X570S - Gigabyte / ASUS silent boards reviewed!

[@KitGuruTech]

Has anyone bought an X570S board - or are you holding out for AM5? TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Start 00:15 Introduction / technical info 02:42 ASUS ProArt X570-Creator WiFi - up close 06:30 Cooling thoughts 06:50 Rear I/O 08:27 VRM layout and heatsinks 10:54 ASUS UEFI 11:45 Gigabyte X570S Aorus Master - up close 13:54 Cooling thoughts 14:35 Rear I/O 15:35 VRM layout and heatsinks 18:20 Gigabyte UEFI 19:23 Active OC Tuner 21:00 Test System 21:52 Test Results 22:41 Manual Overclocking and results 23:27 Power Draw 23:55 Temperatures 24:38 Lukes closing thoughts

[@user-JinJunWu]

yerp ~ waiting for AM5

[@NJRoadfan]

Just got the X570 ProArt. Was waiting for a revised X570 board with Thunderbolt as the ASRock X570 Creator had some issues and appears to be discontinued. Tons of B550 boards with TB, but that platform is far too constrained with PCIe bandwidth. The only cons I have with the Asus X570 ProArt is the removal of PS/2 (really Asus? The B550 ProArt has it!) and missing PCIe x1 slots as I have cards I would like to add. I can "get around" that problem with a m.2 to PCIe adapter and some slot splitters (crypto miners are good for something, these things used to be expensive and impossible to find!).

[@barmymagician2970]

Holding out and staying away from gigabyte in future due to cmos battery bug I experienced on the original aurous master 570 v1.0 got a 1.2 in rma. but rma process was a nightmare will probably get one of the last am4 cpus when released depending on reviews

[@napalmarsch]

no stores have them here i want the new mini itx 570

[@FHOM19]

Cant wait to get a hold of that X570s Master! soooo excited! Thanks for helping me make the right choice

[@robbieaussievic]

..... Yeah, I'll tell you what I think, .... Articulate, Informative, broadcast quality, wisdom beyond your years. Well done Mate.

[@alphasixty1316]

I like these S boards. I wish that motherboard manufacturers would give a refresh on their ITX boards.

[@KitGuruTech]

Yes B550 definitely stole the show with ITX options. I was talking to Leo the other about how we would like to see some more decent mATX options too. Luke

[@CarbideGames]

Great job! Keep up the engaging and articulate reviews.

[@danrdey]

An outstanding review , as always , cheers !

[@RantingGreekGamer]

*Your content is beautiful and informative brother. Subbed!!*

[@YoloVib3s]

Love the vid as always as Luke is on top of his game! NGL I lost when he threw hella shade @ 17:20 😂😂😂😂

[@RobBCactive]

Sounds good, but I'm happy with my Gb Aorus X570 mobo which rarely needs the chipset fan in my airy case. It was interesting to hear the kind of refinements on offer, but I should look at a new PCIE4 M2 drive before any other upgrades.

[@KitGuruTech]

Yes some of the original X570 board were actually decent with their fans - the X570 Aorus Master was particularly good after BIOS updates. Some were not so good though! The original ASRock X570 Taichi had a very poor chipset fan. Going fanless with a competent heatsink is an improvement for somebody buying a new board. Luke

[@RobBCactive]

@@KitGuruTech Interesting, the idea of triple M2 is tempting, I totally agree the X570s makes sense. I picked up my board reduced for less than the new quality B550 and loved the drive and USB capacity.

[@KitGuruTech]

@@RobBCactive Yes if you have demand for a lot of connections like SATA, USB, and M.2, X570 is still the better platform versus B550 in general. Especially if you want those connections to be higher speed. Sounds like you got a good deal! Luke

[@mainfighter]

I have a X570S Aorus Master with a 3900x in it currently, plan to upgrade to a 5900x refresh if/when that happens. It's a really good motherboard, love it.

