High End Executive Sit Stand Desk (round 2, FIGHT)

[@rullerr]

please don't do lock in to a specific mount. There are way too many reasons someone may want a different mount. I have a large monitor that only one monitor arm (as of a year ago) supports and they developed a heavy hinge for that specific montior footprint. lock in to your model of monitor arm is going to kill this desk for a lot of WFH people

[@ninjasownpirates]

I agree. I have two 32" monitors and even the mount they have (which is one of the best rated) struggles with the size and weight of the. I'd design a nice riser for a monitor or two as an add-on and then make the desk itself compatible with either clamping and maybe bolt through monitor mounts.

[@NoNameNinjaa]

As a triple monitor monster I ask this aswell. Also I'm a big dude I like storage I want to make sure the arm rests on my chair aren't butting up against the drawer

[@GoodJobCasey]

I think 2hat is more important is a little gap for the monitor mounts that are clamp on the back so the desk can still sit against the wall. Or deep enough for a deep desk pad and a monitor stand that has deep feet.

[@crimsonacid]

Hello, fellow Samsung G9 user :P 100% agreed. I have to use this arm, and im honestly a fan of it. If I can't use any arm I have I can't consider purchasing this desk.

[@crimsonacid]

@@GoodJobCasey I'd be onboard for this, but the problem is many arm bases have differing depths as well as positioning requirements. You'd almost have to cut a groove along the entire back edge.

[@HyrulianKale]

A minor problem I would have with the bevel, and I could see others having it as well, would be mic arm c-clamps on the side of desks or other things that clamp on without much depth.

[@wildgophers91]

exactly this. I've got a completely square top and it fits whatever bullshit I wanna clamp to it beautifully. I've only ever had problems with bevels.

[@ninjasownpirates]

I agree. As much as bevels are pretty and arguably more comfortable, they are nightmare with anything that clamps to the edge. When I was shopping for my current desk, having a square edge was an absolute requirement and disqualified a lot of otherwise nice desks.

[@DefinitelyNWYT]

I find myself agreeing. Once you can adjust the height you're able to get that pressure off the cubital tunnel. The bevel becomes mainly aesthetic for me.

[@BritishTeaLover]

Bevels on the front would work pretty well, most things are clamped to the sides/back afterall, rather than the front

[@BadFiend]

That sounds like an issue with your c-clamp. Why would you want a worse looking desk instead of just getting a better clamp?

[@dexdres5419]

Yeah I'm with Doug on building for a mount that will be outdated is a negative.

[@RoseKindred]

Yea, I can see their suppliers stop producing the stands, and finding like dimensions can be hard. Don't want to potentially bottleneck a design.

[@pillarsofadventure]

You still need a rear overhang for people to mount their choice of monitor arm on the back of the desk. Its pain in the ass enough without having to go underneath the desk into some hidden compartment just to tighten a bolt.

[@etherdark]

Having a magnetic rail on the side for all the table accessories that are currently offered, cup holder, charging pad etc.., would also be great. Kind of in the vein of Doug's drawer acessories, but using what youve already got. A penicil cup would be useful

[@janhachmann9753]

Honestly. Just no. Two different departments.

[@TRIGGEREDHarambe]

Yeah, I think they mentioned adding the rails on in the first revision process, but I didn't see any on this round. Maybe if they found a design for some drawers that clicked into the magnetic rails, would be nice. Then you could customize your desk while still being able to use the other line of products.

[@jonahw6516]

Yeah I would love to have a cup holder, pencil holder, and a charger on my desk

[@lokithecat7225]

@@jonahw6516 Why can't you put your Cup, a Pencil (Box of pencils) or a Charger ON the Desk? Needing to use accessories for that is about as confusing as a Drawer that has an extender so you can put a Laptop on it... Just put the Laptop (or other things) on the Desk.

[@d_dave7200]

@@lokithecat7225 Because then you have more top desk real estate for other things. Desks can easily get super full once you start adding pencil holders, cups etc. The more options for clearing the area the better.

[@RestartVandelay]

I am curious if the edge bevel of the desktop will prevent microphone boom arm clamps from attaching to the desk. Some boom arms (like the Rode PSA1+) allow for drilled through desk mounts but I would hate to add it to a beautiful desk if the included cable-management hole isn't the correct size. I don't think a magnetic attachment insert would work too well for vibration sensitive mics so compatibility with standard edge c-clamps would be great (for me).

[@prebeles]

Give Bennet a raise, he is doing his own work and Jason's too!

