Simple to understand MOA vs MIL optics

This video discusses the difference from MOA to Mil dot scopes.This explanation is tailored around someone who doesn't know the difference between the two. This is not for the intermediate to advanced shooter.

[@guitarH100]

I have 13 years of undergraduate and graduate training and you are a great teacher. I sought out education on MOA vs MIL and you struck gold with your video. Thank you.

[@tafaragadze6432]

Can you re-explain it to me

[@plowmaster1206]

​@@tafaragadze6432only after 20 years more training. The irony in more education, the more they feel the need to express how much more theyre educated, because obviously education dosent speak for itself

[@HARLEYMLM1966]

Wow, 13 years of school

[@higherlifts420]

​@@HARLEYMLM1966he parades around the streets asking for student loan forgives telling people to vote for Biden

[@hedge7743]

I wish I had seen this year's ago. Everyone turns your simple explanation into cold Fusion. Great job. So simple a Safety Director can understand! (That's big time if you don't know...)

[@Rowrin]

Man, if I had a nickel for every time I've heard "You'll never need to know trig outside of high school" growing up. MOA -> Minutes of Angle -> 60th of degree -> 360 degrees in a circle Mil -> Milli-Radian -> 1000th of a radian -> 2π radians in a circle After that it's just SOH, CAH, TOA.

[@FormaAlert]

Basic maths (mainly trig and very very very simple quadratics) outside of school end up being really useful in life.

[@colb9916]

lol.. ohh man,, when ever i hear high school trig,all my brain comes up with is , X times 5 Y equels kevin .. :0 i much prefer Wild Bill Hickocks "triggernometry" that i can understand .. ;)

[@thedude6146]

My head hurts.

[@darrylryder8114]

Omg I'm an aircraft structures mechanic which means I learned that i needed more math to figure the dimensions of a flat sheet of aluminum to cut, then roll in 3 dimensions, adding the stretch and sometimes the shrink of the shin....😒😣

[@martincolvill5453]

What's trig? I barely got long division!

[@danno1800]

Thanks so much for displaying the difference - helps me make a choice between the same scope - one is MOA the other is MIL. I had no idea the difference. I now plan to buy the MIL. Thanks again - you have a gift for explaining complicated things in terms we can all understand!

[@mo-po]

Sir, I just came here for research, and I thought I was losing it up until now. Thank you!

[@chicowize]

I had to come back to rewatch this. Thanks again. You did great breaking it down for unfamiliar folks like myself. Planning to change my unfamiliarity on this topic 👍🏽

[@armedrealtorakasheepdog6914]

You explained that in terms so simple that even a Realtor (a member of the National Association of Realtors) could understand. Granted, I had to watch it twice to fully absorb it... but by far the clearest and most concise explanation I have ever heard on the subject. Can you please do a similar video explanation on how women think?

[@XRING]

Hahahahahaha ! Now that is genuinely funny !

[@gordonkearney7356]

That Sir comes under a need to KNOW. Also your government has a special dept for just such a thing. You will never be allowed to live long enough to use the info contained within. The reason being the woman of your dreams will give you a headset to listen to the info. Then like mission impossible the headset will self destruct with a pound of C4. ???????

[@davejan744]

"HOW women think!" LMAO!! My mother explaned it best to me as a young man. Taught me "Never try to figure out what a womans going to do next because even THEY don't know!" Im 70 years old & found that to be absolutly true. Just expect the UNexpected & enjoy the ride. Jan can be crusing at 70 MPH & shift into reverse & make a right angle turn w NO warning. Used to drive me crazy. Now I just find it hilarious. Keeps ME on my toes!! 😁

[@MrGaryGG48]

Oh So Funny!! This kinda sorta reminds me of shopping in a grocery store with my wife. I used to frequently get in trouble for bumping her heels when she unexpectedly stopped or turned to inspect something on a nearby shelf. I was automatically guilty of not paying enough attention or I wouldn't have bumped her! My response was, "I'm going to hang a board across your butt with brake lights and turn signals!!" As you might expect, that wasn't particularly well received but I've determined that my most successful shopping technique with my dear wife is to just run down the windows and wait in the car! ;^) (I do get to read a lot of shooting magazines and she never complains about my inattention and her sore heels!)

