XQC Might Be the Dumbest Person on the Internet

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@greenisnotnick
@greenisnotnick Жыл бұрын
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@monumentethos
@monumentethos Жыл бұрын
Morgan & Morgan really be branching out recently 😭
@hanniballz.
@hanniballz. Жыл бұрын
so wild that a youtuber is sponsored by morgan & morgan
@dorkchops
@dorkchops Жыл бұрын
morgan and morgan burned my house to the ground
@Ahhahhhsiisis
@Ahhahhhsiisis Жыл бұрын
Facebook has this problem. A lot of my Facebook friends have monitized their accounts and started posting reelz, viral reels/ tik toks and getting a following from it (and Facebook pays for these interactions) The Facebook posts are never credited and it’s meant to gain attention but it doesn’t change that they’re stealing peoples videos and making money off it.
@theyluv_vannie
@theyluv_vannie Жыл бұрын
morgan and morgan stepped on my cat
@beccacleveland3116
@beccacleveland3116 Жыл бұрын
xqc reminds me of that quote "Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the bird is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway."
@nunpho
@nunpho Жыл бұрын
Yup and that's literally what he's doing. He's pretending that he's won and is hoping that his fans believe him
@gargeebasak9648
@gargeebasak9648 Жыл бұрын
Vaush was reacting to the debate and this is exactly what he said.
@anotherwaterfrog
@anotherwaterfrog Жыл бұрын
LMAO
@iggysdinners7092
@iggysdinners7092 Жыл бұрын
OMG I fucking love that quote because it's so true! In my family we have another one: "Never try to fight with a pig, becaus you'll both end up rolling in the mud and the pig will like it". Not exactly the same meaning but also a nice one!
@nixipixi8945
@nixipixi8945 Жыл бұрын
Omg.. that has got to be the best thing I've heard in a long time. Lol!
@ethgray9350
@ethgray9350 Жыл бұрын
I love watching these drama videos on people I don’t know or care about, it’s like overhearing an argument at a restaurant
@limelacroixcan
@limelacroixcan Жыл бұрын
so accurate
@Ms.Fluffington
@Ms.Fluffington Жыл бұрын
Me too! It also make me realize I'm glad I don't know the internet that well
@bankrolDiggy
@bankrolDiggy Жыл бұрын
fr nick is my first and last exposure to any of this stuff and i like it that way haha
@cyrus2430
@cyrus2430 Жыл бұрын
you worded that perfectly
@azzy9932
@azzy9932 Жыл бұрын
right??
@luffyduffy7817
@luffyduffy7817 Жыл бұрын
Im sorry but Hila saying "my husband looks awesome" after xqc tried to go for his looks is so damn cute
@woody_you_want
@woody_you_want Жыл бұрын
And why come for Ethans hairline? It's immaculate
@nunpho
@nunpho Жыл бұрын
And her big smile when saying "I'm having my third baby with him" was too cute 🥹
@lestatsluv317
@lestatsluv317 Жыл бұрын
They are so fucking cute! I have never seen a married couple who are so obviously crazy about each other. I have watched them for a long time (long before the podcast) and I have always believed they are couple goals. Lol
@lestatsluv317
@lestatsluv317 Жыл бұрын
​@@woody_you_wantHow dare he try to come for the hairline of the hairline king. That might be the dumbest thing he said the whole debate..... and that is quite a feat.
@nunpho
@nunpho Жыл бұрын
@@lestatsluv317 I agree, they're made for each other. Lena and AB are adorable too
@shiraya318
@shiraya318 Жыл бұрын
The most transparent thing xqc said was "people would rather watch me on the floor doing the worm instead of watching the original videos" because it shows what he REALLY thinks about these smaller creators. Like, that is so insulting to those creators and it's clear he doesn't give a flying sh*t about them.
@g.j.9515
@g.j.9515 Жыл бұрын
he really should do a react-free week. even if he isnt smart enough to appreciate a videos actual contents and ideas he might appreciate their existence
@nazomius7033
@nazomius7033 Жыл бұрын
Idk why these idiots farm more drama just for xQc to use them in his vids for content. He’s an entertainer, alright? He’s using you fools for content! And you’re all falling for it!
@nazomius7033
@nazomius7033 Жыл бұрын
@@felinemoonchild WHO ASKED?
@freejeffery24
@freejeffery24 Жыл бұрын
@@nazomius7033huh?
@alexiswhite1511
@alexiswhite1511 Жыл бұрын
@@nazomius7033 ME
@smashingmolko
@smashingmolko Жыл бұрын
"He brought his wife out and she like supported him." Oh God, IMAGINE. A wife who supports her husband and agrees with him? Blasphemy.
@wumbojet
@wumbojet Жыл бұрын
A wife, who owns the company you're maliciously criticizing, who came to talk about her company because she's the one who manages it
@zoeelerby2423
@zoeelerby2423 Жыл бұрын
Can we talk about how fast she came into frame though, she heard this fool *attempting* to diss her and her husband's livelihood and the only one in XQc's corner is a physical insult toward Ethan, which Hila immediately shuts down with a smile and "My husband looks awesome, I'm having a third child with him🥰"
@StevenZephyc
@StevenZephyc Жыл бұрын
It gets better when you realize X's wife is divorcing him rn
@jilliansmaniotto2326
@jilliansmaniotto2326 Жыл бұрын
@@zoeelerby2423 she usually watches the show while she’s working in the teddy fresh part of the building. she’ll show up in chat sometimes.
@pros_0143
@pros_0143 Жыл бұрын
I thought wife = bad.
@MosesSuppose
@MosesSuppose Жыл бұрын
Calling it a debate was super generous of you lol
@MosesSuppose
@MosesSuppose Жыл бұрын
@noahbierma5665honestly yeah that’s a good point
@shuriflwrs
@shuriflwrs Жыл бұрын
​@noahbierma5665yes
@MagickP00dle
@MagickP00dle Жыл бұрын
Ethan was debating. XQC was just outclassed and genuinely too stupid to hang.
@0ptimuscrime
@0ptimuscrime Жыл бұрын
It’s just an argument, debates have rules and structure
@ebdgr
@ebdgr Жыл бұрын
​@@0ptimuscrimeright...which Ethan was sticking to.
@irenestath3762
@irenestath3762 Жыл бұрын
watching xqc in this debate made me realize that you can still be an "entertainer" even if you never learned how to talk
@KanadaJin
@KanadaJin Жыл бұрын
Mimes of the world crying silent tears rn
@toast6375
@toast6375 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@KanadaJin”silent tears” I hope that was intentional.
@BOATNEXTDOOR
@BOATNEXTDOOR Жыл бұрын
He just talks so weird I can’t deal with it😭
@Kalitayy
@Kalitayy Жыл бұрын
Circus animals were a thing because of this
@bitefesili
@bitefesili Жыл бұрын
you saying learnt tied it all together
@nola1439
@nola1439 Жыл бұрын
Not only did Teddy fresh fire the employee who secretly stole a design from a 80s knitting book. They then reached out to the original designer, paid him, then collaborated with him on more designs.
@p1pe
@p1pe Жыл бұрын
fr? damn, thats mature asf
@TeenyWeenyDork
@TeenyWeenyDork Жыл бұрын
i love that ✨ hila is such a queen, hehe 🫶🏼
@charlesfuzak
@charlesfuzak Жыл бұрын
Not a huge fan of H3 but that is the perfect way to resolve that issue. Hats off to them.
@ellamartin7296
@ellamartin7296 Жыл бұрын
“because you’re just sitting there saying silly shit and doing the worm” has to be one of the funniest things i’ve heard in a while
@lilaviolettaxo
@lilaviolettaxo Жыл бұрын
no literally LOL
@lunamercury_3113
@lunamercury_3113 Жыл бұрын
i cackled
@missgg8
@missgg8 Жыл бұрын
A literal circus
@kelvisaisawesome
@kelvisaisawesome Жыл бұрын
⁠@@lunamercury_3113i was gonna say, “you mean crawled?” But then I realized worms don’t crawl .-.
