Xenomorph vs Tyranids -- Aliens versus Warhammer 40k -- Who Would Win?

[@damonatherstone9195]

gaunts are capable of surviving bolt rounds, I personally wouldn't call their armor "not much to speak of"

[@NightfireGamingYT]

Thanks for the feedback 👍

[@spiffygonzales5160]

Bolters are over rated

[@agallade4900]

Yeah in the armor Xenomorphs are still smarter sl theyd just bonk them in an unarmored spot

[@Ghost_divsion]

​@spiffygonzales5160 bro are you stupid bolters are literally giant guns that fire spirit guided red bull cans just because it's not that amazing in 40k doesn't mean it's bad

[@nathanlowry9421]

@@spiffygonzales5160 yo they shoot rockets instead of bullets and it’s enough damage to be equivalent to a .50 cal by our modern standards. I get that it’s seen everywhere and talked about a ton but it’s because it’s a really good benchmark for how insanely overpowered everything in 40k is. .50 rocket handguns are the benchmark for average and that is literally insane

[@ricardoalonso8376]

A better comparison would have been genesetealers and Broodlords to Xenomorphs. but the contest was over when you consider the Tyranids are a space fairing race, while the Xenopmorphs propagate like parasites, and they inspired the Genestealers so they are already incorporated.

[@ry4n737]

Tyranids as a whole would crush them and turn them into bio mass...😁

[@theunforgiving4423]

@@ry4n737 just by putting that emoji is cringe

[@itsyaboidaniel2919]

I might as well slap my thoughts into a comment by default. The Xenomorph from the first movie was a Drone. Drones have smooth heads, and Warriors have ridged heads. I've heard that Warriors are stronger than Drones, but I haven't seen too much to suggest that, since they appear to be basically the same size. There was an entire comic series about Xenomorphs taking over Earth, and multiple novels about it as well, so we do actually get to see how a Xenomorph take-over of a planet would play out. I won't spoil too much, but it basically starts off as numerous small infestations that can be dealt with, but they keep popping up, and eventually growing in size, and then are eventually able to hold off against whatever armed forces are thrown at them, and eventually they begin to overrun the armed forces themselves, and destroy the human resistance before going after the remaining, mostly defenseless human population. Another thing to mention relating to a Xenomorph take over is that the Xenomorphs Queens are actually incredibly intelligent, being described as more intelligent than any human ever born, and being shown to manipulate people without them knowing it, while in captivity. They also seemed to very specifically target military bases during their take over of Earth, as plenty of the human population was still around before the military was completely destroyed, and they seemed to intentionally swarm the last military base when taking it over. While Xenomorphs do have far fewer common forms than Tyranids, that's due to the Tyranids producing their own forms intentionally, whereas Xenomorphs gain traits from whatever hosts they come from, whether it be human, dog, cow, Predator, or whatever else the face hugger latches onto. Usually they're just latching onto people, as there's not too much else to latch onto while on a spacecraft with humans on it, so that's why the "typical" Xenomorph is so common in Alien media. Finally, I'd say the fights were determined fairly accurately. Acid wouldn't be the determining factor in these battles, as both appear to have acid blood in some way, although some Tyranids don't seem to have it, but I'd still grant an acid resistance anyways. The Tyranids also having weapons does give them an advantage over the Xenomorphs in some cases, especially when 4 arms are involved. Although, more arms on weapons could mean few hands to push off the Xenomorph when it tries to grab onto the Tyranid, then use its inner jaw to pierce the Tyranid's skull. Although that's probably a more uncommon situation than the Tyranid simply using its weapons first, and keeping the Xenomorph from even doing that in the first place.

[@NightfireGamingYT]

Thanks for the info! The part about them targeting military sites is really interesting, I knew queens were intelligent but didn’t know they’d use strategies like that. You win longest comment I’ve ever gotten 😁 The hardest part to figure out as far as “head canon” was if a facehugger would interact with a tyranid. On one side they can latch onto about anything including predators. But they wont latch onto xenomorphs themselves. Im assuming it just wouldn’t even work with the xenomorph biology. And Tryanids are SO close to xenomorph biological that I think they’d be immune.

