded]

all of which is circumstantial bullshit

[@justinwhu7247]

It's a case of "making a game too realistic that it gets boring fast".... *games are played to escape reality* or *do things that aren't possibly in reality* or *thing's you wouldn't typically see* ,so if they were able to make an *arcady* (not too arcady) *game with dope graphics* it could turn out great,by allowing the player to have more fun. Some examples: SYM,HCTP,SvR 2007,SvR 2011,WWE 2k14

[@blackheart2189]

How a ps2 game for example here comes the pain had so much stuff you could do comparing to a freaking XBOX1/ps4 game where everything is limited now but i believe in the next 2 years we will have the best wwe games and you can believe that

[@tpuphenomenal9970]

Undertaker guy i see what you did their

[@godli6063]

This is why you don’t speak.

[@iraouf3403]

I prefer better graphics and bugs fixed than tables system and arena :/

[@janlp5767]

i RuXii dont forget more match types and a arena editor

[@sataniccyanide6976]

The graphics literally haven't changed since 2k14 you degenerate. There's still a fuckton of bugs and glitches with no improvements to the core gameplay and anything that has been added is either minute or should have already been in 15.

[@arkaeussystem437]

It's gotten worse what's the point of buying it then

[@levipre5593]

because it got better in other aspects ?

[@JoviEatsPizza]

I don't find a good reason to buy it if you don't have it already. Backstage, 8 Man Matches, and better graphics are what you're really paying for. I regret buying it.

[@cason4267]

SP Brazy wasn't everyone ragging on 2K that they should remove 2K showcase?

[@cason4267]

SP Brazy me too, I liked the showcases (never got to play 2k15) and I like to go back to them once in a while

[@cason4267]

SP Brazy I didn't get it because the time I got another WWE game after 14 16 was already out

[@ccngaming6315]

I don’t see most of these as downgrades though most of them made the game better and more smooth

[@IceddSnipa23]

CCN Gaming ikr

[@anxiety6312]

IKR!!!!?????? THX God someone said what i think :D

[@hypn0298]

They didn't really. Maybe for that move in the video, but the moves I did before in the last game still have rope interactions.

[@LuchoCastle_11]

#4 isn't a downgrade, it's added realism, how often do you see people carrying a 30 pound ladder while running?

[@k_____2802]

There’s absolutely no reason 2k18 shouldn’t have basically every WWE arena ever.

[@redviper1608]

Kris _____ Yeah, there’s a little thing called community creations, a place where you can download arenas. I’m getting sick of these crybaby whiners complaining about every little detail about the game.

[@littlekirk9969]

Wwe2k18 is still a fun game people just chill

[@miguelrios3939]

Yeah your right

[@seedynation7925]

Yeah

[@danield7393]

Yeah I have it

[@ismaellagunas5020]

little kirk yeah

[@anxiety6312]

Yeah Just Chill and Play :D

[@mowdegrassetyson7676]

10 things 2k18 did better than 2k15 1.Vince Mcmahon 2.Vince Mcmahon 3.Vince Mcmahon 4.Vince Mcmahon 5.Vince Mcmahon 6.Vince Mcmahon 7.Vince Mcmahon 8.Vince Mcmahon 9.Vince Mcmahon 10.Vince Mcmahon

[@AsherAmir2002]

In 2k15 there were not too matches like backstage brawl and etc people used to play 2k15 in Xbox 360 and ps3 .

[@WebMasterGG]

Yes finally I always have known that WWE 2k15 had better gameplay the 18

[@cmpork7145]

Except alot of those problems were ones 17 also had... Seems like a big waste of time and a bit of lie because the title suggests that there are new downgrades when that isn't the case

[@ryanredmond87]

CM Pork either way,just like the tv show,the games are getting worse.theyll never beat attitude and no mercy but it’s like they don’t even try.sadly if people didn’t buy them they’d just stop making them rather than actually try to make a good game

[@princesssweepzzt5502]

I love that 2K gets rid of all the fun, over the top content from the old WWE games so they can have more "realism", and then in new games there's a huge amount of glitches, tables don't break, and instead of putting someone through the Hell in a Cell you just teleport to a different part of it.

[@TomCushnie]

Great video!

[@jakesnyder4957]

Tom Cushnie Fancy finding you here...

[@kalebisdrab]

Tom Cushnie well then

[@anitaverma6640]

Hi tom

[@jorgehenriquez154]

Tom Cushnie P

[@amangaddu6535]

It's me it's me it's Tom Cushnie

[@DonDeLem]

Broken tables have always disappeared. Take out more weapons in 2K15, and they'll disappear.

[@thomascabral9800]

You're comparing this to WWE 2K15? I think you kind of just lost the argument without it even starting...

