WWSD - Loading & Press Checks

[@vicariousreality6176]

The only thought I can offer in regards to the crossover technique is to be mindful that newer USGI tan and blue follower magazines feed the top round from the opposite side, so you need to be mindful of the equipment you are using at the time.

[@509Gman]

Observe ammo orientation in magazine. Insert magazine into rifle. Run the bolt (w/ catch or charging handle as applicable). Remove magazine. Observe ammo orientation. If different from step 1, congratulations! Your rifle is loaded.

[@ths630]

On the USMC kd ranges Ive seen the carry handle brass check induce a stoppage when the bolt was pulled back too far. Ive taught my marines the crossover method whenever i gave range briefs and those who took the advice found it much faster and less finicky

[@Purple_Wayne]

Of every AR-15 I've seen come out in the last decade, the WWSD is hands down the most logically thought out, no bs rifle.

[@AngusPearson]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the primary function of the scallop cut in the bolt is to be a cam surface/gap for the cover detent housing to push the dust cover open when the bolt moves back, but it also doubles as a reasonable place to push the bolt forward if you don’t have a forward assist

[@markwelch9250]

Speaking from a military stand point, press checks for recruits and green Marines(soldiers, what ever branch) at least from my experience, was a great way of instilling confidence that the weapon was loaded. When new to military style shooting and going through training with all its stresses, press checking helped with familiarizing the person with the weapon and making them confident in its functions. Just my personal opinion based off my experience.

[@HAYAOLEONE]

Press checks create doubt.

[@jurerai]

@@HAYAOLEONE and doubt creates press checks.

[@HAYAOLEONE]

@@jurerai 😁 yep

[@HAYAOLEONE]

@James Kelly I have nothing against the forward assist. Opinion on doubts×press checks?

[@VosperCDN]

Seen the crossover method before, but the USMC one was new to me, thanks for another info bit.

[@todroach3738]

Good solid, fundamental information. Good tips for new shooters and a nice refresher for experienced shooters. Always good to revisit best practices or think about new ones.

[@misterdeluxia5948]

i love watching technical vids like this even if i cant own an AR, theyre so cool

[@JimDangle-z5t]

Your cross over method is how our swat commander teaches our team and all of patrol to load their rifles. As all police rifles ride in the car loaded mag, empty chamber. It’s simple, and eliminates messing with the bolt 👍

[@PaletoB]

My preferred method as well, but theoretically every method is a compromise, in this case you have to check the magazine both before and after to be sure.

[@tugboatyan]

As a bonus, the crossover technique works without modification on every double-stack, double-feed weapon system in the world, including weapons that you really can’t press check.

[@bobsmoot2392]

And the mag has to be FULLY loaded to cross check. If not, every other round will give false positive.

[@MadMadCommando]

I wonder if that comes from the MP5 days. Roller delayed guns can’t be press checked because they need a significant amount of momentum to get into battery

[@tommihommi1]

@@bobsmoot2392 no, you just look at the mag before and after loading the round

[@ridezosmon2306]

Pretty nice method to do these kind of checks, I'd personally opt for the mag check only but these are all concepts I didn't know before, thanks mate!

[@erlandjohansen7195]

Locking the bolt to the rear before inserting the mag is the method currently taught by the Norwegian armed forces, same with the tug on the mag for all reloads and checking that the top round has moved if you need to verify that you have a loaded chamber. There is no drill I'm aware of here in Norway that uses the forward assist for anything, and all the insteuctors I've spoken to has said never to use it for anything.

[@petesheppard1709]

Good, simple video. Military presentation: Tell what you're presenting, present the subject, THEN tell what you just presented! The 'grip the stock and use the thumb' method for checking is new to me--THANKS! I can see where someone might want to be quiet when checking, so they'd want to ease the bolt back in battery, then push on the bolt notch to ensure lockup.

[@mikehenthorn1778]

as the cpo or gunny says " you will see this again"

[@Jesses001]

You should show everyone how well that scalloped cut works for closing the bolt when slightly out of battery. After I worked with it a while, I found pushing on the scalloped cut works better than the forward assist.

