WWSD rifle | 12.5" Commando setup

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Polenar Tactical

Polenar Tactical

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@isaace8090
@isaace8090 8 ай бұрын
ATF agents are big sad right now after they googled that Slovenia isn't a U.S. state.
@AlexLee-dc2vb
@AlexLee-dc2vb 8 ай бұрын
Me after seeing the thumbnail: "ah, surely he'll buy a shorter barrel and handguard from Faxon." *Slovenian elf with hacksaw enters video*
@JimYeats
@JimYeats 8 ай бұрын
Hacksaw works fine. Doesn’t really matter how you chop the barrel initially as long as it’s reasonably square. You’re squaring and crowning after that. Good as new.
@douglasb5651
@douglasb5651 8 ай бұрын
If you're really quiet during the hacksaw scenes, you can just hear Ian, Karl and Russel crying.
@berryreading4809
@berryreading4809 8 ай бұрын
Na probably just Karl... Never waste a good opportunity to be really offended while not really being offended! 🙃
@charlesadams7862
@charlesadams7862 8 ай бұрын
I really doubt Ian would care. The other 2 idk
@WTFisTingispingis
@WTFisTingispingis 8 ай бұрын
I can just hear the ATF going REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
@JoshJones-37334
@JoshJones-37334 8 ай бұрын
@@berryreading4809you should say that in AZ
@herecomesaregular8418
@herecomesaregular8418 8 ай бұрын
@@berryreading4809 What is this meant to be referencing?
@Schrodingers_kid
@Schrodingers_kid 8 ай бұрын
I can only respect the amount of dedication it takes to hack through the barrel with a hand saw
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
It was surprisingly easy - i thought barrels would be made from harder steel
@themastermason1
@themastermason1 8 ай бұрын
I pushed a jewelers saw to cut through a 3/4 inch steel square bar to open up a slot drilled into it. Poor saw was only meant to be used on 1mm thick stock.
@Schrodingers_kid
@Schrodingers_kid 8 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTactical So Wolfenstein WAS right...
@ayyyyph2797
@ayyyyph2797 8 ай бұрын
​@@PolenarTacticalI thought the barrel would be easy considering it's a pencil type
@lordhuck2689
@lordhuck2689 8 ай бұрын
Watching that barrel chop job felt like someone was rubbing cigarette ash in my eyes.
@JimYeats
@JimYeats 8 ай бұрын
One of the more common ways many folks do it. Doesn’t matter one iota as you’re squaring and crowning the barrel afterwords anyways. Hacksaw, bandsaw, lathe, whatevs.
@ratagris21
@ratagris21 8 ай бұрын
When the WWSD becomes an XM-177 clonish.
@user-greenleaf12
@user-greenleaf12 8 ай бұрын
Ish
@JohnZ556
@JohnZ556 8 ай бұрын
I'd be a bit worried about the stock. It is designed to withstand repeated impacts from the buffer during cycling and under spring tension all the time. But now it just lost over an inch of reinforcement.
@Auloss
@Auloss 8 ай бұрын
ish ish ish
@Paulowpalace
@Paulowpalace 8 ай бұрын
Finally someone else does a commando version of the WWSD besides Ian. Wish there was an airsoft version
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
Jari from Varusteleka also turned his into commando version :)
@Reticulosis
@Reticulosis 8 ай бұрын
Perfect, now install a forward assist, add a Cary handle with windage and elevation, forward post will help too, swap the fiberglass foregrip for a quad rail, change the pencil barrel for something heavier, lastly make it 3round burst
@JoshJones-37334
@JoshJones-37334 8 ай бұрын
Sounds awful
@lynx-alpha2073
@lynx-alpha2073 8 ай бұрын
You sound like you could out do mcnamara
@totenfurwotan4478
@totenfurwotan4478 8 ай бұрын
5:30 it’s more rigid as a shorter barrel as the whip at the end of the barrel creates less of a moment around the muzzle
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
that's my understanding
@sgthl
@sgthl 8 ай бұрын
Yes, "bad harmonics" as it´s called (unvanted vibration) is what causes it.
