X Men 97: Tolerance is Extinction

[@HeilRay]

3:44 I think Silver Samurai is just casually looking from the rooftop like any typical foreboding anime brooder.

[@ScottJPowers]

These "mutants" are not another species if they can still reproduce with humans and produce viable offspring that will also be able to reproduce.

[@mizu7662]

Yeah, I have never really understood the plot point of mutants being treated like they are somehow a different species. Its like insisting anyone who is born double jointed isn't a human being because they get a cool nifty thing most people don't.

[@jakec9522]

I think, biologically speaking, that would make mutants a sub-species. There is evidence that humans and Neanderthals could produce viable children. Some people even still have traces of them in their DNA. So, for mutants, that means they're still human in the same way that humans are primates. But their starting to genetically drift away from their ancestors.

[@blazikeaton7478]

when have people ever needed a reason to hate one another? theyre different, and thats all that matters to the hateful😢

[@gottesurteil3201]

​@@mizu7662Magneto is the one who usually makes that distinction, he's a megalomaniac.

[@theliato3809]

@@mizu7662 The origin goes back to Trasks arc in the comics. He made it seem like mutants were the next stage in human evolution in a similar way to the old idea neanderthals came before cro maguns who out competed them. This theory ended up getting disproven alter on but at the time it was considered the accepted fact. Science moved on but comics have not.

[@pauljanetzke]

Never underestimate the ability of Disney to murder a golden goose just to enjoy the pate.

[@Mathadar]

Like they did with Star Wars, eh?

[@markmunroe-hz8rf]

While Magneto was in the wrong, despite understandable in his anger, Xavier is also too blinded by his own ideals, even though he is also about hope.

[@dragonwatter]

well said.

[@emperorsean1]

Magneto was not wrong. He attacked after the genocide of genoshia which the government funded and funded bastion. Magneto was right Prof x was wrong to take control of magneto and turn the power back on and try and change magneto. He was never trying to take over the world and Prof x flat out blames him for everything after Prof x left magneto his x-men. If anything the real villain of this show is Prof x who is a hypocrite. Everything Magneto did was justified. Magneto was right.

[@mizu7662]

​@@emperorsean1Professor X had as much right to force Magneto to end the EMP shutdown as Magneto had the right to kill a bunch of uninvolved humans with a worldwide EMP burst in the name of protecting his fellow mutants. Magneto doesn't get to kill a bunch of people for 'the greater good' then cry about it when its his turn to be the egg that needs to be broken to make an omelette.

[@redram6080]

​​@@mizu7662Absolute facts. Don't forget that he also most likely killed many mutants in that emp attack as well. Maybe even more than Genosha since it was a world wide event and not regulated to an island

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

​@@mizu7662 Honestly, many seem to forget that Magneto is a "villain."

[@Polka_Ch]

I was wrong. I was very wrong. Because it was Disney, I was ready to not like it. But this was better than I thought. Sure I had a few dislikes, but 97' was pretty good overall.

[@lordadorable1140]

This will change

[@nothing-of5yc]

Same here the only reason why I might give the show a chance is cause of Nax Taku

[@Sorain1]

Save that first season then, for you will not wish to cherish what is coming.

[@joellim7521]

bastion did a vegeta hmph.. he'll rather die than accept goku's help

[@LowellLucasJr.]

Or Xavier's in this case.

[@askani21]

In the end, Bastion tried to grab Cyclops's hand. He was pulled away by the implosion. But it's unclear why he did so, maybe he was trying to attack, or just escape..

[@sablenance64]

I literally talked to Larry Houston at Comic Con revolution Friday night while setting up my booth… he’s actively working on story elements so whatever they don’t keep from Beau, Larry Houston will be overseeing so it can’t get fucked up.

[@jonahthebutterbeerdrinker4166]

I talked to larry 2 years ago at LA comic con very great guy he told me morph was suppose to be killed not be resurrected but the company didn't want to cause it was too extreme violence In it.

[@sablenance64]

@@jonahthebutterbeerdrinker4166 Yes he said the same thing when I met him for the first time years ago at the Manhattan Beach Comic Bug.

[@jonahthebutterbeerdrinker4166]

​@sablenance64 such a great moment to meet Larry next when I meet him with his producer and editer probably the cast as well I'll ask them to get their signature on the Xmen #14 first appearance of the sentinels.

[@sablenance64]

@@jonahthebutterbeerdrinker4166 Hopefully you can make a major con in Cali area nearly the whole cast and creative was there I think they’re all going to San Diego CC he said and LA wonder con to get hype for season 2 since the rating are so low.

[@jonahthebutterbeerdrinker4166]

​@@sablenance64 I'm sure they're gonna be at LA Comic Con no doubt.

[@TheRealSpiderMew]

Time Travel happens because Bastion took cable's arm, and the bodyslide tech is stuck in that got infused in his body. So i bet you when bastion wakes up trying to self heal and it responds to everything that happened and magneto pulling asteroid m back up into orbit, the bodyslide went haywire and sent everyone everywhere. Part of Bastion is made from Nimrod so that bit of him was calling to its timeline that no longer exists, all this goes back to the episode "One Man's Worth."

