'WWF War Zone' RETROSPECTIVE - Triangle X Squared O.

[@SmellTheCanvis]

I loved Vince and JR on commentary. Underrated duo

[@616Entertainment]

Definitely agree, man. People bust on Vince's commentary but the delivery and enthusiasm were on point.

[@SmellTheCanvis]

@@616Entertainment 100% agree!

[@killinghawkz]

@@616Entertainment ikr

[@markus5862]

@@616Entertainment that’s what honestly shocks me. My friends always trash on Vince’s commentary from back in the day and it makes no sense to me (especially with his work in the 80s). He absolutely sold everything for me. Him and Jesse are hands down my favorite. It’s crazy to say but Vince’s commentary is actually underrated (in terms of how people think about it nowadays)

[@ndg8240]

@@616Entertainment I was wondering what characters was supposed to take Bret, bulldog, Ahmed Johnson and Shawn Michaels spot.

[@davidnec571]

If you bought the strategy guide for War Zone, there was an interview with the developers that explained why Bret Hart was still in the game even though he left WWF nine months before the game's release. Bret had worked with the developers a lot on this game in it's early stages and he would come into the studio and they all thought he was a really nice. Plus, they were probably fans of his (who wasn't in 1997?). Therefore, in the interview the developers said they fought to keep him in the game and they were successful. I'm glad they did, because this game would have been bad if Bret Hart wasn't in it.

[@616Entertainment]

Very interesting tidbit, thank you!

[@danthemancushecan]

It wouldn't have been "bad". Just no Bret Hart.

[@teecakes]

@@danthemancushecan It's great that we got to have a 3D wrestling game with Bret Hart, British Bulldog, and Owen Hart all together with their real recorded promos and a decent in-game commentary team calling their matches. Probably some of my favorite memories as a kid was picking Owen and remember how great a wrestler he was after his untimely passing once all the other Hart Family members were out of the WWF

[@thegloobster]

@@teecakes Owen Hart's moveset is pretty great in War Zone, no Undertaker, that motherfucker was op as hell in War Zone, but still pretty dang good

[@AmAxel35]

They owed Bret a favor when he saved the development of the Wrestlemania Arcade ports telling them they were de referencing a null pointer

[@DevastatingDave]

'Off the ropes!....into the ropes!.....against the ropes!.......off the ropes!'

[@da7sicko]

Lmao!!! Dude my best memory of this one

[@magicianrespected1100]

“They lock horns!” 😂😂

[@JamesNGames]

Total Slobber Knocker!!!

[@sophieschollsreinkarnation5078]

''Burn in hell!!!''

[@616Entertainment]

The fuckin best, man.

[@RobTRobTRobTRobT]

Perfect timing. Got this game Christmas in 1998 . First WWF game I was able to own and not borrow. Merry Christmas

[@MackManning27]

Fuck Christmas

[@YMSanad]

@@MackManning27 you just made the list 🎅😠

[@RobTRobTRobTRobT]

@@YMSanad hahahaha

[@616Entertainment]

Merry Christmas, ya filthy animal.

[@LTMM_]

Ken Shamrock screaming "GET OUT OF MY WAY" is absolute childhood.

[@616Entertainment]

Hahahaha. Little scary, too.

[@AlmightBlackDragon]

Stone Cold: Somebody is gonna get thier ASS WHIPPED! My custom character: I'm gonna get medieval on your buttocks!

[@jazzygang9972]

@@AlmightBlackDragon 😂😂💯I have the N64 Version and It's Amazing, I know all the Moveset, I can Write them Down for you if u want me too

[@Smokey1419]

"Rocky doesn't suck, you suck" was one of my favorite lines from the audience

[@616Entertainment]

So good, hahahaha

[@TheVicious5150]

"AUUUUGH....OW DAYUM!!!"

[@jazzygang9972]

@@TheVicious5150 🤨Smell What The Rock Cooking 👨‍🍳🍲

[@Juwellz18]

My dad got me this for Christmas the year it came out. I played it like crazy until he got me WWF Attitude. I played that non-stop as well until WWF Smackdown came out.

[@tommyjohnson4855]

Attitude was buttcheeks

[@raysmith1583]

Attitude! That game had a nice roster

[@616Entertainment]

I tend to really enjoy buttcheeks.

[@616Entertainment]

Dude, those were the days, right?

[@WillS.TheSuperReds.]

The childhood memories.

[@fattfontenot713]

"Player 1 is every woman's dream, and every man's nightmare."

[@616Entertainment]

Hahahahahhaa

[@truindividual]

Player 1 should go back to the gym and train

[@killinghawkz]

"Crowd chants player one"

[@christophernicholson20]

"Lights on but no one's home" lol

[@emanuelespinoza9325]

Player One, YOU RULE!

[@Psmgamer]

Warzone definitely was a huge reason why I liked WWF games in the 90's. Acclaim Sports really knew how to make a wrestling game feel like the real thing.