@coltonb9194
@coltonb9194 8 ай бұрын
I've heard reloaders have better luck with longer barrels, as the resonance frequency is greater with a longer barrel, making it easier to find the peaks of the waveform (node as reloaders call it, anti-node or maxima as physicists call it). I think a more rigid barrel shoots better across multiple loads. But long thin barrels can be tuned more easily. Not really relevant to most people for ARs, just an interesting topic
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
@@coltonb9194 long thin barrels? As far as i know all high precision shooter prefer thick and heavy barrels because of rigidity. Length only comes in question for long ranges where highest possible muzzle velocity is desired. The extreme of these you can see with benchrest where they have crazy thick barrels and those guys are after the ultimate accuracy
@jonathanwick1265
@jonathanwick1265 8 ай бұрын
Gunsmiff achievement unlocked 👍🏻
@3of11
@3of11 8 ай бұрын
Gonsmif
@DroppingBombs4ever
@DroppingBombs4ever 8 ай бұрын
He still looks like the Son of the President of Ukraine. 😎.
@PsihoKekec
@PsihoKekec 8 ай бұрын
When WWSD meets WWŽD.
@Jeff.78
@Jeff.78 8 ай бұрын
Best comment 🏆
@f308gtb1977
@f308gtb1977 8 ай бұрын
Shortening the barrel changes the dwell time but not the max pressure, so if was that crazy high, it does make sense you still ended up needing the adjustable gas block.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
The barrel has a 2mm gas hole drilled - probably intended for an adjustable gas block from the start
@thedumbguncollector5546
@thedumbguncollector5546 8 ай бұрын
This is amazing. Great job
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! :)
@userer4579
@userer4579 8 ай бұрын
Great job, yes. Amazing? No.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
@@userer4579 banned!
@rubezahlmountainworks7974
@rubezahlmountainworks7974 8 ай бұрын
More hacksaw tech. I dig it.
@M.M.83-U
@M.M.83-U 7 ай бұрын
As a very mechanically challenged person I appreciate this video. Plus the funny warm feeling from 12.5 being perfectly legal in the EU.
@Schrodingers_kid
@Schrodingers_kid 8 ай бұрын
5:32 I'm not an expert, but I believe I understand why that happens and I can explain it simply The longer the barrel is, the more tension it is under, because it's bending under its own weight, even if you can't see it with a naked eye, but this is more noticeable in thinner barrels for obvious reasons. If we make the barrel shorter - we shorten the lever and that tension goes away, which means we can bring out everyone's favourite HARMONICS of the barrel. So, basically, shortening the barrel the way you did, improved harmonics and therefore accuracy
@No1UKnowOf
@No1UKnowOf 8 ай бұрын
Ian is rolling over in his Kilt right now.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
Check out his Commando setup... mine is better 😆
@dum_potat
@dum_potat 8 ай бұрын
This is called professional gunsmithing, it works and good
@kiwi_comanche
@kiwi_comanche 8 ай бұрын
It turned out well dude!! Nicely done!!!
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@johnnewisland7720
@johnnewisland7720 8 ай бұрын
That feel when NFA...
@SuperHornedtoad
@SuperHornedtoad 8 ай бұрын
Was gonna say, this setup would have me saying RIP doggo
@adamadams6740
@adamadams6740 8 ай бұрын
That came out nice! Sweet set up,the power of the Hack saw!
@bogusphone8000
@bogusphone8000 8 ай бұрын
This, this is what freedom looks like.
@ert45ful
@ert45ful 8 ай бұрын
What in the Fallout gunsmithing was this…… I LOVE IT!!!!!
@maus9777
@maus9777 8 ай бұрын
Would really like to see a WWSD in this year's Finnish Brutality
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
Maybe, depends on what kind of theme we will decide for this year :)
@JoshJones-37334
@JoshJones-37334 8 ай бұрын
If you have a Melania theme we’ll all get to use it
@gordonstevens9074
@gordonstevens9074 8 ай бұрын
"What would stoner do?" The SR15. He helped make the KAC SR15.
