Why Do I Struggle With Modern Knives?

[@sofakingphat8087]

I think, for the most part, we don’t have an opportunity to get these knives in hand before we purchase them. We look at them online and then we purchase them. Not having them, or the opportunity to have them in hand is extremely frustrating sometimes when we get what we purchased in the mail. In the old days, as I remember it, we could go to a local store and actually feel the knife in hand before we purchase them. That is so different from today. I live in a state where our population is very low so The opportunity to have a Knife store local where we can actually pick one of these beauties up is just not so.

[@edged_mindset]

Very very true. I havnt seen a knife store in a loooooong time

[@NaturalSynthetic777]

Were there stores that just sell knives in the past?

[@edged_mindset]

@NaturalSynthetic777 There were! PVK for example was in Las Vegas and sold mid to high end knives. They still exist online and do have some kind of storefront but not like it used to be. There were also local mom and pop stores that would sell knives as well, but with the ability to sell online more and more they all went away

[@kdlusmc]

So true. When I moved to SoCal in the late 80s, there were some type of knife store at many malls. Then they all started vanishing. Generally, the malls they were in leases got too expensive of the mall became a ghost mall. The last knife store I frequented was Plaza Cutlery in Costa Mesa, CA, at a very high end mall, South Coast Plaza. Their lease must’ve been super expensive in addition to political correctness starting to over shadow the area. During my travels since, I see that most knife stores are now in the south. The coastal regions of the country are just too foo foo now.

[@the.shotgun.approach]

100% right. You don't know you're going to love a knife until you've handled it some.

[@TheHollowGrind]

The Roosevelt XL was created using the "Scale and keep proportions" option but it should have been shorter from the top to bottom to make it a bit more streamlined while keeping the longer length. I think it would look much nicer. A little more thought in the design would have gone a long way.

[@edged_mindset]

I 100% agree

[@stimutacss]

if quiet carry did some FOMO baiting tactics Drift would be 800+ too, because its the same size but feels better. the scaled up one works better too.

[@Boosted68firebird]

Another upload that exhibits exactly why us die hard fans appreciate your channel so much. Always relatable. After zeroing in a a platform that’s desirable enough to justify a purchase, I compile data from scrolling through countless archives until said platform is refined down to a configuration deemed “the one” or “ones”. Thankfully there’s folks out that such as yourself who’s refinement process sometimes leads such examples to become available🙏🏼

[@edged_mindset]

🙏 Thank you!

[@evox4b11t]

Collecting anything becomes more than just the product, it becomes refining your taste, and recognizing patterns in the way things come and go. curating a collection of anything is about the Journey. IMO

[@edged_mindset]

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[@ScotchNThings]

Same here. I kept buying the latest and greatest but keep just going back to the time tested knives in my collection

[@edged_mindset]

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[@eddiejester6903]

I agree with you, after collecting knives for over 20 years I've settled on Old School Striders, Hinderers and Chris Reeve Knives not only for their aesthetic beauty but also the history of these knife companies. Good job explaining this.

[@edged_mindset]

Just picked up a couple Hinderers. Forgot how awesome they are

[@Oliver-us8zl]

Same here. Have been collecting for 15 years and I still prefere the ones I started with.

[@mitchelljames1406]

So nice...SO nice... to hear someone judge Strider on it's quality and reliability and not all the Man's past "sins". How many makers (Cold Steel, Medford, Hinderer, etc.) have been judged by other than the product of their skills. Enough already!!! If the best knives makers are "Boycotted" cuz of their mistakes, fact is; a lot of industry designers have historically had questions of their past. Their products can still be Stellar!!⚡

[@edged_mindset]

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[@ballpythonnate72]

Well said dude 👊

[@zachward7620]

Every new knife i get, after a little bit. i always come back to Emerson and the cqc7

[@the.shotgun.approach]

I love these type videos on midtech/custom knives; there's not enough of them. I totally get you too. I have some knives that after some time I've realized the price I paid wasn't worth it to me. But @ table price or higher, it may be worth it to someone else. You just don't know if you'll love a knife until you've handled it for a while and it's part of the love affair we have, always seeking another knife that will blow our socks off. Each new purchase is a gamble but I always factor into the equation if it has resale value or not. Personally, I don't like the aesthetic of the Rosie and I've never owned any, although the XL did spark some interest originally when it came out. But there's just too many other knives I rather get. Love your takes man! Cheers.