[@bookat69]

Yeah, I thought it was kind of funny when he mentioned he'd let it slide because it looked cool...with it being the whole bodyslide teleport/time travel cube in Cable's arm

[@thewingedringer]

That's not right at all. You don't just get randomly transported to the future where Apocalypse's origin is, or Wolverine properly ending up in bygone days of neanderthals which we did not see, or Jean and Scott ending up in the future. Also the city at the end of the episode is Chronopolis. This is Kang's doing.

[@alexanderwsm6296]

Fun fact - an average human can survive in a vacuum for about a minute (half a minute without any repercussions even). So, Jubelee staying alive isn't a big stretch. However, all talking and clapping outside Earth's atmosphere is indeed a jarring nonsense.

[@quillclock]

90 seconds to pass out from oxygen deprivation so anything after that is permanent brain damage, also the effects of being exposed to unshielded solar radiation is unknown. more than likely eye and skin damage in less than a min. Full power UV-C from the sun seems like a bad time. also cancer down the road

[@jovanleonardi1574]

to be fair most of us were raise off of 80's and 90's over-the-top action films, until forced to critically think about it i assumed all the air would be ripped from your body as your eye pop out all in a matter of seconds.

[@RockLucena]

They were on the blue area of the moon. It's a portion of the moon with artificial atmosphere were the Watcher and the Inhumans live. It's the same place were the X-Men fought the Shiar Emperial Guard in the Phoenix saga of the original show.

[@JoshuaHopkins-j9o]

Fun Fact... There is absolutely no empirical evidence to support your statement about surviving in the vacuum of space for any amount of time... and the assertion is as nonsensical as talking & clapping while doing so

[@alexanderwsm6296]

@@JoshuaHopkins-j9o Dude, can you just google about things you are trying to talk about? Yes, there IS empirical evidence about human survivability in a vacuum.

[@ECSDaemon]

'97 really needs Demayo to helm it, he knows his X-Men lore.

[@grobanworldnews4216]

Sorry, but he's history. Disney wants nothing to do with him.

[@ECSDaemon]

@grobanworldnews4216 yeah I know. But it doesn't stop me from saying they'll ruin what they have without him

[@Blackstorm99]

To be fair this is not the forts time Xmen breathed in space. At least for short periods. That happened during Phoenix saga as well. Bastion also had the time travel tech in him when he got sucked into the gravity drive so that might have caused the time jump

[@JohnAquariusPodcast]

I thought jubilees powers could short circuit machinery so why did they make her so useless. I could've sworn I seen an episode in the classic X-Men where she took out a sentinel.

[@NinjaGateStudios]

You're right. In the pilot episode she destroys the VCR when she interacted with it (making her dad angry) and when she runs away to the mall she short circuits an arcade machine. Which gives me my favorite line of the episode. Arcade Attendant: Hey, do you know how much that cost? Jubilee: Yeah... A quarter. Flips her glasses, takes her drink and casually walks away. The most boss moment in that episode.

[@christopherauzenne5023]

⁠​⁠@@NinjaGateStudios Yeah jubilee powers have always been somewhat vague/confusing, from first glance it seems like they’re some form of pyrotechnics/explosives since they look like fireworks but as you guys mentioned she has destroyed machinery so them being electrical based would make sense (and especially gives reason to why she often wears a raincoat/kitchen gloves aka rubber insulation) But best answer to why she couldn’t do to much damage in these fights is probably the sentinels upgraded themselves (they did the same for magneto) or bastion is just too high level machinery?

[@loszhor]

I'm glad to know that they did this series well!

[@capacamaru]

Is the show bad? Give the writing team more projects Is the show good? Fire the showrunner

[@spinningtornado4543]

We so far don't have a clear answer on why the firing even happened because the one tied to DeMayo's NSFW pictures seems very strange. The other ongoing theory is that he was fired over creative differences with the studio and the rest of the writing team.

[@uanime1]

I'd have liked the series to have had more nuance. For example the UN preparing a way to destroy Genosha if it becomes a threat and having Bastion use this plan without permission, rather than the UN just destroying Genosha because they hate mutants. That way Xavier doesn't look like an idiot for trying to appeal to them. Also I'd like Magneto to try and save some of the mutants after damaging the Magnetosphere, instead of leaving them all to die. Especially if the mutants are being attacked by people who lost loved ones due to Magneto's EMP. That way the theme can be how humans and mutants suffer because of the actions of others in their group.

[@ryanmaddugal]

I keep saying it over and over, I think They’re rushing through all these great stories (That were worth a season EACH) to get to the hellfire gala, Sync, Kamala the mutant, Juggernaut the Mutant, Lez Mystic, Emma Stark Frost, X-23 wolverine, Gay Bobby, Krokoa island, etc You know, the boring woke stuff. Maybe not Season 2 but Season 3 Don’t forget in the very first teaser trailer, you see the hellfire flyer Teasing what’s coming Maybe that’s why they fired Beau Maybe they told him to rush it And they got woke activists to fully work on Season 3 so they can incorporate all of these things to the big screen or tv.

[@treybrannon4964]

That is my fear....write out those annoyingly popular 90's characters to make way for Krakoa self indulgence! Who wants to watch Gambit kick ass when we can have Animal-Girl just...being giggly?!?

[@thewingedringer]

i think you're reaching

[@GuiltlessGear]

This would definitely be a reach, if it weren't for literally everything marvel's produced in the last 6 years.

[@dougsmith6262]

As someone who experienced the original show as it first aired...bravo. Fucking bravo. 👏👏👏👏

[@marhawkman303]

My issue is everything feels like half of it's missing. It has great stuff... just... It's like a movie with the "boring" parts edited out.

