Xiaomi 15 Full Review: Yes, Still The King of 6.3-inch Phones. But No Surprises.

[@GizmoChinaTube]

Buy it here: www.geekwills.com/xiaomi-15.html 👉 Save $20 with this code: M15

[@mrcrypticx1]

Can we get global roms on geemwills?

[@albertohokuto96]

Is it unlocked or china?? It's important to specify it

[@Tech-Oclock]

I placed an order on October 31st, and since then, it’s been incredibly difficult to contact them-they only respond to emails. Now, on November 13th, they’ve stopped replying altogether. It’s frustrating because every time I reach out, they assure me it will ship “today,” but it never does. I’m starting to feel like I’ve been scammed, and it’s even worse that I paid with a debit card. Will edit if ever I receive my order

[@ManzoorHameed]

Can I buy this phone from Saudi Arabia. Is it unlocked and gets OTA updates?

[@WilsonKwong83]

One big thing you should have emphasized more on is the 6200mAh My Samsung S24 Ultra unplugged at 7am, could last me till I get home at 7-7:30pm, and I'd usually have around 25-30% battery left. With my Mi 15 Pro, this thing would have 55-60%. It's ridiculously good.

[@TVakula]

What is about smaller one?

[@WilsonKwong83]

​@@TVakula I don't know. I bought the Pro version because of the battery. The camera isn't that good, but I'm using Gcam and it's beautiful.

[@TVakula]

@WilsonKwong83 for me it is too bog phone

[@SilentGamer1993]

Xiaomi's durability is no joke , legit got a redmi k40s dropped a few times twice a hard drop and screen still intact without cracks 😅

[@ninjatall15]

Same with my K60 Pro

[@AlligatorAli]

Same with my K20 pro.

[@hypno0784]

Yep, my old Redmi 9 Prime was harassed to death in its 2 years of use but has no cracks whatsoever.

[@kroodle8]

But like the same company makes both phones and the cheaper offshoot of Xiaomi probably isn't stronger just that you got lucky when you dropped it

[@SilentGamer1993]

@@kroodle8 lmao tf

[@revgamingindo]

I just bought the 14T Pro and probably won't switch, very happy with the phone

[@HuaweiP30-xn2cd]

I have 14t pro, but my eyes hurt, when I look at the screen in dim light. Screen looks really reflective and pins my eyes, plus it have some blueish, greyish tint, do you have the same? except of this its the best phone I've ever had.

[@revgamingindo]

@HuaweiP30-xn2cd interesting because I don't have any of those problem in dim light, but I changed some of the display setting one is the adaptive colors on color scheme menu, also I set reading mode to good night's read.

[@HuaweiP30-xn2cd]

@@revgamingindo I also have reading mode on (with more then normal yellowish tint, it is my prefered setting), I will try adaptive colors, maybe this will help. For me screen just "shines", even if its really dim - 0% brightness, it hurts, not from light but from this strange shiny effect

[@ShoaibKurdi]

@@HuaweiP30-xn2cd I think there was an app called "dark" or something that helped with this, can't remember it exactly

[@xaxorine477]

I'm in love with the Xiaomi 14's design. I just wish that the flashlight from Xiaomi 15 wasnt removed from the camera island.

[@ffbeast4555]

In my opinion its better idk its weird to put the flashlight into a lense

[@notchipotle]

I'll keep my xiaomi 14 for now, waiting for xiaomi 16 or maybe S26 if samsung leave their shitty exynos chipset in the past and admit that they can't make a good chip

[@amribigjohn7838]

Yeah bro it is a disappointment when they put the exynos chip in S24 and S24+

[@amribigjohn7838]

Yeah bro it is a disappointment when they put the exynos chip in S24 and S24+

[@eyeshezzy]

Still using Redmi Note10 pro. I have dropped it severally on ceramic tiles and cement floor, the screen is still intact 4years later without a screen protector

[@catsaway1]

I have the note 10 pro yoo and love it , I have also dropped it a couple of times and cracked the back ,I have held it all together with sellotape no problem. When Xiaomi have a phone as good as this one in its day I will definitely take a look , but it must have macro zoom. X

[@livethiswayTV]

I lost my note 10😢 but I have a note13 pro+ now hahah

[@xtalpax902]

My display gave up last month due to a fall, now im using my old huawei p10, waiting for the new phones to come out

[@sanukrishna8560]

You people didn't get motherboard issue... 😢 My redmi note 10 pro back cam got damaged by Android 13 update 😢

[@eyeshezzy]

@sanukrishna8560 none at all and i use my phone so much that i have to charge it twice daily

[@Singularity-b2t]

Now the millions dollar question is. Does the foggy lens still happening in 15?