[@Shieldsz]

It works, but on hot dirty gun it might not be ideal. Oily/bloody fingers can also be problematic.

[@petesheppard1709]

That was why Stoner didn't see the need for a forward assist.

[@johnwitherell6662]

Try doing it on a case that doesn't already have the extractor over the rim. It won't work, you won't be able to press hard enough.

[@TimberwolfCY]

@@johnwitherell6662 If that's the case, the rifle has problems that do not involve proper manipulations or a 'missing' FA.

[@johnwitherell6662]

@@TimberwolfCY And what makes you think that? The AR-15 is a push feed gun and the extractor will not slip over the rim until it is just entering battery. This means literally any failure to feed/chamber.

[@beargillium2369]

When you think about 8 million conscripts riding the bolt forward the assist starts to makes sense from an "oh my Lord I can't believe these boys will not listen to instructions" point of view😂😂😂

[@tugboatyan]

And then people who were taught this method because of institutional reasons insist that everyone else is wrong because "Big Army taught me to do it one way and by God there is no fathomable reason that anyone else could possibly have a reasonable alternative point, now kiss my DD-214 like the Pope's ring." Like someone insisting that a manual safety is mandatory on all weapons because the M17 has one.

[@HydraHolden]

Boy am I sure glad the US military isn't a conscript army, or you and I would be in some serious doo doo.

[@beargillium2369]

@@HydraHolden there has been a draft before, but considering I'm over 26, and also considering the situation would likely be dire enough that I'd probably sign up, I wouldn't consider it doo doo

[@warrenharrison9490]

Interested in how safety is engaged regardless of trigger group condition.

[@wyattp9152]

It's the KeArms trigger group that comes with the wwsd. You can also get them separately.

[@AlexanderEddy]

As Wyatt says, it's the type of trigger in there. If you have a mil-spec trigger and you want to make sure you're on safe when you're chambering a round, you can charge the rifle with an empty mag (locking the bolt to the rear), put it on safe, pop in a loaded mag and then drop the bolt. That's how I was shown how to load an AR.

[@Mr79dream]

just depends on the thickness of the lever, that engages with the safety. But it is usually a deigne decision.

[@509Gman]

@@AlexanderEddy or you could just lock the bolt to the rear with the bolt catch as designed. No need to bring an empty mag into the equation.

[@berryreading4809]

It seems to be easier to include the design on cassette style triggers... sadly cassette style triggers typically have more issues than classic AR style triggers because they often rely on velocity over hammer mass, which requires pretty stringent spring specifications to have primer strike power while keeping a short reset and extremely light trigger pull. I'm not a fan of most, but I'm sure KE arms focused on reliability as a top design and engineering goal, lots of other brands just chase split times it seems 🤷‍♂️ I've never seen KE triggers causing unintentional doubles in person or on video like a few of the other big name cassette trigger brands.

[@miketaylorID1]

“..in a properly maintained gun.”

[@509Gman]

He’s not talking about cleaning, as you can see.

[@Pyreleaf]

thgreatandini I think I recall Karl saying once that he has a bad habit of almost never cleaning his ARs, he just adds more lube when they need it. Probably a testament to how good that hard chromed BCG is.

[@Craterfist]

These are actually questions I've had for a while and couldn't find info on, thanks Karl

[@ben501st]

Press checking is useful in hunting situations where slingshoting isnt great for staying quiet in the woods.

[@spondulixtanstaafl7887]

Thanks for the simple and clear presentation of a necessary, fundamental action in regards to AR operation.

[@DeviantOllam]

"If you're tugging, it's in there." ... one for the quote wall. 😉👍

[@jmullner76]

Thanks for the video, Karl.

[@pistolgrip44mag]

Also, if you can not close the dust cover, you may not be in battery.