[@itsyaboidaniel2919]

@@NightfireGamingYT You are very welcome. Of course. There's a channel called "Alien Theory" the has an entire playlist dedicated to the Earth War against the Xenomorphs if you'd want to check it out. His videos are very well narrated, and put together, in my opinion. Longest comment ever? Amazing. It would be an interesting question, if a face hugger could take over a Tyranid. I'd say that it probably could, as both are quite different in multiple ways, and ultimately are different species. One way is that Tyranids don't have inner jaws to pierce the Face Hugger off of its face, and instead do have tongues. Another thing is that Tyranids come in many different forms, which only diversifies them genetically, making potential for more hybrids. Another reason is that the Xenomorphs don't seem to be limited by what species they can take over, so I'd question that Tyranids would be unable to be implanted by a Xenomorph Embryo. I do think that bigger Tyranids could likely resist the Face Hugger latching onto them, but if they are weakened, or just taken down by smaller Xenomorphs, then they could be vulnerable. Face Huggers also make their victims go unconscious, and even forget being attacked by the Face Hugger, so the same could happen to some Tyranids.

[@corneliusbongle1551]

@@NightfireGamingYT Facehuggers don't work on Xenomorphs because they already have that portion of DNA and cannot "inherit" anything extra from the host, as the genome for the Xenomorph species is incomplete. Xenomorphs are depicted parasitic organisms that reproducing through host-based Parthenogenesis (all-sterile females), unless there is no queen/matriarch/empress present then they can mutate into one. I believe that Facehuggers would work on Tyranids early on into a conflict, but the Tyranids would soon wise-up and wouldn't be affected en-mass, just depends as Xenomorphs regularly impregnate virtually-dead and comatose victims also, so this is also a factor. Though could open the door for some dope shenanigans like a Hive Tyrant Xeno, oh the thought. You are largely accurate in the video in regards to matchups and stuff, but I feel in some ways the Xenomorph would never win in this kind of comparison, since their strength lies in their ability to adapt to any situation, any environment, any enemy (due to their reproduction method), but again Tyranid hive mind would make it hard to get this aspect down for the Xeno's. Xeno-Gaunts is a probable scenario however, probably not very effective in the long run. Also I think if we were to go for more even matchups, it'd be Runners/Drones vs Gaunts, Warriors/Praetorians vs Tyranid Warriors/Lictors, Queens/Matriarchs/Empresses vs Hive Tyrants etc

[@NightfireGamingYT]

@@corneliusbongle1551 A Hive Tyrant Xeno would probably be the coolest thing I've ever seen. I'm just trying to picture what that would look like and it would be insane. Everything you said makes sense to me. My bias going into the video was I wanted the xenos to win. But it seems unlikely unless I went really far into head canon where a facehugger makes something like a Hive Tyrant Xeno and you start getting the insane Tyranid/Xeno combos. It is fun to think about though.

[@corneliusbongle1551]

@@NightfireGamingYT The scariest thing would be if either race "won" they would assimilate eachothers DNA/Biomass and effectively become hybrids anyway :D In fact, adding the Xenomorph method of potential reproductiion to the Tyranids would be.... catastrophic for the universe.

[@elixavibuddies2951]

so basically xenomorphs:we are stronger than you tyranids:we have guns

[@nathanlowry9421]

I don’t know man Tyranids literally churn out kajus constantly across entire battlefronts while the Xenomorphs have their queen

[@albinonut1366]

​@@nathanlowry9421what if a face hugger were to impregnate a wounded big tyranidd

[@nathanlowry9421]

@@albinonut1366 I’d argue the hive mind would immediately kill that one trynid. Also that might work for the first couple of times, but they would eventually adapt to the point of face huggers no longer being able to impregnate them. Also, we don’t even know if they COULD impregnate a Tyranid so we could also say it’s not possible too for the sake of argument

[@Lord_Numpty]

Genestealers: No. No, you really, _truly_ aren't.

[@Lord_Numpty]

@@albinonut1366 I don't know if that'd work. On top of what Nathanlowry said, Tyranids are usually incredibly toxic and even if they managed it once, the Hive Mind would take note and adapt future troops to terminate the parasite upon the bioform being infected. As for what would be born from the, say, Carnifex, it's not really anything special. They grew a xenomorph based on a biological tank, good for them, the Tyranids have infinitely more with varying weapons and mutations that one _didn't._

[@jimmould2441]

Love the comparison between the two. I do think a better match up would be a geensteeler vs a regular xenomorph or even a warrior. Or even the Hormagaunt vs the dog alien from the third movie. But as much as I love the aliens, the nids have the advantage by far. But then most of the 40k universe is quite over the top. Loved the video!

