XL Bully attack: 'The breed is NOT the problem!' | Dog Behaviourist SLAMS proposed ban

[@andybrown4284]

This isn't just about the genetic aggression of the animal but rather the way that it acts when it does attack, this is a breed that will bite and hold on with very powerful jaws where other breeds will bite and retreat. A jack russel bites a child it will do far less physical damage and harm, not just because its a small dog but because it will let go rather than clamp down and wrestle its prey.

[@anna4lease587]

Exactly they dont let go

[@Willxors]

Are you this uneducated? Most terriers we’re actually bred for hunting, and Killing, ragging and not releasing til their prey was dead. American bulldogs were bred in the mid 1990s to be a family companion, their genetics are way better than most other dogs, so the only reason for them to be acting this way, is people unethically breeding them to cause neurological problems. OR people being stupid raising their dog incorrectly making it this way. Both reasons are due to HUMANS not the dog. Banning this breed will do nothing but cause the educated, bad owners to move on to the next breed. Til you hold the actual people responsible for their actions. But I guess you’ll be crying in the next 10 years that canes, gsd, Malis, dobers, kangals, Akitas, husky, even labs will be killing children at the same rate. Open your eyes. They did this in the past, blamed the dobers. Blamed the rotties. Now it’s the bullys turn, you seriously think this does anything? Like seriously? They’re putting a child’s plaster on a hatchet wound.

[@PastyOReily]

Trouble is people use them as trophy dogs to look tough.

[@1gerard47]

Normally Ned's, thick as shit or drug dealers.

[@dazza9326]

I have a Border Terrier who loves people but doesn't like other dogs. I'm responsible so I keep him away from other dogs, it's about being responsible.

[@henrysaunders6683]

Yeah so attracts the worst type of owner

[@zgaryhall]

100%

[@richardcrook2112]

The people who own them are social inadequates, stupid people, sociopaths or the criminally minded. And that women being interviewed is a moron.

[@stephennelson9212]

They literally called it the extra large bully then act shocked when it fucks people up

[@T5Zplayer]

Not anymore luckily

[@jinxarchives]

Bully is short for Bulldog don’t twist it

[@apes4days254]

​@kanetolley Why not call it an XL bulldog then? Bully breeds imply it's a specific breed of dog, not just a 'bulldog'.

[@Calm_wisdom]

If I had to pick between protecting a child or a "misunderstood breed" I'd pick the child.

[@paddymeboy]

Yeah, doggy people always say this as another child gets munched. The same arguments apply as in gun control. It may be true that the dogs are not the problem in themselves, just like guns don't shoot people by themselves. But you can't shoot someone without a gun, and you can't maul a kid to death without an aggressive dog.

[@Shxzic]

but there's no choice here, the breed is well understood, what stops the same people owning mastifs or malinois if the xl bully is banned?

[@matthewhiggs4805]

The point is it's not the dog it's the people who own the dog.. any dog can become dangerous. It's the way Bullys look that makes them attractive no dodgy people who shouldn't have a dog. The sooner you and everyone else understands that the sooner you can stop saying silly things

[@nolovedrjones9668]

@@matthewhiggs4805 The point is it's not the gun it's the people who own the gun.. any gun can become dangerous. It's the way Rifles look that makes them attractive no dodgy people who shouldn't have a gun. The sooner you and everyone else understands that the sooner you can stop saying silly things See how ridiculous your argument is now?

[@georgemorley1029]

@@matthewhiggs4805 When was the last time a Pomeranian killed a toddler?

[@jackthelad5366]

This may have already been said but these dogs are acquired by a certain kind of person to purposely intimidate and be used as a weapon

[@bandit6272]

Yup, it's very often a self selected population that seek out certain breeds. Those types of people actually like their dogs to be aggressive and intimidating.

[@Nebulous0_o]

Chavs

[@everyman1]

But there have been cases where these dogs have killed kids and they were well looked after.

[@Dragophonix]

​@@everyman1Can you name any of those cases?

[@kayleighrothwell8189]

​@@everyman1and what is well looked after in your eyes?? Lots of cuddles and kisses?? That's not well looked after weak mined people also produce aggressive dogs, you need to give dogs rules, boundaries, limitations exercise then after all that love, not just love love love

[@sbr1160]

Im an ex criminal, never owned any of these types of dogs as a fashion statement, statement of protection or threat to anyone!! However i do know loads of people that did, i understand what a dogs purpose is and that any dog i own i want to be part of the family NOT part of my army. Ban Dangerous PEOPLE from owning dogs like these "DANGEROUS" dogs

[@bradleywilliams1525]

Agree 1000% most of the xl owners Ive seen leave the dog at home all day long when it's gets curious or wants to just play they get told shut the f**k up, I've seen people kick the crap out of them in she street for just being a curious dog it's b.s!! I've course they will end up turning one day because they have been taught to take physical action if they don't like something. I've got a pup that looks ever so slightly like an XL but not the same size at all and she's brilliant because I don't want a breeding machine I wanted a loving pet that's part of the family! She listens on first command because she's not shouted at or beaten, FGS you can learn to train a dog pretty well just from KZbin. Start prosecution of owners.

[@Trav-eller]

You can traumatise a Chihuahua to be aggressive (Many of them are) but its is not capable of scaring everyone it passes nor is it capable of extreme damage the XL Bully is. People dont own these dogs because they are cute and sweet. They own them to appear menacing.

[@supocarta74]

Yep it's the tools the dog has that should be policed ..who needs a monster dog unless your a security company,police,army etc...

[@georgemorley1029]

A traumatised chihuahua couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding let alone a child's face. An XL bully can and they do, more often than other breeds. And you can't ban people, so if you don't ban the dogs, kids will continue to die.

[@anna4lease587]

Exactly

[@mikehunt4265]

Let an aggressive chihuahua near your face and then tell me it's not capable of extreme damage

[@eddnub]

The difference is the xl bully can drag an adult down and around, whereas chihuahua cant.

[@luciaguarino3465]

Nit true the XL next door to me is a placid well behaved and well trained dog, but still out of the blue lunged for my face one day for no reason at all and I’ve played with and petted this dog many many times.

[@HexDex-y6b]

Until that one day when..... 💀💀💀

[@stumpytkd1774]

I'm guessing your a ginger scouser well deserved

[@craigboden9455]

yeah mine does that to me too, then i get licked to death and end up full of dribble because it does it to give kisses not bites.