[@jerrodhall1]

Back in 1998, my friends and I played the hell out of this game. We created our own wrestlers and made story lines foe them. That was a very memorable time for me.

[@SergioCanoJr87]

The first wrestling game I ever owned.

[@truindividual]

Mine was RAW was Genesis

[@616Entertainment]

Hell yea, man.

[@jamesstrickland4501]

Mine was wwf wrestlmania on nes.

[@LoneLeeGH]

Oh my God, this vid hit me right in the feels. I remember my older cousin and I would do Tornado tag matches constantly with an army of created wrestlers spread throughout 4 memory cards. This game stands the test of time for me, I don't care what anyone says. But when you said 21 years ago I almost died haha.

[@616Entertainment]

I love this comment, man. Gotta cherish those positive memories.

[@rogermorris9696]

This game has place in my heart as, not being able to game for many years, I got this along with Tomb Raider with my brand new PS1.

[@616Entertainment]

Those were the days, man.

[@GalaxyInfinitePlus1]

WarZone was my first ever wrestling game, so, ill always have a spot in my heart for it... But... It's not as replayable as the smackdown titles

[@spencer2745]

It was my first video game I ever played. But one thing I hate about it is the button combos to pull off moves

[@616Entertainment]

100% agreed.

[@ChaseSchleich]

I played all of the horrible In Your House games and the horrible Thunder game. I remember playing them for months on end. I don't know if I knew they were awful or not because all I've ever played were awful wrestling games. I think it was WWF Raw that had the metal slop bucket sitting at the bottom of the screen by the ring during every match. That was the first "not completely awful" wrestling game I was able to play. The games look a lot better now a days but damn they're bad recently. I'm hoping AEW can do something special with their game (rumor is they're working with Yukes).

[@thegloobster]

@@spencer2745 But the combos makes the matches so much faster cause you don't have to tie up to make a move happen so it's constant slams and punchs, I think it's much less boring then the Aki engine where you have to tie up to do most things, but I do think the Aki engine is better in general

[@spencer2745]

@@thegloobster I've gone back and still can't figure it out and do the button combos. I felt like most of the time I was looking at the pause menu. Haven't played the N64 games but I feel like they would be better

[@vincentprice9156]

As usual you highlight long forgotten things in a review and I'm so glad you did. I hated Warzone but I totally forgot how good the commentating and audience were in this until you reminded me! I love how you can take elements from every game you review (Good and Bad) and remind us of those forgotten things! If they took all the best features from every Wrestling game and put them into a modern game it would be the greatest. I just want 2k to watch your reviews and understand your opinions are the majority of ours and so so much more.

[@616Entertainment]

Thank you very much, Gil. Sorry it took a little while to get back to you. The comments piled up so quick! I will *always* show the good and the bad. I have zero interest in blindly supporting a game or senselessly burying it. I'll always be fair. Much love!

[@RaDicAL808]

Anyone here tried to imitate undertaker’s “throat thrust,” the punch that took like hours to connect? Lol

[@616Entertainment]

Hahahaha, he leans back so far before pouncing that the opponent just walks away.

[@rickcapo2578]

Haha hell yea!!!!!!

[@jazzygang9972]

@@616Entertainment or The Wrestlers grab u quickly and Try to stop ya from Hitting that Throat Punch😂💯

[@dictatorrich3412]

Man, I remember the time me and my brother discovered the demo of this game on his demo disk, and hearing Stone Cold tell me that I'm a piece of trash and that he's gonna whip my ass (cursing in video games was rare back then, so it REALLY caught my attention). Instantly got me into wrestling, and instantly made Stone Cold my favorite wrestler. I absolutely loved the gameplay at first, because it was the first 3D fighting game that I played, and that just seemed cool to me. I never minded the button combinations at the time since I came from a Mortal Kombat background, but of course after playing WM2000 and Smackdown, I realized how superior those were. Although the graphics, gameplay, and roster don't hold up today, I STILL think that this and WWF Attitude had the best presentation out of any wrestling game ever, including the modern ones. Great commentary, crowd shouting out funny things, even the wrestlers speaking with taunts and during crucial parts of the match. That was fun! That alone made me not mind the poor gameplay and brought me back to the game a few times, even post WM2000 -N64. I really wish they would bring that back in the 2K games, but I'm certainly not holding my breath v_v Warzone will always have a special place in my heart. It single handedly got me into wrestling.

[@616Entertainment]

You and me both, man. I recognize War Zone doesn't age well, but it'll always be special to me on a certain level.

[@RyanLandreneau]

I JUST got the “squared circle” reference in triangle x squared circle lol.

[@616Entertainment]

It's only been 7 months, that's not too bad. ;-)

[@SteveSniffs]

Oh snap 😂

[@SteveSniffs]

I'm late on this one

[@truthbetold9092]

Man, talk about vivid memories. I used to play this back in the day at my cousin's house. I loved it when you'd play as Stone Cold, Irish whipped someone into the rope and jumped on them and he'd say "oh hell yeah!" Lol

[@616Entertainment]

That's maybe the best part, man. Hahaha

[@halfmanhalfcool]

I love love loved the commentary (and the badgering from the crowd) when you and your opponents were idle.