@wookie-zh7go
@wookie-zh7go 8 ай бұрын
Seeing the weight set off my lick of the tysm, noice.
@robertjensen1438
@robertjensen1438 8 ай бұрын
During WW 2, a British commando is trained to drop into France and sabotage the enemy. He is given full training, and in his last session, he is told where he will be dropped and that a bicycle will be there for him so he will be able to move around easily. As he gets ready in the plane to jump out, he is told that he has a backup parachute in case the main one doesn't work. As he jumps out of the plane, the parachute doesn't open, so he tries to open the backup chute. That also fails to open. As he's falling down, he says to himself, " This is just great! With my luck, the bike isn't there either."
@jimmyofthesea1883
@jimmyofthesea1883 8 ай бұрын
He's a mad man.... A MAD MAN. I love it.
@Chris09978
@Chris09978 8 ай бұрын
Žiga cuts the barrel Americans reaction: you did what in your garage European firearm owner reaction: yeah thats fine
@janci9047
@janci9047 8 ай бұрын
Heresy! I love it
@kenadams2124
@kenadams2124 8 ай бұрын
Happy Birthday Žiga.🎉
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😁
@kenadams2124
@kenadams2124 8 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTacticalNever give up. We love you.🤟😎
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 8 ай бұрын
Oh gods Ziga. I had not expected that watching you with that hacksaw on that weapon would be so painful.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
You will then love our next video 😆
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 8 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTactical I somehow suspect not. Did you get tickets for FB or are your participation a given?
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
@@PalleRasmussen i have a reserved spot in the media squad - i will be there :)
@JoshuaCalvert80
@JoshuaCalvert80 8 ай бұрын
Love it! I didn't like the WWSD rifle initially, but this version i would buy.
@BeamMonsterZeus
@BeamMonsterZeus 4 ай бұрын
I didn't even know these things were possible on a WWSD. Wild.
@pistonar
@pistonar 8 ай бұрын
I thought the reason those use a carbine spring and buffer is that they had to build up the back end of the buffer 'tube' to handle the stress of functioning. I hope that cutting some of that off doesn't affect safety.
@SinistralRifleman
@SinistralRifleman 8 ай бұрын
You can’t go shorter than this. One section of the reinforcement ribs is still intact.
@johndavies6253
@johndavies6253 7 ай бұрын
So what if I understand you here, a desert eagle would be lighter with a short butt stock and a silencer? Awesome, where do we get one? Another great video guys, great work!
@not.an.operator
@not.an.operator 8 ай бұрын
Dude this is amazing. Thought this was a new model at first lol
@claykalmar8131
@claykalmar8131 8 ай бұрын
Your rifle looks real slick, now! Nice!
@UH1Phil
@UH1Phil 8 ай бұрын
The original M16A1 had a length of pull of 32,7cm. The M16A2 and WWSD have 34,3cm. So congrats to KE Arms who went against what Stoner would do, in order for many people to revert it into what Stoner actually would do.
@JoshJones-37334
@JoshJones-37334 8 ай бұрын
A1 is a modification
@donsal.t.1765
@donsal.t.1765 8 ай бұрын
Nice to see Primary Arms
@ErnestMas
@ErnestMas 8 ай бұрын
LMAO you're a savage for filming cutting a barrel 😂
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
We made a whole video about that - coming up in a week or so
@ErnestMas
@ErnestMas 8 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTactical #Sheenius
@Gideon_Judges6
@Gideon_Judges6 8 ай бұрын
Crazy that this hacksaw is a felony stateside. 😢
@Kesssuli
@Kesssuli 8 ай бұрын
In europe it should apply in every country how long gun(rifle,shotgun) have 600mm overall and 300mm for barrel. So in that sense we can have about 11.8 inch barrel and still call it a normal rifle.
@totenfurwotan4478
@totenfurwotan4478 8 ай бұрын
It’ll get you ruby ridged here
@onpsxmember
@onpsxmember 8 ай бұрын
@@Kesssuli While that is true about the length, shortening the barrel requires a new proofing since a pressure involved part was changed and the save function has to be tested. The chopping itself has to be done by a licensed gunsmith too.