[@smith549371]

@@craigboden9455I hope if it attacks one day, you’ll be the victim it maims and not somebody innocent

[@craigboden9455]

@@smith549371 you do do you? youre the kind of person who everyones on about.

[@myrants5836]

So the Dogo Argentino dog is a banned breed in the UK. Yet the Bully XL is basically the same dog with a different name. Yet it isnt banned. Absolutely ridiculous!

[@cuprashoe]

To be fair a dogo Argentino is arguably less aggressive

[@deeray4637]

They aren't even remotely similar 😂 what are you talking about? The dogo is an argentine mastiff, the xl bully was made through years of breeding the pitbull with bulldogs and mastiffs.

[@myrants5836]

@@deeray4637 So the same bloody dog then!! Dogo is also mixed with Pit Bull, Mastiff and Bulldog!!

[@deeray4637]

@@myrants5836 the dogo genetically is predominantly made from the mixing of mastiff, bull terrier, and boxers. The great dane and English pointer also genetically can be found in the dogo, so no, not the same dog, at all.

[@fessali5726]

What’s worse is the people who keep the dogs may have no knowledge on how to look after a dog and yet we are seeing a massive rise of dogs being walked by children that could do nothing if it attacked someone. Should be a licence involved and the owner should have to be responsible legally if dogs attack and should be treated as a person with a lethal weapon.

[@rockyrowlands3652]

I’m fed up hearing these argument ..for or against. In the meantime more children will fall victim to these and other such dogs.

[@HALFTONE44]

​@@UberFoXyeah ban the feck put of those feckers.. fecking scotties

[@aarondavies8486]

I have a bully its been attacked by black lab twice the owners didn't care until I kicked their dog my bully lives with a cat the cat rules the house

[@Disinfo321]

@@UberFoXno because they’re controllable, adult xl bully’s absolutely are not. That’s like saying we shouldn’t ban chimpanzees or lions as pets because jack russels can attack too.

[@chunkylover48]

@@UberFoX Thing is they don't though do they...

[@chunkylover48]

@@UberFoX Well yes of course there are. But its not about those small number of cases is it... it's about the huge numbers of cases for such a small amount XL's. (They make up less than 1% of dogs in the UK). Britons are 270 times more likely to be killed by American Bully dogs than any other breed. To put it into context, consider the xl bully body count of 6 last year alone compared to the staffy body count of 6 over the previous 10 years! That’s 10x more deaths by xl bully compared to staffs despite there being significantly less xl bully’s. In the US they are responisble for 8x more attacks and deaths than every other breed COMBINED! Seriously, what is the problem with just getting another breed?

[@alistairangus7216]

Yes everyone of them would say - “ my dog would never hurt anybody” until it does!

[@stephenparkes9543]

And they all swear blind that they always pick up their dog mess.

[@hcfybguctugdhu5223]

If any dog can be dangerous, then why are thugs and drug dealers specifically seeking out this "misunderstood" breed? It's obvious why we're having this conversation, some dog breeds are inherently more dangerous than others. The Bully XL breed has only been in the UK since around 2018, and dogs are more likely to become aggressive as they age. There's already a storm happening.

[@terike9738]

At the end of the day, IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THEY ARE ALL AGGRESSIVE OR NOT. THEY ARE HUGE, POWERFUL, AND ABLE TO KILL.

[@stumpytkd1774]

So are many dogs and many have a bully is a mongrel mixed with several breeds mostly 95% British breeds. Are you proposing banning all large breeds ie cane corso rottweiler great dane kangal doberman English mastiff swiss mountain dog Ridge back English bullterrier staggy boxer St Bernard all have killed before and the xl bully is made up from several large breeds it's the chav breeders fault and they should be held to account not the dogs

[@shax232]

@@justanotherpersonontheweb.8709so what do you propose? Banning humans?

[@jgw9990]

​@@stumpytkd1774They're mongrel in attempts to get round breed bans

[@guysilverback7755]

The Xl Bully is a mixed breed, inwhich they have pit bull and American bulldog put in. The temperament of the American bulldog is supposed to calm the pit bull nature down. But there are 2 problems. 1 the over mixing of breeds and therefore temperaments of dogs that wouldn't normally be, and 2 the irresponsible people who take on dogs and don't either research the breed they are looking at, and don't train or put the effort in with the animal. For example a British bulldog is quite lazy and doesn't need that much exercise, or a border collie / German shepard type dogs that are working dogs and need copious amounts of exercise or they become frustrated and agitated. What happens with a human that is frustrated? They can snap at people, but you can reason (sometimes) with human not so much with a dog. Stricter rules on breeding and owning a dog would go a long way to rectifying it.

[@jgw9990]

@guysilverback7755 I'm sure there's some crocodile in there too.

[@georgemorley1029]

"Ooh, it's the owners, any dog can be dangerous!" Yeah? When was the last time a toddler was mauled to death by a Pomeranian? What bollocks.

[@asammushtaq956]

Actually looking at the stats smaller dogs have attacked more often than a larger breed

[@xcf5587]

Well any dog can. It’s just pomeranians do a lot less damage. Some breeds do have more tendency to aggression, but tbh I truly don’t think bully’s are particularly naturally aggressive dogs. If you consider how powerful they are and how many of them are owned by irresponsible people it’s a surprise there’s less attacks. The argument of course to ban them is they can cause more damage, but your not even making that.

[@jgw9990]

@asammushtaq956 Irrelevant, not what he said. Nice try though. He said DEATH. Not attack. DEATH. Guess what tbe statistics say about DEATH by dog? Go on, take a look.

[@TheHowellFamilyy]

@@asammushtaq956but they don’t do as much damage. That’s important

[@Buddhavibez]

All dogs have the potential to be dangerous.

[@GoogleAccount-so4ge]

lady if one dog of every breed go berserk - what dog are you selecting to attack you ?

[@emcg.9655]

No. BAN them. Absolutely sick of people apologising for the actions of dangerous dogs.

[@PatrickDoherty-m7k]

The dog isnt the problem, its who typically goes for them as owners. Ive known great bullies but thats because they had normal well adjusted owners. The majority of people who get bullies are unemployed "roadmen", weed smoking crackhead types who get the dog for its intimidating appearance.

