XDefiant Casuals Are Gone: Now Its OnlySweats

do you think the playerbase numbers going down have a big role in the game feeling more sweaty or more competitive on average? I think the average gamer is better than ever before and also more people play with friends and sweatier players or friend groups tend to compete amongst themselves in terms of performance and tend to play together making it rough especially for solo players (you can still get easy lobbies sometimes it just feels more few and far between than when the game launched...) I think most of the people left are more diehard fans of the game and occasionally you will see a newer player

[@AGNB96]

Used to be you could get drunk with your buddies and enjoy a fps for 6 hours. Now we need pots of coffee and we gotta make call outs as if we're defending our country just to save face and after 4 matches we gotta sleep

[@dartlinfps]

lmaoooo like we're defending our country! I just don't wanna play 4 ppl in a discord while I'm listening to a youtube video and waiting on an uber with no headset on

[@FDx8500]

try out tf2. or the new bf, join a custom server, nice people a really chill experience. private servers are the solution to everything.

[@neetea2]

It isnt 2008 anymore 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@kungfukenny1540]

😂

[@melvinware6955]

lol - too accurate man. Thanks for the laugh!

[@evilmuska]

Honestly man, this is the realest, most down to earth take I've heard on this game yet. Especially the idea of just playing till you start to get mad, and just stopping. I've had that problem where I just keep getting pub stomped by sweats, and just want to win ONE game. Big mistake. Then I lose my shit after a 5-8 game losing streak, put myself in a bad mood, and feel embarrassed that I let the game get to me that much.

[@dartlinfps]

it's like gambling and wanting that 1 last try "its gonna happen next time just 1 more go" it's not worth being mad 20 mins after u log off over some virtual competition prob against 4 ppl in a party together, ppl downplay the value of callouts and coordination and will say skill issue while they never play solo etc...

[@zonzore]

I play only TDM and have fun getting stomped and stomping others. It's just crazy fun. I love to bunny hop and shoot like an idiot

[@FDx8500]

one of the few games i never got mad about losing or anything is TF2. that game is just perfect multiplayer experience, modern games should copy what they have done with that game. and people still plays it today.

[@STELLARMIGHTY]

@@evilmuska you sound like my inner thoughts on day 3 of Xdefiant lol

[@Sabanno]

I think its time for Xdefiant to implement hardcore modes, so everyone get a chance to deal with the fastpace play style. I have a problem ro stay locked one on one, i always seem to miss a lot while engaged. And your right a lot of sweats lately, i come online for an hour or two and leave again.

[@2mmwanno465]

This game is no where near casual

[@RaySparkz]

Not anymore

[@WoodzyM9]

It was the first 2-3 weeks

[@UnholyKaizen]

It's decently casual

[@sp3cialed1]

They claim they don't have sbmm but they definitely have team balancing on high

[@UnholyKaizen]

@@sp3cialed1 people are just better

[@Montagne1234]

This is every game now Battlefield is the only multiplayer game that's still casual

[@Minx717]

Full auto m16s are the craziest thing I’ve run into.

[@dartlinfps]

thats insane I hope to never see this lol smh

[@Chesterreckless]

I thought it was just weird netcode when I'd see that, I was suspicious, but couldn't prove it

[@cashmar8760]

witnessed earlier in a lobby it is TERRIFYING

[@JackDearlove-gy5ot]

Got absolutely slapped by them

[@justinoliveira3063]

I honestly get suspicious that people are stacked if there's multiple really high levels on the same team. Like if there's 2 or 3+ people on a team that are all above lvl 100, I'm gonna assume they're a stack. I usually stick out games, but I'm just gonna start leaving when people are sweating that hard because it's not worth the stress

[@dartlinfps]

I literally play the game sometimes just killing time while waiting on something and I will have a KZbin video playing and I'm in the game without a headset on and I don't really care to play against four people trying their absolute hardest lol, it also doesn't help I'm in the process of getting AC fixed and it feels HORRIBLE in my PC room right now (90° GA weather with a pc just feels bad lol, it's not to the extreme to where it's making my PC run crazy hot but the room can easily get 110 degrees F if i have the pc on a few hrs

[@br8y693]

It's most likely a ranked team getting in pubs for a warm-up. Usually if I get on with the guys I play with in ranked we will do a warm-up game in pubs. Maybe two or three games

[@angrycheetos2112]

Why you stressed lmao It's a game win or lose your playing for enjoyment😁 If your only having fun when your winning you might wanna work on yourself...

[@justinoliveira3063]

@@angrycheetos2112 I mean, different strokes for different folks. I don’t typically find enjoyment from getting absolutely dunked on by people playing like they’re trying to go pro. Therefore, I just leave the game and go find a different lobby where I can sit back and play a normal match. There’s no right or wrong way to play the game, I just get to choose which experience I want to have. That’s the great think about XDefiant

[@angrycheetos2112]

@@justinoliveira3063 yeah forsure. Just a thought. Those games where your being destroyed instead of abandoning your team you could use it as practice. Learn what the "Sweats" are doing and how they playin. Could help idk 👍

[@BlackOpsDan]

This is the reason why I finally quit playing PVP. Honestly, going back to single player FPS games or fighting games is a breath of fresh air.

[@dartlinfps]

I've been enjoying arpg games a lot lately

[@Willardbeans00]

I even went back to playing Watchdogs 1 this week 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@haze9876]

Same here i tried Sniper ghost warrior contracts 2 on ps5 and loved it so much i got the plat.

[@BanzomYouTube]

This isn't just xdefiant anymore. Everyone wants to be a pro player nowadays. That's why I prefer playing single-player games or co-op games now. Multiplayer games are a sweatfest sbmm or not.