[@d_dave7200]

As a person who's on the fence about backing this: Please retain the magnetic rail for MGT accessories. That really could be the difference between me buying this and skipping it completely. Other thoughts: 1. Lots of cool accessory options, especially if magnetic, would make it super attractive to me. 2. Make sure there's a way to attach clamps, such as for microphone stands etc. 3. A shelf that goes at the back of the surface, but which *itself* has a magnetic rail so I can have my accessories floating over the back of the desk would be amazing. 4. Would love it if I could add a diagonal writing/writing surface to my desk as a magnetic/removable accessory. Almost like a diagonal player desk. Could look cool with a contrasting wood to the main desk.

[@Viruzzz]

My thought is the exact opposite, if it has an accessory rail it completely devalues the desk for me because the tabletop effective thickness becomes like 3-4 times as thick and i have nothing I would ever use it for. I have never once thought "Hey, I need a cup holder" when sitting at a desk like this, it's just going to be in the way

[@d_dave7200]

@@Viruzzz Right now I have three active cups on my desk, so yeah, cupholders would be really handy. My desk is constantly full of stuff. Compatibility with MGT is one of their unique potential selling points, and fits well with their target market. I somehow think they'll lose more money by not having rails. Ideally these rails wouldn't be at the actual seating position, making the thickness less at that point.

[@markushenry8206]

Love the RnD videos. For Jason’s muscle quandary - he pointed to a couple of the flexors or the hand. The muscle he pointed to when discussing the groove on the table was probably the palmar flexor. (m. flexor palmaris longus)

[@Korulag76]

I'm definitely more interested in the MGT variant of the sit/stand desk. But what I really want is an L-shaped desk. With my company having provided gear, I've got 2 distinct PC setups for both work and personal use so L-shaped would be ideal.

[@dack981]

I agree. I also have two setups, a work setup and a gaming setup. Right now it's two separate desks (well a desk and a folding table), I would love to merge that into one high quality corner setup.

[@connornance3073]

Corner sit-stand desks would probably drive the price point way up, so while I’d like one, I understand why it wouldn’t be good to have one for this first launch.

[@barmixmaster]

Yes! As a work from home person the L shaped sit/stand would be ideal. Business on one side, play on the other.

[@FrozenThai]

I have dropped using corner desks myself, but I wonder if they would consider an addon. One extra matching leg and table piece that can be joined.

[@ford9501]

I'm on the don't lock in a monitor arm train. I use a cross-bar dual monitor mount on a gas spring, and spent a while finding the one I love. Just allow for a standard c-clamp style mount and pass-though mount as you have it. That would allow flexibility for those who want to bring their own, but still allow you to design around your preferred mount.

[@crimsonacid]

Looking great! Massively agree with other commentors and not locking us into a specific monitor arm. Really like the idea of modularity in drawers and other accessories. One idea I could see would be some sort of cable grommet that stretches the length of the desk, perhaps just large enough for plugs to get past (eg. 2-3")? Between that and insetting the underside cable storage you'll maximize the overall compatibility. Definitely make the bevel, leg covers, etc. customizable/addons. I still would love to see inset Qi wireless charging and underside tower mounting!

[@ardysudarso]

Hurts being an Australian customer. This Modular desk (which I think is the way to go) would probably set me back 3-4 x the table price in shipping costs.

[@RoseKindred]

Besides the actual shipping costs, why is it so expensive to buy in Australia? I mean, are there higher import taxes that are added on after a sale?

[@RoseKindred]

@@SomeKiwi Interesting. I just find it weird it would cost so much. I guess the population density does play a large part. I thought it might be due to customs tax because I've noticed when I order stuff across the world many packages are marked lower than I paid. Like a band's CD and shirt they listed the values at half and modeling tools from a company in Spain was a 3rd.

[@ardysudarso]

@@RoseKindred - @FearlessHornet is spot on. That said... We also need to factor conversion rates as the US dollar is stronger than AUD/NZD

[@mishkarae]

You know, I was just wondering what shipping might be ^^; Looks like I'm not the only one crying on the inside for Australian shipping...

[@lunadoll5204]

I’m a fan of modular, but I also want a corner desk design. Maybe make it modular into a Full L shape … or hey as long as we’re dreaming, the full 360 desk

[@JTallTHEtime]

Swivel drawer... Either dual swivel opening to side or front (pivot point in the front corner), OR open out (pivot on side further back than corner). Pivot out could leave more leg room (if rounded back drawers), but dual pivot seems more versatile.