[@neilblackman2965]

The Armed Realtor James Tiberius women come with different operating system installed from factory, and they don't understand it themselves. The manuals got lost in transit.

[@rudymsmith]

Best description / talk between mil and moa yet - great job!!

[@XRING]

Thank you and thanks for watching.

[@alexmook6786]

This man is pure gold. So knowledgeable and I have learned so much. Best gun expert on KZbin hands down.

[@mikeyb9819]

One of the best explanations of the two measurements I’ve yet to hear. Thanks for posting

[@breakandrun70]

Best yet, I understood your explanation of MOA vs MIL better than I ever have. Thank you. Great video, have a day and stay safe.

[@codymitchell4781]

After dozens of videos this video was the most dumbed down version with the numbers I have been looking for! Thank you

[@kincaidantolin]

Great information for a beginner like me just getting into precision shooting. Cleared up all the confusion between both.

[@MrCabimero]

Sir, you did a very good job of explaining this. I have never heard anyone explain this in a way that I could understand. Thank you!

[@jonathanseal5155]

Bloody great explanation…clear and concise, even for old farts who grew up in NZ on imperial, changed to metric in 1967, came to the US in 83( back to imperial), and been a contractor ever since… I had heard mutterings of Mils and MOA, but as a benchrest and varmint shooter, was either zeroed in, or held over. Now I am starting NRL, the need for knowing what the big knob with all the numbers on the top is for suddenly makes sense‼️ thank you for making it all instantly clear, and I realised I have an MOA scope, so all is good. I can see how the Mil system for ranging seems to be simpler, and more intuitive. Next scope will be in Mils👏👏👏👏

[@tonythebubble3703]

Ok after a bit more research I get it. The important point is that 1 milliradian is 1/1000 of the distance you’re measuring (ie. distance to target). So if your target is is at 1000 yards, 1 mil is 1 yard. If your distance is 1000 meters, 1 mil is 1 meter. So that bit is simple. The not-so-simple bit is that if you’re measuring yards, at 1000 yards 1 mil is 1 yard, which is 36 inches, so 0.1 mil is 3.6 inches. So moa is still easier to work with because you get whole numbers as a starting point when you’re looking at 100/200/300/1000 yards etc. But then 1 moa at 100 yards is not exactly 1” (it’s 1.04”). At the shorter distances it’s close enough, but once you start getting past 1000 yards you probably have to take that into account if you want to stay really accurate. The advantage of mils though is that you can use a mil-dot reticle to estimate your distance. The mil-dot reticle is split into known mil-measures - the dots are 1 mil apart, and each dot is 0.2 mils diameter. So if you know the height of your target you can use the reticle to convert that height into mils, and once you have that height you can work out what height 1 mil is at that distance, multiply that by 1000 and you have your distance to target. So, in summary, moa is simpler if you know your distance, but if you have a mil-dot scope and do the math, you can work your your distance to target. So the fundamental advantage of milliradians over minute of angle is that milliradians are always 1/1000 of the distance you’re measuring, regardless of whether that distance is in meters or yards or inches or feet. You could probably reverse-calculate the distance in moa but it looks like nobody makes an “moa-dot” scope, and most rangefinders work with mils.

[@PunzL]

The key takeaway here is that metric units just make more sense.

[@XRING]

I know, I just reviewed the Howa 1500 with that same scope. Makes it a little harder to do holdovers with such a big range in the reticle.

[@XRING]

Paolo Gallardo I personally think that if you are intending on getting into long range competitions you will be much better off going with mils. If you are just looking at shooting from a bench and just ringing steels then one isn’t better than the other. You should really subscribe and check out my channel. I have a LOT of long range content in there including long range competition related content. I always try to answer all comments. Thanks for your questions.

[@robertboyd3863]

@@PunzL Metric has never made sense to me, just a matter of what you are used to

[@jimedick9496]

I just watched this entire video, and I couldn’t tell you what was just said. I say that because I couldn’t take my eyes off the shelf in the back, and all the glorious goodies that my eyes gazed upon!!! My oh my. I felt like a kid in a candy store!!