[@dartlinfps]

very true, I think gaming has just grown so much

[@kvn95ss]

The attitude on subReddit also reflects this. I’ve started to play the game for fun now. Honestly, TDM is a boon for this game and it’s the only mode worth playing

[@onlyonemag7606]

There is a certain irony about saying their are only sweats left while the background game play has you running around in Echelon with an MP7 slide cancelling everywhere. You've got several variables you're not considering here. Everyone was new at launch so casual players will always do worse than player who can across from other games with similar mechanics like COD. You've got a lot unlocking weapons and learning maps so initially at least there is a skill gap but several weeks in that has now been closed. I'm about as casual as they get and I've been going against players who ran several betas I didn't as it wasn't available on the last gen console. I upgraded for this game so I came into it fresh not know shit about it. I actually took the time to unlock all the weapons and do the challenges. When compare to those that knew the maps going in and only unlocked the meta they've had an advantage for weeks. That isn't the case now though because I'm not hopping corners with no attachment crap anymore so you might lose to me where it was a win at one point. I think what will sink this game is the netcoding issues. Doesn't matter you're skill level feeling a gunfight is out of your control is a problem. Fight it often enough you will walk away from the game. I'm really enjoying it but they need to get a handle on it.

[@dartlinfps]

I have to play good in the gameplay or my words hold no meaning to these teenagers... the netcode REALLY hurt the playerbase and alot of casuals even left bc of that despite most casuals on cod not noticing desync etc (it was just way more extreme over here I think)

[@antheman5156]

@@onlyonemag7606 you ever heard of the saying? “Can’t beat em, join em” yeah if everyone is crimson cdl players then you have to pull out a mp7 to compete

[@onlyonemag7606]

​@@antheman5156 I've heard the saying but how does it apply here? Look at the background footage and fast forward to the scoreboard at 6:47. They are destroying the enemy team, 4 of which are single digit scores without any hill time. Then I look at him running a broken meta playing for kills with minimal OBJ time complaining about how the game is nothing but sweats. I'd counter that with no just look at the game play you used while point out he might be part of the issue being meta reliant.

[@KlngVJames]

@@onlyonemag7606yea but hes a decent player but hes not a great player, nor is he a beast. I do agree with you that he is someone who needs to be on the hill more if he wants to better his playstyle and increase his W/L ratio. Your talking about someone who didnt even strafe not one time in the video. Which is why is whole team is stacked cause the SBMM knows he is decent and that how they pair people up. They knew the qX prince guy top fragging on the other team is the best player in the lobby which is why he has no help. No disrespect to him but you get the point. Yes he is using the mp7 and it is meta but this game is so balanced that in pubs you can run anything and demolish people. Its about the user and not just the guns by themselves. As i said in my comment, people really worry about the wrong things and devs will listen to wrong people just to make all their games worse overall.

[@mariodragos4208]

I wouldn't say all games are sweaty, however because of the current game matchmaking there will always be 1 or 2 actual good players to balance the rest of the average/below average players in the team. That alone can make you feel like the whole team is sweating

[@dartlinfps]

this is true, plus playing parties makes it feel sweatier, ppl downplay the value of callouts and coordination

[@Seth4192]

As a solo this game cab be absolutely brutal man

[@kuula6734]

After the TDM was introduced, I've played only that. Got tired of fighting against the odds alone on objectives.

[@ashwinkoshti9991]

Thanks for putting out the video, appreciate mate, you point on just playing a couple of games when lobbies are sweaty rather spending hrs trying to get it sorted never works as we get more tired and keep playing like a mad man, it gets worse.

[@dartlinfps]

the rage queue is real lol it's like a gambling thing where you have to hit the slot machine 1 more time lol at least on xd it is random compared to call of duty being more manipulated

[@STELLARMIGHTY]

The game got so sweaty I’m not even feeling it no more

[@buscandolaverdad1963]

Totally agree. I myself am a casual player and I dropped out of the game and ended up uninstalling it. Don’t think I will come back to it.

[@softaco3088]

I don't see this issue. All of my lobbies seem pretty random still. I think a lot of people are surprised and caught off guard about the actual skill gap once sbmm is not there to keep them in a safe bubble.

[@dartlinfps]

my only issue is playing vs parties who seem too coordinated, meanwhile my teammates are vaping in the back of the map

[@neetea2]

Most of yall saying this arent that good smh lmao

[@softaco3088]

@@dartlinfps yeah the playing vs parties is tough sometimes.

[@softaco3088]

Good enough to not notice the sbmm bubble. ;)

[@morganhighfield5313]

That's just how gaming is nowadays, there's casuals yes but a lot of gamers in this day and age are either people sweating TTVs with soulless expressions on their faces or just people taking pubs too seriously. Not hating on them trying to win but it just seems like everyone wants to be a pub stomper or streamer now unlike in the early 2000's where that archetype of player was rare to come by. Regardless of SBMM being in the game or not, it'll still be sweaty because of the genre and audience the game advertises to. Which is the Call of Duty fanbase and arena shooter fans from all over, like- not trying to call people out or anything but a lot of people who complain about people sweating are the same individuals who use intel suit, ACRs, and Mp7s. I've seen multiple times in lobbies where I'm just chilling with my brain off sniping and some echelon using something tame like a mp5 switches to an mp7 or ACR out of retaliation. Going back to the first point, just how pvp gaming is nowadays. The lobby balancing is all about skill rating anyway, so if your rating is above 3k then fully expect to carry noobs and go against sweats. Although, what keeps me playing the game is the variety of lobbies I get. The only ones I back out on is Echelon HQ because that map sucks imo.

