XC Vs Downcountry | What Is The Difference?

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@ftrujillomunizaga
@ftrujillomunizaga Жыл бұрын
I've been doing down country my whole life, for me XC is really about racing and time focus, DC is what 90% of hardtail riders have been doing to have fun on our less expensive bikes.
@prosnazzy
@prosnazzy Жыл бұрын
Life was much simpler when I 1st started 30 odd years ago when you had a road bike and a mountain bike! It's not like you can change bikes mid ride! A downhill bike for the downs etc. They are all just bikes that you ride everywhere to get to and from where you want. The rest is very good marketing, but everybody buys what and rides what they want and where they want, and that makes me happy!! 😊
@kevinross7565
@kevinross7565 Жыл бұрын
I bought I Giant Anthem a few years back. I swapped out the cockpit with a dropper, different saddle, 60mm stem and an aggressive trail oriented tire on the front. The bike went from being a straight up xc race bike, to a nice short travel trail bike by simply swapping a few parts. So yeah there is a difference, but I would say the difference is negatable.
@jimrutherford2773
@jimrutherford2773 Жыл бұрын
In elite pro XC racing whomever designs the courses, sets the trend as to what bike will be ridden. The courses have gotten much more technical so the riders will respond by choosing bikes with a little more suspension. The courses today are so much different than they were 10 years ago. Even on my local trails the trail maintenance crews have allowed the trails to become more technical. Ten years ago the average guy riding the trail bike is now riding an enduro.
@kyleslater5245
@kyleslater5245 Жыл бұрын
It can be explained real simple like… levy can’t keep his mouth shut… that’s still the best reason for a category ever.
@ghostdog6471
@ghostdog6471 Жыл бұрын
That's why I love my scott spark rc pro, because it has a bit of both worlds in it🌎 😊. I'm simply amazed by the engineering team behind this.
@krisqz
@krisqz Жыл бұрын
Just bought Oiz H20. It feels like a bike I can do everything on. Love it!
@andrewsiasparks
@andrewsiasparks Жыл бұрын
I remember in the early/mid 2000s you could get hardcore xc bikes. I had a Brodie omega with 140mm fork a gt aggressor with 100-140 and a giant Boulder with 100-140 mm
@DirtlovR
@DirtlovR Жыл бұрын
Don't you guys think making a new category for a slightly changed bike isn't a good trend? I mean we're getting to a point where a slight change to geometry and suspension means a different category of bike.
@rchydrozz751
@rchydrozz751 Жыл бұрын
Its all about making money. Making you have more than one bike. Well, who has just one anyway.
@rottieshepcalibre9156
@rottieshepcalibre9156 Жыл бұрын
Anna on a Sunday 😊
@jonbrown1371
@jonbrown1371 Жыл бұрын
I'm on a Polygon D7 down country bike. I live in Fruita, and this bike gets me up easy & rips on the downs. Only thing I avoid is some of the Enduro level drops.
@TC_Prof
@TC_Prof Жыл бұрын
Same bike Jon love it 🙏
@satchmotionrc8202
@satchmotionrc8202 Жыл бұрын
Hardtail cross country with a dropper. 👍
@theymademepickaname1248
@theymademepickaname1248 Жыл бұрын
Fun, fast, affordable, low maintenance, versatile, etc.
@the_spanner_ch7mp
@the_spanner_ch7mp Жыл бұрын
If/when 😉 i get a full sus bike it will definetly be a Downcountry one. Great explanation of the difference between the to bikes Anna. Great stuff #GMBNTech
@MissionX5
@MissionX5 Жыл бұрын
Yes I think there is. I just bought a Ripley to XC race this year. I been riding a DV9 . I know I am hoping that the full suspension will make up for my lack of skills in the ruff areas where I lose a lot of speed.
@elmerreyes8985
@elmerreyes8985 Жыл бұрын
The difference may be small when it comes to the measurements but will definitely feel the difference when riding.
@winklertribe5268
@winklertribe5268 Жыл бұрын
This was a very enlightening video…Thank you!
@gmbntech
@gmbntech Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! We really appreciate the support!