[@xrmatt1010]

My opinion, Strider for example is unique, they have a unique look to them you could black out a picture of one and still tell by the shape that it’s an SMF or an SNG same with Emersons and Hinderers. A lot of “modern” knives all look the same you can’t hardly tell between a Chinese titanium framelock or an actual midtech sometimes there’s a bunch of brands out there now, basically they have no character. Also Striders, Emersons, Hinderers have a track record for being used in harsh conditions, Emerson and Strider especially, I carry a Strider on duty wether at the fire station or at my reserve unit and done training operations with them used em and its what I trust my life to. YMMV.

[@edged_mindset]

Very true

[@natehoover5266]

Thats what blows my mind about Strider. I think more military guys like Strider knives more than anything else and yet he is famous for his stolen valor and being a liar. Life is ironic. But to each his own.

[@spaghettisama]

what appeals to a lot of people is the legacy that a design holds. There are incremental improvements in quality and design that a knife like the Roosevelt holds over the SnG, but like you do in the video, the Strider holds a whole story behind it, a significant change in the industry. Oz doesn't have such a thing quite yet, maybe because he hasn't been around for as long as Strider has been. Who knows, maybe in 10 years people will speak of Oz with the same reverence as do with Chris Reeve or Rick Hinderer now.

[@Itachi810]

I agree it depends on when you got into knife collecting. If you were collecting during the overbuilt rugged trend knives now just don’t hit the same. Also overseas companies have stepped their game up big time. So like you said many of these knives appear the same w/o handling them. There’s also the trend of knife designers vs knife makers. Great time to be a knife collector but I do miss some of the knives from a few years ago.

[@deeplypresent]

What turned me onto the Rosie was learning about the innovation of the detent system. It also has the best ergos of any knife I’ve even owned. Love how it puts your hand right behind the edge and gives you ultimate control. To each their own though, I get what you’re saying. It doesn’t yet have the full brand story and cache of CRK, Hinderer, Strider, etc.

[@edged_mindset]

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[@UpstateOutdoors03]

There is no compromise for quality, the fact is most things that’s are of good quality that were mass produced and affordable are few and far between and things made nowadays that are quality cost big bucks that’s Just the way of the world now , companies have a bottom line and money to be made either way , moral of the story buy vintage if you can most important buy what makes you happy last I can say Is keep watching Carter 🤙🏽

[@paullmight42]

Watching you do these things takes the focus off of myself doing these exact same things....

[@edged_mindset]

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[@fredrodriguez109]

I've been in the knife buying hobby for 25 plus years. I sold 3/4 of my knife collection to start buying Striders, I was starting to lose interest in higher end knives but something about Strider knives pulled me back in. They're unique and part of the holy trinity, you can't go wrong buying and collecting them

[@edged_mindset]

Makes sense to me!

[@eddiejester6903]

Sounds like my knife journey too. Thanks

[@satudave]

After all the years I have watched your journey in the hobby I still really relate to you especially with these types of videos. I often wonder had very similar thoughts and experiences. Kinda like the music I grew up with….nothing modern seems to satisfy me as much. I think it’s the same with the knives. Dunno 🤷‍♂️ why just is what it is 😎🤘🤘

[@edged_mindset]

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[@brian041270]

Worth, is in the eye of the beholder...

[@jimmylarge1148]

Or the butt-hole-er.

[@joebruin05]

Seems like nostalgia is driving your decision making, which is totally valid.

[@edged_mindset]

Mostly, yeah

[@sethprice241]

It's hell getting old, but there with ya.

[@edged_mindset]

Sucks so bad

[@LAG3]

You beat me to it. But I'm more content with the collection and the hobby than I have been since I was a kid. I like what I have. I no longer buy/sell/trade constantly.

[@kandcdish]

Collecting anything is madness (as you say) whether it be knives, guns, coins, cars, etc. Everything I purchase is used until it fails me then it may or may not be replaced. While I worked my tail off my entire life for my family's well being I had to live within my means. The only thing I have ever collected is bills and I'm not talking about currency. I'm happy for those who are able to collect things and I enjoy watching their excitement as they share that enjoyment with us. Peace and prosperity to everyone throughout the upcoming new year.

