Xiom Icecream AZX and AZX i Blade Review

[@TableTennisDaily]

Two fantastic blades by XIOM! Let us know in the comments if you use this blade and what you think of the NEW hybrid carbon concept? 🔥

[@greenLinkLP]

Hey Dan, are you going to review the harimoto blade? Maybe with harimoto himself? Or just you and tom.

[@smc_sennpaii999]

Love the review Dan but quick question wasn't there a review with dimitrij that u did recently... What happened to it out of curiosity?

[@TableTennisDaily]

Hey Joe we should be reviewing this blade a bit later this year :) Stay tuned :)

[@TableTennisDaily]

Hey Noah, yes that's right. The review will be released very soon :)

[@mlgcomboz1882]

TableTennisDaily hey dan, do you think tenergy rubbers would go along well with this blade? Thanks in advance

[@tobiasschafer7132]

Lately, I have been playing the Xiom Icecream AZX, and to me, the ALC is definitely the stronger, faster and more powerful side, which is especially noticeable a few steps away from the table, as s hots are just longer with less effort than with the ZLC side. This experience also matches Xiom's description of the blade. I use exactly the same rubber (Nittaku Fastarc G-1, 2.0 mm) on both sides). Previously, I have been playing the Stiga Ebenholz NCT V (also with the Fastarc G-1 and C-1, 2.0 mm), and I was surprised to find out that even as an all-wood blade it is noticeably more powerful and faster than the Icecream AZX.

[@Afropalmen]

Bought the AZXi becouse of this review becouse all it said about it sounded GREAT! Been having it for 3 month and I freaking love it! Am so much more confident at the table!

[@ondrejtesar7031]

What rubber do you use?

[@patela21]

Butterfly disliked the video 😂

[@SultanAlawad]

Why? It's just a pat.

[@oxtt4314]

I've been using the azx for over a month now. Swapped from a killer spin jet 800 which I'd modified with tibhar aurus prime on the fore and aurus soft on the back. It was a fast and spinny combo. However the azx, which I have both sides as xiom omega 7 Pro, is even faster. I don't think it's as spinny, but its so direct I find that it makes the ball feel as though its traveling a lot faster. Again I had the same issue is Dan, for the first three weeks I couldn't open up fully on the forehand side and kept hitting long when I tried. The backhand felt natural from the start although again I had issues getting the flick right on the backhand, until I realised it just needed a small adjustment from my last blade. Once I figured that out the backhand flick was even easier than my previous blade. All round I love this blade. I've fully adjusted to it now and I feel it gives me a lot in every area of my game, even short shots that require soft touch and feeling. Omega 7 isn't the most spinny of rubbers but they do pick up back spin really easily.

[@PawelTableTennis]

A lot of fun in this video! Good job guys!

[@TokeNygaard]

Your reviews make me happy

[@tommaynard8101]

Thanks Toke, glad you enjoy them, lots more coming soon!

[@JaimeChen0307]

I have the AZX and I loved it. Like Dan said it does not have much dwell time but I’m mainly smash rather than loop with my playing style anyway so it suits me

[@jaff77]

xiom handles are very good. Even though am not a carbon fan, they both seem quite easy to handle. Good job Dan and Tom.

[@tommaynard8101]

Thanks Jaffar, yes very high quality blades and handles for sure!

[@jaff77]

Will be nice to see some Nittaku reviews, preferably of the Violin Carbon and /or Acoustic Carbon.

[@ionutbadea4652]

I recently use this blade xiom azx with tenergy 05 rubber. Indeed, its a special blade. Blade is good on all aries of play like blocks, chooping , pushing and of cours its very good on rallies. Xiom azx have a very nice feeling. I use the zlc side on the FH and for my BH because its more softer I use ALC. The quality of shot its premium. I recommand this blade for advance players because blade require a good tehnique on the stroke. Best regards and keep doing this reviews.

[@dfy]

Ionut Badea what about the AZXi For an intermediate player? How is the sweet spot? And control? Especially verse the popular Timo Boll ALC..

