X Transbots Aegis Vs Fanstoys Outrider

[@Ryekenhoshin23]

Yeah, that Deformation Space is far superior! /nods

[@thugg4lif]

I’ve been saying this for years deformation space is a true contender to replace fanstoys. Now if they can pull off the hoist

[@Nyarlahotep]

Whenever this happens in a BSF video, which is quite often, I always feel like I'm about to have a stroke

[@ARMRStudios]

To me the Fans Toys figure almost looks like a non transforming figure. It looks crazy awesome

[@TransformsIntoAGuitar]

I'd never have guess Deformation Space would win anything in this.

[@Dokken1975]

I really think Xtransbots did a pretty damn good job on their Trailbreaker. Especially the 2nd version. I’m gonna keep that version as well.

[@MisaelCastilloBrenes]

I also prefer the FT's for the reasons you mentioned... it looks more heroic, less childish. They were able to make a not so great looking character into an interesting, heroic, good looking figure. Is like the Jetfire situation... Phoenix has an amazing but updated design, and Takara's will look cartoon accurate, which is not a compliment in terms of aesthetics (at least personally speaking).

[@chadwebb1345]

FT losing isn’t a condemnation of FT. The FT figure is good, this is simply a testament to improvements in XTB products. Are they where they need to be? No. Have they made incremental improvements of a long span of time? Yes. This is a win for the collectors.

[@capencowl]

We’ll said!

[@DamageInc86]

If xtb just had that darker windshield. That would be nice. Maybe a sticker? In any event, im definitely getting the xtb version. I like stuff like the 4wd being there, because im into the vehicles that these characters are, so to me that is always fun to see.

[@joey159213]

Glad you review 3zero! Thanks for doing it!

[@richardsugai55]

I enjoy watching the verses a lot. I have switched out a lot of my figures based on these, however I am going to stick with the XTB. I am happy with that purchase, and like you tell us all the time, "If you're happy, you win."

[@Sithfire30Creations]

Was going to sell my XTB version until I saw this comparison. Great points for each but yea, sometimes I can be blinded by "the brand".

[@BlackHoleAtron]

Anyone else notice the voice-over description of the totals doesn't match the information shown on the graph?

[@harryfromwork]

FT all the way

[@Faxie83]

If I didn't have a TB, I would go for the FT. Though, I already have the XTB, and the FT isn't better enough to double dip or swap for me. I also like the XTB altmode better. I agree on the transformations, they have gotten a lot better. Enjoyable even.

[@PSYCHOWORLD]

FT version is better trust me just buy it and get back to me. I had the same thoughts until I pulled the trigger on Outrider. FT is just on another level. XTB version looks and feels like a hasbro figure compared once you have both in hand…

[@Faxie83]

@@PSYCHOWORLD I have plenty of FT figures, I know how they feel. But I'm not gonna buy multiple versions of the same character when I already have one that I'm happy with. For what's it worth, I got the FT Beachcomber even though I already had the XTB.

[@beatrixwickson8477]

Well, I'm pretty happy with my XTB and I usually have it in alt mode. But if money was no object I'd grab the FT for bot mode. But Trailbreaker for me is basically there to fill out the crowd, so I don't see it happening. As always, your reviews are appreciated. Got to admit I like the family's contribution regardless of how informative it is or isn't. And geez, what's up with people hating on non-transforming display pieces? Like, I don't collect them and I might not watch every review but if I saw the right one, I'd get it. Anyone else can enjoy them. Because we're all allowed to like what we like.

[@RobbieHaydtLMAO]

This pretty much put the nail in the coffin on my thoughts on this. I've been happy with my Aegis+. I do like most of the aesthetic differences on Outrider, but I don't like them enough to pay $190 for it and sell my Aegis for MAYBE $100. I feel the same way about XTB's Springer and Ultra Magnus. The only bot that I REALLY wanna replacement for at this point is Windcharger. I will say, I think the XTB vs Fanstoys Hoist is gonna be a much different game though.