@cindygrape
@cindygrape Жыл бұрын
Damn when Hila said "I run Teddy Fresh so you should be talking to me" her CONFIDENCE is EVERYTHING! I admire her so much
@strawb_short_cake
@strawb_short_cake Жыл бұрын
ikr?? Especially knowing she used to be a rather shy and softspoken person. Ethan is also always very outspoken about Hila getting the proper credit she deserves for her work, because as the more public and recognizable person, a lot of people just accredit TF's success to Ethan when it's very much Hila's company built on her art and designs. I didn't follow what was going with the drama so I wasn't aware of the art theft incident but I'm also so glad they took it so seriously as a company and worked to make it right :)
@guy124
@guy124 Жыл бұрын
Watching xqc argue is so frustrating lol, he always gets emotional and just starts attacking people personally, and making incoherent arguments. It's like watching a 13-year-old trapped in a grown man's body.
@yitterskitter5223
@yitterskitter5223 Жыл бұрын
I swear I saw this exact comment word for word on the video hasan posted
@briochie
@briochie Жыл бұрын
It has to be his strategy. I guess all he needs to do is keep his fans entertained and he’s got it made. He was never going to approach this in good faith from the start.
@weirdfleximnotokay3260
@weirdfleximnotokay3260 Жыл бұрын
@@yitterskitter5223i saw the exact same on SomeOrdinaryGamers 😭😭
@TurbopropPuppy
@TurbopropPuppy Жыл бұрын
"a 13-year-old trapped in a grown man's body" describes xQc pretty aptly
@loveableheathen7441
@loveableheathen7441 Жыл бұрын
​@@yitterskitter5223Notice he joined 1 months ago and only has 1 comment on this channel. Burner bot account
@mrUnknownIdetity
@mrUnknownIdetity Жыл бұрын
X doing the worm in response was the most cringe moment I've seen this week.
@b3dubbs72
@b3dubbs72 Жыл бұрын
Generous even calling it the worm. More like the inchworm.
@groigen
@groigen Жыл бұрын
i don’t know anything about this situation, i’ve only just started the video and i’m not sure if this is satire or if this is something that he seriously did yet. i’ll find out
@woody_you_want
@woody_you_want Жыл бұрын
He sucked in that debate, but that was peak content
@Annawannaa
@Annawannaa Жыл бұрын
@@b3dubbs72my EXACT thought 😂
@nunpho
@nunpho Жыл бұрын
​@@groigenas someone who watched live and knows what happened... This gave me a giggle.
@di3tPepsi
@di3tPepsi Жыл бұрын
XQC is fighting sssniperwolf for the title of Worst Reaction Channel on the internet, and they're both losing
@presidentalpaca
@presidentalpaca Жыл бұрын
whats extra funny is that they're both going up against youtube relics (affectionate) who've experienced just abt every iteration of this website. also both of whom post so much goofy silly content that a ton of people seem blindsided by how smart they are
@tluvsbeauty1
@tluvsbeauty1 Жыл бұрын
^ omg yes jack and Ethan leading each side of the charge, bahaha
@ellalalalalalalalalalalalala
@ellalalalalalalalalalalalala Жыл бұрын
i love when the internet finally rallies to stop stupid reaction KZbinrs that probably only profit off the numbed minds of children with no supervision over what they're watching online
@stephaniewilliams1110
@stephaniewilliams1110 Жыл бұрын
@@ellalalalalalalalalalalalalaI have a kid and I can confirm that most of their audience are children and it’s infuriating. I can’t stand people who just sit and react to videos with the dumbest things to say about it or just the most obvious. Getting views from kids who don’t know how to even form their own opinions to know what’s going on makes me so mad. I don’t let my son watch them but he clicks on them sometimes but I change it lol
@ciciamanda.
@ciciamanda. Жыл бұрын
@@stephaniewilliams1110 just a tip, you can choose to have youtube not recommend certain channels by clicking the 3 dots next to a video and selecting "dont recommend channel". Just in case u didnt know and really wanna keep those channels away from him :)
@annagardiner8351
@annagardiner8351 Жыл бұрын
XQC’s energy is so off-putting. He’s like the dude who comes up to you at the bar and won’t leave you alone. He’s erratic and clearly delusional.
@5VBU
@5VBU Жыл бұрын
honestly he's just so quebecois
@robipxpn
@robipxpn Жыл бұрын
overwatch player
@Something125_
@Something125_ Жыл бұрын
@@robipxpndon’t lump us up with him.
@robipxpn
@robipxpn Жыл бұрын
im one too buddy and i can confidently lump all of us together@@Something125_
@thirdhandlv4231
@thirdhandlv4231 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what type of person you would be if you had a spotlight aimed at you, considering this childish judging of other people in a comment section im guessing it wouldn't be anything pretty. MIght make me barf.
@charlespeter5610
@charlespeter5610 Жыл бұрын
I think people misinterpret Ethan’s position as anti-react content when that couldn’t be further from the truth. He wants *fair use* react content. There’s a big difference and you can tell who does and doesn’t understand fair use just by how they interpret Ethan’s position
@koreancowboy42
@koreancowboy42 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, Ethan is arguing that Reacting isn't bad, it's the intentions behind the reaction. Cuz reacting does draw away the original content creator's views.
@trueMAXIMUS
@trueMAXIMUS Жыл бұрын
yeah that’s was the only thing that bothered me about nick’s video was that he didn’t seem to fully understand that a) ethan & hila are like…the people who ser the precedent for react content on youtube b) they DEFINITELY don’t hate all react content they just don’t like outright thieves like xQc c) he was specifically debating over KZbin CURRENT RULES & REGS. he wasn’t advocating for new legislature, he was just arguing about the rules that currently exist. and also HE IS THE ONE PERSON ON YT THAT UNDERSTANDS THESE RULES THE MOST. just felt like such silly outliers comments from nick when he’s like “i don’t fully agree with either party” and then say things that ….. 100% align with ethan’s views lol
@koreancowboy42
@koreancowboy42 Жыл бұрын
@@trueMAXIMUS exactly Everyone can come to agreements that stealing videos and views is bad. People like Hasan and XQC just ruins react content for everyone else that does it. And what you said I can agree with, Ethan is standing strong compared to XQC in a debate. XQC is just there to argue over something he doesn't even know what he's talking about. Even more so he resorted to mostly side arguments and strawmans that had nothing to do with fair use and copyright rules/law. He didn't mention anything new to rectify the problems. Also he still yet to pay the 10x to Vincent and acouple other people that he so mentioned not answering Ethan straight up on the question if he even paid anyone back for stolen content.
@trueMAXIMUS
@trueMAXIMUS Жыл бұрын
@@koreancowboy42 yes 100% !! it's just so pathetic on xQc's behalf and he keeps getting away with it because his audience is primarily children. i used to be okay with the guy back when he was an Overwatch League player but he just kept screwing up his opportunities by behaving like a jackass, and it's only gotten worse. can't wait til he pulls a logan paul and starts outright scamming his audience. hopefully vince and everyone that xQc has stolen from are compensated in the future
@koreancowboy42
@koreancowboy42 Жыл бұрын
@@trueMAXIMUS that's the thing XQC's entire fanbase is children and halfwits. Children are the most easiest fans to get and he's abusing it to his advantage. Hasan has no excuse at this either, the fact he had the nerve to defend XQC makes him one of the worst Co hosts I've seen yet in podcasts and or conversations. Ethan should've straight up found someone else for a cohost Should've gotten in touch with Efap. Mooler and Rags and the others whom I love their content they recently went over Ethan Vs XQC incident and they knew XQC was bullshitting and no taking it seriously but still had a reasonable conservation talk about the issues. Like this is why I kind dislike today's social media and communities. It's that social media is power in the content creation platforms. Someone with smaller fanbase won't go confront a bigger fanbase. They'd go to some like like Ethan or TheActman and or Efap. Like their people who understands everything they've been there. Especially with TheActman and everyone else destroyed QuantumTV xD for his abuse of copyright spams And honestly XQC doesn't deserve millions of dollars
@katiehambrick4079
@katiehambrick4079 Жыл бұрын
This dude arguing with Ethan gave me the vibe of that kid in high school who thought he was smarter than the teacher trying to correct the teacher. And he gets shot down immediately when the teacher explains to him why he’s totally wrong. And then he cries like a baby.