[@GizmoChinaTube]

We haven't had this problem with either our Xiaomi 14 or 15. No one on the internet has complained about foggy lenses in Xiaomi 15 yet either. I think... It should be fixed. If we find a way to test it, I'll let you guys know in the Xiaomi 15 Pro Review.

[@Singularity-b2t]

@GizmoChinaTube That is something reassuring. I had to get a refund because of this issue. 14 was a fantastic experience for me, if not because this issue it is a perfect phone for me.

[@Kushalraj07]

​@@Singularity-b2ti still using it & not have i once encountered that problem in fact that i still keep it in back of my mind Even though I knw i don't have that problem in my unit because of all the once that had it but still it's a Osm device yoo 😅 just the battery 🔋 life is not Ment for me 2 charges per day

[@jokjoan]

Sounds like you only watch tech news videos and not own a xiaomi device.

[@Kushalraj07]

@@jokjoan well Who do u bee asking that question ⁉️ to because both of us do 👀

[@RovianGameplays]

Honestly i like the 14 photography more, 15 seems way over-exposed, but has a bit more details.

[@FilipedLr]

I also preferred the 14 photos

[@AndroidGameTuto]

it's because it got a big aperture now

[@blackopps01]

@@AndroidGameTuto how big? the 14 pro is f1.4 thez get it down to f1.2?

[@blackopps01]

me too, and 14 pro also have a variable aperture from f1.4 to f4

[@WilsonKwong83]

You should try the Gcam. I am using Gcam for my 15 Pro, it's a lot more balanced, and nights shots are a lot nicer

[@big_smoke7t]

3:33 hmm, my Xiaomi 13 pro with 8 gen 2 still gets around 59fps under 40°C. These two get well over 45°C. Temperatures haven't been improved since 8 gen 2?

[@muhammadrifaie9577]

That's what I like abt 8 Gen 2, it's still really good today, a huge improvement over Gen 1/+Gen 1 and it was a very stable chipset temperature wise unlike 8 Gen 3

[@majong_da]

How you can improve temperatures if it relies on room temperature and additionally passive cooling? Also 40 is fool temperature, of its virtual sensor which computes phone body temperature based on physical thermal sensors. it may be battery temperature. SoC itself usually as hot as 75-80°. Again, you can cool it dropping ambient temperature or trottling the processes

[@Dr.K-vp6fc]

Bro my 13 pro never gets hot to the touch either, and no frame drops too. I mostly play in room temp and It's quite impressive actually. And when I choose to play in an air conditioned room, the phone just refuses to get warm. I'd say Xiaomi nailed this one with 8 gen 2(considering their Xiaomi 14 was a thermal nightmare). 2023 was a good year for Android phones.

[@big_smoke7t]

@@Eihei my ambient temperature is always around 25°C.

[@gamebosan5965]

8 gen 2 always good performance. i prefer this chipset too

[@big-gloom]

Thanks finally a good review for this phone. I would love an in depth comparison to the Vivo X200 Pro Mini.

[@izcondoralexander]

I will go with the vivo x200 pro mini. Their x100 pro camera looks stunning

[@SuperComics1934]

@@izcondoralexander also has better battery backup + zeiss lens are too good compared to xiaomi's leica lens

[@niphanif]

​@@izcondoralexanderI like Xiaomi the most but I too would go for x200 pro mini because Xiaomi battery performance is bad (it used to be good until 2020)...5k mAh Xiaomi phones feels like 3k mAh..

[@karlos777x]

How about the software support on vivo?

[@AnuraagKumarr]

​@@karlos777x consistent from past two years

[@BleepBloop-rl2pv]

Is the xiaomi 15 sold on geekwills a global rom?

[@Maochan81]

I wish they stayed with 75mm lens or something around that. But great to see the improvements to white balance, portrait mode and sharpness. The "small" phones category is getting crowded this year (pixel 9 pro, vivo x200 pro mini...).