[@TheRavenShadowsWolf]

3:32 - ANNND that's also EXACTLY why the billions of TONS of soil and sheet rock and magma WOULD protect the earth's core from ANY EMP pulse (and why Magneto - unless he was suicidal - would NEVER be stupid enough to pulse his powers THROUGH the earth. Around/across and over = Fine. The earth is still relatively safe and would survive. Through doesn't make any sense, because (and I say this with all possible irony) Grounding. Electro. Not just Magnetic. It literally WOULD NOT work the way the show thinks it does. What Jean did to Sinister: Yes. Jesus... BUT = Justified. Entirely. Think about it - not only did he CLONE her without her consent, he let that clone be with Scott. Who is the love of her life. Fucked him; fucked with his head - made it so Scott couldn't figure out which ONE of them he loves... and Jean experienced ALL of that. The sex. The Pregnancy. The birth... she just never actually physically went through it. Frankly something like that should have driven her insane... so is it vicious. Yes. Is it absolutely cold-blooded ruthless. Again, yes. Would I do the same... Hell. Yes. It depends on the size of the asteroid and how much burns up on re-entry. If it's big enough = sure. Most of us would be absolutely screwed. However if there were preperations like with Fallout's Vault system in place before that happened, we'd survive. Minutely. There are enough paranoid preppers who have similar sorts of shelters built that frankly some remnant of humanity would survive such an event. At least for maybe a generation or two. Depending on the state of the planet afterwards.

[@HyperMoeMan]

Did you notice how they laid out Magneto's powers just like the comic. I was so happy I saw that little Easter egg

[@Vespyr_]

The pacing of the finale was perfect. Proof that I believe the show would have been MUCH better served if each episode was 40m long. It felt great, imagine we got that much room to breathe for the previous episodes. They did so well all things considered, but that finale was awesome.

[@jacotromp59581]

The art in this show, holy fuuuuuuuuuuck!!!!! It's insanely magnificent

[@Hotchpotchsoup]

If there's an asteroid in orbit around the earth it's not gonna fall down if you nuke it. There would be SOME pieces going into the atmosphere but they'll likely burn up.. or since earth's surface is mostly water there's a good chance nobody would get hurt.

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

I really hope that Beau DeMayo is rehired and the screen writers remain to write the entire episodes of season 2. I don't want the series to go downhill.

[@Dodong0]

Looks like they have all his input for season 2 but season three will have nothing to do with him (if they get a third season). Hoping for a quick turnaround.

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

​@@Dodong0 Hopefully, they won't fumble by then. But when should they wrap it up?

[@VoltitanDev]

The animesque style Magneto did in the previous episodes reminds me of the Pryde of the X-Men when he raided Xavier's lair for the cerebro

[@treybrannon4964]

Jean as Phoenix saves Cable from Sinister. Jean: "The Phoenix survived inside me to protect my son!" 2 minutes later, Bastion is beating cable to death with bis own arm. Jean "The Phoenix has left me. This is fine."

[@adrianchatman5734]

I never thought that Disney would ever put the best show currently on TV. I would've laughed in someone's face. But sonuvabitch, they somehow did it. From start to finish it was amazing. Also, Xavier reminded why the X-Men are superHEROES, not just guys with superpowers. His and Cyclops actions reminds me of what Tim Drake once said, "We're the good guys. The good guys do what's right, not what's easiest."

[@johndurham6172]

I know Jeff from World Class Bullshitters said he couldn't get past the Wolverine Morp dynamic.

[@jg3000]

Bait and switch. Wait for it.

[@theliato3809]

15:11 My dude. Remember what company you're talking about.

[@1multiverse]

This show was a pleasant surprise: mutants are cool again!!

[@AClockworkHellcat]

Space isn't actually cold because there's nothing to bleed heat into. But the rest still doesn't make sense. I'm honestly *very* impressed that they didn't just keep going all-in on the "Magneto was right, genocide the humans" angle. I had a feeling they would, and I'm very glad to have been wrong.

[@TheSpiderworks]

Since Sebastian merged with Cables arm that had the time travel cube in it that might explain why they Xmen went into the timestream

[@mileums]

I don't know if anyone has said this, but it is stated by Captain America in his episode with Rogue that the Avengers are off-world, so they can't help the X-Men like they could. Also, it is stated in the end of the season finale that Pietro and Wanda are off-world, so I believe they are part of this roster of the Avengers.

[@stevenregina6429]

DeMayo answered somebody on X that the Avengers are off-planet for Operation: Galactic Storm. Using a Shi'ar-centric event for their absence is almost certainly setting up plots for next season or beyond.

[@mileums]

@@stevenregina6429 Niice, didn't know that. Now I'm hyped.

[@comicsgatekeeper9746]

Yes the emp thing was dodgy as fuck.And its never explained how the earth is doomed in 12 hours. Maybe the magnetosphere is failing maybe not but they never tell us

[@CordeliaWagner1999]

Jean. Grey cold mush became human. I never lined her as a child. The boring adult tthat can only stumble and faint. My feelings towards her are even stronger now.

[@swimmingmide]

I don't understand how Charles got out of the metal arm that was holding him and keeping the helmet that blocks psychic powers on his head. At the end of the previous episode Magneto had every X-man locked down and no one was in a position to fight him. I could have missed a scene but it seemed like he had outright won and then something happened off screen.