[@KitGuruTech]

Very nice. Is it the 3D cache update to the 5900X you are waiting for? Luke

[@mainfighter]

@@KitGuruTech Yeah, if that ends up happening and being on the same socket. The rumours on the Refresh/3D cache are kind of all over the place right now so who knows what's gonna happen. If it doesn't end up happening I'll probably grab a 5900x or 5950x next year, want to use the 3900x in a new server build to replace my aging Dell R710.

[@KitGuruTech]

@@mainfighter I'm keen and very hopeful we will see some 3D cache refreshes soon. The improvement to cache for Zen 3 has worked very well in my opinion. I wonder if it will be even better with such high extra capacity stacked on. Luke

[@parthasarathys9665]

How is the x570s performance is it good.

[@steveparker2327]

I have the OG Gigabyte mobo and still love it. But i think i like the new one now.

[@YoloVib3s]

I've honestly been looking for a new motherboard for my R9 3950X to upgrade from my Asus B450-E .... I'm thinking this Gigabyte board is the one!

[@rossdev]

Excellent review, thanks! I bought one of the cheaper X570S boards - the MSI Tomahawk. When installing Windows from a USB Key onto my gen 4 NVME drive, I kept getting system errors when copying the install files over to the ssd. I eventually narrowed it down to my RAM (G.Skill Trident Z 3200) - it didn't have an XMP profile set and bizarrely the board didn't like this at all. I also noticed also that the board decided to lose my PBO settings when I was fiddling with the Fan tuner. The BIOS is first release, hopefully they will fix these things in future updates. Other than that I can run my 5600x with a negative all core CO setting of -30 and a plus 200Mhz clock offset.

[@Matti6950]

How do you recognize 'fanless' chipset on Asus motherboards? For Asrock, Gigabyte and MSI they are called x570S (the S being for fanless), but the Asus have no x570s names anywhere, so i don't know how to recognize first from second gen. One of the reasons i didn't buy original x570 is that only Aorus extreme (780€) had no fans, that seems fixed, but Aorus master (my favorite original) is still pretty pricy.

[@sammadden5540]

Yes, thunderbolt 4 on a non-thread ripper means I can have a smaller PC for live performance shows without resorting to using two laptops in place of one Desktop

[@KitGuruTech]

What type of workflow do you use for TB? Sounds interesting with live performanc shows (is that usually Apple territory?). Luke

[@sammadden5540]

@@KitGuruTech live electronic music. Using the computer as an audio processor, synth, drum machine and mixing console simultaneous. TB 3 is kinda expected with higher end audio interfaces and having TB 4 future proofs me for a new lineup of them.

[@KitGuruTech]

@@sammadden5540 Sounds like a really cool workflow and a good use of the TB ecosystem. I personally think TB is absolutely fantastic, especially since adopting the Type-C form factor. I'm glad to see it finally getting some love on AMD. Luke

[@feieralarm]

I'm having an MSI B550 Carbon and I'm desperately waiting for the X570S Aorus Master to come in stock. While the B550 has been a perfectly stable platform, I'm just missing those extra PCIe lanes.

[@jonathanjohnson2112]

I got mine on Amazon with next day delivery

[@ДанилаМастерЛомастер]

А зачем было покупать в550? Изначально же понятно, что в550, это обрезок. Единственный плюс, меньшее тепловыделение и пассивные радиаторы.

[@PSYCHOPATHiO]

All I can say is nice work.

[@alsydar]

Excellent Review, Thanks!

[@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt]

"Silence of the boards"

[@-opus]

There are no air-quotes required for the S, not sure why you appear to have an issue with this, it is obviously the same chipset, but without the fan, it is a good thing.

[@capturingperfectionphotogr1144]

Thanks so much for this!

[@GabrielTobing]

10:24 24/7 Operation? Finally, I use my PC 24/7 without having to worry about warranty snapping at me! :D

[@DangerGnom]

the new Version of the Tomahawk looks very interesting. MSI X570S Tomahawk Max WiFi....also the X570S Torpedo. The naming alone is comedy gold...

