The STRONGEST Bugs of Warhammer, Destiny & Starcraft

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Buster McTunder

Buster McTunder

3 ай бұрын

Delve into the depths of a crickety-slimey space series as we investigate the Tyranids from Warhmmer 40k, the Zerg from Starcraft and the Hive of Destiny--while also deciding which are the strongest above them.
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@cameronnelson632
@cameronnelson632 Ай бұрын
Something I want to mention is that you said Oryx couldn't take the Tyranids because of their Hivemind but I would disagree with that statement because of the Vex. The Vex are also a hivemind intelligence that have proven to be susceptible to becoming Taken, the only difference between them is that individual Vex collectives can disagree with one another, but that doesn't remove the fact that the act of Taking is to force one's own will upon their victim, transforming them into a vessel of their own dominance, the individual Tyranid that was Taken would become cut off from the Hivemind, becoming a vessel for the will of their new master.
@LostEnding_
@LostEnding_ Ай бұрын
It doesn’t need to be a hive mind(the vex are not hive minds either) all they need is a will
@megamente7849
@megamente7849 Ай бұрын
Funny you think vex is aleast a 0,1% ass powefull that the hivemind
@rexwer8723
@rexwer8723 Ай бұрын
Remember Quria who is taken
@AoeUshida
@AoeUshida 13 күн бұрын
@@LostEnding_how many times did you just check out when Zavala said "the vex hive mind"🤣
@LostEnding_
@LostEnding_ 13 күн бұрын
@@AoeUshida the sol divisive quite literally serves the witness none of the other vex do… it’s not hard to comprehend when the game tells you multiple that the vex are not a hive mind. You can’t have a hive mind with 2 different and opposing philosophy’s. During one of the seasons this is stated. “Osiris noted that Vex in the Infinite Forest deemed 'aberrant', because of how their thinking went against the rest of the consensus, would be quarantined from the rest of the Vex and destroyed.”So no the vex are not a hive mind.
@eonranger8884
@eonranger8884 2 ай бұрын
I'm probably underestimating them cause Tyranids are probably the faction I know the least about in 40k, but one thing to note about the hive is that their legions would probably get unbelievably stronger from having an unending source of cannon fodder, since every enemy they kill litterally helps them grow. Also, there's Xivu Arath who litterally gets stronger any time there is conflict ANYWHERE in the universe. Her being in the 40k universe would probably unironically make her as powerful as Khorne himself. There's also the fact that any being in the Destiny universe can make a throne world, granted they are strong enough and follow the sword logic Like Mara Sov and the Mindbender, not just hive gods. In this scenario, there'd likely be a ton of ascendent hive running around.
@GenericName0042
@GenericName0042 8 күн бұрын
Yeah, Xivu is an enemy who is basically impossible to fight against traditionally, cause you'll only ever be empowering her.
@greatwhitnorth
@greatwhitnorth 11 сағат бұрын
Lmao you are very much underestimating the Tyranids. They are arguably the number one threat to all of the factions in 40k right now.
@BAGELMENSK
@BAGELMENSK 10 сағат бұрын
Tyrannid swarms adapt from being killed, having become immune to many toxins and developed gills or laser reflective carapaces depending on the battle space. Tyrannids also consume the corpses of their enemies and their own fallen in order to reproduce and gain their enemies intelligence. They also have a particular ability to disrupt magical abilities.
@eyesoftomorrow6647
@eyesoftomorrow6647 13 күн бұрын
I know I'm late and the Tyranids have been declared victors however I will say these things 1: The vex are the most comperable thing in the destiny universe to the Tyranids, Oryx can take them and they are extremely similar stripping the planets of biomass to meet the pattern 2: The sword logic actively empowers hive who believe in it and follow it. So Hive that kill weaker tyranids rank up become stronger and we'd get an orcs vs Tyranids situtation with a bunch of ascendant hive 3: there is innumerable hive already they in total have caused more known extinctions than the tyranids destroying species solar systems at a time and killing wish dragons 4: If we are doing hive at their strongest strongest strongest Oryx has a pet wish dragon.
