Xbox + Activision: A Lawyer Answers the Big Questions

[@DestinL]

Check out HoegLaw at kzbin.info One thing I should note, Acti will be fine. They wouldn't be dissolved I don't think as they still make money. Anyway did you like this? Always great having Hoeg on the show! Hey, you may not have $70 billion, but if you like these free videos, please consider subscribing for more! kzbin.info Check out merch here! shop.spreadshirt.com/TheDestinChannelMerch

[@ryhanon7]

Great video. I first stumbled upon Hoeg’s videos shortly after the Bethesda acquisition and he’s been immensely informative about all these things. There’s so much misinformation out there when it comes to these acquisitions so I’m really glad to see you two talk about all this to sort out what’s actually going on and explaining it in a way that people will understand. Top notch stuff.

[@zonkedmusician1502]

I learned so much from this. Thanks Destin. Great to see someone standing up and saying, "Hey, I don't know anything about what I'm about to discuss but here is somebody who totally does". Would love to see a little more of this kind of content. Keep up the great work. Let's get to that 100,000!

[@AosZ]

Thanks for bringing in H Law! I love his content! Great to get your answers from a real pro!

[@lordxboss5700]

I assume Some of those 10 Live service games are well into development and Bungie will get them across the finish line 🤷‍♂️ there's no way that list starts with the acquisition

[@real_Pinoy]

Embracer group has more Studios then Microsoft

[@SpicyPsyDuck]

Nice Destin, unlike those fanboys and armchair lawyers who pull stuff out of their asses, you actually got a legit lawyer to talk about it, bravo

[@parkermurden]

Hoeg Law is great… watch it all the time!

[@AgentMurden]

I think Xbox learned a lot from acquiring Rare…. they tried forcing them to do what they wanted with kinetic and other failed games which all did terrible, then they let them come up with something on their own and we got Sea Of Thieves which not only was Xbox’s most successful new ip in the xbox one generation but also proved gamepass would work being the first test for a new release on game pass same day as launch

[@DarthAscension]

Did we forget SoT was not great at launch? The game is fine, I enjoy it in small bursts but it was a huge disappointment at launch.

[@sergiodiaz2725]

@@DarthAscension And then it wasn’t, if a game is good and successful now then it’s good, what happened then doesn’t matter.

[@AgentMurden]

@@DarthAscension No I definitely agree with that but Rare was left alone to fix it and they have made the game a lot better since…. It wasn’t until January 2020 that Microsoft said it was it’s most successful new ip for the xbox one generation so it took 2 years to get the game up and running… but to be fair for their first games as a service/ online multiplayer they did pretty well, just needed a little more time get there

[@thed3m0n0id9]

The most commercially successful Xbox One game was actually Quantum Break. Love me some SoT though!!!!

[@DarthAscension]

@@sergiodiaz2725 but it does matter... The situation could have been very different just look at how CP2077 is being handled... Or the latest BF game yes very different type of games under different studios but both were monumental let downs to the fans and we have no idea how long the games will be supported. SoT and no man's sky are success stories but with the way game pass is changing the industry who is getting the money and could a developer who does not release a very successful game be starved or shut down?

[@jeffreyagm]

Wow what a master piece of content ! I learned so much with this and answer ALOT of questions I had. I never enjoy 45 minute long videos but this felt like a 2 min video lol great stuff destin !

[@bandekhoda7801]

Exactly 👍

[@jahelton246]

Agreed 💯

[@SPY0817]

I only realized when I read your comment that is was 45min :D

[@daksans6764]

I could have watched it for 2 hours.

[@DanteGabriel-lx9bq]

This is somthing really good Destin, thanks for brining Hoeq law here, and thanks to be here for us Law.👍

[@mruncommoncents2237]

Love Hoeg Law! Hyped to see him on the show.

[@dragonballz227]

This is awesome news and information about this buy out. Destin was thinking about THQ

[@steveafanador6441]

This dude is sharp as a tack. 👍👍

[@Runewalker]

Awesome content Destin, keep up the good work!

[@Medsas]

This Hoeg guy is everywhere lmao, this must be the 10th podcast hes done on the topic lmao

[@fishmo_mofish]

Yep.

[@daksans6764]

I'm glad he is everywhere as most fanboys are spreading bullshit about this deal.