[@KitGuruTech]

I do find MSI's naming quite entertaining :D! Luke

[@soupwizard]

MSI's next motherboard: B520 Pocket Knife ITX

[@zig131]

Only Realtek Ethernet on the Tomahawk though :/

[@Mutation666]

Dual side cooling on SSD doesnt matter Flash likes to be warm only thing that needs to be cool is ram/controller.

[@KitGuruTech]

Indeed for the NAND packages, however there can be heat soak through the PCB from the controller. Some backside cooling may help this (though front side is definitely more useful). Also depends on the individual SSD layout too, albeit non-NAND components on the rear side is not very common. Luke

[@carlosclara4759]

I getting the Gigabyte x570 Pro AX wifi. Higabyte makes the best looking MoBos.

[@johnpaulbacon8320]

Awesome video.

[@cswann8]

1:30 Well moving to passive heatsink cooling vs a small, noisy, might-fail fan is a good move imo. But then, I'm an idiot so take that FWIW.

[@kristophermerrill803]

Wondering if I should wait for whenever Asus decides to bring out the x570s TUF or if I should go for the MSI Tomahawk Max x570s

[@muzar333]

It's already out : TUF GAMING X570-PRO WIFI II. Asus doesn't name X570S but X570 II

[@Slacker28]

I think the Pro-Art will take bandwideth away from GPU if you use all 3 M.2 SSD slots

[@erikhendrickson59]

There's little more frustrating when building your PC than realizing the mainboard's fan headers are in literally THE WORST possible locations. These boards look pretty solid though!

[@luigibellantoni6828]

Yup ..I just got the gigabyte x570 aorus elite and the system fan headers are in the worst possible locations. And there's only 2. Terrible design flaw on that part but the board is quite solid.

[@QuentinStephens]

If I needed four NVME drives in a prosumer system I'd be buying Threadripper Pro. It only serves to illustrate how few PCIe lanes Ryzen has.

[@KitGuruTech]

That's a fair counter-point. If I needed four NVMe SSDs for my video editing machine (I'm currently about half full on my third), I'd go with a relevant board that could do that once I had chosen the processor (which would likely be a desktop Ryzen 5000 chip). TR/TR Pro definitely serve a purpose but they are also very expensive and sometimes not necessary for a lot of use cases. Luke

[@QuentinStephens]

@@KitGuruTech Don't you currently run a Threadripper system? Or is that Leo?

[@astarothmarduk3720]

Threadripper Pro has x8 memory interleaving which is overkill for many tasks in my opinion. A normal Threadripper with x2 or x4 memory interleaving and only 12 or 16 cores, but for a cheaper price and lower TDP, and guaranteed ECC support would be ideal for a small workstation.

[@KitGuruTech]

@@QuentinStephens Leo runs Threadripper and has more SSDs than I'd care to count. I think they are mainly SATA though. Luke

[@swizzler8053]

Just bought the S master. It's amazing.

[@KitGuruTech]

Very nice. Have you tried the Active OC Tuner? Luke

[@swizzler8053]

@@KitGuruTech not yet. But I just enable it and that's it? I don't need to change anything?

[@KitGuruTech]

@@swizzler8053 You can set the manual OC settings you want (voltage, clock speed, loadline calibration, etc.). Then you just enable PBO ('enabled' is my preferred setting) and enable Active OC Tuner. You can do some manual tweaking to Active OC Tuner to change things like the CPU Current when it triggers, and CPU temp when it throttles back to PBO. But it works well out of the box in my experience. Definitiely worth a test out. Luke

[@swizzler8053]

@@KitGuruTech going to test it out. So enable pbo and enable oc tuner and I am good to go? I really don't have experience with manually change voltages and stuff.

