X4 Foundations: Which Fighter is Right for You Guide

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JK Ninja

JK Ninja

Күн бұрын

As of 4.20 there are 26 small fighter craft to choose from. Whether a fighter or heavy fighter it may be difficult to choose which is best. This X4 Foundations guide will go over all currently available fighters and heavy fighters and compare them against each other to help to determine which is best for you.
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0:00 Intro
1:48 Argon
3:33 Paranid
5:15 Teladi
6:32 Split
9:14 Terran
11:14 Alliance of the Word
12:02 Yaki
12:57 Fly Safe! o7
Closed Captions available.
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X4: Foundations is the latest title in the popular X series of space simulation / sandbox games, played as action games from a first-person perspective in a living breathing universe, with TRADE FIGHT BUILD THINK as the common tag-line. X4: Foundations is unique in its depth, simulating an entire universe of NPC ships and stations, forming a realistic economy. It consists of a huge universe, simulated from the bottom up. Hundreds of stations, and thousands of ships, trade goods among themselves. Prices change based on supply and demand; resources are mined and processed in several stages. This economy is linked directly to the simulation of major conflicts in a universe with dynamically-acting factions. Every player decision can dramatically change the future of the game universe. Step in and live your very own space adventure!
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@rudolfp2885
@rudolfp2885 2 жыл бұрын
I love love love how you get to the content and point very much when video starts. No “welcome, exciting, subscribe, sponsors” 2-3 min padding fluff
@TheTwober
@TheTwober Жыл бұрын
He's basically padding the video with content, which seems fine by me. :D
@jdavidaiken
@jdavidaiken Жыл бұрын
I would like this comment, but I can't bring myself to change the 69 likes it already has
@joperhop
@joperhop Жыл бұрын
"any ship can do any task if you build enough of them" . I like this.
@MegasXaos
@MegasXaos Жыл бұрын
"Quantity has a quality all its own". Love it! I like to say "Overkill is highly underrated". but yours is significantly more refined.
@DailyFrankPeter
@DailyFrankPeter 2 ай бұрын
Refined by multiple of historical figures believed to have said this first, like Stalin or Napoleon, but probably actually someone before that.
@pinaerpowac4130
@pinaerpowac4130 2 ай бұрын
Please continue with x4, This has got to be among the best kind of coverage I've seen of x4. It's about time we get better creators covering x4.
@brohvakiindova4452
@brohvakiindova4452 2 жыл бұрын
With the new expansion the Shih is now the undisputed best fighter in my opinion. 4 guns, 3 shields, really good speed and even better hull than the Ares. It's also ridiculously cheap for its stats. Also very important: The dock appears to be always stocked on building materials since the syndicate doesn't seem to have serious war going. It's both great OOS and IS.
@aeonise
@aeonise Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see an update with the Vigor and Boron ships. I've found the Shih to be a real sweet spot with its 4 guns, 3 shields, and decent enough speed. It's basically an Ares except faster than an Eclipse. Unfortunately, it's also ugly as sin.
@kajarslibrary5404
@kajarslibrary5404 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: The Quasar is actually two Discoverers welded together. I am most of the time just sitting in the Nodan - Travelling in style~
@sim.frischh9781
@sim.frischh9781 2 жыл бұрын
I still find it weird that the Scout ship is now the "Elite" while the previous scout, fittingly named the "Discoverer", is now a heavier fighter than the "Elite". Nodan for me as well, i happened to stumble over the AotW warft early while exploring the universe, switched to it and never looked back. While it´s not the best fighter for everything, it´s a formidable choice for the player. And the sight out of the cockpit is really great.
@Fanunic
@Fanunic 2 жыл бұрын
The Gladius is still my favorite fighter in terms of both stats and aesthetics -- I just love watching the wings unfold as 30 take off from a carrier
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I forgot to showcase that! Those wings folding definitely gives the Gladius extra cool points
@AbstractJJJ
@AbstractJJJ 2 жыл бұрын
See, at least in the confined space of the Tokyo, I always found the Gladius to be a bit awkward. Big wing span in the air, and while parked, the wings sticking up don't leave much space to those flying over them. But I guess that's just a player flying problem. AI don't care.
@rubenlopezusa
@rubenlopezusa 8 ай бұрын
Isn't it very slow?
@adamfellenbeck9289
@adamfellenbeck9289 2 жыл бұрын
As a relatively new player to X4 I've learned a lot from these videos. Thank you for that! I'm eagerly waiting for similar comparisons of the other ship classes. ;)
@rubenlopezusa
@rubenlopezusa 8 ай бұрын
Did you start straight or with tutorials? I just started and find hard to understand how the game works with so many details and aspects to care about. Some of the concepts, such mining and stuff are concepts I can only dream off. Just re-entering my ship after the space walk took me half an hour, lol, to figure out that I needed to ask for "permission". For example, I don't know what the hell is MK1, MK2, MK3...