[@TruckskeepAustraliamoving]

Maybe the only video on KZbin that explains it simple! Keep up the great job!

[@onolicious9147]

This is good topic. I use both (MOA & Mil ) and both are easy and accurate. But I recommend NOT USING YARDS when using Milradian Optics. it's so much easier to use METERS (metric system). Everything is based on powers of 10 making very, very easy calculations as demonstrated by Bill Dickson. Also, my ultra long distance optics are all Milradian (less cranking on the turrets) including my spotting scope which has Mil reticle as well.

[@XRING]

Great points! Thanks for commenting and adding to the content.

[@sarahconner9433]

Good on you...I don't like mixed values

[@WardBizzell]

Thank you. Excellent video and description. Seen several others trying to explain this and you finally put it into terms that made it "click."

[@lenholt7419]

Great seeing you on on WMMF sure look forward to reviewing all your material. Always learning more every day.

[@Daviswilder1]

Thank you for this video! Explained it better than anyone that's posted a video regarding this question. Cheers!

[@mrcollins63]

One of the best explanation of the two types of Scopes.

[@XRING]

mrcollins63 Thank you Mrcollins and thanks for watching.

[@alpine9996]

All you have to know is that each MOA is 1 inch at 100 yards and the MOA Turret should be in 1/4 (0.25 inch) MOA clicks. at 100 yards, each 1/4 (0.25 inch) MOA click of the turret will move the bullet 0.25 inch. At 1000 yards, with each click, the bullet will move 2.5 inches. With the MilDot scope, each Mil is 3.6 inches at 100 yards and the mil turret should be in 1/10 mil increments (clicks). Each click of the mil turret will move the bullet 1/10 of 3.6 inches (0.36 inches) at 100 yards. At 1000 yards, each 1/10 mil dot click will move the bullet 3.6 inches.

[@XRING]

Precisely! Well summarized Jeff.

[@45auto]

Wish tou had explained the mils using cm. So, at 100m one click of the turret will move the crosshair 1 cm? And at 1000m it will move it 10cm?

[@bnag0525]

Tried explaining this to a friend but unfortunately any time I try to explain things out loud my brain shuts down and I can’t articulate my thoughts lmao. But this was a very good way of simplifying it. I probably could have saved a year of my life a decade ago trying to understand it had I heard it from a great teacher like yourself!

[@XRING]

I appreciate you commenting and for watching the channel!

[@ASkippingRock]

Just getting into long range shooting, building my first ar10. This was helpful, so glad I found your channel.

[@dhooter]

Get another rifle 👍

[@murffyslaw001]

A very concise video, Sir. Very simply put, easy to understand!

[@richardcampbell5762]

You explained it much better than I could ever do it. Going to make a couple of my buddies watching video. Great video thank you.

[@scottf.3808]

Really good series as love to learn more as you have a very simple breakdown of info that hits home for me so thanks...Good stuff...

[@petcatznz]

Great explanation thank you. I would like to add that using metric range measurements and mils works best for me. Mixing mils and yards complicates things slightly.

[@timrosales1814]

Well while I was doing the math, my target ran away.

[@denniswyse6686]

That's funny

[@D70340]

LOL

[@Larry-bp4qh]

😂😂😂

[@TheCHRISGIBBS0470]

Thank you , you have taken all the confusion out of every vid I have watched on the subject .... Excellent !

[@XRING]

Thanks Chris and thanks for watching the channel.

[@garyhenderson6504]

Excellent video. I just happened to be looking at new scopes for a high-end PCP rifle. The choice was down to one scope using MOA, and one using MIL. I just ordered the one using the MIL dot reticle (and I checked-it has MIL click adjustments). Thanks for the clarification and the help.

[@TheRonald6524]

I’m just in the mitts of building a new rifle ! First time I’ve done this. And need a scope. Video was extremely helpful!!! I’m new to the sport of target shooting. But this rifle will be for my grandson!!! Great video!!!! 👍

[@thomaspoke8511]

MOA scope with MOA reticle (or MIL scope with MIL reticule) is the largest take-away from this excellent video. Ray is a great teacher. Pick a system and understand the system you choose.