[@TacgnolSimulacrum]

Bold of you to assume people properly maintain their guns :D

[@3of11]

The sound and feel of a gun that’s properly chambered a round and one that chambered air or out of battery are all noticeably different. Lock bolt back, insert mag, tug mag, drop bolt, close dust cover. Dust cover won’t close on an out of battery bolt. Load 28 not because of springs but because the force required to insert on closed bolts is less, very handy for a reload. No press check needed. If you have time to do a press check you have time to properly and calmly load the thing and be able to tell by feel that it took a round and did seat fully without any press checks. If you struggle with any of this. Get an AK

[@HAYAOLEONE]

lol exactly.

[@joe2d]

To be honest if anyone struggle with any of this just don't go near guns, cause they're probably a safety hazard anyway.

[@MrBelegus]

Oh boy, that Laibach shirt. A surprise for sure, but not an unwelcome one.

[@robertkitchen2779]

love that sound

[@1ohtaf1]

I'm pretty sure the scallop on the bolt is for the detent assembly on the dust cover.

[@Nagger666]

Multi purpose

[@MarvinCZ]

That wouldn't require such a large scallop, that purpose could be filled with much less machining.

[@sixfivearms8896]

Jacob Bynum of Rifles Only explained the concept of the press check - using it to justify the Forward Assist - as you have demonstrated, However, he noted that often one wants to do it as quietly as possible - such as when one is in a "stack" about to storm into a building and one wants to double-check that his weapon is loaded - and that means riding the charging handle carefully home as it re-seats the round. That's how he justified the Forward Assist. He did NOT say to use the FA to seat a stubborn round. Having said that, I hate the clunkiness of the FA, and only buy Aero slick-sided uppers. Then again, I'm never gonna be in a stack that's about to force entry.

[@karatos]

In that situation, they should have loaded their rifles well before getting into a stack. If they had been engaged while merely approaching they would be SOL with a cold gun, yeah? Bad move. Anyone waiting till they are at the door to load and make ready has already put their entire team at risk.

[@MarvinCZ]

The scallop on the bolt works great even for that situation, no need for a forward assist.

[@TheOz91]

From the storming the building part, a lot of people use MP5s. And the MP5 doesn't have a FA and the roller delayed blowback needs the full force of the spring and some momentum for it to properly close. Do you load it quietly, too? There are some HK guns with FAs but they specifically it "silent bolt closure devices," though the only weapon system that is actually popular with it is the HK11/21/23 (the HK416 doesn't count)

[@Pilotmario]

@@TheOz91 Didn’t the PSG1/MSG-90 have it?

[@sixfivearms8896]

@@karatos Agree with Orion that breachers should have loaded and checked their weapon long before getting into stacked position. But that's how Bynum explained it to me. Don't know standard SWAT or military procedures.

[@lowellhouser7731]

InRangeTV brings you the latest ep of People Get Hung Up on Dumb Things.

[@casek6930]

Laibach, cool. I don't have any of their music except their remixes of Morbid Angel, which was amazing.

[@Rake3577]

One of the gun safety rules is to treat every weapon as if it’s loaded until you personally check other wise (of course even then it’s better to keep treating it like it’s loaded because complacency could lead to negligence), even if someone loaded a weapon in front of me and hands it to me I will check again myself, that’s when a press check might come in handy

[@chemistrykrang8065]

Why would somebody pass a loaded gun to you? That's an unnecessary risk - if you fumble or drop the gun the muzzle might end up pointing somewhere you didn't intend it to, and the instinct is to grab if you feel something slipping, and that can (and has) resulted in fingers grabbing triggers unintentionally. There's a reason dropping a gun is an instant disqualification in competition. Just pass the gun unloaded (or at least with an unloaded chamber) and chamber a round when you've got full control of it and are ready to shoot. I can't really see a case where it's necessary to chamber a round then pass the gun to somebody else. If you're not passing a loaded gun, then you obviously check it, but you're checking it is clear - so no press check needed. I can sort of see the point of a press check if you've loaded and are in a situation where a "click" would be a bad thing (hunting maybe?) but it isn't really a safety check.

[@araknidude]

@@chemistrykrang8065 weirder shit has happened

[@BallstinkBaron]

@@chemistrykrang8065 some people just make bad decisions and hand you loaded guns. They may have a different, less safety-oriented gun culture. Or maybe something else. Regardless, better to know what to do in a situation, esp if unexpected, than not.