[@edged_mindset]

Same to you! And it sounds like you have your priorities in order

[@kandcdish]

@@edged_mindset At the age of 71 I had better. Living off social security alone is challenging but next year I'll have my IRA's that I'll be able to tap into. Who knows, maybe a nice knife will be in my future. My advice to everyone is to stash money away (invest) and live as debt free as possible.

[@edged_mindset]

@kandcdish Very good advice

[@MedHead1]

I hear you. I feel the same way about Old Dominion Knifeworks, Skike, and Direware; can’t beat the classics!

[@edged_mindset]

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[@zade8586]

Striders have absolutely no appeal to me, but that’s the beauty of the hobby. Everyone likes what they like and that’s due to so many factors. When you got into the hobby/where you are in it, design preferences, what you actually use them for day to day, etc.. I can respect brands like Chris Reeve and Strider for their history and for going strong for many years.

[@edged_mindset]

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[@EastCoastMan603]

I did the same thing on the last lotto, had the same exact thoughts you did and didn’t win any of them, thankfully. I’ve had both the regular and XL. Sold them after a time. I carry a harpoon spanto everyday, and regret selling my last sng. I get it.

[@EastCoastMan603]

Also…sell me that DGG. Or tell the knife gods to drop a Ti DGG under my pillow.

[@edged_mindset]

😅

[@fredstephens6737]

I'm not at this level yet, but I look at these knives a lot. Prices may be similar, I see these as different type knives and I wouldn't expect the same experience from them. I put Oz in a group with Koenig, Craig Brown, and maybe Rob Johnson. With Strider it's Medford, Hinderer, and Spartan. I tend to put CRK in both groups. Sorry if I missed the point of the vid. I got lost a couple of times.🥴

[@dongkhamet1351]

The oversized thumb hole on the full flat ground blade gives me an impression of major weakness. I guess this was a design point motivated by aesthetic concerns over performance concerns. By comparison the Strider hole is half the size and goes through the flat on the saber grind. It's functional: they put flair into plenty of other areas such as blade grinds, etches, CNC patterning etc. I know you're not supposed to use a cutting tool for prying etc but it happens and blades with half the mass taken out of the flex point will snap quite easily. Ergo the Strider might actually work for prying open a treasure chest. The other one will snap and the tip might hit someone in the eye. Best get rid of it.

[@edged_mindset]

100%. what's even crazier, is the Rosie fixed blade still having an opening hole

[@dongkhamet1351]

@edged_mindset [snorts]

[@Barney_Greenway]

Sometimes things just don't seem to "click", when you're holding your newest item in hand. As an example, I fell madly in love with a plain Spartan Harsey Folder, although the design didn't really speak to me in the beginning. On the other hand, I didn't like the Sebenza 31, which I still consider the more elegant design. That's my 2 cents on the matter 😅

[@oggoblin295]

Every time I see your videos it always reminds me of how i never should have sold my SMF. Maybe someone here could steer me in the right direction to find another one🙏

[@edged_mindset]

I will keep my eyes peeled for you

[@Boosted68firebird]

They’re quite a few in many configurations available now on sites such as American Edge, EDC Lifestyle and Arizona Custom Knives.

[@ct2368]

Love the channel.

[@edged_mindset]

Thank you!

[@grimflipz]

I prefer washers , I hate when bearings get dirty and I feel the action get crunchy. Especially a bigger knife should be washers imo . The smaller Rosie is sweet not so much the large

[@edged_mindset]

Good point

[@CaptChet81]

Yeah, I definitely think the aesthetics work better on the regular rosie.

[@mikee4993]

I have a regular size Rosie and I like it, but it is not the first knife I reach for to put in my pocket. I think the blade shape has its limitations. I think the XL is too big for that kind of design if that makes sense. Have you tried the SPK Lamia yet?

[@edged_mindset]

I havnt! It's on the list

[@roofrack21]

This is why I just got a satu. I just feel like back then they were making them with purpose and now a lot of the new people make them for the $

[@edged_mindset]

Bingo

[@tubesurfer23]

The Strider looks the coolest by far imo. But I don't like the pivot that takes two tools and don't they have bad lock-up geometry? Also has no steel insert and the middle of the knife around the pivot looks thinned out and week. Maybe it's fine, all these other people chimed in to say they are tough people who carry them in tough conditions... perhaps they are comparing it a much cheaper knife they had before? IDK. I'd take the Kunwu out of all the ones you showed but not in an Axis lock! That's a whole different discussion tho! Cheers.