[@XRING]

Thanks Thomas and thanks for watching.

[@charlesmckinley29]

Someone who has mastered a topic can take a complex topic and explain it in simple terms. Thank you.

[@XRING]

Thank you Charles and thanks for commenting!

[@charlesmckinley29]

X-RING have to drive the numbers. 😉. I posted a link to the video on the Project Appleseed forum in a thread with an article on the same topic. Please check out appleseedinfo dot org and see if it is something you would like to help spread the word about. We need all the help we can get filling the lines. In Liberty, CM

[@XRING]

Thanks Charles I appreciate it. I will check it out.

[@h.kleefvan6677]

Even from way down here, in the Netherlands, everything you said in this video about Mills and MOA was “loud and clear”. You did a real good job! Thanks for that, Huub van Kleef (66).

[@XRING]

Thanks H. Kleef! More great long range content on the channel.

[@davidybarra5848]

Excellent explanation. From someone that knows that difference, this makes it very easy for anyone to understand.

[@booneyrat75]

Thank you so very much for finally making this not such a daunting task to understand. Now I'm excited to get out and use my MRAD scope and my range finder.

[@XRING]

That is great Zora .Thank you for watching the channel!

[@kevinroberts9580]

Very good analogies and a good job at making it very simple to understand. I never thought one was really better than the other, but people say that the mill reticle is just simpler to work with. I've never done much long distance shooting. Really no place to do that around here. Very good job X Ring

[@XRING]

Kevin Roberts Thank you Kevin!

[@mohsenraghian210]

Interesting. Thanks for the explanation. I also started with MOA, when I was first introduced to firearms, rifles and the description of "MOA" at the time made sense to me. Not until I developed an interest in ELR and only concentrating on long distance capable rifles (I mean 1000+ yards to 2500 yards). And the more youtube videos of long distance shooters I watched I started gravitating toward MRAD scopes. Now, I mostly look for FFP, MRAD scopes with MRAD reticles. I must say though, the same power in a MRAD scope is more expensive than its counterpart in MOA. Sometimes it is not that significant of a difference, but as you get up to higher range scopes, then the difference is noticeable, at least from my own experience.

[@tomdavis780]

A simple & direct explanation presented in terms that alleviate the mystery of these terms...thank you for assisting a novice get a handle on these two important terms used in our sport. Bravo, Sir!

[@XRING]

Thank you Tom and thanks for watching. Have a great week.

[@topoff33]

Excellent explanation, Thank you for the clarity!!!

[@stevenv55125]

Great video and explanation. Thanks.

[@bubblehead7680]

Lol. I am currently driving a truck that came from Canada down here in Texas. The trucks (2011) speedometer is in kilometers. I totally relate.

[@clintbench5666]

Great explanation- thanks for making it so simple

[@clydeowens8014]

Thanks for clearing that up. Great explanation

[@Mountainchip]

Totally understandable explanation. Well done. METRIC RULES!

[@XRING]

Superer Dave Thanks Superer Dave and thanks for watching.

[@Smokeyr67]

I prefer driving at 100kph than at 60mph, but I prefer being 6ft tall instead of 180cms 😀

[@SgtBooker44]

That was about the easiest explanation I have seen. Thanks for making it understandable. I subbed

[@XRING]

SgtBooker44 Thanks SgtBooker and thank’s for subscribing!

[@billking698]

BRO !...THAT WAS AN AWESOME EXPLANATION !!..NOW I GOT TO CHECK OUT ALL MY OPTICS AND SEE IF I HAVE A MIL RETICLE OR MOA...I DON'T GET TO SHOOT MUCH SINCE ALL THE YANKEE'S MOVED DOWN TO FLA AND BUILT HOMES EVERYWHERE 😖.... 30-40 YEARS AGO I USED TO BE ABLE TO HOP IN MY TRUCK AND DRIVE 10 MINUTES AND GO SHOOTING. NOT ANYMORE...BUMMER...ANYWAYS THX FOR THIS VIDEO !