[@dartlinfps]

I think it being more mainstream has increased this plus u r right, avg kid in china wants to be an astronaut, avg kid in usa wants to be a social media influencer lol

[@SatxrnWins]

This was inevitable😂. How did yall NOT see this coming?

[@JaMaL-mp1bu]

I'm having 2 problems with this game 1- the time it takes to join a game it's killing me 2- that dam delta error i get frequently kills the fun for me if anyone knows a fix for ps5 pls

[@FearofGod123]

Yeah I most definitely uninstalled this game and haven't looked back it's obvious that majority of the time you'll only encounter sweats in parties together each gun fight it's me vs 2-3 players when I spot 1

[@dartlinfps]

the ppl who hate this video are in parties together so they don't know what it is like or they play solo once in a blue moon so they have a bias...just like I have a biased opinion as somebody who only plays by myself... ppl understate how powerful teammates using microphones is lol if I went into every lobby saying "mic check mic check" ppl would most def tell me to shutup if I tried to encourage randoms to use mics

[@NicoPezzotti712]

The "problem" is that people want to relax in a PvP game. Take Tekken for example: 1v1, me and you, better player wins. The same can be applied to FPS games: Team vs Team, better team wins. People seems to never think about that and PRETEND to join a PvP game and relax. Players want to win, and will do everything in order to do so. The argument "back in the day" doesn't make sense because i can assure you on Unreal Tournament there were no free wins (and it had no sbmm because of the server system), and i remember CoD was sweaty even back than but probably most people didn't care much to speak about it.

[@dartlinfps]

true, I guess there really isn't any chilling in pvp unless u maybe are brainlessly grinding weapon lvls without headset on or something in which case I guess there's no point in caring about results

[@tsyuko7098]

Yeah, for me it happened like day after season. I was doing very well before and now I barely hold 1kd in matches. I dont know if they lost like 80% of playerbase instantly or if its something else, tied to frozen stats and team balancing for example. Seasons usualy bring people back, not lose them. But this one is the most broken one Ive ever seen in videogames. 0 problems in preseason and now game is crashing(even after patch and DX12 off), CPU overheating if DX12 is turned on (ryzen 7800x3d 81temps is crazy), abilities bugging (sometimes its not used, sometimes it greys out), spiderbot is even more annoying, my netcode/hitreg is worse than ever before - and I never had noticable issues except few deaths behind corner, profile stats are frozen in time from patch day and I am suspicious that it influences team balancing because it got worse too. They either broke the game so much that everybody quit after S1 or they broke something in matchmaker too.

[@dartlinfps]

I think they lost a lot of players to the netcode etc the parties on enemy teams is what irritates me the most

[@zacharyzapplesauce]

Time of day and which days you play have a huge effect I’ve noticed. I actually uninstalled Sunday night because it felt just like cod eomm with how I was getting wrecked. Redownloaded Monday because I’m weak and it’s been pretty solid all week, I was just out of practice from not playing for a few weeks lmao.

[@rosslennox9247]

Awesome video bro ! , now I’m a pretty high rank im level 160 / 2.0k/d and I feel after season 1 dropped this game became insanely sweaty! , now I usually play in stacks as playing solo makes me mad because my team are always garbage or not giving a Damn about the objectives.

[@honestlynate7922]

The first decendant is where I’ve found myself lately

[@Extirpo]

Nice video thx. Im casual PS5 EU player, typically 2 hours most evenings, going ofr camos (slowly). Playing only console. I agree stacks is a problem (it should me clearly marked in lobby if stacks are playing). When team balancing you will end up with the short stick if you are above average. Pair that with sometimes sub par hit detect and it can be frustrating. Thats why I play manly TDM. Stacks are fewer and I can “mind my own business”, holding my own. Honestly I like the game overall, its fresh air after 5 years of absurd COD sbmm, and it will be better overtime.

[@dartlinfps]

the amount of ppl saying skill issue that are ironically the players in parties is funny

[@glockmcpew]

100% agree with this video. I play solo and it's not as fun anymore. I've been playing a few matches of XD and then moving to MW3.

[@markomlikotic6673]

I agree man, i deleted it a month ago. For a casual gamer.. it just got me frustated. Have fun sweats!!!👋

[@fortnitemaster7815]

Whenever I see a player with a level of 150 or 200 I just back immediately cause I just know that their obviously sweats that will ruin my experience on trying to leveling up the snipers which will be really difficult for me when ever I see them hopping mad like their Peter Cottontail delivering eggs. It would be nice to have the option to remove the scope to make it some what easier for you to get up close and personal with them or just tone down the SBMM some how even though Mark said that there’s none of that in the game

[@tarantularamblings3149]

I am a casual almost always bottom of the leader board but I still love the game because no sbmm so at least I can really tell if I am having a good game or playing well . No more top of the leader board one match then bottom the next like on cod .

[@dartlinfps]

I love the game too, I only really get annoyed when I can tell the enemy team is partied up

[@user-tr8jo6dn1v]

Everything you said is facts brother man..play the game don't let the game play you.

[@InvestingByFranklin]

I can’t relax and play this game. I have to sit up and focus in order to have a slim chance at winning.

[@dartlinfps]

same lol but I play keyboard and mouse so posture is a bit more important, that said the team balancing makes it rough when you're trying to chill and use a new gun and the game expects you to carry 4 randoms while the enemy team is clearly in a party

[@slof69]

sniper, mp7, spider, firebomb this is the game

[@dartlinfps]

firebomb isn't too bad but BOY does it piss you off when you have them beat and they just beat you with a single button press lol

[@slof69]

i think its more of a m/k issue since cleaners are more used for dps thresholds with headshots n stuff

[@passo]

These comments don't understand that only seeing sweats now with 0 sbmm legit just means the game died.