[@jarlaxle_ua]

​@@dfy I purchased the AZXi a month ago. Just a week ago, I also purchased Omega 7 Asia (FH) and Euro (BH). At first it was slightly difficult to control the ball because of the speed (after switching from an allround blade). A few training sessions after the purchase I started to appreciate the quality, speed and spin of this blade. I am still in the discovery phase, because everything including the rubber is quite new for me + I am trying to experiment with both sides (switching ALC, and ZLC sides for BH and FH). So far ZLC (the softer and more controllable side) turned out to be better for my FH and ALC is better for the BH (for blocking and sometimes topspins). I like to have controllable blades (coming from the all wood blades) and this one does its job quite well (I wouldn't try AZX, I think it would be too fast for me at this point). Finally, I want to try switching Euro and Asia rubbers to find the optimal setup. My friend is using Timo Boll ALC with Tenergy 05 and MX-P and for me it is too fast and less controllable. We are both intermediate players. I do like my blade much more than the Timo Boll one. We play on the same level, but I think because of more control I manage to win 70% of the games with him.

[@dfy]

Bogdan Pashynskyi I made the purchase! It took only a couple weeks to get used to and surprisingly my game has improved as well. Usually doesn’t work like that. Had to get used to the speed while also using tenergy 05 fx (FH-ALC side) and dignics 05 (BH-ZLC side). Review coming! m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4KYqn2DoMxsg6c

[@peachcat2812]

i bought the axz version the handle feels amazing the zlc feels sooo good

[@DSKHo1968]

Thanks for another fantastic review. Now I know the difference between the 2! Was looking at buying one of the blades, looking like the AZXi would be better for me as I am still very much developing my stroke!

[@pauldelgado8466]

Please, a review of the XIOM ZETRO QUAD for me is the best blade Xiom...

[@adindacakraningrat5613]

Great review Dan and Tom. Like it.

[@bobpuls]

you did have a lot of fun .... so they have to be good . thanks

[@andreasljunggrennet]

PLEASEEE can you review the Butterfly Dignics 05

[@gustavosuenaga]

Great review as always! 👏👏👏

[@TA-xp4jh]

great review, i am considering switching from the xiom feel sx to the icecream, so it would be nice if you could let me know what the main differences between the feel sx and the two icecream blades are mainly in terms of speed, spin and control

[@Shrimp0kUgel]

Same here! The Xiom Feel SX is quite a thick and heavy blade. Have you made the switch, and if so, how does it compare? What rubbers do you use btw?

[@alxnreal]

Man,I see this video and I can say is so fast,good luck with the youtube and keep going!

[@ajoydas-Watch-It]

Still play the Hayabusa ZX which was my first professional blade after getting back into the sport comming from the Clipper in the 80s prior, might have to look at this one. Maybe fibre on one side and carbon on another would make a interresting mix. Thx for the review.

[@IHadToChooseThis1]

To which butterfly blades would you guys compare the forehand and backhand sides of the AZX I? An answer would be greatly appreciated. Would't want to buy the blade without knowing a little more a bout it :D

[@dfy]

IHadToChooseThis1 Have you had a chance to try the AZXi?

[@pingsunday]

alc + zlc = hybrid

[@stephenphoenix-roberts9447]

Order get mine tomorrow. Got it awesome. Very fast but controllable.

[@stephenphoenix-roberts9447]

Xi is cheaper than the kota at tee sports.

[@jackjenkins4538]

I've been waiting for this

[@davidhuang1884]

Are you going to buy one?

[@jackjenkins4538]

perhaps for next season

[@KoreanRedDragon]

Hey guys! You haven't looked at the DHS GoldArc 8 rubber yet, right? Is it one you're planning on getting to eventually? I think the softer 47 degree one might be really good for my game, so a proper video review would be fantastic before I buy. On a side note, is Xiom supposed to sound like Ziom or like Axiom? I've heard the latter, but now I'm not sure!

[@keerthyraja8301]

Hey, I am using Goldarc8, such a amazing rubber. Improved my game a lot. Request dan to do review

[@hkseller007]

Great review.

[@NTN1793]

Nice review for xiom blade , but i hope in the future you can review zx-gear (in , out and fiber) of VITAS . Thanks.

[@vuhoang-rs1vi]

Can you Compare with zhang jike zlc? Thank you

[@219cafe]

Zjk zlc is such a fine blade!

[@MauricioRSFit]

Do you recommend lacquer or sealing when gluing rubber to these blades? I am more concerned about the limba surface than the koto. Thanks!

[@tobiasschafer7132]

What reason is there not to? (I'm seriously asking, I'm relatively new to this whole blade and rubber and glueing game).

[@blueheart9873]

Does it feel much different to an all wood 5 ply blade? Obviously the carbon kicks in at high impact but does the rest play similar?