[@treybrannon4964]

Maybe there was someone there who could teleport? ;)

[@greyworld6242]

This was lighting in a bottle! But I hope season 2 will erase that mindset in the coming future. 10:38 Yeah where are the avengers at anyway? 15:34 Same for the Incredible Hulk and so we can get the she hulk we ACTUALLY want! This was a fun series.

[@seiryux04]

Gotta say this was a refreshing video, cant say that ive heard single positive thing about anything from ya. Do this more please review stuff you actually like and want to talk about.

[@cathygrandstaff1957]

Not sure dropping Asteroid M would end all life on Earth. To put things in perspective the asteroid that nuked the dinosaurs into extinction was 10-15 KM large, or a little less than 10 miles wide. By contrast Asteroid M is only a few square miles, large enough for an installation but nowhere near as large as an extinction level event asteroid. And that’s ignoring that it’s a hotly debated topic whether the asteroid even caused the dinosaurs’ extinction or whether it just finished them off after a period of decline due to other environmental factors. Then you get the debate about whether dinosaurs can in fact be called extinct when birds exist. The point is we’re talking an event that would give us a bad time, possibly wipe an unlucky country off the map depending on where it landed, but is probably survivable. Then again this is coming from someone who’s seen a few Gundam series, and Gundam loves dropping colonies. Also realistically you wouldn’t build a base close enough to earth that it would fall out of the sky if it lost power, you’d build it far enough up that it would assume a stable orbit with relatively little or no power needed to maintain it, because no one actually wants to waste power if they don’t have to. But then where would the drama come from?

[@IsiahBradley]

Jumbled thoughts: As a historian, I question sometimes about the whole "knowing your history" thing. At their worst, humans act on their own individual and collective self-interest and damn the torpedoes, including history. People who knew about the Jewish Holocaust stood by while Rwanda happened. Beau Demayo said the Jubilee/Sunspot fall and conversation took place within the Earth's atmosphere. I understand your annoyance with superhero comicbook/superhero logic. It's like in the 20th century, when supervillains would take over the United Nations, and, according to them, that meant controlling the world!! LOL!!!! Clearly *no one* who wrote superheroes back then knew what the U.N. was and did :) And if we're going to be picky: if the '90s Marvel animated universe is all canon/interrelated, how did Captain America escape that cosmic (?) field where he was trapped fighting the Red Skull forever, a la Spider-Man: TAS "Six Forgotten Warriors?" (Remember: at the end of Spider-Man: TAS "Secret Wars" arc, the Beyonder put all of the Secret Warriors back to their original spaces.) Maybe Tony Stark found a way to do it while Spider-Man was rescuing Mary Jane off-screen :) I'd like to tell you I care about all these goofs, but I really don't! Such great entertainment, starring my favorite universe!!! It'll take a while for Marvel to get to "Spider-Man '98" since it is determined to do Spider-Man animated fare for little kids. (Shades of when Marvel head Joe Quesada said that Marvel had to do "One More Day" because Spider-Man was not going to grow old like the reader?) THANKS for this!!!

[@R.J.Godzilla81]

To be fair, back in the 90’s the nuclear capable governments fired nukes at the original Asteroid M, but as a retaliatory strike because Fabian Cortez fired missiles at Earth; and the original Asteroid M crashed into the Earth back in the 90’s which also didn’t cause an extinction level event. Jubilee breathing AND TALKING in space is dumb, to an almost Last Jedi/Princess Leia degree. It’s not just heroes not acting. You’re telling me Dr. Doom couldn’t have fixed the problem with Earth’s magnetic field. I also stupidly kept waiting for Ultron to hack into Bastion and take him over. Truth be told I’m not even sure Ultron exists in this universe, LOL.

[@jdzencelowcz]

I DO hope the deaths get reversed, otherwise it's gonna B a depressing continuation.

[@Scyllas]

Beau DeMayo disse que os Vingadores estavam lidando com a situação Kree-Shiar nesse meio tempo, logo só o Capitão e o Homem de Ferro estavam na Terra.

[@Bizarrejoe]

The way Asteroid M disappeared reminds me of the finale of season 4. Beyond Good and Evil. A 4 episode special where Bishop ends up meeting one Nathaniel Richards, aka Inmortus. And considering that the way they disappeared reminds me of him, and that Nathaniel Richards and his tech are significant in both time periods that the xmen landed at, i get a strong feeling that he, or other versions of Kang will be involved.

[@warpath7985]

Yooow, me and my boy been laughing about the Jubilee in space part everyday since that happened. Like HOW did they miss this??? Not to mention surviving re-entry LMAO. I have one disagreement with what was said, the pacing of the series was waaay too fast. Like the inferno storyline was done in like half an episode or something. Pacing is waaay too fast and thus so many things happen without explanation, biggest one is why did the master of magnetism didn't use his powers directly against metal robots. Man was able to lift a asteroid, large enough to cause a ELE upon crashing, into space without breaking a sweat. The entire series felt like there maybe like a directors cut out there, because it felt like so much was cut out to make each episode fit into half hour.