[@Diegocastillo-ok4wr]

Activision/Blizzard will be with Xbox and great things are coming for all of us gamers !!!

[@kurtthejerktv4637]

Like the micro-transaction in Halo Infinite, Gear 5 and Froza Horizon 4

[@Diegocastillo-ok4wr]

@@kurtthejerktv4637 cry more pony

[@MickeyFKNMouse]

@@Diegocastillo-ok4wr What’s to cry about? You do know that Xbox is Microsoft’s least profitable area in The whole company right? Do you also think that the amount of money being paid out will be paid for wholly by xbox services? The amount that needs to be paid back to make money is colossal and will not be made back by xbox alone. That pissy little price you pay for gamepass will have to increase substantially. Like it or not it will happen. Not if, but when. And it won’t be a small increase either. Kidding yourselves

[@daksans6764]

@@MickeyFKNMouse Gamepass price will increase but not anytime soon.

[@MickeyFKNMouse]

@@daksans6764 Wouldn’t bank on that. They’ve tried it once already. They’ve already done it to get gold and they will do it again before the year end. I bet my destiny account they will.

[@lytesout2007]

Can you do a video about how easy/Hard it would be for Microsoft to buy a Big Japanese Company ie Capcom Namco etc

[@gamer55551]

That would be interesting

[@iroquoispliskin8791]

This please

[@TheWholeGrainBread_Real]

First things first, they would need to create a shell corporation/subsidiary in Japan. Once that is done, they can proceed with a buying process. I don't know what Japan's requirements are but it's not as hard as people thing. US companies buy international companies all of the time.

[@TheWholeGrainBread_Real]

@@MixtapesOfThe90s let me guess, you're a fanboy that's trying to cope? It's pretty common knowledge in the business world that creating a shell corporation for international business dealings is a requirement. Sony did it with their videogame division or did you think Sony was a US based company? Don't try to act like you're knowledgeable in this kind of thing when clearly you're not.

[@TheWholeGrainBread_Real]

@@MixtapesOfThe90s its pretty clear you are. Until you disprove that, ill continue calling you a fanboy trying to cope. You've done nothing to disprove me. Like I said, its common practice for a company based in another country to create a shell company to abide by those country's business and tax laws. I fail to see how you thinking calling me out on that disproves that fact.

[@BusyDadGaming]

Great interview and love having the deeper dive on the situation.

[@wmredwine]

Glad you got Hoeg on here. He does an awesome job explaining these things.

[@y3l10wflash6]

Destin please hang out with Hoeg more often for vids!!! It doesn't even have to be for legal stuff all the time. Y'all are awesome together & would love to see ya both just talking about stuff, hanging out, & playing games I think that would be cool change of pace every once in a while (Allows us to get more wisdom from y'all too when ya both are playing. I enjoy hearing ya both talk about anything really)

[@bobdole88]

Congrats on 80k Destin! Great video!

[@emptycan666]

I'm so proud of you Destin for finally pronouncing Hoeg right 💚

[@86lanzo]

Hoag becoming an Internet celebrity..have a feeling he's going to be everywhere in the next few years because of all the acquisition.

[@SlayerzXtreme]

Hey Destin, why didn't you bring a few 15 years old toxic lawyers from Twitter to your show? Apparently they know everything about law, legal stuff, acquisitions, marketing, etc. especially when it comes to hate on Microsoft 24/7.

[@tasnifrahman2486]

Hoeg is a gem, keeping us normies from embarrassing ourselves.

[@zeongepyon4041]

Facts

[@MaNA_tW]

Probably listened to 5+ hours of Hoeg over the last week. Dude's great.

[@rope-a-dope]

A lot of quality well thought out content lately.

[@bruceayers512]

Great to see Hoeg on your channel. He has a wealth of knowledge.

[@daksans6764]

Hoeg is the only person who can make legal topic interesting.

[@ronmerkus5941]

I really appreciate and enjoyed this video Justin , hopefully you will have your guest on again!!!

[@Silversaiyan500]

I cant wait for crossfire x. The Activision thing will get itself done not worried about it

[@gee3341]

@@jasonmax5759 who cares what ign scores games anymore. It's all about what the person playing it thinks of the game. These critics have shown time and time again they can't be trusted on reviews. Too much bias and stupid shit going into reviews these days. The new criteria is if it's woke enough, can't make a pretty character, whether the main character is female or male, is it easy to play, does it have a LGBTQ character, and so on.