@gh0stpuppi333
@gh0stpuppi333 Жыл бұрын
Im looking at u Justin
@PootPootPearl
@PootPootPearl Жыл бұрын
@@gh0stpuppi333it’s always the justins
@ohitsclemenTIME
@ohitsclemenTIME Жыл бұрын
I just don't get where xQc thought he had a dog in this fight... Ethan literally set the legal precedent for fair use.
@tluvsbeauty1
@tluvsbeauty1 Жыл бұрын
Exactlyyyyyyyy! Ppl seem to forget that Ethan is quite literally the most expert creator on this topic AND has recently become an incredibly skilled debater lol
@grungepen
@grungepen Жыл бұрын
​@@tluvsbeauty1yes this !! Ethan is great at debates because he calls people out no matter what
@ohitsclemenTIME
@ohitsclemenTIME Жыл бұрын
​@@tluvsbeauty1agreed! I've loved watching him grow and become more skilled in debating.
@cuddlesthebear1815
@cuddlesthebear1815 Жыл бұрын
Ethan did NOT set the legal precedent for fair use, The judge in his case specifically said this ruling does not apply to anything else and it depends on a case by case basis
@UnkownWonders
@UnkownWonders Жыл бұрын
​@@ohitsclemenTIMEsame thing then
@ladyvanda
@ladyvanda Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Vince Vintage reached out to xQc to take him up on the 10x offer right after the debate, and xQc just left him unread. Vince says he only received a swarm of shitty dm’s from xQc fans.
@choco-muffin5375
@choco-muffin5375 Жыл бұрын
That’s so shameful. xQc is truly a content leech.
@XxWinterxX-lv3ef
@XxWinterxX-lv3ef Жыл бұрын
@@choco-muffin5375 his twitter says he was on a flight when he got the message, which checks out because he moved again
@jebbyy32
@jebbyy32 Жыл бұрын
Colour me shocked
@verycool5251
@verycool5251 Жыл бұрын
lol, xqc's editor team emailed vince a couple of days ago which vince didn't respond to. only like a day ago vince sent that 10x offer dm and this was while xqc was travelling. vince only used this opportunity to jump on the bandwagon
@jebbyy32
@jebbyy32 Жыл бұрын
@@verycool5251 so is it the email offer or the verbal offer? Is it actually 10x or is that simply publicity? Is the 10x thing for people like you to go. Ooooo see 10x!!!
@Bri-ib1mp
@Bri-ib1mp Жыл бұрын
I don't know who gave XQC the idea that he's good at debating, whenever he does this type of shit his audience just makes fun of him 😭
@gargles5270
@gargles5270 Жыл бұрын
whenever xqc does ANYTHING his audience makes fun of him 😭i watched a stream vod one time a while ago and the whole chat just calls him the r word and makes fun of him, it’s so sad
@al-sz6ry
@al-sz6ry Жыл бұрын
@@gargles5270 yeah, he’s a step above a lolcow at this point. he does have followers that will defend him, but largely, no one, not even his own friends, take him seriously. he’s effectively a court jester.
@daanardon3586
@daanardon3586 Жыл бұрын
@@gargles5270 U are making fun of him but ur commenting on a drama that happens outside of your own life, actually cronically online these people
@gargles5270
@gargles5270 Жыл бұрын
@@daanardon3586 sorry if there was a misunderstanding here, i’m not “hating” on him, i was pointing out what i observed by reading his chat in a vod i’d watched of his. i even commented on it at the time about how mean everyone was being. i don’t really like xqc but its not that serious to me
@kaitlynmorgan4613
@kaitlynmorgan4613 Жыл бұрын
⁠​⁠@@daanardon3586 it isnt chronically online to watch a few videos and talk about it. even making fun of people isnt chronically online
@shameonyou1681
@shameonyou1681 Жыл бұрын
the way he clams the fuck up and started acting so damn normal when Hila talked to him had me in tears like he's literally the incel gamer king
@Jane-oz7pp
@Jane-oz7pp Жыл бұрын
Ethan being the final boss of debate bros is kinda fitting because the debatebro sphere used to claim he was a bad debater lmao
@ohitsclemenTIME
@ohitsclemenTIME Жыл бұрын
My favourite out of all the opponents has been the NXIVM dude who faked tourettes and him finding out Ethan has tourettes. Possibly my favourite moment on the internet
@bondickle
@bondickle Жыл бұрын
Tbf Ethan has been getting better. But that's ALSO a good thing because it shows if you work on something, you can progress. He doesn't have to rely on trying to pull "got you" moments, he slowly cooks them lol
@brookee4987
@brookee4987 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been really surprised with Ethan lately honestly he’s been getting better at debates and learning/growing. Cause he wasn’t always at this level, you can tell he’s grown since the first few debates
@weaj_
@weaj_ Жыл бұрын
I don’t think that he thinks of himself as a great debater either though. Recently he called himself something like “a litmus test for dumbasses” and tbh I agree it’s not like his opponents have been intellectual powerhouses lol. But that’s what makes it so great, they’re still willing to go on the show and fall flat on their face
@michellechair
@michellechair Жыл бұрын
​@@bondickleyeah he's grown a lot as a person and a content creator over the last few years
@ebdgr
@ebdgr Жыл бұрын
Xqc: "debate me, old man" Ethan: *does that* Xqc: "paid actors...I dont care...I have stats... Hasan does worse" *huffs copium*
@matt.stevick
@matt.stevick Жыл бұрын
Papa bless ✌🏼❤
@RealFaodail
@RealFaodail Жыл бұрын
XQC: I will debate anyone on this topic Darkviper: Sure XQC: No I’m scared of your audience:( Darkviper has repeatedly disproven everything XQC says.
@Aaaaaalakrb
@Aaaaaalakrb Жыл бұрын
The whole paid actor excuse reminds me of a karen using “brainwashing” as an excuse to completely deny middle school physics 😭
@briochie
@briochie Жыл бұрын
The fact xQc is still around baffles me. I feel like every time there is a drama he’s attached to the belly like a barnacle.
@spacyh8469
@spacyh8469 Жыл бұрын
I’m convinced that if he stepped out of his cave he would instantly burst into flames and that he’s stuck in his crusty gaming chair
@TurbopropPuppy
@TurbopropPuppy Жыл бұрын
The Ugly Barnacle
@bondickle
@bondickle Жыл бұрын
​@@spacyh8469well now you've seen him do the worm you know he isn't entirely stuck to that chair lol
@michellechair
@michellechair Жыл бұрын
it's because he has thousands of children watching his content who are just as dumb as he is and think he's the second coming of christ 😭😭😭
@wildfirefox1
@wildfirefox1 Жыл бұрын
I love Ethan's "huh???" When XQC says the creator is a paid actor 😂😂 The genuine confusion and pain in his voice is amazing
@kittydollkori
@kittydollkori Жыл бұрын
I do really wish everyone would stop looking at this as just drama. Fair use is important. The work Hila and Ethan both have done for fair use will do so much good for the future of media.
@loveline119
@loveline119 Жыл бұрын
I love learning about drama that doesn't reach my side of the internet and that I wouldn't have any desire of learning at all except when Nick does it.
@ash_tray
@ash_tray Жыл бұрын
Same I don’t know who XYZ even is 😂
@Niccipotts
@Niccipotts Жыл бұрын
Same! Especially when I need a break from whatever I’m dealing with, the Interior Design drama video was like a mini brain vacation lol
@Jettmingin
@Jettmingin Жыл бұрын
I'm usually in that same position but this one I'm neck-deep in, unfortunately I suffer from H3/Hasan brainrot so I'm practically an expert on react-gate
@eyahyo
@eyahyo Жыл бұрын
​@@ash_trayalright bro
@acemyname
@acemyname Жыл бұрын
@@JettminginLMFAO same 😭😭
@Gullible-Direction55
@Gullible-Direction55 Жыл бұрын
When you say there isn’t a rule book to go on as far as reacting goes, that’s isn’t the case. Ethan went to court over this and it was ruled that reactions have to be TRANSFORMATIVE. It’s logged in legal documents titled Hosseinzadeh VS Klein. It’s is now a precedent within the court system. Therefore: there is a “rule book”
@tluvsbeauty1
@tluvsbeauty1 Жыл бұрын
I KEEP TRYING TO TELL PPL THIS IN COMMENTS HAHAH. I’m a fupa trooper of 10+ years, and was there through the whole first lawsuit, so I’m so annoyed by ppl acting like Ethan doesn’t know what he’s talking about on this topic (and ppl like Hasan also seem to be painting Ethan as a “react harder” type of person, which he is literally not…)
@RayBertram-d7h
@RayBertram-d7h Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! Papa bless.