[@dartlinfps]

exactly...and they think I'm personally complaining rather than posing questions and trying to have a discussion lol

[@VAIBHAVMALHOTRA19]

I was also thinking the same. Things are worse here on Asian servers because I get matched up against those same 30 or 40 players and most of them play this game like they’re proving the people that they’re the best in the world.

[@smalemans007]

Nvr had this issue i come against some duo players that play togheter sometimes i die some times i get them both i dont think every match is sweaty i see allot of people just camping since tdm came out

[@dartlinfps]

I had a match last night against 4 lvl 130+ and they were all sniping and didn't miss, and it was like when I would try to engage one of them I would get shot in the back by another one of them because they were all making callouts and stuff, I was able to beat them 1 match where I went like 50-34 and then next match I went 34/32 or something while my whole team was double negative and drastically worse randoms than the previous match... I wanted to beat them two matches in a row but with the second group of people that I was paired with it was pretty much impossible to cap the obj

[@thekingnix8691]

I’ve been around fps games since bo1 and to be honest you just have to adapt and play for fun but play to get better at the same time in order to keep up with the “new causal level” because to be honest casual players eventually will get better and better and you have to evolve with them or you’re going to be below average

[@dartlinfps]

very good point, I think the adapting part is the hardest because sometimes you just want to push forward constantly and sometimes you HAVE to slow down

[@saiyan_gainz4264]

That's been my issue my whole team camping or sniping and I'm on obj alone. Getting jumped by the other team. I told them to play TDM and what one said it's easier to get kills when people are running for obj and I camp the route smfh

[@iStayLethal]

Yes, I noticed it also. I keep getting into top tier esports athlete games lol.

[@dartlinfps]

it's like 4 ppl in discord calls making callouts and stuff lol you can just tell when they're playing together it's too coordinated to be a coincidence

[@Coach568]

Great video the landscape of this game has changed really quick from season 0 to season 1 but I love the mp7 class you got what attachments do you use for this hun on the video

[@dartlinfps]

I use no stock, quickdraw grip, chrome lined barrel (it basically makes you beat ARs at midrange), and muzzle booster...rapid fire barrel or heavy barrel are also good but I feel like chrome lined makes the mp7 range OP

[@andreidmny]

It's refreshing to see a fellow long time FPS player not following the whole YT "game". I'm really enjoying your commentaries! 🤜🤛

[@dartlinfps]

thank you

[@jaycrinklegaming]

It’s all about those head shots!!!

[@dartlinfps]

100% I think i need to be more adaptable when Im against squads too I prob need to slow my pace down and stay closer to teammates

[@averagenoob2.0]

Maybe its cause I live in the south but I only run into sweats in TDM or hotshot

[@titusRED]

I realized how “protected” I was in COD goddamn. You made some good points to just not take it seriously anymore and try to have fun as it is. I admit I pretty much rage quit like a week prior. I may pick it up again though.

[@dartlinfps]

there's always improvements to make, some matches are unwinnable due to teams etc but it IS RANDOM so at least we know we are not getting manipulated like in cod where you actually get punished for playing better which is worse than just coincidentally running into a stacked team or some better players every now and then

[@HenryReid-vs4qm]

I went on vacation for 2 weeks and came back excited to play the new update. But, I just could not compete with all the sweats. I couldnt get my skill back with the game because it was hard to get a positive kd with all the sweats. I have now quit the game and moved on to the finals

[@dartlinfps]

I haven't tried the finals yet it looks fun I might have to give it a try sometime those booster things that launch you into the air look really fun lol

[@HenryReid-vs4qm]

@dartlinfps It's really fun and decently casual. It's refreshing compared to xdefiant.

[@waff6ix]

I UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM💯BUT I AM THE SWEAT STILL PLAYING THIS GAME😭😭IT SUCKS GOING AGAINST A TEAM THATS CLEARLY A 4-5 STACK I JUST WISH I HAD SOME FRIENDS TO PLAY WITH💯

[@dartlinfps]

I'm still sweatin too lol, I only use the meta stuff if the others are but usually just chill and level weapons, I just hate getting jumped by a full team its like a reminder that I have no friends LOL

[@JacksonLloyd952]

Good stuff

[@SAKEWCW]

Here you have my like. I thought I was crazy but at least somebody saying what I feel since a few days ago, every match is full of stinky armpit people (tryhards) in headglitches, or jumping around, even people with not very high level. Before I was able to kill a lot and do not get kill too much, now it's rare the match where I make more than 50kills without die 20 or 30 times. Not to mention when you are playing solo, and in thw other team they are playing in party, them you know that you have two choices, or leave, or get smashed by them. I also encounter lot of cheaters, yesterday I found one named Killy1x this dude was killing everybody with mp7 and any distance, it was in Occupy and the map Pueblito, at the end he finished the game with 105-20...very normal. I went to check out his stats and he has the (very normal) average of 50 kills/match.

[@SAKEWCW]

By the way, I also play in US East servers, maybe we have played in the same game at some point.

[@dartlinfps]

I think I may have seen your name in game if its similar to on here, you can tell ppl are in parties by the way they play def and also depending on how your team is playing, there's nothing you can do about it but leave or just accept that you're going to lose regardless of how well you play...Surprisingly I have yet to get spawn trapped by a full squad but the feeling of wanting to win and constantly running into 3 or 4 guns every corner you hit can get annoying...ppl somehow take this as me sucking at the game and not wanting challenge...that's like saying just because floyd mayweather is a good boxer he should box 1v3 instead of having a fair fight

[@tylercalhoun168]

Yup im a casual and im gone. Bad netcode and bad hit reg drove me away. First impressions count

[@angrycheetos2112]

Okay 😂

[@chowell1451]

😂

[@OzkanArac]

Some are saying we need to wait for 3 years for this game to get where it should be. I'm saying these people don't understand the industry. No one is going to wait for 3 years and no developer can stay afloat for three years without earning some money. The game has to deliver now, as well.