[@PSYCHOWORLD]

FT outrider is just on another level it’s something you have to have in hand like most FT products. XTB feels like a kids toy in comparison and in regards to looks man the proportions on FT just look better in every way. I am a fan of XTB but it’s no contest I feel like this Vs is not showing just how amazing outrider is. A lot of FT latest releases are highly underrated. They just feel so much more premium it’s hard to explain…

[@johngavin1175]

@@Scro10m People like XTB. You'll get over it. I say that as someone whose 3p figs are mostly FT. Bobby tells it like it is.

[@PSYCHOWORLD]

@@johngavin1175 nah FT still is better

[@jasonreyes1342]

I really dig the FT version, but it's not enough to replace my MMC one. Thank you for the comparison, Bobby.

[@ianfortier6796]

@Jason Reyes I feel the same as you. I like the look of FT but the 4 MMC versions, Hoist included, are the pinnacle for me. The heroic design plus the look of the lower legs are home runs on these figures.

[@youmongrel]

I think XTB should win for the lone fact they didn't release a teaser to stall the market, then take FIVE YEARS to actually put out the product. Same thing they’re doing with Blitzwing. A-holes.

[@ryantheregularravensfan8151]

This versus video is exactly why these types of videos are necessary imo...when I see the older XTB figure by itself I thought Outrider was light years better looking at them separately which is why I got it & I LOVE IT...but seeing them side by side shows me how close they are...this goes back to my opinion on Tesla 2.0 in that I feel like a more expensive figure should be better but XTB gives us decent figures for the price point...I think a collection with XTB, FT, MMC, & Takara figures mixed is more interesting than being a slave to 1 company...& U can throw in any other company as well...as long as the figures aren't str8 trash it's ok...I want a mostly toon esthetic display but I also want to explain my collection as well...I jus hope as a community we can learn to support all the companies to keep their healthy competition so they all give us great figures to collect & display...thanks for the versus Mr. Skull Face lol

[@voodoo9449]

I love the look on FT especially cleaning up the chest and hiding the tires. BUT the shield generator.... IT"S DRIVING ME NUTS Maybe there is a way to mod it. The shortness of the arm cannon bugs me a bit too. If takara (the only other one that hides the tires in the chest) had one that was not the toon muted black and a darker black... I'd consider it, but ultimately as everything is I think Fanstoys just hits the look I prefer as well. Damn that shield generator is making me twitch though!!!

[@DragoonMS]

Assuming that the eventual Takara Hoist gets his own number instead of "MP56+", I'd guess that MP56+ would be a toy styled Trailbreaker, with the jet black coloring, a toy accurate head, etc.

[@AngelRivera-wc7kt]

Voodoo I totally agree with this shield generator, it’s not supposed to ame at the back of his head it should be moved more to the right. I would have preferred detachable ones at this point, like you, both the shoulders cannon and shield are also driving me nuts. 🤬🤪

[@rayneoftera]

Deformation space at 8:08?

[@bobagorof]

Obviously reused the slide and audio

[@Wymorence]

Honestly if I do go for the XTB version there's a high chance I'll grab the reprolabels CSW kit they have for their Hoist because they're identical in size.

[@bigwangjohnson]

100% agree on the comments about XTB transformations. It’s just miserable on many of their figures.

[@THEWATCHERISLOOKING]

I waited this long to get it. Can’t wait.

[@lowellmartens6135]

XTB should put out accessory packs.

[@PaulSpurgeon]

I prefer the paint on the FansToys, which is a huge factor in presentation.

[@coris3436]

X transbots over fanstoys for this character? Stop bro

[@capencowl]

Fair result, though I agree with you that I like fans toys better. Similar to the sea spray vs in that xtb won but in that case but I prefer the xtbs heroic deviation and paint, whereas in this case I prefer fans toys heroic look and paint over cartoon accuracy in look. I think these are good examples of how to slightly deviate from the toon look to make better figures however I may be in the minority as most want as toon as possible. The only things I think are weak in fans toys is the truck look and the force field weapons placement to close to being behind the head. Looking forward to a vs with takara trailbreaker.