@adamfellenbeck9289
@adamfellenbeck9289 8 ай бұрын
@@rubenlopezusa JK Ninja's videos were a big help but other than that it was mostly trial and error. And a lot of poking around in menus trying to find stuff. 🙂
@rubenlopezusa
@rubenlopezusa 8 ай бұрын
@@adamfellenbeck9289 thanks! I'll follow the advice. I guess it's ok to keep on despite having the sensation I know nothing to go out there in that universe. I'll learn part of it the hard way, lol, like every game
@Jcewazhere
@Jcewazhere 2 жыл бұрын
If brute force isn't working then you're not using enough of it.
@sim.frischh9781
@sim.frischh9781 2 жыл бұрын
Zaraki Kenpachi would be proud of you.
@vanorghyl5790
@vanorghyl5790 Жыл бұрын
Very informative as always. Thank you Ninja. 👍
@gabeux
@gabeux 2 жыл бұрын
As always, your videos are awesome. Great work!
@negativehp7653
@negativehp7653 2 жыл бұрын
Structured nicely. Thank you
@steveg7368
@steveg7368 2 жыл бұрын
Good comparison, it helps make choices much clearer. Like the way you present your guides, keep them coming.
@augustust2110
@augustust2110 2 жыл бұрын
You're killing it with your videos. keep up the excellent work!
@jj8898huu
@jj8898huu Жыл бұрын
Straight to the point and no needless fluff. Good video and channel. Subbed
@Kalknight382
@Kalknight382 Жыл бұрын
Nice Video!
@alexwalker8082
@alexwalker8082 8 ай бұрын
I think I've gone through at least 10 of your videos back to back. Love the clean and concise presentation with a great voiceover!
@greybadger3142
@greybadger3142 2 жыл бұрын
Terrific video, great enthusiasm. I’ve been playing since the original was released and the series has “almost” always been one of my favourites. I have long down periods though and my swiss cheese brain can never retain the important bits I need. So I always need to find a guide to put me back out in the black. I’ve subscribed today and I’m off now to see what other treasure you have here. :)
@FatalKeks
@FatalKeks 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again :) Very well made. I would love to see similar videos for the other ship classes. Also you convinced me to only build/buy Elite Vanguards - to see them burn.
@juan.salvarado8302
@juan.salvarado8302 4 ай бұрын
awesome video
@CuriousMind477
@CuriousMind477 4 ай бұрын
I love the comparison videos you make. I am relatively new to the game, and your videos are always clear and easily digestible. A++
@javid.huseyn
@javid.huseyn 2 жыл бұрын
you definitely changed my view of nova with that sentiment in the end lol loving your content
@dethoza
@dethoza 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate these videos. I hope you are having fun with making them!
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
I do, glad you like them!
@gerry919
@gerry919 2 жыл бұрын
thx for an other very well made Video. I wish you the best and hope for way more subs for your channel! P.s. I really like the Nodan!
@StellariumSound
@StellariumSound 9 ай бұрын
I've love to see you come back to this game with the new expansion.
@gufbrindleback
@gufbrindleback 2 жыл бұрын
Kha'ak Knockers are never out of style! One other thing to keep in mind if you're picking a commander fighter - some weapons are pretty flashy. Having them tucked out of the way behind hull elements or farther from the canopy can make a lot of difference.
@hunter7588
@hunter7588 12 күн бұрын
I love how detailled you explain everything! Thank you so much for that! Can you also add the Boron ships in comparison?
@ozguratlasaltunsay4648
@ozguratlasaltunsay4648 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome edits and clean presentation. You are the best content creator in the X community. Please keep up the good work
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@tax1643
@tax1643 Жыл бұрын
Thumbs-up for the calming voice. The fighter data was interesting too, but I think you forgot to include the Boron ships..... xD
@Akideoni
@Akideoni Жыл бұрын
Great work! I just restarted another gameplay I runs a bunch o Moreya 120 Raptor or 50 Tokyo with a pair of blast mortars and thermal disintegrators with mk 4 split combat. It fair better OOS, IS however does suffer more damage due to post boost shield drain.
@polarisproject1568
@polarisproject1568 2 жыл бұрын
Great job! Can't wait for the medium combat ship comparison.
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
Its coming soon!
@bozzb.1451
@bozzb.1451 2 жыл бұрын
1400 hours in and I did not even know some of those ships exist xD Good video !