[@Knowledgehodl775]

The Strider and Rosie are two different knives IMHO. The Strider is a tactical knife, a work knife. The Rosie is more elegant and is a casual pocket knife. I get down and dirty with my Striders. I take my Rosies with me going out to dinner or to the office.

[@edged_mindset]

I can see that.

[@vegangunguy4579]

I buy and enjoy the newer stuff, but I will always prefer the Srtiders, Chris Reeves, and classic Benchmade and Spyderco. I’m enjoying the newer Demko stuff too.

[@edged_mindset]

👊

[@staysharp525]

How much for xl

[@edged_mindset]

they are 900-1000 retail. They go for around that or a little more on the secondary market

[@fghijkl2008]

I like Rosie XL, but paying more than 450 is insane, I rather get a combat troodon at that price

[@ToxicGreen357]

People want expensive fidget spinners that cut cardboard. Overbuilt (potentially life saving) cutting tools are a thing of the past. Everything is made on a machine, nothing is done by hand. The market has changed.

[@edged_mindset]

Big time. I am hoping it comes back around, at least in some way, but who knows

[@LAG3]

Nailed it. My collection is as small as it has ever been. I never had much interest in what I call gimmicks. Or doing stupid human tricks, even in the 80s when butterfly knives were THE one hand openers. I bought a small boot knife around 1984. Because of the redundancy in folding knives my focus is now on mid size fixed blades. I like the custom aspect of getting a knife the way I want it and supporting the maker. Kydex was a total game changer for me. I have been a fan of Crawford, Krein, Dozier, Polkowski and Bud Nealy for decades. My favorite maker currently making very affordable, hell for stout fixed blades is Greg Moffatt. I'm definitely in the hobby for the people now.

[@BigT962]

I personally don’t see the value of the Roosevelt, doesn’t trip my trigger. But to each their own. As a new subscriber, I’m enjoying your content man. Wishing you a Happy New Year, Carter!

[@zade8586]

Total over generalizations. More stuff than ever being made by hand, more overbuilt knives coming out every year than ever before. You just actually have to look.

[@edged_mindset]

@BigT962 You too! And thank you

[@5door]

I went through a similar process with the XL. I didn’t connect with the original but thought the size would change things with XL. Nope. There is a lack of robustness and authenticity that makes it hard to spend nice Strider money on. It feels like more of a commodity.

[@edged_mindset]

Bingo

[@Mastersargent3841]

Spyderco.

[@jeffcanfixit]

I'd love to try/ handle a Roosevelt, but,,,, I can't do the lotto deal. Win a chance to purchase your product. 🤔 Don't know why,,, but I just can't do it. If I actively collect a brand it's gotta have a soul, enjoy the personality of the maker or the atmosphere surrounding it or even the design language speaks to me. Yeah,, collecting gets complicated. 👍👍🔪🤣 Thanks for the vid.

[@edged_mindset]

I love the lotto system. The only other option is a drop where they sell out in 3 seconds and depending on how far you internet has to travel to get to the site servers you may never have a chance to buy one as you are always 10 seconds behind (like me and Strider drops)

[@UpstateOutdoors03]

I think we need a edged mindset coin/poker chip I need that in my life

[@edged_mindset]

😳 I like that idea

[@UpstateOutdoors03]

like I said that would be so cool to have a piece of my fav knife Chanel in my edc ,also a chance for longtime followers to get a piece of the Chanel one would say .

[@edged_mindset]

@UpstateOutdoors03 👊

[@silencedogood0U812]

Tiawain and Chinese blades are looking better since they are getting better but the knives here for most people at the price would be sculptures to look at not use and maybe that's what they'd be better at anyway. Nice example shown here but for their intended purpose very expensive Robust User but i get nastalgia and branding efforts to so yeah that alone take luck and skills capture attention.

[@charhay6969]

These have never appealed to me.. i have no desire to own one.. I sure its a good knife, but not for me..but , I absolutely love Strider knives..!!! To each their own i guess..