[@alexc7857]

​@@PatrickDoherty-m7ksame with guns

[@T5Zplayer]

@@PatrickDoherty-m7k Another victim this morning, maybe its the victim'c fault.

[@TRPGpilot]

A dog is only as good as the owner, its a pity you dont know better . . .

[@xeganxerxes4319]

The probably should be banned to stop this, but the real problem is the owner. Way too many owners are abusive and these dogs are dogs that can fight back.

[@T5Zplayer]

Naive individuals like this will see kids attacked and no change. The dogs are bred to be like this. What the hell is wrong with her.

[@roberttopham8911]

Your wrong . I've owned big soft LSG dogs and more aggression ive seen was from little dogs . It's the owner not the dog ! Socialisation for the dog is needed not training to protect and be aggressive.

[@T5Zplayer]

@@BrianBadondebowl Yet.

[@T5Zplayer]

@@roberttopham8911 Which flies in the face of the facts, look at one of the last kiddy attacks, the dog was known to the family. These dogs have a trigger in the genes that make them flip. Making excuses.

[@misty4483]

@@BrianBadondebowlwhen they do its a horrible mauling, or they kill.

[@MandyAustin-nl4cn]

​@BrianBadondebowl they attack other dogs and smaller animals. Why are you people so silly and irresponsible.

[@0019808]

What’s happening to this country? In the 1970’s, my mum ran an RSPCA home. Part of her job was to humanely euthanise animals at the request of the police. So I happen to know for a fact that if a dog attacked a human (adult or child) they were euthanised because it was often my mother who had to do it. They were no ifs or buts, no deep analysis of the dog’s psyche, no hand-wringing. If it had attacked a human, it was dangerous and destroyed!

[@gerrycollins2335]

These dogs were bred to be aggressive and destructive. Just as you expect a retriever to love chasing and bringing back balls, and you expect a cocker spaniel to chase through the undergrowth, and you expect a terrier to be independent and to disappear down burrows, you should expect a dog bred for fighting to want to fight and to be easily provoked to do so.

[@balhaarsinghbhamra756]

They weren’t bred for fighting though. Check your history and the dogs which make up xl bullies. Everyone saying it’s a pitty is stupid, yes they have some pitty in them but they’ve been bred to be companion dogs.

[@alexcooper3651]

No I’m sorry, this is a load of tripe. Regardless of the fact that these dogs ARE genetically predisposed towards aggression, the argument of “it’s not the dog, it’s the owner” is such a moot point. That’s the case with all dogs, if a cocker spaniel - or even a German Shepard were to snap and attack someone, it’s a much lower risk than one of these huge animals.

[@Gofindyourselves]

The reason why German shepherds or cocker spaniels are less likely to bite someone is because they don’t attract chavy owners or wanna be gangsters. So it is entirely the owners faults, pitbulls placed 4th as the most gentle of dog breeds by the American temperament test society, so how can a dog with a great temperament equal to a golden retriever be attacking people? It don’t make sense, it’s obviously the types of people buying and raising these dogs.

[@mattpoynton3285]

What do you get if you cross an American pit bull, am American bulldog, an English bulldog and an American Staffordshire terrier? An XL bully! For most dogs I’d put the onus on the breeder,or the owner. But this combination breed is bred for size and aggression, it’s naive to pretend otherwise. Im good with dogs, and have petted an XL. but they make me very nervous indeed. First breed to do that. We’re just going to get more tragedy I fear with these dogs.

[@JelMain]

Go read the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991. Either someone's disregarded its provisions or they've lied importing them. Either way, your statement shows this repetition of the shenanigans we had back then indicates people need to be jailed.

[@jgw9990]

The dog breed responsible for 2/3s of dog deaths is indeed a problem.

[@sammichwench2475]

And theyre always the type in the shelters with "difficult" behaviour

[@jaysee2213]

No it's really not, can't you see that it's the people that own them, ban the XL bully and the chavs will go back to rottweilers, bad them and its alsatians, ban them and the chavs get spaniels. Think about it, the breed isn't the issue it's the way the owners bring them up. It's like saying that because most people in prison in America are black then it's the blacks that are the problem, no, it's society that has made it that way, just like society steers these dogs towards aggression

[@inquaanate2393]

Good owners never buy these types of dogs, it is a bit more complicated

[@WhatDemocracy]

If the labour is the dog that bites more people than any other dog in the UK why isn't that in the conversation....

[@Rampagedd]

Id say anyone I've met have this dog, is on the doll, and tortures the dog to be a bad dog 'to protect them' Poor dogs not got a chance imo.

[@premierexterior8720]

"I can't see any reason why a responsible person would want to own a dog that is bred for violence," he said. "Nobody needs a vicious, dangerous animal." Mr Baker, the NHS consultant surgeon who has dealt with the aftermath of dog attacks.

[@HTOP1982]

No dogs over 5kg for anyone. Period

[@Englandforever555]

I believe if a child gets bitten by a small tiny dog it will probably survive, an xl pitty, probably not.

[@TheOfficialJayWhy]

Same with the German Shepard, Cane Corso, Rottweiler, Golden Retriever, Colly, Doberman, Whippet, Lurcher, Greyhound, Boxer, Staffie............ All of these dogs can be trained to be aggressive and reactive if you wanted to. XL Bullys are used by stupid and irresponsible people as aggressive dogs because they look big and are strong but its always about the people who own these dogs. I have one myself that is crossed with an English Bulldog and shes the cuddliest, softest dog you could meet. She only ever barks at the door being knocked and she gets along with every dog she meets. Ive never had to worry about her with other dogs but i keep her on her lead in fear of how other dogs and owners will react

[@Englandforever555]

@@TheOfficialJayWhy but you can never guarantee your dog is never going to attack someone or something, can you. All dogs should be muzzled and on a lead. No exception.

[@Louisthesaxman1]

My mate had an XL bully puppy. Came to work with us in the van for a few days. Seriously well behaved and as cute as you can imagine. A couple of weeks later he came home from work and it had killed his older staff whilst still a puppy. Not saying it's the breed just telling a story.

[@kayleighrothwell8189]

Again that's your mates fault if he was the leader in the house then there would be no need for the dogs to fight

[@sarahj2551]

​@@kayleighrothwell8189Are you a canine behaviourist?