[@zacharymccutcheon8607]

The pacing of this show was too fast. So much happened, we move from villian to villian, introducing and killing major characters. Sometimes all in the span of a single episode. There were several excellent stories here, but they moved so fast that I couldn't really appreciate them. Jean kisses Logan. Then Scott has a secret conversation with Madelyne Then there's Cabel Now Madelyne's dead Meanwhile I'm still trying to figure out what the impact of Jean kissing Logan is, and how that's going to affect them moving forward, but we can't explore that because Magnus just died. But psych, he's not dead, even though the people that were with him are dead? Just, too much, too fast. I love the refrences. I love seeing this stuff on screen. But the show needed to slow down.

[@vanquese8947]

The avengers doesn't really exist in this universe but kinda do bc the rights were weird back in the day I also like how Cap is slowly realizing how fucked up the government is

[@SkyReign777]

That what I was thinking.

[@AClockworkHellcat]

But why would he only be realizing it at that point? JSG's remark about Cap being out-of-character a few episodes back comes to mind; to paraphrase heavily, "He's Captain America, not Captain Government, and if he can't do the right thing in his uniform, he'll do it in black sweats and a balaclava. The uniform comes off, but his ideals don't." By 1997 he'd likely seen plenty of examples of the government doing fucked-up things. Better late than never, I guess, but even so...

[@SonicBRmario]

People forget that this is not Steve with his journey complete. Even in the MCU, it needed to get to a point for him to distrust the government, and that was after discovering Hydra was conroling the system. For all we know, this Cap never had this incident happen. To him, it's a bunch of flawed people trying to manage a very complicated world, and he is trying his best to help with complicated politics carefully, because he probably only knows them at surface level and doesn't want to risk his country. I really respected Steve in that episode with Rogue (even if I'm a bit disappointed because he didn't go with her) because he could have just jumped her and tried to arrest her for attacking multiple military facilities. But no, he stopped and talked, and also tried to reason with her. People just want old Cap back, but we are getting there.

[@sboinkthelegday3892]

And what majority group in "America" is he the captain of? Native Americans? Native Palestinians? You should remind yourself that 700 000 000 people are "not Americans" according to 340m Americans, because they have WRONG GOVERNMENTS, like ties to Western Rome's culture. So instead of WESTERN they are LATIN Americans. Those americans are whose captain he is, those ones?

[@DeBean970]

You're all ignoring Spider-Man TAS. Cap has spent very little time in the post WW2 era compared to his usual counterparts. He also wasn't around for Nixon who heavily impacted people's distrust in government. They haven't actually explained how Cap is even around.

[@benconforzi5696]

I never got the whole appeal to humanity thing. As if only being good is what makes someone human. Being human means you’re capable of doing good and/or evil acts.

[@johnnychcr]

Not to mentioned that those were the weakest nukes I've ever seen on media

[@jameljenks2584]

I was so happy that I was wrong here. This show was awesome and it made me happy. Also, to president Kelly, this is why Creed is beating you. Dumb stuff like that

[@apollolux]

I think the show did an okay job this season, though it certainly was not without flaws. The thing I felt was its most consistent problem was the pacing, likely evident because of trying to fit what could've been thirteen or fourteen episodes worth of story into a ten-episode season, but my biggest complaint (which looks like it'll be ramped up exponentially for season 2) is its use of "relative anachronism," which I've mostly opined about previously expecting just a one-off usage but given the contents of this season finale needs further explanation. Other people supposedly have problems with how certain characters were portrayed throughout this season vs the original series and most common comic depictions, but that's beyond the scope of this comment. X-Men '97 was advertised with the conceit of "what if the original series continued through 1997." I fully understand that it was produced starting from 2023 and therefore would have access to the knowledge and history of the extra 25+ years beyond the end of the original series run, but that being said if you call a project a sequel series to the original animated run _and_ even though it was made with 2020s technology expect it to honor the spirit of as if it were released in 1997 then it would not have access to storylines that didn't happen yet to use as source to adapt regardless of whether the source was comics, movies, games, or even audio plays or KZbin videos. All they have to do to avoid such scrutiny is not advertise it as a sequel series, not advertise it as "97." I originally complained in previous comments that the Genosha events being adapted in episode 5, later reinforced by the presence of diamond-form Emma Frost in episode 7 as a survivor, were one such anachronism under this definition since apparently the only thing this could possibly have adapted was the very specific equivalent event from the early 2000s, years after the original animated series ended and not yet existing in 1997. It could be easily brushed off by "rule of cool," the fact that in the context of the season it was a "natural" occurrence given the progression of events and did what it was supposed to do to further progress the season's overarching plot, but most importantly _being a one-time thing._ But when you have the sequel hook, the teaser, of the hand of Apocalypse picking up the burnt card of Gambit, making it all but obvious that what peeps have been saying is almost certainly gonna happen about adapting "Gambit as the Horseman of Death," part of a storyline that's _years even later_ than the Genosha event in the comics, then anachronism isn't just a one-off occurrence for flavor, it's a pattern. Bastion absorbed Cable's cyber arm during their tussle and upgraded himself. That arm almost certainly also contained Cable's time-travel tech in it, and just on that exchange alone that ended up opening the path to being a pretty groovy way to ultimately executing the Totally Not Siege Perilous scenario that they did in a way like how the original series could have done it. _That_ is the kind of original series honoring they should've been doing more of during the season, preferably with more time/episodes. Instead, they're gonna MCU it like I feared and fast-forward past years of stories...actually, worse, since they've already called their hands as being relatively anachronistic this time. Not just fast-forwarding past years of stories, fast-forwarding past when the series would have chronologically aired and adapting more and more material that didn't exist yet. For a show that calls itself "X-Men '97," I absolutely did _not_ want the show to adapt material from years later until it's caught up (i.e. the '97-'98 season runs then can use material from 1997, the '98-'99 season can use from 1998, etc), and even then they should still learn the lessons from the original series' meh attempts to adapt their own period contemporary storylines like Phalanx Covenant (which was clearly a rush job) and just not rush them.