@hanstubben
@hanstubben Жыл бұрын
Have a Niner RKT9RDO with 120 mm fork since 2018. By far the best bike purchase decision I have made. If you are not a racer, but ride the bike to have fun, then a true bred XC isn´t for you, go down-country and be happy.
@edmundhodgson2572
@edmundhodgson2572 Жыл бұрын
Good work Anna. My local is Thetford forest, Here a "downcountry" bike is Just a trail bike, there are no downs!🤭
@gmbntech
@gmbntech Жыл бұрын
Hey Edmund! Thanks so much for the support!
@mistermoore5784
@mistermoore5784 Жыл бұрын
3:55 "Now, back in the early Naughties, when I started racing..." Tell us more!!!!
@samblenkharn8099
@samblenkharn8099 Жыл бұрын
Mister Moore it's all here kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJ2VqZqVqdlnbbc
@Anto_Levo_Mtb
@Anto_Levo_Mtb Жыл бұрын
Have an Oiz H10 Tr, love it. Does everything.
@edward1591
@edward1591 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Vitus Rapide FS a year ago and it's been just brilliant. Light, fast - only 100mm each end but with slacker, more stable geometry and easier to live with than pure XC. For me it's been the perfect compromise and I suspect that for most of us outside a bike park a Downcountry is a good bet.
@patrickh4540
@patrickh4540 Жыл бұрын
New video with Anna. I'm watching.
@gmbntech
@gmbntech Жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoyed Patrick! 🙌
@Mr229357
@Mr229357 Жыл бұрын
XC bike 😊👍🏻👍🏻
@gmbntech
@gmbntech Жыл бұрын
All the way!
@ulukai_555
@ulukai_555 Жыл бұрын
As we say in french, thoses marketing people are touching themselves the noodle.
@myfrequencies1912
@myfrequencies1912 Жыл бұрын
Lol.
@nakitojimo2001
@nakitojimo2001 Жыл бұрын
Just brought Patrol 094 hardtail down-country 29er with 130mm fork . Climb like an XC n shreds like a trail!
@markday1714
@markday1714 Жыл бұрын
very informative. thanks
@gmbntech
@gmbntech Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
@zaedbinaziz
@zaedbinaziz Жыл бұрын
I'm riding a Trek Supercaliber 9.8 XT. This video makes me want to try a Down Country bike!
@aldrinclementina4297
@aldrinclementina4297 Ай бұрын
Hi GMBN Tech. I’m looking for something to do some local trails. I’m more a roadie but do hit some trails. We do XC here but there are some technical descents that’s scares me at the moment. Why cuz I’m still doing them on a 26” ( Giant XTC 3). Old not modern geometry for sure. I’m looking forward to switch to an 29” but is a 100 mm travel enough to bring that confidence back or it’s better go for a 120 mm Mtb? Thanks. I hope you guys read this comment
@Stickybutton
@Stickybutton Жыл бұрын
The comparison should be short travel trail vs long travel trail. Seems like 120mm rear are now labeled as Downcounty but I feel they ride more like trail bikes nowadays.
@padyakeroUK
@padyakeroUK Жыл бұрын
definitely down country for me🤘🏻
@gmbntech
@gmbntech Жыл бұрын
Better than riding uphill! 😉
@RomanMoroniesFargingWall
@RomanMoroniesFargingWall Жыл бұрын
MTBs are doing the same thing as the auto industry. Bikes keep getting bigger so they make new categories for the new "small" stuff that's the same size as the old stuff. CUVs are getting to the same size and shape as hatchbacks just lifted a bit. Don't call them hatchbacks, though.
@MidlifeMTBdude
@MidlifeMTBdude Жыл бұрын
What is going on with mountain biking! When did things become so complex. Oh yeah, I get it…..marketing driven not biker drive . Most people don’t need any of these distinctions, just a bike that does what they want it to do as well as it can. Let’s face it we all cycle up as well as down and want to do both as fast as possible!
@ondrejmanych5688
@ondrejmanych5688 Жыл бұрын
So is a classic XC bike UpCountry?