[@KitGuruTech]

@@swizzler8053 you enable PBO and also Active OC Tuner. But you will want to make sure you manually tune the voltage and multiplier for your CPU too - a manual overclock. If you're not confident with manual overclocking, there are lots of guides and you can also check our reviews of the CPU you have. But PBO on its own is a very good option if you're not experienced with manual overclocking right now. Luke

[@Belznis]

S - the sports version :D No PCI slots makes this board not interesting to me. Kind of expensive too, but I guess it aims to be a high end board.

[@KitGuruTech]

Haha! At least it's not 'S' for 'Slow' :D! Luke

[@astarothmarduk3720]

I have wished for at least one PCIe x1 slot to put a sound card in it and still allow for Thunderbolt 4 as an option (addin card). One less M.2 slot would be acceptable. In my use case, I do not see more than two M.2 slots necessary (max 2x 4TB = 8TB).

[@Belznis]

@@astarothmarduk3720 yes, I wonder why they do that. I mean external sound cards are most of the time so much better. Either they should go from pci to some other system or at least add a slot for the sound card. On a mAtx board they slam 2 of them, and you can't really use them without an extension cable, because of the GPU, but a normal ATX board like that does not have even one ;/

[@astarothmarduk3720]

@@Belznis Luckily, there are other options: Asus ProArt X570-CREATOR WIFI Asus ROG STRIX X570-E GAMING WIFI II Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero MSI MEG X570S ACE MAX (and some more from them) I understand that some people want to put more M.2 storage, but a more balanced board with 10 Gbit/s Ethernet and/or Thunderbolt 4 allows for NAS which is even better for those in need. I like the VRM implementation of Gigabyte X570S Aorus Master very much, but power consumption is surprisingly high given the effort, stock on idle and load. Overclocking I would not do on a productive system, even PBO not. But ECC memory I would use, together with the huge cache of 5900X/5950X it works better (even moreso with the new 3D cache CPU variants which are to come). That is why I have not researched MSI too much.

[@skeetssaer2018]

To be honest I do not understand the lamentations on the Chipset fan. I have never heard my fan. I am totally satisfied with my Strix E.

[@KitGuruTech]

The Strix-E is particularly good for the chipset fan. Many other X570 boards were nowhere near as good as that one. Luke

[@ncarrasco2006]

Hi, if you remove the heatsink of the main M.2 slot. Because the M.2 already has a heatsink and does not fit, do you think that can affect the heatsink temperature noticeably ? (under intense and continuos workloads ? )

[@javiernunez124]

If you buy an m2 with an integrated heatsink, use it, it will work perhaps even better, if you don't have it integrated, the heatsink Most of the brands tell you not to remove the label because you lose warranty, personally I tell you personally I remove the label since it interferes between the ship and the heatsink that originally comes on the motherboard and it is there all the time cold at 28 C to 32 C

[@MDA_01]

I want to run two GPU's (8x / 8x) and a couple of M.2 drives, and a couple of SATA drives - one SATA SSD and one SATA HDD. I confused by Luke's comment on the 'less than ideal lane allocation' on the ProArt board. Can anyone explain the difference in lane allocation between these boards. Thank you!

[@tomquimby8669]

too late - AM5 for my next build

[@jimbossimrigs7961]

The opener inferred here (inless I misheard) that there wasnt a true fully silent X570 before these, isnt the Asus X570 Dark Hero fully silent?

[@KitGuruTech]

Yes, we highlight a couple of those boards in the video. The ASUS Dark Hero and the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme (which we have worked with and was around at X570 launch). They were both the minority for X570 though (and were very expensive). Luke

[@jeremiahk364]

Can you run all four m.2 slots in pcie 4.0? If so does it disable anything? Or run the gpu in 8x?