[@616Entertainment]

They weren't having it, man.

[@octotiggy]

So weird... that spinning character select cube got me all nostalgic. Played the hell out of this back in the day, even though I was a huge WCW fan and didn't have access to WWF outside of PPV VHS tapes from the video store. The vignettes where the wrestlers would talk to you at the warehouse were atmospheric and somehow kinda creepy. Loved it.

[@616Entertainment]

Dude the cube and the sound it makes when it spins REALLY hit me hard, I hear you 100%.

[@rallyrobb943]

War Zone has been an argument sense I was 12 when it came out. Half my buddies detested it, and half ( like myself ) loved it!!! I had the PlayStation version though, and never thought that some of them may of had the N64 version that wasn't nearly as good. Great look back, thanks my man!

[@616Entertainment]

It's definitely a love it or hate it, deal

[@shaka7302]

Yay Triangle X Squared O is my favorite Series

[@616Entertainment]

Highly appreciate that, brudda. =)

[@gearsofwar573]

At 40 years old I'm a old school gamer I've played them all from N64 to playstation and the difference other consoles to come along from WWF to WcW, I have to thank you for these videos it's been along time since I've played them it's cool to see them again.

[@616Entertainment]

Glad you're liking the videos, man. Thank you!

[@RoyallyRumbled]

Loved this. I remember being so into the CAW mode as a kid. You should do a Day of Reckoning retrospective after the Def Jam one!

[@616Entertainment]

The GCN games are indeed on the list.

[@YMSanad]

1:54 i remember my father caught me when i was watching this moment exactly He said : now that's why you love wresln !

[@rickyrosay33977]

My dad would watch with me and he would say Sable is so hot I wish I wasn't married yes he said that in front of me and when Trish Stratus debuted she became my first crush and my dad said seriously she's attractive to you are you kidding sable is a real woman

[@sophieschollsreinkarnation5078]

@@rickyrosay33977 I preferred Lita and Trish in 2000. But from today's standpoint: Stephanie was hotter. But I just didn't like curly hair as a kid and couldn't see if someone has fake tits. ^^

[@rickyrosay33977]

@@sophieschollsreinkarnation5078 Yeah all three have aged well especially lita in my opinion

[@616Entertainment]

Hahahahaha. I remember my dad walking in during the WWF Action! DVD and it was Trish on the beach. He said "woah, whadda we got, babes?" Classic.

[@rileykazama3145]

@@rickyrosay33977 try having a crush on asuka and Becky lynch

[@whyrobotslie8076]

“Every time a wrestler gets hit I want him to grunt” - Lex Luger

[@megamarsonic]

"What a wonderful suggestion!" - Mick Foley

[@d___c____5604]

Me and my little brother LOVED wrestling as kids. On a visit to my grandmother's house, we got to play this on my cousin marcs playstation. As we were getting ready to leave, Marc GAVE us the game and the guide! What an awesome thing to do. THANKS MARC.

[@Persadish]

I remember playing this game, as a kid with all my brothers, and we were like "this game don't work... lets play World Tour!". Attitude gave us the exact same feeling.

[@616Entertainment]

The AKI games were something crazy, man.

[@bxboricua167]

I remember my mom would rent me WCW world tour every week and one day it was War Zone instead. I marked out like crazy at 8-9 years old. When I heard the voice overs like when Austin does the Lou Thez press ("don't take this ass whoppin personally son") , I was like wow, this is so real!!

[@616Entertainment]

It really felt real!

[@jaym3475]

Now this is my real Christmas present

[@utbsupercrate5131]

Agreed

[@616Entertainment]

Thanks for watching!

[@MCastleberry1980]

I love that you can tell the roster was set in the fall of '97, since SS '97 was both the Screw Job AND Kane's debut match

[@616Entertainment]

Such a time capsule.

[@anthonydeadman]

"Ahh just swallowed my tongue ring!"

[@616Entertainment]

"Has anyone seen my mind? I THINK I LOST IT!"

[@raysmith1583]

Headbangers

[@kurtis664]

I have so many memories with this game. I loved it despite its flaws as i was only 7-8 when it came out. And as always you made another great video!

[@616Entertainment]

Thanks for watching, my friend.

[@EbikeAdventuresSD]

So many HIM songs and lyrics going on in my head as watching videos ❤️ Just counting the days till the comeback tour 😆.

[@616Entertainment]

My favorite band of all time. I sneak them into my content whenever possible.

[@vintageeagle8853]

Glad to have u back where u been

[@616Entertainment]

I put videos up every week brudda, lol. And I have a weekly podcast on iTunes. Where YOU been? Hahaha

[@vintageeagle8853]

@@616Entertainment 😭😭😭😭

[@jbizz80]

"Da Sand Rippa!" - Ahmed Johnson

[@LilZeusWrld]

JBiz80 🤣💀

[@616Entertainment]

Hahahahhahaha

[@DashieNegan41]

Hahahahahaha

[@LootGhoul12]

This is the very game we got with our N64 Christmas of 1998. Man were we pumped I remember playing the shit out of this brings back so many memories alot of the games you upload are from my childhood its awesome. I love your content man!!! Keep it up!