[@NightfireGamingYT]

If I do a follow up at some point I’ll put those in there, the dog alien would have been a good one. Literally the only reason I didn’t do the genestealer was that they don’t look as much like a xenomorph. Thanks for the support!

[@turtlehead8386]

@@NightfireGamingYT The Genestealer is actually the 40K version of a Xenomorph.

[@spiffygonzales5160]

Nah. Xenonorphs wreck the nids.

[@ADHD_God5489]

Tyranids are basically xenomorphs on steroids

[@combineeliteunit8769]

@@spiffygonzales5160nope, wrong again bozo. Provide feats, and I’ll provide better ones for Nids

[@TheHiddenLettuce]

i know jack about warhammer lore, but 5:40 with the alien ship, that proves tyranids are more deadly, just from the simple fact they have space travel technology

[@NightfireGamingYT]

Good point. Xenomorphs are more of a planetary threat while Tyranids are a galactic threat

[@jeebuskroost3852]

I think one area thats seriously misunderstood in the last segment in the video is tyranids arent the only ones with considerable evolutionary possibilities. Xenomorphs adapt their biology extremely well and can even adapt to demonic beings given the chance to do so, this extends to queens though rare they can have flying variants but even common soldiers can become sheer monsters depending on the facehuggers victim. The biggest shift in a xeno vs tyranid battle would be if a face hugger got hold of any tyranid and its quick evolving genetic code, this would accelerate xenos adaptability very very quickly. A xeno like this becoming queen would be difficult to deal with and the only saving grace is they would be planet bound.

[@NightfireGamingYT]

If a face hugger got ahold of one of the bigger lifeforms and got a giant xenomorph/nids hybrid I could see that turning the tide. Interesting points for sure

[@rosarend2313]

Honestly I think the tyranid biology would hope the parasitic chestburster out before anything could happen. Just as a singular example, the tyranid weapons are literally smaller tyranids, such as the boneswords

[@marltonmanks9891]

Pretty sure a single tyranid is actually a whole colony of living organisms that has come together to form a larger gestalt entity. So I highly doubt facehuggers could do anything

[@flamerollerx01]

​@@marltonmanks9891It's all speculation though. Nobody knows if facehuggers can infest a tyranid. We can either assume they can, or can't and speculate based on an assumption.

[@0-Templar-0]

Not a good idea. The last thing i'd want is Tyranids with acid blood...

[@NightfireGamingYT]

The combination would be absolutely diabolical

[@khorneflakes4446]

Their blood is already corrosive in some bioforms. The Haruspex Toxicrine and Hierophant possesses dangerous fluids.

[@Nijuka87]

Imagine a xeno with Ork reproduction

[@NightfireGamingYT]

@@Nijuka87 And they get stronger and bigger while they fight. RIP Everything

[@marcomosges4255]

Hive Fleet Gorgon?

[@ethangross6412]

I do think the aliens would have a better match up if you gave them one planet to breed on before the swarms fight eachother, the tyranids have been fighting in this universe for a while and the main reason they have the weaponry would be from other planets, with the xenomorphs getting 1 planet I think it would be a stalemate, with no planet prior I agree they would stop them, I like the consideration of 1v1's aswell as the swarms though

[@pauljohnson6309]

Remember the nids are based on the aliens Check out what a gene stealer is

[@reaperplays9271]

I think it would slowly be a stalemate, then as the nids slowly evolve and start to incorporate their tactics and genetic code they will quickly lose sadly

[@combineeliteunit8769]

Nah, Tyranids literally absorb all that biomass through small rippers that take it back to be used to create more units. Xenomorphs rely too much on hosts to reproduce

[@zool201975]

one thing that they always lack with the aliens in these comparisons is that there are canonically world out there with trillions upon trillions of them and that their shape wildy varies. there can be ones bigger then the biggest tyranids out there

[@pst5345]

Tyranids ARE the adapted xenomorphs for Warhammer.

[@MaDmanex100]

Tyranids are inspired by the xenomorph, i think its lovely to see how an invention creates another. And horrid alien monsters from the galaxy beyond is always lovely.