@bigdadybojangls9219
@bigdadybojangls9219 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t there essentially 4 criteria that content has to meet in order to be considered transformative?
@Artofcarissa
@Artofcarissa Жыл бұрын
When XQC said he was gonna do the worm I thought he meant the dance move, not literally inching around the room like a worm 😂😂😂
@frankwest9372
@frankwest9372 Жыл бұрын
Isnt that what the worm is tho? You squirm around on the floor. Wasent aware there were any other variations of the worm
@trentforent3390
@trentforent3390 Жыл бұрын
@@frankwest9372 no, XQC was moving like an imchworm. The worm is supposed to be a constant flowing undulation
@frankwest9372
@frankwest9372 Жыл бұрын
@@trentforent3390 Thanks for the clarification 👌
@trentforent3390
@trentforent3390 Жыл бұрын
@@frankwest9372 no problem king
@hopeadler507
@hopeadler507 Жыл бұрын
SAME
@jamey545
@jamey545 Жыл бұрын
Just an update, after xQc repeatedly offered to reimburse Vince Vintage for his losses, Vince DMed xQc 10 times with no response
@cochranellaeuknemosslayevryday
@cochranellaeuknemosslayevryday Жыл бұрын
I love how hila just gracefully walked in ready to destroy him
@joema500
@joema500 Жыл бұрын
Bro she just sat down? she didn't really do anything special lmao 😂
@eatafartsandwich7872
@eatafartsandwich7872 Жыл бұрын
@@joema500neither did your mom when she made you
@natsinthebelfry
@natsinthebelfry Жыл бұрын
​@@joema500 ratio 😂
@joema500
@joema500 Жыл бұрын
@@natsinthebelfry thanks for reminding me of this immensely cringe comment 👍
@ninaxwings
@ninaxwings 10 ай бұрын
Hila destroyer of worlds 😂
@dorkchops
@dorkchops Жыл бұрын
xQc has always looked like the physical embodiment of a large discord server to me
@jdash2680
@jdash2680 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@jrhntr
@jrhntr Жыл бұрын
Amen
@anomalousanimates
@anomalousanimates Жыл бұрын
wajxonapo woa woha wair wwia wai wai wai wai wai wai wai wai wait what?
@kennalikespizza4515
@kennalikespizza4515 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god this is all I'm ever going to see him as now LMAOOOO
@grungepen
@grungepen Жыл бұрын
LMAOO yes
@Dodo129l
@Dodo129l Жыл бұрын
watching this live was soul draining, i wanted to be able to say i was there when it happened cause everyone knew it was gonna be big but jesus christ i was cringing so hard it was so bad it like physically hurt. i think i actually lost my mind when he did the worm
@eggymens
@eggymens Жыл бұрын
i could barely watch it after the fact. i think watching it live not knowing what to expect next would have broken me.
@trishconstant
@trishconstant Жыл бұрын
I had to stop watching
@ebdgr
@ebdgr Жыл бұрын
So unbelievably cringe.
@madibaker222
@madibaker222 Жыл бұрын
It gave me a tension headache listening to it lmao
@jnco300
@jnco300 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I had to check out after the first 10-15 minutes because it was just too embarrassing to physically handle lmfao
@skyekeating349
@skyekeating349 Жыл бұрын
I think a big factor that gets overshadowed by the whole "react harder" argument is respect for the creators and the content that he watches. If he wasn't reacting because he was just so absorbed in how good the video was I think people would probably give him a little more leeway. What this debate really confirmed is that XQC doesn't think creators make content because they like to, or for money. No, he thinks all content is made specifically because he needs to put something on the stream. In the debate he seems to think the people making the content he watches are basically peasants while he's a lord.
@tluvsbeauty1
@tluvsbeauty1 Жыл бұрын
Agreed - great points
@EmyN
@EmyN Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@g.j.9515
@g.j.9515 Жыл бұрын
to be fair for him i think x may be too dumb to actually watch/understand and be invested in videos he stares at
@solartea_
@solartea_ Жыл бұрын
wow, when u put it that way, i can see it. he thinks streaming circle crosses so many paths with the youtube content circle that these people are like producers for the twitch overlords to react to
@MacMac548
@MacMac548 Жыл бұрын
I love how xQc is trying to debate with the man who literally solidified the case law that ALLOWS REACT CONTENT TO EXIST.
@renatal.129
@renatal.129 Жыл бұрын
i think nick's take on the video is kind of generous. Jackfilms did a video on sniperwolf and she was reacting to animators without acknowledging them. Nick gets the good part of react where most people mention him and can trace back to him, for good or malicious reasons, but most creators don't even get acknowledged and that sucks. Imagine making a whole 1 to 2 minute animation by hand, posting it and someone reacting to it gets the fruits of your labor?
@rtdrtd123321
@rtdrtd123321 Жыл бұрын
Yeah nick was basically saying "it's fine for me" and calls the lost revenue "a couple dollars". I guarantee you xqc is making thousands of dollars on these KZbin videos and that's not insignificant to most people
@antlerthyme
@antlerthyme Жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel like I don't entirely disagree with Nick, but I do fullheartedly agree with Jack
@kaylynvandermerwe
@kaylynvandermerwe Жыл бұрын
As someone who did debating in high school for 4 years, went to almost all our outside debates with other schools and competitions... and was bad at debating myself for all 4 years.... this is a travesty
@neliaaa
@neliaaa Жыл бұрын
^^ same 😂😂 interschools were a travesty 😬
@demetriam2408
@demetriam2408 Жыл бұрын
I mean most youtube debates are awful, they don't even follow any basic debate format. I'd find it truly interesting if someone did the intros, rebuttals, questions, conclusions format.
@mxmissy
@mxmissy Жыл бұрын
I was pretty shit at debating during school, but man this is ridiculous.
@qwasze
@qwasze Жыл бұрын
my school has debate and im contemplating joining. should i?
@snooganslestat2030
@snooganslestat2030 Жыл бұрын
​@@qwaszeI think so. Debating properly as well as being able to argue different sides of a topic is imo a great skill.
@benallmon5613
@benallmon5613 Жыл бұрын
XQC pulled out an edited clip and Ethan and his team pulled up the vod in like 5 seconds. It was insane lol. XQC started losing the debate and got personal with it instead of just saying "Yeah, we've both been lazy and we both could do better, ill do better from now on and start asking for permission and try to make things transformative" but ultimately juicers are kids and they could care less if XQC steals content.
@monetchandler1654
@monetchandler1654 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you made this video because I was interested in it but DID NOT want to have to actually watch the whole stream lmao
@rachel3620
@rachel3620 Жыл бұрын
It was painful
@InaneBlatherPodcast
@InaneBlatherPodcast Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@nunpho
@nunpho Жыл бұрын
I think it lasted about an hour and a half. So not the whole stream thankfully
@casrrole
@casrrole Жыл бұрын
Kind of poetic that nick actually made something watchable out of this
@lolaartemis
@lolaartemis Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah. This exactly.
@Deceptibot9477
@Deceptibot9477 Жыл бұрын
The other big thing to note about Ethan is he has won multiple fair use lawsuits and knows what hes talking about when it comes to fair use.
@bagandbroad
@bagandbroad Жыл бұрын
“I think there are strategies before doing the worm” and the very calm job review way it’s delivered left me for dead
@williamdailey792
@williamdailey792 Жыл бұрын
Not to weigh up even more grievances against xqc but this guy has been playing in the pogchamps chess tournament with so much disrespect. Just completely ditching and not showing up some days with no prior warning and jacking with an entire tournament schedule that requires the cooperation of so many creators. Just day after day he is giving himself the worst PR and I don't understand how he has such a massive audience.
@michellel9739
@michellel9739 Жыл бұрын
His audience are kids. Like Logan Paul, most kids/teenagers don't really care about behavior or the ethics involved since they themselves are learning that.