[@616Entertainment]

Plenty more on the way, Pat. Thanks for watching!

[@jaydham1]

This was my shit in 98 hell yeah! I just hated how the stunner looked so cheesy out of the grapple but when set up with the kick to the gut it was awesome

[@616Entertainment]

Yea it like "hey man I was thinking of hitting you with my finish." No set up. Just heyooooo

[@jazzygang9972]

@@616Entertainment Stone Cold Steve Austin did that Regular Stunner on The Wrestlers He fought. Doc Hendrix told him to do that Stunner with The Kick To the Gut. I'm not making this up

[@hersh23]

Man, I always loved playing this when it came out and watching the games intro video! Ken Shamrock screaming "GET OUT OF MY WAY!" like he does at @06:12 was always cool for me!

[@616Entertainment]

Dude he was a BEAST back then.

[@twilliamspro]

At the time Warzone was cool... once we'd seen how wrestling games could be and how controls could be warzone doesnt hold up Attitude has the same problem the button combos oh the button combos

[@616Entertainment]

It does indeed, I agree.

[@melaniel.4269]

What about them? I mean it's not any different than Mortal Kombat and most other versus fighters. The complaints make me wonder if wrestling fans are incapable of pressing more than 1 button at the same time. It might take ab it of time to get used to, but once you do, the moves just flow, since the button combos are easy. Left, Right, Square really shouldn't make your brain go bluescreen.

[@truindividual]

@@melaniel.4269 WrestleMania: The Arcade Game and In Your House was the same yes. However the N64 control scheme just seemed right for a wrestling game

[@melaniel.4269]

@@truindividual There was no "N64 Control Scheme", what you mean is the AKI style of Wrestling games, that also was available on other systems (WCW vs the World on Playstation for example, which actually even came before the N64 games). It was OK but a bit simplistic (Nostalgia is strong of course) because it too limited. I think the perfect scheme was always Fire Pro: Simple to learn, hard to master thanks to the timing based scheme and the match psychology you needed, big moves get countered early one, one thing that always annoyed me in 90% of all wrestling games was that you can just pull of the big moves right from the start, unrealistic and boring. Warzone and Attitude at least had a bit of a learning curve and challenge, something that at least i always prefered in games. There was nothing worse than buying a game and instantly go through it, because it was so damn fucking easy (like WWF European Rampe Tour, one of the worst wrestling games of all time) and thus i never was big on the AKI games (they were fun in MP i give them that) The Acclaim games, especially Attitude also excelled when it comes to features. A real career mode where you start on House Shows, create a wrestler, create a PPV with a create your arena? Awesome.

[@thegloobster]

@@melaniel.4269 Yeah I love the button combos, I love War Zone, it keeps the pace going and also keeps the game from getting boring in just an hour or 2! Also the WCW/NWO World Tour was definitely too easy but I think they got harder from then on and added more moves to the moveset over time so it could be worse

[@robertwarf3316]

Man the weapon attacks were so satisfying

[@ProWrestlingFan1995]

I actually like War Zone quite a bit.

[@Brian00007]

It was better than "attitude"

[@ProWrestlingFan1995]

Brian Honestly yeah it was.

[@blesstv8994]

Brian I disagree. Attitude was warzone on steroids.

[@Brian00007]

@@blesstv8994 the gameplay was terrible

[@blesstv8994]

Brian i liked it. You could customize arenas. Customize match stipulations. Wrestlers could bleed on almost any part of the body, not just their face, which made some matches look a murder scene. my favorite type of match was the stable match; Dx vs Ministry vs corporation vs the nation or the brood. And the CAW allowed you to create legendary Japanese and Mexican wrestlers plus more.

[@jtee06]

as a ps1 kid who only had wwf games on NES & sega prior, warzone was a GAME CHANGER spot on analysis & great vid as always!

[@616Entertainment]

100% a game changer. Thanks for watching!

[@junijuni8529]

This game was my life when it came out.

[@616Entertainment]

You and me both, man.

[@YusukeKnight]

Still remember playing this game back in 1998 as a kid for my PlayStation great stuff

[@616Entertainment]

Thanks for watching!

[@YusukeKnight]

616Entertainment you’re welcome anytime man

[@bardunshield]

I loved this game when I was younger. The promos were always the best part, even though the Ahmed ones were the most incomprehensible things I have ever heard.

[@616Entertainment]

The Ahmed ones are good, I just made a point to avoid them because everyone who has ever covered War Zone shines a light on them. I wanted to switch it up. Bulldog's are just as bad, lol.

[@r.josedefraga1205]

@@616Entertainment Just imagine if the Ultimate Warrior stuck around in the WWF post-July 1996 and made it into the game yet. He along with The British Bulldog and Ahmed Johnson all required interpreters and/subtitles.