@gengarghast
@gengarghast 11 күн бұрын
Just gonna say this, Oryx can still take Vex despite them being not only part of a hive mind, but technically just a bunch of microscopic organisms. If he's able to Take the Vex, he's definitely able to Take the Tyranids.
@SlimeyZockt
@SlimeyZockt Ай бұрын
I only really know Destiny lore. While Oryx and Savathun would be just immune and could draw out a stalemate until they win by default, Xivu is a bit different. A Hive god who gain sher strength through combat and war. An endless war would be entirely in her favour, growing more powerful with each death, if her own brood or the Tyranids. She could fight them for so long that maybe some day she can just eradicate them all at some point. And this is not an evolution or something, she would just get more and more powerful. She is also known as a great tactitian, so she might even get an upper hand when she works together with Savathun and Oryx to take them down
@silverthehero1295
@silverthehero1295 Ай бұрын
Yeah, he didn’t include Xivu at all, assuming the three siblings would work together here.
@nilesstandish1802
@nilesstandish1802 Ай бұрын
Xivu is a problem in any fight, especially on the same side as Savathun. Because you cannot win through sheer force or cunning without empowering them.
@Wormy_fren
@Wormy_fren Ай бұрын
Don't forget wrathborn Since the condition has spread to the fallen and cabal I have absolutely no trouble doubting that the wrathborn virus for lack of a better term could take over the Tyranids and hollow them out for Xivu to use as she wishes.
@energyvanquish
@energyvanquish Ай бұрын
Xivu’s power comes from conflict in general. Even coming up with strategies and tactics fuels her. Which is why it’s would’ve been impossible to take her on without siphoning from her tribute.
@pales4155
@pales4155 12 күн бұрын
Another thing to consider with Xivu is that she has wrathborn (mind controlling different races to act as combatants) so the hive have two ways of stealing combatants.
@skalgrimfellaxe5796
@skalgrimfellaxe5796 3 ай бұрын
Three things are misunderstood here and give the Tyranid a greater edge. 1: They are a gestalt conscience - this is established lore. So no singular thing to kill to win. (You would need to kill all their bioships to win, every single hive fleet and tendril, and possibly in several galaxies and in the void between as well) 2: The shadow in the warp isn't a lack of psychic power. Its the overwhelming nature of the Tyranid hive mind moving closer to a target. Its basically a static white noise that grows in intensity as a hive fleet gets closer, causing pain and distress to psykers and weakening or even sending demons back into the warp. Tyranids can also travel in and use the warp, but very rarely do, instead opting to use their own means of FTL travel. So I don't think the dieties would be able to hide for ever. 3: The Tyranids consume everything on a planet that is or can be used as biomass. This includes metals and minerals from the crust, all the oceans and the atmosphere. They can consume lifeless worlds, gas giants and asteriods - its just that they are after biomass because it means they get access to new genetic material and also in the process they kill off potential threats to themselves.
@Chillseer
@Chillseer 3 ай бұрын
I now know more about these bug things than I do about my own world.
@martinnavarrete5279
@martinnavarrete5279 2 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure the tyranids do not have ftl, their specialize bioships are capable of incredible speed but sublight, that is one of the reasons they havent consume most of the imperium, warp travel is simply much faster. But what is true is that the concience of the hive is inposible to destroy, probably you would have to kill every single tyranid to do it. But it is true that the lost of higher tyranids bioforms is dangerous for their coordination, beacuse yes each individual tyranid warrior is extremly dangerous, but if they lack coordination is much easier to deal with them.
@skalgrimfellaxe5796
@skalgrimfellaxe5796 2 ай бұрын
@@martinnavarrete5279 No them having FTL has been part of the lore since second or third edition. They (up until 10'th ed) only relied on real space warping through gravitic means using a bioship called a Narvhal that can lock onto starsystems over vast distances and by unknown means use a target planets own gravity to create a "funnel" in realspace through which the Hive fleet will then travel. This is slower than warp - but FTL. It has several effects though, mostly pretty dire ones for the targeted planet that will start to experience earth quakes and vulcanic eruptions as the fleet draws closer. The last stretch of the way is however done at sub-light speed as the nids kind of "glide" to their target. They are also almost undetectable during travel up until the very last distance before they arrive as they don't use the warp. They can't use the Narhval inside of a gravity well though, but must move a bit away from planets as the proximity to a gravity well makes it impossible for the Narvhal to locate a new target due to interference. In 10'th it has also been said that they can use the warp - but for unknown reasons have only ever done so once from what Im told. So that might just be a BL author that doesn't know Tyranid lore.