@Kesssuli
@Kesssuli 8 ай бұрын
@@onpsxmember I think those have more to do with local laws than EU level. Least in here if you change barrel and do other radical changes then it had to be a proofed if you plan to sell it. For personal use that is not recuired. Also i dont think it is recuired by law that you cant chop a barrel by yourself but of course it is strongly recommend to leave that to professionals.
@deejayimm
@deejayimm 8 ай бұрын
It's not crazy. It's called incremental tyranny, and it actually very clever. If they keep it up, they might convince enough Americans to vote for the repeal of the 2A entirely. Honestly, they could almost do it now, judging by the amount of people who vote anti gun.
@Bravebelly
@Bravebelly 2 ай бұрын
That rifle is sweet. You have a good taste in firearms 👌🏼
@sgthl
@sgthl 8 ай бұрын
The barrel shortening and getting more accuracy thing is a real classic. That´s how the old Ruger mini-14s used to work. It sounds counter intuitive to get more accuracy from a shorter barrel but it´s because the barrel is bad to begin with. Long thin barrels with bad harmonics = garbage accuracy. The shortening takes the bad harmonics (vibration) out of it and you get more accuracy. Now guys please dont go shorten all your barrels... if you have a good barrel longer is better. The shortening for accuracy only works on some bad barrels.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
Not just bad barrels, but long and thin barrels. Same thing would apply to a thick long barrel but if its already rigid enough for high accuracy, you wont really notice any change shortening it.
@HitokiriRaiden
@HitokiriRaiden 8 ай бұрын
If you want a better adjustable tooless gasblock take a look at the riflespeed adjustable gas block. Iv got 3 on my rifles and they work awesome and easy to maintain and clean.
@narr0wm1nd49
@narr0wm1nd49 8 ай бұрын
Accuwedge is a couple of bucks takes about a second to install and is completely reversible should you get a different upper that doesn't need it. That said we often see set screws that push up on the rear takedown lug of the upper on high end lowers. So this is a common issue that has a few fixes.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
I tried the accuwedge first but it didnt completely eliminate the side to side movement. Shim now made it rock solid
@narr0wm1nd49
@narr0wm1nd49 8 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTactical yeah many upgraded AR lowers have a set screw with delrin tip that allows you to set push the set screw up against the rear take down lug, just like the accu wedge does. Since its a screw you can really get a tight fit between upper and lower. It would have been nice for the WWSD lowers but it would have required putting in a threaded insert into the lower which would have driven up cost.
@theayeguy5226
@theayeguy5226 8 ай бұрын
They already manufacture that handguard in the same length!!
@chrissinclair4442
@chrissinclair4442 8 ай бұрын
I got the FDE. I don't understand why they get any hate? I think adjustable gas block is a must, but alao remember the Bootleg BCG that is four position selectable with 2 unsuppressed and 2 suppressed settings.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
From what i gather they get hate because of Karl and some thing that he once said on the internet, the other apparent issue is that the KP-15 lowers might break under very low temperatures. For my use the rifle is great and winters in Slovenia aren't cold enough to make me worry
@storpheusmorpheus
@storpheusmorpheus 8 ай бұрын
You should consider looking at a Riflespeed gas block since they don't require any tools to adjust their settings.
@d0bbs
@d0bbs 8 ай бұрын
Watching that barrel get chopped felt like the dirtiest thing I’ve seen on KZbin and that’s saying something.
@xxxlonewolf49
@xxxlonewolf49 8 ай бұрын
Red neck eu edition?
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
yes!
@javasoldier5926
@javasoldier5926 8 ай бұрын
awesome gun!
@Allen338LM
@Allen338LM 8 ай бұрын
Ziga out here just gunna rizzem with the tisim
@brazzy1467
@brazzy1467 8 ай бұрын
To shim between my upper and lower receivers i use a bicycle inner tube. I cut to size i would need just for the front pivot pin and it works great. A RANGER showed me that trick when I was in Afghanistan.