[@jh5869]

Thanks X Ring. I’ve been hunting and shooting since I was 10 years old, and often wondered what the difference is. Now that we’re trying to shoot out to 1000 yards, it’s imperative to understand. 🤠😎

[@XRING]

JH586 Yes it is JH586! Thanks for watching.

[@codyoslin6594]

Thank you Sir. I've tried to figure out what the difference between the two is. I've watched videos and I still didn't fully understand it until now. Your video was easy to comprehend and understand. Great video.

[@XRING]

Thank you Cody. I am glad you enjoyed the video. Have a great weekend sir!

[@yves9893]

This video is super informative and very, very well done, thanks! I subscribed to the channel after watching the first 30 seconds and I'll make sure to come back to watch other content.

[@XRING]

Thank you Yves and thank you for subscribing to the channel.!

[@maccliff2115]

Great Video. Easy to understand. Thank you for posting this information! I got a lot out of this because I’m going to be purchasing a scope soon. Thank you.

[@XRING]

My pleasure MAC CLIFF. Thanks for watching.

[@christophercraig9469]

Excellent information my friend!! Well done!! I just learned!! That learning is good 😎

[@donrumato3413]

Simple and wonderful explanation. Thank you !

[@peytonnorris7244]

Whenever you hear it explains like that it is far easier to understand thank you so very much or a simple explanation

[@blickygobrrrrr]

Very clear and to the point. Thanks for the great video!

[@XRING]

Thanks Kyle! My pleasure

[@RuggedSportsmen]

Thanks for breaking it down. I also grew up with MOA scopes. Everyone told me I needed to go to mil to compete because theres a reason everyone uses mils. When I went to my first PRS match the course of fire was all written down in yardage. Made it simpler to not have to convert haha.

[@johnvaness8445]

Excellent explanation, thanks.

[@tommydowning]

Love the channel, first time rifle owner, and looking forward to all the learning-X-Ring is a great channel!

[@XRING]

tommydowning Thank you tommydowning. I really appreciate it.

[@PTurbo86]

Just starting to learn some very basic longer range stuff. I went and got a beginner's 3x9x40 with mil-dot and mil turrets (love turrets instead of finger adjust cap covers), and am reading up on mil. I just bore sighted the scope; looked through my bore and lined up the cross hair on the target which was about 100m away. At 100 yards a mil is about 3.6 inches, at 100 meters, it's about 3.9 inches. To make sure my initial 25 meter zero is good, I've found that doing the math this way works. 25 meters, a mil is about an inch. So 1/10th mil clicks, will be easy to compute. Need to move up half an inch? 5 clicks at 25 meters, and so on and so on. Move out to 100 meters, which is where I want this AR zeroed (yes, I know, it's an AR not a bolt gun xD), and then 5 clicks will be about 2 inches. Obviously, beyond 100 meters, that rough estimate for ease of math will fall apart, but I believe I'm onto something. Let me know if that makes sense, or if I'm completely not following, here. Thanks! BTW, Your video is quite nice. Unassuming, and very to the point without being a dick about it. Subbed :)

[@waltkupson7998]

Excellent explanation sir!!!!

[@fritzd2116]

I like your explanation. Elegant, as us engineers like to say! Subscribed to your channel.

[@thraplomongo9962]

Sir you are good teacher....

[@chancecarlton8403]

So easy to understand, very well done. Thank you.

[@XRING]

My pleasure Chance! Thanks for watching .

[@williamczupryn2642]

Thank you sir. My first mil scope. Explained well. Cheers!

[@maurygollob3140]

Absolutely outstanding! Thanks so much.

[@D70340]

I`m in my 70`s, and not much farther in life to go. So by the time MOA scopes are gone, i`ll be long gone before that happens. I dont see me converting to MIL anytime to soon. Hell at my age, i`m just happy to still see thru a scope let alone buying a new fancy one like you kids use today, lol. Damn good tutorial though!!! Respect, Sir!!!

[@daviddiaz1157]

I actually understood this after months of searching what each one meant this finally makes sense

[@XRING]

Thanks David Diaz. I tried to keep things simple. Lots of good information on the channel about long range shooting if you ever become interested. Thanks for watching!