@gmbntech
@gmbntech Жыл бұрын
You could say that! 😂
@RedDaemon69420
@RedDaemon69420 Жыл бұрын
Downcountry is a bit of a vague term in marketing these days. Some of them such as the specialised epic evo are more of a "high travel XC" and others such as the polygon siskiu D are more of a "low travel trail bike" . It can be tricky to tell which side of "downcountry" you are on without giving the bike a ride as the numbers can be subtly different or even similar. I suspect the main difference would be geo and linkage/frame design.
@puka6043
@puka6043 Жыл бұрын
Cmon, you cant drop some "polygon siskiu d" which is only the budget version of trail bike. From my point of view the low travel trail bike is Canyon Spectral 125, for Downcountry bike Cannondale Scalpel SE. You can see the difference on the first sight even though it's only 5mm of travel. Linkage/frame design is also irrelevant since most of the bikes use the 4-bar pivot or VPP.
@Dlawler
@Dlawler Жыл бұрын
​@puka the D in Polygon Siskiu, literally stands for Downcountry
@puka6043
@puka6043 Жыл бұрын
@@Dlawler "Frame":ALX XC TRAIL FRAME Even they doesn't know what they're selling.
@markusilomaki8922
@markusilomaki8922 Жыл бұрын
Subtle differences is right 😊 one brands downcountry is another brands crosscountry 😂
@markusilomaki8922
@markusilomaki8922 Жыл бұрын
So based on this video you can make any crosscountry bike a downcountry bike! Just change out the wheelset, cockpit, airspring in your fork and add a dropper and you have yourself a downcountry bike 😊
@I_Am_Bone
@I_Am_Bone Жыл бұрын
I'm riding a Marin Pine Mountain and all your geo points would suggest it's a down-country bike. It has more braze-ons than I can count, has 120mm fork, and is a hard-tail with 29"x2.6" Coming from cheaper big-box bikes I am still amazed at the massive differences riding a quality bike of the right size. It is massive compared to my previous bike that was the largest in the store.
@ondrejmanych5688
@ondrejmanych5688 Жыл бұрын
Pine Mountain isnt XC at all, more of a bikepacking/mountain rig. It is not designed to be fast, at least all the reviews suggest it is kinda sluggish. But it definitely rides great, if you arent a racer (lets be honest, almost nobody is)
@jaymargarcia8544
@jaymargarcia8544 Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on rigid mountain bikes/gravel mtb/criterium mtb?
@X41N3
@X41N3 Жыл бұрын
My next bike is probably downcountry..or something in between oldschool xc. Currently I have a 2010 era xc bike with adjustable ritchey mtb stem. It's super playful and a lot more comfortable...I just sometimes hit my knees against the handlebar in supertight corners and when I'm putting too much force in the pedal when climbing slippery stuff.. But...I'm rly interested in dirtjumpers with gears as well cause I used to be a skateboarder and whenever you see a jump..you know the feeling
@RYADADEV
@RYADADEV 6 ай бұрын
Hi Anna! Im wondering how tall are you? And what size Canyon do you ride? Im asking because I believe we are the same height (5'5" 31 inseam) and Im about to buy a Canyon bike
@codyswartz997
@codyswartz997 8 ай бұрын
Down country is just a term for an XC bike most people can ride on all trails. All mountain but less suspension. I’d like to see ibis make the exie 120mm rear. Flex stay is nice but to me daul pivot would be better for DC
@kaltonian
@kaltonian Жыл бұрын
intresting......., myself i love a bit of everything, in the late 80's & early 90's i would ride trails, go down mountains, but not fast as they would be technical decents were you would be leaning right back & be using the brakes constantly...& to be fair my riding style after a 20 year gap of road racing & now back on mtb's hasn't changed, so all these different models was an eye opener, but it's still hard to choose
@frienduro24
@frienduro24 Жыл бұрын
An XC race bike has less travel and remote suspension lock outs. A DC has slighter more travel without lock outs.
@markas85
@markas85 7 ай бұрын
You mention rim width in millimeters but tire width in inches? Is that normal?