@williamdavies1373
@williamdavies1373 Ай бұрын
Tyranids FTL actually helps demonstrate their intelligence, what they do is a hive fleet will bend space and reality itself, travel the first 90% of the way to the target, and then simply fly towards the target world just below lightspeed. They do this, in case when they manifest inside the planet itself or in a star. In lore, they will actually consume the planet itself such as the minerals, magma, and planet's core - leaving the planet nothing more than a skeleton. It's never talked about much because Tyranids begin with biomass. After all, it is easiest to break, and they can collect and replicate the DNA of the species as well as look into the brains and DNA to discover weaknesses and strategies used and create the best warriors with the best attributes to front them. Some part of the lore says, that when a hive fleet gets big enough they'll start consuming stars, lifeless planets, and even blackholes to get the energy and minerals to further and sustain their growth. Also, depending on the size and complexity of the Tyranid force the shadow in the warp gets exponentially more powerful and complex - until it can begin messing and controlling electrical and mechanical objects through manifesting electromagnetic waves, so the bigger the Tyranids, the less effective technology becomes.
@gengarghast
@gengarghast 11 күн бұрын
Ascendant Plane is not the Warp. To enter it, you'd need to gain access to it through paracausal power of your own, or to be allowed entrance.
@caljam82
@caljam82 12 күн бұрын
Don’t forget about Xivu Arath reveling from a long war. If all three give gods all in play I think the combination of oryx and xivu arath might have the edge
@TheBitingBat
@TheBitingBat Ай бұрын
Oryx literally solos. Im sorry I love Warhammer but the Taken King can literally take entire worlds, cut reality using physical strength alone, he's chaos god level casually. Oryx can destroy and corrupt ascendant spaces which are literally higher dimensional spaces. And taking isn't just a physical takeover, it hollows out and sharpens, it severs those taken from reality itself, even hiveminds like vex or other ascendant paracausal beings like Riven. Add to that the entirety of the Hive fleet, with warmoons, annihilator totems, death songs, magic, and near immortality from ascendancy, the Hive got this comfortably.
@ericespinoza763
@ericespinoza763 24 күн бұрын
Yeah not only that But In one of the lore cards he even took somebody That was capable of destroying moons With ease Also this person was supposedly stronger than him Because he said She would have won If This was a fair fight
@IAmAlpharius20
@IAmAlpharius20 6 күн бұрын
Casually ignoring that the Hive Mind makes Oryx look like a bad joke lmao 12 galaxies of Nids makes him a nonfactor
@supahgaming8249
@supahgaming8249 4 күн бұрын
while this is true the best part is that oryx isnt even the strongest, savathun and especially xivu (pre season of the witch) are both even stronger
@ze_darku_magician5504
@ze_darku_magician5504 18 күн бұрын
These D2 vs War Hammer vids are awesome. I've been having a ton of fun learning about some War Hammer stuff. Destiny and War Hammer both seem to be ridiculously dumb in terms of power-scaling but in different ways. The War Hammer universe is the kid that says "My alien faction has whatever the power of your alien faction is *10!) while the Destiny universe is the kid that replies "Well yes but my alien faction can always retreat into para-causal parallel universes in which they are practically invincible and they cannot truly die outside of those dimensions!).
@Buster-McTunder
@Buster-McTunder 18 күн бұрын
They really are just gi joes personified
@timberwolfbrother
@timberwolfbrother 3 ай бұрын
I've seen another video similar to this one, tho it only covered Tyranids vs Zerg, which pointed out one thing it seems like you missed: the Zerg's greatest advantage is in the type made by the Xel'Naga, AKA: the playable faction. They can produce entities like Abathur which provide intelligent design to new Zerg. Where the Tyranids are often reactive, even if highly-effective, the Zerg can adapt by taking note of target capabilities and create new Zerg without requiring additional biomass. They also have sub-commander types like the Cerberates and Queens which like to take over when there's a power vacuum. The outcome of that video was that the end result would be that neither side would so much as win, as the rest of the galaxy would lose by being caught up in an evolutionary arms-race.