[@the13th]

Loving the designs, the wood wrap of the legs an an amazing touch but the modularity of the other is a clear winner

[@joranandringa8642]

i would suggest keeping the back of the desk pretty thin(like max 5cm) and no bevel so when someone already has a monitor stand or wants a different one, they can use the c clamp tu attach it to the back.

[@BritishTeaLover]

With the back of the desk, don't forget to leave a bit of room for clamp style mounts which need space at the back. If you've got the drawer going all the way to the back, there's no way to clamp anything around the back, which is a major issue for a lot of monitor/microphone mounts.

[@jameswest6232]

First, please don't pigeon hole the design around a given mount (really loved the idea from last time about a Wyrmwood monitor shelf) Second, modularity is cool, but I don't want a desk where the stinkin' _drawer_ are extra Third, it might be worth offering both desks (a modular desk with a more affordable base price and an executive desk with a tighter, unified design)

[@solonys9775]

"Second, modularity is cool, but I don't want a desk where the stinkin' drawer are extra" I agree here, but for a different reason; drawers get /heavy/. Further, most people are not going to come back for more desk parts later once they order the desk unlike additional rail accessories, so I don't see how the modularity helps, and instead it creates additional design constraints to make a modular mount that can take 30lbs of weight without failing. Jason's desk is a superior design; I don't know how many people will pay (frankly, way more) for a Wyrmwood desk if the base doesn't look any different from a basic sit/stand from Office Depot.

[@jonevansauthor]

Right but some people don't want a desk with drawers full stop. Modularity serves both customers and you can upgrade at any point. Some people would prefer a pedestal under the desk for max storage.

[@jonevansauthor]

@@solonys9775 personally I don't care about the legs, although the look pretty. I would absolutely upgrade my desk all the time. I have with my existing one. I'm confident they won't have the 30lb problem you're worried about either.

[@aarondyck6521]

The editing on this video is DOPE! I loved the baby sounds from bennett and the nerd clip of johnny.

[@TheT8or]

Modular all the way. I use a massive 32lb monitor that is curved, so it puts tons of strain on 99% of monitor arms. I ended up going with an ergotron with a heavy mount adapter. I believe it only had a rear mount clamp option. as well as mic arm clamps, elgato light clamps etc. I need my clamps clamping.

[@havs]

You're crazy to not add the magnetic rail system to the desk. Its so on brand and the accessories would be AMAZE. I would have a headphones holder, washable snack holders, drink holder, pen holders ... so many options. Desks are covered in junk because there is no better place to put the stuff.

[@cajsim18]

Imagine if your cable management area could pop upwards for easily adding new things and then push back down and latch into place. As an IT guy that hates having to crawl under terrible sit stand desks at work that would be amazing

[@jonevansauthor]

That would be amazing.

[@Xenious]

Don't forget about heat in the under desk cord management area from transformers.

[@alwaysplaythegame]

1) The desks need integrated drawers. That's an expectation on any high-end desk in my opinion and the side drawers are also a great design. Don't squander it in the name of modularity when everyone would 'want' the drawers. 2) I personally would be fine with exposed-metal legs, but I think the sleeves are what sets the wyrmwood desk apart from anything else in the market. If only the top is slightly unique, I wouldn't expect to draw in nearly as many customers. Probably worth it to up the price for the 'wooden' legs.

[@ChaplainAppollus]

I wouldn’t want drawers

[@sovietmoose5624]

I value leg room far more than drawers.

[@alwaysplaythegame]

To each their own, but if you want a sit stand desk without drawers and the standard metal base - there are plenty of options that will be cheaper and will ship tomorrow.

[@braytac]

Wasn't there a guy they talked to not so long ago in a wyrmlife that integrated screens with furniture? seems like a good fit to work with for these desks

[@oriondourden]

definitely something that would fit well with the Prophecy version

[@Frankenstein786]

Would be sick!

[@RoseKindred]

I love the modular desk. More appeal to a broader range of buyers. I hate drawers on my desks, especially pullout/swingout style because the metal usually fails easily. I just hope you talk about the min/max height. "Wheelchair" height desks are harder to find, especially ones that can be mechanically raised. I know wheelchair height sounds counterintuitive for a sit/stand desk, but I am thinking about multiple users in the household as well as being able to accommodate a wheelchair or mobile limited people.