[@kitsune2858]

Going to run my old ass rammage, have to check QVC

[@zig131]

Good job Asus and Gigabyte going for Intel Ethernet. Incredibly disappointing that MSI sticks with Realtek right up to the high end

[@KitGuruTech]

The 2.5GbE issues for the earlier revisions seem to be all gone now, especially since the I225V B3 revision. Very good to see - Intel NICs have an otherwise excellent rep. Luke

[@astarothmarduk3720]

I have built an affordable gaming system with RTL8125B networking (Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite v2, AMD Ryzen 5600X, 2x8 GB DDR4-3200-CL16, 1 TB WD Blue SN550 TLC SSD). On Windows, if you install the newest driver 10.050, it works without problems (1 Gbit/s tested because of router limitation). On Linux, I had to use kernel 5.10 or newer which is readily available now. Intel had to revise their silicon twice which is embarrassing. I do not buy brands, but quality. Judging from the past is not recommended. The newest revision B3 of the Intel i225v NIC I would trust because there is no newer revision after some time, and there is a limit of embarrassment I assume. X570S boards or Asus B550-XE use this revision, older B550 boards not. ASRock uses Killer (Intel or Realtek in disguise) which is not acceptable marketing gimmick. MSI I would not recommend for prosumer/workstation use on desktop platforms, because ECC RAM is not supported on B550/X570 boards.

[@bigomua]

Can you recommend the x570s ud board (silent 6 layers PCB) for use with the 5950x CPU without overclocking

[@pr0jectSkyneT]

MSI x570s carbon max WiFi

[@LordoftheDuat78]

So, why couldn't these passively cooled chipset X570 mobos have come out at launch 2 years ago? I mean it's the exact same chipset

[@zig131]

BIOS updates since then have let the chipset run cooler so achieving passive cooling is now more economically viable.

[@dommo2803]

This, Aero G or Asus X570-e Strix Wifi II (fanless)?

[@sharkwithmanners1734]

Hi Luke so if got this board for an upcoming build being put together by Scan pc, can I just confirm that I can populate all the m.2 slots while still having my 3080ti ?

[@KitGuruTech]

Yes, that will work fine. With the ASUS board, populating all M.2 slots with PCIe x4 SSDs is fine, it just means that a single graphics card - your 3080 Ti - should drop to x8 lanes from the CPU instead of x16. Luke

[@sharkwithmanners1734]

@@KitGuruTech hi Luke thanks for the reply ! I should have said it’s the x570s AORUS master I’m getting in the build and scan told me I could only have 3 m.2 cards, but looking at your review I can have 4, please treat me as a novice but what do you mean by x16 to x8 lanes please and how would that effect the GPU ?

[@KitGuruTech]

@@sharkwithmanners1734 I just checked that board's manual again for you. You should be able to do four M.2 SSDs as well as a graphics card. x8 or x16 is just the graphics card PCIe link speed. x8 is usually OK but x16 is most common and best. From the manual, you should be able to do 4x M.2 PCIe NVMe SSDs as well as a 3080 Ti at full x16 speed. I haven't tested this personally, but the motherboard layout block diagram and manual information suggests it should be fine. Luke

[@sharkwithmanners1734]

@@KitGuruTech thank you very much Luke for the info an the reply, scan pc were telling me I could only have 3 m.2, but if I can have four it helps me storage wise. I’m also going to be using the 3080ti aorus extreme so mobo and GPU are both gigabyte

[@KitGuruTech]

@@sharkwithmanners1734 No problem at all. Scan may have extra information or test data, but from the info in the manual, four M.2 should work fine. Very nice - sounds like a powerful combo! Luke

[@kenney0313]

Hmm? Is it the video or my isp? The vid quality is "unavailable" for change & it's fuzzy.

[@KitGuruTech]

This is likely KZbin still processing the video and there being a delay unfortunately. It should be full quality soon. Luke

wy is my mobo display on 9E ? x570S Master, amd 3700x. is that oke or not ? it has something to do with tpm ?

[@nota2810]

Notification gang

[@KitGuruTech]

glad to have you with us!

[@damianlukowski9996]

Is it possible to disable SATA and/or NVME drives via BIOS?