[@Silversaiyan500]

@@jasonmax5759 what gee said. Idc about what other people think about the game it's what I think about the game. If people told you god of war ragnorok was gonna be awful you cant convince me youd believe it

[@masterchief4150]

@@jasonmax5759 they thought cyberpunk was good so they're opinion doesn't really matter

[@MalikATL]

@@Silversaiyan500 game looks so basic it looks like a free to play game that you would randomly passed up on the PSN store/Xbox store.

[@Shaker1000]

@@MalikATL Again I think you missed the point, I don't think they care what you have to say. They are going to play it regardless. So why worry about what others people play? You weirdo.

[@1AJBOOMER]

Great Job guys 👌🏽

[@TheWholeGrainBread_Real]

I've never watched any of Hoeg Laws videos but man, he's super informative and can really drive some good points. Sounds like he's a good lawyer for sure. It also sounds like he's a gamer himself which is really cool.

[@daksans6764]

He is a lawyer who also happens to be a gamer.

[@johnmecca9008]

Incredible video Destin. Everyone needs to see this.👍🏽

[@Beaver187]

Adam Conover should interview this guest. Probably won't go over well.

[@bandekhoda7801]

Great vid Destin 👍👍 keep up good content 🙏

[@MemoriesDestroyUs]

Great job with the video destin

[@IMPORTEKNIKA]

Destin, Good Lord. I came for gaming news and left with a free legal class. I appreciate your thoughtful approach to providing your viewers factual and in this case, educational content. I came out of this video more knowledgeable as a result. Thank you. Destin: Xbox and Activision will likely happen. Okay, fine. Don't take my word for it. **Brings an expert to the show.** 👏

[@daksans6764]

Hoeg is a professional lawyer and he is familiar with the real stuff that goes through this deal and now look at gaming media who are screaming monopoly despite knowing nothing about monopoly.

[@rickyseo1]

Amazing video Destin

[@capote5000]

This interview was an excellent idea!

[@iamredoctober]

This was fantastic. Great work!

[@DestinL]

Thank you

[@TcherryTHOREST]

Nice video and guest Destin! 👏🏾

[@TheDonofTheBronx]

Good content here. Keep it flowing 💯

[@Angel-dq2yc]

Loved the episode. Great guest and info. Thank you. As a future investor in the gaming industry, this was very Informative.

[@SSmitar]

Why even are people comparing MS/Activision deal to Nvidia/ARM? Virtually every RISC cheap on the planet is developed using ARM patents and ARM IS. Almost electronic company uses these patents to design SOCs. Nvidia buying ARM is like Amazon buying Walmart, Costo etc. Even then that's not an equivalent analogy given how ubiquitous ARM is in RISC sector.

[@vaguedreams]

Yeah, I am unsure of the reasoning for this also. They are completely different scales. It would be like MS buying a patent for 3d graphics and being the only company that can license it out for gaming, as opposed to buying a large publisher. Quite a silly comparison IMO.

[@treomoe]

When you speak of quality content. This is it.

[@stevencuellarart9495]

Finally someone with the right answers

[@keepyourdead2955]

Man thanks for this....... now this is real gaming news etc. Stuff like this will separate you from the rumor mongers and biased content creator's.

[@daksans6764]

Thankfully Hoeg is there to end bullshit rumour and fear mongering.

[@AussieGamerPlays]

Destin thank you that was really great. I would have liked to know the lawyers background as he seems pretty knowledgeable about the gaming industry but i dont know his name anything else about him 😊

[@DestinL]

Thank you for watching Dig!

[@HoegLaw]

Michigan Law '05. Grew up in Midwest "big law" doing mergers and acquisition, venture capital, and general corporate counsel (non-litigation). Grew software, and SaaS practice in '08 capital slowdown. Made full partner in '14. Started own firm in 2016 with focus on tech, software, and entrepreneurship.

[@Solidrocfitness]

I like listening to this gentleman; this was a great interview. HoegLaw, I had to subscribe.

[@timtop105]

This is an amazing video. Compliments all deserved.