[@daviddiaz1157]

@@XRING well ur doing a hell of a good job and yeah I shoot long range with my .22 lr I shoot out to 400 yards but I just hold off high but after seeing this video I now realize my scope is a mil type of scope and know the math thanks dude!!

[@XRING]

My pleasure David.

[@DSmith-zf9es]

Got it. Your explanation was perfectly clear. Thanks very much.

[@terryferebee8522]

Thank you finally someone explained it to where I can understand it

[@vdubbub1986]

Great videos!! I came here from Hanks Strange's channel!! Definitely subscribed!!

[@carlwheeler3403]

Great video. I was a Mil-Dot man for decades until I sat down and did the math for MOA and the simplicity of MOA sold me on it. I still have Mil-Dot scopes but I buy only MOA scopes now. Yes, turning the turrets can be cumbersome but I use Holdover to compensate. So, the benefit for me is that MOA provides quick and easy mental math, no calculator needed.

[@Johnsormani]

The biggest issue with all the shooters that are used to yards and inches have with mrad is that they want to calculate it back to yards and inches. That just doesn’t work well , I agree with you. But if you see the logic of having a 10th of a value in stead of a fourth etc and get used to using meters it’s getting so much more locical to use mrad, because it is precise. With MOA the biggest mistake is made with rounding off to the 1 “ at 100 yards , which is already a 5% error. Transport that error to 500 yards or more and you will only miss

[@docholliday1811]

Very nice informative video. Great work!

[@XRING]

Thank you.

[@WTFSoCal]

well explained ! i have always worked with MOA just seems like the math was eaasier in my head, but the way you broke it down, I might start leaning the other way with Mil rads

[@XRING]

It was very hard for me to make the switch as well. Once I did, I wondered why it took me so long.

[@WTFSoCal]

I get it... Im good with " all that math stuff" in my head so it instantly made sense....

[@Suaneslopez]

Just what i needed !! Thanks for this 👍👍

[@jorge-j-delgado-acevedo]

Excellent explanation. Thank you.

[@jeremyh172]

Great video Ray! I need to come out and get some tips. I accidentally found this video. Just got my first MRAD and need to understand it.

[@paulhughes3961]

Make perfect since, especially the mill dot Measurements. I think I might switch to a mill dot scope.

[@SamuraiJake22]

Great info. Very easy to understand. Thank you

[@captschark]

Great to see you on Hank's show!

[@theboaguy1]

Great video! Really cleared some things up for me.

[@XRING]

Brad Homer Thank you Brad. Glad it was helpful. Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@paulsoutbackgardenaustrali7674]

sry bro...i miss all what u said...was looking at all that great loading gear u have..love it..

[@2punish1]

With your .308 rifle, shooting at 600 yards on your MOA scope (1/4" per click) is 16.5 MOA which is 66 clicks on your elevation turret. Now 600 yards on your mil dot scope (1/10) shooting a .308 is 4.8 mils which is 48 clicks on your elevation turret. So, at longer distances there are less clicks on your elevation turret when using a mil dot scope.

[@XRING]

2punish1 Exactly!! Less dialing.

[@arthurvandervelde]

This is simply the result of the fact that 1/10 mil is a bigger unit than 1/4 MOA. While one might argue that fewer clicks are preferable, another will argue that more clicks provide more precise adjustment.

[@ClintTerry]

Thank you for the wisdom, Sir!

[@ALAHOME]

crystal clear explanation! SUBSCRIBED

[@rwseemore1]

Outstanding description of the issue

[@XRING]

Thank you and thanks for watching.

[@RotorMedic7]

Fantastic explanation ! Thank you.

[@markpaolino4264]

When we plot fire missions in the field artillery we use mils, reason being the range of an artillery round travels thousands of yards, so you want a finer accuracy.

[@Thamac15]

How is mil more accurate than moa for artillery over long distance? I’m ignorant, just wanting to know.