[@sam2045]

The cable management of Jason’s table was definitely better. However from what I could tell my monitor mount wouldn’t fit on either of them, and I definitely couldn’t secure it either. Cuz the screw for it is on the bottom of it so there would be no way for me to access it. So I would have to cut a hole in either one’s cable management box

[@ENaielo]

I actually dislike Jasons cable management system, I would also be concerned on the total weight the mount can support. his desk looks really heavy start putting computer hardware ontop and you may end up with the legs failing.

[@lokithecat7225]

@@ENaielo The Motor will Fail before the legs do.

[@sam2045]

​@@ENaielo Idk about u but i have a multi socket thingy glued to the underside of my desk to hide more cables and have less running to my desk. So to me it just feels simpler to access that socket if i can fold it down rather than having to crank it in there through a fairly small entry. Regarding the mount idk I have a two monitor mount, but i do think that that would hold. As to the weight of Jason's yeah idk. Hope/think that at that point (of selling it) they will have put enough thought into it that that wont happen

[@BritishTeaLover]

The problem with Jasons design was that it lacks the ledge behind the trapdoor that Bennets had. You can balance your extension bar and things on there whilst you work on something else. With Jason's design everything will just drop out, putting stress on plugs/cables, and you'll have to half-hold everything in place whilst trying to work on a different area. Jason's design w/ the door only being the front half of where he had it now would be a lot better.

[@sam2045]

@@BritishTeaLover yeah having the door half way does sound like a good mix between accessibility and not having everything fall out when opening it

[@Wally2011]

Modular sit stand desk all day. Add on some of your magnetic cup holders and/or a magnetic headphone holder, etc. etc. I’ve been waiting for this product to become a reality ever since I first heard of it on here a year or so ago. Love the progress so far. Keep up the good work guys!!

[@AK4TF]

modular drawers for the table, computer tower shelf, set of shelves, monitor riser instead of arms, built in wireless phone charger. Doug was on to something with the writing surface, could offer plain surface, a fold out tablet stand, one that acts as a cupholder/snack tray, etc. Awesome idea. Now if you can make it hold a few hundred pounds in amateur radio equipment, I'm sold.

[@NemTES]

Something to make sure you test for is that the motors on sit-stand desks can get out of sync and one side can end up slightly higher than the other. This is pretty easy to fix by sending the desk to the lowest height it can go, but I could imagine it possibly causing warping or maybe even burst a joint on the leg sleeves.

[@13thSkull]

You know, those pieces of wood seem very trust worthy and dont feel like they will bite my hand at all lol

[@KyleCorbeau]

For the desktop plugs, I think they make push release latches (the same you would use for a push to open drawer) that would serve this purpose well. That way you have the nice flat surface and when you want to take the plug off you aren't looking for an extra thing to get it out; you just push down on it and remove the plug. And since it's at the back the chances of it getting activated accidentally are low (unless the desk it in the middle of the room, then it's low-ish).

[@jonevansauthor]

Yeah they use them in kitchens for electric sockets. That could be an interesting way to do cable management.

[@DrKahnihoochima]

The 'Prophecy' desk should have the same radius curve as the actual Prophecy across the entire front.

[@jonevansauthor]

I mean, at prophecy price I'd really want to have whatever top I want. The bevel doesn't appeal to me, nor do cutouts of any kind. I'm straight edge when it comes to desks. But I wouldn't object to paying for a niche SKU of I were at the Prophecy end.

[@savinascheil6662]

LOVE Jason's cable management "box"

[@DeanJayJackmanJr]

I love watching these discussions. The evolution and progressions are very satisfying. Doug, Jason and crew are interesting folks.

[@Rosiepedia]

You guys have talked about wood warping a lot on other products, is that a risk with the telescopic legs? Especially if there’s a cable through there too?

[@peoplecallmepeechez]

I would think they would build the telescopic legs out of plywood and then veneer them. Plywood atleast in my experience is less susceptible to warping. But they also make heirloom furniture so idk if plywood is really acceptable to them.

[@Viruzzz]

Shouldn't be any cables in the legs, the motors for these are up near the desk, and you'll be running other cables to power whatever you have on it, so it hardly makes sense to hide the 1 motor cable in the legs when all the rest aren't hidden. As for wood warping i would assume the fact that all the grain goes in the same direction means it's not a big concern unlike when you have a solid wood bottom and solid wood sides on a box and the wood in the bottom had grain direction perpendicular to the sides

[@pabloferrer5798]

@@peoplecallmepeechezProphecy toppers are veneer. So could work just fine.

