XCX Diskbomb Mastema

[@Zeto.]

this popped up in my recommendations and brought back pleasant memories of rolling everything with a diskbomb lailah and blossom dance shenanigans :) i think i spent roughly 700h or so just farming shit in xcx... good stuff man :D

[@Rhuanjl]

Thanks for the comment, brings back memories.... Though in hindsight.... including Nardacyon and Gradivus in this video may have been a mistake they took soooo long to kill (compared to everything else).

[@Mr._Sherwood]

Stuff like this reminds me that despite how genuinely tough XCX is, it's really easy to just snap it over your knee if you're willing to invest in dedicated builds or abuse exploits like what this one does. Because isn't it based on how magazine capacity augments buff how many hits each diskbomb does instead of how many diskbombs you can fire before the cooldown kicks in? That and having the augments on another diskbomb negates the damage penalty. And evidently it just breaks the entire game in half.

[@Rhuanjl]

Yes and no - as far as I'm aware this setup can't be done particularly efficiently until the late/post-game and making this OP take a fairly high level of farming. Though there are other strategies for breaking the game earlier e.g. it's possible to do infinite overdrive on foot at level ~30 on chapter 6 with almost no farming - that's a key way to break the main game - though it takes some understanding and practise to make it work.

[@CosmicVoid_119]

Gonna need this next year

[@Rhuanjl]

They may fix the glitch that made this OP.

[@ZetCipher]

diskbomb master race

[@Rhuanjl]

Lol - not quite sure what you mean by that but it sounds cool.

[@Nox_Lunatera]

master race is a meme from Dr.Who, usually referring to doing or using or being one thing and hating the alternative like pc master race refers to hating consoles for gaming and only liking pc.

[@bluemujika]

A tutorial please! Teach us Sensei! How do you go about this Skell Build

[@Rhuanjl]

1. Frame is a mastema white reaper 2. Armour is from the Amdusias Hades (for AttributeDmg.THERM), upgrade that trait to XXon all 5 pieces of armour 3. left sidearm is diskbomb with the trait m-msl mag upgraded to max 4. right side arm is a diskbomb WITHOUT the m-msl mag trait (this is the one you attack with, having the trait on the left and NOT the right is key due to an odd glitch, if the right one has the trait you'll do a lot less damage, same if the left one doesn't have the trait) 5. every other weapon is chosen for ideally 2 relevant traits (AttributeDmg.THERM or SpecUp.R-ATK mostly) 6. 3 Custom.WP-Speed XX augments on the right diskbomb (this shrinks the time between attacks, you could put Custom.WP-ATK XX here instead if your aim is to one shot everything, will increase your damage per hit quite a bit but longer gaps between attacks) 7. 2 SpecUp.R-Acc XX augments (not always needed, and if you have a lot of Acc traits on your other weapons may not need these) 8. 1 Neg.reflect Therm XX (don't always need this but you do for some fights) 9. 24 SpecUp.R-ATK XX augments (you can have less but you'll do less damage obviously) 10. 3 AttributeDmg.THERM XX augments on the frame 11. put whatever resistances are most relevant for each fight in your armour slots (only need these for superbosses + gradivus + anything with a 1 shot spike as everything else dies before attacking) 12. I also set max resistances and ranged attack probes for each fight - not really needed but make things smoother

[@Rhuanjl]

I note it's meant to be a lot easier to kill superbosses with a Lailah than with this build - this build is really optimised for fast killing of anything below superboss level without ever using up your fuel.

[@bluemujika]

Thank you, I really appreciate this.

[@ProfessorHeavy1]

Pleeease. Pleeeeeeease let this be untouched.

[@Rhuanjl]

Personally I always preferred ground gear kills; though this "trick" was unparalleled for farming high end gear. I can't imagine re-doing the farming I did in the original game though - I don't have 1000 hours to put into this (or any game) again.

[@zigludo]

this is art

[@Rhuanjl]

thanks

[@TKizaru]

not enough damage push your ranged attack over 8000 and get yourself a ranged attack boost shield

[@Rhuanjl]

I didn't use any skellware so yeah could obviously take it higher. But I thought it did the job....

[@StarShade0]

"Come, Nardacyon! Let's settle this in our Skells." - Nahum, the Red Hare Those were Nahum's famous last words before being torn to shreds by glitch-bombs. I have to ask, why were you not switching between diskboms while one was on cooldown? The cooldown on sidearms doesn't pause if you switch weapons, so why not have even more consistent DPS? Also, were you using skell wear or not?

[@Rhuanjl]

The left diskbomb does a lot less damage (due to the way the glitch works) and with 3 custom.WP-Speed augments the cooldown is so short anyway that it doesn't seem worth it, I may be wrong. I was not using any skell wear.

[@StarShade0]

Rhuanjl Oh right, forgot about the less damage part. But still, it's better than waiting auto-attack intervals I believe. I'll test this for myself.

[@Rhuanjl]

@GAVIN STANWOOD I think you may have misunderstood. There is a glitch and exploiting it drastically improves this skell. Please let me explain again. Firstly - what the msl mag trait is meant to do: 1. increase magazine capacity AND 2. reduce damage per hit Here's the glitch - what the msl mag trait does if put on the LEFT ARM ONLY: 1. increase magazine capacity for left AND right AND 2. Reduce damage per hit for LEFT ONLY If you have msl mag on the right arm you don't get the benefit of the glitch and you'll do a lot less damage.