[@Louisthesaxman1]

@@kayleighrothwell8189 oh yea I'm sure that would have stopped it 100% of the time you must be right

[@kayleighrothwell8189]

@@sarahj2551 I am veterinary nurse with extensive Canine behavior knowledge and experience, but what is your point?

[@kayleighrothwell8189]

@@Louisthesaxman1 I have 3 classified dangerous dogs of the so called top 10 most dangerous dogs, and not once have they fought each other, they can eat high value food in each others company not once had a fight in the 9 yearsthey have blessed my life, so yes being a leader stops fighting 100% of the god damned time, because guess what they are not on top so no need to fight, same with wild wolf packs mum and dad are the leaders so no need for the rest to fight 🤷‍♀️ simple behaviour rules

[@Drankovich]

I'm sick of these people who make excuses for these animals with killer potential & high prey drives, purely on the basis of the human element, you could say the same about a bear or a big cat in that case! They're not entirely wrong but if people can't be trusted to harness this power, nobody should own one.

[@tomhunter3075]

Exactly this! I am so tired of morons being given a platform to express their short sighted views on this subject.

[@tomhollins5303]

Ban cars whlie you are at it. People cant be trusted to own them.

[@hazzy671]

Cars don't have a mind of their own and lash out on someone@@tomhollins5303

[@smith549371]

@@tomhollins5303moron

[@balhaarsinghbhamra756]

@@tomhollins5303yeah exactly ban everything and everyone. So stupid.

[@brianmonahan7990]

I love these dogs but they can be so unpredictable and they have extreme power and bred to be aggressive to other dogs etc.. Unfortunately the majority of people that have these dogs are not suitable to own such a lethal weapon and should therefore they should be banned in the uk because of the damage they can cause . A Jack Russell etc is not going to do the damage that the XL bully can and therefore not an argument!

[@G4RY1159]

My Pet Tiger is just misunderstood, but I always have him ON HIS LEAD!

[@kayleighrothwell8189]

Absolutely not the same thing and you know it, the dogs are not the problem it's the people

[@G4RY1159]

@@kayleighrothwell8189BOTH are the feckin Problem

[@Andygb78]

You can't throw the tiger out with the bathwater.

[@JelMain]

@@kayleighrothwell8189 Like Americans and guns, it's one and/or the other. Make the gun or dog unavailable and the petty tyrant trying to use it can go whistle.

[@natjackson4880]

What will the lead do when the tiger wants to go where it wants to go? Are you going to physically restrain a tiger? 😅

[@tamton7873]

My mom had to suffer with broken spine because of the vicious dog for the rest of her life.😢

[@an6el407]

I actually had one of these and their prey drive was crazy even as a puppy pinning down a full grown staffy. It had a nasty side and would switch even at 8 weeks old so I do believe it’s genetics.

[@an6el407]

My other 2 dogs kept getting bitten by the puppy too, it lunged and bit my neck and hand. My dogs have also been attacked by 2 other xl bully’s and managed to run off with one bitten leg..decided I had to rehome the xl bully in the end incase it mauled my child or someone else in the family.

[@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadio]

@@an6el407 How old was it when you got rid of it? Did you ever see the dog in it's litter? How old was it when you got it? Was it from a back yard breeder?

[@an6el407]

@@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadio the dog would’ve been turning 4 months as I rehomed her, I did see the dog in the litter and both parents, I got her at 8 weeks old, she was from a big xl bully breeder

[@SunnyvaleTrailerParkSupervisor]

How many poodles or chihuahuas are attacking people? How many fatalities have they caused?

[@nowgrownup]

What medication are you on change it cause its not working ..Totally ridiculous comment

[@TheShahkulu]

​@@nowgrownup how is it a ridiculous comment? Pitnutters ALWAYS bring up chihuahuas' aggression as a way to deflect from the the argument against bully breeds. What they don't realise is that chihuahuas cannot seriously disfigure or kill someone. That's the difference between being bitten by a chihuahua and being bitten by these disgusting beasts. It's ludicrous that this needs to be explained again and again.

[@Ice-tc5vn]

​@fraterperpetuuscoegi7668 You're agreeing with a guy whose part of an anti dog cult that's run by a convicted $ex offender.

[@ahsbbsjsj2291]

@@TheShahkulualso them “ there no bad dog”

[@garystorey]

Firstly, nobody thinks their dog would maul a child until it does. Secondly, I'd rather get bitten by a Jack Russell than a breed with jaws powerful enough to break my arm and tear my face off.

[@Katmamma]

Children die from these breeds though there a big difference between this dog and jack Russell. These dogs if not banned should be licenced with a fee high enough to ensure responsible ownership after they can prove they are capable and have the secure space to keep them. Essentially these dogs are so strong and powerful they are a weapon. They can kill.

[@lynettepeacock4672]

They are naturally aggressive. My dog was attacked from nowhere. Owner had dog off lead my 40yr old son was punching it with all his might. (he is strong) the dog owner had no control. my son screamed at him to do something the owner put finger in its bottom the dog let go then instantly grabbed my dogs throat! He said dog was off lead as it was not usually aggressive. If I had been There my dog would now be dead ! Image this being a child? Horrendous.

[@souran1321]

"Are these dogs genetically dangerous?" "I don't think that they are. I think that can you breed the dog to be aggressive? Of course you can" Bruh she contradicted herself on her first answer.

[@PatrickDoherty-m7k]

Any dog can be raised to be aggressive, her wording of "bred" was poor wording, bullies are great dogs when raised by normal people, the problem is most people with bullies arent normal ppl, they are chavs/roadmen druggies n weed dealers who get the dog because it looks scary.

[@fredmercury1314]

@@PatrickDoherty-m7kThey are a dangerous breed, no matter how you raise them. They have a significantly higher capacity for becoming very dangerous. That's a fact.

[@PatrickDoherty-m7k]

Adding "thats a fact" doesnt make something a fact, what you said isnt a fact. They are only dangerous is raised by idiots or if someone behaves in a threatening manner toward the owner or the dog if raised properly, I know this because Ive seen both sides to this dog, ones raised by idiot roadmen and ones raised in loving homes by experienced dog owners. Now thats actually a fact.@@fredmercury1314

[@fredmercury1314]

@@PatrickDoherty-m7k No, what I said is a fact. It doesn't matter to me if you can't recognise facts when you see them. There have been more than one incident of dogs raised "properly" who have turned on someone, including their owner. That's a fact.