[@Digger-Nick]

Yeah these issues make the game seem "sweatier" than it is.

[@0xmoo]

@@OzkanArac yup and when you factor in it's ubisoft + a game in the most saturated genre ever that has seen dozens of fps games flop because they're sp generic, you come to the conclusion where this game is headed lmao

[@remipennel121]

IDK man, I kind of disagree, yes there'll be games when my team gets absolutely demolished and enemies are sweating their nuts off but there are an equal amount of games where the enemies are not good, I'm not very good at the game and yesterday I got 50 kills in a team deathmatch game and trust me, that was not because of my own skill level, that was because the enemies I was facing off against were kinda ass. I imagine most sweats are either playing the ranked mode right now or will switch to it after the gets finalized and the bugs are ironed out.

[@dartlinfps]

To be honest with you I think this was just how I was feeling on that particular day and I'm glad that it's actually random rather than being manipulated

[@daveywavey1896]

Bro....Im good at these games but now I can't deal. I'm Struggling to get like 15 kills and these sweaty cheaters are getting pretty much 40 & 5 each game. The cancer needs to be cut out.

[@gregwx]

When I started to play, was 7/10 were casual lobbies, 3 really sweats. Month later, 6/10. Currently since ranked season 1 = 3/10, 3 casual games 7 very sweat lobbies. So I just embrace the lobby, but if there is squad and toxic assholes, I just leave.

[@joseponce2104]

I’m a xdefiant casual and it’s about worming up

[@rufascar9512]

You’ve earned a sub man…👍🏼

[@dartlinfps]

Thank you! Appreciate that

[@VAIBHAVMALHOTRA19]

It’s the one-shotting glitchers which are the main problem

[@Fujihanaa]

I agree.

[@jordan58499]

Honestly haven’t had much of a problem finding casual players. I still run into plenty of them, whether they are on my team or the enemy team.

[@dartlinfps]

I find them I just constantly find them on my team while enemy team is 4 ppl in a party all lvl 150+

[@ernestoesqueda5722]

Bro out of 10 players you encounter like 4 of them have cronuz and the rest of them are sweats

[@Hybred]

Its not that the game has no SBMM, its that it has high TTK + strong movement (air sfrafing). These games will always be sweaty its an awful combo.

[@dartlinfps]

I think these exacerbate the netcode issue

[@Hybred]

@@dartlinfps they do, for sure. But high mobility and high TTK increase the competitiveness of a game. You need to choose one, having both is a nightmare. People cant say they want a causal game then ask for it to be optimized likes its competitive

[@alicedescartes]

Maybe it depends on the gamemode? I play unranked domination and there are PLENTY of casuals, otherwise I would not get this many MVPs. I am no sweat, but I am definitely above average.

[@dartlinfps]

I think in zone control there's a lot of ppl going for kill records and playing in 3+ man parties...sometimes you dont notice bc theyre not having a standout performance, but other lobbies you can just tell when there's four level 130+ on the enemy team and every time you're engaging with one the other three are holding some type of sight line to quickly take you out if you're able to get one of them

[@gamingwithoutcommentary6551]

For me it’s the opposite I can go 45-6 with 2,000 objective score on domination and still lose. This happens on the regular. The game wants me to carry 5 bots going 5-36 with barely any objective score.

[@dartlinfps]

This is my experience when I'm trying it seems like the rest of the team is in the wrong game mode

[@Unlimited_Power_TV]

A Very True & Honest Account Of The Current State Of #XDefiant On Both #Console And #PC As Of Friday July 12th 2024

[@tkane435]

Honestly, I have not experienced a casual lobby at all, even from day one. It’s all sweat all the time. Maybe it’s my region, or server that i get connected to, but that has been my experience. However, I have more good games than bad, and still overall enjoy the game. I play solo as well, If I get into a lobby up against a party and they are just destroying my team right off the rip, i just leave. Not gonna deal with it.

[@dannyknowsu]

Had me dying from the start of vid about that vector guy bro lmaoo

[@dartlinfps]

lol I didn't know the vector was an acr dude was BEAMING

[@theeskimoboy1703]

This is all facts

[@masonbruce3062]

I like seeing the opinions of a casual player bc I am not a casual and I’m not sure how they think, I’m one of the guys always pub stomping before I play ranked or to level up my guns so for me it feels like there’s ONLY casuals playing this game bc I’m always slamming, usually there is one or 2 really good kids in the lobby besides me at least every other game and the impact they have is so big that that’s probably why it feels like it’s ALL sweats, bc there’s is always at least A sweat in every game, also I’ll say ranked is absolutely unplayable rn so if you are a casual I would just completely stay away, not to be rude or sound cocky but I get slammed an half the time and I’m the guy in the pub games dropping 80s every game so ranked right now is just a hacker and sweat absolute shit show, might get better soon we will just have to see

[@masonbruce3062]

The fact that there is no sbmm is one of the main reasons this game has a player base at all, you have to think, if people are playing bc there is no sbmm what kind of player are they? Sbmm helps bad players and hurts good players at least at a first glance that’s not my personal opinion but anyway the type of player excited by that is sweats bc now they can slam pub lobbies like they used to so that’s the type of player this game attracts

[@dartlinfps]

I wouldn't necessarily say that I'm a casual player but there are times that I get on the game and I don't want to even use a headset... I played by myself always and I'm at a point in my life where I'm not always able to give my full focus to the game despite being able to hop on I might be having to multitask during the time that I do have available to play

[@dartlinfps]

I agree though no sbmm is going to attract more pubstomper type players

[@StevosMfDen]

I'm just wanting a server with good connection.