[@stunned_swallow]

I thought that the best build was the "Mastema White Reaper", with that super-weapon which one-shots everything with physical damage, I never thought that auto-attacks could do this much damage... and I wonder, how?

[@Rhuanjl]

I wrote up the build as a comment replying to the user bluemujika below so take a look there if you want the details - though also note, this was not optimal, a ranged attack shield could make it better - see TKizaru's comment below (and the old videos on his channel)

[@stunned_swallow]

@@Rhuanjl thanks a lot✌️🏻

[@blllyp7369]

All I need to know is can I run a disk bomb build along side a zenith cannon build or am I gonna have to commit

[@Rhuanjl]

If you want to kill things this quickly you have to commit. If you don't mind being less-optimal/having slower/harder fights you can try mixing things up.

[@blllyp7369]

Rhuanjl alright alright as long as I can beat all the tryrants I’m down with a little experimenting

[@Nox_Lunatera]

why not use this with amadusias, it has a ton of therm up buffs on its armor

[@Rhuanjl]

Zero Bahamut this is actually a mastema frame with Amadusias armour swapped onto it - can’t remember if there was a particular reason for that swap

[@forgetmenaught]

Rhuanjl Isn't it because Amdusias is more of a melee fighter? I think the reason for swapping Amdusias armor onto Mastema was because Amdusias was the melee heavy skell while Mastema was the ranged one. This is only used for ranged builds, of course.

[@Nox_Lunatera]

ah i hadnt thought of swapping the amadusia onto mastema, granted it still fucks up everything on my ama. by the way you mentioned lailah earlier? why is that? i generally dont like the light/medium skells because anything with a respectable attack is going to anihillate me.

[@forgetmenaught]

Zero Bahamut IIRC it's for an infinite overdrive evasion build? Lailah is good for infinite overdrive since it has 6000 GP.

[@Nox_Lunatera]

ive never actually experimented with overdrive in the 4 100% runs ive done, i know call me a heretic or crazy, but i never needed it before, granted diskbomb bug here makes killing some postgame bosses infinitely easier (also the level 60 megaflame with this build gives you a great "fuck you" shot to anything that doesnt resist it) perhaps you can tell me how to make an overdrive build? i saw a video the other day with blossom dance, but apparently it uses core crusher which makes it bad for getting rare resources.

[@elecmatic8666]

diskbomb is OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@AngelGarcia-pc6zr]

Definitely

[@deathasuna8909]

How many ammo do those diskbombs have

[@Rhuanjl]

Sorry Id din't reply sooner. One of them has a Custom-Msl-Mag as a trait that I've upgraded to whatever level you can upgrade it to. I'm taking advantage of a known glitch in the game where the ammo boosting effect of Custom-Msl-Mag on one diskbomb is copied to the other diskbomb.

[@deathasuna8909]

I know the trait but when I maxed it out it doesn't look like it has nearly as much ammo

[@Biovirulent]

100,000s with diskbombs... what the fuck?

[@Rhuanjl]

Assuming your comment is about the damage being high: It's about getting all the right traits on every piece of gear, upgrading most of them and using all your augment slots to increase damage. If it's about the damage being low: I didn't use skell ware or a ranged attack power up. Step by step for building the skell if wanted (probably more effort than it's worth unless you're obsessed with the game): 1. Frame is a mastema white reaper 2. Armour is from the Amdusias Hades (for AttributeDmg.THERM), upgrade that trait to XX on all 5 pieces of armour 3. left sidearm is diskbomb with the trait m-msl mag upgraded to max 4. right side arm is a diskbomb WITHOUT the m-msl mag trait (this is the one you attack with, having the trait on the left and NOT the right is key due to an odd glitch, if the right one has the trait you'll do a lot less damage, same if the left one doesn't have the trait) 5. every other weapon is chosen for ideally 2 relevant traits (AttributeDmg.THERM or SpecUp.R-ATK mostly) 6. 3 Custom.WP-Speed XX augments on the right diskbomb (this shrinks the time between attacks, you could put Custom.WP-ATK XX here instead if your aim is to one shot everything, will increase your damage per hit quite a bit but longer gaps between attacks) 7. 2 SpecUp.R-Acc XX augments (not always needed, and if you have a lot of Acc traits on your other weapons may not need these) 8. 1 Neg.reflect Therm XX (don't always need this but you do for some fights) 9. 24 SpecUp.R-ATK XX augments (you can have less but you'll do less damage obviously) 10. 3 AttributeDmg.THERM XX augments on the frame 11. put whatever resistances are most relevant for each fight in your armour slots (only need these for superbosses + gradivus + anything with a 1 shot spike as everything else dies before attacking) 12. I also set max resistances and ranged attack probes for each fight - not really needed but make things smoother

[@Biovirulent]

thanks a lot! I have most of this stuff, gonna make the amadusius for the armor now.

[@Rhuanjl]

Enjoy :)

[@Biovirulent]

I got 20,000s coming out now from diskbombs. I have NO idea how to get 100,000 though, I have a ton of ultrafauna slayer xx, 3 ultrafauna crit up xx, full ranged attack drive xx, some ranged attack boost xx, and a whole shit ton of thermal attribute augments. Where do I go from here?

[@Biovirulent]

Hmm... do I need wep attack power up xx on the right diskbombs? that might be my problem... I'm using both diskbombs, spamming the X button, with both having wep speed xx