[@MKing61911]

Thomas Cabral but 2k18 should have everything in 2k15 then make it better

[@IceddSnipa23]

Malcolm James right like instead of downgrading upgrade 2K every year literally every year go forward 2 steps but down 1

[@noname356]

Malcolm James There's a thing called sacrifices. You see all this in 2k15 eh? What did you end up with? Like 10 match types.

[@idkitsazi]

Your right why not compare it to 2k17

[@noname356]

Hari1017 I guess 2k18 is worse than 2k15 Huh?

[@table255]

Only reason for less arenas is that there’s no showcase. Also you can just create arenas in 2K18, something not in 2K15

[@UntrainedPuppy]

Ok here goes. 1. Higher detailed wrestlers with Better looking visuals uses more disc space using more memory and therefore taking away memory from other features. 2: more wrestlers means less space for new modes and stuff. 3. The game have improved considerably just because the old games with less detailed graphics were able to keep more things in the background (tables not disappearing etc) doesn't mean they were better because they only did that with less graphical challenge because at the time and age graphics didn't really matter like it does today.

[@jaymartell402]

This has to suck, if there's only so much you can have in a tlc match and they limit the things they had the last 2 years then it's gotta be bad on their part

[@GenGamesUniverse]

The game is alright, it's just the main issue I have is the fact that 2K have turned the difficulty way too high like Easy is now Normal, Normal is now Hard, Hard is now Legend and Legend is now ??? as well as the season mode, it is way too short and way too difficult at times (like with the specific stipulations that you HAVE to literally do otherwise you have to redo the match again and again until you get the thing done, especially with the MITB match in MyCareer), MyPlayer being stupidly rediculous, like having to get loot crates to unlock stuff in MyCareer as well as HAVING to go online all the time to unlock the stuff and get loot crates as well as VC and Upgrade points.

[@hypn0298]

still not too hard for me

[@GamesCooky]

One thing i hate about these WWE games is how they get better in certain aspects, but then either removes or makes other aspects worse. I just don't understand why they can't just keep what they had, and then build upon that -.-

[@lordpookie]

i refuse to believe that people are defending 2k15 like cmon now...

[@SixHundredWays]

They could add ONE thing back and I personally wouldn't care what else they downgrade or remove....custom soundtracks. Being a Create-A-Wrestler junkie, it kills me when my original awesome divas and/or guys have to walk to the ring using a WWE reject instrumental or even worse one of the superstars tracks.

[@da_peashooter6172]

I still like 2k18 better than 2k15, mainly because of improved graphics (sorta) and bigger roster

[@thebosssashabanks7811]

ppl always haten on wwe 2k18 but y'all never criticize basketball

[@Kingsly5674]

I’m okay with the game restricting placement of tables and ladders. Properly placing them for things was always somewhat tedious. Especially when I’m just trying to superplex my friend before he recovers. Also placing a ladder and climbing it just to have your guy unable to get the briefcase cause it’s a couple inches to the left was annoying.

[@davidjonmoxleyskipp230]

Did anyone else realise that you can't even level/rank up online anymore??? Why did they take it away? That's the only reason I played!

[@gangdoodoo2217]

"2k15 is bad cause small roster hurr durr"

[@ramiqudimat]

Gang DooDoo it was a decent roster and the arenas were so good ( like many from ruthless aggression era)

[@rocketcon]

Overall this is a great list. Every year these games see things removed, for no apparent reason. However, I disagree on numbers 4 and 6. Wrestlers never run while holding a ladder or table in real life, so removing that feature is actually an improvement. Having a preset position for ladder placement makes ladder matches far better, as setting them up in the exact spot was very frustrating in previous games.

[@epiccrusher2007]

Please tweet this at WWE and 2k

[@James-ll8su]

Keep in mind that WWE 2K15 had downgrades too. It's not like every game is perfect.

[@chrisanders713]

WWE 12 was the last great game. 2K18 seems to be the best so far out of the 2K series.

[@tsstevensts]

Can you create Divas in 2K15? What about having a replay and video editor? Does the game have that? How many slots to make your own wrestler? Who trains you in Career Mode? Bill DeMott you say? Who does commentary? JBL? What custom options were there to create and modify wrestlers? How well was importing face scans and logos implemented? What was the DLC like on PC? How many could be in a match at once? Did it have backstage brawls?

[@dodogaga274]

tsstevens Let’s not forget the improved gameplay and all the realistic animations.

[@Official2Shitty]

Who else hated 2k18

[@Dyslexic_Mudkip]

The ONLY thing that bothers me about 18 is the crowd lighting. It's not as bright as 17

[@Dretube523]

Broken tables disappeared in most wrestling games.