[@PatrickDoherty-m7k]

It isnt a fact because like I said, when raised correctly the only people they pose a danger to is intruders and people trying to attack the owner/family. So your inability to acknowledge what a fact is and what a ill informed opinion(Your take) is doesnt change what I said. Your opinion (ill informed) isnt a fact. The facts I stated are facts.@@fredmercury1314

[@mike_million]

Why do they not ban humans the same way they ban dogs. There are certain human groups who cause the highest crime rates despite being a minority where ever they go. So does the government not ban these groups from their countries?….

[@richardxraj]

They always care more about how Dog Feels rather than Victims who most never owned Dogs but punished for utter nonsense of dog owner.

[@jackharvey9808]

I want the owner of that bully that mauled the 11 year old girl to be charged with assault. I still don’t think the breed should be banned. They will only move on to another breed who currently has 0 fatalities but will suddenly start killing people because it’s being bought and raised by people who shouldn’t owned dogs.

[@richardxraj]

@@jackharvey9808 agree wholeheartedly

[@jackharvey9808]

@@richardxraj i think I read that Sunak will be banning them at the end of the year, my personal bet is that it’s going to be either the Caucasian shepherd, bull mastiff, cane corso or the staffie next on the chopping block.

[@mrlift9322]

Jack Russell's and their small counter parts are aggressive not any bull breed i have ever had contact with was aggressive or showed aggression.

[@andymcdonald8922]

The owners are definitely the problem, but that doesnt solve the problem of massive dogs inflicting serious injuries and sometimes death on innocent people (often children) If you own a dog this big you need to be able to control it, and should have a licence or certification stating that you can do so. This should be mandatory or the dog is confiscated until this is achieved.

[@danderson8463]

"Dogs most likely to bite" is always the most ludicrous defence. Last i heard there wasn't a number of horrifying Jack Russell attacks. No wonder this "expert" needed a cheat sheet to her left.

[@cuprashoe]

Absolutely correct, yeah little dogs may bite but they won't disembowel a toddler

[@michaelchaosz9586]

Small dogs are often the worst trained and bite a lot more than larger dogs. A larger dog bite, will tend to cause more damage and so is often more reported. What the expert says is correct. The issue is the owners of these breeds not being suitable owners for such a dog. Ban one breed and they move to another dog to own instead IE. From rottweilers to pitbulls to XL bullies. I want people protected like everyone else, that protection needs to be aimed at dog control with the owner and it's environment etc otherwise the bites will only increase. Like she said, jack russells are notorious for biting yet nothing is discussed. The problem is wider than XL breed

[@asammushtaq956]

The expert is correct Most smaller dogs are more aggressive than larger dogs The difference is the amount of force in the dog bites Bigger dogs can do more damage if not trained properly more so than a smaller dog Hence why smaller dogs get away with attacking people as less damage is done

[@naomi5893]

​​@@cuprashoeLots of young children have died due to being left with a small dog. It's not as rare as you think. No child should be left with a dog, no matter what the size. The bigger the dog the worse the bite but to say we need to ban a breed just because a few have attacked people is stupid.

[@naomi5893]

@Autisticwanderer AB XL have caused 14 deaths since 2021. Drunk drivers have caused 260 deaths only in 2021. No one is going to ban alcohol or driving. Driven responsiby cars are a great way to travel. Bred and trained responsibly, these dogs can be loving companions just like any other dog.

[@Sam-mf8pj]

It's always the idiots that have these kinds of dogs, though. The question is why do you want a dog built for fighting and shaped like a tank?

[@joeyfive5245]

If you've never been around an XL bully you wont understand, they posses a different kind of strength then regular breeds, if they aren't properly trained and always muzzled in public they are a dangerous weapon. The government should require the owner be licenced to handle and train a dangerous breed like this in the same way guns are in the UK.

[@Danny-el7ok]

If they bite owners should be jailed for attempting to murder charge years in jail

[@stumpytkd1774]

Don't be a prick

[@alexhough3451]

Honestly maybe a better solution overall is having a license to own one. This is mainly to make sure the owners of these dogs won't be people using them for intimidation and unwarranted attack. That being said, more bureaucracy sometimes makes things worse.

[@Pumpkinhead77]

People should be prosecuted when their dogs kill other people's pets as well.

[@AnnieH-1]

I was admiring a Yorkshire terrier the lady and her daughter burst into tears. Their other one had been killed in their garden by the neighbours mastiff 🥵

[@kevind7150]

Hannah Molley, makes a statement claiming it's not the dogs fault, it's people who are to blame. Dogs are is animals and there are numerous canine animals that do not make suitable household pets. Who decides what kind of person can own a certain type of dog breed? This type of bill would never even become a subject in a parliamentary debate. She has no answers to the problem, what's the point. Do we wait until another child is killed on the streets or in the home, before we ponder even more. These types of dogs are trophy weapons. Owners walk the streets with them to ward off others.

[@Jinxs-Journey]

Some of the best owners have also seen these dogs attack for no reason at all.

[@mrmyorky5634]

'The breed is not the problem' claims yet another self professed expert. These are big, powerful, naturally aggressive and naturally dominant dogs. I'd love to hear how this idiot would stop an attack like the one shown once it's animal instincts were well aroused?

[@Jizzlejazzle0]

I live in Liverpool and they’re everywhere I can’t even let my little shih tzu off the lead anymore unless we go to the beach. Not sure why but the majority of people who own them by me are the polish.

[@cheetoduster]

or chavs trying to look hard 😂

[@Englandforever555]

I'm in liverpool and the smack rats have them. One rat let it of the lead to attack my cat on my property, my boyfriend got me a g uu n. If it comes back, it's ded.

[@Disinfo321]

@@Englandforever555you’re really admitting you own a gun on a GB News comment section and giving your location?

[@Disinfo321]

@@Englandforever555and grassing your boyfriend up too.

