X4 Foundations: 7.5 Beta 6 - Destroyers behavior versus defence stations working as intended

[@ohlala5681]

Happy to see it's going in the right direction!

[@Dexter01992]

I'm so glad they finally programmed destroyers the right way. What was infuriating was to see the AI ships of other factions correctly placing themselves outside of a station range to bomb them safely, but then your own ships would banzai close range into xenon station main batteries mouths to get destroyed in seconds. I'm glad they finally made this consistent without needing tedious manual placing. Next step would be fighters doing attack runs on large ships sub targets without comically smashing themselves onto its hull, only to get destroyed a couple of seconds later.

[@CptSnuggles07]

Very nice! Looked pretty clean even by 7.1 standards.

[@ragnos28]

Personally, I'm satisfied, as later I took the gang to siege a SPP and things went well, uploading the clip as we speak. But now, some player report that some destroyers will not approach the distance close enough to enter firing range...well, even they are happy that destroyers no longer "banzai" the stations. 😋I actually encountered that myself, with some destroyers, but like the others said, no "banzai", I'm happy. 😁 Btw, did you see the "travel arc" difference between M ships and S ship when tracking the xenon K after 20:33 ?

[@CptSnuggles07]

@ragnos28 That’s a very wide curve on those Ms. I thought they were turning tighter in the previous betas, but I didn't measure them like I did with the capitals.

[@ragnos28]

@@CptSnuggles07 At least we now know that if we need to deal with a "rogue" xenon K or I that want to travel drive in the middle of our fleet, we are better off sending S bombers. Another nugget of knowledge obtained, to add on a "how to" clip. 😋

[@floundericiouswa5694]

Omg. Standoff confirmed

[@Koshea69]

You are telling me not one destroyer flew through station firing lanes and all it took was a simple attack command. This is not the X4 I know

[@ragnos28]

Actually, this is consistent with 7.1 behavior. It was just a bit if struggle to bring that to 7.5 as well.

[@egoaut]

Cant await until the next DLC will be released. Then i will start a new playthrough and park my Xshuttle on the Hyperion to conquer the new enhanced XUniverse😂

[@ragnos28]

I very much like the idea of DLCs that provide just the new ships, w/o having to deal with other things that I have no interest in. Like having to deal with the VIG, the ugly new sectors, the broken solar eruptions mechanics in Avarice, when only Astrid would have hold some interest for me. I would had bought ToA if it would have come JUST with the Astrid. So, I like this concept of mini DLC just for the ships..easier for devs to make, greater chance for me to buy. 🤑

[@egoaut]

​@@ragnos28, na, there must be "more". I dont pay just for a ship, i want bigger, better and more storys. I realy like TOA and "ugly" ships, asymetric reminds me to fractals, the more you look at them the more i like it.❤

[@ragnos28]

@@egoaut Then you will not pay for the Hyperion DLC? 😏 More for me then, I'm eager to spend the money saved by skipping ToA and Timelines, for some fine ships. 🤑😁

[@T-Skillet]

I’ll say I enjoyed them both, Timelines and ToA. Think the solar flare mechanic is a tad extra. Especially for the little time you are there. Timelines was just something super different, I enjoyed watching other people be able to outfly me…. Stupid ranking systems… not bitter I promise…. Okay I lied, I’m bitter. Lol

[@sieda666]

@@ragnos28 VIG sucks and I wish Egosoft would put a lower cap on their numbers, however the only DLC I don't think is worth getting is timelines and even then I like everything added with the exception of the racing ships and having to grind through the separate missions mode (lol, the majority of the DLC... get it on a steep sale if you ever do). But once you get through it the new faction and sectors are interesting and the new (old?) ships are also very cool. I've never heard or experienced anything "broken" about the solar eruptions that happen in Avarice but it's also true that I don't spent much time there outside of doing that questline to get to leap of faith and the Astrid yacht. I dig that plot though and even if it is annoying to deal with VIG spam at the end of it, it's also a bit cathartic and gives my fleets a chance to engage in a real war outside of fighting the Xenon. It's tough to outright recommend either one, especially not knowing which aspects of those DLC you would personally enjoy. However, I am ultimately glad to have everything added to the sandbox that they offer, even if it's not as good as the Terran, Boron, or Split dlcs.

[@insanelystuart6764]

There seems to be a new type of drone added this time "Station Security Vessels". Any thoughts on these? I can't seem to see an entry for these on the patch list in the forums

[@ragnos28]

I would not know about it, drones are not exactly a point of interest for me. 🤔

[@shenjingbing2293]

I noticed that in beta 5, maybe it was introduced in earlier patch

[@rawrmcsaurs6052]

they have always been in the game and would use lasers to kill the player character if you are found with contraband when trying to "hack" for station bluprints

[@insanelystuart6764]

@ You couldn't buy them before for your ship though, no you can.

[@bzktest6666]

its the tiny ship police

[@jamescopeland6802]

what i want most is some xl size traders. At the very least the teladi trade company should have them and sell blueprints for them.

[@ragnos28]

I've seen this request on ES forums before. Personally, I don't mind the size/capacity of L traders, economy is something that happen in the background for me anyway.

[@jamescopeland6802]

@@ragnos28 Some xl warships have better capacity then some large traders if i am not mistaken, which essentialy makes those warships both better traders and more well defended then them.

[@ragnos28]

@@jamescopeland6802 Is that not the case only for the ToA Barbarossa? 🤔 Only the Asgard and the Erlking are battleships in X4, Asgard I don't remember having such a big cargo hull, the Erlking is unique, just one per game, carriers also have small inventory, as I recall, aux ships are crazy slow. 🤔

[@jamescopeland6802]

@@ragnos28 I think i remember most of my carriers having better cargo and since they have so many turrets i consider them warships.

[@ragnos28]

@@jamescopeland6802 Numbers, I want numbers...🤪 Did some in game checking: Tokyo carrier - 22.000 storage Okinawa L transporter - 42.000 storage Colossus carrier - 19.000 storage Incarcatura L transporter - 45.000 storage Shuyaku L transporter - 37.000 storage Yeah...I don't think I will replace my L transporters with carriers any time soon. 🧐