@l.36125
@l.36125 Жыл бұрын
yeah i remember being there for part of the stream the other day and his opponent had to sit there waiting to start the match for 20 minutes while x was out of the room doing who knows what
@orsikocs
@orsikocs Жыл бұрын
@@michellel9739i wish i could agree i think it’s mainly people who just don’t care n think they are edgy. I know someone that watches almost every stream and he is 26 n pretty much the same i do what i want idc attitude.
@attabooii
@attabooii Жыл бұрын
Yeah like Ludwig's chess boxing tournament, we can supposed to be Ludwig's big finale slap chess opponent. He literally was supposed to show up to the event at 6 pm, he was mia the entire day and they even went to his house several times to wake him up and cdawgva had to last minute step it and replace him
@cassandraburns9073
@cassandraburns9073 Жыл бұрын
The way h3 says "oh perfect!" at the beginning of whats shown has the same energy of a vampire thanking you for inviting them inside
@Fiemus9
@Fiemus9 Жыл бұрын
That's such a good analogy because XQC has definitely gotten all the life sucked out of him 😂
@zeppzz
@zeppzz Жыл бұрын
"I think there are strategies before doing the worm that we can employ to get points across" is such a hilarious statement to say unironically--- and then on top of that hes right
@gypsylee333
@gypsylee333 Жыл бұрын
I know!! 🤣
@lunamercury_3113
@lunamercury_3113 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@icu3869
@icu3869 Жыл бұрын
🪱👀 🙈🙉🙊
@BelindaShort
@BelindaShort Жыл бұрын
The worst part of course, is that his fans, that are mostly children- they'll think what XqC did was funny.
@cowslane1
@cowslane1 Жыл бұрын
Reacting to another creators work on twitch is one thing. Reuploading it to KZbin, unedited with little commentary is another. That’s direct competition on the same platform, and it’s hard to argue for it. Just respect other people’s work, not that complicated.
@KasaiKouhai
@KasaiKouhai Жыл бұрын
I won’t lie, I love react content, whether it be hasan reacting to Japanese apartments or a guy like gorthemoviegod reacting to memes and anime, it’s fun content to watch. And yeah as many have said before it feels like watching things with friends and that’s why I watch it. My problem with xqc’s brand of content is that he never elaborates or even says any opinions about what he watches. Also, if he was just a regular streamer/KZbinr then nobody would really care, but it’s the fact that one of the biggest streamers is this lazy when it comes to something like reacting to a video that pisses people off.
@beth-bi9yv
@beth-bi9yv Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@bobanoda
@bobanoda Жыл бұрын
Hasan’s jcs reactions are some of the funniest and most informative reactions I watch
@nunpho
@nunpho Жыл бұрын
​@@bobanodayeah that's the thing with Hasan, he makes things so informative. It reminds me of how teachers use things to teach. It's wild that people go after him the same as xqc
@demetriam2408
@demetriam2408 Жыл бұрын
Only good thing to come out of XQC was "cheeto"
@gothicxromantic
@gothicxromantic Жыл бұрын
There’s definitely different levels of quality to react content just like with every other genre of KZbin video. It’s not bad as a whole. But unfortunately some of the laziest/worse creators are the most successful and become representatives of the whole thing.
@jilliansmaniotto2326
@jilliansmaniotto2326 Жыл бұрын
morgan & morgan is unethical as fuck. wild to see them sponsoring youtube content like this. they’re majorly disliked in the legal world by other firms *and* judges. they’re required to be non-cordial and inflexible with opposing parties, which makes them less likely to get beneficial settlements or beneficial concessions from the other side, more likely to get unfavorable rulings due to clogging dockets with housekeeping motions that judges expect people to work out on their own, and all of that drives up risk and expenses for clients. they’re a plaintiff-side personal injury firm, so you’d expect them to be “the good guy,” but they’re not - their tactics are harmful for their injured clients. edit: them paying youtubers for ad reads also might be an ethical violation in terms of rules surrounding attorney advertisements.
@tedddybear
@tedddybear Жыл бұрын
Woah didn’t know about any of this! It’s seems like there aren’t any non-sketchy yt sponsors these days
@Anr1231
@Anr1231 Жыл бұрын
I WAS LOOKONY FOR A COMMENT LIKE THIS
@nukhbaguloter
@nukhbaguloter Жыл бұрын
!!!! thank you. i’m in law and have heard of people who were opposing them and they were absolute hell to deal with.
@jilliansmaniotto2326
@jilliansmaniotto2326 Жыл бұрын
@@nukhbaguloter yup. an internal memo came out a few months ago showing that it’s an actual mandatory policy. totally insane to have that policy in the first place, but putting it in writing is top-tier crazy.
@michelleb2722
@michelleb2722 Жыл бұрын
I find it a bit weird that Nick didn't look into this random law firm wanting to sponsor him.
@Ash-xt1ej
@Ash-xt1ej Жыл бұрын
I think there are two things that are key here. 1. The difference between commentary and reaction. One is just someone silently watching a video, throwing in some oohs and ahhh. Commentary provides actually thoughts and opinions on topics. 2. For the love of god just cite the source and get permission from the original creators
@ciciamanda.
@ciciamanda. Жыл бұрын
yes! I also think respect for the creator of the content they're watching plays a huge part. A creator who says they enjoy the content from the channel, makes it clear which channel it is, pays attention to the video, and adds their own thoughts and opinions is very different from a creator who just uses someone else's content as background noise. I've seen creators put on a video and then proceed to talk over it about unrelated things, play unrelated sound effects over it, go make food, etc. Those creators don't respect the videos creator.
@jimin8006
@jimin8006 Жыл бұрын
Citing? None of these people know what that is lol
@slump_nuggie
@slump_nuggie Жыл бұрын
What xQc does is a watch party
@goldenglowable
@goldenglowable Жыл бұрын
@@slump_nuggiebasically
@kaitlynmorgan4613
@kaitlynmorgan4613 Жыл бұрын
but reaction youtubers (should) give commentary on stuff they see, thats what jacksfilms is fighting for with sssniperwolf
@splashofmilk
@splashofmilk Жыл бұрын
i’m sure i don’t actually have to say this but y’all don’t hire a lawyer based on them sponsoring a youtuber 💀
@jilliansmaniotto2326
@jilliansmaniotto2326 Жыл бұрын
as a lawyer, confirm.
@Roamoat
@Roamoat Жыл бұрын
i think morgan & morgan spends more money on marketing than anything they feel so gross
@jilliansmaniotto2326
@jilliansmaniotto2326 Жыл бұрын
@@Roamoat they are notoriously gross and have a terrible rep in the legal community
@atable2505
@atable2505 Жыл бұрын
Nick, people aren’t against react content and it’s not that they’re saying “react harder,” the issue is the sheer amount of people just blatantly stealing peoples content without transforming it or giving credit.
@trueMAXIMUS
@trueMAXIMUS Жыл бұрын
yes thank you. literally my only problem with nick in an otherwise very good video talking about this debate
@Pragabond
@Pragabond Жыл бұрын
No people do absolutely say that. I mean look at pretty much any reaction channels comments there will always be people saying react harder although to be fair that's mostly just them being pissy a reactor dared react in a way they don't personally like. When it comes to fair use I think saying react harder isn't a completely incorrect way to sum up "put more effort and thought into your reaction". If you react more you're kind of automatically making it more transformative as opposed to just passively watching with some words sprinkled in
@IDoABitOfTrollin
@IDoABitOfTrollin Жыл бұрын
I literally see "react more" as a criticism all the time
@lesewo_
@lesewo_ Жыл бұрын
why is nick getting sponsored by a law firm 😭😭😭
@reeeeeeeeee7192
@reeeeeeeeee7192 Жыл бұрын
Honestly very smart marketing 😭💀 Companies should make more internet/youtube ads.
@budum3
@budum3 Жыл бұрын
Hey law firms need clients too ✊😫
@teiashields
@teiashields Жыл бұрын
the funny thing about xqc is that hes trying to entrap ppl by twisting their words or jumping to conclusions which is already not a good basis for an argument but he cant even do what hes trying to do its incredibly sad
@kikilo9647
@kikilo9647 Жыл бұрын
Well you would have to actually talk and engage in order to do that and he just doesnt stop tweaking or ramble so ...