[@random_an0n]

i find women own them,women covered in tattoos,they see them as the same role a strong man should fill but on a leash,deffo a kink@@cheetoduster

[@sooticablue1664]

Sorry but I don’t actually care if it’s the owners fault, look at those dogs, the build , the jaw…. What chance have you got with a dog that’s built like that. No way should there dogs be kept as pets. Why are you wanting that breed of dog in the first place, why you cutting dogs ears off, docking their tails etc. as a matter of fact, aggressive dogs aside, why are animal lovers buying breeds that can hardly even breath like the pug etc. don’t call yourself an animal lover if you’ve gone out and bought a dog who can hardly breathe just because you like the look. People need to have a long hard look at themselves when it comes to buying dogs.

[@Shxzic]

you're saying that like the vast majority of dog owners are walking around with dogs that have clipped ears, docked tails or are brachycephalic, which of course is not the case. The vast majority of dog owners find this appalling

[@sooticablue1664]

@@Shxzic where am I saying the vast majority of dog owners? I’m not saying that. At all. I’m saying the type of person who is drawn to owning that breed of dog I’m likely to be an awful person who is attracted to that breed for all the wrong reasons. I’m also saying that anyone who chooses to support a breed of dog who can’t breathe properly or who has a dig who’s ears are removed, tail is docked, buts from shifty breeders on gumtree, picks a dog who has numerous health problems or has to be artificially bred because it’s unable to mate naturally has a cheek to call themselves a dog lover. I’m not saying they’re the majority at all but I see plenty of those types of dog on a daily basis so I know there are plenty of selfish morons out there buying dogs who are suffering just because they’re ‘cute’

[@SootyHunt]

She’s talking wet as the XL bully wasn’t bred 30 yrs ago…. It was bred in the US to suit the hiphop culture…. FaCT !!! They are number 5 on the list and only been around in the UK for the last few years speaks volumes…. Especially when you take into consideration the amount of staffs, Jack Russell’s to XL Bully’s….. she mentions no one’s saying anything regarding jack Russel bites…. It’s not like they can kill a fully grown man and it takes 8-10 men to fight it off !!!! Terrible guest if you ask me… very one sided and false info !

[@Cepheidvariable]

Erm. That's a war machine, not a pet. Let's not be stupid. Get rid of the bloody thing.

[@yasminbarkho3623]

I totally agree with you lady ITS NOT THE DOGS WE ARE THE MONSTERS AND THEY TURN THE POOR DOG IS A VICTIM😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@timduck8506]

Blame the owner of the dog's not the breed. Yes XL has the potential to cause a greater harm but look at the figures, on avg there are 182.5 people bitten by dog's that go to hospital a year and of that 182.5 attacks XL Bully's only on Avg account for 10 which is 5% of all dog attacks in a year.

[@TuorTheBlessedOfUlmo]

She literally says within first ten seconds "can a breed be bred to be aggressive, of course you can" end of story love. It's the breed. Even in countries where they aren't a popular breed or even legal hey still regularly make up the breed responsible for the most bites

[@HuxleyWasRight]

Jail and or heavy fines for the owner, pretty simple really.

[@bluesky8872]

That doesn’t help the person who has been maimed or killed though.

[@Dafurias]

Maybe we should get rid of all dog breeds that thugs and drug dealers would desire?

[@pretorianguard]

It’s amazing to me that people seem to argue that all breeds are equal in that they are all reliant on nurture rather than nature conveniently ignore what breeding animals is focused on doing ! Which is to purposely breed specifically for desired traits governed by fostering corresponding genetics to achieve said desired traits( hence breeding specific breeds ) it’s funny how it’s seemingly only British animal behaviour so called experts are the only ones not in step with other animal behaviour experts around the world. The expectation that animals/ dogs are to be able to reason as human beings do is a tall order. Btw I love dogs but I am not disillusioned with expectations that they will be anything but their nature.

[@rickyraw5457]

Just look on KZbin at the kind of people who own these XL bully dogs..... Make your own mind up....

[@craigboden9455]

i own one. and its soft as a brush. kill these off and all that will happen is the kind of people who train them to be aggressive will just choose a different breed. and then they will get put down and the cycle continues. use that brain you were born with instead of allowing emotion to rule the way you think.

[@ginnypurdey1]

I totally agree with this woman. The problem is the BACK STREET BREEDERS and they are quite happy to sell to IRRESPONSIBLE and INEXPERIENCED owners. There are GOOD breeders out there that breed through genealogy and bringing up their puppies WELL and SOCIALISED. Who suffers from the former type breeder and owner ..... THE PUBLIC AND THE DOG.

[@tomc6003]

Where I don't agree with the behaviourist on this is that in the scenario where a dog is mistreated or not correctly trained and the dog becomes aggressive then you don't want massive, strong dogs with huge jaws and powerful bites being involved. As much as the owner is at fault, just like it's a person that fires the gun, the dog involved affects the outcome. We don't allow machine guns for sale, despite the fact that most people would never use one to harm someone, we look at what happens if a machine gun was in the wrong hands. With dogs it should be the same. A bully XL dog should not be freely available for the sake of the dogs as much as the public.

[@shicey786]

I live in Birmingham and I was sent a raw footage and trust me it was very distressing and horrific hoc video of the attack and it was so horrific ! I wished they released the raw footage on media so people can actually see the injuries to that young man. His shoulder was dislocated literally his limbs falling off from his body and a gifs I’d slit down the middle of his arm! These dogs just need to be put down !!!

[@communityheart8116]

The problem is the owner AND the DOG, plus denialists who state otherwise.

[@involuntarilychad4048]

Problem is, even if it's just a tiny minority of the breed, if one of those dogs goes off you are not going to be able to stop it.

[@mohammadsattar5488]

A.gun is harmless when it's unloaded and just lying there . Doesn't mean it isn't still a weapon or dangerous

[@Kal.E78]

It’s a mixture, certain breeds because they are powerful creatures and their owners. Most staffies are lovely dogs but look at their size, they can do damage. I’ve experienced with a collie cross spaniel.

[@JelMain]

These aren't Staffies.

[@MrDwightKSchrute]

People just need to do the dam research before buying a dog and not just getting because they have seen a Tic Tok video 😂

[@PorkysnewTeeth]

​@@JelMainit was a staffie you melt that attacked in Birmingham

[@aarondavies8486]

​@dimfm9710what a spineless man he is pml I have a bully he is a giant staffy as daft one to we also have a cat the cat is the horrible one in our home but since we had him no smackhead has broken since after 3 brake ins the police did nothing not come out once

[@JelMain]

@dimfm9710 Accidents happen. What was on film was a major meltdown.