[@joyis9638]

Rest assured Disney will destroy season 2 with wokeness b/c that is the only thing that matters to these jackazzes.

[@SergioHernandez-le8wp]

Man, how could you just gloss over "MAGNETO LIVES!!". I damn near cried when i saw that. I am a little biased, though, as Magneto is and always has been my favorite villain ever; one of the most complex and well-rounded characters in pop culture, in my opinion. This show just reinforced it for me

[@darkprinceofdorne]

I got such goosebumps when he went from catatonic to heroic power blast. Holy shit this was so good.

[@davidkrane7026]

Thor was almost definitely off world with the Avenger heavy hitters as part of Operation Galactic Storm (Kree vs Shi'ar war, the show runner confirmed it was happening)

[@onemadkat]

So…is Wolverine dead? Because in the comic, Jean had to telekinetically hold his body together. I know the answer, but this is another thing that didn’t transfer entirely right from the comics. Plus it’s a shame we won’t get to see Logan save Jean from Bad Re-entry Redux as we do in Wolverine #75. They seem to be focusing on Jubilee x Roberto as her main arc, but it would be nice if they explore her bond with Wolvie if he has to deal with bone claws and they don’t just give him straight to Apocalypse

[@Arkaeus04]

Thor is probably in Asgard fixing another of Loki’s tomfoolery shenanigans

[@Baritone1972]

I am estatic that I was wrong. Some script ideas are meh. But overall it's great

[@mediamass1404]

12:23 her powers equal heat and there should be some atmosphere in and arround the asteroid

[@dussan2]

It's not weird for other heroes not to get involved in mutant shenanigans. before Bendis the X-Men comics where pretty much isolated, a cameo here and there but the X-men saving the world routinely without anyone helping out wasn't out of the ordinary.

[@permeus2nd]

1:57 ok now I’m curious I’m wondering just what the longest amount of time it’s been between a major conflict (ww1, ww2, Vietnam, Ukraine and all the others before and in between) it’s one of them things I’ve always know have been around but never actually looked into probably because I’ll be depressed at just how little we human spend killing each other over one pointless thing after another.

[@wadereynoldsdeadpool5768]

Actually if you paid attention to the the scene with King tchaka and Captain America Captain America actually sided with black panther

[@Anti_Woke]

Orbital mechanics: things in orbit are going around the planet. They do not fall down if you shoot them, because they're still going around. They only fal down if you slow them down, whereas any nukes could just as likely speed them up - pushing them further away.

[@Yezhanium]

Ngl, as a 32 y.o. man who is a pot bellied, hairy as fuck, and does bus driving for a living. Diner goodbye scene made me bawl. My mom died of kidney failure when I was 14, dad didn't let me see her, hoping she'd be fine, hence why would I try to see her - it'll work out. Dad died of brain hemorrhage just 6 years later. I didn't go to see him either, knowing he's comatose bound to the bed. Blood clot was too deep to operate, but he's held for three weeks. And I didn't go. I was too afraid. I never got to say goodbye. Because as dad did with mom, I hoped I won't have to. That he' ll be fine. I regret not taking the chance and shows like that are a painful, but necessary reminder - don't turn down what little time you can have with those who're close to you. It might be your last.

[@cyberdemonic260]

Alright Imma get eaten alive for admitting this, but I actually haven't really watched the show all that much aside from your reviews and some bits and pieces that may parents watched (they are both X-Men fans and fans of the OG 90's show) and I really didn't watch any episodes until the finale and boy am I ashamed that I didn't. I mean I was never an X-Men fan, it just didn't catch my eye as much as a kid like the Spider-Man 90's show, besides more so back then and even now the only superhero that I had eyes for was Iron Man. However I will say that I was impressed with the show and the finale actually got me interested in what's to come next, I actually do like a lot of the characters and how the show does deal with more touchy subjects, I mean one of my favorite aspects is how it really does make you think about them long after. One issue I did have though was how they portrayed Cap, I mean I get it, it's not his show and all, but they could have left him out of the whole adventure aside from the cameos without making him seem useless and weak. Like you said in your previous review Cap sticks to his morals no matter what and he is sympathetic to the Mutants cause, him deciding to not help Rouge just because he's Captain America was pretty dumb in my opinion. I think it was worse in this episode where he just looked sad and barely objected to the Magneto protocol, but overall I did like the finale, Bastion was a pretty cool villain as a ruthless and cruel hate filled cyborg dude and I did like the moments between Professor X and Magneto quite a bit. Overall even though I'm not much of an X-Men fan YET, I am pumped for what's to come next.

[@juanbisonosuero3650]

11:53 I agree I think that ambiguity is 👍🏽 good

[@theseproblemsmatter1]

With Beau DeMayo gone, i dont have faith in the future sequels

[@spinningtornado4543]

As far as we know, he has helped writing Season 2. Beyond that ? That's a question up in the air.