@JoshJones-37334
@JoshJones-37334 8 ай бұрын
Were you a good cook?
@brazzy1467
@brazzy1467 8 ай бұрын
@@JoshJones-37334 no but your mom was.
@JoshJones-37334
@JoshJones-37334 8 ай бұрын
@@brazzy1467 she ate your parents?
@bishopm4401
@bishopm4401 8 ай бұрын
My PSA upper had the same wiggle and iverhassing issues. I’ve also had the idea of shortening the barrel for dwell time lol. Not to downplay these rifles too hard, sometimes things slip through the cracks
@fullmindstorm
@fullmindstorm 8 ай бұрын
Awesome mods
@crustyroach6921
@crustyroach6921 8 ай бұрын
Super TIGHT! nice job SDI😅
@EchoNineThree
@EchoNineThree 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the shout out!
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 7 ай бұрын
You bet!
@FoxfirePoet
@FoxfirePoet 8 ай бұрын
As a shorter guy I value this highly.
@uwesca6263
@uwesca6263 8 ай бұрын
Get the rifles or the lowers even shipped to the EU anymore? Brownells stopped importing them as far as i know and the existing stock is empty. I brought the last german lower according to the website.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
I heard the same, not sure what was behind it but it seems new WWSD rifles are not being sold anymore
@uwesca6263
@uwesca6263 8 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTactical inrange tv and with it KE-arms had an argument with brownells. And therefore work no longer together. And since it was the general distributer it will no longer get exported to the EU. The big question is if they found another importer.
@NicholasA231
@NicholasA231 8 ай бұрын
​@@uwesca6263Do you know the disagreement? I've been hearing they are aggressively reporting people buying lots of parts (which seems crazy, and I'd like some more info). They also, for sure - last I checked - won't ship pretty much anything to me in Washington due to their grossly overinterpreting our new unconstitutional laws. They (and many other "2A supporting" suppliers) are bending over backwards to help tyrants accomplish even more than they dared dream when they wrote what they know to begin with is illegitimate law. That is, I can buy upgrade parts from brick and mortar stores *in state* yet Brownells won't ship them to me.
@NicholasA231
@NicholasA231 8 ай бұрын
Do you know the nature of disagreement? Tried to ask before but YT apparently deleted my comment for - G rated - criticism of my government's laws and Brownells for going beyond the letter of the law to restrict my rights further.
@uwesca6263
@uwesca6263 8 ай бұрын
@@NicholasA231 karl the owner if inrange tv was (again) heavily attacked by an Brownells owned forum (AR-15 forum if i remember correct). Over multiple sides people attacked him for his support of the 2A for all (including PoC and lgbtq+) initiative and other things. Karl and later Russel (owner of KE-arms) defended themself in a heated argument. And where banned by the forum admins. They then went to brownells and asked if this is how they treat their business partners so brownells terminated their business relationship and sold their KE-arms stock cheaply with a code "triggered". This is as far as i know.
@DNice337
@DNice337 8 ай бұрын
The ATF is dying inside because you’re not in America
@jmullner76
@jmullner76 8 ай бұрын
They so want to shoot his dog.
@titanscerw
@titanscerw 8 ай бұрын
Need right now.
@interpl6089
@interpl6089 8 ай бұрын
Didn't Ian do a video on this recently? (Ian's Customs series).
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
That's where i got the inspiration... but his rifle is lame 😆
@interpl6089
@interpl6089 8 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTactical well so is yours
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
@@interpl6089 that's where you're wrong kiddo
@interpl6089
@interpl6089 8 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTactical It looks fine to mine "fudd" brain...
@Auloss
@Auloss 8 ай бұрын
imagine being able to do all this to your rifle and still not say out loud that you are the "land of the freedom"
@Parcolai
@Parcolai 8 ай бұрын
5:35 Deflection of the barrel at the end is less with a shorter barrel with the same bending stiffness as a longer barrel? Would this apply the same when comparing a heavier barrel and that same barrel chopped down then?