@rememberjerry936
@rememberjerry936 2 ай бұрын
Hmm I didn’t know anything about destinys lore, but now i think their hive faction would be closest to chaos daemons.
@amx-103hammahamma2
@amx-103hammahamma2 Ай бұрын
That role might fall on either the Taken or the Scorn.
@TheBitingBat
@TheBitingBat Ай бұрын
Yeah tbh I'd compare the Hive to Chaos more than the nids. I'd pay good money to see Xivu Arath vs Khorne to see which god of war is strongest
@TyBe-uo4ud
@TyBe-uo4ud 18 күн бұрын
It is AMAZING lore, please look it up.
@pukei-pukei2536
@pukei-pukei2536 17 күн бұрын
​@TheBitingBat as a war god, Khorne is probably more effective, as his domain is war, violence, and blood. His nature as a psychic parasite also makes him more damaging to societies and civilizations. Xivu's domains are war, violence and love, because the hive have that weird philosophy that means you should kill the ones you love to make them stronger/validate them as deserving to exist. She doesn't have quite as potent a domain to draw from as Khorne, and is a physical being rather than a psychic parasite, so not as much wide scale effect. However, she can take to the field herself, and she's a skilled general and tactician, and regularly leads her army's herself. Khorne is a worse problem for any galaxy that he occurs in, but Xivu is a much worse problem for the local level.
@Nachocheese7896
@Nachocheese7896 6 күн бұрын
One thing about the Tyranids is that they are capable of adapting to deal even with the forces of Chaos. Assuming that the Taken function similar to Chaos Demons due to the Warp and the Ascendant Plane being similar, it would stand to reason that rank and file Taken would be effectively useless within the Shadow in the Warp that the Tyranids create, and only sending in the strongest taken to fight a Tyranid swarm wouldn't do much to slow down a species that can consume any biomatter from planets, not just the Hive themselves. The Hive would potentially win only with the taken, Oryx, and any Hive God still intact but that is equal to a death sentence as they wouldn't be able to feed their worms which would consume them as compensation.
@el_androi1203
@el_androi1203 10 күн бұрын
Being a hivemind doesn't prevent individual units from being taken. Such is the case for the Vex in Destiny.
@the_word_bearer
@the_word_bearer 3 ай бұрын
i give you an A for effort and style and lore narration
@lockandbone6784
@lockandbone6784 3 ай бұрын
I have been trying to homebrew an alien species for a D&D campaign and this has been immensely helpful! Glad I found your channel!
@Buster-McTunder
@Buster-McTunder 3 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard! Making homebrew D&D stuff is always fun… maybe I’ll do a video about it eventually
@lockandbone6784
@lockandbone6784 3 ай бұрын
@@Buster-McTunder that would be sick. I looked all over the place for insectoid monster inspirations online and your video was the most helpful. Your in-depth explanation of lore is badass.
@lockandbone6784
@lockandbone6784 2 ай бұрын
​@@Buster-McTunder Had to come back, I just got my first Warhammer starter set and im working on assembling tyranids. You sold me on them. My players are going to stumble across an infected planet seemingly dormant. 😁
@Buster-McTunder
@Buster-McTunder 2 ай бұрын
@@lockandbone6784 they’re cool. I like painting Tyranids because I get really gross with it. Although they can get monotonous at times. Hope they have fun facing down unending waves of devouring flesh!
@lockandbone6784
@lockandbone6784 2 ай бұрын
@@Buster-McTunder I have 2 shit talking murder hobos that tell me my encounters are too weak. They've been basically begging for a TPK 😂
@thedoc7184
@thedoc7184 10 күн бұрын
I love biomechanics mixing with arcane. Very awesome
@kilometers162
@kilometers162 Ай бұрын
These are some of my all time favorite sci fi worlds, and it’s great to see them all put together. Based as hell.