@bellaxoxox
@bellaxoxox Жыл бұрын
i have been waiting for someone to watch this and call xqc out because watching it live was so frustrating
@gibbyjibby0
@gibbyjibby0 Жыл бұрын
people have been calling him out for a while
@SaintShion
@SaintShion Жыл бұрын
A Hasan Stream came on and he was playing a Jarvis video. I got so into listening to Jarvis while I did my make up I legitimately forgot that Hasan was there cause he didn't say anything for a long time. I realized Mutahar actually has a good point about transformative etc. but idk a better alternative for content hungry streamers
@kaelinn510
@kaelinn510 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@SaintShion Damn, that’s a genuine rarity. Hasan is notorious for pausing videos as he’s watching them to comment or expand on the topic lol
@yeturs69420
@yeturs69420 Жыл бұрын
I find it super frustrating when I pop on a Hasan reaction KZbin clip, and it starts with "BRB I have to pee" and it's a chair stream while the video plays for 10 minutes. All legality and morality aside, that's bad entertainment.
@kaelinn510
@kaelinn510 Жыл бұрын
@@yeturs69420 He also streams for like 10hrs straight or more a lot of the time. It’s live streaming and streamers are humans who have to piss and shit. His chatters literally time his pee breaks and they’re often 2mins or less, so you’re exaggerating on the “chair stream” thing. The fact that you consider someone going to the washroom as bad entertainment and get frustrated by it is beyond ridiculous tbh. All streamers take breaks unless they are doing a short stream. They’re just people, not robots. It would do you good to remember that rather than getting upset over something that is just part of being alive. Would you rather they piss in a water bottle under their desk or something? If so you desperately need to touch some grass dude. Also, just a FYI the reaction channels are fan accounts, so it’s not like Hasan or his editor are deciding to keep those parts in. You’re getting upset by fan accounts and their poor editing, not the actual streamer lol
@Zectifin
@Zectifin Жыл бұрын
I like how this XQC guy wants to use debate terms and then resorts to mean ad-hominem attacks when he is losing, and then gets mad when ethan lightly teases him back. I love when people who interrupt constantly and refuse to stop talking get mad when they are interrupted because they want to make 30 points in one paragraph.
@phillipa666
@phillipa666 Жыл бұрын
Ive never heard of XQC before but he really just looked stupid. His own friend was kind enough to say hey man couldve handled that better and his only response is " bUt i hAVE mOre mOnEy thAn HiM ".. 🙄
@roboguard96
@roboguard96 Жыл бұрын
XQC’s mind is as sharp as a bag of marbles, change my mind.
@bearitbbh
@bearitbbh Жыл бұрын
OMG SAM FISHER (im playing the last level of splinter cell as i write this comment)
@roboguard96
@roboguard96 Жыл бұрын
@@bearitbbh you talking about the first game? That one’s hard I never finished it. It was all about chaos theory for me.
@bearitbbh
@bearitbbh Жыл бұрын
@@roboguard96 yep, funnily enough im actually starting a full series playthrough
@andresmartinezmurillo3596
@andresmartinezmurillo3596 Жыл бұрын
Jjjacksfilms showing off the blatant stealing that sssniperwolf does is my favorite drama that's happening rn
@ollielearner6994
@ollielearner6994 Жыл бұрын
i find it funny how xqc brought up Hasan as if his chat doesn’t constantly tell him to let the video play and stop pausing lmao
@fmadiva
@fmadiva Жыл бұрын
Yea but Hasan also is too prideful to admit he’s wrong sometimes and he encourages the chat to disregard the very valid complaints that some content creators gave about react streamers 🙄
@Valentino016
@Valentino016 Жыл бұрын
Ethan us litreally friends with Hasan and he doesnt callout Hasan for his crappy work he calls out xqc
@starfire4302
@starfire4302 Жыл бұрын
@@Valentino016Ethan literally chewed out Hasan last Thursday over this. He even apologized cause fans thought he went a bit too hard on Hasan
@mewling_mooncalf
@mewling_mooncalf Жыл бұрын
The level of tantrum that XQC is having here genuinely shocks me, my mouth fell open listening to this while I washed the dishes.
@placefantasy1821
@placefantasy1821 Жыл бұрын
The way XQC was so completely checked out when Ethan was reading how the other creator felt until he mentioned Twitter drama. Bro literally lit up like he knew instantly that no matter how this situation goes down he was gonna be getting so much attention from this situation. The complete lack of empathy from XQC makes my blood boil I can’t stand this guy.
@Hamantha
@Hamantha Жыл бұрын
The best reactors pause the video, analyze and voice their thoughts and interpretation; giving something that you can’t get with the original video, sparks conversation, and maybe even introduce someone to the original creator I like to think the silent majority is like that (also asking permission is a must)
@emilime
@emilime Жыл бұрын
I'm honestly surprised he didn't bust out one of his emotional support slurs
@kotabee3630
@kotabee3630 Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHA
@imnobodywhoareu
@imnobodywhoareu Жыл бұрын
wait holy shit has he said slurs ?
@ciciamanda.
@ciciamanda. Жыл бұрын
@@imnobodywhoareu yeah... the most infamous occasion was when he was suspended from overwatch for 4 matches (he played competitively) and fined 2000 dollars for using a homophobic slur against an opponent after loosing a match
@jeffredfern3744
@jeffredfern3744 Жыл бұрын
​@@imnobodywhoareuxqc has "debated" / complained to Hasan that slurs should be okay to say multiple times. XQC is a classic Canadian conservative. I'm honestly surprised given his background he hasn't openlh support Quebec separatism on stream yet.
@knjparadise
@knjparadise Жыл бұрын
STOP
@buddermantheamazing
@buddermantheamazing Жыл бұрын
I don't think the argument has ever been "You reacting to something directly steals views" like how you explained, because yeah that doesn't make sense and everyone knows that. The issue is when someone searches for something and they watch the reaction video instead of the original because it comes up first or has more views.
@Smileyreal
@Smileyreal Жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty much, in the video Nick says something along the lines of "it's not like those views would have gone back to the original creator" which sounds to me like a misconstrued view of what's typically argued. Darkviper for example argues that if these reaction videos didn't exist, the people who watch them would still probably have been browsing youtube and would've just ended up watching some other random video. So as far as i understand it the argument is never really that it steals views but that the views would've otherwise spread across the entire platform.
@RayBertram-d7h
@RayBertram-d7h Жыл бұрын
Yeah, spread to people like the original creator. It just takes one person to share something at the right time for it to go viral. You're right most of the time, but most isn't good enough. Honestly these people could sew xQc and win for incurring substantial damages, but he only takes videos from people that don't have enough income to combat him in court. xQc would burry them financially like Matt Hoss would have done to H3 had it not been for Phil DeFranco. Think for yourself instead of fielding other opinions on the matter and regurgitating them. Y'all would know if you're frontal cortex was ripe already. But clearly you have no life experience, and your take was the least transformative shit I've seen since today's Sssniperwolf drop. You'll see in time that you're on the wrong side of history atm, and I feel bad for you.
@umsimplescara
@umsimplescara Жыл бұрын
The most embarrassing part is the teddyfresh with hila imo, xQc could have made a point that sometimes when you got a team people under you make mistakes and you as the face takes the brunt. XQc choose not to on that route and instead say "me and my editors don't care",that fails because Hila took measures when the copy thing happened, he decides to call bald a man with a full head of hair, and say "i would leave him" when X himself is going through divorce. Couldn't do worse if he tried
@alenisescr
@alenisescr Жыл бұрын
I love Hila so much for standing up for her husband and her brand 🙌🏼
@Sphiane
@Sphiane Жыл бұрын
i really don't understand how xqc ever got this big of an audience frl
@Jane-oz7pp
@Jane-oz7pp Жыл бұрын
Unhealthy looking white boys always somehow do
@michellel9739
@michellel9739 Жыл бұрын
kids/teenagers that can't act out see an adult acting like they would. Like Logan Paul fans.