[@Sophie-wq5ct]

If a cockapoo attacks my kid I could stop it but the issue is if a dog of this size an strength does it it is unstoppable. I’ve met some lovely XL bullies but they are a weapon and are used as such.

[@dilligaf73]

Sorry but disagree with this woman. All dogs can bite. These dogs just have one of the worst and lock jaw to top it off. My mum has a staff (they're not as bad as pits). She got him from kennels, he was 5 months old. He loved my dogs and most others. When starting pubity he changed. He drew blood on both my dogs and any other dog he came in contact with. My mum has had very high vet bills from the damage he did to a dog. She stopped taking him out after that incident. She spoke to her vets about it and she said 98% of staffs turn. They are the perfect family dog but cant be trusted not to turn. Recently he killed a cat. Mum had to reinforce the garden fence because there are 2 german shepherds next door. If he got through l, there would be a bloodbath. So its not always the owners fault. Yes lots teach thrm to hang off trees n strengthen their lock jaw which is really stupid. Why cant people put a muzzle on the dogs? I have a rescue. Had him just over a year. He attacks hikers, cyclists, remote control cars, dogs, skateboarders, joggers...he never leaves my house without a muzzle on and never comes off a lead. I dont know if he would bite, but I'm not giving him a chance to

[@Lee-ic2yn]

Lockjaw is fake

[@OG-CobraDemon]

@@Lee-ic2yn someone with sense. F*****g lockjaw hahaha. Yeah let’s evolve so once we bite hard enough we will never bite again hahaha

[@dilligaf73]

@Lee-ic2yn no, it's not. They have to be trained to use it, its not automatic, but it does exist

[@OG-CobraDemon]

@@dilligaf73 When a dog bites down on something and holds on, refusing to let go, this is a result of mental tenacity rather than a physical mechanism. These dogs may engage in a game of tug and decide the prize is so great they don't want to give it up. A dog determined to hang onto the tugger will clamp down with their jaws but it is muscular effort and determination that keep the mouth shut, rather than a true lock. These dogs will typically growl as they tug. In order to get a better purchase, they'll also sink backward on their haunches, using all their body weight to pull backward. The dog often pulls rhythmically, shifting their weight to-and-fro, to try and get a better purchase on pulling. The dog often concentrates quite hard, which often means they stop wagging and their tail goes straight. During a full-on game of tug, the dog may well be caught up in the moment. Never try and pry the dog's jaws open as this will only make the dog more competitive and determined to hold on. Also, in a worst-case scenario, in the heat of the moment, the dog may try to bite the hand attempting to remove the object. Science my guy stop spreading misinformation and educate yourself

[@OG-CobraDemon]

The canine jaw is a hinge joint to allow the mouth to open and close. For the jaw to lock in place would require a ratchet mechanism that just doesn't exist. So the short answer to 'Can dog jaws lock?' is "No"

[@midasali793]

Another example in this country showing a unqualified person in a profession. Moral of this interview is........ We all can be an expert in any profession u just need to know how to talk bollocks

[@mattgoldsbrough3929]

Well bred and trained dogs are a wonderful thing. However, you wouldn’t allow someone to walk a well trained wolf, because in the wrong hands, they’re deadly. I’m afraid that dogs like this should be banned, 100%.

[@aarondavies8486]

Hahahaah sheep you keep feeding on that fear just what they like bet your jabbed least 3 times ain't you I have a xl bully that lives with a cat my dog has been attacked twice by labs

[@theriddler145]

I've got a rottweiler and she loves nothing more to climb up and sit next to me. It makes my blood boil these idiots saying rottweiler are dangerous a yappy chihuahua can be just as bad

[@awgmvrg3686]

This is a very similar argument to the argument us Brits have with Americans about guns, they always seem to retaliate with that "guns arent the problem but the person holding the gun". I stand with the idea that if you get rid of the foundational problem then you'll diminish the fatalities/ injuries in the long run which seems to be the case here. Like many people have mentioned before me, a lot of the demographic who buy this breed do so with the intent of not properly training it and using the dog more as an asset which is a shame for the breed itself.

[@patrickdegenaar9495]

There is a big difference to being mawled by a massive ball of muscle with jaws capable of crushing bones, and being bitten by a chihuahua having a bad day.

[@Lilym661]

Of course dogs differ enormously. You would not see a bully type dog used as a guide dog, each breed has different characteristics. Sheep dogs are super intelligent and need constant stimulation, so would not be suitable for someone house bound or a bit slow on their pins. But every dog has its breaking point, and should never be trusted with small children, even the more gentle lab can bite.

[@mlwhepfiorino3392]

Massive amounts of money made by unemployed people, in benefits breeding these dogs. Sometimes fetching between £2,000 and £3,000. These dogs are dangerous and their owners irresponsible!

[@familycompactthegrange7014]

What is really frightening is the increasing number of dangerous dogs bred for fighting, as well as for intimidation, in the gardens and homes next door to us, and on the streets such that we will not be able to leave our homes safely.

[@Foxaliar]

American bully is a companion breed, they actually were selectively bred to lower the aggression that the foundation breeds are prone to. This banning breeds bullcrap just leads to the very same kind of irresponsible owners to move on to different breeds. If they can’t handle american bullies, you do not want them to move on to mali, kangal, tibetian mastiff etc. Controlling backyard breeding and dog ownership would be a logical answer, but it will never happen.

[@misty4483]

dogs are breed to have certain traits, and that is what causes this. Temperament along with the physical size and tenacity make this dog a dangerous breed.

[@matthewjohnson2281]

Ban the private breeders that dont look after the dogs. All dogs should be neutered/spayed before adoption and should be chipped by the licenced breeders when the dog is adopted to increase owner accountability. And if an owner is found to be raising bad dogs, they get banned.