[@Nijuka87]

You neglected the spirit of what makes a xenomorph a xenomorph. What you’re addressing is something that wouldn’t be matched up if it was placed in the 40k universe, as a xenomorph is birthed with characteristics of the host it was impregnated to. Also Praetorians ( Royal guard) which is slightly smaller version of the Queen. Your results would probably change quite a bit due to this important aspect of the xenomorph

[@NightfireGamingYT]

That’s a good point, if it was birthed from a Space Marine or another species it’d be way different than just a regular human xenomorph

[@spiffygonzales5160]

I would say xenomorphs win. Xenos are just better in every. They reproduce WAY faster, their soldiers are generally better , and frankly a lot of the ships of the nids would just serve as giant places for a hidden xenomorph to reproduce. They'd basically just start planting eggs inside the flesh ships themselves.

[@curts7801]

They do **not** reproduce way faster. Not by a long shot. The tyranids are mass produced in factory style birthing vats. In the time it takes for an egg to be laid, face hugger hatched, then latched, then chest burst and grown to adulthood, the fleets have grown and produced hundreds of full sized and ready for combat hive tyrants. The tyranids can produce new warriors more quickly and more easily than modern day earth can produce bullets. Every bullet in the one comic’s story where the xenomorphs conquer earth, the bullets themselves are outnumbered by the tyranids. The tyranids have entire planets’ worth of biomass fueling their armies. Multiple. And they keep the genetic material of EVERY species of every planet they have ever consumed stored, ready to genetically modify the next batch of monstrosities being produced. The tyranids can modify themselves to completely forgo mouths, stomachs, and digestive systems, running solely on in built food stores like eggs, so that the face huggers can’t use tyranids. They don’t have to restrict to the termagaunts and hormagaunts either. They can spawn small locusts and beetles in the trillions to swarm and devour the facehugger eggs like a swarm of rats or piranhas. They can build stronger and stronger acid resistance too, as they deem it strategically necessary. On the top end of the scale, because hive tyrants are NOT their biggest, not by an order of magnitude even, the biggest bio titans can match the size, durability; and destructive power of even Godzilla. They can produce as many of these Godzillas as they please, loading the planet up with literally hundreds. The tyranids can engineer plagues too. Disease can be wielded too. They are master genetic engineers. They have full and total control of their breeding vats in orbit. The ships are living tyranids hatched for space travel, with living flesh computers on board ran by flesh norn queens running the calculations and designing monsters. These entities are meant to bring down entire multi planetary empires. They have no interest in inhabiting their conquered worlds. They devour all life, all biomass, all the water and nutritional minerals they desire, and abandon the dead rock husk of a planet. And that planet, and the corpses of the old tyranids, becomes the fuel for the next planetary invasion, numbering in the tens of trillions of monstrosities as needed. Their numbers are effectively limitless, as they don’t have populations on a world to pull from. They have 27, maybe 76, or maybe 200 planets worth of resources to continue building their armies. If you melt down ALL life on earth into a singularity nasty paste, and use that paste to grow legions of Godzillas, how many Godzillas could you make? These aren’t parasites acquiring hosts; these are planet eaters, and there are planets aplenty.

[@FumuFubukiKaiNi]

Tyranid are basically extra galactic xenos who have consumed galaxies compared to your common xenomorphs and in my words id say ,the Tyranids have already won before the battle even starts Tyranids basically adapts to every possible situation with the information provided by a handful of Tyranids information of their experiences to their hivemind which will give it enough brief to quickly make a design of a new set of Tyranids specifically bred to deal with these xenomorphs allowing them to gain the upper hand by simply outsmarting the xenomorphs Not to mention the part you said that Tyranid hive fleet ships being an egg nest for these xenomorphs to lay hatchlings will be dealt with absolute ease , remember that Tyranids adapts to every situation there is and dont tell me that the Tyranids wont even bother to do some clean up to their ships as well as the fact that Tyranid ships are basically living beings too that is also connected to their hive mind allowing Tyranids to quickly detect xenomorph infestation in their ships leaving them xenomorphs no chance to stand against Tyranids by simply evolving and quickly learn the strengths , tactics, strategies and the weaknesses of xenomorphs Plus Tyranids comes in various sizes ,one could easily overpower the queen and others engage in tactical approach against them

[@voidseeker3260]

Also consider the norn queen and other things in the Tyranid arsenal

[@spiffygonzales5160]