@Valentino016
@Valentino016 Жыл бұрын
IF you knew his story you would understand
@asuka-ryo
@asuka-ryo Жыл бұрын
I just found out he used to be a pro Overwatch player. I′m not saying he should have put himself in a box and stick to gaming entirely but at least put some effort into reacting 😭
@mffngrffls
@mffngrffls Жыл бұрын
@@asuka-ryo Pro is a stretch, He got suspended like twice and cut from the OWL SO fast... Its the only reason I even know of this guy, he was such a shit head he played like maybe two games lol
@goose_suit666
@goose_suit666 Жыл бұрын
The way he deflected the blame onto his editor 😭 Also I'd rather watch a 32 min video of Nick talking about drama instead of watching a dozen different tiktoks
@APunisherKnight
@APunisherKnight Жыл бұрын
love the saltiness when he mention's Ethan has a 'supportive wife'
@Music7Ada
@Music7Ada Жыл бұрын
You're way over simplifying it the anti-reactor's points. DarkViper, for one, has explicitly stated that commentaries are fine, where you can think and prepare things before recording. I could be wrong, but I believe he implied people like Danny Gonzales are not who he is talking about. No offense, but if they actually uploaded a reaction of your full video "in good faith," then why would they suck all of the value of the original out by making it a video they have now seen in its entirety. Someone who watched that reaction now has no reason to watch the original video and will likely pass it up if it shows in their recommendations which would lower the original's reach in the algorithm. Yes, if reactors didn't feature a certain channel's videos, those views would not strictly go to the original channel, but they would have to go somewhere. The fact that you mention that people who watch the reactor likely wouldn't watch the original otherwise means that the only one benefiting would be the reactor, who put in astronomically less work. DarkViper makes really good points and counter-arguments, some of the arguments you were saying were ones he has countered too and the points I made were paraphrases of his points, which implies you haven't heard his arguments from the horse's mouth and are creating a bit of a strawman.
@sarar4270
@sarar4270 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for pointing this out
@mercury8060
@mercury8060 Жыл бұрын
DarkViper has some good points but they're completely overshadowed by the bad ones in my opinion. So I get where Nick is coming from. It's hard for me to take him seriously after he compared consent to reaction to sexual consent. I know he didn't say they were exactly the same, but even trying to make a connection between the two is insane to me as an SA victim.
@gregorydavison9852
@gregorydavison9852 Жыл бұрын
While I get Nick’s point about reactgate being nuanced. I think its weird to call the largest streamers in the space “fringe” cases. The majority of content and views in the react space are from people like xqc
@cherrymima
@cherrymima Жыл бұрын
why are we surprised he is acting "slimy" and "gross" after selling out to Kick
@Fiemus9
@Fiemus9 Жыл бұрын
Honestly you don't even have to bring recent stuff up. This is the guy who promoted gambling to underage boys. Which funny enough he also debated with Ethan, which made him and Mizkif agree to never gamble again 😂
@cherrymima
@cherrymima Жыл бұрын
@@Fiemus9 i guess critical thinking isn't a skill you need when you're already a multi-millionaire
@Fiemus9
@Fiemus9 Жыл бұрын
@@cherrymima Apparently not, but i dont think it good to lack it, if you want to be a millionaire forever that is.
@TJThomas116
@TJThomas116 Жыл бұрын
Ethan said that the deleted tweets are because xqc shared some personal details about his life in them and Ethan felt like that was a kinda slimy move to share those specifically so he deleted them and apologised for sharing them
@ladyvanda
@ladyvanda Жыл бұрын
No one has ever said “react harder”, this was such a dumb cope by Hasan last time there was react drama. Jay Exci’s criticism was that Hasan put their video on, *hid Jay’s channel name and video title from the screen*, left to make himself chicken tendies and take a dump while the uncredited video babysitted the viewers, came back at the end, said “duuuuuude” and “is this guy disabled” while eating his tendies, then closed the video the microsecond there was a hint of Jay talking about a project they were working on. Then, when people told Hasan he could have at least credited the video, Hasan had a meltdown, banned everyone, yelled: “what am I supposed to do, DIE?!?!?” and pretended people were asking him to react harder. Both Hasan and xQc are incapable of accepting the mildest of criticism. xQc just has a lot more adderall than Hasan.
@Jane-oz7pp
@Jane-oz7pp Жыл бұрын
And then DVAU came shitting all over the floor and derailed the discussion so everyone forgot the literal cause of the drama in favour of hate watching his shitty manifesto video.
@Brianna_Q
@Brianna_Q Жыл бұрын
Jay exci made me realize I'm trans. Just felt like putting that out there.
@Smileyreal
@Smileyreal Жыл бұрын
Hasan is also very hypocritical in claiming to be a socialist when he does the literal most capitalistic thing possible, using other people's hard work for his benefit. I always find it shocking that he's so popular and how people think he's a good person. It's also worth bringing up the "America deserved 9/11 dude", yikes.
@thorthewolf8801
@thorthewolf8801 Жыл бұрын
​@@Jane-oz7ppit was good.
@TheAsheTalketh
@TheAsheTalketh Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU, I came looking for the Jay Exci support. I also remember Ethan (as in Ethanisonline) making a video about react content saying it's fine and loads of people pointed to Jay's video and Ethan was like "no the video is stupid". I like Ethan but I really had to take a step back from their content for a while after that. Also it doesn't sit right with me that Nick is saying it doesn't affect him when he has hundred of thousands of subscribers already. What about others that don't though?
@scabby.knees99
@scabby.knees99 Жыл бұрын
I wish you included the clip of Xqc saying, "When will the tantrum end, Ethan?" after yelling and throwing insults at him nonstop for an hour and a half 🤡
@silverjetplane
@silverjetplane Жыл бұрын
Teddy Fresh even reached out to the original artist that their designer copied from and they licensed the image from him and made it a whole collaboration. Such a bad faith argument from xQc
@HoelJ
@HoelJ Жыл бұрын
Thank you for finally posting Nick. Now I can hold whatever opinions you convey in this video!!
@Orange_96
@Orange_96 Жыл бұрын
@@gotmilkbuttwhatre you talking about 💀
@Orange_96
@Orange_96 Жыл бұрын
@@gotmilkbuttalso i looked at your comment history holy shit 💀
@endyark
@endyark Жыл бұрын
​@@gotmilkbutttf you talking about
@jeja6801
@jeja6801 Жыл бұрын
@@gotmilkbutt what is bestie blabbering about
@afoot4066
@afoot4066 Жыл бұрын
@@gotmilkbuttyou are my favorite person im being serious i love you
@Yakult2276
@Yakult2276 Жыл бұрын
I was laughing so hard watching the debate lmao, great vid nick. I did not hit that guy in Flushing, NY he is lying
@bigsteezyyy222
@bigsteezyyy222 Жыл бұрын
hivemind type comment
@jeja6801
@jeja6801 Жыл бұрын
what an insightful comment. that guy is lying, i did hit that guy in Flushing, NY
@demetriam2408
@demetriam2408 Жыл бұрын
You definitely hit me I have a dashcam with your face directly in frame. Not only will you get arrested for a hit and run which killed multiple pedestrians, but you will not get arrested for purgery.
@OneClickWonder
@OneClickWonder Жыл бұрын
xQc was so insecure that he just had to pop out the "IT'S JOEVER" when Ethan decided to end the debate
@lefcso
@lefcso Жыл бұрын
Sooo.. darkviper is a "freak" bcs he wrote a ""manifesto"" (an unrelased yt video script) criticizing ppl who steal the work of others and profiting off of it?? How? I've got the feeling that you didn't actually read it but then i wonder why would you even have a take on it if you don't know what you are talking about
@Reynolds128
@Reynolds128 Жыл бұрын
The dark viper cylinder must stop😑
@mercury8060
@mercury8060 Жыл бұрын
I personally dislike him because of him comparing consent to reaction to sexual consent. Even if he had some good points, that point was incredibly stupid in my opinion and made me lose respect for him Nick might have similar reasons.
@Reynolds128
@Reynolds128 Жыл бұрын
@@mercury8060 but that was an out of context metaphor in the famous 14 page document and he genuinely apologise for the way it affected people... trust me I believed exactly what you believe and thought he really as bad as everyone was saying but he's not crazy or a freak... He just made a bad mistake.. easily misinterpreted but really twisted by big twitch streamers and KZbinrs... the amount of lies spread about him is insane 😕
@ModestPigeone
@ModestPigeone Жыл бұрын
Davvyyy. How ya’ doin?