[@jonnymj]

Hey Bobby, I was wondering if you ever thought about scoring these VS like a boxing or MMA fight? Give 1 point for a narrow edge for a category or 2 if one is way better than the other? Or would that just throw off the consistency of these VS videos historically?

[@chriskiefer7493]

Deformation Space?

[@Maxshade7]

Thanks for doing this. It was really helpful!

[@cannonp1]

Have you considered adjusting for inflation for price?

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Yes but not when they’re both available. I went by their current prices

[@ih8study]

I was only half paying attention, why is deformation space mentioned at 8:30?

[@JohnSmith-fq8kz]

This comment section doing some serious coping for FansToys The HARD TRUTH is, if Outrider WASN'T labeled FansToys a lot of ppl will rip it for being too clean and simplistic 🤓

[@michaelbird]

From the beginning of the rise of 3P MP, the argument has been better toy vs cartoon accuracy. Maybe the problem has always been that stylization from cartoons is better left in animation. The lack of slavish adherence to toon accuracy is actually why people prefer them. It’s not a bug. It’s a feature.

[@sssspider]

I will never understand the slavish adherence to toon accuracy. MP-36 looks good precisely because he doesn’t actually have cartoon Megatron’s face and proportions.

[@johngavin1175]

I personally like the FT bot mode,but the XTB alt mode. Good versus man. Also watched TMReviews versus as well.

[@iamtheomnimonkey]

Very fair. Once again you demonstrate that what makes 1 figure better over another depends on which categories matter to you. Great job!

[@zilvertron]

From the side X-transbots Trailbreaker`s head looks like Hound and Fanstoys version looks like Kup

[@mistagoat6713]

Your graphics are all messed up homie. Both the middle and the end comparison graphics.

[@Th3Treasoner]

I love it, your comment on the ThreeZero/Flame Toys stuff is spot on. I'm not one bothered by non-transforming Transformers (Flame Toys model kits are fantastic, and I had the willpower to save up for stuff like their Tarn), to me the "transformation" is often a hindrance than a benefit. But if it does bug you then... go buy some transforming robots instead of being mad at people who enjoy ones that don't?

[@RoaddogRoaddog]

Well, never picked up a Trailbreaker but just recently purchased FT version. Looking good so far and can’t wait to add to the collection

[@Oheretic]

It’s not the Deformation Space snafu that was confusing, Bob, its the graphic at the end that gives each bot 4 ticks a piece and doesn’t show what XTB got as number 5! Touch of the sun buddy?😉

[@MisaelCastilloBrenes]

I think that part was just merged in the video, but then the next segment is precisely about those items for the Trailbreakers... so I think we can just ignore the mistake (didn't affect the score).

[@klinikle5445]

I'm confused!

[@rickytoddbotelho9555]

Fans toys across the board😛

[@aarongrove4744]

Great VS Bobby! im glad i collect both modes.. ill keep Xtransbots in truck mode and FT will be BOT.. replacing my BC version!

[@schlitzy-1031]

I'll take heroic updated designs over toon accuracy for any character every single time. Thanks for the comparison!

[@roosjen]

Thanks again for a great comparison, Bobby! Sorry to see your graphics are so muddled this time, you seem to not have overwritten the old slides properly. My speed viewing and skipping to the interesting bits really isn’t helped by that :/ (I speed view because I still find MP figures interesting even though I only own Legends nowadays)

[@1liono]

Wish all youtubers can be honest like you and not just trying to be a fanstoys fanboy (cough TMReviews ). I thought Xtransbots did a good Trailbreaker I have a X- Transbot Aegis toon version, I will wait for MP Takara Tomy Trailbreaker. Great review sir

[@jameslane6311]

I'm not seeing 5 to 4. I see a tie. Did I miss something? I know you missed a line for a tie and had the little Deformation Space uh oh, but where did the 5th point come in?

[@cameronmoriarty3313]

I don't say this very often, but I just felt like this was a time to thank you for the videos you put out.