[@JM1993951]

I really don’t mind the button combinations for simple moves. My main gripe with Warzone was the roster size. That said, obviously I loved Attitude.

[@616Entertainment]

Yea, Attitude is basically just War Zone 2, so the larger roster would do it for you, hahaha.

[@emmanuelspears9786]

Dude, I did the same in a weapons match. No table, no fight lol.

[@616Entertainment]

It was a major dealbreaker.

[@ITM95]

Your writing is incredible... Great video, as always! I hope you had a great holiday!

[@616Entertainment]

I really appreciate that, dude. My writing, editing, sound, lighting, it's all off the cuff. I've never had any lessons, lol. Totally self taught. You can tell here and there when I fuck things up, but I get by.

[@ITM95]

616Entertainment I think it’s great! The little imperfections make it more relatable, imo... it’s like talking to a friend! Perfection is boring... nobody likes a talking robot. 😂

[@evrbody]

17:57 Too bad Lex Luger wasn't in the WWF at this point. OH! WAUGH! OW! OOF!

[@616Entertainment]

Hahahahaahahahah

[@benjaminA.stantonpun]

You say this game has not aged well. I disagree. It took me 15 years to stop playing this game. I still have it and love it even now. I wish there was a remastered version with all original features plus extra moves, wrestlers, creation options etc.

[@616Entertainment]

I'm glad you love it so much, my dude. Thanks for watching.

[@caeert2962]

I'm exactly like you, first 3D wrestling game I played when it came out. I loved it, but then later realized how great wrestling games can be. As for the ropeless cage matches. I believe it was due to limitations in being able to use the ropes and turnbuckles when the cage was there.

[@616Entertainment]

You're probably right about the cage part.

[@MCavacini]

I loved this game and played it for hours on end. It was incredible for the time, and your recap makes me want to revisit it. Great job, as always!

[@616Entertainment]

Thanks for watching, dude!

[@BeAGoodDoga]

1 thing I liked about this game is that the wrestlers themselves actually do the grunts and groans when hit, and when performing moves. Also, the mid match quotes are done by them too... I remember Mankind has a very hilarious quote: “Have you seen my mind? I think I lost it!” Lol😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@raymondayala2603]

@Be A Good Doga don’t think Bret Hart did the grunts.

[@616Entertainment]

Or the Headbangers, "I JUST SWALLOWED MY TOUNG RING!" lol

[@616Entertainment]

He did indeed, his promos and voice overs were recorded long before he left.

[@BeAGoodDoga]

616Entertainment I never played as The Headbangers all that often... I seem to remember The Undertaker’s grunts we’re also used for Kane too, as Kane didn’t speak at the time. And ‘Taker’s quote being something about “The Lord Of Darkness”. It’s been ages since I last played it, so I don’t remember the full line.

[@raymondayala2603]

@616Entertainment have you heard them?, they sound nothing like Brett, the grunts, the voice is the same, but the grunting sounded like a teen forcing his voice.

[@TruthReviews]

I watch a LOT of KZbin. I enjoy your channel more than any other on KZbin. Thanks for all the hard work

[@616Entertainment]

Highly appreciated, dude. Thanks for watching!

[@TruthReviews]

616Entertainment I will become a patreon soon. I know just how much time it takes to make these. Have a great rest of your Xmas.

[@616Entertainment]

The Truth Reviews You too, my friend! And hey, becoming a Patron throws you into the giveaway, too!

[@Sh0ckmaster]

So many memories of this one. In the autumn of 1998 I read about this in a magazine (CVG I think) while I was on holiday, and being a huge wrestling fan I just had to have it for my PS1. I came home from vacation on a Sunday, and the next Monday I was back at school. After school I headed home and raided all my piggy banks and money boxes, and even a penny jar. I took the pennies to a bank close by, converted them in to a few £1 coins and went to the nearby electronics shop that also sold games. I remember the guy that took my money literally took about 3 minutes to count up all the coins, but it was enough and it was MINE! Heading home, the first wrestler I played as was Steve Austin vs Shawn Michaels in a weapons match. For reasons I can't remember I started a career mode playthrough as Mankind, but gave that up to play as Faarooq (As that unlocked "No Wimps" mode, that switched off the irritating blocking mode). I played the game obsessively for several months straight, even faking an illness to stay home on new years eve to play it. It also came in to it's own when I took the game to youth club. Four player Texas tornado tag match madness was fucking awesome! I didn't care that wrestlers like Bret Hart, British Bulldog and Ahmed Johnson were in the game despite having since left the WWF, the gameplay was that good it didn't matter. I also created many wrestlers in the game, including Mike Tyson, Bill Goldberg, Eggs (A big fat guy with a porn star moustache) and a girl wrestler called "Rachel Asskicker" or something, who was meant to resemble a girl from school I had a thing for. I eventually bought WWF Attitude, but it wasn't a patch on Warzone. The wrestlers seemed to only have about 6 moves, and it just wasn't as fun in some game modes (I'm looking at you 3 vs 1 matches). The next one I bought afterwards was WWF No Mercy on the N64. To date it's the last wrestling game I bought, partly because I wasn't a wrestling fan after WCW closed and because it was IMHO the best wrestling game ever made, Thanks for the trip down memory lane!