[@MarvinCZ]

Checking whether a gun someone handed to you is really unloaded is just good sense. Checking whether a gun someone handed to you is really loaded seems weird. Handling someone a knowingly loaded gun smacks of bad decisions. Edit: Perhaps with the exception of absolute newbies who put their hands in place, receive a loaded gun and aren't supposed to do anything other than pulling the trigger. They won't be checking whether the gun is loaded though.

[@AdamantLightLP]

@BallstinkBaron Okay, then pull the mag and clear the gun. There's zero reason to check that it is loaded.

[@joet.s.6283]

Not going to lie, I was expecting a 45 second video

[@Motoboo_Marine]

KZbin Shorts has ruined us :(

[@Boomblebee123]

Karl: uploads video Fudds: REEEEE

[@inertjefe3906]

As an AR owner I instinctively ride that phat rod forward

[@Mercazoid]

Much love for the Laibach shirt.

[@geofftimm2291]

1972 Tigerland, North Fort Polk, LA. In US Army basic we were never taught a "Press check." Geoff Who notes for the historical record.

[@tobyzalas9785]

I've noticed in the past you wearing a Skinny Puppy shirt or hoodie and now Laibach, well done.

[@bobsmoot2392]

Always interesting and helpful. Thanks, Karl.

[@InrangeTv]

Glad it was helpful!

[@ghengisswanson3923]

I can hear the FA nerds screeching into the void from my porcelain throne while watching this Incredible I dont have an FA and have never bothered with press checks because I know my rifle is loaded. That said I'm gonna test that technique you showed when I finish my business

[@guigui78340]

i’d like see different methods on how you remedy a failure to go fully into battery.

[@genericpersonx333]

Well, the classic is pull the magazine, eject the cartridge if any, reset magazine, reload, and see if gun goes into battery. Minor fouling will usually be overcome by this. If gun still fails to go into battery, check magazine for obvious obstructions such as small pebbles or other fouling. If no obvious fouling of magazine, use a different magazine that is clean. If gun still fails, check breech for extreme fouling or tiny pebbles in the locking lugs/recesses. If yes on extreme fouling, just clean the gun like a civilized person unless you are in a Blackhawk Down Scenario, in which case press very hard on the scallop in the bolt. If obstructions such as tiny pebbles is found in the mechanism, remove them. This is by far the most likely cause of an out-of-battery that does not involve a bad magazine. If the gun still fails, strip the gun and inspect carefully, especially the locking lugs. As you can see, not a lot should be able to stop an AR15 from going into battery except literally stuff like tiny pebbles in the magazine, locking lugs and their recesses. An extremely fouled action with certain kinds of dust, dirt, or powder residue will have so much friction that you may need to use the scallop, but a gun that dirty should be cleaned anyway. If checking the magazine and mechanism for fouling and obstructions fails to show anything, you may have bad springs or even possible damage to the locking lugs, which is not common.

[@zul448]

@@genericpersonx333 Yep, this. Not sure what other method would be as effective. Certainly bashing the bolt forward isn't going to do anything but make things worse.

[@TheOz91]

@@zul448 Exactly. If you need to force it into battery after the first time, then the gun won't cycle anyway, so you have an entirely different issue.

[@kenlandrover]

Just picked up my stripped KP-15 (FDE) lower from my FFL, a Gunsmith for more than 40 years. He said "why on earth do you want polymer?". Ha ha can't wait to show him the finished product.

[@StrangerOman]

Never thought about crossover technique. If you know your gear, that should be good. You don't even need to think about it what side it on. Just feel on what side it is. Charge it, check it if the side is changed. Cut is more than enough to give it a small push. If it doesn't go into battery, don't force it...

[@rmbion]

Very informative

[@sand0609]

Cool in the Canadian army the crossover check method is also taught.

[@TheOz91]

I find it interesting that the Canadian Army, part of the SOP for loading is *striking* the forward assist.

[@bluefalconssuck5881]

Good Class. Direct and with purpose, without added "ifs" and "Yeahbuts".