[@cameronmoriarty3313]

And I don't expect a reply, I can't imagine a reason for him to do so even if I was a patreon backer. It's not like I could afford to back everyone who I follow and I'm satisfied with my choices. That is no reason not to express my gratitude when the feeling strikes me though.

[@Dinosaur_News_Center]

Am I insane or does the chart actually show a 4/4 tie? Yet Bobby is saying 5/4 XTB. Where did the extra point come from?

[@UberNoodle]

Regarding non-transforming figures Transformers. I collect a lot of action figures as well as Transformers, so I have lots of action figures of DC characters as well as scale figures of DC characters. But I've never thought, that the scale figures were less because they're not posable. They are a representation of the character, and that's why I love them. Should action characters be able to "action"? I guess you could say that, but I don't need to be able to pose them. It's the same with non-transformable representations of Transformer characters. Just like the scale figures, I buy them for a representation of the character.

[@Dreadhawk]

I bought XTB and Fans Toys Preceptor and at the end of the day I feel I would have been happy with the just the cheaper XTB. I have XTB's Trailbreaker and Hoist with the Fans Toys on preorder. I was really worried that I was going to have the same regret. But putting those two figures together I prefer every aesthetic choice Fan Toys has made. This is one decision I don't think I am going to have any second thoughts on. In fact, I am positive if I didn't have the FT on order, I'd either come to regret it or be paying more to get it. Thanks for the work BSF.

[@michaeldort7069]

The black paint on the fans toys looks soooooooo much better. Period. And the Chrome looks way better as well

[@bobagorof]

I agree. I preferred the original XTB black deco rather than the slightly purple toon deco.

[@Alex876]

again i wish there was a way to combine the two to make one perfect

[@2006chunming]

That's a nice hoody!

[@existentialismtyrant5722]

Ft had more time. Xtb has been out for a while. It’s not enough for me to swap. I like the ft too but comes down to budget. I don’t need two trailbreaker mp

[@chikex]

For a long time I had Ocular Max as my Hoist and X-Transbots as my Trailblazer, but the X-transbots just always looked...a bit off to me. So I put the payment on the Fanstoys, sold the X-Transbots and Ocular Max, bought the Xtransbots Hoist (which actually looks better as Hoist), and bought the yellow Ocular Max Trailblazer (who I put in Hulk Hogan poses). I should be getting my Fanstoys soon, and hopefully everything should be as it should be...

[@pandaboy355]

Man, I just can't agree with this review. I've got both these guys in front of me, and just about every comparison in this video is misleading. That leg comparison in particular is embarrassing. XTB is double jointed, sure, but not in a healthy way. Show the entire process for bending both those legs back and forth and then tell me XTB is "better". And you seriously praised XTB's feet over FT's? The ankle tilt is nearly identical, but the difference in look and finish of the 2 mechanisms is night and day. I know you've gotten flack in the past for being a Fanstoys fanboy, but lately you seem to have become an XTB apologist. Like whatever you like, but I really don't think this was a fair comparison.

[@Jetblast01]

There's pros and cons to both. I def love the look of the FT. XT has it looking pretty good in some areas being cartoon accurate, things that if FT did like the weapons/head sculpt, would take it far.

[@ObsChevyTony]

Let’s go Xtransbots!! Personally I’m going with Xtransbots for the scale, accessories, and toon accuracy

[@thugg4lif]

Let me guess xbots wins by a nose

[@thugg4lif]

I called it 🤘🏽

[@hq9344]

@@Scro10m been watching for years…i actually really look forward to his opinion on these matters besides, everyone knows Bobby likes his FT. He doesn’t keep that a secret. I thought it was a fair VS. i have ft and XTB. All a matter of opinion anyway.

[@mickholohan4266]

here here on the non transforming transformers comment chief

[@mark4flair376]

Bobby "I see an XTB box art contract in your future" Face!

[@BingBong67489]

I think they should've at least tied in terms of accuracy. What FT loses with its heroic proportions, it more than makes up for by being more clean. The toon didn't have kibble on the sides of the legs, for instance.

[@roguedeathangel]

Unsurprising that Bobby gives the hips to Fanstoys (so to speak)

[@jamesowens9944]

Kind of amazed the robot pasties on Outrider don't seem to bother anyone.