[@carlos323131]

What filled with hope for Xbox studios future, Was when the report of Xbox working with a 2nd party studio on a monster hunter type game since they didn't want to make their first party studios do it.

[@wolfinstedd]

I do think tencent having vocal share in so many video company is more worrying .

[@luciusthegreat5569]

I agree . That is what both companies are worried about . It is not each other Phil has said this .

[@Donald_Allan]

A lot of the company they have shares and investments in are companies that Sony also has shares and investments in

[@vaguedreams]

Why?

[@screamat333am7]

Damn damn great interview! Hopefully you can have him on your show everytime something big happens in the gaming industry

[@imadetheuniverse4fun]

Very informative!

[@LuciusAugustusRex]

Let's Go Hoeg Law!

[@ioannisdenton]

7 minutes in and this is EXCELLENT.

[@jerryholbrook13]

this monopoly crap is started by sony ponys who know if xbox fullfills its strategy its gonna cause sony to fall behind. i think its horrible. xbox is not a monopoly not even close. if sony bought activision etc nobody would say anything. the haters of xbox are truely trying to ruin everything for non toxic non fanboy gamers im having a hard time not getting angry about it. i really hope phol spencers vision for xbox succeeds!

[@nolanvoid1548]

more of this, less fan boy B.S. thank you both.

[@royvandalen6382]

what about for xbox nearly impossible to operate in japan en china while ps and tencent seem to be able to operate freely in the west? Should be part of consideration to approve/disaaprove this deal?

[@leesouthwell9655]

I was thinking the same thing

[@vaguedreams]

Clarify what you are saying, but as far as this goes, all they care about is the US laws.

[@royvandalen6382]

@@vaguedreams its also about politics. US gov is under rising pressure to stop unfair trade practices. Stopping Activison purchase while PS and mainly Tencent have done so many details in past 2 years will not look good.

[@peskykrogan6145]

Thanks, Dustin for bringing someone that knows the legal aspect of this acquisition into perspective.

[@daksans6764]

It's way better than having self proclaimed lawyer like Colin Moriarty who doesn't know jackshit about legal system.

[@JustAguyNamedJohn.]

great video keep it coming 😀😀

[@afatasimatai]

Good content Destin

[@bakesaletv2676]

Really hope the deal goes trough

[@Zoekiki85]

I’m not an expert in finance nor In business law but I think that a big company like company they can afford any big law firm or financial firm to tell them whether or not this deal will go through or not

[@vaguedreams]

Yes, why don't we ask TMobile, ATT, and Comcast of their various failed purchase and merger attempts.

[@chasejackson7248]

Unless you have a law firm that are psychic or can read minds then they won't be able to tell you if a deal will go thru.

[@DallasRabot]

Once again Destin, you have made some really valuable and truly unique content. Awesome.

[@hottakeapproved6340]

I don't understand why we would want to limit our American company when it's primarily dominated by Japan...

[@Motografy]

Speaking truth in this video. To think, these issues are being triggered by people who are mad about Xbox competing in the gaming industry. Tweeting the POTUS, making phone calls to God. Smh

[@chrism9165]

I love this hoeg guy he flat out said the Sony deal with Bungie was horrible which I said since day 1.

[@sanchezs7614]

This whole issue is just Pony fan haters not wanting Xbox to acquire Activision that's it

[@sprintingsnail9492]

Yeah, because the ponies drafted anti trust legislation and the ponies also formed the FTC and DoJ.

[@justarandompersoniguess]

Yeah, even though I personally was taken by surprise and just a bit uneasy about it I’d rather this than kotick and the toxic work environment staying around any day of the week Also then again, I’m usually skeptical about a lot of things so I’m not surprised

[@felipesantos-er4kk]

@@sprintingsnail9492 No. Ponies like to cry "Bwaaa Monopoly"

[@sprintingsnail9492]

@@felipesantos-er4kk strawman argument

[@mmmidnight1812]

I think sony fans are bringing attention to it and not knowing that the FTC and the department of Justice investigate these things regularly

[@hdeazy]

Hoeg blowing up...💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

[@sdngy]

Wonder if Sony will not explode in flight while trying to sustain 10 live service games...the effort to sustain a Triple AAA live service games is significantly more than a triple AAA single player game. Just look at call of duty the number of thousand of persons working on that game. Even Bungie 900 persons just for 1 game... The live service game is a smart move, but that might be a little bit too optimistic to release 10 games and not have all studios stucked to maintain it.

