Xenonauts 2 (EA v4) - Ep. 33: Holo Victory

[@RandomPassrby]

RIP Takahashi. Suppressed the enemy and got his life suppressed in return. May his fall in battle inspire our rise to victory.

[@discordinmymind6565]

16:26, Cat: "Do not look any further at what upset you, father."

[@Arrow1bowmen]

5:05 hold on that's....a 1% chance of happening, *damn* that sucks 10:03 for a miss, that was still VERY close to the target area XD 15:14 "For me it is some R and R, Rage and Revenge"

[@Exsellsior]

Fusion weapons are deadly. Especially when wielded by Mantids. Low damage shots are the exception.

[@TheArklyte]

Doesn't explain how a 10 damage shot had destroyed a 100+ shield and then did 94 damage over armor. If 10 was an overflow from shield destruction then the average damage on LIGHT fusion weapon would be 120+. Between limited budgets, limited research options and need to prioritise interceptor tech and building bases to cover all continents with radars to even have a chance, the devs can go duck themselves at this point. "Oh, the idea is to lose Xenonauts, you're fighting an invasion after all" Then why we're limited to a dozen guys, who cost a fortune to replace and why enemy ships are packed to the point that they would need to shuffle if one guy would need to move to opposite corner? You want to instil the idea that player can lose anybody at any moment despite not making any tactical mistakes? Okay, give me at least two platoons or rather a whole company then. You can't go for "you're irreplaceable" and "you're expendable" at the same time and expect the player to feel great.

[@ahmadhaziqizzuddinishak3751]

@@TheArklyte The worser part is that despite that we still have to pay these soldiers a monthly salary too as well ontop of the recruiting costs. The very species is in peril, but these people can't just accept free food in the canteen and call it a day.

[@KrullKama]

Well then commander, there’s always another invasion to take care of! Pfff Rngesus is not with us today

[@ahmadhaziqizzuddinishak3751]

Another cruiser captured; shame about the KIA. Still, I think shields are effective, perhaps having every shielder wear Guardian Armor only from here on out, along with bringing spare shields to rotate in when damaged. That is if you know multiple shields can be placed in each backpack, right? The first game made shields as big as rifles, so it should be easy to have one dedicated pack mule dropping them at mission start so that those near useless Sniper and Grenade launcher soldiers have more protection in the UFO assaults. Also a tip is that teleporting does not count as a valid reaction to be fired upon. So aliens and humans can teleport with impunity to get their first shot off. If you need to deny a teleporter, just stand on it really. Telefragging does not exist. Yet.

[@Kaebuki]

Rest in peace Takahashi… Thank goodness Krull is still with us. Those fusion weapons are terrifying. Kae gets injured badly almost every mission too - how much longer can my luck last? In case I ever bite the dust commander: it was an honor serving with you.

[@PhilippBrandAkatosh]

The question is how would the aliens see raider's actions, perhaps like this : kzbin.info/www/bejne/apmpqWmerZWCbZo

[@kharneater778]

Fusion guns seem to be a case of distance decreases damage?

[@discordinmymind6565]

Nice og video title picture

[@RetconRaider]

It felt appropriate. :)

[@discordinmymind6565]

​@@RetconRaiderRip 😞

[@Vipre-]

27:06 Not your fault, it can be hard sometimes telling what's covered by a shield when it comes to diagonal shots.

[@CowCommando]

I think he should have flashed the officer and the mantid as the other seb probably didn't have line of sight to shoot back to begin with.

[@Vipre-]

@@CowCommando If he'd done it from the pad he'd have been safe from any shot. But like I said it's really hard sometimes to tell you're not covered when dealing with angles.

[@Jompabompa]

His sacrifice wont be in vain.

[@stephenbaines4551]

Is it just me shouting 'reload' at the video?

[@RetconRaider]

Ha ha, I felt like I was actually pretty on-top of it this time. Didn't run into any moments where I tried to fire, only to realize my gun was dry. :)

[@stephenbaines4551]

@@RetconRaider You caught it going up the elevator, its just when crowded round the door ready to go in tot he ship, I noticed a few were empty, and you were not using the turn units for anything else.

[@CowCommando]

It's not just you and it's not just this video, but he has been getting better.

[@ombrepourpre7562]

Nop 😂

[@Robovski]

Check it out now

[@thecannuck7579]

Hey retcon did you happen to kick start this game ? If so did you get your own character in the game ??

[@RetconRaider]

Sadly, no, this one slipped past me and wasn't accepting late pledges by the time I noticed it. :)

[@thecannuck7579]

@@RetconRaider well that sucks. thankfully i was able to get me into the game. first time i ever done this. i get to be the hero in my own games. lol

[@JanezKranjski-z9q]

is jet pack just cheaper way to climb also no need for ladders?

[@RetconRaider]

It does seem that way. Only down side is the very minor bit of extra carry weight. Well, that and the research gating, of course. Can't get them before you down your first Observer and research electronics. :)

[@discordinmymind6565]

Are you able to knock out civilians in order to not lose out on panic reduction?

[@RetconRaider]

Huh, never really thought to try. I *have* heard that a future update will have them try to evac towards your dropship, though, which is a small step in the right direction.