[@dartlinfps]

amen to that lol

[@redentbianchi3295]

in my lobby everyone gets the same kills and deaths every lobby i play to

[@rufascar9512]

It’s very hard to fully enjoy this game from where I live in the Caribbean with high 80-165ms pings. At time it spikes to 200. When that happens which is everyday…I can only fight through 2 or 3 games for the longest. Until there are servers close to us which could give us a way better ping and way less latency would be nice but that ain’t gonna happen.

[@dartlinfps]

just had to do a ton of troubleshooting and I can CONFIRM this game is ROUGH when you have connection issues, you would think them using google cloud services that google would have servers all around the world but as much as they try to act like a company that is "For the people" google is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY...thats why they sell people's data lol

[@rufascar9512]

@@dartlinfps very rough but I still try to fight through my connection issues nonetheless.

[@ShadowWarrior114]

Pretty much everything you said is correct

[@od13166]

Least people go for objective fairly in this game like Hotshot even we losing game end up like 109vs125./110vs125. This happens all the time but its fun everyone go for the objective Compare that to COD Kill Confirmed people just sit there doing nothing but camo challenges😅

[@dartlinfps]

I love games when my team all wants to win and is trying to get the objective or at least clear around it (sometimes they don't care and are on the opposite side of the map as if they're going for longshots) I guess it being random sometimes you will have a good time and other times it will be rough

[@od13166]

@@dartlinfps you wont get in COD like killconfirmed where only me getting dog tags

[@rua893]

yea i agree with casuals leaving .. im a older gamer i tried the game and it wasnt like old cod at all ... i dont have the time to get good against kids that play all day .. but i do think call of duty sbmm is too much .. why cant they go back to the sbmm from older cod games .. those were fun

[@dartlinfps]

this has the lobby balancing like old cods but I think whats happening alot here is matching against full parties or parties of 3 or more which are coordinated and make matches way tougher...the amount of ppl in my comments showing their age with ego comments like "get good" etc is kind of funny they saw the thumbnail and went right to the comments without listening I am certain

[@yokaidigital3033]

@@rua893 I’m older too in my mid 40s and thought when it came out maybe I would like it for my shooter needs. I only wanted to play a few casual games each day but it’s so sweaty that I have no fun at all. I ended up downloading Borderlands games for my shooting feel.

[@neetea2]

Its cause people learned the game long ago

[@Digger-Nick]

You don't need Sbmm, the game just has horrible networking and the time to kill allows bunny hopping to exploit it further. If people died in 3 shots like call of duty people wouldn't be complaining as much because the issues would be much less noticeable.

[@thelonesomedrifter5884]

​@@Digger-Nick Facts plus XDefiant just feels worse to play than Cod

[@primepete]

I hadn’t noticed

[@dartlinfps]

I think I am just constantly being paired against parties, the title/thumb etc is hyperbole but I feel like it is sweatier than at the start (my main issue is 4 players on enemy team that play like conjoined twins it gives me flashbacks to warzone lol)

[@nhilist5774]

As much as a i want to enjoy xdefiant, the netcode and hero abilities killed it for me

[@dartlinfps]

I can understand that

[@franciscocastro898]

100% True.

[@pasticle]

it's all on the developers honestly, they feel ok with many things solely because they will have solid base of players for the next 2/3 years. this game is sweaty because it gives NOTHING to do but to sweat. we all want prisma camos because is the only shit you can do basically so you gotta stick to kills. many many games start solving this by the minute but since it's ubisoft and they feel alright by having a second tier competitive mp like r6/for honor they don't do nothing. shit even splitgate had unlockables with weekly challenges and party modes, this stale will not kill the game but def will not compete in numbers with cod on december. there's always a solution to everything, like even fortnite solved the sweat thing by adding zero build. granted, it came years into the game but also the problem became a problem years later. rotational weapons and map, missions, unlockables, new gamemodes every month (like the finals do, even tho it's death it's not because of content) etc, and people will not reach the skill plateau so soon. but nah, they just gonna give the bare minimum even tho they have all year one content basically done. "BUT THE GAME IS NEW THE ENGINE IS NOT READY YOU GOTTA RIDE MARKS RUBINS DICK BRO TRUST ME" ARE WE REALLY GONNA HAVE PATIENCE WITH FUCKING UBISOFT AND A CODLIKE GAME? THEY HAVE THE CASH AND THE NUMBERS TO KNOW THEY CAN THROW AWAY CASH WITH THE PROJECT, GET 100+ WORKERS THERE BY THE MINUTE AND DO GOOD SHIT. like come on they could just hire a 3rd party studio to solve netcoding but nah they have time lets just give nothing to our playerbase.

[@dartlinfps]

thats actually a REALLY good point about the game basically being able sweating that's all there is to do

[@scriptxyoufurry]

i feel like we live ina era where everyone wants to be great but then never get seen or do anything more bout it like uploading n stuff, as far for the cas. experience this the closest thing will ever get at least for my lobbies depending on the time of day and game mode it can either be really easy and i can play obj with no probs or really really bad- and i gotta like become SCUMP himself in order to win 😂

[@dartlinfps]

I have a problem where I will know the enemy team is partied up and all playing obj and I go "ill show them" and I try super hard to win where my random teammates don't care and then I set myself up to get irritated...sometimes I get the party on my team as a solo and we stomp so I guess it comes around and goes around

[@scriptxyoufurry]

@@dartlinfps that is completely understandable i too struggle with that as well, especially as. a person who doesnt really have friends to ever play with and always been a solo player for as long as i remember it can be adhesively frustrating to continue solo queuing at a time and wanting to win your teammates dont play the OBJ

[@Meyhem33]

Solos won't que with large parties. I'm a solo PS5 player with cross play off and lobbies have been suspiciously easy the last week or so. As for cheaters, not sure, I've only ever reported 5 players and when its super obvious I make it into YT short and throw in on my channel. I do block quite a few people instead of reporting them. That's the 100% guaranteed way to never have to see them again...and not run the risk of reporting someone when they're just that slilled.