[@rcairnut]

bravo thanks for the refresher/reminder video. I learned the scallop push in basic USAF 1971 (no FA's on USAF rifles at that time).

[@TheOz91]

OMG this is exactly the info I was looking for (and thank you for your service, sir)

[@rcairnut]

@@TheOz91 your welcome, FYI the rifle I used was an old well worn 601 with replaced parts and green plaint splotches still on the brown Bakelite furniture. I pulled it from the rack and RO said with a laugh; "you want that one? must like the old ladies then". I didn't get it then, but it is funny now.

[@TheOz91]

@@rcairnut Haha nice. I hope that old girl shot straight even when well worn! I heard also from other USAF veterans (more recent ones) that the forward assist isn't even SOP, since the Air Force didn't even want the forward assist. I wonder if it was taught to be used as a last resort to get the rifle into battery.

[@rcairnut]

@@TheOz91 Well we where shown this on the line after I picked my rifle by the RO, maybe because I had the most worn-out gun in the rack? lol, Not sure but the RO stood near me the entire day, he helped me clear my first jam, a bad mag. the gun ran well after that with a diff mag.

[@TheOz91]

@@rcairnut Yeah, most people don't understand that most of the jams suffered by M16 platforms is the magazine

[@fleetadmiralchompa]

Great vid, always something new to learn! Love your content, thanks, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year!

[@wormyboot]

The thing I like about the forward assist is that I can access it without having to take my firing hand off the grip. I get their points but I still prefer having a forward assist.

[@Chiller01]

Basic but necessary information. Thanks.

[@matt4952]

Thank you, Karl.

[@InrangeTv]

You bet!

[@ihcfn]

I'll probably never have to do this unless I travel to the US but, thanks, very interesting.

[@donaldweber7636]

...but...but...but...if I am hunting werewolves and I need to be EXTRA quiet and so have to ride the bolt home AND I covered the bolt with grease for extra lubrication, I need the forward assist.

[@R1NR4N]

I'm definitely seeing why Eugene Stoner considered the forward assist superfluous; it's like the rifle equivalent of those magnetic bracelets.

[@IvorMektin1701]

Stoner was wrong

[@spldrong]

FA is definitely needed for combat condition. Insert a fresh 30 under that loaded bolt and after u do a press check, it wont go forward. Also, walk 10k with that loaded rifle, maybe u accidentally snag the charging handle? FA tap to be sure

[@MarvinCZ]

@@spldrong Or just use the convenient scallop on the bolt...

[@TheOz91]

@@MarvinCZ Exactly. Or pull the bolt part way and let it sling forward, like was being demonstrated by the press check. Meanwhile, other guns that don't have forward assists with non-reciprocating bolt handles have been used for decades in combat conditions (like the FAL) work just fine

[@WarpathActual]

The “scallop” on the bolt carrier is not for thumbing the bolt forward. It is there so you can actually close the ejection port cover, and automatically opening the cover after firing.

[@509Gman]

God forbid that a thing accomplish a task it wasn’t intentionally designed for.

[@WarpathActual]

@@509Gman god forbid we would be accurate when talking about “what stoner would do”.

[@RubyRoks]

Very useful video

[@JG54206]

So it is fairly normal to need to give the mag a good smack to seat it when it’s full or nearly full and the bolt is closed? I thought it was just my gun.

[@Kevin-bz8dx]

Yes, inserting a magazine with the bolt forward requires you to push all the rounds down slightly, and a full 30 round GI mag doesn't have a lot of room to spare. An old workaround is to only load them to 28 for more reliable insertion. Newer magazines like P-mags are designed with a bit more give, and you could even fit 31-32 in there if you force it (not advised)

[@steveh1792]

It's not just AR's, either.

[@JG54206]

For me brand new pmags require a firm seating and I have been following up with a good smack. They’re brand new mags though and as I understand it you’re meant to load full magazines with the bolt open.