[@archangel20031]

13 seconds in and I have to say that's one fine reloading room with proper storage! I just figure the Max Point blank range of a 6" circle (usually 300 to 400 yards) and set it for that so no matter what, my bullet will impact inside that 6" circle, and use Kentucky windage for closer or further shots, but rarely have to shoot that far.

[@IY6C]

Now the day is complete. Nice work

[@XRING]

I appreciate the nudge :-)

[@rkba4923]

Just remember there are 3.44 MOA per MRad, therefore, each .10 MRad = 0.34 MOA (or, 1/3rd MOA). So, every .30 MRad = 1 MOA. 1.2 MRad = 4 MOA, .90 MRad = 3 MOA, etc. It doesn't really make any difference to me if I have an MOA or MRad scope as long as I know the range to the target and my drop in MOA or MRAd it's easily convertible. I've naturally veered toward MOA in the field cause it's simpler math, e.g. I measure a Prairie Dog that averages 12" tall as 3 MOA or .90 MRad with my reticle, It's easier just to divide 12" by 3 MOA in my head and realize the range is around 400 yards than to do the formula for converting MRad to yards. I know that out past about 600 or so yards you need more precision but this works for me. Each to his own though.

[@XRING]

RKBA Good point for sure. I guess I just like the continuity within my scope. I’m equally as satisfied with both but if someone is just getting into precision shooting it’s good information to be aware of before buying optics.

[@Smokeyr67]

Sooooo, if I shoot at a target 1km away, and get a 100cm group, is that 1MOA or 1 mil, or 1 goats head and a rabbit?😀

[@tafaragadze6432]

How is it that I passed math enough to understand taxes but not rifle scopes?

[@tafaragadze6432]

@@Smokeyr67 bro I'm just as lost as when I started if not more so.

[@rkba4923]

@@tafaragadze6432 I can assure you there's a reason, lol.

[@callisto32]

Great explanation using metric and standard unit measurements.

[@XRING]

Thanks. I figured it was the easiest correlation of the measurements.

[@yeti227]

Why is this only video like this? I thought I messed up by buying an MRAD optic from Vortex but I see this is okay. Now I'd like a video on Zeroing an MRAD optic!! Thanks a bunch for the easy explination

[@TheJetlife94]

I just bought my first MRAD scope from vortex as well and after watching a few videos I KIND of understand it. I plan on zeroing at 100 yards. So this is strictly for 100 yards. First understand: ONE click = 0.1 mil which equals 0.36 inches at 100 yards. To complete 1 MIL it takes 10 clicks in whatever direction you need to go. TEN clicks = 1 mil which equals 3.6 inches at 100 yards. So to adjust your reticle i found the easiest way is to multiply each click by 0.36. So at 100 yards let's say you need to adjust your POI (point of impact) about 2 inches up and 3 inches right, you would do: 6 clicks UP × .36 inches = your poi will move 2.16 inches UP 9 clicks RIGHT × .36 inches = your poi will move 3.24 inches RIGHT. Anyway, I'm still learning about the reticle. So someone correct me if im wrong. Hope this helps. Good luck

[@Johnny_Benson]

MY GOD!!! Finally someone to break it down for my in simple terms! You rock and are officially on my Xmas card mailer list.

[@XRING]

Thank you John and thanks for watching!

[@TGun7]

Nicely done! I appreciate it. Liked, subscribed, hit the notification bell.

[@bryannelson315]

Nice video. We competed in long range challenges until we found PRS. The one thing you didn’t touch on was “calling”. The spotter may not know what scope the shooter has. If the match allows calls, we call in “plate” or “target”. If the shooter misses a half plate left. The call is hold half plate right…. Simple, quick, usually effective. If the shooter is way off due to low skill or stupidity, we mortar them in. “Come up 4 plate and 2 plates left”. We all have won several times (LRC only) and found the other competitor have adapted to it.

[@XRING]

Bryan Nelson Great information Bryan! I usually do the same thing when I am spotting for friends who aren’t “into” the long range game.....yet anyway! 😂 Thanks again and thanks for watching.

[@carniv0rous]

This was great and very enlightening...thankyou

[@joelthepole12345]

Awesome explanation. Bought a vortex MRAD scope on a deal.