@RevengA4
@RevengA4 2 жыл бұрын
I was missing some comments on the shield slots on some ships. Because they are your only life insurance to boost out of combat. I like the argon eclipse very much as a starter ship because it’s so well rounded with 4 guns and 2 shields. Best personal fighter would be the Ares with its 3 shields and a 4 guns. It’s just quite slow… However I think with the new DLC tides of avarice the award for the best fighter could go to the Vigor Syndicate Shih. It also has 4 guns, 3 shields and it’s also fast. So it’s simply the best fighter over all
@CaneMcKeyton
@CaneMcKeyton 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I found your channel! Ever since the Cradle of Humanity DLC came out I've been doing exclusively Terran runs so a suped up Gladius has been my fighter of choice. I've always just loved the Terran aesthetic since X3TC.
@-NB7979-
@-NB7979- 2 жыл бұрын
Actually Gladius is best heavy fighter among them, by the facts that they can exclusively use terran weapon.
@CaneMcKeyton
@CaneMcKeyton 2 жыл бұрын
Also best medium ships comparison next I'm guessing?
@-NB7979-
@-NB7979- 2 жыл бұрын
@@CaneMcKeyton Yeah he will do it on the next video, although from M class all win will clearly go to the Terran ships (Katana, Syn and Asgard)
@SpaceTrump
@SpaceTrump 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Split Ships, their colors and designs are my fav. I don't mind having to build hundreds of them to kill something... how else would people know you were somewhere unless you left a wake of corpses in your path?
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
Those Teladi Manticore pilots are going to love you 🤣
@Koshea69
@Koshea69 2 жыл бұрын
Yet again you impress, love your video's. Well researched, entertaining, the graphs do a good job comparing. I don't know if I would have completely done away with interceptors, the one's with 2 guns and are super cheap aren't exactly terrible at exactly the job you said the Takoba was good at for the Terrans, and the Teladi don't have a lot of options so throwing one of them away makes for sad lizards.
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
I consider the Takoba to be the best, but everyone has a craft capable of being an interceptor to some degree. Even the Teladi with their limited roster
@MBOmnis
@MBOmnis Жыл бұрын
Interesting that the Terran ships are almost all named after swords...
@nolgroth
@nolgroth Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Good that your focus is on fighters as carrier assets. I have yet to find or fly one that can tough out a fight with a typical Xenon M squadron. I'll stick with the Frigate or Corvette class ships for personal use. That said, I did have some success with a Teladi Buzzard. That third weapon mount gave it some versatility. Sadly, it's just too darn slow. I don't have any of the DLC yet.
@SphinxOfBlackQuartz
@SphinxOfBlackQuartz 2 жыл бұрын
I know the Pulsar isn't the most compelling fighter stat-wise, but I have a soft spot for it simply because I love the way it looks.
@Some1fromTheCrowd
@Some1fromTheCrowd Жыл бұрын
Pulsar all the way :)
@juan.salvarado8302
@juan.salvarado8302 3 ай бұрын
ive watched this video so many times
@schabowyBar
@schabowyBar 2 жыл бұрын
Squadron of 120+ Eclipse with Pulse lasers are my favorite Xenon K killer if you out of sector.
@AEsir2023
@AEsir2023 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant please do the M, L and XL classes
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
Planning on making those too!
@AEsir2023
@AEsir2023 2 жыл бұрын
@@JKNinja looking forward to it sir these videos are kinda keeping me going at this point.
@-NB7979-
@-NB7979- 2 жыл бұрын
Answer is simple on those class, Terran ship solo. They are simply better in almost every aspects then commonwealth primitive counterparts.
@conradolacerda
@conradolacerda 2 жыл бұрын
A video comparing actual battle results would be very interesting! For instance, how does the Nova's high maneuverability affect its combat performance compared to other "more powerful" fighters?
@HupfderFloh
@HupfderFloh 2 жыл бұрын
Proposed metric: Elite Vanguards destroyed per minute
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
I did try to make a competition video but it didn't work out. It may be the AI or the mod I had to use but all the results were skewed towards player own ships. Check out this video if you are interested in seeing what happened: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJLNqIV9ltKcfqc
@conradolacerda
@conradolacerda 2 жыл бұрын
@@JKNinja Bummer...
@evilangel72
@evilangel72 2 жыл бұрын
Can you just have both your ships be player owned an send them to fight each other like friendly fire. I think its a mark as hostile option
@conradolacerda
@conradolacerda 2 жыл бұрын
@@JKNinja Still, instead of pitting the different fighter classes against each other, could it be done by testing them against a standard enemy (e.g. elite vanguards) and then comparing the results? Just an idea...
@Jenny-eg3uh
@Jenny-eg3uh 2 жыл бұрын
DUDE! I'm having flashbacks to the n64 Rogue Squadron hangar right now! :D
@IronSquid501
@IronSquid501 Жыл бұрын
I like the Mamba for my fighters just because it's tough and looks cool. They're usually my first wave to start taking damage and lock enemies down, before Asps come in to deal some real damage and Chimeras and Balaurs punch through the line to bomb the enemy.