@jaycarneygiants
@jaycarneygiants Жыл бұрын
It should be called a "Trailcross" bike not "downcountry". Downcoutry implies a mix of cross country and downhill and there is already a name for that (Enduro)
@myfrequencies1912
@myfrequencies1912 Жыл бұрын
Yet another new niche discovered!
@westbrookwellness4366
@westbrookwellness4366 Жыл бұрын
Please comparison ride a Fox 32 SC Vs a Fox 34 SC
@treyhorn5645
@treyhorn5645 Жыл бұрын
Xc and road. All the way
@gmbntech
@gmbntech Жыл бұрын
Maybe not the road bit. 😅😉
@TC_Prof
@TC_Prof Жыл бұрын
Using polygon D7 with 120 travel 😊
@Velo1010
@Velo1010 Жыл бұрын
Not relative to this video, but why are the big riding glasses coming back? These were popular in the 80’s to late 90’s. It interesting how styles repeat themselves.
@tomassanesson902
@tomassanesson902 Жыл бұрын
Awesome cool beautiful bike
@geoffreyfletcher-chef
@geoffreyfletcher-chef Жыл бұрын
I think the strangest bike category is 'trail'. Yo! Isn't all mountain biking done on trails?
@ravennexusmh
@ravennexusmh Жыл бұрын
So that's a trail bike that. It even says it in the name. 😂😂
@myfrequencies1912
@myfrequencies1912 Жыл бұрын
Well to qualify as a true downcountry bike it must have a 2x drivetrain. Typical 1x's top out at what, 32kmh?
@ahmedrais1994
@ahmedrais1994 3 ай бұрын
bmc❤
@ataraxia4526
@ataraxia4526 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the differences between XC and downcountry are similar to the differences between cyclocross and gravel bikes.
@Blunt33bdx
@Blunt33bdx Ай бұрын
In a year and a half things have evolved even more - modern cross country bikes like the Orbea Oiz tested on the chanel is full sus and 120 mil frony/rear. but still very stiff and fast. The border between modern cross country and down country is almost non existant now...
@islarun4103
@islarun4103 Жыл бұрын
Marathon
@heavyfuzz9675
@heavyfuzz9675 Жыл бұрын
Its a funny trail bike that’s what it is.
@arboristknots2220
@arboristknots2220 Жыл бұрын
So basically its a re-termed All Mountain Bike. Remember those?
@robertthomason7619
@robertthomason7619 Жыл бұрын
Halfmountain: between trail and All Mountain. Allduro: Bit more than All Mountain not quite full Enduro Downduro: Yeah you get it 👌 -SMH-
@1969Escobar
@1969Escobar Жыл бұрын
Anna, so a DC is a short travel trail "try to be light" bike, LOL Cheers
@ProfeTa6
@ProfeTa6 Жыл бұрын
A downcontry bike is more conformable, more confidence inspiring, better if you are not going for all-out speed, fighting for podiums, going for long distance riding etc. So a Trail bike? Call me old but all this categorization is needless and getting downright annoying just so brands can sell their newest model.
@tb4326
@tb4326 Жыл бұрын
Now, what’s the difference between a Downcountry to an All-Mountain or to an Trail bike? Marketing?
@Sixbillion1
@Sixbillion1 Жыл бұрын
you mean a downcountry isnt just a full sus cross country bike? honestly sometimes it just all feels like marketing stuff. add another sub genre of bikes to sell. ill probably get crucified for that comment lol
@myfrequencies1912
@myfrequencies1912 Жыл бұрын
I've got a hardtail downcountry bike.
@senorh1272
@senorh1272 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't see a "game changed" features on a downcountry vs xc. Even if you buy a xc bike and put 120mm, 130m new tires, you can have a "super duper downcountry" .
@mchereja
@mchereja Жыл бұрын
Downcountry bile = Trail bike. Easy.
@doubleL_S
@doubleL_S Жыл бұрын
No there is not. A normal person will get on both bikes and be like oh its a just a bike. These marketing things are ridiculous. Any bike for a 1000 quid will be a good one so guys go out there and get the best frame for you. Doesn't matter about componates you won't tell the diff between a 500 quid one and a 50 quid one. Don't let them sell you stuff you don't need
@TheyForcedMyHandLE
@TheyForcedMyHandLE Жыл бұрын
Get on a legit XC bike and oh there's a difference. I've had some short travel 120mm trail bikes and they were no XC bike. A lot of that can likely be attributed to tires and weight though.