[@faaaaaaaa11]

Can you please review xiom hugo Hal

[@andiamGrizzlyyet]

Do u used O7 Euro or Pro? Will u also make a review about the O7 tour? Amazing shots with the "wrong" hand 👍🏻

[@tommaynard8101]

Hey Jonas, in the review we used O7 Pro, the Euro version would give a little more control. Thanks 👍

[@dariusxavier3631]

Good job Dan, keep it up and good luck for British league

[@anhangphan4216]

Which Omega 7 rubber did you use, Dan?

[@jonah8834]

Hey Dan, do you or Tom switch grip a little when you change from bachkand to forehand and vicevercer?

[@tommaynard8101]

I personally do make a small change, of course its ideal to make this change as minimal as possible to save time etc

[@jonah8834]

@@tommaynard8101 ok thx👍🏻

[@yuzeyy7357]

What about review of Yasaka xtend HS rubbers?? I ordered it a couple days ago, but had a chance to try it first. For me, it seemed to be better, faster, and more control than Mark V, Tibhar MXP, and even Donic Bluefire M2 (what I tried). I'd love your opinion like an expert.. Thanks..

[@joashleehehe]

recommended rubbers for XIOM ice cream azx?

[@funkindy]

Hi guys! I played a lot with Xiom and on old series (vega, omega, feel) of blades it was a dissapointing flaw with the handle insignias. There were a paint kind of rusted out in just a couple of weeks and even the premium blades obtained very poor appearence. Is this problem relevant to the icecream series? @TTR-Hunter @TableTennisDaily

[@kishenpankhania363]

Double handswitch mid rally? You guys have to get in touch with Timo and get a comment from him

[@tommaynard8101]

Yeah maybe we should give Timo a call, he's a hand switch expert! 😉

[@kishenpankhania363]

@@tommaynard8101 *was, there is a new expert now

[@tommaynard8101]

@@kishenpankhania363 haha very true 💪😁

[@naldramos4993]

Finally!

[@peachcat2812]

im using this with h3 neo provincial on the alc side

[@dfy]

Hi Dan, love your vids; they are a great help! Quick question: I am considering buying the Xiom AZX i blade. I am very new to the sport 6 months in, although excelling fast. I am consistently playing at about a rating of (900-1100 US). So I am still beginner, creeping up into intermediate level hopefully by the end of the year or 2020 sometime. Would the Xiom AZX i be too much of a jump for me? Also, any recommendations on a good Timo blade for my level as well? I currently use the Xiom Zi and prefer a blade with excellent feel/control/power. Thanks Dan!

[@lfung711]

I think you should start by some pure wood blade like stiga clipper to build up your feeling first to use inner carbon, you need to concentrate your power when hitting, in purpose to make your force get through the first layer to reach the carbon layer

[@dfy]

Lfung711 I ended up getting the xiom AZXi. I play around 1400-1500 rating now (1 year later) It’s great. Although last week I just bought an all-wood blade (butterfly Mazunov) to take a Step back for a while. Plan to train with all wood to further develop form and feel, or else I’m afraid I will peak prematurely. So you’re absolutely right.

[@lfung711]

@@dfy Just don't make any dumb mistake then you can basically win over US 1500 rating level, powerful attack is not that necessary, so playing with steady equipment seems better

[@seannery7428]

Hey can you review the xiom hayabusa zxi pls

[@leedy5996]

good Dan good Tom

[@dannysedgwick6119]

All wood blade but Koto outer ply BH Limbar outer ply FH

[@john.s1962]

Not first, my coach knows a guy here in Greece, he makes custom blades, up to 11 different materials for a food price

[@dominuscaesarius]

Send the link

[@kangnamgyu1122]

Send me the link plz

[@bobpuls]

yes i also know different manufacturers who does use different carbon layers on each side ... definitely not first

[@a.m.3118]

Malaka send link gamoto. I will go this summer to greece and visit this guy.

[@TTRHunter]

the production process of a hybrid blade is not easy. thats the reason why factorys were not able to build a stable high quality hybrid (well known? ) blade in the past. Xiom claims to be the first who were able to create a blade that doesnt warp over the time, which is the critical point

[@table_tennis_fever]

what a fun review! good job guys! I bought the AZX already but the AZXi for some reason isn't available in USA 2 months after AZX still!! what's up with that?

[@tommaynard8101]

Thanks Geoffrey, not sure why the AZXi isn't available yet in USA to be honest with you. But hopefully you'll enjoy the AZX :)

[@TableTennisDaily]

Hey Geoffrey, the AZX i went out of stock pretty quickly according to XIOM. Hopefully will be back out soon.