[@dartlinfps]

I think it's probably less sweaty on ps or xbox crossplay off, pc players on controller tend to be the more diehard players, but it really does vary, sometimes you play the 4 stack, sometimes they're on your time, sometimes they're good, sometimes they're just friends chillin in a party

[@joseponce2104]

It’s about adapting to your surroundings and not about running and gunning

[@dartlinfps]

I want to run and gun on tdm...sorry

[@christiandeville17]

The game is done for it’s nothing but sweats and that won’t last long nor be a good look for longevity. I played earlier and I was just over it and got off. Between the sweats and cheaters I just can’t get with it

[@dartlinfps]

it's honestly annoying and it will kill the game if not remedied, you got ppl saying "skill issue" here and there the problem is even if they're as good as they think they r eventually they'll have nobody to play against, I just saw a video of a ranked game amongst the "best players" and dude was using an exploit for infinite nades at the start of a round, what a joke, I wouldn't put it past that same person cheating and even consider doing an exploit like that to be cheating tbh...

[@christiandeville17]

@@dartlinfps yes and I hate that about this community they think they know more than the devs but again the devs letting them lead which is causing the game to be a shit show. Activision maybe shitty at times but at least they have a BACKBONE. Mark is letting these gamers ruin his game. XDefiant needs SBMM to an extent

[@mrlogic1017]

Don’t think the game is done for quite yet, I’d give them a chance to make some fixes and most importantly get the net code to a good state. Having said that, totally agree that it’s been rough particularly since season 1 launch. I’ve stopped playing and will come back to it in a couple months, when hopefully things will get sorted out, cause between the dying behind walls, spider bots, sniper rifles randomly shooting with a delay after I pull the trigger, pumping full mags into certain players and them not dying, as well as many other little issues. It’s just more frustrating than fun to play at the moment.

[@shotashifps6429]

1000% facts

[@dartlinfps]

I hate jumping into a tdm and there's a clear 4 stack running around every corner together while I'm using a lvl 10 weapon (i started just leaving those matches) i don't have working ac in my house rn and its 90 degrees in GA LOL...can't be sweating on top of sweating when I have 8000$ to come up with for a new ac system

[@sgtoz]

I turned it off after the new season.

[@calebijeh2324]

💯💯💯💯

[@stevenmontgomery1786]

And this is exactly why SBMM is in almost every other game. Casuals realise they can’t compete with the sweats and give up. That doesn’t happen in other games because they’re protected by the algorithm to play people in their level. Not saying it’s right or wrong - but that’s why other games will succeed for years while increasing and retaining their player base while xDefiant might struggle in the long run.

[@dartlinfps]

I think they could have multiple playlists and have one called casual that gives lobbies based off recent performance or something (I don't have an issue with sweating, I just hate going against stacks constantly who are clearly using comms etc)

[@berserk_otter6639]

I'm a casual, I'm not going anywhere, I'm loving this game

[@dartlinfps]

Same!

[@DarthBane86404]

Dude I usually have a couple easy lobbies than the rest of the time I'm in sweat fest 2024 and I'm trying to cap points and do a couple wall bangs. And do my part. But I love this game. It's not casual players that play xdefiant or CoD for that matter it's sweats and some towels

[@dartlinfps]

Yeah the game playerbase is dropping off so everybody knows the game and the meta as well as the maps, not everybody is great at gunskill and movement but the big issue is getting hit with a big party on the enemy team (it's better than cod with the manipulation going on with matchmaking) even wz had me in an Iranian lobby the other day after winning 3 matches in a row (guy was speaking farsi and I asked him where he was he said Iran) he may have been on a VPN but idk the whole lobby was 200 ping except for me everybody else moved like a flip book so I imagine I got pushed to a server somewhere closer to him, maybe Germany

[@DarthBane86404]

@@dartlinfps that's wild my guy . Actually I was put in a European lobby about a week or two ago in xdefiant. The ping was atrocious But actually didn't have a bad time in that one. But when I have a CoD high ping lobby I'm glitchy ASF dude and I'm barely able to move or I'm going through walls for some damn reason and I just haven't been back since the launch of xdefiant. . Xdefiant is my go to now. CoD always breaks the game with the seasons it drops. If it's UI or the interface or something minute as opening doors. I'm done done with CoD and have no plans to play BO6

[@alphaal1589]

I'm lvl 121 and mostly a solo player with a 2.5+ KD but most of the occupy lobbys are sweaty Ass F i don't even bother playing against 3 to 4 stacks players not even counting the BS team balancing system.... If i see they are super tryhard i just back out find another decent lobby!! I feel Team Deathmatch is too easy but at least is mostly a casual experience!!

[@dartlinfps]

I like tdm for wpn lvls I just get mad when I see ppl running around the map 3 or 4 deep lol I love occupy thats prob my main mode I just rage when my team is nowhere near the obj and the whole enemy team clearly is playing to win, my team is effectively playing tdm and hiding in spawn during occupy sometimes, I could understand if they were being slayers and running around the map causing havok gaining map control but they might as well be hiding

[@deathgrinderb3284]

very light sbmm is not bad like in AW it was said to have sbmm. but lobbies didnt break up. and matches were not rigged. like fortnite has very light sbmm. u can still feel yourself getting better still.