[@zensor5750]

Why It is worse: "I dont like what they did with the TLC Match and thats why I'll make 1 point into 10 and cry a bit about it, even though some points are even an improvement and some things are just not true"

[@askscene8485]

still getting 2k18 no matter how many ''downgrades'' it has

[@Hulkitout]

Good ol wrestling. Hopefully 2k will finally make a perfectly enjoyable arcade wrestler while giving us full control over the wwe universe

[@andrewgonyea]

I honestly never understood why they had to regulate the use of weapons, 2k15’s weapon physics were the best on the new generation. They should keep the table match table meter thing and the new ladder match minigame though Edit: By Regulating weapons I meant you can only put Tables and ladders in certain places and only use them and other weapons in certain ways. IGN put it best. The series take one step forwards and 2 back with each game.

[@fse2520]

It’s better than 2k17. They get better every year.

[@cason4267]

I'm glad they have fixed positions for tables and ladders, ladder matches were almost impossible

[@hypn0298]

NOTE: The 1.03 patch now allows broken tables to stay throughout the match and have four tables, thankfully. Not sure why they gave a time limit. Also the "you can't place tables wherever you want" thing is not new in 2K18, that was in 2K17 as well. Also #8 is not really a thing. There's still lots of rope interactions you can do. There's a facebuster that can glitch them out of the ring if performed in the right spot. And #9 is just a complaint where they got rid of some of the old moves. They will probably be replaced soon. So I'd say now there's only 6 downgrades not 10, and 2K18 is still a much better game than 2K15.

[@datboi2062]

“unbalanced physics” what you want to be able to reverse everything

[@JokerCarnageYT]

Also the lack of chairs in a TLC match is irritating. Also wish the weapon wheel was available for fca,last man standing matches,triple threat and fatal four ways etc. Match creation disappointed me this year can't even make a extreme rules last man standing. Pretty simple match type I should be able to make right?

[@CowboyBuffaloMufflo]

they normally add a 2k showcase for dlc anyways and extra arenas with that. The bit with the tables is quite annoying because you don't want them too disappear but it would glitch ladders etc. Would be good if the ref slid it out the ring and then it disappeared

[@TH94Glitch]

If you wantto hold or carry a ladder sideways, hold RT.

[@JackKellyBastardMan]

Broken tables don't disappear after 10 seconds for me on 2k18, though they do when you grab another table.

[@Z_hri]

Practically everything on this list had to do with tables and ladders, and most of this stuff like 2k showcase hasn’t been here for a few years

[@jayanandfrancis3124]

falling animations not a downgrade but they totally ruined Hell in a cell

[@mariosanchez3922]

If you have been playing the Yukes and THQ WWE games since the first SmackDown then you already know the next game will have less features then the last game

[@sonnyfansi7730]

1 for the arena you can create it 2 for the table disapear « who cares » i mean you can’t use the table anymore so why keep it in the ring ? 3 « you can’t place the table or the ladders where you want » i agree for outside the ring it’s a drawback but on the ring it’s better for landing your oppenent’s on 4 they can’t do a perfect balance system (you can see a glitch in the video) But for the rest i’m totally agree with u

[@The_Husband_of_Jane_Lane]

Because of this, I have to avoid the newer games at all cost.

[@rageofomlet5345]

Realism is wwe 2k18 selling point. You basically described all the stuff WWE 2k18 wants in the game to make in more real

[@Yano88]

Let's be honest here: 2k18 is not that much of a game. Career mode is a pain. It's just bad. They really should do the same thing as NBA 2k18 did and even FIFA did. Create a character and go for a predetermined (and long) storyline. You can even start in bingo halls or other made-up indies and slowly work your way to a try-out at the Performance Center. Gives us cutscenes, backstory. They were boasting about giving the player the chance to walk freely but that mode is just bad and a waste of time...

[@aal0910]

Idk about you guys, but the physics engine in 2k15 was my favorite thing. The amount of hilarious/brutal moments I had with that are too many to count!

[@hypn0298]

I think it will come back, but I don't know when.

[@lillukie8811]

The reason I think it has gotten worse is that they don’t add breaking point energy more like they did in wwe2k15

[@TheJPGaming]

Everything did downgrade but the running with tables or ladders is understandable because no one runs with them unless if they are going to him them with it

[@LionheartJafar]

Lol stop nitpicking. 2K18 is the best in the series so far, those are all small things. 2K15 is the worst WWE game ever.

[@wow1371]

number 2 and 8 are actually good, they broke the damn game, the rest too are actually the lesser of two evils, the tables were just taking too much space and made the game harder to control, same with their random placements, the ladder shenanigans tho is sad, although understandable as it follows the same logic as the restrictions imposed on tables.

[@eliscott8076]

i was actually angry they removed 2k showcase

[@zacharytackett6957]

half of these I either done really notice nor care about, showcase mode, limited tables, less tables to use, limited places to place tables, cant run with ladder or tables. I like having things realistic even if theres some glitches here and there with extreme moments from here and now. Even though theres some less stuff. 2k18 is one of the best wwe games in a long time.