[@big_smoke7t]

Hate to break it to you but unfortunately Xiaomi 14 also does not have a "real" 75mm lens, it was a crop from 62mm(For 14 pro it's 67mm). In fact, most Xiaomi flagships don't have a real advertised 3.2x focal length (13 ultra, 14, 14 pro). The only Xiaomi flagships that have a very real 75mm lens are Xiaomi 13 Pro and Xiaomi 14 Ultra. (That's why you could zoom till 70x on 13 pro, and 60x on 14 cux 13 pro's lens technically has a better quality when digitally zoomed further).

[@Maochan81]

@@big_smoke7t Oh, i see. Thanks for the info. I actually have the 13 Pro. Really enjoy the 75mm lens. At some point I was thinking of getting the regular 14 thinking it has the same lens but smaller package.

[@big_smoke7t]

@@Maochan81 no problem! I also do have the 13 pro, I first changed to 14 as I had the same thought as you and wanted a compact sized phone. But I was disappointed to find out that the telephoto was a downgrade and the compact size with 8 gen 3 was not handling the temps well, it was overheating frequently. I ended up getting back the 13 pro and got rid of the 14. I'd say that 14 has a better selfie video output but that's about it, the rear cameras wise 13 pro feels more natural. The 14 imo, has a bit of oversharpening going on(which I don't enjoy), especially with the nerfed telephoto. But it all comes down to personal preference ofc, I just enjoy the 13 pro more. And the ceramic back is nice to the touch.

[@dusanjovanovic1841]

​@@big_smoke7tI also have Xiaomi 13 Pro and can say that it does not have 75mm, it is the same as 13 Ultra, around 62mm. Only phone with 75mm is actually 14 Ultra. Both main and telephoto sensors are being cropped on 13 Pro, you can see that by zooming in from UW camera (in MIUI camera), the switch to main happens at 0.9x and switch to telephoto is at 2.9x. Which means the main is around 21mm (cropped to 23mm) and telephoto around 62mm (cropped to 75mm).

[@pangoytalala4886]

​@@big_smoke7tbro giveaway the Xiaomi 14 to us who can't afford😢......we don't care about the issues.

[@AnonymousT7]

I got a Xiaomi 14 and really love it. The only downside for me is the camera. In certain circumstances its too overexposed and has too little contrast. This sometimes leads to pictures that are too bright overall. In artificial light (e.g. at home) the white balance often varies between shots that are taken within a second or two. I wish the camera was more reliable and hope this is fixed with the Xiaomi 15

[@gabrieleporto7705]

Love your reviews, as always. Thanks for your work. Are you gonna review the op13?

[@IcedCoffeeJam]

Watching this with my Xiaomi 15 pro. Soo happy I bought this before end of yr!! 😍🔥

[@azuDemagen]

Great review. The only letdown for me is that Snap8 ISP haven't solved 'HDR halo' issue.

[@sumanpaul4285]

I love Xioami... Ever since i started using Redmi note 4.. I never used any other brand other than Xioami

[@ronniejaye1]

I just got a pixel 9 pro , side by side it runs circles around the s24 in actual use and no overheating with amazing battery life. Don't even start about the tensor hate unless you've actually used it , then you'd be convinced .

[@BruceLeeRoy26]

I’ve owned two tensor backed phones (6 Pro and 7 Pro) they sucked. If you’re saying “well now you need to try the NEWEST phone” then I’ll retort that maybe Google should’ve waited til now to release their custom chip instead of treating people like R&D

[@HuaweiP30-xn2cd]

so pictures of pixel 9 pro are much better than s24?

[@shoaibmohammadali4324]

Used pixel 6a. Tensor sucks. Had to switch to a Xiaomi 14. Miss stock android though

[@RodrigoFerreira-bs6hd]

The tensor soc is objectively awful.

[@gnewgnew2011]

Tensor is a rebrand of Exynos.

[@v3nom780]

I trust oppo more than Xiaomi. Also the OS of Xiaomi kinda sucks. They look great outside, but the Software and everything else lack alot.