[@dartlinfps]

I think there's definitely an argument for a playlist like that, I definitely think that they could add a mercenary Mosh pit for the solo players because sometimes it's annoying playing against for people in a party who are all lvl 150 in a discord call together lol

[@AlderaansRanger]

I mean I started playing today and I have to get to lvl 40 to play ranked. You gotta grind a bit to get there. So only people that play a bit and are pretty good are gonna continue to play

[@dartlinfps]

true, I think this, as much as it can be annoying, is good to keep cheaters at bay and out of ranked (temporarily)

[@TheSoggynacho]

I stopped playing after I got my M60 titanium prism. For me it felt more like work then just a fun shooter

[@dartlinfps]

I think this brings the question of is the grind the game or is the game after the camo grind the game, I remember ppl saying stuff like "i got mastery camo now I can finally play the game" lol imo after there's no progression system left for you all you have is to sweat and try to break personal records or just play for the sake of killing time or a quick shooter game fix

[@TheSoggynacho]

@dartlinfps I don't mind the grind, it's more of the issues with the game.

[@italdesign]

Very good perspective and advise. The most annoying part of the game for me is the sniping.I feel like nearly all snipers are sweats or cheating. The millisecond you expose yourself it's game over. Either that or sniping is too OP in this game.

[@dartlinfps]

I think with the hitreg higher damage per bullet guns dominate esp 1 shot weapons, marksman rifles and the m16 are insanely strong and so is the ak because if there is packet burst mid gunfight, sometimes you get super bullets which basically does the damage that was supposed to be dealt over time all at once (if you ever felt like you got sniped by an ak this is why, it can feel that way even without headshots)

[@slitsmyster]

I like this game but I get absolutely murdered every lobby lol

[@kimmortensen6786]

I am a casual player and dont play crossplay only Ps5. I’m still fight😊When its get hard i just stop playing.

[@KissofDeath63]

streamers are the reason of why everyone playing fps wants to be a pro instead of playing casual just to have fun.

[@dartlinfps]

I also heard in 2025 or 26 esports is going to start being in the Olympics so the motivations are different, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the people that I play against are literally kids who play everyday together to build synergy as a team... Sometimes the level of coordination is wild while I'm sitting here listening to KZbin videos off my phone without a headset on just making the mistake of trying to chill and level weapons

[@pubplays368]

It’s crazy how different peoples perspectives are. In my 100+ hours on the game. I’ve had maybe a handful of matches where there was any difficulty. Even now the game is as easy as ever. The only difference I’ve noticed is that people are starting to catch on with the movement. I tend to understand I’m an anomaly (9.1kd, 90% win rate. But I don’t get where this consensus comes from that the game has lost so many players. The game still averages between 5-700k daily players. The game is still top 10 on the charts. People are just learning and adapting if anything. But people arent leaving as much as y’all think they are.

[@dartlinfps]

I just notice a ton of players "holding hands" some would call it playing together but if im solo and my team is not coordinated it feels like I'm 1v3 multiple gunfights and then when I go to flank one of the 3 players usually hears me and somehow all 3 guns are directed on me once again almost as if they made a callout or have a ping system i dont have in game lol I like the randomness but as a players who is only EVER solo, I don't want to go against 4 ppl with ttv in their name similar levels playing coordinated af while my team is drooling (not sure if you are on controller or kbam, but I see more ttv when I play kbam than controller) I want a merc moshpit or a free for all mode where I can feel like I'm not getting "jumped" by 4 kids in a discord call The game has DRAMATICALLY less input based kbam only players than it did on launch and the queue times prove it

[@pubplays368]

@@dartlinfps yeah I get that. I’m a solo player as well so I knew from the start that stacks would be something I have to deal with. Luckily most stacks are only above average players with around 2kds. So they’re generally not too hard to farm the entire game. The dev team is working on a ping system so that should make things better for solos. Not sure if I agree with a mercenary playlist. Ive seen it do more harm than good (apex, destiny, splitgate etc). Yeah the mnk group will always be the minority in shooter titles. The majority of the playerbase exists on console anyways. Combine that with input based matchmaking like you said and queue times are definitely hurt. I say fk it and force everyone into lobbies with each other regardless of input or platform. Cod/apex style.

[@ssjjaeds759]

The casuals really just want to play against worse players than them so they can be the sweats.

[@jcZo23]

Everyone's an Mp7 or Sniper Kangaroo now its 🗑

[@zonzore]

I'm a casual and i love the sweats. I only play 3-5 matches at a time.

[@dartlinfps]

I started doing the same, currently no AC in my house and its 90 degrees the pc makes the room too hot lol

[@zonzore]

@@dartlinfps lmao damn!!!

[@ZombieRommel]

I saw my first cheater a week ago. He would prefire me around every corner and wasn't running Echelon. I ended up going Phantom riot shield and melee bashed him to death a few times. But it is a bad sign seeing a cheater like that out in the open. Cheaters are like roaches. For every one you see there are ten more you don't see.

[@dartlinfps]

I saw one the other day who was FLYING through the air their character was jumping 50 feet in the air and 1 shotting everybody, also ran into a bot lobby the other AM that had a full enemy team named "boostbot1 - 6" somebody on my team had paid to boost weapon xp and I happened to get into that lobby by chance due to the time of day

[@ZombieRommel]

@@dartlinfps Yiiiiiikes!

[@xccelerant8695]

I can deal with the players, I’m better than most, it’s the netcode that has made me give up on it.

[@dartlinfps]

That's what turns me off it the most too