@williamdavies1373
@williamdavies1373 Ай бұрын
Tyranids do have a presence in the warp - that's what the 'Shadow of the Warp' is, it's not the Tyranids canceling out the warp, it's their overwhelming presence forcing the warp away, it's so powerful when normal guardsman are exposed they're driven to madness and will lose their soul for having them pushed away - and the Hivemind can actually directly harm the realms of Chaos itself by simply approaching them. Realms are made of the conceptual abstract concepts that rule reality and all higher realms - likely the Shadow in the Warp can harm the Oryx throne world perhaps even completely destroy it by simply manifesting in it or approaching it.
@LostEnding_
@LostEnding_ Ай бұрын
To be honest the hive would only need the 4 hive gods, xivu would be the greatest threat as the act of war alone would empower her and if they kill any powerful being they’d become exponentially more powerful
@piwopijec338
@piwopijec338 3 ай бұрын
It's worth mentioning that Tyranids can and do use warp based powers to great effect, even manage to counter Daemons on a daemon world in the official lore. Also, they are from outside of our galaxy, some say that they consumed several others before coming to ours (as in: they are many, great invasion fleets are nothing but a probing tentacles of a greater whole). No idea on how they compare in mind powers to Destiny Big Guys (ripping a soul out is a thing), but Kerrigan would struggle with a single Norn Emissary, and there are many more where that came from. Tyranids are bad in space combat/travel time though, so it's not a sure thing. Best they can offer is "more targets than you have ammo".
@sambroadhurst0
@sambroadhurst0 3 ай бұрын
I think you have vastly underplayed one of the key features of tyranids and zerg but its greater for the zerg as its their core mechanic. Ultimate evolution it was played in the games as a ramping up threat but as shown especially in kerigans games zerg evolve both on what they fight and what they consume if they are facing an opponent with any biological based abilities the zerg will have have gained those abilities, this includes intelligence as the leaders in the zerg are capable of tactics and planed genetic manipulation in preparation for future threats. Unless your fighting already ramped up zerg, expect to win the first fight probably win the first 6 months but by then they have all of their own abilities, all of your abilities and are breeding an army a hundred times faster than you can respond to. You wipe out the zerg completely and fast or you lose.
@IAmAlpharius20
@IAmAlpharius20 6 күн бұрын
Tyranids literally outmass them by a factor of 10000000000 to 1. And the Hive Mind also does the same stuff, so lol
@ds2781
@ds2781 4 күн бұрын
@@IAmAlpharius20 It's not that the zerg can do the same things as the tyranids and the hive it's the speed at which they can do it . For the tyranids and the hive they can adapt to changes and threats EVENTUALLY , however the zerg can adapt to threats in MINUTES . In starcraft 2 heart of the swarm you actually get to see them adapt to threats and evolve new abilities in minutes and these upgrades are immediately applied to the entire zerg swarm throughout the entire galaxy . In tyranids this can take anywhere from weeks to years just like with the hive . The zerg simply adapt and evolve to fast for either faction to deal with , unless they completely wipe them out immediately and don't allow them the chance to evolve or withdraw they can win . Also in regards to the tyranids having more numbers , the zerg just don't need them . As was stated in the video the tyranids can usually consume a world and strip it of life in 100 days . The zerg have done this in a matter of hours against fortified worlds defended by troops and defenses specifically designed and trained to wipe them out and they did it with a fraction of the forces that the tyranids use . In warhammer 40k the average life span of a regular guardsmen in flak armor armed only with a lasgun is 16 HOURS . In starcraft the average lifespan of a roided out soldier in power armor wielding an 8mm railgun that hits like an autocannon is JUST.30.SECONDS . If the zerg get even a little bit of time to adapt they can evolve and adapt to anything , even the radiation that was mentioned as a "weakness" has been absorbed into their bodies to strengthen existing units . The zergs ability to evolve is just evolution on steroids and crank .