[@OG-PRATEEK-]

Custom rom community in Xiaomi .. giving Android 15 on 8 years old redmi note 6 pro

[@greybeard716]

Np one buys a 800-900$ phone to put custom roms in it ​@@OG-PRATEEK-

[@nikhildevani5938]

​Xiaomi has decided to stop bootloader unlocking in 2025, so yeah no more development for the newer models .​@@OG-PRATEEK-

[@OG-PRATEEK-]

@@nikhildevani5938 nootloader unlocking only restricted for china devices sir dont spread misinfo

[@UsususuJeaj-f5f]

It doesn't sucks ur life sucks

[@GrilledChickenRamyun]

Idk why people complain alot with Miui. I never had any issues. One bloatwares can be deleted, ads can be disable etc

[@rufusnwoko7630]

the xiaomi 15 on geekwills come with android 15?

[@HuaweiP30-xn2cd]

Is xiaomi 15 better than vivo x200 mini in terms of: pictures quality, thermals, battery life? I'm not sure of it :(

[@irugadark123]

Does cold environment mode only exclusive to xiaomi 15 or will it be available to all hyperos 2 devices?

[@MegaLol2xd]

how about vivo x200 mini? isn't it better? especially cameras.

[@skyrimdj3620]

Should be better in camera yeah unless you're really into that lieca feeling A comparison between the two phones would be very interesting

[@Havsue]

It's better in camera battery and basically about everything, even the price are. Slightly lower than xiaomi

[@skyrimdj3620]

@@Havsue Xiaomi got ultrasonic fingerprint and usb 3.2 gen 1 Battery and camera are better on the vivo Performance about on par

[@hitmarker777]

​@@skyrimdj3620the fuctouch is ui is still in 2020. Hyper is 2.0 is better

[@Diederik.Alexander]

In my opinion xiaomi Mi 10 ultra is the G.O.A.T No other phone released from xiaomi can match the MI 10 ultra

[@thenameisnits]

14 ultra?!

[@1cecreampize197]

@@thenameisnits 10

[@Diederik.Alexander]

@@thenameisnits it has all the latest specifications but it is not the best smartphone xiaomi has ever made

[@kaiserfakinaway5909]

@@Diederik.Alexander rose tinted glasses. The 14 Ultra is the most polished xiaomi ever and has the Leica style which is exceptional.

[@johnalfredgare1723]

Awesome! What about software support, how many years will it get? Thanks!

[@heliosak]

What about the software update policy?

[@digitbuy]

About 2-3 years

[@pudinichigo91]

at least 4 years OS update if it still the same as predecessor

[@Dr.K-vp6fc]

If it is the same as Xiaomi 14, then it's 4 years Android OS updates and 5 years security updates,

[@SouvikDutta-d8t]

does it has lens fogging issue just like Xiaomi 14?

[@Tropicalgodzilla]

No

[@suntanglory]

Does this xiaomi 15 have video display out?Thank you.

[@spookytv4044]

3:27 how did you measure the fps, please!!!

[@RodrigoFerreira-bs6hd]

I much prefer the Xiaomi 14's camera professing. For example, the darker background 5:54

[@Qimchiy]

I love my Xiaomi 14 BUT I wanna know if the 15's SiC battery is fully compatible with the 14 since it's slightly physically smaller and has the same 2 connectors. Might be a nice upgrade without changing phones since there's still a few software updates to come.

[@ManzoorHameed]

How is the battery life in Xiaomi 14?

[@user-vv7rr6oc2f]

Still using Redmi Note 8t 😎🤘 Does Xiaomi 15 also have DC dimming option like 14 🙄

[@spinthewin]

Is that site selling global version of Xiaomi 15??

[@erle7544]

Thanks for the review! Do you have more insides for the battery life. How does it compare to the xiaomi 14 on a full day use?

[@zdravevicijus]

It seems nobody doesn't care,just camera 😂

[@rahul2050ism]

Xiaomi's pathetic software support is the reason I hate my x14. It requires so much improvement in camera and they improved image processing on x15 but what about x14?? Waste of money.

[@johntom23]

Don't buy anymore

[@IMUSTHCOOSEANEWNAMEB]

can we get HBM nits instead of some weird X % of the screen, thanks for the review!

[@some_random_penguin]

Does the Xiaomi 15 actually have a 50mp telephoto? Because the Xiaomi 14 had a 32mp telephoto upscaled to 50mp

[@Eihei]

Meh, i don't like the flatter look of the photos, they severely lack in contrast when compared to 14. Is there an option to adjust the settings in camera app to increase the contrast and saturation, something like in Master Mode on OnePlus 12?