[@natehoover5266]

Things are being sold at table right now because the market has tanked. I cant sell anything for anywhere close to table. But im not selling super high end American made i guess. Just normal $200-$300 name brand stuff. I only got into the knife community 3 or 4 years ago. I love action and fidgeting. I also like using my knives and bang for my buck. If i could play more in the $1000 territory i would. Id love an XL Rosie. I never thought about a knife company "representing" something. I actually hate Striders. The whole stolen valor thing just rubs me the wrong way. But besides that, i had a Performance Series SnG and i thought it was terrible...one of the worst knives ive ever had. Hoback is a douche too and i liked his knives. I think it all comes down to this...to each his own. We find joy in the things we find joy in, simple as that.

[@edged_mindset]

Market is hot garbage. Good time to buy I guess, inless.it keeps going down

[@bobdamico1099]

Sold all of my Striders, have not found the OZ appealing enough to buy, for US made I prefer, Hinderer, Koenig and CRK

[@pavlepetrovic6846]

I feel sorry that you do not have Spayderko Civilian & Harpy mentioned, becose they represent the movement of maniacs who wanted to be doctors without hospitals😂😂😂

[@IDKReviews-db9xf]

I don't disagree with you at all. I think pride of ownership and brand recognition plays a much larger part than knife enthusiasts are willing to admit. I can't tell u how many times I've heard people admit they overpaid for a knife, myself included.

[@americangraffiti6192]

I just have no love for any front flipper. This recent fad of multiple openings needs to go. Please spend more time on heat treatment and tolerance. I’ll take that over four deployments anytime.

[@edged_mindset]

👊

[@plynch113]

I love my striders. The oz Rosie is not worth the money to me. I don't like the way the Rosie looks. Very vanilla imo, the blade shape has too much belly and just looks like a titanium native5.

[@DeadCelt]

Strider and CRK are the first of their kind. The original catalysts of high end (overpriced) knives. That’s why we have an attachment to them. Now knife companies are a dime a dozen. The cool factor has vanished in a way.

[@edged_mindset]

Absolutely true. Do people not have pride in owning a knife (CRK) that invented the framelock? I just don't get it.

[@jimmylarge1148]

I wouldn’t pay 250$ for that Rosie. That’s just a plain Jane regular knife. Not one special thing abt it. I’d buy another Buck 110 before I paid over 200 for that Rosie. 😂

[@vladimirmihnev9702]

No knife is worth $1k as a cutting tool. We pay for the pride and joy of ownership. So anything like that is worth what ever someone is willing to pay! It's not about logic is about how it feels to you. Yes they is the point of premium materials and hand made and made by Americans, that need to get paid much more than the old guy in some town in the Balkan mountain that sells great custom knives for like $30 (RIP bay Ivan 😢)

[@edged_mindset]

Very good point

[@LAG3]

I've been watching you for YEARS Carter. I understand what you mean. I was out of the hobby for six or seven years. I just had too much going on. I have eased my way back in by trying a few of the new breed with flippers, bearings, different locking systems and was left underwhelmed. The knives I thought I wanted were CRK. I bought two. They really didn't do anything for me. They just felt awkward and didn't have the aura they did for me back in the day. I sold them and purchased some brand new Spydercos that I never owned before. I am very impressed with the quality, action, fit and finish, and materials. I love the Compression Lock. I have a Bodacious, Military 2 and Sage 5 (both in Cobalt Blue G-10 and Spy-27). Spyderco was my first love when it comes to the modern folder. When Black G-10 and ATS-34 was the thing to have I loved those early Spyderco and Benchmade. I'm with you. I only buy something if I don't already own something very similar. Currently I am focused on custom fixed blades for EDC. I genuinely enjoyed this. 👍

[@edged_mindset]

@LAG3 glad you came back into the hobby and stuck around!

[@EnriqueScott-se3vp]

Why are you wasting our time are you spending your money😊😊😊😊😊😮😮😮😮😮

[@edged_mindset]

Huh? Can you restate the statement/question please.

[@Rough_cut613]

Personally I think it's a two fold problem. 1) all those things we used to consider premium materials are readily available in budget knives because we didn't seem to understand that knife makers were always buy ng those parts from China anyhow and now China is making the whole knife. 2) the clean line aesthetic and 3D patteringing that has caught on in knife making thanks to CNC machining is kind of boring and again also readily available at the same quality from China.

[@superduperdipper]

Strider Rules! End quote! DGG for life! 🩶