[@BukkNutty1]

@inRangeTV what do you think of this build? I did a WWSD2017 GWACS lower with a CMC single stage comp trigger and JP Scs buffer. Upper is cheap and i know there is lots of room for improvement. But its a BCA upper side charge with a KAK 18" mid - length with a Black Rifle Arms Bolt and Extractor. I was going to do a Faxon 16" in 7.62 but i dont know why the 18 seams more appealing. Carl and Ian what do you think and where to make it better

[@Naggstek]

Have button, will smash.

[@bradcampbell7253]

Many thanks Karl. I have 2 milspec lowers and really like what I have, and the cost and parts simplicity is awesome. Now, can you get us more video on Sinistral's new paint job? 😁

[@billybob-gb6ol]

Can't wait until the nerds i follow on Twitter discover this the fighting will be glorious

[@pplebite8844]

BUFFER SPRINGS MATTER! BUFFER SPRINGS MATTER! BUFFER SPRINGS MATTER! 🎈

[@DarkSeidh]

Hey Karl, I recently received my WWSD 2020. I purchased it as my first rifle, so forgive me if this is ignorance, but the pivot pin has a significant amount of wobble in the upper receiver. Is this normal for the AR platform or the WWSD 2020 as a rifle?

[@DPSocrates]

I have the same issue. And the kp-15 directions say the front pivot will be tight. I think the wwsd uppers are smaller where they fit into the kp15 lower at the front and that is why it's sloppy.

[@InrangeTv]

Sloppy is subjective, but almost all ARs have some upper/lower wobble fit, both my WWSDs included. As long as everything aligns and the gun works, it should be fine, but I can understand your concern over that being your first rifle. I hope you're enjoying it otherwise!

[@mattfleming86]

It only matters when BOTH pins are in. If it is sloppy loose then, something might be out of spec then. My 2 lock up reasonably tight when both pins are in. One is tighter than the other on the front pin (depending on the upper installed. If I switch, the problem switches with the uppers) but tbh as long as your hammer geometry is good and you're not sloppy enough to hurt accuracy it doesn't matter one bit. I think with the polymer and the pin that can rotate it just "feels" different. If I put a std. lower on that one upper, it has a little jiggle too.

[@DarkSeidh]

@@InrangeTv I'm greatly enjoying it so far, it's a beautiful firearm and functioned perfectly on the first range trip through 60 rounds. The lack of weight compared to other AR-15s I've handled is absolutely remarkable. I meant that the pin itself has slop in the bore of the upper receiver. Thank you for your prompt reply.

[@justinhadababyitsaboy7477]

@@DarkSeidh My first AR (a bushmaster) was a little loose, I made some spacers and ended with a tight fit. I'm pretty sure I've seen some for sale too. The one I have now is extremely tight, you have to use a punch or a bullet to push the take down pins out. That little wobble used to annoy me so much lol

[@graypatriot1299]

thank you

[@wedreamtogether]

Nice Laibach shirt!

[@TheKalkara131]

But the pushing the button makes Mrgunsngear happy

[@IRMacGuyver]

When you ship a gun internationally are you basically selling it to the guy that imports it and then buying it back?

[@pcarrierorange]

Something something possession is nine-tenths of ownership something something

[@schlemihlrosenzweig3780]

You dont need to. Karl got an invitation to the match in Finnland, and is allowed to bring his rifle there, so no need to "sell" it. Les was just doing the paperwork and organisation of the temporary transfer to and back from Finnland.

[@Wolf_Avery]

I figured it has something to do with an 08 FFL but I’m curious as well.

[@keepyourbilsteins]

Last upper I put together for myself didn't have a sniper button on it. Amazingly, I can still hit targets without it.

[@beeleo]

People saying, "But it doesn't have a forward assist" is on the same level as, "But this one goes to ELEVEN."

[@Nadaters]

been on the fence for months about maybe saving up and buying a complete WWSD or building one from scratch (but I've never built an AR before and am not entirely sure which parts to get that are lightweight and reliable)

[@TheKalkara131]

Building one isn't that hard, if you take your time and watch some decent instructional videos.

[@chemistrykrang8065]

There are videos on this channel about all the parts in the WWSD build.