@evilangel72
@evilangel72 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video . You need to do a corvette an destroyers and carrier one
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
I'm working on a medium ship list but going to wait until 5.00 for the larger ships as I don't know fully what the changes will be yet
@evilangel72
@evilangel72 2 жыл бұрын
@@JKNinja can't wait. Already subscribed for the other videos
@biggreenthugs
@biggreenthugs 2 жыл бұрын
You remembered Alliance of the Word this time! :) For my personal fighters, I prefer speed and maneuverability over the rest. I have been favoring the Takoba recently as a personal craft. It's nice to see the stats in chart form. I wonder what your chart would look like and your opinion on the Mamba if it had a third weapon mount. I only bring it up because if you look at the model, it appears that there should be one there right in front of the shields in the gap but they removed it because it would unbalance the ship. The Balaur is my favorite heavy fighter to fly. It is 1 shield mount away from being perfect (IMO). The Nova is what I prefer to fly when stealing blueprints. I move the captain to the service roll so he's not in my way for the amount of times I have to go from captains chair to space suit and back. and the teleport panel is RIGHT THERE. Plus that high strafe speed :) As to the one I like to fly despite all indicators it may be terrible (and not on your list due to being a scout) is the Discoverer Vanguard. I think it's just the way it looks. I always wished there were two more guns at the ends of those "arms." The Kestrel Vanguard is what I use as a fighter/trader. Lots of cargo space for a fighter, and cheaper than a Nodan when you factor in engine costs. These are my go to for trading to build rep and they don't get harassed by the SCA/FAF. Pirates do not harass military ship unless you are piloting.
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
I did remember this time! A third gun on the Mamba would make it too strong, that may have originally planned it that way but then removed it after the design was finalized.
@Jdne199311
@Jdne199311 6 ай бұрын
i miss the Argon Nova of the X2 games, that that game, had beautiful ships.
@RottenCabbage
@RottenCabbage 2 жыл бұрын
Chimera with thermal disintgrator is a great pirate hobbler. Hang around Grand Exchange with a marine carrier or two, find the pirate phoenix and break all the parts. Then send in the troops. Easy early money.
@Drecksdusler
@Drecksdusler Жыл бұрын
Damage output is key for OOS fights and for that the Pulsar is a FANTASTIC fighter against capital ships. If you equip them with six Blast Mortars, ~12-14 Pulsars take down a Xenon K on their own without losses (even if there are some other Xenon fithers around). Their damage output is just so high. And on the style side they look amazing with those two 'bayonettes' at the front
@jacobliefeld9248
@jacobliefeld9248 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the kalis. The tankyness of 4 shields is fantastic, it’s not too slow (tho admittedly not particularly fast), and the lacking weapon hardpoints aren’t a problem if you mount meson streams in them.
@TwstedTV
@TwstedTV Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a few additional videos again, [S], [M], [L], [XL]....etc Like you did for this series. But this time, you measure them while using VRO mod. :) hehe Basically all the videos you have done for shields, missiles, weapons, S, M, L and XL ships but in a VRO scenario. :) So people can see the change and difference between vanilla and VRO.
@vgunner3705
@vgunner3705 11 ай бұрын
1:49 Nova 2:12 Eclipse 2:32 Pular 2:53 Quasar 3:35 Perseus 3:55 Theseus 4:20 Ares 5:16 Falcon 5:42 Buzzard 6:33 ASP Raider 7:02 Balaur 7:29 ASP 7:54 Mamba 8:19 Chimera 9:16 Kukri 9:47 Gladius 10:05 Kalis 10:30 Takoba 11:15 Nodan
@efxnews4776
@efxnews4776 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Takoba, is sleak, is sexy and is fast, especially if you put split engines on it, then that thing is only a match for Moreia. Although, the new ships of Tides of Avarice could be a match.
@CompleteIncompetenceGaming
@CompleteIncompetenceGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda accidentally got my hands on the Nodan Vanguard pretty early, as interceptors they are amazing, so much so that literally hundreds of hours later I've only ever had to replace a handful after large Xenon engagements.
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
They are surprisingly good without feeling overpowered, its a shame they are kind of hidden away
@wengaiden
@wengaiden 2 жыл бұрын
For me that video give me one only focus priority: speed+ slots guns. Forget shields or hulls
@josephciprianojr953
@josephciprianojr953 2 жыл бұрын
In discussing the Ares, you mentioned that weapons have a 100% hit chance out of sector. Found it amusing that the turrets on defense platforms seem to have the same behavior. if I'm OOS and watching via the map, my Hatikvah's Choice platform is one-shotting small and medium Xenon ships coming thru the gate - but if I'm in the sector, I guess the platform manager wants to give me a fireworks show; it takes at least 10 seconds to kill off a fighter - using every turret on the platform...