@IAmAlpharius20
@IAmAlpharius20 4 күн бұрын
@@ds2781 uh, actually that's because Marines are idiots. They literally spent an entire engagement turning around in circles Also, Tyranids also evolve rapidly. Or did the Carnifex sprouting wings and flying in response to boltwr fire slip your mind
@ds2781
@ds2781 4 күн бұрын
@@IAmAlpharius20 That's ONE carnifex , in a single hive fleet , in a single solar system . Not every carnifex , in every hive fleet , every where in the universe . When the tyranids evolve to counter a threat any changes are limited to that single hive fleet located in that particular system and it usually takes weeks to do at a minimum . When the zerg alter themselves it's applied to their ENTIRE SPECIES , EVERYWHERE , INSTANTLY . Also with the tyranids , forcing one creature to rapidly change requires the hivemind to focus on that one individual creature to accelerate the process . With the zerg it just happens automatically with almost no effort in a matter of minutes .
@IAmAlpharius20
@IAmAlpharius20 3 күн бұрын
@@ds2781 source? Tyranids are able to do that easily
@BAGELMENSK
@BAGELMENSK 10 сағат бұрын
The end result of all these terrifying swarms fighting each other would be all of them adapting to become stronger and deadlier in a vicious stalemate, much like the armageddon war in 40k
@Umbra314
@Umbra314 Ай бұрын
Hive stomp. Even ignoring Xivu Arath, who tithes off all war, becoming more powerful each time anything is killed in a war, the other two hive gods would destroy the others, becoming nearly infinitely powerful with the tithing of billions of creatures lives.
@IAmAlpharius20
@IAmAlpharius20 6 күн бұрын
Wait till you realize that there are 12 galaxies worth of Tyranids. Hive mind goes omnomnom
@PolarKnight404
@PolarKnight404 40 минут бұрын
Tyranids definitely can manipulate and use the warp. It’s more accurate to say that the tyranids have just one huge soul, they don’t attract attention in the warp because it would be like me trying to eat an a living elephant. Not to mention the tyranids can completely drown out the warp with their shadow, cutting off any travel or communication, making any psyker lose their mind if they try anything “Should a psyker attempt to use their otherworldly abilities, the cerebral cacophony worsens even further; the psychic sound of a billion alien thoughts scratch at their mind, and unless they are particularly strong-willed they will be pitched into an insanity where they will repeatedly utter phrases in a tongue too alien to properly pronounce.” It even effects daemons to some effects The full psychic might of the hive mind makes it as overpowered as GW wants it to be.
@eljefe485
@eljefe485 Ай бұрын
The only thing insectoid about the hive are the worms or moths that are living inside each one. I would say the fallen are more insectoid. Hive are more zombie and undead themed.
@Joker-77763
@Joker-77763 9 күн бұрын
So what I'm hearing is, if the Tyranids fought Xivu Arath, they'd be screwed
@isaiahannexstein5378
@isaiahannexstein5378 12 күн бұрын
Here is a interesting thought the hive gods still have to feed there worms Oryx: must conquer Xiau warath: must wage war Savathun: must trick or outsmart So if the tyranids ate everyone that could lead to the hive dying anyway
@drewsmith3566
@drewsmith3566 Күн бұрын
I mean it would lead to Xivu Arath maybe but Oryx and Savathun destroyed their worms so this isn’t applicable.
@warlockfangirl
@warlockfangirl 3 күн бұрын
Tyranids have a serious chance against the Hive. In D2, with Oryx dead, we've learned that all one needs to control the Taken is a sufficient will to overpower them. Again, this is only now that he's dead, but I can't help but imagine what would happen if the Tyranids' hive mind was a more powerful will than Oryx alone. I think the Tyranids could wrestle control over the Taken right out from under Oryx. I don't think they could learn to take, nor would they need to, but without the Taken, Oryx is down an army.
@drewsmith3566
@drewsmith3566 Күн бұрын
Yeah you might be forgetting the prerequisite of needing to have the power to control darkness(ie. Savathun losing her control over the taken when she became a lightbearer) which the Tyranids don’t have soooo yeah.
@rexwer8723
@rexwer8723 Ай бұрын
Hive EZ. If we count Oryx as alive he will just take them all. And taken can't die
@naoway336
@naoway336 21 минут бұрын
Kerrigan could solo the hive and the taken.