[@HalfpennyTerwilliger]

They probably don't intend to maintain all 10. I'm guessing they're throwing a dozen on the wall to see what sticks.

[@sdngy]

@@HalfpennyTerwilliger there are probably light or minor GaaS vs full fledged triple AAA live service games

[@dirrecgaming]

Good dialogue!

[@Notremah]

Do the antitrust regulators have the right to stop a companies ambitions to be number 1 in a competitive space? It seems as though the gaming industry standard is that Sony, tencent, and Nintendo are pillars and anyone else who attempts to knock one down is monopolizing. But why can’t Microsoft aim to be #1?

[@crimsonsnow7228]

Well, laws are not preemptive. You cannot deny a burglar his freedom from prison, just because he might steal again. Yes there are some exceptions in criminal law, but in the end we punish people for what they have done, not what they can do. The same for business law. You cannot prevent a company from growing because they have a lot of a money and can do bad things with it. Until they are doing the "bad" thing, they are not doing anything wrong and technically cannot be punished for it. At least that is the argument.

[@daksans6764]

Gaming community who grew up in the 80s and 90s and gaming outlets have some bias against Microsoft because they see Microsoft as a threat to their favourite platform. Microsoft is not going anywhere and they are soon going to dominate the industry.

[@Notremah]

@@daksans6764 I think years from now this will be a moot topic. Kind of like asking who dominates the movie industry, Disney, Warner brothers or paramount? No one looks at it like that. It’s not a winner takes all industry. And the pie is big enough for everyone to take a huge bite. What this means is a world where content not the console reigns supreme.

[@daksans6764]

@@Notremah By dominate I mean content not console. Sony and Nintendo are always going to outsell Xbox because Xbox is the weakest brand in the world but they can dominate through subscription service like game pass.

[@michaelpurdon7032]

The Bungie deal parameters are very much like Mojang. Even the new Minecraft Dungeons was multiplat

[@TheBongReyes]

I could see the FTC to force Microsoft to sell a portion of Activision/Blizzard to seal the deal. Just like the government told Disney that they would have to sell Fox’s local TV affiliates for the acquisition to go thru. That said, Disney bought 24th Century Fox for its media catalog to be used on Hulu & Disney+. So at a certain level, Microsoft acquiring Activision for Game Pass is a bit comparable.

[@vaguedreams]

I doubt that, what specific portion could the FTC justify forcing them to sell and what would be that justification?

[@canderson1740]

Great video to have someone who knows the laws but can give insight on how things work in the industry. I'm hoping some mobile games are put on consoles. I'd play Candy Crush on my Xbox if I had the option.

[@kendrickstarr]

hoeg is everywhere now.

[@LightwarriorRz]

Do you guys think Micro$oft will go for the jugular after the Acti/Blizzard acquisition goes through and try to acquire one final publisher? Ubisoft, and Sega seems like the most obvious.

[@felipesantos-er4kk]

Ubisoft? My god 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@TheWholeGrainBread_Real]

Ubisoft and/or EA I think. EA would be a massive purchase though.

[@luciusthegreat5569]

I want Sega . The IP alone are fantastic ! Plus you would get more Japanese games/ developers. Japanese games are definitely missing from the Microsoft portfolio. How long is Phil’s cool down time last with his checkbook ? We shall see ….

[@chasejackson7248]

A Japanese company won't happen.

[@cluckbent6466]

ea hopefully

[@inigomontoya619]

Cool idea. Thanks man

[@HScarlet]

It's really not much of an issue any more. Not only is MS insisting on releasing further games for PS, but now they want games like CoD on Nintendo Switch as well.

[@jackd6148]

Nothing I love more than ponies saying Hoeg doesn't know what he's talking about.

[@willhenry7465]

I normally would have said this deal will easily go through. Some of these media outlets that are in Sony's pocket are already beating that monopoly drum. causing much more attention than this would have gotten by default.

[@DarthAscension]

Sony don't have the money to be behind this... I would suspect Amazon, apple or another mega corp who wanted into the gaming space in a big way to be more upset about this.

[@T_M_E_8]

No matter what the media says, this will easily go through because it is no where near a monopoly. I’ve never heard of a monopoly as the 3rd place market leader

[@chasejackson7248]

Is that you Alex Jones.