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
The idea is that a long thin barrel bends and vibrates more so when you shorten it you actually increase stiffness. If you have a long but heavy barrel that is already quite stiff, cutting it would still increase the stiffness but the effect on target would probably not be noticeable. Also cutting the barrel too short can cause it's own problems regarding the velocity and ability to stabilize the bullet
@beezowdoo-doozopittybop-bo9127
@beezowdoo-doozopittybop-bo9127 8 ай бұрын
I’m also going commando today.
@JoshJones-37334
@JoshJones-37334 8 ай бұрын
So is your mom. Chapped
@TheOz91
@TheOz91 8 ай бұрын
Russell Phagan of KE Arms would be curious about how it structurally holds up with the plastic being chopped off. The whole reason, according to Phagan, that they went with a carbine length buffer is to make sure there is enough material behind the buffer tube. Shortening this way might be fine in terms of using the gun but it might just make it a tiny bit more fragile though that would be it.
@sluttybutt
@sluttybutt 8 ай бұрын
On the KE site it states they won't provide support for stock chops but he also endorses and supports the E93 chopped version from what I have seen. There may be a professional partnership and mutual understanding there between he and Joe wrt the allowable amount of material to be removed.
@Bobamawesome
@Bobamawesome 8 ай бұрын
Oh don't you worry. I am sure Russell is going to be commenting on this video.
@NicholasA231
@NicholasA231 8 ай бұрын
He already did. Says there's one section of reinforcement left, and that you can't go any shorter.
@armorers_wrench
@armorers_wrench 8 ай бұрын
Why'd you use a hacksaw on the barrel? I assume you still cut your threads on a lathe and if so you could've just used a parting tool and ended up with a finer crown and less burrs. I'm guessing the hacksaw on the barrel was just for the video? If you used a die to cut the threads by hand there is a rather large chance of the threads not being concentric to the bore and either way those threads looked quite clean and that leads me to believe they were cut with a lathe.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
Did you skip part of the video where i explain all of this?
@armorers_wrench
@armorers_wrench 8 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTactical I never heard any explanation of how you cut the threads. So I guess I must've?
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
@@armorers_wrench oh shit, my bad, wrong video 😅 We have another one coming up that's all about cutting the barrel
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
I sent the barrel to a gunsmith to properly cut the barrel, make a crown and threads
@armorers_wrench
@armorers_wrench 8 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTactical Lmao dude its all good, when you replied I was thinking to myself "This dude must have another video or he edited that part out and forgot". I saw the threads had a thread relief cut so I knew a lathe was employed. I'm a machinist myself so I get kinda autistic about that kinda thing lol.
@brandonryder3632
@brandonryder3632 8 ай бұрын
Did you thread the barrel with a hacksaw as well😅
@stug77
@stug77 8 ай бұрын
Ok super good opportunity to talk about suppressors. What is the advantage of a 12ish inch 556 rifle with a can vs a 16 inch rifle? (assuming everything else the same) I presume you almost never shoot it without the can because you'd need to change the gas setting and it would be crazy loud. Since there isn't subsonic 555, the two are the same length, there's no flash on the 16" barrel with the right flash hider, and the 12" suppressed definitely isn't hearing safe, what's the benefit being suppressed?