@frapapeto
@frapapeto 4 күн бұрын
I mean the worm gods are crazy strong and they are technically hive I think
@josephpotteiger6747
@josephpotteiger6747 3 ай бұрын
While I agree that Zerg would die first it really boils down to exactly how the Shadow in the warp interacts with the throne worlds because if it works similar to The Warp they're not going to be able to manifest while inside the shadow in the warp and zoanthropes do stupid crap all the time they could probably Force a way in through brute psychic force.
@naoway336
@naoway336 19 минут бұрын
Zerg got so low balled here it's crazy. Endgame Zerg basically have the job of regrowing all life in the universe and have the powers to back it up.
@raistlarn
@raistlarn 3 ай бұрын
The tyranids will eventually win. Whenever they hit a roadblock they just evolve a way around it like how Hive Fleet Kronos was created to stop the warp rifts and chaos shenanigans. Also there was one slight mistake you made with the lore. There is no calling out when a tyranid hive fleet enters a system. Their shadow in the warp completely smothers out any form of warp communication while also making it nearly impossible to do any warp travel safely. They enter a system eat the biomass and move on while possibly leaving some dormant Genestealers to infect the people that come to investigate why the system went silent.
@TheLordofMetroids
@TheLordofMetroids 3 ай бұрын
Tyrnids One thing to point out, the Doom of Malan'tai eats souls. It eats souls before they can enter a Soulstone. I don't know how fast the soul of a "god," returns to its throne world, but if it takes a while the Nids WILL adapt and figure out a way to eat it. They are already doing this with Demons, and they are pure warp energy. I have no doubt that if it comes down to a battle of attrition the Great Devourer will become stronger, while the Hive only becomes weaker.
@Wormy_fren
@Wormy_fren Ай бұрын
Ah yes the doom of Malan tai.... Who appeared once and basically has never been mentioned since. I dunno man if you ask me poor lil fella is probably retconned or at least canned.
@Cybercoin
@Cybercoin Ай бұрын
Instantly. If you kill a Hive God or Ascendant Hive, they instantly go into their Throne World upon death.
@TheFrozen_Aba
@TheFrozen_Aba 10 күн бұрын
@@Cybercoin and with the conflict between the hive and the tyranids xivu would just keep coming back and keep getting stronger as she feeds off of conflict and every attempt to outsmart the hive would just feed savathun as well and thats not mentioning oryx that would just take the tyranids
@Cybercoin
@Cybercoin 10 күн бұрын
@@TheFrozen_Aba Not sure if he could take Tyranids. He needs something with a mind. From what I gather Tyranids are a hivemind and don't have individuals.
@TheFrozen_Aba
@TheFrozen_Aba 10 күн бұрын
@@Cybercoin that also applies to the vex They're the expression of a memetic pattern and appear to share information in a network. They don't seem self-aware, they don't use symbolic reasoning, so the concept of something like "individual" wouldn't even occur to them and guess what oryx can take them
@jamespaguip5913
@jamespaguip5913 3 ай бұрын
Scrin from command and conquer are biomechanical bugs kinda like tyranids but scrin can shoot lasers.
@jamespaguip5913
@jamespaguip5913 3 ай бұрын
@Buster Mctunder space marine vs zebesian from Metroid would be cool also the scrin from command and conquer are very strong maybe.
@T.DreadnoughtArmor
@T.DreadnoughtArmor 23 күн бұрын
1.:I dont't know much about the tyranids lore but one thing is, they are not "warpless" the shadow is that their presence is so strong that normal psikers will die if they get close to it, and in the video at 11:49 theres a librarian(a psiker astartes) who is defeated by a tyranid "using the warp", to add more this "floating" tyranids are the one reponsable for "linking" every tyranid to the hive mind using the warp, theres other thing but that covers my point ( i think ) 2.:I liked the video 3.:there may be some wrong words on my comentary
@T.DreadnoughtArmor
@T.DreadnoughtArmor 23 күн бұрын
just to add some info. Psykers are beings (except the T'au if i'm not wrong) that can manipulate the energia of the warp at it's will.
@naoway336
@naoway336 18 минут бұрын
Tau can influence the warp it's just more difficult, but they have created a warp entity in the books.
@gambitomega1374
@gambitomega1374 25 күн бұрын
hive, bc the tyranids wouldn't have any counter for the hive gods coming back to life and both xivu and oryx could take all of the zerg and enhance them with darkness.