@@FumuFubukiKaiNi Nids don't adapt to every possible situation. A thousand years of the Imperium fighting the tyranids and lazguns work just as well as they did a thousand years before. Yes, they adapt. But it's not like the Borg where you need to worry about them immediately adapting to whatever you throw at them. In fact don't bio weapons work on the nids? With the xenos tho it is quite literally instant. If they consume someone they adapt immediately to kill that specific thing. Also xenomorphs have a hive mind themselves. Actually they can both be individuals or part of the hive mind depending on their circumstances. The nids will make new nids to combat the xenos, but not nearly as quickly as the aliens will adapt to fight those exact newly created drones. As for outsmarting.... I dunno man. I'd honestly put them on a similar level of intelligence. Both get STEREOTYPED as a sort of mindless monster, but their tactics can honestly be pretty similar and such other than say, the nids infiltrating a planet. Also, xenos have adapted to be literally invisible both in the AVP movie (debatable canon) as well as the comics (canon) in a single generation. Plus the production rate for alien is way, way, waaaay faster than the nids. If let's say a single nid was to infiltrate your average world it takes like what... a decade? A decade to actually produce an army capable of taking out the average world. Xenos took out earth in weeks. Also there's the consumption to production rate. For a nid to be made it requires a couple bodies worth of biomass right? Whereas xenomorphs can lay multiple eggs in a single body and within a day you've got multiple fully grown xenomorphs. I guess one might argue that the nids can eat plants and such too... but I really don't see nids consuming xenos considering xenos literally have acidic blood that melts through multiple floors worth of advanced titanium. Like say a xeno kills a nid. That's a dead nid plus a few more xenos now made from the carcass. Reverse it and say a nid kills a xeno. That's a dead xeno and a dead nid since fisticuffs between the two will most certainly result in the acid blood hitting the nid. Put that stuff in the gestation pools and now you're down a whole gestation pool, not that I think the nids would actually do that. Like you said, they're intelligent. Also, 99% of nids are gonna be slightly smaller than 99% of xenos. Also a queen isn't the biggest. There's praetorians, kings, Emperors, empresses, etc. I'll put it like this... could all the aliens across the movies take out the nids. Nah. But put a single nid and a single xeno on a planet and the xenos would wipe out the nids quite literally before they even made a den to live in.

[@MarcusBaltzer]

There’s no law against the Xenomorphs Batman!

[@dragonjaj]

Tyranids the only good guys in 40k

[@Aqua311]

Everyone just keeps using standard human bred Xenos for these sorts of comparisons. It's too bad we don't have any real data on the kind of Aliens that would spawn from the many different species and mutants in this universe. All of it is just hypothetical, and therefore it is not used. One thing is for certain: If the Xenomorphs get access to superior hosts, then things will get way more interesting. But yes, they remain limited to land battles until they find suitable hosts with wings.

[@NightfireGamingYT]

I would love to see what more of the varieties look like. If there was a crossover with 40k. I bet some of those xenomorphs would be unreal

[@Aqua311]

@@NightfireGamingYT Emperor forbid that the Xenomorphs ever get Primarch Vulkan as a host. If his immortality is to be believed, then the Xenos could endlessly spawn a new generation of un-killable Aliens. Btw, all that I know about 40k is from the hilarious TTS series.

[@Nijuka87]

Imagine a xenomorph that came from a space marine, or a Ork

[@Aqua311]

@@Nijuka87 Exactly. Now, there is something that I am curious about: What would happen if a facehugger implanted an embryo inside one of the Tyranid ships?

[@sillygoblin0156]

Lifelong fan of both franchise here. The xenos from aliens do have a sort of diversity and examples of different alien xenos in their toy line. I had all the aliens, predictors,band most of the space Marines toys when I was a kid. The xenos from aliens range feom mantis, gorilla, King Alien, snake, gorilla, queen face hugger, scorpion, Alien Queen,rhino, and more.

[@soupcool1858]

Yea but....what if we take the fact that xenomorphs ARE a genetic weapon by them self? And that fact that each other xenomorph mutates from carrier to carrier, acquiring its personal properties and appearance. Just imagine what will happen if one xenomorphs facehugger will hatch a nest of xenomorphic tyranids and ofcourse will get a mutated queen eventually. So since of that moment xenomorphs will find and adapt to new life form as tyranids, they immediately will become new headache and disease of them. Eventually, just like Human Empire, it will make tyranids weak and isolate, separated etc, because the only thing you can do to save your race from xenomorphs is quarantine and isolation or 100% annigilation in whole universe (What impossible, because there a lot of other races as new carriers). The only one race that physicly can't be swallowed by xenomorphs in this way are Necrons, because they're not a biologycal life form anymore.