[@DarthAscension]

@@T_M_E_8 it's fun you say third place but failed to mention that they are a over two billion dollar corporation... Sony and Nintendo don't have that claim to fame and honestly Xbox should be forced to separate from them... I feel if Amazon wants to keep going they should also.

[@NsanityGamez]

@@DarthAscension i think you meant trillion dollar corporation. In addition when looking at issues the FTC/ DOJ focus on markets and not how big the parent company is in other industries. Unless it maybe relevant to the market they are investigating. If they focus on the gaming market it will go through because the gaming industry is to big and no one is close to having a monopoly. If they narrow the scope down to video game streaming services that market size gets smaller and that may be a cause of concern. So no the total value of a company is not the focus or main focus on whether or not the deal is a cause of concern. They also have to risk taking it to court if they do want to step in and block a deal going through. So even if the FTC wants to block it because Microsoft, the courts themselves may not see it that way and allow the deal to go through.

[@automator24]

I have to disagree with Destin here. He says Sony's purchase of Bungie is one of the smartest things they ever did? No, that would be purchasing Insomniac for 229 million dollars. They paid 3.6 billion for one developer, one IP, no exclusives, and some trade secrets for live service games. Now I'm not saying this is a bad deal, but even Hoeg thinks its a risky deal. We will see in five years, but I wonder if this deal was in the negotiation stages and was finalized after the news on BAK broke. The concessions Sony made here seem pretty insane. Not saying that is what happened, its just a very unique deal. We live in interesting times.

[@DestinL]

You got me there 😂 insomniac is phenomenal

[@PrideOfAries]

Can your Lawyer tell me what your doing with your xbox series x in the background gathering dust.. 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@BIGCHIEFWARD]

I like him. He reminds me of Donny from Frasier

[@abdel1143]

I think Call of Duty will go Xbox exclusive after the deal gets finalized. As per reports and leaks MW2 2022 will be the last Croos-Gen CoD and 2023 will be Next-Gen only. In 2023 we only have around 30/35 million PS5’s sold. Maybe the half or less of all PS5 players buy the new CoD, that would come at around 15 million sales. If MS can lose the Starfield/Elder Scrolls 6 sales they could also lose 15 million PS5 sales for CoD and just make it exclusive.

[@asifcra7839]

Good analysis.

[@wryonion]

Not quite the same as candy crush, but Minecraft is usually the top paid mobile game in the Apple store. So MS definitely has a mobile presence.

[@RaspberryBang]

Would've been nice if you had done this video with IGN, given that IGN, Gamespot and Game Informer all sensationalized the ABK acquisition. It's really sad that individual content creators have done a far better, more honest job of talking about the acquisition than the mainstream entities. And then the people at those media companies get mad when they get called out on their ignorance. They need to do better.

[@crimsonsnow7228]

Journalism is dead. The fact that no one brings up The Embracer group, Tencent or hell even just basic statistic when discussing this matter, proves that not one of them cares about the ethics journalists are supposed to abide by. Not to mention journalists are supposed to serve the people, to give the people the facts no matter how tough it is. But these guys simp for corporations and care nothing about the truth. As someone that studied journalism these people are a disgrace.

[@phhsdj]

Law tube here let’s goooo next he needs to get nick on

[@thegamerguy327]

Don't really think the feds will stop xbox from acquiring Activision.

[@spazco8669]

Hey Destin, As a destiny fan would you sign up to sony's subscription service if included all destiny seasons and dlc? Sony could offer all content from their upcoming live service games as part of their subscription (released on pc too) and it would be a good deal even without any other games or any day one releases. imagine if spartacus included all fortnight battle passes, all destiny content and passes, final fantasy subscription, and all seasons and content from their upcoming live service games. Microsoft could do the same with cod and double their gamepass numbers overnight.

[@DestinL]

I would probably sign up but not for Destiny stuff because I play on PC

[@tiannam117]

Waiting for a Brad Sams colab

[@Khakimzhan]

At last we can see Hoeg’s face

[@PC-Principal]

A destiny style game in the Resistance universe? Take my 401k!

[@magnusmadkrantz147]

Come 2024. All CoD contracts are Up. Let's se what happenes After that. I think CoD would be exclusive to Xbox Eco system.