[@kei2604]

I hope they do bring him back because the show is better than I thought it was going to be. And I'm always happy to be proven wrong when it comes to this sort of thing. I just really want good stories with good characters at the end of the day. And that's what this whole entire thing was. I couldn't wait until the next week to see what happened. Every single time.

[@zalla00]

I personally think the reason the show might have not gotten so many views is because everyone thought disney would make it woke nonsense, when in reality it is anything but. There are some woke parts, mainly involving morph, but they're not thrown in your face and done in a preachy manner which makes them tolerable. Overall I gotta give this show a 9/10, something I NEVER imagined i'd say about a Disney product after so many failures.

[@doctorgames101b]

This new X-Men TV show looks and sounds cool. At this rate, it may be just as great as the 1990s X-Men TV show. Thanks for these reviews, Guy.

[@fenix831]

While I will agree there are many positive things about this remake/continuation I feel important to point out areas of concern. 1: The bizarre love triangle of Rogue/Gambit/Magneto which really altered existing cannon in an unsettling way (considering Rogue was a teenager when Mystique adopted her and introduced her to Magneto). 2: The lack of creative writing when it came to cameos and world ending scenario (ie give a reason why Dr. Strange/ Black Panther/Fantastic Four/Avengers don't help apart from "the plot says so"). 3: The apparent hand waving forgetfulness of both Magneto's and Bastion's actions. While I can appreciate idealism and forgiveness of Xavier/Cyclops to a point.....its really hard to wipe away the fact both antagonists enacted mass genocide and are never held accountable. Even for a kids show we shouldn't dumb things down too much. It would be similar to if Hiter/Stalin were alive today and rather than hold them accountable for their actions...we just break out the smores and sing kumbaya. There is much of this show that is an improvement from other Disney works but I can't say its perfect. I welcome civil discussion.

[@CocTheElf]

ure' mum geh

[@Brandonweifu]

2.they are busy helping people in the world as shown in there cameos Also,and this is most important This show is x men,not x men and marvel heroes

[@fenix831]

@@Brandonweifuthank you for your reply. I'm not sure if part of your reply is missing as the "2." would seem to indicate you were trying to answer all concerns. I understand this is an X-Men show and X-Men will be the primary focus, but when writing powerful beings into a story (ie Dr. Strange/Avengers/FF) you still need to include a reason why they are doing nothing or doing little when the stakes are world wide. The same thing happened during the original show as well. Those cameos as well as the Phoenix/Jean Grey deus ex machina risks sucking out the tension for future stories if not handled well.

[@technomicah]

Magneto says 'bar in Germany' and people still saying its Vietnam.

[@ThePresat0r]

Man, I'm going to miss the weekly X-Men videos :(

[@Silverwing2112]

"Tell me somethin' Bastion, do you know what a firecracker tastes like? How about *three thousand* of them?" -Jubilee

[@johnmetzakis2910]

im also confused as to why mother Akani did not recognize Scott and jean, unless they have changed her and she isn't Rachel summers.

[@apollolux]

If they adapted "The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix" decently enough, the convo where Askani and the couple reveal themselves to each other would happen later in the actual season rather than during this season finale cliffhanger.

[@mandelharvey3429]

Magneto is not a villain in this show. He’s an empowered victim. Big difference. Figure master molds plan to put a robot head on Kelly.

[@positiveecho326]

Pretty sure setting off a world wide emp, that caused nuclear reactors to melt down, puts him square in the villains category. Sympathetic, sure, but villain nonetheless. Plus he had been up to no good prior to his taking over the X-Men. It’s a continuation of the original series not a whole new universe.

[@mandelharvey3429]

@@positiveecho326 he is the same morally justified guy from the original series and as introduced in the comic books. Later writers couldn't understand the oppressed minority defending himself and had him go off mission to do stuff to be counted bad. He was a bad guy in the wolverine and the X-Men show. they changed magneto. Different continuity. Magneto in the original series was perfectly moral. Completely justified at all times all the way through the run of the show. Following genosha and having prime sentinels murdering multitudes. The stopping a genocide justifies. If people stopped trying to genocide. If anyone else did anything to stop the multiple mass murderers. That EMP is explicitly a heroic action. Undoing it resumes mass murder. The president did nothing to stop the mass murderers from resuming if he restored the power. Magneto didn't even seek revenge. He just stopped the murderers. Everyone caught in that collateral is squarely on the president that funded the murderers. They cared nothing about protecting the people they apparently didn't like. Would have been a gesture if they'd lifted finger one about the murderers

[@SM-cv8sv]

You remember the time Magneto's personal kgb slapped one of the slave collars on Gambit, not only taking his powers away but also torturing him, and trying to kill him?

[@demoulius1529]

When I heard they were gonna do Xmen 97 I was fulyl expecting to see just another of my favorite shows out of my youth get beaten with the current day-ism stick and get woked up. Pleasantly suprised it wasent the case here!

[@RockLucena]

Beau DeMayo is not a fan of Captain America and it shows. 🤭

[@TheTech1337]

In the ending scenes I never noticed Wolverine or Storm, so they might be in a completely different area in time. Funny, as they have a history as time travellers in a different future/reality.

[@GoblinKnightLeo]

If that line is accurate, wiping out the mutants is justified.

[@jerr0.]

My only gripe with the T'Chaka scene is it means the 90's Fantastic Four cartoon isn't canon. They did their Black Panther origin episode so T'Chaka should be dead already. It's more of a mindfuck because Morph turned into Reed in the same episode with a character model clearly stylized after that show.