[@ryanreynolds192]

You act like these changes are new to 2k18. These have been gone since ‘16 or ‘17

[@jaysonjuttner1191]

I use this game as a coaster on my coffee table. Complete dumpster fire.

[@alexandriaburnett2801]

This is the first 2k game I've ever bought. It's also the last.. The only thing i find fun about this game is making the teletubbies square off against Freddy, Jason, Michael, and Chucky.

[@fernandogonzalez691]

why people say that 2k15 is the worse game in ps4.compared to 2k17 and 2k18.

[@dodogaga274]

Fergf14 Because 2k15 IS the worse wwe game on the PS4.

[@Future_Jason]

I loved using the half open tables in the other 2ks. It just felt better than using it regularly

[@matthewlinderman5042]

Technically they disappear if you select another table

[@checkyself7277]

Boy, do i miss the SHOWCADE matches

[@unregierbar7694]

I don´t really miss the showcase mode. The career mode could be better though since older games like SVR 2008 had a great season mode that was way more fun to play.

[@The_Maki1]

For me in wwe2k18 the broken tables last until you get a new weapon

[@razikhalifa7536]

hi EspacioNinjaX your right man that was i am angry about i miss and you miss guys all things from wwe games like wwe smackdown vs raw 2011/2010/2009 road to wrestlemania and 2k showcase where are they now no in 2k18 i hope on 2k19 i see things from old wwe games awesome video man :D

[@Archangel96]

im glad 2kshowcase is removed i hated it cause the superstars i want are locked threw that

[@Stay_ClassyYT]

BigBossMG Get season pass

[@Archangel96]

i have that

[@Stay_ClassyYT]

BigBossMG Then I'm not sure how that is a complaint if the mode is a feature that is great that showcases a certain theme from the past where there is nothing to hate thanks to that dlc.

[@shouryadhingra3533]

if u like wwe 2k15 u just play older versions but we like the all new wwe games #wwe2k18

[@supernatural0178]

Techy Guy Yes i also like the new game but WWE2K18 its feels i don't a bit weird when i was playing SVR 2011 in the good old days i had really fun the Online was better and when you actually play extreme rules or somethink like that it was really fun you put your opponent trough the table and it was Fire

[@xOCEDestruction]

Havent played any wwe Game since 2010, but 2k15 looks dope. Must have been a nice multiplayer experience

[@claudio80367]

Some of the things you say are right, but do you remember how hard it was put someone through a table in Wwe2k15? And what about the fact that it featured the smallest roster ever in a Wwe game?

[@shaafiepokemon]

these are like the worst things to not make u buy a game expect showcase

[@MISTERSLAPYEAH]

For number 5 of course it would be RVD who would jump from ladder to ladder from outside to inside of the ring

[@davidjonmoxleyskipp230]

And the fact that there's no point playing it online anymore.

[@illmatickilla1856]

For #8 there is one move in 2k18 that interacts it's called the alley oop facebuster

[@hypn0298]

Yep, it works well. Some other moves still do too. So #8 is BS false

[@realityn9829]

It's still october 2017 and WWE 2k18 is already unplayable. Another wasted year for wrestling games.

[@Musicis619Life]

We all miss svr 2011 physics.

[@mr.badkharma2288]

You can't use less arenas because in 2k15 and stuff they had the storylines that had like 7 or 8 arenas for each

[@timikobilyeu9908]

Heyman was shaking the ropes like uiltmite warrior

[@webtely]

They thought that tables were too OP that's why they got nerfed.

[@noname356]

webtely They weren't OP, they were retarded. It was near impossible to set up a table in the right position.

[@Born2Elite]

The only exception I have with this video is the title as it should've been WWE 2K not WWE 2K18 as a few of these happened on WWE 2K17 like the one where you can't place tables wherever you want. But great video.

[@officialrickross8718]

Half of this list is just him being butthurt about them removing the broken physics of tlc matches, 2k18 is probably the best in the 2k franchise, and the only thing I agree about on this list is the departure of 2k showcase. The 2k16 showcase was amazing.

[@centraltimegamers2977]

Yeah I’d rather have all the new features than half of this stuff. 8 man matches need resources.

[@danejerome2905]

Thanks for this video man, people need to realise

[@antlove2k3]

Realize what? This video basically is about TLC matches. And having no showcase. I'll take that if I can have backstage brawls and match creator.

[@premonition5508]

U understand theyre is also upgrades. Like how 2k18 graphics are a miracle conpared to 2k15. Plus theyre 90% about tlc matches

[@JuleZz__z]

#9 bullshit, they removed them but didn't they replace them with better animations of the moves? wtf