[@mattfleming86]

Build! If you are willing to gain half a pound, you can get more common parts, or more precision based barrels (for only 3oz), and/or choose parts that are just right for YOUR needs. If you build an AR it gives you better knowledge of how the system works. I haven't purchased a complete gun since I built my first.

[@Pyreleaf]

The hardest parts of building an AR are installing the detent pins & springs, and driving roll pins. If you can handle that, the rest is dead simple. I'm not familiar with the KP15 lower, but as far as traditional aluminum receiver sets go, you can make it extra easy on yourself by getting an Aero Precision M4E1 set, with a no forward assist upper. That way, the only roll pin you have to drive will be for the gas block.

[@TimberwolfCY]

My single biggest annoyance at this point is getting the gas tube aligned. It's been a pain in the ass, NGL

[@JG54206]

Is that a micro acog? Is there a reason you switched away from just the red dot with a qd magnifier?

[@Adcomb]

I'm a crossover check man for sure.

[@richwhitaker1506]

As is often the case, K. I. S. S. Thanks Karl.

[@nataliedeyton6829]

I use a AR to hunt with and when I get in the woods I will drop the bolt and then pull the mag out to see if it picked up a round..... pretty simple

[@kirbyjohnson3756]

How can you tell by looking at the mag that it's one round shy of a full mag

[@robsprocket]

@@kirbyjohnson3756 look on youtube, maybe there's a video that can explain it to you? facepalm.

[@MarvinCZ]

@@kirbyjohnson3756 This exact video explains it.

[@Havok0159]

MUST SMASH BUTTON!

[@supmonkeyface]

Why does everyone make such a big deal about the FA? Get one, don’t get one, who cares?

[@willblack7353]

People are elitists. They think they are smarter than everyone else. I think its called the Dunning Kruger effect.

[@zee7056]

@@Matt-xc6sp I think you're right even though he could have accomplished the same thing by pulling the charging handle and chambering a new round.

[@IvorMektin1701]

@@zee7056 Except Grosskreutz would have killed Rittenhouse by then. One tenth of a second delay was too long.

[@sodapop9mm562]

@@zee7056 sometimes ripping an unfired round out with a mag, especially if almost full, inserted can cause the round to get stuck in the chamber. I’ve had it happen twice, once during a competition and once when just training.

[@dennisjones9044]

I botched loading the AR enough to actually feel/hear whether it picked up a round or not :P

[@randyrandalman2066]

Good info, thanks Karl

[@gabeeg]

WWLD - What would Laibach do, the InRange hammer....coming soon ? :)

[@Untamo82]

Is there a technique to silently chamber a round, as in make the extractor claw engage silently, without forward assist?

[@Kevin-bz8dx]

Yes, you can use the cutout in the carrier to push it forward

[@Untamo82]

@@Kevin-bz8dx I tried that with my "AR-10" (HK MR308), but couldn't do it. Had to assist with the assist :) ... But I'm a weak nerd. I assume it's a bit easier with the 223 AR-15?

[@Kevin-bz8dx]

On an AR15 is should be pretty easy - since the FA also pushes on the BCG directly, the force needed is comparable. Now as for the MR308 - knowing how strong the HK416 spring is, I can only imagine the 308 takes a medium sized hammer to drive home.

[@vignesham4030]

Now you've removed a reason to do some people's favourite activity: Smack things that don't work until it starts to work.

[@Hostilenemy]

Are the tactics discussed in this video approved by Dixie Waste Management?

[@tugboatyan]

No. This is why Empire Waste Services is now the official match sponsor of Desert Brutality.

[@daleearnest9665]

sorry if this is a stupid question but could a WWSD lower be used with a .458 socom upper?

[@dcstiger]

KE Arms/Russell do not recommend pairing the lower with big bore. They never tested the viability of using big bore. Try at your own risk. However I'm sure there are people out there that have tried it. It might be worth looking for discussions on forums ect. that have some real world experience with the subject.

[@daleearnest9665]

@@dcstiger thanks

[@gunterstraus606]

Hey Karl. I'm loving the wwsd 2021 lower, but I was curious if we will see an upper made available at some point or should the parts be acquired at will?