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
In OOS plasma is crazy unbalanced because of that 100% not rate. Egosoft keeps tweaking the OOS calculations but I cant think of a good way to do it without annihilating the CPU load
@pinaerpowac4130
@pinaerpowac4130 Жыл бұрын
A raptor filled with yaki morya is a terrifying concept.
@bartermens8219
@bartermens8219 5 ай бұрын
I wonder which army would win if you had 100 million. mk1 cheap ships or mk3 expensive ships or mid range ships. On the one hand you want the best of the best. But when you see the MK3 prices and you wonder, are trusters really worth 6 million on my Large ship. I go MK2 unless I fly em or built em myself. I like the Ares for Capital ship defence. The 6 gun ship can be equiped to immobilize large ships and board em afterwards with L Freigther. Discoverer looks good and is best at pirating S/M ships. PAR scout is mega fast best at start and I use for exploration later in game and equip mk1 pulse laser for lock boxes. Katana is also a very good scout/Attack vessel. By some cheap TEL S ship and dock em at place you want to teleport to to save time. Great vid!
@jamestaylor7226
@jamestaylor7226 7 ай бұрын
I decided to get back into a space sim & bought this game, hence I'm watching vid's before i get started, in x-3 I loved the mamba, I hope it's still viable this game.
@JeronimusJack
@JeronimusJack 11 ай бұрын
Quantity becomes a Quality -- Zapp Brannigen
@wmgthilgen
@wmgthilgen Жыл бұрын
Being mandated to using a controller, I find the Dargon Raider, fully modded with tao acelerators and flak turrets works the best.
@3333927
@3333927 2 жыл бұрын
I like the Moreya most, because it is so extremely fast and have a lot of firepower (4 gun slots), so that it's perfect for fast and quick attacks. And if you run out of shield, just boost away, reload your shields ans come back. You also should mod your shield recovery delay, so that it takes only about 3.5 seconds instead of about 12 seconds. With the Moreya you can even knock out all turrets of a defense station, if you hack them before. It is also possible to destroy a Xenon K, because it can't hit you. ^^
@raulmanuelsanchezcasado7756
@raulmanuelsanchezcasado7756 Жыл бұрын
I think you underestimated the combat capacities of the nova. It's so maneuverable that its actually quite effective at dogfights, specially agains targets that has relatively low or mild tracking weapons such as bolts, plasma, ion, muon etc It gets reck against heavier fighters with pulse, beams and maybe blast mortars
@thomasherzog2172
@thomasherzog2172 Жыл бұрын
to me speed is the most important value considered for the personal player ship. firepower doesnt keep you alive. if you fight 3-5 xenon at once they kill you on the long term. the ability to escape without booster is most important to me. i usually choose either the takoba, which has serious shielding, or the yaki moreya.
@sim.frischh9781
@sim.frischh9781 2 жыл бұрын
In the previous X games, the different race fighters also had one particularly significant property about them you completely left out in your video: the different sized cargo hold. For example, the Teladi, given their entrepreneurial nature, tend to have the largest luggage compartment, contrary to the microscopic one of Paranid fighters in which you can barely fit your purse. Your measurement does not take this into account at all because it does not matter for your playstyle. But in universe, that is an important factor.
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
Every video I release has bits removed in the final render to reduce time and increase flow. For the ship breakdowns one of them was cargo capacity. I apologize that an important aspect was removed but it didn't make the cut
@sim.frischh9781
@sim.frischh9781 2 жыл бұрын
@@JKNinja Ah, i though it was because of your play style. Given how you presented the use of fighters, you mostly seemed to use them as squadrons on a carrier, less for player use directly. Only on the Nodan you spoke about the boot size.
@CaneMcKeyton
@CaneMcKeyton 2 жыл бұрын
I would love a video on explaining the purpose of carriers as I often have a hard time justifying the cost. Like, what advantage does a squadron of fighters recieve from launching from a carrier as opposed to just flying by themselves? I know in real life, carriers extend the striking range of fighters but since fuel isn't a factor in the game its definitely not that. Wouldn't it be better to spend the money and resources on just buying more fighters or a few destroyers instead?
@TheTwober
@TheTwober Жыл бұрын
As soon as you start using fighters to attack stations and bigger targets you will learn that they are in need of frequent repairs and need their missiles refilled. Sending them back all the way to your home station takes a lot of time, so having a carrier around as a mobile base for refilling and repairs is very convenient.
@90snakeshit
@90snakeshit Жыл бұрын
It would be nice if the videos would have a sumup part in the end with a great overwie of all ships that the lazy users wouldn't have to skip through the whole video few times. But after all, it's a nice video and thanks for investing your time.
@fellpower
@fellpower 4 ай бұрын
Raptor -> Bomber Ares -> FUN!