@joshuaallswang8016
@joshuaallswang8016 Жыл бұрын
@@TheyForcedMyHandLE he said the average person or “Non mountain biker” which is like 98% of the population. To the Non mountain Biker the only difference they will see is the pretty colors and fancy looking parts on the more expensive bikes. Only the experienced mountain biker could tell the miner differences in components with a $1000+ difference in price tag, It’s all one BIG scam. Still.. the sport itself is badass💯
@vladimirmikusik4786
@vladimirmikusik4786 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuaallswang8016 Is not true. I'm now searching for new bike in this travel category. So I was on bike test event and tested three bikes in similar price point and you I can feel differences based on geometry and suspension design. I don't care if bike is Deore or XT components, if it is half kilo heavier, but bike must fit me and I must feel good on it.
@doubleL_S
@doubleL_S Жыл бұрын
@TheyForcedMyHandLE she was talking xc vs down country. Basically people who call xc riding down country is an absolute loser 🤣
@doubleL_S
@doubleL_S Жыл бұрын
@joshuaallswang8016 for a scam. Sport is still amazing of course. Just don't buy anything at ridiculous prices is what I say. Don't line other people pockets.
@thephoenixcycle8854
@thephoenixcycle8854 Жыл бұрын
XC bikes have have big, voluminous tires these days. Those ancient 1.9-2.1 tires are long gone. Only weigh weenie turkeys want those narrowass tires.
@skylarjohnson212
@skylarjohnson212 Жыл бұрын
This is just more unnecessary marketing. Just buy a bike that fits you and the terrain you like to ride. Don’t get so caught up in the marketing labels. A trail bike is more than capable of handling descending and climbing, just lock out your suspension. Same with xc bikes, if you can’t handle going downhill on one it’s a skill issue, not a bike issue. You don’t need to change your bike every couple years. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it (or in this case replace it).
@dvxShoeN
@dvxShoeN Жыл бұрын
Buy a xc Bike, Change fork travel fromm 100 too120mm, buy slightly bigger tyres and u got a down country Bike in under one hour
@KPOPIVESTEVE
@KPOPIVESTEVE Жыл бұрын
Downcountry
@TRUONGSPORT
@TRUONGSPORT Жыл бұрын
It went together easily in less than an hour. kzbin.infoUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
@akhilmathew3639
@akhilmathew3639 Жыл бұрын
Im just country
@brianrainey2739
@brianrainey2739 Жыл бұрын
Did Anna just describe 1000 pounds as a BIT of savings? Where I am from $1600 is a LOT of savings! 😄
@michaelb9664
@michaelb9664 Жыл бұрын
I always thought I was XC - but it turns out I’m actually gravel. I’m sorry but DC is just marketing twaddle for a trail bike.
@Blunt33bdx
@Blunt33bdx Ай бұрын
and gravel isn't a marketing thing ?!
@michaelb9664
@michaelb9664 Ай бұрын
no it isn’t.
@saxon1376
@saxon1376 Жыл бұрын
Yea you pay more for a name ?
@hslayrex
@hslayrex Жыл бұрын
She got the head angles swapped. 68-70 on the DC is the slacker option.
@SteveSUX2BU
@SteveSUX2BU Жыл бұрын
Trail bike. It's just a rebranded trail bike.
@fredclements5474
@fredclements5474 Жыл бұрын
you're too short for 29" luv
@shawnpritchard366
@shawnpritchard366 Жыл бұрын
All too much faff. I'll stick a rigid single speed. Thank you.
@jonm7272
@jonm7272 Жыл бұрын
Single speed? What a faff, I'm going to stick to scooting along on my balance bike with solid tyres 😅
@Bianchiboy
@Bianchiboy Жыл бұрын
Hey manufacturers, I’ve invented a new term for a type of bike... get in touch and we can discuss £££ and you can start floggin’ the same old bikes but with a brand new name
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