[@TTRHunter]

azxi will be available worldwide from mid april....because of extremly high demand there were production bottle necks :/

[@table_tennis_fever]

@@TTRHunter ah, thanks for letting me know!!! Wow extremely high demand huh? Now i've gotta get it too! i've setup notifications from tt11, and megaspin

[@dfy]

Geoffrey Cheng have you had a chance to try the AZXi yet? How does it compare to the Timo Boll ALC? Don’t know if I should go for the safe choice of the Timo Boll ALC or the Xiom AZXi. I’m a lower intermediate player..

[@gustavosuenaga]

9:16 woah!! Two hand switches?? That’s incredible!! haha

[@tommaynard8101]

Thanks man! :)

[@alexfrolov6394]

Super rallies 💪🏼💪🏼

[@tojacc1]

Hi Dan, can You compare speed of azxi and azx to vega euro You showed in that review?

[@TTRHunter]

in my opinion the azx is comparable to vega euro, especially the ZLC site. in general the icecream blade are a bit faster also because the weight of these blades are a bit higher compared to vega blade series. the ALC site of azx is definitely more springy than vega euro blade. the azxi is difficult to compare to vega euro, because the carbon is at the core and also it has limba instead of koto outer ply.

[@anshumandevchoudhury]

Recommendation for rubbers for donic personne carbotec

[@IHadToChooseThis1]

Where can I purchase them? It's ridiculously hard to get one of those although they should have been released months ago ?

[@TableTennisDaily]

I believe XIOM will be releasing a new batch soon.

[@TTRHunter]

the azx is already available and every xiom dealer is able to order it. azxi will be available from mid april world wide. the demand for icecream in asia was enormous so that there where production bottle necks in the past weeks.

[@manuheirman3613]

Please review the Tibhar Genius

[@csabaollari7650]

Can youbplease rewiew the gewo balsa carbon 775 blade with donic bluefire m2 rubber please

[@TableTennisDaily]

Hey Csaba we will look into this :)

[@csabaollari7650]

@@TableTennisDaily thank a lot

[@Mbmtravels]

Sir plz review xiom zx2 , speed spin control ,plz plz plz thank u

[@Mbmtravels]

Plz review xiom feel zx2

[@Mbmtravels]

Please review xiom feel zx3 blade

[@purujitaggarwal4582]

Do Tenergy 64 pls

[@lux-og2dn]

Would you review hurricane3 turboblue?

[@stephenphoenix-roberts9447]

Would the azxi be good with soft sponge or would it be to slow?

[@tommaynard8101]

Hi Stephen, these are both pretty fast and stiff blades so eve with softer rubbers they would be quick. We tested it with omega 7 rubbers which are fairly hard but and well suited to this style of blade. I personally think medium to hard rubbers work well with the ice cream blades but I'm sure with softer sponge you'd still get a lot of speed out of the ice cream blades.

[@stephenphoenix-roberts9447]

Currently using ransanta soft on a aruna blade I like ransanta soft but need little more speed to take the arch over the net with out losing any spin ty for reply Tom good review.

[@tommaynard8101]

@@stephenphoenix-roberts9447 Yeah it could well be a decent choice then. No problem and glad you enjoyed the review.

[@stephenphoenix-roberts9447]

Got it med on forehand and soft on back awesome weapon 😂.

[@ВладКарлащук]

Hello, what are the covers you used on xiom icecream azx?

[@tommaynard8101]

We used the Xiom Omega 7 rubbers on both sides in the review.

[@ВладКарлащук]

@@tommaynard8101 but which alite, pro, tour or asia?

[@tommaynard8101]

@@ВладКарлащук Ahh sorry l yes we used Omega 7 Pro, the Euro version would add slightly more control.

[@joemillionaire3896]

How is the azx compared to a carbonado 190

[@tommaynard8101]

Hi Ray, they are pretty similar overall to be honest. Both fast and stiff carbon blades with a firm feeling. I would say the azx is a little faster than the 190 and of course has the slight difference on each side with the alc and zlc carbon which can be good if you want a different feeling for the backhand or forehand side. Both good quality blades!

[@TTRHunter]

also carbonado has limba outer ply while azx has koto outer ply, both have the carbon layers right under the surface

[@benpalmer-jones4865]

Feel Bella?

[@AizenSxsuke]

Great

[@TableTennisDaily]

Thanks! :)

[@a.m.3118]

Is there a blade with double limba outer layers and al carbon ?