@exp5261
@exp5261 Жыл бұрын
about as good as can be expected
@kealops
@kealops Жыл бұрын
When xQc said he got Ethan to mald… xQc was the one who was like “I wanna talk about this particular situation” and as soon as Ethan starts explaining how it was handled differently, cuts him off by practically yelling “I don’t care”
@1bedbug
@1bedbug Жыл бұрын
xqc, reminds me of a kid I went to high school with who made such a fool of himself that the staff and our class did not ever take him seriously. Him being around was such a mood killer; he came to the same college as me, and when he couldn’t get away with his behavior, he dropped out-being childish needs to stop at a point because no growth will ever happen.
@pineapplepen9791
@pineapplepen9791 Жыл бұрын
He reminds me of that one kid who thought he was a class clown when all he did was harass students and teachers
@shortbreadhead
@shortbreadhead Жыл бұрын
He really tried to worm his way out of it
@treeble2793
@treeble2793 Жыл бұрын
Zoe Bee actually had a pretty nice solution to the drama. She proposed a kind of picture in picture version, where you essentially watch both videos at the same time. If KZbin would implement that and both sides got ad revenue from it the entire thing would be fixed. Basically a watch together where the reactor controls the video played. Anyone who has watched League pro play costreams when most co streamers weren't allowed to stream the game itself probably already knows this system.
@orchdork775
@orchdork775 Жыл бұрын
That's a good idea!!
@lukemacdermid2246
@lukemacdermid2246 Жыл бұрын
Personally I think the quality of commentary is an extremely valid argument their is such an obvious difference between reaction creators like you for instance Nick and XQC. You provide thought provoking and entertaining commentary, while XQCs commentary can be summed up by "OMG", "wow look at that guys", "that's so cool".
@verushka7405
@verushka7405 Жыл бұрын
The creator who xqc called a paid actor changed his youtube bio to “i’m a paid actor” 😭😭😭
@briahwelch7256
@briahwelch7256 Жыл бұрын
morgan and morgan won my lawsuit last year from my car accident! genuinely they were so awesome and helpful. they got me my money and advocated for me for like a full 6 months of lawsuit bullshit. super reliable and awesome people. and i didn’t have to pay a cent out of pocket they took it out of my settlement so i didn’t think about it! it was awesome like literally gas love morgan and morgan
@grungepen
@grungepen Жыл бұрын
Aw I'm so happy you won the case !! Congrats to you and I hope your life is given more peace from now on ❤
@EmyN
@EmyN Жыл бұрын
What happened?
@briahwelch7256
@briahwelch7256 Жыл бұрын
@@EmyN i got tboned
@kaylynvandermerwe
@kaylynvandermerwe Жыл бұрын
his totally dejected "yeah.... yeah..." while Destiny is critiquing him is so good to hear
@dave5857
@dave5857 Жыл бұрын
DarkViper's position is perfectly sane and logical, and pretending to misremembering his name while flashing a picture of him on screen is incredibly lame. Reactors are profiting off the hard work of others by streaming (and later uploading to YT) low effort reactions. If people were not watching react content they would be watching *something* else, so it is injurious to original creators on aggregate. Simply providing your opinion while watching an entire video is not fair use. It's not close. Want to know how I know this? Because not a single one of them is reacting to the latest Marvel movie or NFL game while showing it in its entirety. They don't do this because they would get DMCA struck in a heartbeat by entities that don't need to give af about any negative backlash from crybaby reactors and their fanboys. You can easily provide an opinion or reaction without showing the thing in its entirety. But that would require work off stream. And god forbid these parasites have to do any work.
@mattkerr5536
@mattkerr5536 Жыл бұрын
Nick just having to double down no matter what because he's friends with Gabi and Hasan. Why have good ethics or morals when you can defend your friends lies and theft?
@Chr0nicallyILL
@Chr0nicallyILL Жыл бұрын
Ethan is only as mad as he is about the whole thing because he fought for this very precedent on KZbin and it seems like certain react streamers toe the line wayyyyy harder than they should. React content definitely helps and helped with me finding myself on this side of the internet and learning far more than I thought I ever could. But non transformative content definitely doesn’t help the value of content creation.
@cicada5870
@cicada5870 Жыл бұрын
Thank u for summarizing and giving a lil humor to the news, makes it easier to digest as a disabled guy trying to keep up with the “hip cool kids”.
@monumentethos
@monumentethos Жыл бұрын
I have stale chips, half drank water, and I'm ready to watch Green Nick Not Is berate millionaires
@zozoflagnard1
@zozoflagnard1 Жыл бұрын
sick 🍿🤘🏽 and bro fr i hate that last part i almost forgot how out of touch these ppl are 😂😂🤡 and instead of chips i enjoyed a nice lil bowl watching this 🌱💨 n now i need some chips lol 👀🥲🩷💛🩵✌🏽
@cheesygoblin
@cheesygoblin Жыл бұрын
XQC’s face dropping at 14:15 was so funny
@user-op1xu6zv5q
@user-op1xu6zv5q Жыл бұрын
he looked DEFEATED lol
@xenawarriorprincess4495
@xenawarriorprincess4495 Жыл бұрын
Bro literally did this face ☹️
@tleigh4583
@tleigh4583 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick, you’re the first one that’s made this debate palatable enough that I can get through it 😂 the cringe was making my skin crawl
@SoraTrace
@SoraTrace Жыл бұрын
I don't think DarkViperAU is that bad. He really has a point
@imdoneplus
@imdoneplus Жыл бұрын
Ethan’s hairline is like Fort Knox, it’s impenetrable. He’s not bald at all!
@beebeebear
@beebeebear Жыл бұрын
does he not know what ‘the worm’ is? mf did the inchworm 😭
@sagelouisee
@sagelouisee Жыл бұрын
LMAO
@faye9908
@faye9908 Жыл бұрын
friend, although you may never see the grandiose of 10,000 likes, know that this comment made me laugh. liked.
@trishconstant
@trishconstant Жыл бұрын
I definitely laughed as well
@Tejonesss
@Tejonesss Жыл бұрын
Lol Ethan really said I’m bored with you bye like that was amazing
@blueieie
@blueieie Жыл бұрын
I disagree with your take. It’s not about ruining their channel and stopping them from being a creator, it’s stealing. It’s someone’s hard work and intellectual property. I understand and Ethan brought up during the “debate” that sharing content between friends and coworkers is different because you’re all under the agreement of mutual exposure, but there is a rule book about reacting to videos when you don’t have that. It’s like you’re running an art gallery that people have to pay to get in but all the artists aren’t even aware their art is in it and they aren’t getting a kick back on it. It’s theft, and while it’s not ill-intended it’s still harmful. The reason, especially people in the media space, work is protected is thanks to Ethan and the countless cases he won to protect people’s work. To say that it being harmful isn’t the norm when Ethan to this day still helps creators in court because of it is kinda crazy. I’m sorry, so you’re saying that it’s okay to not ask for permission to use someone else’s IP because at the end of the day it works out and it’s good for creators economy?
@ghumashenaa4414
@ghumashenaa4414 Жыл бұрын
i kinda see it more as reacting to the art and sharing that reaction, idk
@blueieie
@blueieie Жыл бұрын
@@ghumashenaa4414 but they still make money off of sharing their reaction. I’m not saying all reaction videos are bad, but the ones who don’t follow fair use are.
@arroe8386
@arroe8386 Жыл бұрын
​​@@ghumashenaa4414If I break into your restaurant, steal some meals, put some salt on them, then go on and sell them at my restaurant, would you say "I see it more as salting the spaghetti bolognese and sharing the salted spaghetti bolognese"? Whether you tell them to ckeck-out the guy who bought the ingredients and cooked them, is another question
@erinys2
@erinys2 Жыл бұрын
Honestly if it becomes completely ilegall to react to everything without asking for permission it will significantly halt discussions.
@blueieie
@blueieie Жыл бұрын
⁠@@erinys2The way that there’s literally a law saying you don’t need permission as long as you follow fair use
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