[@marcomosges4255]

Also important but often forgotten is, which hive fleet are they facing? It totally change the outcome and tactics used.

[@theboiwho8pasta]

When I look at this comparison, I cant help but see it as Humans vs. Cavemen.

[@lgjm5562]

I hope the evolving a.i. filmmaking results in whole movies of all our requested mashups. Then we'll have something to watch while we're jobless.

[@nathanlowry9421]

I feel as though it comes down to the command structure of each mass infestation. Like yes the queen is extremely intelligent, definitely could be argued that it’s intelligent rivals the hive mind, but the hive mind being able to deconstruct its own soldiers to reconstruct them into the perfect weapon for a situation different gives the Tyranids a HUGE advantage over the Xenomorphs

[@frangeskahartley7697]

But what about the other xenmorphs like the red Queen mother or the face hungers or chest burster

[@NightfireGamingYT]

I kept debating on if I thought face huggers would work on tyranids. I think they would be able to implant on the weaker forms. But the way they hive mind works the implanted tyranid or other tyranids would likely kill it to keep the chest burster from forming. So I don’t think it’d be a determining factor in the verses battle. But that’s all head canon so 100% up to hear other responses

[@flamerollerx01]

I think it all depends on where you plop the xenomprphs into the 40k universe and if they can acquire space travel. Assuming they can acquire space travel, the way xenomorps adapt their victims' biology, you could end up with one hell of a problem for everything else in the universe, including the tyranids themselves and excluding necrons.

[@disgruntledtoons]

The outcome would depend on which race is given the most passes on the laws of nature, because that is the key strength of both.

[@NightfireGamingYT]

Very true.

[@GarredHATES]

Should have talked about Face Huggers vs Ripper Swarms

[@accessdenied5998]

Ahh hell nah you talking about millions of em and they eat anything even rock

[@maddlarkin]

Okay, gotta correct this, nid's showing up is not an automatic death sentence, a fair number of planets in lore have survived Nid swarms fron small splinter fleets to full invasions by the main swarm, but it requires massive deployments of Guard and Naval forces backed up by everything the mechanicus and astartes have on hand, so these fights are picked and chosen to where its worth it or sufficent force can be gathered, with some worlds being evacuated to deny the hive fleets the bio mass or just abandoned the swarms, exterminatus weapons being deployed as the bioships enter orbit to feed again to deny biomass and starve the fleet. This isnt to say Nids arent incredibly dangerous, but the can and have been beaten, its just it takes monumental effort even in the cases of realitively small splinter fleets

[@Masonicon]

there's at least 2 reasons why Tyranids beat Xenomorphs: 1. Tyranids can eat more varied diets than Xenomorphs(former can eat metals and building materials for extra minerals) 2. Tyranids did punks even Superhumans of all sizes and forms into the bottom of the food chain

[@trava4156]

Xenomorphs would stand no chance. Sorry

[@NightfireGamingYT]

That seems to be what most people think

[@agallade4900]

12:40 sir thats a tyraid prime A warrior is different 13:13 again that is a tyranid prime a hive tyrant flies

[@NightfireGamingYT]

Good catch 👍

[@VunderGuy]

The answer is obvious: Samus Aran! XD

[@voidseeker3260]

This guy just started a war in the comments section and it's going down

[@jamespaguip5913]

The Zerg vs tyranids would’ve been better.

[@NightfireGamingYT]

I never did a deep dive in the Starcraft lore. I played some of the second game and it was super fun. That would be a cool matchup to see

[@spiffygonzales5160]

Xenomorphs are better than Tyranids tho

[@1flinns]

The bigger question is can a face-hugger latch onto an Astartes. And what would burst out?

[@tau-5794]

Given their superhuman nature, the marine even if latched on could just rip the thing off and kill it with his boltgun. A little acid splashes on his face in the attempt? Then cool he's got a new scar to show to his brothers. And then there's the matter of if the new xenomorph would actually be allowed to grow inside the marine. Most likely, once the marine gets back to base with an alien wrapped around his head, he's taken by the apothecaries and the xenomorph is surgically removed from his stomach. If all that doesn't happen, then chances are the chestburster can't actually bust his chest because of his ceramite-reinforced solid rib plate blocking exit.

[@lgjm5562]

11:00 why you clicked.

[@DaBestSkully]

Bolters would krump those Xenomorph gitz

[@callmesenpaidesu1506]

wouldn't a xeno just maky a hybrid of them? then the nids would be resistatof acid then

[@accessdenied5998]

As soon as Nids finds out they can be immune

[@callmesenpaidesu1506]

@@accessdenied5998 of hybridization or acid?