[@VagabondTE]

I don't think wood warping is a problem when you build a box like that. Because it's glued and nailed in a few directions. That's a bigger problem with a single flat piece of wood that needs to say in perfect alignment.

[@evansgoff476]

If the drawer clicks on, it’d be dope to have the mechanism strong enough to stack 2-4 drawers. I utilize drawers and that’s be a real win for me. Love the direction.

[@evinfuilt]

Still needs the magnetic rail, after seeing Jason’s mock-up I’m ready to get rid of my L-shaped sit/stand desk for a dual monitor stand setup. Don’t forget an option to hang a tower computer below one side.

[@DarthPoyner]

Those are rough as they are normally based on a case standard and the more popular brands have very different sizes. Plus it would need to be more of a hook arm than box as you don't want to worry about getting a small box heated up and blocking air flow.

[@evinfuilt]

@@DarthPoyner I use an adjustable hook arm for my current one.

[@Tim753100]

“We have a top and we have a bottom.” - Doug

[@myopic_cyclops]

I didn't see a magnetic rail on these desks, which is the crux of all your table's modularity: headphone mounts, writing surfaces, cubbies, cupholders, controller docks, raised speaker stands, hobby racks/shelves etc. Put the rails on both sides of the cutout and along the sides of the desk, maybe at the back too. If y'all really wanted to jump-start your weed products, you could make accessories to prepare your weed, like trays that hold bowl pieces. And Doug's not wrong that drawer modularity is an underdeveloped space. That's almost the most exciting prospect you've talked about, at least potentially. I'd love to see what you could develop given your exposure to your audience's lifestyle/needs. One thing though is that real estate is more selectively important than generally. If you made an 8" platform I could store my desklamp on I'd be so down for that. Also, it'd be cool if the accessories you buy for this desk can be stored in or with the desk when not in use. It'd be a pain having to store things separately. Good job!

[@ronjahn2579]

Love seeing Jason having some fun. He's been on the grind for a few years and its good to see him enjoying letting the creative juices flow.

[@Mauricio_Castaño]

Looks good, the desks are growing on me, very nice. This season is very nice, to see the process of so many products, the chairs, the dice towers, the deck box, ufff, so many stuff, love it.

[@samw5924]

To second what I've seen others say please don't lock us in to specific mounts that is 100% a deal breaker for me. On that note, please test various types of clamp-on accessories to make sure they work with whatever bevel you want (or remove the bevel at the back/sides) so we can clamp our own monitor stands, mic booms, and other desk accessories.

[@DragoSolaris1]

Why are your plugs not hex tile compatible?

[@DanDanChair3427]

I've been really enjoying seeing Jason working on stuff.

[@EvanJamesIV]

I’m all for the top bevel, for both comfort and the aesthetic of looking more expensive per Doug’s reasoning in part one. I think modular is the way to go as well and not lock into a specific mount.

[@matt-lang]

Yep, modular rail + top bevel is the best combination from what I’ve seen. And keep the center area of the desk clear of rails/drawers.

[@JWBlunden]

I absolutely love the legs Jason made on his desk. That really, really gave the desk an amazing look.

[@railerswim]

Yeah but think when the legs get out of sync with each other. You'll have to take the sleeves off to reset the legs.

[@Boodoosh69]

Not in the sit stand desk market, but modular is the way to go to start - gives a quality affordable desk right off the bat, which then can be pimped to within an inch of its life. Then once the market has been revealed a Prophecy version can be researched. Great video had laughing heartily :D

[@2poor2bEccentric]

Can we get an L-shape desk as part of the modular offering?

[@2poor2bEccentric]

Or perhaps plan for a future 'L shape module'?

[@matt-lang]

Top bevel >>> bottom bevel!! I highly recommend using top bevels for both versions. Not only are they more comfortable to use for long periods of time, but they’ll give you more flexibility/space for the accessories/rails on the bottom.

[@connornance3073]

Modularity: YES. Kind of. I think the drawers should come stock, and what you put in/on/around those drawers is where the modularity opens up. I really can’t dream up anything else that would go in that real estate, but maybe I’m wrong there.

[@SkarBringer]

I’m in camp Offer Both. My issue is I would rather have the look of the Executive style, but wouldn’t want to pass on the Modular one if the Executive doesn’t happen. How likely are you to offer info on the Executive as it is here when the Modular goes live? Also: I’d prefer the monitor shelves over pigeon holing us into one type/style/size of mount.