[@TheWESTSIDE1967]

The dogs are not the problem but the owners, unfortunately there owned by young men mainly black who use them to guard themselves from police & rivals as most are drug dealers, or as a fashion accessory, sorry but that is the truth, i have seen enough to justify it & only yesterday came across a dog owner like myself who's dog was recently attacked, badly, i have a very gentle Chow Chow & she had one charge at her when she was on a lead & the bully wasn't, this was in a shopping area Westfield to be exact in Stratford, & speaking to the lady who's dog was attacked it seems like the same dog that attacked hers attacked mine, the police don't do anything as they don't with anything today & can't be bothered, il take the law into my own hands if it happens with me walking my dog, unfortunately in this country there seems to be a number that has to be reached, fatalities, before action is taken, bit like bolting the door after the horse has bolted

[@cookiemonster2299]

Stop kicking this dog that's trying to rip my arm off, go and kick the owner instead, it's not the dogs fault! 🙃🙃🙃🙃

[@roblloyd1879]

Yes it is a human problem but the breed plays a major part. Anyone with even an inkling of animal psychology knows that certain breeds are more dangerous than others. The more vicious breeds tend to be kept by the most inadequate individuals. Personally I would limit the breeds available and bring in strict dog licencing. No human child's death is worth even a thousand dogs deaths.

[@roberttopham8911]

I totaly agree ! You need to know the breed you own , and thier needs. I've owned imprted LSG dogs in the past with no.problems.

[@MandyAustin-nl4cn]

You're right. They can snap and attack smaller animals and children.

[@alexedwards6509]

If people were walking around with 6 stone cats and deaths and serious injuries caused by big cats had gone up, would we be saying it's a people problem? It may be an owner problem but those owners have dogs that can and do kill.

[@roberttopham8911]

@@alexedwards6509 your a numpty ! Cats and dogs have different behaviours . One of my dogs was 110 stone could put my head in his mouth , but would cuddle you or a stranger . Or cats or anything . Like i say its the owner.

[@MandyAustin-nl4cn]

@@Chambers36TheEnter it still doesn't justify keeping such animals as pets. I wouldn't want one living next door to my kids and animals.

[@Craftbeerdude]

They are , they love snacking on babies .... they have a long history of this . Get rid of pibbles

[@menzokruizinga]

People need to take responsibility and stop blaming the breed

[@misty4483]

Yes humans created this breed to have certain traits, along with physical power.

[@Drankovich]

@SezHollywood Here here, I'm sick of these people who make excuses for these animals with killer potential, purely on the basis of the human element, you could say the same about a bear or a big cat in that case! They're not entirely wrong but if people can't be trusted to harness the power, nobody should own one. Destroy them all!

[@pip1723]

Ban the lot of them .

[@juliemaddern]

Tell that to the people that's family have been killed by them

[@leetaylor5350]

It’s potentially dangerous dogs in the wrong hands. Should be special licenses or something

[@vernonalexis704]

Only decent response i believe you should understand the breed match it to your lifestyle and weigh up the pro n cons because owning a dog is a big responsibility and alot of these owners are first time owners (inexperienced) and young guys walking them and the dog is more intelligent 🤔

[@smith549371]

It’s not worth the risk. They should be banned

[@supocarta74]

Not about breed its the damage a dog can do with a massive powerful mouth...

[@robertballuumm730]

I absolutely agree! There is no such thing as a bad dog only bad owners. If we're going to ban a breed because of one dog, why not ban cars? More people get killed by cars. This is just a knee jerk reaction to placate the public because of one stupid owner.

[@BOB-WISENHEIMER]

Have you ever been chased by a car? 🤔

[@thegoldenpanther6986]

Of course there such things as bad dogs. If a dog wants to attack, it will attack, no matter how well you train it.

[@everyman1]

It's not just one dog. The highest number of incidents and deaths involving dogs have been bullies. Whether it's the dogs or the owners is irrelevant anyway. People are getting attacked and kids are getting killed. Either way they should be banned.

[@Andygb78]

I'm off to work on my XL bully.

[@OG-CobraDemon]

@@Andygb78I’m laying on the sofa having a chill day cuddling mine

[@zahirkhan4576]

These goody two shoes behaviourists need to be dropped off in the Antarctic and just left there. They care more about dogs than people.

[@jameschilvers6793]

Finally someone with common sense !

[@tommysmith5479]

I get really annoyed when people say "it's not the dog, it's the owner". Yes, the owner is at fault but there are certain breeds that are bred to be aggressive and that are prone to unprovoked attacks. And let's be honest: if a chihuahua attacks you, yes you will get bitten but it should be very easy to stop that attack and severe injuries and death is an incredibly remote possibility; but if a bully xl attacks you, being bitten is the thin end of the wedge - severe injuries and death are very likely. So stop telling me that it's not the dog.

[@xeganxerxes4319]

‘Need to be aggressive’. That is 90 percent of the problem though. They might be more inclined to this behaviour but any dog can be abused and traumatised. 90 percent or more of the time these dogs attack I’ll bet it’s the owner or people provoking the dog. This isn’t normal behaviour for any dog, aggressive or not. Yes, ban them if they are dangerous. I won’t argue with that approach if it saves lives. I’m just saying the real problem is the humans

[@janetginty1847]

All dogs are how you train them and look after them anyone can make a dog fight for no reason but it takes a proper loving owner to make a good dog

[@mrmyorky5634]

Rubbish, not all dogs are how you train them, there is always the occasional bad apple, just like human beings.

[@channelI748]

It's very well saying it's the owners but we have no way to control the owners but we have the power to ban the dog.

[@JackoJackson-v2p]

It's the owners. My neighbour has a dog like that program called lassie ..most vicious dog in the world in my eyes this dog was a killer. It killed 3 cats and about 20 birds. I know a badger was killed by it and I witnessed a guide dog get attacked by this dog. It's the most disturbing incident I have ever seen in my life. It's the owners ....

[@JelMain]

Stop distracting from the issue. For this problem to have returned indicates the first fix wasn't strong enough. Perhaps we should nab them in pairs and swap the owners, so they get to experience life on the receiving end.

[@andrewmalone3073]

Where are these people when s child is mauled or killed?

[@rouker1]

Beware of the owner not the dog

[@JelMain]

No, beware the owner AND the dog.

[@LerxstDirkandPratt]

I bet that the EU would FORCE these dogs on us.

[@Matt-uj6jm]

These dogs need to be banned as do the owners. This woman talking rubbish what if she had a family member torn to death 🤫🤡

[@rosemarielee7775]

Theres always a devil dog of the day. Gsds, rottweillers, dobermans, pitbulls have all had their time.

[@DeleteExistence]

Chihuahua

[@Scitch-et4vk]

The breed is the problem too