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
Haven't shot it a lot but even without the suppressor it's fine, as long as it has a good flashhider on. The suppressor in the video is a conventional one and it combined with overgassed WWSD it creates a lot of blowback gasses. So if i want to shoot it comfortably i have to dial the gas down quite substantially. So now im looking into getting a small flow through can that will hopefully work on the same gas setting as unsupressed. The advantages of a 12"rifle with a suppressor vs a 16" rifle with a suppressor are that it's shorter, lighter and more maneuverable. Downside is reduced velocity because of a shorter barrel. .223 can't be made hearing safe because the supersonic crack will always be too loud. Making it subsonic would be impossible to make it cycle and reduce the energy of the bullet to .22lr We use suppressors because they reduce the sound signature and muzzle blast - it makes it more pleasant to shoot and there is no need to have doubled up hearing protection when shooting indoors
@stug77
@stug77 8 ай бұрын
​@@PolenarTacticalThat was the crux of it, does the can make it nicer to shoot (at least indoors) than the extra barrel length. From what you've said I think the answer is yes.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
@@stug77 oh yes, absolutely Suppressors make it much nicer to shoot if the rifle isn't too overgassed
@Whiro
@Whiro 7 ай бұрын
Was this the Faxon barrel or the Ballistic Advantage? And yeah. the epoxy used for those endcaps were no joke. I'm not surprised if you had difficulty in removing it! :D
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 7 ай бұрын
I always thought it was Faxon but SinistralRifleman corrected me that it's probably Ballistic Advantage Either way it was severely overgassed. I suspect the gas hole on the barrel was made to be used with an adjustable gas block from the start
@Whiro
@Whiro 7 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTactical that would make sense, depending on when and where you got it from. Latter production and Euro Brownell's, iirc, shifted to BA, and were much improved, and had less felt recoil than even the Faxon barrels, hence the surprise at your comment regarding felt recoil. Given just how light they are to begin with, I can imagine you're still probably getting a bit of gas with it, honestly. Great job on the DIY E93 chop, btw.
@skeletonwguitar4383
@skeletonwguitar4383 8 ай бұрын
Cant wait for Ian to roast this too
@poncoolride
@poncoolride 7 ай бұрын
I like that alot. Good job.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 7 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it
@ianray8823
@ianray8823 7 ай бұрын
Hes a heckin gunsmiff boiii
@MOCKACHINO
@MOCKACHINO 8 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't modify it into an AK
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
that sounds like an interesting project...
@MOCKACHINO
@MOCKACHINO 8 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTactical only if you let me edit it
@narutobroken
@narutobroken 8 ай бұрын
Dude needs an electric powersaw with all that cutting 😂
@luisetb
@luisetb 8 ай бұрын
Wait I know he changed the gas block to an adjustable one. But shortening the barrel would make the over gas problem worse? Am I wrong?
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
The barrel has a gas hole drilled into it at the position where the gas block sits. This hole was waaay too big on the european WWSD which meant it was sending a lot of high pressure gas back through the gas tube. If you shorten the barrel you shorten the length of barrel that the bullet travels after it passes the gas hole - and the hot gasses are only creating pressure in the gas system until the bullet leaves the barrel, then they are wented out of the muzzle. This time of bullet going pass the gas hole and still traveling in the barrel is called "dwell time". If you shorten the barrel, you reduce dwell time which reduces the time gasses are pushing through the system. So shortening the barrel will reduce gas
@BradFletcher-di7nw
@BradFletcher-di7nw 8 ай бұрын
Guy looks like Ukraine's president lol
@makam2089
@makam2089 8 ай бұрын
Commando! Commando!
@scottlehman9738
@scottlehman9738 8 ай бұрын
Very nice.
@ryanniksch4174
@ryanniksch4174 7 ай бұрын
the freedoms people have outside of the USA are just awesome!!!!! law makers in the USA watch way too many movies.
@charliehotelromeo284
@charliehotelromeo284 8 ай бұрын
WHERE IS CARRY HANDLE OPTIC MOUNT????
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
Carry handle is too heavy to be a dedicated mount for this rifle 😅
@charliehotelromeo284
@charliehotelromeo284 8 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTactical why are there no polymer handles 🤔
@NinJam87
@NinJam87 8 ай бұрын
Ziga gets to flex and show what the US could be like without the ATF
@sccpresident
@sccpresident 8 ай бұрын
Can you do a: Cold weather torture test with this lower.??? Worried cold temperatures will make it brittle
@StPaul76
@StPaul76 8 ай бұрын
You've lost a lot of weight Ziga.. Are you planning to run some recon against Jari this year..? ;)
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
No, please god no
@Vin_San
@Vin_San 8 ай бұрын
At first when I clicked I was going to write/joke "you have too many money to spend!" BUT(T) : Really interesting and sound clearly worth Especially here in Europe where we don't have the 16" rule : this is still a B Class weapon, so, no legal issues, and 'muricans can do the paperwork for that.