@cmdrgogen3203
@cmdrgogen3203 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you. Unfortunately, much later in the game I just stopped using fighters, because everyone is packed with destroyers and battleships, so imho there's really no point in producing them. Except to land on something small when you can't use Teleport option. Also, I find it easier to track down fleets made of a few huge ships (with such defences that enemy small ships are no threat), than have numerous small squadrons. But guess it's all down to playstyle...
@markhackett2302
@markhackett2302 2 жыл бұрын
Depends. The Xenon produce a good mix so as long as you have THEM, then you NEED fighters, even OOS a swarm of unshielded Xenon drones can kill your destroyers if you don't Zerg Rush them back. In system, fighters are a huge problem for big ships. A lot of losses because with one shield, one hit could be a kill, but landing a hit is hard for a turret big enough to kill a fighter in one or two hits. If you have removed the Xenon, well, duh, the game IS easier. But the races don't build up a balanced fleet, and it is easier to kill destroyer vs destroyer, but that is what the flipping class is DESIGNED for. The cruiser/battleship (the K is definitely a cruiser, I would call the I a heavy cruiser, more than a battleship, because it only has the same weapons as its "destroyer" class Graviton gun) of the Xenon can take down a LOT of ships. Mostly because the graviton guns are turreted and far more powerful than even the main batteries of a destroyer. So, yeah, if you kill the Xenon you aren't left zerg rushing either destroyers to kill an I or K quickly (and an I will take a dozen destroyers out and survive, if barely) or a lot of fighters in-system because once you have killed the turrets, the I is an expensive hulk, you lose a lot of fighters, but you may kill an I with 40 fighters and lose half of them but you would lose half of a fleet of 20 destroyers that cost you three times as much. Of course those 20 destroyers would decimate any race.
@kajarslibrary5404
@kajarslibrary5404 2 жыл бұрын
Fighters are easily the most cost-effective "unit" by far. They will cost effectively beat anything and then some. Why should i spend 50 million credits on two Osakas when i get 100 fighters instead, which can easily destroy 10 Osakas and more. Once you reach a critical mass of 500+ fighters - which is only about 250-300 million credits - you have basically won the game. The same can not be said for having a number of destroyers for the same value.
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
Playstyle is a huge part on which ships you prefer. Nothing wrong with focusing on fewer bigger ships, going with a deathball swarm of fighters, or anything in between. Just remember that it is your game and to fly safe o7
@kajarslibrary5404
@kajarslibrary5404 2 жыл бұрын
@@JKNinja Indeed. I am just a little sad that capital ships are just so much less effective than in older titles. I miss having my Line Of Battle. :P
@any1alive
@any1alive Жыл бұрын
@@kajarslibrary5404 so by that logic, would it be better to build that one really slow ship which is great in the unloaded simulatored maths locations
@orhanmehmedov4588
@orhanmehmedov4588 2 жыл бұрын
goood mate goood :) i like this
@Rysdad1
@Rysdad1 Ай бұрын
Did you start a new channel or just stop doing videos or what happened? You are my favorite KZbinr
@faroebirde1375
@faroebirde1375 2 жыл бұрын
you make so fantastic giuds, any chance you wil start streaming or making playthroug videos? :)
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
right now I really like putting videos together, the editing process. I might do streams or playthroughs but have no plans at this moment
@Mrsoldier847
@Mrsoldier847 Жыл бұрын
The issue I have with fighters, especially S class, is in most of my campaigns, I beline straight to the Xenon bordering sectors. I also think there are a good number of people who also do this, due to the fact that if you don't contain the Xenon, especially at Hatickva's Choice, and doubly so for Split space, the Xenon turn into a death ball you really can't fight. But back on track, Fighters die faster than you can build them when fighting the Xenon, even with stations to fill in the economic holes in the various factions. If they get into a real death ball, especially in the Void or Second Contact, IE I've seen some Xenon fleets with an I and 9 or so Ks all tagging along a major escort of M and S class raiders, you really have no chance before the Xenon pop all the Argon/Antigone shipyards and maul the Teladi viciously.
@wmgthilgen
@wmgthilgen Жыл бұрын
Though for what it's worth. one will get a "Modified" listing. There is a mod, which introduces a new version to select, than the one's a vanila and the various DLC's have. It's available on Steam, I don't know if it is via Nexus. It introduces a new ship called the "DISGUISE". And it's own slightly different story line as all the DLC's do. If and when installed, it can be found below the lowest selection under the creative game mode. The ship is one of a kind and thus far, can not be nor does it need to be modified. Though a small ship. You get one when starting and there's no where to get another. It has the ability to carry hundred of items and crew. And it's weapon all six are the same, using all simotaniously can destroy entire asteroids, in a second, turning it to dust. It's pretty much a one shot destruction ship. It travels at normal speed in kilometer per second rather than meter's per second. Get board playing vanila, and wanna just fly around as if your GOD. Try it!