@jamespaguip5913
@jamespaguip5913 3 ай бұрын
Zebesian from Metroid are very powerful threat in the Metroid series.
@naoway336
@naoway336 3 сағат бұрын
I haven't watched the full vid yet, but most people who compare StarCraft don't do a very good job with the Zerg. They are incredibly op end game.
@naoway336
@naoway336 3 сағат бұрын
Kerrigan becomes a universe level threat capable of of blowing up planets and seeding the universe with life.
@elyaszabri5007
@elyaszabri5007 Ай бұрын
you forgot the shadow of the warp that can block presence of the warp and can also block the worm presence too and also gene stealer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@LegatusLucius2
@LegatusLucius2 Ай бұрын
Every time it's Warhammer badass versus insert IP badass it always ends in this battle will be awesome but nobody wins😂
@dragonlord498
@dragonlord498 Ай бұрын
zerg are pretty much the younger but smarter cousins of the nids in that while they are very similar the zerg actually seem to have the greater potential even if not by a huge amount where the nids have more experiance and numbers but are slightly more limited in how they can evolve and what they can assimilate given certain feral nid strains they refuse to reabsorb so im very certain the nids couldn't assimilate the zerg but the zerg could assimilate nids as well as the nids have lost in contests of bioweapon vs bioweapon before weather its manufactured bioweapons or against other super organisms like life forms of catachan where the zerg don't seem to lose in such competitions and their homeworld was pretty much catachan maybe even somewhat deadlier given many of the primal zerg were also intelligent along with just very deadly. so unless the nids and the hive overcome the zerg instantly the zerg will rapidly start assimilating the other factions biology which can do even just by spreading pathogens and infecting them or even just having creep wveorb or fone into physical contact with them that way plus they can also infect machines which could also depending on the specific scenario also give them a edge as well. And they can ressurect individuals as well if they want. and the current god of the zerg is extremely powerful and intelligent more so then the original leader. also i know nothing about destiny so interesting to learn about the hive
@naoway336
@naoway336 12 минут бұрын
This vid lowballed the Zerg hard. Zerg end game could wreck these forces. Difference between Nid evolution and Zerg evolution is the speed of it. Can't really take over a Zerg as even the zergling is not a single creature its very cells are creatures with their own intelligence literally hunting themselves to evolve. And yeah end game zerg are tasked with repopulating the whole universe.
@noirlight9489
@noirlight9489 5 күн бұрын
You re hardly underestimate zerg
@Cybercoin
@Cybercoin Ай бұрын
Tyranids. As much as I love the Hive in this one. Tyranids are essentially unlimited. Especially if you look at the fact that they are warming the Milky Way...from multiple angles. And the Hive Gods become stronger when they are being tithed to by the ones below them. So that is one way of weakening them if those below them are killed. Xivu Arath, who you didn't mention would be the one that could most likely win in the end. As she feeds of War kind of like Khorne does. Anyway, Lucent Hive DO leave behind a body when killed. All Lightbearers do unless vaporized.
@burntninja450
@burntninja450 25 күн бұрын
How are you not going to add the food in this video? As an unstoppable eldritch horror sci-fi hive mind with magic powers, takes the cake, and then it takes everyone else's cakes, and then it eats everyone else.
@levismith8444
@levismith8444 14 күн бұрын
The more of a virus
@Chillseer
@Chillseer 3 ай бұрын
finally, my least favorite youtuber uploaded something worse than before
@jamespaguip5913
@jamespaguip5913 3 ай бұрын
How is it bad?
@Buster-McTunder
@Buster-McTunder 3 ай бұрын
@@jamespaguip5913 it’s a joke this is one of my Twitch mods
@jamespaguip5913
@jamespaguip5913 3 ай бұрын
@@Buster-McTunder oh what your thoughts on the scrin from command and conquer and the zebesian from Metroid.
@Chillseer
@Chillseer 2 ай бұрын
hawt@@jamespaguip5913
@jamespaguip5913
@jamespaguip5913 3 ай бұрын
Hive
@gono4806
@gono4806 Ай бұрын
Ew bugs
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