@joesephkingston1621
@joesephkingston1621 8 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the “entry” stocks of yesteryear.
@frankbutta9344
@frankbutta9344 8 ай бұрын
Nice!
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@daemonescarnifex
@daemonescarnifex 7 ай бұрын
I like it, and have thought about doing it. However, I despise the grip angle.
@Vin_San
@Vin_San 8 ай бұрын
Hey, 1 question : I've seen some US videos with guys in "cold states", making heavy duty training with it, they had crackles on multiples KP-15/WWSD => you had no issue with that? (you or the gunsmith you mention for the butt-cut) No issue with that in Slovenian winter or for Finnish Brutality?
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
No issues for slovenian winter and i havent brought this rifle to Finland yet. There were a couple of comments mentioning this about the KP-15 lower so i guess that could be a potential issue
@Vin_San
@Vin_San 8 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTactical thaaaaaanks
@Eljanes123
@Eljanes123 8 ай бұрын
Wilcox boss optic would suit it better!
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
WTF I had to google it and the thing seems amazing. How's that nobody is talking about it? It seems like a true next gen optic aiming device
@Eljanes123
@Eljanes123 8 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTacticalits expensive and usually not sold to civilians (atleast previously, its over 7 years old i think). A lot of cool guys have used it over the seas, and some “surplus” ones are sold on facebook market place if you are looking for one.
@NicholasA231
@NicholasA231 8 ай бұрын
What did you do with the handguard mounting that you mention. It's one of the points on my WWSD builds that I'm not completely happy with. Haven't had a problem yet, but just seems like it could be stronger, and I kind of doubt it'd hold a reasonable zero, which limits the roles for those guns.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
Mine had too long screws that attached the carbon fibre sleeve to the aluminum block and they would interfere in properly centering and tightening of the handguard. But no matter what you will do, this handguard will not hold zero - the mounting system was not made for that
@NicholasA231
@NicholasA231 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! I thought maybe you'd come up some magic, but yeah, there are always tradeoffs. Sadly I'll have to keep tweaking several more rifles to have ones perfect for every situation. Shorter + can looks like a pretty compelling solution for this platform when using a pencil barrel and this type of handguard mounting. My wife's build is *just* under 5lb with the 16" integrated slim comp, but I bet she'd get better trained faster without the blast from that thing.
@kasperjam
@kasperjam 8 ай бұрын
Is that Breek warhammer charging handle I see? If so how has it been holding up. Because I bought one but haven’t been able to put it through its paces until I complete my build.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
No problems yet at around 2k rounds. But i doubt it would stand up well to rough handling as it seems very thin and a bit fragile
@kasperjam
@kasperjam 8 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTactical Thank you very much for the reply. I’ll try to keep that tidbit of information stored away. Great video as always!
@arha-z1v
@arha-z1v 8 ай бұрын
Did shortening the barrel affect bullet stabilization?
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
no
@bangbang44500
@bangbang44500 8 ай бұрын
What are you tryna say? Hack saw not good enough for you?
@Omnis2
@Omnis2 8 ай бұрын
So did you turn the new crown of the barrel or just leave it all hacked off? 😂
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 8 ай бұрын
We made a full video about that, coming soon. Afterwards i sent the barrel to a gunsmith to make a proper crown and threads on a lathe
@exsanguinenation
@exsanguinenation 4 ай бұрын
What were the handguard lock-up modifications you mentioned making?
@jamesbromstead4949
@jamesbromstead4949 8 ай бұрын
Ziag... does Manca know you've gone Commando?
@Exod365
@Exod365 6 ай бұрын
Does lowers they look so weird. Might be a good rifle
@EddieRiggsBF3
@EddieRiggsBF3 8 ай бұрын
Commando? So melee range is increased?
@TMFShooting
@TMFShooting 8 ай бұрын
Nice '' Great Video 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
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