[@accessdenied5998]

@@callmesenpaidesu1506 both just like in battle of Shadow Brink the Nids adapt and immune to all 3 Chaos factions and pushed them back completely, they become immune to Warp, Nurgle plague and Magic

[@callmesenpaidesu1506]

@@accessdenied5998 ty

[@CowboySkeetbop]

Personally, I don’t know what the fuck a xenonorph is doing about a norn emissary. You’re crazy if you think these things stand a chance against a single hive fleet

[@neocapricornman614]

Interesting breakdown. IMHO, though, there is no way that the xenomorphs win. Goes back to what they tend to and can do. The xeno morph is about surviving while the Nissan are about consuming everything. No matter what forms or strategies the xeno employs, the nids will evolve and counter. To say that the blood would not be a factor? I disagree. The variable, though, would be time. Assuming that the xenomorphs are on a planet that the tyranids have decided is going to be dinner, then it will be a wrap. Maybe not right away, but it will happen. The more contact between the 2, the sooner the nods will create a bioform optimsed to negate the acid blood, which would have really been the only thing that would have been slowing down the feast. Recall in 40k lore, there was a planet, a forgeworld that was heavily defended by the imperium that the tyrants hit. The 1st wave/assault was repulsed at great cost due to the defenders employing tactics that had parts of the attacking force dropping down into pools of chemicals (poisonous, corrosive,etc) those bugs didn't survive. After the tyranids were beaten back, the defenders had something like 6 months or so to try and regroup before they got hit again. When they attacked, they once more directed the tyranid drop into these same areas that were supposed to be kill zones. They had set up fields of fire taking this into account under the assumption that anything that went into those pools of toxic stuff would die again as nothing organic would be able to survive. Yet what happened after battle was joined wad they found themselves in a very bad position as bugs were coming up and out of the pools ,outflanking the defenders and breaking through with little difficulty. Given the Nissan ability to adapt to anything they encounter, especially if they actually get to breakdown and eat some xenomorphs(which is highly likely to be occurring all over the place) I can't see any scenario where the xenomorphs will survive. Even if they face huge and infiltrate some of the bioforms they still not going to have anything that they can bring that will allow them to get some advantage or prevent the tyranids from creating bio weapons that will optimize the tyranids ability kill them and or create something that will actually neutralize the xenomorph. The way xenomorph survives simply will not be enough for them to survive a tyranid assault. At the end, the planet in question will be left a lifeless husk like so many that have fallen to the nids. No life. No, nothing left. At least when the xenomorph infects a world, there will usually be some of them leftover after they snuff out the humans and / or whatever creatures were on the planet. Tyranids are on a whole different level. A win for the xenomorphs is creating more xenomorphs. A win for the tyranids is similar, but the real goal is to consume all available biomass. (Humans, other, xenomorph, and Tyranids themselves) they have and create organism crafted to dissolve and break down whatever is present. And they have stuff designed to break down their own bioforms so they can be consumed.... There is no way that the xenomorph is surviving, let alone winning against the tyranids...

[@NightfireGamingYT]

That’s an awesome breakdown. I’ve listen to that story with the acid pools since making the video and 100% agree with you on it. There’s nothing the Xenomorphs could do that would let them adapt that quickly. I’ve read a few different stories recently that made me realize just how crazy the Nids are at adapting

[@benb3316]