[@mokisan]

1:56 thank you so much will. As someome who is an advocate for more choice to the user the lack of sd card and headphone jack still makes me seethe Also in many photos i prefer the X14? 🤔 yes in some photos the white balance looks better in X15 Thanks for the great video Will 👍

[@amirtss1946]

how many updates it gets in future?

[@anonybadis]

does this phone have video out over usb c ?

[@thelastyaksha]

Great review. Can't wait for the other new flagships reviews and comparisons. You guys have a lot to do.

[@AnonymousT7]

How is standby drain in Xiaomi 15?

[@masashiyeo]

Currently on CMF phone 1, may go for this or OnePlus 13.

[@kingGumMyB3aR]

Watching this review on my Xiaomi 13t pro now. Still a good phone, good camera. One complain I have is that the hyperOS messed up Rayban Meta call feature. I can no longer use the shades for calls.

[@jayaprakash-oi4qd]

which camera is good..!? Xiaomi 15 or OnePlus 13..!??

[@ziizto]

Xiaomi

[@PhilipinMi]

When will the global version release?

[@Adam.07]

Xiaomi 15 or oneplus 13 which phone has a better camera?

[@muzikmack174]

What about the foggy camera lens issue from X14, fixed now hopefully?

[@stormpegasisfan]

Wow, this was a very in depth review man, specially on the cameras. Great job and thanks!

[@jkt968]

Thank you for the review. when is the possible global launch?

[@jinhuigoh-lm4pm]

can xiaomi 15 compare to xiaomi14 ultra in camera?

[@justeddm]

Is OS 2 coming to Xiaomi 14

[@Andus345]

@gizmochina would it be reasonable to start using Wuthering Waves over genshin impact as the new benchmark to gauge just how powerful the new hardware on these new phones are? I already know I can run Genshin perfectly fine on anything higher than a Snapdragon gen 1. I'd rather know how well the more spec demanding Wuthering waves run on a phone now.

[@big_smoke7t]

Please include the master lens portrait modes next time, that's what Lecia is well known for.

[@ChiekoGamers]

I have the Xiaomi 13 and it's really compact and light in the hands. I wish all phones are like this.

[@RodrigoFerreira-bs6hd]

How has it been holding up?

[@BenjoBoyTheGreat]

will there be a X15 PRO version coming?

[@ajean192]

How about the software support? Of this phone? 3-4 yrs?

[@infochannel8705]

If the same as Mi 14 then 4 years major software and 5 years security update

[@TheLoneRhino]

Please check the foggy lens issue... Put the phone in freezer for 30 minutes, take it out and use the camera

[@mykeeekeee]

China version now supports Android auto yet like vivo does??

[@Sahab1998]

chinese domestic model have google play store or not ?

[@ifaxntxbgccfac]

Yeah it does, there's a switch option in settings

[@digitbuy]

Great review.

[@M_ryJoy]

I've seen comparisons of xiaomi 15 and 15 pro max. I was not surprised about the camera quality being mehhh with the best chipset and cheap price. If people use camera more than playing games go for xiaomi 14,14t,14t pro or maybe iPhone 14-15. But if you are more on gaming only and do not care about camera go for xiaomi 15

[@SaiemAhmed-du2ki]

When can we expect review of honor magic 7/7 pro?

[@bruno88]

Great review! Thank you!

[@adrianhillan1173]

Minim upgrade for camera sensor, similar to 14T Pro 😅

[@fred3259]

Nice review. Thanks!

[@Indiarisesagain]

You have another KZbin channel?

[@________hehe_______754]

Lol, i keep telling my dad to upgrade to the 15 from his 14 just bcuz i want his 14😂, im using the 13 pro btw

[@conceptcs]

Not everyone is a previous XM13 and XM14 owner. I'm coming from another brand so the XM15 is perfect.

[@Assi_꿀봉]

How about foggy lenz issue?

[@SteeperMouse40]

Hi, How can I buy this in Canada? Thanks

[@Blockthecreeper]

Wait for the global release that should be coming early next year, it takes them a long time to get the global release out

[@Minepixeler24]

If you upgrade step-by-step it doesn't look the big difference from the previous version.

[@momaitamuli]

Xiaomi is doing fantastic work 👍

[@dimancor2925]

Why is everyone so focused on smooth animations in their latest Android forks all of a sudden? Android 15 itself never mentioned it.