[@616Entertainment]

This story is amazing, man. Thank you for sharing! I love the guy called 'Eggs,' lol. And the creating a girl you liked from school is legendary.

[@RyanVentura604]

Thank you for this video and fully agree with everything you said. I felt the same way in 1998 playing this on my PS1 and it very much is a product of it's time. I can't play this game anymore and find any enjoyment in it, however I still have those memories as a kid that will live with me forever. Merry Christmas to you and yours!

[@616Entertainment]

Merry Christmas to you as well! Hang onto those memories man. Good times!

[@e.izaguirre2143]

I remember playing this in the Xmas of 98. I had the option to buy either this or Revenge, and I remember choosing Revenge because it looked awesome in the commercials. Thank god I made the right choice; I rented this game a couple of weeks after, and I hated it to death. It is a terrible piece of crap compared to Revenge.

[@616Entertainment]

See? That's exactly what I'm saying at the end of this video. You can't go BACK to War Zone. If you've experienced better wrestling games, it doesn't compute.

[@SakAttack87]

@@616Entertainment That's a very good point. When it comes to videogames, they usually age to become either timeless or outdated. This is especially true for the early 3D generation of consoles where there were a ton of growing pains in the mid 90s. Games like Revenge and No Mercy can still be a blast today, but Warzone definitely falls under the "outdated" category. It was fun at the time especially for us starved wrestling fans who were desperate for a new WWF game. Even back then though, once Revenge dropped nobody played Warzone ever again. The same can be said for Attitude the following year. Most people bought it upon release just to have the latest WWF game. It was a carbon copy of Warzone albeit with a much bigger roster to better represent the Attitude Era. As soon as WrestleMania 2000 came out a few months later, it was immediately obsolete.

[@hitek9too255]

@@SakAttack87 Not really. Revenge and Wrestlemania 2000 looks like absolutely shit with it's floaty arms and blocky wrestler models. Warzone and Attitude looks miles better and plays at a more realistic pace plus commentary. Warzone may have became obsolete but not Attitude as we still played the hell out of it even after Wrestlemania 2000. The people who bag on Warzone should remember how horrible wrestling games were before it.

[@SakAttack87]

@@hitek9too255 Trust me I logged some serious hours with both War Zone and Attitude. The AKI games did have blocky characters, but on the same not those Acclaim models weren't perfect and I especially hated how everyone appeared to have "paws" for some reason. There was a more rewarding learning curve with the gameplay of those games too since the controls were more intricate, however, the pick-up & play aspect of the N64 games is tough to match. I agree that War Zone does not get as much credit as it deserves for being the first 3D WWF game as well as pioneering the CAW feature. That is where I poured most of my time into those games.

[@kylewilkinson0416]

I had the N64 version, but I still had so much fucking fun with it. While it doesn't stand the test of time, the nostalgia makes it all worth it. Love this series, brother. Keep it up

[@616Entertainment]

Plenty more on the way, Kyle. Thanks for watching!

[@Casual__blackout]

best part was when the match was over you could still attack your opponent... I remember being bret hart and my cousin was stone cold, he starts hitting me then stone colds smiling face was in the middle of the screen. LOL

[@616Entertainment]

You're thinking of Attitude! In War Zone, once it's over, it's over.

[@jazzygang9972]

@@616Entertainment I agree with ya

[@haydendivine8412]

"Pretending" as background music. Love it. Wish they'd still tour

[@SuperDsx]

It would be great if you could do next retrospect on Xbox WWE games.

[@rickyrosay33977]

I'm still sad Xbox didn't got the same treatment that the playstation 2 and gamecube got although Raw 2 was ok

[@SuperDsx]

@@rickyrosay33977 I love raw 2 on Xbox it does have some problem but overall it was a good game.

[@rickyrosay33977]

However Raw 2 destroyed the playstation 2 and gamecube games in terms of customization it was fun to use any song as an entrance theme 😂

[@616Entertainment]

Their time will come. =)

[@Areala21]

Oh man, "Def Jam: Fight for NY"! I can't wait to see you go hog wild on this one! I never experienced "WWF War Zone", as my first 3D wrestling game was the original "Smackdown", but I can totally see what you're saying about the game being phenomenal back then because of what it was, but nothing to get fired up about today if you're lacking the nostalgia factor. Thanks so much for all your hard work on these. That enthusiasm is just SO contagious!

[@616Entertainment]

Highly appreciated, Areala21. =)

[@mbk907]

Ahmad Johnson no selling the tombstone 😂

[@616Entertainment]

Gotta love the baked in pin animations leading to full on no sells.

[@nycd4766]

I played the shit out of this game every day after junior high. What a time. One of the few of my ps1 games i still own.