@SHOTbyGUN
@SHOTbyGUN 2 жыл бұрын
Love'd nova, if it takes damage it just zigs zags to infinity and beyond. Now that I have balaur, there just aren't any threats to my fighters. lah
@shayminthedoctor9663
@shayminthedoctor9663 Жыл бұрын
A quick note about the Nova to take into account It is the *only* fighter with vectored engines, giving it very high control in all directions except left and right. The AI seems to be very good at using this maneuverability, so while it may not be the best fighter in terms of raw stats, it can hold its own and is very well worth its (rather low) price tag All in all, not the best fighter, not the worst, but it is one of the best for its price
@LitlBlackDragonNinja
@LitlBlackDragonNinja Жыл бұрын
The Falcon has vector engines too.
@shayminthedoctor9663
@shayminthedoctor9663 Жыл бұрын
@@LitlBlackDragonNinja Huh, did not know that. I don't mess around with TEL ships much Unless it's for trade, of course
@planexshifter
@planexshifter 5 ай бұрын
The Falcon doesn’t get enough love.
@asgarzigel
@asgarzigel 2 жыл бұрын
"any ship can perform any task, if you build enough of them" Argon Elite: "Finally, my time has come!"
@Xyanider
@Xyanider 2 жыл бұрын
Do not forget, vanguard also have higher maneuverability, like rotation speed, acceleration, responsiveness and so on.
@markhackett2302
@markhackett2302 2 жыл бұрын
And cargo space doesn't matter to military craft that only does military things, because missiles et al are not part of the cargo. Some got into trouble buying a Paranid Pegasus scout because it used to have insufficient space to hold three antimatter cells, so they upped the amount, but it balanced the ships to an extent. You got a much faster Paranid military but no usable space, because the S class military had no space. So if you wanted space, you either went for a Disco (with two guns and 540 units of space), gunrunned with a Teladi Scout (one gun but near double the space, enough to trade with early game) or you got an S class trader with two guns. The single gun S trader was faster, usually, therefore reduced losses if it died, or most of the M class was wasted because all you needed was 500 units of cargo this run by AI manager, so speed was a factor more than capacity, when running.
@miccrhaafetl5101
@miccrhaafetl5101 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please talk about auxiliary ships, and there usage.
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
I'll probably save that video until 5.00 as right now I'm not sure how much Egosoft will change those big ships
@rubenlopezusa
@rubenlopezusa 8 ай бұрын
I just started playing X4. Everybody talks so much about this game... I love space and strategy games, but this one seems overwhelming now. I don't know if it is because I just came from playing Chorus, which is basically a combat game that requires amazing flying skills, but I found really hard to pursue and fire enemy ships with the gamepad, especially aiming at the target, as the controls shake a lot and the movement is very imprecise. I wonder if sensitivity has to do with it.
@ANGELA-bz9rn
@ANGELA-bz9rn 2 жыл бұрын
Hey JK Ninja , your videos are best , so i have two question and i will be very glad if you can help....what is the fastest and best way to explore/reckon whole new sector if i want find all stations and put satelites near them ? And can i rely solely on my npc pilots doing this job or better if i go there personaly and use long range scanner because npc cannot use them ? or i'm missing something and they can use LRS somehow ? If somebody else want to answer this question fell free....
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
Doing it yourself is the fastest way. NPCs laying satellites is fine, but having them explore a sector to find all the stations will normally take a long time
@wengaiden
@wengaiden 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video of how setting the game for fleet autorepair during combat on auxiliary ship automaticatlly? Thanks a lot
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
I'm planning on releasing a video like that after 5.00. At this point I'm still not sure how much will change in regards to the larger ships
@DracoFroggo
@DracoFroggo 2 жыл бұрын
me, never having played a single X game and randomly getting recommended this video: "hm yes, I see..."
@user-xj6nv3mv1e
@user-xj6nv3mv1e 2 жыл бұрын
Morea is very very good!
@XelexMirror
@XelexMirror 2 жыл бұрын
And completely imbalanced. Heavy fighter's firepower, fighter's armor, scout's speed. And all of this while having only two engines (against Pegasus' three)! Oh, and a universal storage, to add insult to injury.
@KenshinPhoenix
@KenshinPhoenix Жыл бұрын
I love the Ares, my fleet of them all have Terran mk3 shields, but they actually get picked off pretty easily in big engagements. I came across 6 Ks the other day, and it did not go well for the fighters, 50 was not nearly enough. But even against one K and some fighters they don't last. I find foundations far worse for fighters than previous X games. I really hate how you can't turn off boost unless you do it manually for every single ship every time you give it an order to attack, because they boost to the target and then get smashed because they have no shields left. I have lost so many fighters that I no longer bother, the cost is too great. I just fly around with 40 destroyers and nothing stands a chance. It's fun to get into a fighter for some dog fighting though.