[@smetljesm2276]

It's worthy upgrade. As a 14 owner I have a few questions: 1. Can it do 4k60fps and HDR on main camera? 2.What are the quick zoom modes in Portrait mode? 3. And most importantly does it still over expose image as soon as it detects a face in the scene? 4. Is there a saturation setting in Pro mode under custom profiles? Hope you can answer them.

[@kawahussein3061]

This is the phone i want to have.

[@_oriTech_]

since i stumble over the 15 and watched tons of videos and read a lot about this phone i find myself more and more in love with the design. i dont like small phones im on a pixel 8 pro privat and business on the s24u but the s24u feels like a brick and i wanted to replace it.... this looks like a good option it also looks like the camera is not better or worst than from the s24u. would love to have the 15 pro but i guess, there will be no europe version of it -.-

[@30apexsys7]

The vivo has better camera hardware and possibly results. With a more efficient chip (in some tests) and much better service and quality control in my region ❤

[@serrael-182]

Its not sold in germany but xiaomi has often very good deals here after a few months :D

[@Kushalraj07]

😅 these days can't argue on the Best Photography on Vivo because dam they are Osm by-far then any i used to like

[@viyusavery248]

​@@Kushalraj07 what does osm mean?

[@Kushalraj07]

@@viyusavery248 😂 Ü serious 👀 well it means something Beautiful or Existing to see

[@30apexsys7]

@Kushalraj07 yeah their cameras even without the 1 inch sensor are really good

[@RockRider2k]

The only thing i'd love to be fixed is camera hole - i'm dresming of having it like on xiaomi 9t

[@HeartzBreaker07]

What about the fogging issue ???

[@johntom23]

Lie. Urban legend of trolls

[@Nivram-c3x]

Why xiaomi did not put the mi logo at the back

[@imhomeless6902]

Xiaomi 15 or vivo x200 mini?

[@gamebosan5965]

after look it.. i will stay on xiaomi 11t pro.. still good natural color produced. waiting for 15t pro if good or not.

[@yutubprem5792]

PLEASE COMPARE WITH VIVO X200 PRO MINI

[@wasiahmed1547]

What about foggy lens issue? Why are you skipping it? You should talk about such issues as people buy phones according to you people’s reviews.

[@SunsetNova]

Is it better than Vivo X200 Pro Mini which is also small size?

[@livethiswayTV]

Xiaomi has a very fatal flaw for me. The direction indicator doesn't appear google maps! Has this issue been fixed yet!?

[@AndrewAP46]

It works now. My K60 Pro with HyperOS 1.0.13 (stock China rom, no official Global rom for this model).

[@amalxflash]

How about the camera fogging issue

[@johntom23]

Don't exist. Urban legend of trolls

[@ahmedmagdy135]

i think you are missing vivo x200 pro mini because this is the best 6.3 phone ever !

[@kastriotgjeloshgjokaj6923]

I hate that on the x14 they put a 4600 mah batery and now somehow on the x15 they menaged tò put a 5400 mah while maintaing the same size

[@joyrixgaming1760]

You should make a comparison video of vivox200 pro mini and Xiaomi 15

[@amradel2706]

Why did they remove IR sensor?

[@pudinichigo91]

because they put it in camera island

[@NicksStuff]

Sadly, the S25 *won't* use a silicium carbon battery, so I imagine the Xiaomi 15 is a better phone

[@gafahmful]

Is esim available in xiaomi 15

[@Tropicalgodzilla]

Yes

[@OBAMASAURUS9]

1:55 u just took the words out of my mouth,the companys should bring back earphone jack or union countries should force to to launch phones with 3.5mm jacks. cause im not a big fan of everything wireless

[@pudinichigo91]

you either need to move on or just buy sony phone or some others midrange phone from other brands is you still need those audio jack

[@OBAMASAURUS9]

@pudinichigo91 yes,but thanks to some companies like red magic,asus rog,lenovo legion the still support earhone jack nd hope they support always

[@gwramim4807]

How many update?

[@Soraviel]

Xiaomi 15 will get 4 major Android updates and 5 years of security updates.

[@Gcyrusin]

That's probably the most a user will use that phone lol ​@@Soraviel

[@MrValefor187]

20 band in on the China market?