[@charlesfaulknerjr7841]

Just Some Guy Wooooooooo I truly missed your commentary

[@Ramsey276one]

11:09 make that ID4!

[@xenoranger79]

The end of XMen 97 missed the mark. They set up Onslaught, but ducked out of that story arc.

[@Titus921]

I think Rogue can breath in outer space is because she has Captain Marvel's powers and she can breath in outer space. Roberto gets stronger the closer he is to the sun I'm not sure how he would breath but yes it would be nice if the show explain why.

[@ironkza]

I think it was too much spectcle to cover for some really curve balls by the writers

[@tempestflare4339]

Roberto's powers create a small atmosphere allowing Juiblee to survive

[@popstarprincess123]

JSG are you looking for logic or not?

[@ChrisDeebo]

You: "Where are the Avengers?" The X-Men every time shit goes down "Where are the Avengers?" You basically understanding why the X-Men tend to hate the Avengers in general

[@drama_killer]

Theory : Bastion inherits Cable’s time travel tech once he integrates that technology and that’s how they are able to be flung through time.

[@Bluesit32]

I'm not sure that's a young Cable. He looks awfully...healthy. As I recall, there was a back-up plan in case Nathan couldn't survive. And that plan caused quite a bit of strife.

[@VladMcCain]

So would you say this is an actual continuation of the original X-Men series?

[@TheDoomed]

The time travel was hack but the teaser was pure gold

[@AquilaGuard]

I find it amusing that Just some guy has a problem believing the EMP pulse can be undone but doesnt bat an eye at Asteroid M falling to Earth SLOWLY somehow being super dangerous. Real asteroid hits are dangerous because the asteroid is moving extremely fast and so has a lot of energy on impact. Complaining about the EMP Pulse is like complaining about the Hulk getting his power from Gamma Radiation. "We know how radiation works, it doesnt work like that, the Hulk should be dead and not a superhero instead.

[@theliato3809]

Marvel gamma radiation is radiation from hell is why. Also the EMP was something funky going on with the magneto sphere which is why the power was able to come back on.

[@Tkscz]

All I want to know is how is Apocalypse even back? Didn't he get erased from time? Also, they show that Spider-man and Madame web found Mary Jane as he and MJ are watching things unfold together

[@tuvyamaeir4684]

Season 5 of the original show resolved your first question.

[@CorbCorbin]

Nimrod and Cable gave time travel capabilities, so I figured the explosion was of Bastion trying to do this, or it just being triggered when destroyed. I mean, why else absorb Cable’s arm, other than for the tech?

[@richardslammer7574]

For some people who might be confused I'm going to reiterate here what I originally wrote on Twitter/x. Just because we saw Peter Parker and Mary Jane together in that 1 cameo, Remember that the title of the show is X men 97 and the original 90 spider man ended in 98. Therefore the big reveal of that not being Mary Jane and instead just a clone hasn't happened yet. Peter has yet to go off and find the real Mary Jane. At least under the theory that the animated x-men universe And the spider man animated universe share the same continuity.

[@ImnotMattMurdock]

Just to lyk, Beau DeMayo did confirm that Peter found MJ, and that's her.

[@spinningtornado4543]

As much as I appreciate your take on it, the truth is much simpler than that : The show is anachronistic to a fault. From the cameos of characters created post 2000s to story elements from that same time frame, the show picks and chooses what it wants to adapt and lore it wants to keep regardless of how many comic elements are skipped that are required for it to happen. Same with the Peter and MJ situation, the show wanted a meaningless cameo.

[@Brandonweifu]

​@ImnotMattMurdock cool The OG writer can come back with spiderman 98 and say "f that"

[@ImnotMattMurdock]

@@Brandonweifu Sure, but as far as anyone need be concerned now, that's the real MJ. Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just informing here.

[@ImnotMattMurdock]

@@spinningtornado4543 I'd say it was pretty meaningful to see the real MJ back after 30 years. If this show and those cameos are what it takes to get a revival of the show, idk why we're complaining. We can still get episodes showing us how it happened. Fiction is surprisingly more malleable than reality.

[@jwchampagne1]

How does Jubilee survive direct exposure to the vacuum and cold of space? Force powers, of course.

[@mlmaronilla]

just hope disney changes their minds and gets Beau back. Bring him back. have him work on other shows too.

[@steveb9713]

I would’ve liked to see the avengers actually saving many innocent lives during magnetos world power outage, or maybe they use this to set up avengers vs xmen

[@iambutter2784]

Can i get your thoughts on the fact we see Peter found Mj?

[@dubuyajay9964]

03:10. Well, if I remember correctly, the original "Fatal Attractions" Comic Arc was Magneto stealing a bunch of nukes and putting them in orbit around the Earth to force the governments of mankind to surrender to him, not messing with the magnetic fields. 10:42. Also annoys me as both the Avengers AND SHIELD were VERY active in the "Fatal Attractions" arc. Especially since Scarlet Witch AND Quicksilver were Magneto's children AND members of the Avengers.

[@Jonkin715]

Right?! I was like, "Where in the blue HELL are the Avengers?!?!".

[@vanquese8947]

They don't exist yet

[@dubuyajay9964]

@vanquese8947 Yes they did, they showed up in 90's Spider Man Animated "Secret Wars" arc.