@JKNinja
@JKNinja Жыл бұрын
That's true about AI boosting. Its really bad with medium ships since their shield recharge rate is much slower than fighters
@KenshinPhoenix
@KenshinPhoenix Жыл бұрын
@@JKNinja That's true too. The only time I use medium ships is for some combat story missions where a fighter won't cut it and a destroyer is too slow. Protect missions mainly.
@manoeuvringwithdifficulty
@manoeuvringwithdifficulty 2 жыл бұрын
The Nova doesn't look so great on paper but its manoeuvrability is unmatched. Using its rotating engines to strafe "upwards" it can be used hug and attack just about any ship from its blindspots and never take a single hit from anything short of a beam. I often use the Nova as my personal ship and its just plain fun to fly (I don't trust my AI pilots with them though).
@XelexMirror
@XelexMirror 2 жыл бұрын
Nova also has almost no area in any projection, making hits unlikely. I can swear I saw my "TER Pulse" shots flying right trough Nova's wing trusses, completely missing from 800m away! ( *rage* )
@james2042
@james2042 Жыл бұрын
Elite Vanguards are actually great cheap little swarm craft. If you're producing them yourself or using the Alliance warf, they're so cheap I can make 3 for every one nova. It's a "throwing bodies at the problem"
@johnscola7642
@johnscola7642 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on auxiliaries they confuse me and I don’t understand how they work.
@JKNinja
@JKNinja 2 жыл бұрын
I plan on releasing that video after 5.00 as I am not sure how much will change from the patch
@johnscola7642
@johnscola7642 2 жыл бұрын
@@JKNinja great just still kinda new to the game so
@edwardtravis903
@edwardtravis903 Жыл бұрын
do L xL class ship review =]
@RetroAmateur1989
@RetroAmateur1989 Жыл бұрын
I find it ironic that the the Nova was the top tier heavy fighter in older games, but now it is begginer.
@myhorseisamazing5883
@myhorseisamazing5883 Жыл бұрын
Kuraokami, no alternative. At least was at cradle of humanity times :D
@trazyntheinfinite9895
@trazyntheinfinite9895 2 жыл бұрын
The answer is katana
@kerravon4159
@kerravon4159 2 жыл бұрын
Which fighter is right for me? I'd probably be happy with an Asgard.
@boraonline7036
@boraonline7036 Жыл бұрын
My experience: Forget about S-classes. Your first one is one but is barely enough to do more than some scouting. Get yourself an M ship ASAP. And in that category I suggest you to buy a Nemesis or a Katana. Because if you fly by yourself, most of what you would do implements combat. And the Nemesis or the Katana are the best average of firepower while still beeing fast. They can also take some hits before they explode. Best config: Use Thermal Disintegrators from Split and also Engines from the Split and and Terran Shields. If you haven't any DLCs (the question would be why not as they are not even expensive) you might go with a Nemesis (as the Katana is no option, doe to the missing Terran DLC) and use Teladi shields and some Bolter Guns. If you still want to do stuff like exploring, mining or trading by yourself, you should have made already enough money by now to have fiting ships available, just in case. But trust me, that activities can get boring very fast!
@user-ii8od4wu5p
@user-ii8od4wu5p 2 жыл бұрын
Any chance of doing this for 5.0? And with VRO?
@wmgthilgen
@wmgthilgen 2 жыл бұрын
Any and all player come to a point in their abities to control the flight of any craft using a KB+M or a game pad. A small craft handles differently than a medium and they handle differently than a large. Finding the right ship regardless of the load out when it comes to the various and numerious modules to choose from. One's personal abilty to fly the craft makes all the difference in the world. Based on my personal abilities using a game pad, the Dragon Raider with six Tao MK2 weapons and two flak turrets, allows me to win when opposing any craft smaller, and the majority of those my own size. I use the same abilities I have using a larger ship for larger craft. But then, I spend all my time playing exploring and being a pirate. I've no interest in any of the politics in the ever changing sectors. That's for other's to do, I eek out an existence like everyone else. It's not about how much one can make, it is all about does your play style give you solist. If this game were to include the ability to be co-op or even multiplay able. I would be a great addition to someone who would hire me because of the fact that I would ever attempt to over throw them and be the boss. I'm a grunt, and take my position seriously. And as such would be an asset to anyone who;s play style is that of management vs doing the dirty itself.
@chaschristiansen
@chaschristiansen 2 жыл бұрын
Kulkri got a bad rep. I run an expensive fleet to be fair. But I build Kulkri with 1 terran mason cannon and 2 pulse lasers with zyarth mk4 engines. In wings of 8 they are great for defending capital ships. In wings of 12 they are a good attack force. My carriers general have 24 of these, 12 gladius, 8 eclipse torp bombers and another 20 or so asps.
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