[@616Entertainment]

The best days, right?

[@davidcrump9060]

Hey why don't you a series for all the smackdown vs raw games

[@thegloobster]

I think he's working on it, he already did the original Smackdown vs. Raw game, I can't imagine 2006 is TOO far down the line... I just wonder what will it be 2006 or No Mercy first... We'll just have to wait and see...

[@616Entertainment]

All of the SVR games is not going to happen. I explained why at the end of my History Of SmackDown! series. I really dislike 2008, I skipped 2009 and 2010, and 2011 is terrible. I can't really go in depth and speak with authority on games I didn't play, ya know? 2006 and 2007 are definitely on the table, though.

[@616Entertainment]

'06 and '07 may happen, No Mercy will definitely happen.

[@angelagwen1818]

616Entertainment it so breaks my heart you don’t like 08. It was my first wrestling game and I loved it. I played the career mode endlessly

[@Jay_Digital]

Boy you gotta be a certain kind of gamer to enjoy War Zone and Attitude........that was me. I have a fondness for these and can pick it up like it was yesterday.

[@616Entertainment]

HA. I love this.

[@danielliens5360]

I loved this game. It was the reason I got a Playstation. Also loved attitude, the build up to attitude was awful! Getting pushed back every month!!

[@thegloobster]

Finally! Another true man of culture

[@danielliens5360]

@@thegloobster I loved the complicated button chains to make moves too. Until I played Smackdown lol

[@matthawkins2974]

Attitude getting pushed back was agony man, played the shit out of it when it finally dropped

[@glenteakle2938]

Owen Hart's passing was a part of the reason it was delayed. They ended up dedicating the game to him.

[@danielliens5360]

@@glenteakle2938 that would make sense, but as a teenager it felt like it was pushed back a year!! Looking back it might of been 4 weeks but it felt like the whole summer. I kept buying every gaming magazine out just to see screen shots and get any last infomation I could out of it!

[@emilylouise614]

Love your videos man, so great watching my favourite old games being reviewed. Keep it up.

[@616Entertainment]

Highly appreciated, man.

[@Mbdxwwe18]

Shit this was my first Wrestling game I ever played

[@616Entertainment]

Not a bad place to start!

[@xemption]

I remember my first experience with WWF Warzone. Back in 1998 I got my first playstation as I had gotten an N64 along with world tour the prior year, my friends and I had a blast and of course became accustomed to the grappling system and it was so fun to play as we were huge WCW and WWF fans. So when I got my Playstation that year it came with CD sampler Vol. 8 where I had my first taste of the warzone demo. At the time seeing FMVs and CD quality audio was awesome and we finally got that in a 3d wrestling game. About 3 months later I traded a game for WWF Warzone and had an absolute blast playing it as a fan. Between creating my own custom character and going though the tower watching FMVs it was great for the time. I feel the same as you said where I feel like most that hated on this game more than likely played the N64 games first and then came back to this and then it became no comparison. Obviously it hasn't aged well but if you grew up playing it and are a fan, its fun to pop in and play from time again for nostalgia sake. BTW props on you for calling out the cue card reading for the wrestlers, I feel bulldog was the worst followed by Farooq. Great video as always, keep em coming.

[@616Entertainment]

Excellent comment. We had similar childhoods, lol. And yea man I have to call out that cue card reading. I don't have cue cards for my on camera parts, why the fuck does Bulldog need them?! lol

[@Jmjm-wl7pd]

Secound wrestling game i ever owned first was wcw vs the world takes me back shit im old lol

[@616Entertainment]

You and me both, man.

[@andysanchez1215]

I still like rewatching Ian videos from a few years back! I love them! ❤👍🏻😁

[@rickyrosay33977]

I hated war zone but I got used to the controls probably since I'm a big fighting game fan and I felt at home

[@616Entertainment]

You settle in, right?

[@rickyrosay33977]

Pretty much

[@DialSforSam]

Got War Zone for my 14th birthday back in '98. First game I owned for the Playstation. And just like you, I played the hell out of it.

[@616Entertainment]

At the time, we loved it!

[@WrecksOnTheBeat]

It sucked trying to figure out the finishers as a child lol

[@xsteveconwayx]

I think that's why they added a viewable move list during gameplay in WWF Attitude. Made it so much easier. I didn't have to remember shit.

[@616Entertainment]

You're not kidding, man.

[@shazam1384]

Maaaan i played a Lot this game when came out, even when i bought WWF attitide i still played warzone. GREAT VID AS ALWAYS! happy holidays Bro!

[@616Entertainment]

Thanks Shazam! Happy holidays to you as well!

[@shazam1384]

@@616Entertainment youre the best! XD

[@jay5286]

WWF attitude and warzone basically the same game just different roster

[@616Entertainment]

You're not wrong. Attitude had slight upgrades, but the engine is practically the same.