[@isaiahjackson1211]

Nice, been waiting for a legally literate person

[@anwarmerdas]

Thank you

[@ImmortalSausage]

Finally, you pronounce his name correctly.

[@craigbarker5180]

Microsoft plans to keep making some of Activision’s games for PlayStation consoles but will also keep some content exclusive to Xbox, said a person familiar with the company’s thinking

[@eternalsovereign8278]

Sorry; Warframe is way more popular and profitable than Destiny. Also, how have you not figured out why Sony agreed to Bungie's terms? 1. Sony was looking to get back into the news cycle. 2.They only bought 1 developer with 1 game series. They'd be losing half or more profit if they made Bungie exclusive from microtransactional loss and would also lose as much current player count, which matters in online games. If Destiny were a single player game, Sony _would_ have demanded it be exclusive as part of the deal, or they would have passed.

[@343Epsilon]

I would disagree. I would argue that Sony buying Bungie has nothing to do with their games and has nothing to do with Microsoft. It's just very coincidental that these acquisitions are happening at the same time. Let's put things into perspective. On Bungie's side, they've stated repeatedly their desire to expand the Destiny IP (and their other unannounced IP) outside of the games and into movies, shows and such. Hmm, Sony is very good at making movies, shows and such. On the other side, Sony is a big player in that sort of content space. But here's the rub: they're pretty much the only big player without a mainstream streaming service of their own (not counting Crunchyroll and Funimation). All of their main competitors do (Disney, Warner Bros, NBCUniversal, Viacom). You bet your ass they're cooking something up to answer for that. They need content for that service. Bungie wants to make that sort of content. In this context, this acquisition makes complete sense. Playstation didn't acquire Bungie. SONY did

[@eternalsovereign8278]

@@343Epsilon You're right, we do disagree. First off, you are giving an opinion for why _Bungie_ Sold themselves to Sony. None of what you're saying is in rebuttal to my post because you're talking about something totally different. My opinion was why _SONY_ accepted Bungie's terms of autonomy. I never even mention PS directly, only Sony. Your point would only make sense as a separate post. You can't refute a viewpoint by changing the subject matter. 2nd: Sony movies suck. Their only big deal is Spider-Man and the only reason that's been better than past iterations is because all of the recent entries have been in collaboration directly with Marvel Studios. Before that, Spider-Man movies made money solely on name recognition only, so if Sony is "cooking up" a potential streaming service in an already saturated market, you can bet your ass it will fail because no Destiny anime or live action series is going to keep it afloat and they're horrible at what they're already doing. (I still find it highly disrespectful that they cast 2 Brits for the role of Iconic American Super/Anti-Heroes and that goes for all examples of this as well as gender and race reversals, but I digress) 3rd: The fact that Sony would agree to a deal that gives them no final say in Bungie's decisions or creative process, makes this deal more akin to a partnership _and a buyout on paper alone_. That right there is enough to read into this as a major publicity stunt. Even if you believe Sony's claim that they are seeking to build online games in the future with Bungie's expertise; that would be a massively uninformed decision on their part and their own player base would prove them wrong. PS gamers prefer single player narratives over co-op. My opinion has always been that PS gamers are largely anti-social (of which I am personally, but able to overcome when gaming, due to anonymity and only having to engage within the confines of a game). You could have 200 ppl on your PS friends list and rarely see anyone that's playing an online game in party chat at any given time. It's like pulling teeth trying to get ppl to join a party and communicate when needed in an online game on PS and the exact opposite on PC or Xbox _so_ Sony is either lying to us, themselves or both with that excuse. PS still hasn't come up with a comparable answer to Xbox's LOOKING FOR GROUP feature 2 gens later, so I won't hold my breath that they can succeed in the online market.

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He looks smart, he looks like Dexter Laboratory

[@zerocool5238]

HOEGs been getting the hours in since the Activision announcement

[@chrism9165]

Can Xbox point out Sony had zero interest in subscription gaming? Sony themselves have said they will not have a gamepass of their own.

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@@Ryan-yi5ro I agree but I would use their words against them they didn’t believe they fell to far behind that’s on them!

[@Me-tp6ll]

Xbox making online Free Soon Lets Go! No more Xbox live gold!

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that would be sweet.