[@discordinmymind6565]

@@RetconRaider yeah, casue I remember ppl in the first game doing that to save their troops that were going to bleed out before medical or if they didn't want to risk losing a soldier

[@SilencerGDA]

@RetconRaider this feature should be public now? Can't say for sure. There are a lot of updates on the experimental build, and AFAIK few "major" updates went public.

[@RetconRaider]

@@SilencerGDA I do tend to avoid the experimental updates until they hit a stable branch, so I might not have it yet. :)

[@SilencerGDA]

@@RetconRaider Patch 25 was recently released to the public so I think you should be able to run to the civi, and order him to move to the ship. Try it on next mission you will record.

[@rebekalandwehr7886]

Reb made it through another killing spree. Reb luck comes through again, but no subsequent normal relaxing in the Med bay this time.

[@KrullKama]

Oooh! I didn’t finish the vid! Hey commander, does that mean I get to have the ice cream in the med-bay?

[@RetconRaider]

Of course. :D

[@KrullKama]

@@RetconRaiderI mean canonically, my character becomes the first MEC-trooper in XCOM, and my buddy jokes that I’m a phylactery already. Does this count as a spinal fusion? You could say they were using a real… SUN-of a gun…

[@SilencerGDA]

Gauss Weapons are the equivalent of plasma. I told you, you might get it before laser upgrade 😉

[@Erikreaver]

Witnessed, Takahashi! V8! V8!

[@claudito208]

Fusion is indeed higher tier than Gauss.

[@drakron]

Well, you did want some new recruits ....

[@edgarrobinson1474]

See them before they see you... Guardian armor... Officer had 275 hp you need better weps too...;-) (guass)

[@edgarrobinson1474]

The Buzzard changes the entire tactical situation, troops can jump over walls/trees/buildings instead of running around them saving tu's. It also allows your snipers/troops to "go high" without finding a ladder. Recommend research Adv Stun weps, upgraded stun pistol does much more stun dmg than current wep. and there's a rifle but the grenades are 'king" for cap...;-) 2 stun nades and a guass pistol shot usually does for most blackhats. and yes you have a lot of research to do yet..;-(

[@servedcold]

RIP Takahashi

[@jachse8464]

Tis but a flesh wound.

[@uther10]

Wowow crazy episode.

[@SilencerGDA]

Average damage of Fusion Rifle is 77, I believe. Not only that, but they bypass all of your current armour. Heck, I was oneshotted using power armour

[@TheArklyte]

Doesn't explain how a 10 damage shot had destroyed a 100+ shield and then did 94 damage over armor. If 10 was an overflow from shield destruction then the average damage on LIGHT fusion weapon would be 120+. Between limited budgets, limited research options and need to prioritise interceptor tech and building bases to cover all continents with radars to even have a chance, the devs can go duck themselves at this point. "Oh, the idea is to lose Xenonauts, you're fighting an invasion after all" Then why we're limited to a dozen guys, who cost a fortune to replace and why enemy ships are packed to the point that they would need to shuffle if one guy would need to move to opposite corner? You want to instil the idea that player can lose anybody at any moment despite not making any tactical mistakes? Okay, give me at least two platoons or rather a whole company then. You can't go for "you're irreplaceable" and "you're expendable" at the same time and expect the player to feel great.

[@RetconRaider]

Hm, can't say I'm a fan about the aliens upgrading to weapons that just render your armor useless at midgame. That really feels like it just breaks the established progression system.

[@SilencerGDA]

@TheArklyte it's easy. Armor doesn't count vs fusion. Weapons have AP capability while armor has anti AP capability. If weapons AP is greater than armors, the shot bypases all the armor. Retcon failed on the research department hard. Having only 2 labs I believe. He went too wide, because he wanted to accommodate most viewers, which I don't judge him for that.

[@SilencerGDA]

@RetconRaider yeah I know not to mention armor degradation after each hit. I was against that system on the forums but there were too many voices that approved this.

[@TheArklyte]

@@SilencerGDA where exactly had he went "too wide", eh? You CAN'T afford more labs unless you just abandon interceptors. You can't upgrade ground troops if you abandon interceptors too. And do you know what happens when you abandon interceptors? You lose. Please, elaborate where should he had "shaved off and optimised" with available resources, I'm listening. Let me guess, selling all the alenium instead of using it? Oh wait, that doesn't help since you can't send two helis/dropships to one site. You need tech advantage. Which you already needed to down the ship. Except you needed it in interceptors. So now you needed two tech advantages simultaneously. And you can't just have tech, you need to build it. So you need money. For team, for dropship, for interceptors, for labs and for bases. Where exactly have we missed such a massive source of income in early game that would have allowed all of that, oh the Wise One?

[@mclouj]

The episodes where the stakes are high are the best ones. RIP Takahashi.

[@dren608]

It isn't a timed mission, you don't need to push so fast

[@RetconRaider]

Eh, part of it is about the constant pressure to keep things moving for the sake of video pacing. :)

[@dren608]

@RetconRaider I have a series going on M4 as well, I just chapter mark on long combat missions they take about an hour so not much longer than you are doing