[@SkarBringer]

If you don’t KS both, even launching one on KS and one for preorder on your site simultaneously would be better than only offering Modular in my opinion. Maybe it’s just me, but I’m far more likely to splurge on the nicer looking desk.

[@voltair42]

The telescoping leg should have the larger sleeve on the bottom. Would visually allow for more angles and decorative legs.

[@niklasbengtsson7756]

I’d look into the possibilty to have the outer sleeve on the feet part and the inner sleeve on the top. It looks weird when it extends and becomes thinner.

[@jonevansauthor]

Fair point and it's also lifting more weight.

[@jordanloeffler298]

I mean, for price point alone, I'm more inclined to back the modular one. I can't afford no prophecy pricing. I work to make money and don't need that river to flow in reverse.

[@Kate-qw9wn]

I don't want to lose desk space to a cutout. I love the beveled edges, but axe the cutout

[@thegiantpolarbear9436]

A Top Bevel is hazard for anyone putting stuff on the edge of the desk, look I put a cup coffee on the partial bevel next thing I know, my coffee is on the floor with my shattered mug. Also you have a metal rail accessories for the tables. Why not add it to the table and make a few more for it? AKA Headset mount and stuff like that. really try to find the niche for desk accessories. Good Luck

[@Brenilla]

“The tibia and the fibula” are in your leg.XD It’s the radius and the ulna are what’s in your arm. (Radius is on your thumb side of wrist, I always remember because when you do a thumbs up it’s “Rad”)

[@TheOrezbus]

I am liking what I see so far. I would like to see on the modular table the same leg box wraps Jason designed. I don’t like the “college” feel of the current sit/stand desks. I want it to feel well design even for modular style. I see a ton of accessories being designed for the modular desk. If Wyrmwood could integrate a wireless charging into the top part it would be amazing. I’ve seen desk that has a area where the wireless charger is but you don’t know it is there. So it is a solid top but an area of it is thinner to allow the charger to work with a phone or charging ear buds. Just a thought. Keep up the good work, I’m holding off buying a new desk cause would really like to get one from Wyrmwood.

[@TRIGGEREDHarambe]

I liked Bennets cable management more. I think having it open from the front is a smart idea. I don't like the compartment opening from the bottom, because all the cables would just fall out on the ground if I don't have them taped inside the compartment. For the drawers, I liked the modularity of the drawers of bennet's but the style of Jason's drawers. Great work, I like to see more of this!

[@Sewducky]

Lots of good ideas. Like Bennet's cable management best, it's cramped but I had a *moment* when Jason showed his trap door as doable for cable management. I like the modularity it'd be great to build on to develop lessoned learned for a more refined prophecy version later. For drawers pick a standard width for the side drawers you can get trays that slide on top. My WFH hack is put a cutting board over my open drawer to use it as an extra surface, tip- rounded corners slightly wider than the drawer opening help it stay the board stay centered over the drawer. It's great when you got a mouse grabbing toddler. I stored a wireless mouse in the drawer, out of sight when not in use. Make the management hole biggish in the center. You can get conference table connection plugs. The size of those are larger to accommodate more mounts. So you can drop a connection insert or monitor stand in to fill the hole.

[@Sewducky]

There are mounts that are drill thru maybe make a replaceable management cover that can lock to the desk surface so you can install drill thru mounts thru a cover that is secured vs the desktop... Also I like the wood slides on the base. Just look into the company making the guts to harden so there's less redesign. I'd draw a picture of my cable management cover design to share but it's late.

[@inclementhydra]

If the bevel is added I won't be able to use part of my equipment (ie my microphone XLR setup) because I have fears it would be too heavy for a beveled edge. This being an issue keeps me from investing until proven otherwise.

[@DarthPoyner]

Depends on if they bevel all around or just in the front where the user sits. The top bevel will help with arm pain, but having it all around causes the issue you are talking about.

[@inclementhydra]

@@DarthPoyner agreed

[@BenRangel]

Doug is insane to demand ipad holders and writing space for a drawer. Desk is big enough as it is. Nothing wrong with a drawer.

[@jonevansauthor]

Most office drawers have a slide out tray for holding stationery. It's completely doable.

[@trevordupp8734]

Please don't lock me into monitor arm options, positions etc. I'd love to see a desk with 4 legs instead of the trestle - it would eliminate wobble that happens with standing desks when you have them seriously loaded. If you could solve to Desk Wobble in standing mode - you'd be an industry leader.