[@InrangeTv]

Actually, they’ll should be available in the next 1-2 months. Details TBD!

[@gunterstraus606]

@@InrangeTv Excellent. That's good to hear. I was considering putting a slick side carry handle upper on one to get that elevated sight mount for the real retro vibe with the modern barrel and handguard

[@zul448]

@@InrangeTv That's great news. I also got a WWSD 2021 (OD!) lower. It's awesome, and I thought I'd be satisfied pairing it with my current selection of uppers, but lately I've been wanting to pair it with a more appropriate WWSD-style upper. Being able to buy the actual parts or a complete upper from KE/Brownells would be nice.

[@chriszoomist]

From what I understand the FA is really beneficial when the gun is suppressed and in cold weather

[@randomnobodovsky3692]

If by cold weather you mean possibility of bolt carrier freezing in the rear position, you may want to check this before you actually need it. But please check it with dummy round, saves you a lot of trouble. (Long story short: check how far back the bolt carrier can be with FA still working).

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

*smashes the button*

[@andik.4235]

This rifle with less buttons to push seems to advanced for some potential users, despite the lack of a forward assist is a step back regarding the development of the AR 15. And a step twoards the right direction in my book, because I have on, but I never used it.

[@iainwalker8701]

No where near as life changing as Russell's video on where to store the pins... Lol

[@siestatime4638]

It sounds as if you've been getting comments from someone trying to find a justification for the forward assist.

[@MrAlexthemachine]

Naa thanks Karl but I'll keep the forward assist.

[@DejectedCat]

So never ride the handle forward...?

[@InrangeTv]

Never.

[@justthetip7136]

hey Karl, what optic is that?

[@InrangeTv]

1.5X ACOG

[@heinrichfuhrmeister1244]

I still think forward assist is nice to have. It doesn’t really hurt anything

[@kilroy5166]

Makes it harder to claw the charging handle with your fingers. Blocks the right hand side.

[@tugboatyan]

It doesn't hurt anything 99.5% of the time. Some 0.4% of the time it wastes time as people mash it when they should've focused on fixing the real problem, and 0.1% of the time it makes the problem worse or potentially catastrophic. It also doesn't help anything 99.5% of the time. Some 0.4% of the time it just duplicates a function that already exists on the rifle, and 0.1% of the time it actually does temporarily fix something that would have taken more time to fix properly. *All numbers pulled out of thin air for rhetorical purposes, because no one actually collects any data on this - all anyone ever has is anecdote and, once in a blue moon, footage of it being used (almost always to no avail).

[@heinrichfuhrmeister1244]

@@tugboatyan tell me you dont train without telling me you don’t train

[@tugboatyan]

@@heinrichfuhrmeister1244 Feel free to make whatever wild-ass extrapolations comfort you.

[@giarcsavage]

REEEEEEE!!! heretic! i need muh sniper button! good video man, never heard of the crossover method.

[@sabregunner1]

I find it hilarious that not having a forward assist affects loading a magazine

[@TimberwolfCY]

Only if you're completely inept, or new.

[@MarvinCZ]

Does it?

[@sabregunner1]

@@MarvinCZ it doesn't at all. It has no effect on whether or not you can insert a magazine or let alone chamber a round in the rifle.

[@williamcrawford7982]

Check 👍

[@ethantoy917]

What trigger is he using?

[@InrangeTv]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJDcfHyZra92f9k

[@CarbonVirus]

what sighting system is that?

[@hvymtal8566]

Gee, it's almost as if the forward assist is a superfluous addition that adds weight and increases the opportunities for 19 year olds to break it

[@Sigma-0007_Septem]

Don't Smash the forward assist button But do smash the Like button on the video Also I wonder what the forward assist people would do if they were forced to use G3s(or any other no ar-15 type) meaning non forward assist Probably go mad

[@TheOz91]

That's exactly what I think! The FAL didn't have a forward assist (no reciprocating charging handle, used for decades). The G3, as you mentioned, no forward assist. The AUG, no forward assist. And several other guns with non-reciprocating charging handles with no forward assist that has been used for decades.

[@NomadShadow1]

Cool