[@Ianorig]

I expected a mix-up with KFC, but Deformation Space is a surprise.

[@jon-580]

Reusing old footage... production quality is in the crapper these days...

[@rickV-zy6eh]

FT is only a marginal improvement, X Transbots is good enough for me.

[@PSYCHOWORLD]

FT just feels so much more premium to me it’s not even close because I’m a display guy

[@keyboardt8276]

Agreed, it looks like it belongs in the soul of chogokin series whereas xtb looks like a masterpiece (which isn't a bad thing but the masterpiece line is unfortunately less premium than soul of chogokin in general)

[@TabbyTimeOut]

Agreed. It's on another level. Fans Toys has gotten really good at the car bots.

[@PSYCHOWORLD]

@@keyboardt8276 interesting comparison but I agree

[@PSYCHOWORLD]

@@TabbyTimeOut exactly! It’s hard to tell until both are in hand it’s just on another level. XTB just looks and feels wonky as to FT feel absolutely amazing. I’m an XTB fan but I can’t understand why Bobby is only okay with outrider. I feel like tesla 2.0, chomp, rig and now outrider have been some of FT best releases and I have every single FT figure. Idk just my opinion…

[@THEShoky]

Three Zero got crumb tendencies.

[@traviswhite3399]

🤣 that’s the new “Bozo Tendencies”

[@superquad7]

Gotta admit, the FOMO is very real with me and FT figures no matter what.

[@THEShoky]

Deforma......look, he just got back from California.

[@MisterMeanerOU812]

Meh, the XTB aesthetics point more toward “toy”, and the Fanstoys aesthetic points toward “really nice collectible figure”. I think the review was fair as far as the the line goes. You’re right though, XTB is more toon accurate, and overall, that makes them second to Fanstoys in my book.

[@myflyisopen.8732]

I just want a toy accurate head. The toon head is very ugly on the XT and not as bad on the FT.

[@myok99]

Why can't more companies do the hips that are on fans toys trailbreaker. I hate the hip skirts

[@fredb3143]

I think X-Transbots looks like Popeye. I just don’t like the forearm

[@brenoferreiraferreira4409]

I don't agree with some categories and with the end result. Accessories- XTB Gimmicks- Tie Build- Tie Materials- Tie Hardware- FT Articulation- FT Sculpt- FT Paint-Tie Scale- XTB Transformation- FT Alt Mode- FT Presence- FT Price- XTB Accuracy- FT XTB- 3 FT- 7 I agree that the FT may be better articulated even though both are not that good. Is the XTB able to peck deck? Because the FT one can't and, in my opinion, every blaster holding character needs to be able to peck deck or it will hinder his ability to be posed while shooting the blaster. In my opinion everything on the Fans Toys looks better, specially the lower legs. The FT alt mode looks more accurate and I like it better. Besides the colors on the shoulder canon and the fist blaster I think the FT is more accurate then the XTB even though none got the chest and head right. Thanks for the comparison Mr. Skullface. P.S. Please don't take this the wrong way, I watch every one of your videos and I comment on all of them so you know I like what you do and I take your opinion into consideration but there were some small mistakes on the video regarding the charts. We can ignore them and focus on what you were saying but maybe you would prefer them to be right, I know I would if I was in your place.

[@JasonSawyer]

The XTB arms look dumb to me. Too thick and the hands are so off centered! That just looks really weird. Also, maybe they both use a lot of paint, I think FT uses far better looking and feeling paint. The red on XTB knees particularly looked sloppy. Oh, and no hip skirts is a huge win for FT for me.

[@michaelharris7445]

Ummmm,....Deformation Space?.. Trump called and said he wants a re-count! Lol

[@AngelRivera-wc7kt]

Yeah I agree with this, I love the FansToys but that XTB was a good contender. Awesome VS sir lol. 🫡

[@AngelRivera-wc7kt]

Well done sir lol. I thought the same thing, XTB is more on the money but do prefer FansToys. 👍🏽🫡🫡