[@KitGuruTech]

Yes it should be. There are SATA control options within the UEFI, but I can't say I paid massive attention to whether or not they can be soft disabled if I'm honest. Luke

[@chrisbullock6477]

All the mono tone talking was slow, then when you got to the test results....you flew by each slide so quick!! LOL

[@ДанилаМастерЛомастер]

15:46. Что-то напрягают меня эти пятна от термопрокладок на текстолите

[@amigatommy7]

Rather have less SATA then loose Pcie lanes

[@t1aaj545]

Where is the HDMI port on this?

[@TheSjuris]

On the GPU in the first pci-e slot.

[@picklewiickle.1583]

only time my fan comes on is during bootup.

[@KitGuruTech]

That's good to hear it runs well in zero-RPM fan mode. Which board do you have? Luke

[@astarothmarduk3720]

I like to build a Linux host/Windows guest VM configuration and GPU passthrough using a high corecount Zen 3 CPU (5900x/5950x) and because of lacking iGPU two discrete graphics cards (one low power/low end like 1030 GT/1050 (Ti) which can be used with four PCIe lanes) aka dGPUs. The Asus ProArt B550-CREATOR was tested by Level1Techs and puts all chipset in IOMMU group 15 which is unfortunate (kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5Czl5Z7qreUfKM). Does this board behave differently? The Asus X570 Dark Hero has a suitable IOMMU mapping. Gigabyte provides the BIOS setting "Initial Display Output" to choose the primary GPU, how about Asus? In the user manual the BIOS settings are not mentioned (unlike Gigabyte). I assume that this BIOS option is not too important because I can blacklist the GPU I want to passthrough in the kernel options and do not need to fiddle with BIOS at boot time anymore.

[@KitGuruTech]

Very good question and I am not entirely sure on the answer to be honest as I did not fully check the IOMMU groupings. My UEFI screenshots show that there is a setting for disabling/enabling SR-IOV, but that may not be exactly what you need. My own previous experience with ASUS boards has also been positive with virtualisation and pass-through *when* the board is designed for it (i.e. a high-end board on a high-end platform like X570, but perhaps not so on B550). Sorry I cannot be of more help with this one. Luke

[@astarothmarduk3720]

@@KitGuruTech SR-IOV is vGPU (sharing a GPU between virtual machines) which still is marketed as an enterprise feature, only possible on Quadro and Tesla cards, and you have to pay annually for the nVidia vGPU driver, using a license server. A hack allows to use vGPU on GeForce cards as well, but you have to pay the subscription per user and year. GPU passthrough means that you have dedicated GPUs for every VM, used exclusively with the common driver. Since March 2021 nVidia allows GPU passthrough to one Windows 10 guest VM, no hack necessary anymore, to facilitate graphical application usage on guest OS. Thus you need two graphics cards if the CPU has no integrated graphics (iGPU).

[@johannesdolch]

This silent is BS. I have a normal Aorus X570 Pro and while it has a fan, that fan almost never runs. I only ever heard it when starting the PC then immediately stops

[@waitandhope]

Tempting

[@frijin490]

Finally PS/2 -ports are gone.

[@KitGuruTech]

Can't say that I miss them either :D! Luke

[@dkat1108]

You do realize how bad Gigabyte RMA is right now ya ? Everyone says its a total fricking mess and stay away from anything Gigabyte IDK thats what Gamers Nexus and Jay have been screaming.

[@KitGuruTech]

yes we have seen their videos. We are in the UK though. until we get news its bad over here, not much we can do about that. We are here to review the products.... thanks!

[@swizzler8053]

Nothing wrong with their mobos. Had them for years.

[@BERSERKERDEMON1]

@@swizzler8053 I saw you bought an Aorus Master x570s, one or two questions: Would it accept 4x 32 Gb memory modules in 3200Mhz (very much rare brand: Markvision, but I m going for that one because it s very cheap actually) Can gigabyte motherboards hold it with overclocking? (I am a Asus user and i saw sooooo many MSI users with dead motherboards that I know I will never buy one)

[@Brahma-Astra]

waiting for AM5.......AM4 is a dead platform so will not bother with either S or T or W or X............