[@peptom7074]

Try tcore t560, a new korean made blade and it has good control and speed

[@a.m.3118]

@@peptom7074 i will check it. Thank you

[@IHadToChooseThis1]

innerforce layer alc?

[@a.m.3118]

@@IHadToChooseThis1 the BY Innerlayer ALC ? Yeah but ai cant stand the handle its quiet thin and small

[@kaptivatingstudios676]

DHS hurricane Bo? I think? Maybe ayous second layer, not sure but I think the HL5/FabngBo 2 are same composition

[@a7lyqq]

Sitting on tbe table will make table uneven, damage unrevertable

[@davicirino3492]

Dan im fron Brazilian I would like of have a raquet because I'm train everyday

[@Mbmtravels]

Sir plz review xiom xz2 .... plz plz

[@admin9707]

Is there any penhold version?

[@TableTennisDaily]

Hey Tommy, i'm not to sure, great question ill find out.

[@TTRHunter]

yes there is! but only sold in china...

[@raenata]

Defender blade pleaseee

[@_decent4303]

Wow

[@peachcat2812]

chiquitas have never been easier

[@lgeiger]

So... did you turn the bat around and try to figure out if there's a difference between forehand and backhand side? I have played with so-called hybrid blades before. The Nittaku Combi Wood Attack is also a hybrid blade. From my experience there is no difference between the forehand and backhand sides of a hybrid blade if the top layer is the same. I think it's just a placebo effect. It's not a "new idea". Just a little list I found online: Nittaku Kombi Wood Defence Nittaku Kombi Wood Attack TSP-Reflex-Kombi Donic Carbokev BOF Spinbreaker BOF Twinblade Nittaku Magic Solution JZanders Hinoki Speed Changer Tibhar Musiro Yinhe Schild Hallmark Combination Tibhar Samsonov Techno-Power Giant Dragon Kris Giant Dragon Kris II Giant Dragon Kris Spezial Nimatsu Combi Attack Nimatsu Combi Safe Der Materialspezialist Wizard Dr.Neubauer Combination Effect Donic Alligator Combi TSP x.Series Defensive Combi Friendship 729 - Two Speed Carbon Sword Strange King Stiga - Hypertech CR 35/45

[@TableTennisDaily]

Hi L. Gyger, Thanks for your message. XIOM claims they are the worlds first hybrid 'carbon' blades. The blades you mentioned are any of them carbon? I know what you mean when you say placebo. It could also be a difference slightly in the rubber. There are a lot of factors that can contribute to the feeling.

[@TTRHunter]

the idea is not new, that is true. But Icecream should be the first "successfull" hybrid blade...I think there is a reason why the blades listed above are not very well known. in my experience everyone who tested Icecream felt the difference of alc and zlc site, so I dont think its placebo...

[@SavranMehmet]

Dude u need to check subtitle. Somethings wrong :/

[@mattheww17]

Mehmet Savran it’s auto generated

[@jerushkadoesstuff189]

Third

[@chhayachauhan8521]

alc=safety and spin zlc=power and quick

[@cubekz87]

Alc=stiff ,speed Zlc=elastic , spin

[@geraldceasar]

what rubbers are you using to test these blades?

[@tommaynard8101]

Hi Gerald, we had the Xiom Omega 7 on both sides for the review.

[@Tek101]

I am waiting for my AZX from Dandoy...... everyone is waiting for the next shipment from Xiom :-(

[@tommaynard8101]

Hopefully it will arrive soon for you Mark! :-)

[@channel-ed8if]

？

[@tungabcd]

azxi is faster than Viscaria

[@yanjivtsegmed4436]

really

[@tungabcd]

@@yanjivtsegmed4436 I own both and use same rubbers

[@dhproductionz6930]

Why are most players lefties?

[@TableTennisDaily]

They are?

[@lawrencezekas386]

Yo

[@TableTennisDaily]

Sup Larson!

[@lawrencezekas386]

TableTennisDaily hi

[@luigz96]

*Click click click*

[@notaboxofjuice]

Did you go out to the store and buy a box of dipper cones just for this review?

Please gift me

[@_lovelyyy]

The sound of the blade sounds cheap not like butterfly high quality blades. Basically you don’t need to buy an expensive blade to improve your game just need to improve your technique and footwork. Eg: top offensive players can play with any carbon blades.

[@Mbmtravels]

Plz review Xiom feel zx3 plz plz