[@Kavilion000]

Bennet's idea about not linking desk to a particular brand/style of mount is great. You should consider having a space on the back to put clamp on screen mount. As many people that would like to have a sit stand desk most likely already own mounts.

[@Finlander89]

The encased legs are really sweet. For the cable management space, I'd add passthroughs on the sides for ppl who like to have the pc tower off the desk on a dresser next to the table or something like that.

[@alyxikakos]

What's up with the plume of sawdust on the wall behind Doug above a 'spray booth' at time marker 6:30?

[@patrickstaring6464]

I personally love the look of Jason's executive style sit stand desk with the covered stand legs but think for the average consumer it will most likely start to creep outside of their price range. I think the biggest upside of the modular design is it allows a much broader entry point with the options to customize it to one's own budget and needs.

[@leadwolf17]

Once I own my dream home with custom designed office, I’ll get the executive prophecy desk. Until then, I want the modular desk.

[@cgrant61289]

I’m so glad Big Tony got so much screen time in this episode.

[@thekamikazeking1437]

So an idea for a drawer that on top of the desk is to implement a “lift top”, similar to those coffee tables that can convert into desks. This makes it so you won’t necessarily have to clear the desk at all and it removes the pull out drawer entirely. I think it would look a lot cleaner as well

[@DurdleDers]

I get the weirdest dopamine rush just listening to these guys talk about woodworking.

[@fantasticfedoraman]

Am excited for a new desk, glad to see the cheaper option coming out first :p

[@bryonpope4622]

Depends on the price points for both desks and the types of add-ons for the modular desk. The modular desk sounds like it would be a good choice as it would allow the buyer to get the components that they want instead of just getting a standard desk.

[@aricrepp3253]

One thing that I think many people are speaking on in the comments - maybe as Wyrmwood/non-desk enthusiasts/work from home people you guys are coming from your perspective of purely woodworking. I think what would set you apart is to take the modularity you guys build into your products and solve the 'known' issues with what makes typical/generic sit-stand desks crap. You've hit the head on some issues like styling but that's a given considering Wyrmwood is high end wood products, now solve the technical problems and it'll sell no issues

[@Alzorath]

I would probably go top bevel on both of them, especially on a sit-stand desk - since the sharp edges that the bottom bevel creates on top, create pinch points if you rest your arms.

[@vyse4907]

Just throwing in that there are also sit stand desks that use the same mechanism as height-adjustable chairs (pneumatic? Idk, you pull a little lever under the plate and then you can move to any position you want in one swift move). No electricity required, cheaper and faster to move into position. When you use these electric things you stop changing from sitting to standing quickly because it takes half a minute every time and makes noise while doing so.

[@lokithecat7225]

What every desks needs.... A pull out Drawer that has an extendable doohickey, that allows it to be used as a Desk. Because Desks can't be used as Desks, that is what Drawer attachments are for.

[@MystryDaMachine]

Need a way to mount more than 2 monitors... and a way to mount a desktop underneath the table

[@PluralPaul]

I like Bennet's idea for the monitor arm clamp, but I think you should offer the ability to either have a clamp hole or a screw hole for arms that can/need to be drilled into the table. A possible issue with Bennet's option is that it doesn't allow for the monitor arm to be clamped as far back as possible, which, depending on the monitor arm, could reduce desk real estate by forcing the monitors to be closer to the user. Maybe you could have an optional cut-out in the back of the cable-management compartment to allow for bulkier/longer monitor arm clamps. I'd love to draw up some ideas for that if warranted.

[@MissJesStar]

Modular table for the win! I love the cable management (on Jason's) but I would change the door to a "J" shelf. Currently I think it looks more like an "L" shelf ya know? If you have cables in there already, the "L" will just throw those cables everywhere. a J Shelf will keep cables in a channel. Also for opening the Cable management, you could do a spring loaded knob that releases a peg that holds the whole thing together. This gives you control and a stable locking mechanism.

[@will_danz]

Hyped to see telescoping legs, would be cool to see them as an option for your other tables too...