[@VisuallyImpairedGamer1987]

YES! I've been looking forward to this since it was announced! When I saw your MK retrospective and you talked about the memories you had playing MK 1 with your dad my mind immediately went to when I would play War Zone with my older brother and stepdad. My stepdad took the generic CAW named him Skinny Boy and gave him HBK's moveset and beat us all! Happy holidays to you good sir!

[@616Entertainment]

Dude I bet Skinny Boy was WWF Champion! lol. Thanks for watching!

[@VisuallyImpairedGamer1987]

@@616Entertainment No worries keep pumping out great content!

[@jax2433]

8:48 Pretty much every characters main taunt lol.

[@616Entertainment]

Hahahahaa

[@jasonshouseoffunandvideoga7169]

Nice job with the vid 616! I loved this game when it came out. Most wrestling games haven't aged well and this is no exception. I try to look past that when playing older games, wrestling or not.

[@616Entertainment]

Yea, it didn't age well at all, but the memories of the old days are still there. Thanks for watching!

[@unum1979]

Nah man. Knew the controls were trash when I powered this on on release day.

[@MedalWelder]

The blurred out Hogan bit at the start is the perfect summary for modern day WWE.

[@125henni]

The commentary in WWE real life kind sucks. They barely even call the match

[@rooneye]

Sooooo true. The absolutely TERRIBLE over corporate forced and coached commentary is one of the WORST things about WWE today. It's so bad. The corporate terms they use annoy the fuck out of me. There's no such thing as "fans" no more, it's now the STUPID term of "WWE universe". They're getting told to plug things and say things constantly on their headsets and you can tell. It just feels too sanitized and stifled. It's fucking awful. It makes watching WWE today, compared to the awesome JR and King days, horrible.

[@616Entertainment]

Can't argue with you there. The product as a whole is just really, really bad.

[@-JRL-]

It may not hold up well but I had a lot of fun playing this back in the day. Thanks for making this video. Merry Christmas.

[@616Entertainment]

Merry Xmas to you as well. Thanks for watching!

[@adubb315]

Amazing video- thank you for the content. I played the hell out of this game on PS1, loved every minute of it.

[@616Entertainment]

Man back in the day, it was fun!

[@michaelrichardson5562]

Amazing I've watched everyone of these retrospective videos.. please keep doing them

[@616Entertainment]

Plenty more on the way, Michael. Thanks for watching!

[@michaelrichardson5562]

@@616Entertainment hope so honestly love watching the retrospective videos 👍👍👍

[@robertoadame1989]

Great video like always brother I grow up playing this game for hours as a kid. 90 kids rock🤘

[@616Entertainment]

Thanks for watching, Roberto!

[@brockst9190]

Loved this video brotha. Agree with your opinion and normally always love your videos. Amazing breakdowns

[@616Entertainment]

Highly appreciated, dude. Thanks!

[@d_jacob7982]

Man, coming across your channel has been a saving grace. I remember Warzone coming out when I was in 4th grade and it was everything and more. Then a year later I went to KB toys to put a $10 down payment on Attitude. These videos bring back great nostalgia and I appreciate that. It was cool to see you were from Alsip. I’m from a surrounding suburb as well. Keep up the great work brother.

[@616Entertainment]

Thanks dude. Plenty more to come!

[@jeffroyADR]

I love how they recorded the promos in the world’s most reverberant warehouse.

[@616Entertainment]

It really is a head scratcher.

[@ZZIRHT]

Another great retrospective! Keep up the great work!

[@616Entertainment]

Thank you, I plan to!

[@bloodbathkrieg8010]

Underrated channel. Keep up the good work, merry Christmas my dude

[@616Entertainment]

Plenty more on the way. And hey, you too! Thanks for watching!

[@kingsektor2644]

Can’t wait for the fight for ny retrospective! Keep up the good work man.

[@616Entertainment]

Going to be awesome, man. Thanks for watching!

[@ulisescorpus1965]

I got this for christmas for the ps and really liked it, maybe because i didnt own a n64, i played all the next games that used that engine and have fond memories of them.

[@616Entertainment]

Love those good memories, man.

[@IM_ProphetSoup]

Warzone was amazing to me back then. I have so many positive memories this game. Even had the strategy guide to know all the moves (PS1 version) This video literally put a smile on my face (for the good and bad).

[@616Entertainment]

Thanks for watching, Sean. Glad you liked it!

[@earlsanders1468]

I was about 8 years old when this game came out and I played it with my cousin for hours. I was truly hyped for it not knowing what future games would be. Now at the age of 32, it’s hard to play this game through because of the games that came after it. I can see how people trash it but I still like it for nostalgia purposes. You just had to have been there back in that time to experience that wonderful era.

[@616Entertainment]

There's still charm to it, no doubt.

[@superg096devia4]

Man I hope you have a great holiday today, keep up the great work man

[@616Entertainment]

You too, my friend!

[@megavolnutt4629]

Great video! Just found your channel. It would be cool to see you do a retrospective of Warzone's sequel, WWF Attitude. More wrestlers, more CAW options, more unlockables. The only thing missing from Warzone were the promos.

[@616Entertainment]

It'll happen, don't worry. =)