The Tyrannids are a grossly blatant rip-off of the Alien franchise by GDW who ripped off a lot, had a bunch of lawsuits in the past over their open use for profit (Moorcock, Hawkwind, also Matthews I think and many others) - and now are sue-monkeys over 'their' blatant fair use. Do "Space Marines" in powered armor for any fiction even in the background and 90% some legal trouble. Excuse me, "Starship Troopers" by Heinlein...? Yeah, they had power suits the movie couldn't budget/make convincing CGI at the time but the novel was much like WH40Ks surface save scale. Heinlein's estate never brought legal action since they liked the expansion of science fiction concepts he wrote. Way back they were called "Genestealers" and formed crazy alien cults. Quick "Mission" that can pop up anywhere.. Were immortalized in the "Space Hulk" computer adventure. After facing some copyright things they expanded to Tyrannids and expanded that a bit. WH40K they were another empire, expanding. Some humans even voluntarily lived among them due to the harsh Imperium, especially the 'deviants' (mutants, heirs of Genestealer genes, abhuman) who'd face extermination for not being 'pure'. Nowadays in corporate make money and be 'fashionably woke' GDW they are space locusts now derivative of the "Zerg" who are a rip-off of them but Blizzard could have sued back way more and gotten the Alien IP owners involved. Again ahem funny since Heinlein (Space Marines in Power Armor against vaguely Insectoid aliens) was ANTI--"Woke" or as they called it then "Politically Correct".... Just one man's opinion to all of course. Oh, BTW, for fun trivia the people who owned/related to the Van Voght estate - did file issues with Aliens people over a creature in "Voyage of the Space Beagle" that was pretty close to Alien. Very similar situation. I'd rather face the Aliens than Vogt's creature - or on a galactic scale Tyrannids/Alien worlds than a re-established unnamed creature in Vogt's fiction... He also seems to have 99% inspired D&D's "Displacer Beast" but fortunately no legal harassment on TSR and later companies. There was a neat joke on Cracked online - "Star Wars = Star Trek x 100" well this is that to that. As it stands the Tyrannids would win, by sheer insane overwhelming force like about anything else in WH40K vs standard sci-fi armies/warriors. It's over the top - squared. Nice vid regardless, Just IMO on the background to the fictions.

[@reaperplays9271]

They act and don't even resemble anything from the alien franchise the hell you on about?

[@benb3316]

@@reaperplays9271 Harken back to "Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader" the first WH40K installment. The Tyrannids were simple a non-humanoid Xenos (Alien) race that was competing with the Imperium. They weren't Chaos allied but doing their best to spread their species and society among the stars and absorbed or enslaved other creatures. They did NOT "Devour Worlds" they took them over and turned them into Tyrannid worlds and while they certainly were brutal, deadly conquerors they were not merciless and genocidal. There were humans who willingly joined them or welcomed them with open arms when they came. Hence the "GeneStealers" - that looked 99% like the "Xenomorph" from the classic Alien film. AND the film was all over before this was published - I've had WOKE-Hummer whine buckets trying to claim the opposite... But look at Wikipedia. The Genestealers were sent in pods that landed in worlds and carefully got people - usually starting from "Dregs" and converted them leading to "Genestealer cults" where they mated with and absorbed people over generations. Eventually they'd create huge movements that took over a world and the signal would be sent to get the Hive fleet. They could often take over a world from within and there would be cheers as the fleet arrived - not to wipe them out but to set up shop. Echoing the "Tau" a more recent thing many humans went "Heritic!" arguing being part of a giant "Ant Colony" was a far better life than the Imperium. GDW of course had more lawsuits than TSR, the latter mostly the Tolkien coffin riders so they changed and upgraded the Tyrannids. So yeah - look at the early Genestealers, early drawings, all the carefully made "Genestealer cult lair" looking like an HR Giger design, old games like "Space Hulk" you'll go "Boy this is SO near a lawsuit!" and IMO only because the rights to and next Alien movie were in the air and being juggled did it NOT happen. I'm not calling GDW a rip-off. Moorcock and Matthews and others via lawsuit have done so already. I think the "Genestealer" was a "Loving tribute" just wish they themselves weren't sue monkeys now crudely painting themselves with 'rainbows' for fake diversity. They harassed a 3D artist I like and cost him a lot of money with some items he had (3D models for DIY 3DCG) that resembled these.

[@misterbd9641]

#Genestealers

[@DND_and_Star_wars_enjoyer]

You made a mistake the first alien seen in alien francise was alien drone not warrior, warrior were seen in the second movie evolved from drones becose the queen needed more powerfull soldiers then the drones by the way if the colony was larger then the queen would also create the pretorian xenomorphs. ps: As true fan of alien, predator and alien vs predator AVP i do not considere prometueus and covenant as canon.

[@NightfireGamingYT]

Thanks for catching that with the warriors/drone. That was one of the hard parts of making this. Both species can have nearly endless forms so it was a lot of head canon lol. It was fun to think through anyways

[@fernandocerino8545]

well acid makes it tough to convert to biomass so tyranids are toast

[@gloweyesca5339]

The way tyranids bring biomass to their ships is by throwing all biological matter (including themselves) into pools of acid to be sucked up by their ships. I feel like they wouldn't struggle that much with converting acid to biomass, as acid is an integral part of their Biomass collection process.