[@LadyVampire92]

I really hope you bring back the preset heights for it. Our desks at work allow you to preset heights and it is so nice to have it go to the same spot every time. I also use monitors from work at home so the preset mount wont work for them. Our monitors connect into a single stand that has a c-clamp to not take up desk room. If the edges of the table extended past where parts connect to it on the sides and the back that would work for anyone with c-clamps

[@Conman1161]

Loving this so far! Totally into both the fixed and modular desks, but I wanted to voice my input about the monitor stands: I would like if you guys offered models with 0, 2, or 3 monitor mounts. 0 would allow people (like me) to use their single monitor with its OEM mount or for Ultrawide monitors (and a 1x VESA seems like a waste), 2 would cover most people who do gaming/streaming/similar who have only 2 monitors, and 3 would let you appeal to professionals (content creators, data analysts, jobs where 2 monitors doesn’t cut it). Looking forward to how it turns out, and hoping the cost is low enough I can get one!!

[@inkilingofakind]

Power plugs and maybe some usb hubs built into the table so that we can plug our monitors/mics/camera/lighting into the desk compartment and you only have clean cables running to the plugin and computer. Having some of the modules built around what a streamer or conent create might want would be amazing. A modular peice dedicated for streamers to put their periferals such as streamdecks, beacn mix create, or goxlr would be so freaking amazing.

[@the_brutal_king4314]

Two drawers, each with a slide-out top. This enables both lefties and righties. Not to mention, the left side could work as a drink / meal tray: I eat at my desk often enough and I'm sure other office workers do as well. Another thing: How the hell are you gonna package this?

[@sir_snarf]

@jason why not have it wing out to the right instead of lift up? You could just have it pivot on a bar in the right corner of the desk storage. Wouldn't have to worry about things on top of the desk

[@brainbowfright666]

Please make these affordable. Loving it.

[@dconrad246]

Do they have a standard for monitor mount bases? Similar to a Vesa system? OR you have a steel fab company nearby might see if they can make one with a shield with the Vesa mount holes to do your own brand of monitor mount....

[@carolinemckee7009]

I think y'all might be limiting your focus to a "gaming" sit-stand desk. You have a whole market of artists/writers who would kill for a desk like this. Here's an idea on how to make the drawers modular: swappable dividers. Dividers for papers, dividers for pens, dividers for paint bottles, for sketch books, artist tools, anything. You could choose from a selection of different dividers to suit whatever needs your hobby/occupation requires. Another thing to make modular is the hidden desk area on the side; have a variety of options from white board, to pen holder, to game control holder. Last, could never go wrong with a set cup holders. One for drink, and one for paint water.

[@hellomoto3361]

If you end up doing a bottom bevel with a magnetic rail. Please make a magnetic adapter to make a small part of the desk square. That way your monitor arms or any other clamp items can still fit while keeping the bottom bevel. Way to many people have specific monitor layouts or mic arms or camera arms or light poles that will no longer work with a bevel

[@Omenowl]

Depends on how the modular desk looks and how sturdy it is. I do like having it accept the normal table accessories so you can put your drink somewhere it won’t spill onto the top of the desk.

[@TravisANDJake]

All I want is to be able to slide the addons that would be used with the gaming tables into the edge of a sit stand desk. Not sure how it would look, but it would be cool!

[@daringdarius5686]

I graduate this Fall... Goals: 1) Get a kick-ass job (or one that pays well enough) 2) Save up and Purchase a new Car 3) Save up and Purchase a Prophecy 4) Save up and (hopefully by this time, with my obviously kick-ass paying job) buy the Prophecy Sit/Stand Desk If the pricing ends up being too steep I'll likely go Modular, but... specifically the framing on the legs... that was slick... that was amazing Jason. And yea, it does suffer from "college-itis" without that sleeve.

[@contented-winter]

As someone who currently has a sit/stand desk with 4 monitors (all on one mount), 2 laptops, a docking station, 2 usb hubs, a mesh router, a few other items like wireless chargers, and the desk itself all needing to be plugged in, cable management for this type of desk is a nightmare. When I saw Bennett's cable box design I immediately wanted it for my desk. I work in IT so I've run a lot of cables for desk setup and his box allows for easy access to hold all sizes of cables, power bricks, and possibly a power strip which would solve the biggest PIA for this type of desk which is making sure the cables have enough slack in them to not pull when the desk moves. I like Jason's design, but having something dead center in the middle of the desk is just asking for bruised legs.

[@zduarte2012]

Maybe this is a perfect place to implement the veneered computer technology that was previously on Wrymlife? I can't remember the episode but I see potential!

[@alastralguardian]

Executive

[@novatheorem]

Executive desk ALLLLLLL DAY. So nice. Can't wait to get one.

[@mattcurr9931]

LMAO @ "Not a mimic" and "Still not a mimic" on the monitor proxies.